/vr/ - Retro Games

So my favourite game is Grim Fandango, to play it on a modern system the best way is to use Residual VM. Just copy the game data on HDD and point the Residual to the game folder. No installation. This shit also plays Escape from Monkey Island...

There are detailed installation instructions on GF deluxe blog... which also has some neat stuff like:
- point&click interface mods
- new high-poly models
- better textures

The GF Deluxe project forum is on Residual:
http://forums.residualvm.org/viewtopic.php?p=986

>>1676827
People always talk shit about Escape from Monkey Island, but I thought it was one of the funnier games in the series, even if the puzzles were weird.

The concept art was a rare thing for GF, but in 2013 someone finally released a bunch of High-res concept images on the following link:

http://grimfandangoart.tumblr.com/

There have been many fan-made rippers and resource file extractor, which led to modding 'n shit.

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>>1676846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv6KQStcEcM

There was a bug in the game, that was discovered 12 YEARS after the game release! The bug prevented Many to talk to Domino at The End of the World. Guys at Residual made the patch a part of the VM.

Here's Tim Schafers tweet about it:
https://twitter.com/TimOfLegend/status/136970659535400960

The guy who solved it:
http://lostsoulsalliance.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/recent-developments-ii/

And the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMQcy5qt-5g

You could avoid the bug in vanilla game version by avoiding to talk to Domino in year one. The speedrunners figured it out.

>>1676834
google: grimfandangodeluxe

There is also a P&C interface mod by this guy:
tpfaff.de/blog/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8DKMM65Jk0

FUCKING SPAM WARNING FUCKING CAPTCAH

There has been a great Widescreen video showing how this game could look in HD using added graphics on the sides:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cigf0ZT9pu0

http://kotaku.com/5876549/heres-what-grim-fandango-hd-might-look-like

Grim fandango design document has also been released, which shows some cut content design process:

http://kotaku.com/5077780/tim-schafer-publishes-original-grim-fandango-design-doc

http://mixnmojo.com/news/Holy-crap-Grim-Fandango-puzzledesign-document-released-retracted

A guy is making a FULL 3D grim fandango remake in UNITY:

myfandango blog - spot com
andrys -dot- cba -dot- pl / unity3d / dodhall / gf.html

>>1676914
I'm fucking TIRED OF CRYPTING these links to bypass 4chan spam filter...

I'll continue posting P&C stuff in 3-4 hours. Captcha & spam filter gave me headache.

>>1676837
IIRC, EFMI actually had really good puzzles. The main issue I had with it personally was the shitty and abrupt ending. It just gave me the impression that they just ran out of time or money and decided to wrap it up. It didn't feel properly finished.

>>1677092
Retcons and shitty controls killed it for me. I mean, I'm not super invested in the Monkey Island canon or anything, but it was just so unnecessary to overwrite SoMI's backstory and turn the monkey head into some stupid fucking robot.

>>1677096
>it was just so unnecessary to overwrite SoMI's backstory and turn the monkey head into some stupid fucking robot
Yeah, that whole thing with the robot was stupid. It was pretty much where the game went to shit. If it had had a proper ending, it could have been really good.

>>1677096
I don't recall any problems with the controls, though.

>>1677103
The pirate school was the highlight, by far.

>>1676902
Does anyone know where to download released design documents?

Wassup bitches, I'm back....

So anyhow, last year I stumbled upon a site 101 hardcore gaming, and the founder loves p&c. He released a book about adventure games, it has a preview on the site and it's REALLY GOOD. He covered a lot, and some things really in depth:

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/book.html

So the guy, Kurt Kalata, has kept Grim Fandango review offline, like it's gonna sell his book... but eventually gave up and released the review online. GF review is not available though his "book preview" menu, you need a direct link to it:

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/grimfandango/grimfandango.htm

So the brain behind the Grim Fandango is Tim Schafer, you can see his pic in the GF group shot.

