/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1671978

Why connect some piece of shit controller to your phone when you can easily connect a PS3 controller?

>>1678442
I fucked around with Bluetooth gamepads for a long time and had some good experiences with them but they tend to have spotty compatibility because there's so many and so many revisions.

In the end I just bought a used Xperia Play. The whole thing is no bigger than a typical bluetooth controller by itself and it runs all the emulators just as well as any other Android device runs them since it's more a problem of optimization than it is of sheer horsepower and it's nice to be able to run my game's battery completely into the ground and not worry about missing phone calls. Also, you get to be one of those guys that carries two cell phones (Cheater? Dealer?) instead of some guy that carries around a game controller (Nerd? Loser?)

If the X-Play is too underpowered for you then get an Nvidia Shield, which is a beast but won't fit in your pocket. There are some inbetween offerings from JXD and a couple others but I really gotta suggest either going small (X-Play) or going big (Shield)

Don't get MOGA shit. They don't work with emulators and let's face it, that's what you're buying it for.

>>1678442
This defeats the whole purpose.

>>1678442
> mobile gaming
> /vr/

die in a fire

>>1678495
So Gameboy doesn't qualify as Retro to you?

>>1678503
does your post have anything to do with gameboy? or retro games in general?

go back to /v/ with this smartphone garbage

>>1678507
Your post implied that /vr/ and mobile gaming can't be combined at all
Which obviously isn't true

>>1678512
the term "mobile gaming" is synonymous with smartphones, "apps", and the rest of that cancerous garbage coming from silicon valley, regardless of what wikipedia tells you is the definition.

>>1678512
and obviously stuff like gameboy, game gear, lynx, psp are handhelds.

MOGA's decent, and DOES work with emulators. I have the old Pro myself, but the Bluetooth is so shit that the controls become garbage if not properly optimized by the coders.

Just get an OTG cable since you probably have console controllers just hanging around. Dualshock, USB gamepads, w/e just works usually with an OTG cable. Much cheaper than getting a MOGA.

>>1678482
JXD stuff actually DOES look pretty cool.

Are there any other no-name, emulator-friendly Android devices out there?

>>1678539
>960x540
Yeah, no.

>>1678507

dude you need to realize that you are a complete idiot.

Obviously he was talking about Emulation. There is nothing else these controllers are used for than emulation. Nobody who plays modern up to date games gives a shit about the games ports that you can get in appstores but people who only have smartphones and no other computing device.

Only way for you to not know that is your frequent habbit to visit /v/.

>>1678546
How about this one?
>1280x800

>>1678550
blow me, faggot.

op's post amounted to "does this controller for a smartphone work good". it has nothing to do with emulators or retro gaming.

>>1678539
GPD, TUVVA, iPega, iReadyGo (and Yinlips but they haven't been very active lately), and then of course you have nVidia's Shield which is considered the best. I've only had experience with JXD products, but GPD is generally considered to be just as good if not better.

>>1678546
>>1678556
The resolution doesn't really matter that much if you're just using to play retro games. N64, Dreamcast, PS1 and PSP do look better at a higher res, but considering these were originally played at maybe 480p at best it doesn't really matter that much. 8-bit and 16-bit games actually look better at a lower resolution.

>>1678565

stop acting like a fool. you can't be that dumb. don't be so hard on yourself.

>>1678580
>I've only had experience with JXD products
Have you had experience with this one >>1678556, the S7800?
Seriously considering buying this, the specs and reviews sound very promising

>>1678486
They do work with emulators, you just need the right app.

Ive never had any problems with my moga, its just a pain to set up I guess.

>>1678442
I use a Moga Pro Power. It's a very solid gamepad that feels great with emulators, and since my phone is rooted I have been able to make custom screen maps for a couple of mobile games that don't have native gamepad support-- pretty much any twin-stick shooter is going to play well that way, an other games too.

My only complaint with the Pro Power is that it is not very portable. If you often carry around a bookbag or backpack like me, that is not a problem, but it is not a pocket-sized solution. Ideally, we would just have something that plugs directly into the phone and turns it into an Xperia Play with better specs, but so far the only stuff like that I've seen is for the iPhone, and I use a Galaxy S4.

