/vr/ - Retro Games

wolfenstein
for some reason i loves running into every wall in the entire game

>>1697109
When I was a kid Doom didn't exist.

As a kid, I missed all the shooters between Wolf3d and Quake, so for me it's Wolf3d.
Favorite moment? Dunno, I remember liking the pc speaker sounds when picking up long rows of gold. And also the anticipation of what the next level's textures will look like - are they going to be different or not. New textures always felt special.

>>1697109
>Which one did you like most as a kid? What was your favorite moment first time playing? I personally liked both a lot.

I played both of those simultaneously while I was around 7 years old (1994). I initially played them with cheats because that's the way I rolled (now I'm powering through UV in Plutonia if that makes you feel better).

In Doom, due to IDDQD, I'd just pick up the Shotgun and shoot from it and listen to its sound over and over and over, that's my memory from the early days.

Wolf3D I remember mostly because of Mecha Hitler and because my parents played it all the time, and my mom still does after I installed it on her computer with a source port. It's fun to watch her play.

Both fine games. I liked Doom more, though, it's a better game overall (with nothing against Wolf3D, Wolf3D actually has a pretty smart design, Doom just got all the cool new stuff and more varied aesthetics). Still, had a lot of fun with either. Also, Duke3D, which I remember playing at 6-7 and being confused about the ending of Episode 3.

>>1697109
Doom

I've never could play Wolfenstein for long times

I get terrible dizziness and headaches.
Even to this day I still get them if I play it.

>>1697109
I liked Doom more because it was harder to me and felt like it had more variety in level design and enemies.

Neither, Duke 3D is superior.

fuck man, where can I get a high quality image of that Wolf poster?

Wolf 3D I played as a kid on an ancient computer my cousins had. Shareware version of course.
I don't actually remember if we playes Doom, we might have, I got into it much later. Still enjoy Wolf a lot and also RTCW is one of my favorite games too. BJ is a bad dude

>>1697239
http://www.mobygames.com/game/ipad/wolfenstein-3d/screenshots/gameShotId,560353/

I like Wolf 3D very much, but even at the time it was released I was bothered how empty the levels looked. Of course as a kid I didn't have any clue about technological limitations at the time, but it still kinda bothered me. I imagined the whole game take a place in some cellar and the single colored floor made me think the floor is covered with fitted carpet.
I think the most memorable moment is the distorted nazi screams of death. I also remember the grinning face the guy makes when you pick up minigun.

To me it's hard to think about Doom as "just a game" because I've been playing it so much for so long that it feels really personal thing to me, even though millions of people have been playing it for decades now.
I don't know if that makes any sense, but it's the same feeling I feel towards movies like Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones.
Doom was probably the first game I even played in multiplayer. I also had my first co-op experience in Doom.

Even though Doom had all them spooky demons and such, I still found Wolf 3D more scarier. The human skeleton remains in those small cages is what gave me shivers down my spine when I was a kid, and every time I see anything nazi related stuff in real life I think about those cages and the people who were put in them.

>>1697743
Oh and here's a funny story related to Wolf 3D and Indiana Jones:

>be 8 year old little kid
>play loads of wolfensteind 3D and watch indiana jones all day erry day
>see nazi symbols and think they look really cool
>don't know anything about the meaning behind them or anything about nazis except that you kill them for some reason
>draw some stickmen fighting against other stickmen on my notebook, typical little kid drawings
>draw swastikas and totenkopf SS-skulls all around the paper
>teacher sees my drawings and I get in trouble
>get put in therapy

I was already a very quiet and shy kid so drawing swastikas and dying stickmen were probably seen as warning signs.

>>1697237
>Duke

Haha, so you just sat around for four years doing nothing while everyone else was playing Wolf and Doom while you waited for Duke3D to be released? Great job, smartass.

How can one company be so based?

but yeah, wolf3d bitch.

>>1697109

Both were very special to me as a kid.
And I played both (shareware versions of course) endlessly.
I recently went back and beat all episodes of Wolf3d.exe using a map and got %100 on every level.
Something I dreamed i would accomplish as kid pushing on every wall but to no avail.
As the other anon sayed, that PC speaker ringing out while collecting the gold was probably the best part of the game, and waiting till I was 12 to even try to play "IM A DEATH INCARNATE"

I first caught a glimpse when I was very young (5 or 6) And I was quickly shooed away.
But that 10 second glimpse I saw stuck with me for those 3 or 4 years before I got to play.


Doom has a special place (along with Duke) because my friend and I would rush home after school and play together.
I was the shooter and code commandar, and he was the navigator.

I could probably play both shareware versions with my eyes closed.

Doom is an objectively better game in every single way. I played them both from start to finish (including all Wolf 3D expansions) and Wolf 3D gave me migraines a lot of the time and I would never consider replaying it ever again. Doom however is still fun to play even to this day, the level design is great, the weapon variety is really well done, the enemy variety brings a lot of spice into the gameplay and it's just all-around a much fucking better game.

Wolf 3D is just a tech demo to show that first person shooter games could be made, Doom is the real father of FPS.

>>1697361

>a mix of low quality graphic and high quality logos...

T-thanks, anon... I'll have to keep searching.

>>1699014
What the fuck are you talking about, that shits crystal clear on my monitor.

>>1697109
Although Wolfenstein is a lot of fun, the atmosphere in Doom is what hooked me. It was so dark and scary at the time, at least compared to everything else I had experienced in video games. I would hug every corner in anticipation of getting jumped by demons in the darkness.

I will never forget the sounds a zombie soldier or imp makes.

I enjoyed the semi-realistic Nazi conspiracies in Wolf better, as well as the fact that you were fighting human enemies instead of monsters. They didn't really do that much in the 1990's.

Doom is a good game, but the whole monsters teleporting from Hell-storyline was a bit too outrageous for my tastes. Nazis are more charismatic as enemies, and the secret Nazi plots for world domination just got me involved better.

It's pretty sad that Id eventually didn't implement the intented stealth aspect into Wolf3D. Just imagine the atmosphere if you could've walked among the enemies unnoticed, fearing how soon before your disguise fails.

>>1697210
>MFW I can ride rollercoasters to my heart's content
>MFW I can comfortably read or play vidya while in a moving vehicle
>MFW the worst a low FoV can do is make me irate

>>1697109

I'll give you a clue.

>>1700512
Someone should really really make it say "low on guts"

i played wolf3d as a kid but never really got into it. i got into doom later in life, but I think it's basically perfect.

Wolf 3D.

My father sat me and my brother down when we were about 6 years old, knowing our mom was against us playing it. He said he didn't want us to grow up as pansies, but didn't want us to grow up ignorant. He actually went into a huge half hour talk about Nazi Germany and about the war in general, that people lost their lives and although the setting was very ficticious, the people were very bad people and basically he lessened the blow of the violence itself while giving the game a sense of urgency, giving it a purpose and reasoning as to why it exists.

Can't understate how influential this game was to both my critical thinking skills and my tolerance for violence.

I liked that Wolf3D kept score and had a lives system, I missed those features in Doom. Doom is otherwise quite superior.