Recently Double FIne released two VERY INTERESTING videos of him playing the first two games he made:

Tim plays Day of the Tentacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qumYnE2wYhA

Tim plays Full Throttle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE0Cf1JWsAg

Oh, and when you type "blam" in Grim Fandango, the model explodes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgxwCROwdPg

So, Lucasarts is dead, bought by Disney... but did you know that alongside physical copies of their games they shipped their funny newsletter called "Adventurer" which featured Steve Purcell's comics?

http:// lucasartsadventurer.blog (JOIN) spot.com/

This is a chanel with mind blowing retro footage of early Lucasarts and it's employees:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU9QQvzBz0fWVCpQHIEEhnQ/featured

So their first game, Maniac Mansion... is modeled upon SKywalker ranch.

It has some nice Pop FIction episode:
http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/6mn5yx/pop-fiction-maniac-mansion--microwaving-the-hamster

Stay tuned, i'll be back...

>>1677353
why not link to him playing GF too?
http://youtu.be/d3IidGmVLo4

>>1677393
>>1677393
Holy shit, I missed that video!! Thanks!!! Gonna keep posting stuff, off to get some sleep...

>>1677393
Thanks dude, still watching the vid, it came out last week, the dott and ft playthroughs are a bit older, didnt pay attention to doublefine channel, love it. Gonna post morr p&c stuff when i finish the vid and get some sleep.

Woke up, went running, now to continue my p&c confession....

>Grim Fandango
>Point & Click

So anyhow, Curse of Monkey Island is next. Obvious reference to GF.

I didn't know MI3 was a 256 colors game until i read it. But they've utilized excellent palletes so it looks as good as Broken Sword 1 which is 16-bit colors game.

The game has insane number of easter eggs, here's the video that covers most of them, but there is an even greater number of references and inside jokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JVtiUp0TmM

This is the last Scumm game from Lucasarts and to run it you need ScummVM

There is also an excellent site that has numerous extractors n shit:
http://quickandeasysoftware.net/software

So yeah, ScummVM support like >9000 Scumm games from every publisher that licenced Scumm.

But not only that, it supports non Scumm games like: Neverhood, Broken Sword etc. The guy who made ScummVM also made uTorrent

So back on MI3, the game had a lot of cut content, so here's the image of Guybrush from a cutscene that never made it to the final game.

There is a strategy guide that has a lot of concept art, but I haven't managed to find a scanned version anywhere. You can find it on Ebay though.

>>1678185
Did LucasArts actually license SCUMM to others?
I thought it was only used by LucasArts themselves, and every non-LA game supported by ScummVM (which is certainly nowhere near 9000) are just completely different engine implementations.

Speaking of cut content... there is a site where some guy analyzed all Lucasarts games, from early screenshots, demos and final games... and posted in depth analysis of changes that were made during the production:

http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digsc1.html

http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/index.html

>>1678194
Well I havent work neither in Scumm team or Lucasarts... but I'm certain that somewhere on ScummVM page i've read that a LOT of games utilize a variation of Scumm. Maybe you're right.

http://scummvm.org/faq/#question.supported-games

So.... there is this cool site that also deals with cut content:
http://tcrf.net/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Fate_of_Atlantis

While we're on a subject of easter eggs, here are the most obscure easter eggs in a game that was painfull to play so no one probably looked for them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXefGq-_js

And Full Throttle easter egg: if you ask the guy at Kickstand to play with knife, about 51 times, he'll eventually let you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7n030Hy5WE

Full throttle had planed seceral sequels (just like Sam and Max) but they were all canceled. Here's an excellent article on all the stuff that could've been:

http://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/index.php/site/features/376/

Well, FT Hell on Wheels looked like shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Dk9lp2UrE

Dont you just love this menu? The colors are just beautiful...