>>1678685
That's dumb anyway. Any other bluetooth/USB game pad would work with emulators, why pay more for complications?

>>1678748
Because the point of it is to be mobile, most controllers aren't specialized for that purpose, and the MOGA controllers have a clip-on device for your smartphone

>>1678773
The MOGA is not exactly the epitome of portable unless you carry a large bag everywhere.
It's big, bulky, and inconvenient on the software end.

Simply not worth it.

>>1678795
The Pro Power is slightly less portable, but the Hero Power easily fits into your pocket from what I've read

>>1678795
Moga Pro Power has HID mode which is quite convinient. It's the original Moga Pocket that did not support HID mode without a hack, and it was a pain in the ass to use in general. I should really sell mine...

>>1678442
Too bad that D-pad looks crap. The xbox styled controller is good though.

>>1678442
It's probably already been mentioned in this thread (can't be arsed to read it),
but there's a Chinese company that makes hand-held emulators that are supposed to be pretty cool.

I don't remember their name, but it might be worth looking into.

>>1678880
The D-pad isn't the best I've ever used but it is still good.

>>1678539
>Are there any other no-name, emulator-friendly Android devices out there?
I'm getting a GPD in about a week. If the threads still up I'll post what I think.

http://www.amazon.com/TUVVA-Power-Play-Gaming-Tablet/dp/B00GH5E9VI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
is this any good?

>>1678479
Because that requires rooting your phone, and not everyone is willing to do that.

>>1679290
Rooting your phone gives you a shitton of useful features and apps, especially on Samsung devices, but it can be a pain in the ass to make it work right sometimes. It would be preferable if you could just do more stuff on your phone without rooting.

>>1679320
While rooting is the better option for some, there are some carriers that will actively go out of their way to make you regret rooting your phone, or make it as difficult as possible.
See: AT&T

>>1678442
The MOGA Pro controllers are pretty good overall, especially for emulation. Sadly, the analog sticks are only glorified dpads in hid mode for unoffical moga compatible games. Snes and nes emulators like snes9x ex + work amazing though.

>>1679374
Having rooted two AT&T phones, I can say I don't think the devil himself could have made the process more rage inducing.

>>1678679
I don't, only an S5110 (the ICS one) and an S7300, but they are generally good products. Just don't try to run anything weird (like firmware for other hardware) and be wary of the temperature since China apparently doesn't know what a heatsink is. There is a way to fix it though, if you don't mind opening it up and applying some thermal patches.

I just use a WiiMote with a Classic Controller Pro.

I also bought a cheap tv-out cable so I can take my phone over to my friend's houses and play against each other. Last Saturday we got into a few rounds of Mario Kart 64 and Wrestlefest.

For retro, the shield screen is kinda small.

>>1678479
Because PS3 controllers are shitty. They're too small, their triggers are forged from Satan's diarrhea, the buttons are mushy, and all sorts of other problems.

>>1678539
I really want to see you using it as a phone. You will look even dumber than using an N-Gage.

>retro games on the go
>Have to carry a controller along with the mobile phone
Why not carrying a PSP or an Android console instead?

>>1679640
You mean the screen? Theoretically should play better on smaller screens because of its lower resolution. I can play Playstation okay on my 1.8" watch screen I suspect 3rd & 4th gen games would be playable on even smaller screens.

If you think the shield screen is too small then play on your DLNA HDTV.

Or you could just say "fuck it" and grab the gold - pic related.

>>1679815
Er, as long as you hold it close enough to your ear it won't look any different from a normal smartphone

>>1679821
>mfw

what a time to be alive

>>1680085
>Console-looking device
>Not differenet than a normal smartphone
Sure.

>>1678565

>autism

>>1680086
inorite? I already have a fairly solid 10" win8 tablet (W500) and I wish I could afford just the controller but it's $250 alone and there's no guarantee it'd fit right with my tablet even though it looks like the same prongs/usb center style dock.

Also worth looking at if you're a real bitch about the Shield's 5" screen is the Wikipad with a 7" screen at release (down from 10" or I'd have my eyes on THAT pad). Solid controls on the Wikipad I guess but despite the bigger screen the specs are worse than Shield and it's more expensive.