Here are a bunch of videos about Lucasarts and the developers who give lectures about the games and inside process of making them:

G4 Icons: Tim Schafer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq3azj99GyU

Tim Schafer' Full Throttle - interview (1996)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzLgcTZdnq0

Ron Gilbert - Maniac Mansion postmortem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNpjGvJwyL8

The Story of LucasArts panel ft. Douglas Crockford @ TechXploration, June 7, 2013 (Full)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxEUE5D52W4

Tim Schafer - Video Game History Month 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-YJxFxmyDI

EFMS - History of Point and Click Adventures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR12j_qbhv4

Oh yeah, before Disney bought Lucasarts they released Special Editions of Monkey Island, with updated graphics...

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXRWfrQDE-M

Commentary sessions with Schafer and Gibert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM8CH-UlVuQ

But Lucasarts modernized the MI-1:SE and fucked up the hair on Guybrush. So some guy made a fan-made patch that corrects his hipster hair to the old original haircut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeEFVekLOT8

>>1678203
ScummVM does not limit itself to Scumm support.

http://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/

Only the first paragraph of the table are Scumm games

And now for the game that as a kid made me jerk off more than I can count: Leisure Suit Larry 7 - Love for sail

>>1678268
There are number of easter eggs in the game, all of them unlock nudity.

>>1678270
All of them...

>>1678271
All...

>>1678274
If you manage to achieve all 1000 points in the game, you'll get the secret ending where you see Larry banging the Captain. You can unlock this without 1000 points by renaming the source files.

Here is obligatory guide to all easter eggs and in-jokes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1e2k6OlDFI

So the game was hard to run on newer systems, but eventually GOG made it happen. I'm not sure are the easter eggs are still in their version of the game, probably are.

>>1677383
not so fast.

>>1678268
>>1678270
>>1678271
>>1678274
>>1678278
Why did he have to remake the first one again ?

To bi continued....

Discworld 2 easter eggs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTqkq6s-FhM

Discworld 3 easter eggs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r3Lbvb-yQU

>>1677343
>didn't like the dig
>making one of these retarded reaction pics in the first place

can you be any more of a giant faggot

>>1678691
>implying i made the pic
The Dig is an excellent game... you hostile faggot.

So tomorrow I'm gonna rant about other games beside Lucasarts ones

>>1678185
Don't forget Myst and Riven!
Though, you need the daily build for it.

>>1679154
OP here. Myst and Riven are nicely packed at GOG. I've been wanting to play Must, but there are currently 4 VERSIONS:
- Myst (original)
- Myst Masterpiece (2D, better graphics)
- Real Myst (3D)
- Real Myst Masterpiece (3D in newer engine)

>>1679190
... it's the same fucking game in 4 versions. I'll probably play Myst Masterpiece, and for the lulz install Real Myst Masterpiece.

In the meantime, here are Making Of videos for Myst and RIven:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94pzx_9LkVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpE8NzIVDZ8

>>1679194
Fucking shit... is it just me, or RealMyst Masterpiece looks WORSE than RealMyst?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W79CC2EW4vo

>>1679190
Yeah, but the problem is that -at least on my machine- Myst and Riven need different versions of quicktime, and even after installing those it doesn't work and crashes. I've yet to encounter any problems playing through Myst on ScummVM.

>>1679245
Do the ancient versions of QuickTime used by Myst even install on modern operating systems?

>>1679279
Yeah, but I've had very limited success actually running Myst.

Very minor spoilers: The clock tower puzzle on the first age, pulling the weights or levers always crashes.

What happened to the lsl7 posts? Also, do Simon the sorcerer 2.

>>1679194

Any one know of a way to play riven without installing quicktime?

I haven't played it in fifteen years and I really want to, but quicktime is a bitch.

>>1679295
It looks like some mod deleted the pics cause they werent spoilered... I'll repost them. I've never played Simon, could you post some stuff about it?

>>1679284
GOG installs Qucik Time for Myst and Riven:
http://www.gog.com/forum/myst_series/riven_does_riven_install_quicktime

QUOTE: "Yes, both games (Myst & Riven) need Quicktime to run. In the end of installation, it will ask you if you want to install it."

>>1679284
> Yeah, but I've had very limited success actually running Myst.
Are you saying that GOG versions are bugged? But I've just seen that even ResidualVM branch with Myst support has it's bugs.

>>1679304

QuickTime Alternative or QuickTime Lite. Can't guarantee they'll work (QTL made TF2's replay function crash on me), but it's worth a shot.

>>1679314
>GOG installs Qucik Time for Myst and Riven:
It does? Must either be a new feature, newer than my backup installers.

>Are you saying that the GOG versions are bugged?
No. I don't think it's bugged. Perhaps just Windows 7 and wrong quicktime versions.

ResidualVM has Myst support? I though only ScummVM's daily builds did.
Though, that said, I've yet to encounter bugs with ScummVM's support with it.

>>1679349
I'll try, thanks.

>>1678249
Still doesn't fix how ugly the remake is in general.

>>1679314
You seem like you know a lot about Myst so I'll ask

is realMYST any good?

>>1679669
When it came out it was sluggish and poorly optimized. Felt strange, but after playing Amnesia you get used to FPS-adventure interface... words cannot describe, watch some walkthrough and decide for yourself. If you're oldschool maybe you'll hate the semi-freedom you have.

Mountain Man
>Point & Click
>Non-linear, you choose where to travel
>360 degree panorama views
>Fuckin bears and wolves and mountain lions trying to kill you

I wish there were more games like this

bumping this great thread

Reposting Larry 7 easter eggs
1/5

>>1680752
This time the images are under spoilers, so I don't know what else can I do...
2/7

>>1680756
... i mean, it's not even pornography. It's even less nudity than some Greek statues are.
3/7

>>1680758
I don't understand why mods delted the images first time around. This was in a game that had lesser age restriction than 4chan
4/5

>>1680760
So there you go: Leisure Suit Larry 7 easter eggs.
And this is the dirty ending that you get when achieve 1000 points in the game
5/5

>>1676821

Got anything from Inherit the Earth?

>>1680762
No, sorry... I've played a lot of p&c games but not that one. Mostly "mainstream" p&c games... but everyone is free to contribute to this thread :)

So Moebius came out recently... I heard, actually, the whole internet agrees: the game is a piece of shit.

So I remembered another failed Jane Jensen project: Gray Matter

So this shit was advertised as the next big thing, Jane Jensen project... p&c revival

But the development lasted longer than Broken Age.

Basically, the whole engine was re-written because it was originally outsourced to some hungarian programming company, and Jane was not amused

>>1680809
Here is the final product. The first image is from the promo/demo screenshot. Then Jane assigned some other company to do the graphics. This is the final result.

>>1680809
Here is the final product. The first image is from the promo/demo screenshot. Then Jane assigned some other company to do the graphics. This is the final result.

Gray Matter: Demo

>>1680823
Gray Matter: The Final Shit

If I'm being too negative about this game, by describing it as "shit" in every sentence, it's because of several factors...

>>1678185
Is this really true, I did play Broken Sword 1 on Scumm VM

>>1680831
It has the same concept as Grim Fandango and as Syberia: 2D background with 3D characters.

But here is the shit part:
- every room change activates loading screen that lasts 30 sec
- animation is on level with first sims games, they all "float" and have no life
- cutscenes are PowerPoint presentations of concept art drawn with no style
- story is for middle aged goth women, full of eternal love shit... TWILIGHT LEVEL
- ending is rushed

>>1680836
ScummVM supports a lot of games:
http://scummvm.org/compatibility/

So the Gray Matter: didn't like it.

>>1680836
P.S. Even GOG uses ScummVM to run a lot of their games:
http://www.gog.com/mix/games_compatible_with_scummvm

This reminds me why i hate newer p&c games:
- they all have enormous pases between dialog lines
- background is 100% static, no life
- character animation is like the animators haven't heard of skeletal animation

>>1680852
Well it seems that I can finally try to play The 7th Guest, even if it's bad I want see it

>>1680858
But the old games don't have that:
- dialog is fluent
- there is something animated in the background
- animations look like they've used motion capture

>>1680864
So you pick up a game like Grim Fandango and it has background animation like: watterfall, festival, bee workers, racing track mob...