>>1678442
Zero master race reporting in
Get one, OP.
If you can

Is the original Moga worth $10?

>>1681619
About $12 on ebay.

>>1681624
I meant would it be worth it to buy the Moga brand-new for $10.

>>1681627
I guess that depends on what you want out of it. Mine lost its shoulder buttons pretty fast and it doesn't have a d-pad. It's the rock bottom Bluetooth controller.

>>1679821
>>1680086
>>1680785
>Razer
>anything but trash

>>1681726
Okay well let me know when whatever weird company makes your mouse that you're sure is at LEAST 2% better than any Razer product starts manufacturing a Windows 8 tablet controller.

>>1681738
But I got my microsoft optical mice from good will for $3 a piece. And they play nice with 1000hz USB polling.

>>1681971
The next time I see a Microsoft brand gamepad dock for a 10" Windows tablet for $3 at Goodwill I'll definitely buy it but I'm not holding my breath since no such thing exists.

>>1683014
Guess not everyone gets lucky at the thrift stores.

>>1683065
You'd have to be awfully lucky to find a nonexistent product.

>>1681738
I use a Logitech G400.
Far outperforms any Razer mouse I've ever used.
Try harder.

Also that tablet controller is unnecessarily bulky.
Sorry to break it to you, but even an Xbox Duke controller would take up less space.

>>1684169
>Because an Xbox controller is great for holding a tablet securely

Did Razer fuck your mother or something? Because you seem to have an irrational hate for them. Their shit's overpriced but for whatever reason you're choosing to ignore that, the best argument against them.

>>1684201
killed my mother and raped my father

:''(

>>1684206
I'm so sorry, I had no way of knowing. Was it the Mamba?

>>1684214
I'm guessing it was the original Boomslang

>>1683081
Like a 10" LCD screen with an HDMI hookup that mounts on top of the shields' screen?

>>1679290
I can connect my ps3 controller to my galaxy note 3 easily without being rooted. I also have a snes to usb adapter I use with it that works perfectly as well.

>>1685592
You can connect the shield wirelessly to any HD screen with DLNA

bump

>>1678495
>what is emulation

I've seen a guy around /v/ with a thing known as a Phonejoy. Seems to be a retractable controller so you can fit your phone in horizontally or vertically for DS games, and he claims it is better than the Moga shit. Based on Amazon prices, it looks expensive as fuck though.

>>1678539
That black finish and face button layout look fucking nasty.

>>1687375
I agree the white one looks much more "phonelike"

>>1678482
>you get to be one of those guys that carries two cell phones (Cheater? Dealer?) instead of some guy that carries around a game controller (Nerd? Loser?)

What's wrong with you people? Is this an american thing? Because I don't think I've ever experienced it.

>>1688693
Experienced what?

came here to post this: >>1681246

has anyone used one of these?
the reviews on dx seem positive, but would like any input anyone has. there is also a different branded one but exactly the same hardware.

http://www.dx.com/p/wamo-wireless-bluetooth-gamepad-for-android-ios-cell-phone-pc-black-222605#.U5u_Eij6uUk

>>1678482
Are you me?

This is how I roll.

Gameklip sent me the universal version that required I permanently adhere my phone case to it, so I picked up a cheap $10-15 case, put some velcro on it and the plastic adhesive stripe on the case and use that when I'm home and have my DS3 controller handy. When I'm done, I rip it off and don't have to sacrifice a perfectly good phone case, regardless of how cheap it was.

>MUH FREEDOM
Also Theme Hospital

>>1689868
I used to be all over the Pandora, but they took too long to realease it and by now it's outdated as fuck

they're working on a new device though

how well does it work for SNES games?

>>1689868
Oh man I was so close to preordering for the second batch of these things.
Thank fuck I didn't.

>>1679374
LG is also a fucking asshole. They made it so fucking complicated to do anything with your phone. You cannot flash Clockwork Recovery among other services and instead have to rely on obscure fucking executables on the internet, you cannot use custom OSes other than stock/edited stock, not sure exactly why but for some phones it is supposedly impossible to do, you cannot root on latest version yet the update window will ALWAYS FUCKING GO OFF periodically and turning off the actual service wastes battery life of obscene levels, there is so much shit surrounding it that all I can say is fuck LG. Not sure of the hell AT&T uses have to go through, but this shit was horrible. I am glad I did it though, as a phone without a recovery option or lucky patcher is not a fucking phone worth having.

For OP, I have an ipega controller. It is alright for price, but in reality is shitty as fuck. I wish I knew about using PS3 controllers back then. I would have tried out some of the other controllers, but for some fucking reason they always choose the Xbox joysticks. This would be okay, I can live with it, but just prefer the dpad placement to symmetrical with the face buttons, at least for /vr/ games, which would be the only reason to use one anyways because it is all my phone and even high end phones are really capable of.

The problem I always have with BT gamepads is that these assholes have some real input lag. I'm alright with RPGs but I ain't gonna play a platformer outside like that.

And now android 4.2 onwards doesn't work with wiimotes either so fuck that shit.

>>1678442

What's wrong, OP? Couldn't convince /v/ to give a shit about your stupid little trendy 'gaming' accessory?

So I thought the Nvidia Shield was just a streaming device from your PC, so you can play your Steam games with wifi basically.

How does emulation on that even work?

>>1679821
>>1680086
A few months ago, Woot had a deal for a refurb Edge Pro + the gamepad dock for $799. If only I didn't miss out on that deal. Now I can't find an Edge Pro at all, outside of used ones being resold on eBay or Amazon.

>>1690187
It's actually an Android handheld, like the ones Chinese companies like JXD produce. You would be using the emulation apps people have made specifically for Android phones and tablets.

Can someone please answer these questions for me.
Does the Gameklip attach to an HTC one?
What paring app do I use? I will buy the fucking thing at this point
what emulators is the pairing app compatible with?
Please anon's

>>1692537

My guess is you would not need an app for pairing. If the gampad connectis via bluetooth you would probably just enable bluetooth in the phone's options menu and search for the device there.

Everything else like button mapping would be done in the respective emulation app.

>>1689378
>that design

Oh my. It's amazing. My only concern is that joypad/circlepad/thingy whatever people call them.

Has there been any way to get Wiimotes to connect to Android devices running 4.2+? I've got a Galaxy S4 that came with 4.2.2 preinstalled and I can't get a Wiimote to connect to it. I know it has to do with Google changing how bluetooth devices connect in 4.2 and up, but so far there hasn't been any way around it other than downgrading, which I don't really want to do.

>>1693569

There is this app that supposedly helped with a lot of devices called 'USB/BT Joystick Center Gold'. I found out about this by googeling. There is a free version on which you can test whether your device is supported.

I think however that all Samsung Galaxy models don't work for some reason.

Fuck Samsung. Will never buy their phones again.

Since I got myself a Galaxy Note 3 (recently updated to android 4.4.2) I decided to get it some company for emulation: a bluetooth gamepad. Due to my curse of indecisiveness, I just decided to crapshoot on a Moga Hero Power.

So far, for emulation, I've only tried RetroArch. However, the gamepad support for that is horrible. Analog controls don't work at all, and there's severe input lag (even for the onscreen overlay). Apparently, there's a new version coming out that's supposed to fix all that. I definitely hope so.

I've tested it with several other games (like Metal Slug 3, bless you Humble Bundle) and it works just fine with them. There's almost zero lag.

Should I keep on waiting for retroarch to get better?

>>1678442
>there's no way past a smartphone these days
I have, never in my life, owned a smartphone.

>>1689881
Can't wait until they release it in 2021.
It may even be as powerful as my current phone.

>>1693961
How the hell did you get Retroarch on the Note 3? Every time I fire it up any game on any core, it craps out. I've tried everything.

>>1694082
You're missing out.

>>1693961
You might as well try other emulators.

>>1689410
I use the Wamo Gamepad, it works very well with all emulators I use. You can even connect it to your PC if you want, since it supports different modes which can be selected via button combinations. No lag, acccurate controlling, and even analog triggers.

>>1678565
This isn't even /v/'s fake idea of autism, this is real autism.