Then you see Hector punching the bag fluently, Manny scratching himself in idle animation.

Then you hear how dynamic the dialog is, no unnecessary pauses, eveything sounds like real dialog. You can get the mood from their voices.

Nowdays bunch of slackjaw faggots stand in a recording booth and speak their lines like they're on drugs.

I'll come back tomorrow and post something positive, enough of this hate talk bout new games and their low production value

Sam & Max season 3 alternative endings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhCc2aJWclA

So guys, there was this great PDF here years ago:

http://bestialmotions.com/gadv/

It was called "History of Graphic Adventures".

Not to be confused with:
>>1677337

Was anyone sane enough to save it or has another link? It was awesome, and I was too young to care...

I wrote the current (Spanish) owners of the domain, but they didn't care to respond.

>>1676821
REMAKE ANNOUNCED ON PS4 AND PSVITA

I love you all.

>>1681479
not /vr/

>>1681479
God damn, I don't venture into /v/ so I didn't hear about this. What great news! Can't say I'm gonna buy a PS4 to play it though...

>>1681519
It's apparently getting a PC release as well.

>>1681505
Sorry, I know the rules :) I was just too excited from coming on /vr/ this afternoon for the first time in months, seeing this thread, then seeing the remake announced hours later :)

Incidentally, since Syberia was mentioned in any way shape or form and I bought that game, is it possible to get the resolution to a functional state with a 1600x900 monitor? It's pretty weak when stuff is outside my field of view that I need to see. I haven't progressed past the second or third screen because of that issue.

>>1681505
Really? Announced remaster of an 15 yr old game is not considered /vr/ in any way?

>>1681792
Syberia is locked in at 4:3 aspect ratiom you can let it stretch or you can go into your vidya options under resolution and set the option NOT TO stretch when changing to non-standard resolution. You'll get black bars on the side, but the aspect ratio will be OK.

>>1680823
>>1680826
It's the opposite, no ?

bump

>>1681902
I ultimately just switched it to windowed mode using an ini file... The steam version doesn't have the same video options I guess. Odd, but the game runs now, and I can alt tab, so whatever. Cheers.

>>1681524
Last I heard was "we're discussing it".

Probably will eventually.

>>1677092
that's probably what happened. you can say the same exact thing about MI3

>>1676837
even before it came out, people were sceptical about the premis of the story ("guybrush on his quest for legal documents"). and that was the main issue. the story wasn't 'piraty' at all, it felt too contemporary for a monkey island game. I've tried playing the game maybe 5 times over a course of 10 years, and each time i get bored and leave it mid chapter 2.

>>1678691
there's nothing good about the dig other than the music and art.
shit voice acting
shit gameplay (myst puzzles and glowing sticks)
no characters to interact with except your 2 boring sidekicks (which you barely interact with them anyway for the first half of the game)
I liked the story but the way they presented it could have been so much better.

a classic 6/10. if it wasn't done by Lucasarts, no one would have given a shit.

>>1678173
honestly, most of the scumm games that are 16 bit i can't really tell the difference between that and 256 color. example: Spy fox 3 is 16 bit, but 1 and 2 are 256 colors. all look the same.

>>1678174
the thing about Lucasarts is they have great programmers that always give an extra effort. even in the MI1 remake, they specifically made it so when guybrish says the wrong comeback in the insult sword fighting, he would sound unsure of himself, which is a nice touch, which they definitely didn't HAVE to add it.

>>1678185
>>9000 Scumm games
i would like to see a list of those >9000, good sir. i find it highly unlikely that there are this many.

>>1678195
he's a big demon.

>>1678194
Humongous Entertainment, funded by Ron Gilbert, use Scumm for most of their games. I assume he just took the source code with him when he left and Lucas didn't really care?

>>1678212
that's funny, i remember actually playing that knife game, but not asking 51 times.

>>1679314
>never played Simon
you just lost all credibility, brah.

>>1680803
tried to play it, but it has an timed puzzle right at the beginning where you have to wait 30 minutes for someone to show up before you can continue the game. (instead of doing the usual adventure game thing of having people show up after you do a certain actions, i dunno why anyone thought it was a good idea)

>>1683057
Come at me brah, what have you played?

>>1683851

I played the first 3 simon games so will give what little information I know and have found.

Simon 1 and 2 are adventure comedy games. But they're set in a fantasy location, drawing from C.S Lewis, tolkien etc. They follow the story of a British teenager who gets sent to the fantasy world from his bedroom and has to find a way back home.

The 3rd game is 3D and the 4th and 5th lose the British charm massively, they're not even made by the same people so I would give them a miss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_the_Sorcerer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_the_Sorcerer_II:_The_Lion,_the_Wizard_and_the_Wardrobe

The designer of the games Simon Woodroffe, is a well-known British adventure game designer, being involved in other classics such as Feeble files and Waxworks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeble_Files

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waxworks_(1992_video_game)

All these games were made by simon Woodroffe companies (waxworks was horrorsoft's last game before becoming adventure soft).

After these companies unfortunately went belly up he went on to form headfirst productions, which released Call of Cthulu: Dark corners of the Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Corners_of_the_Earth

Since this didn't work out either, Simon has worked for Midway, Ubisoft and as SEGA’s Head of Game Design for SEGA West.

>>1683889

In 2012 Simon Woodroffe moved to Rare: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2012/04/17/simon-woodroffe-joins-rare/.. He still remains there and can be found on the twitter: https://twitter.com/SimonSorcerer

As far as a magnum opus I would say the Feeble Files is his best point and click, it's the biggest, originally coming on 4 discs for Windows (mainly due to large cutscenes). The story, although funny, never gets to the point where you don't empathise with the main character, Feeble, because he is just so beta (indeed the games tagline was: "Rebellion has never looked so pathetic").

>>1683851
EV-ERY-THING!

>>1684016
Could you remind me what P&C Kickstarter games have and will be released... as well as remasters?

KICKSTARTER:
Broken Age
Broken Sword 5 (+ Steel Sky announced)
Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded
Tex Murphy Tesla
Armikogg

REMASTERS:
Grim Fandango Remaster

>>1684027
Does Shadowgate count ?

>>1677337
>http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/book.html
Never was a fan of the site. Articles could be incredibly biased at some times.

monkey island 1 is overrated. there, i said it.

>>1684071
The only one I can think of that was biased was the Zelda CD-I article. The guy got so much grief for it.

>>1683889
The Simon series came about when Simon and Mike tried to obtain the rights to make a Discworld game.

Simon has tweeted that he did not like how Simon 3D turned out, and would be happy to some day take on the project to make a real Simon 3.

Before Simon 3 shifted to 3D, Adventure Soft released a bunch of screenshots, they can be viewed here
http://www.adventurearchiv.de/s/simon32Dscreenshots.htm

The first two Simon games were not just created by brothers, almost all of the Woodroffe family shipped in to make it happen. The credits for Simon 2 are highly interesting to watch.

That's all I have.

Thanks to this thread, I learned that both Pajama Sam games run on SCUMM and that I can play them for the first time in more than 15 years.

I loved all the scenery interactions, and I remember this and Super Mario Land 2 teaching me about exploration and the rewards of poking around as opposed to running through the main game at 90 miles an hour.

>>1684215
No it isn't. There, I corrected you.

>>1685093
>both Pajama Sam games
>both
you realize there are 4 games in the series, right?

How about that Deathgate, eh?

>>1684027
Gabriel Knight 20th anniversary edition
http://www.gabrielknight20th.com/
http://www.adventuregamers.com/articles/view/26223

>>1685649
never heard of it. How is it ? Look like Shadowgate.

noice thread m8

>>1683015
I guess it didn't bother me because I always thought of MI as a humor series primarily and a pirate series second. Though the big attack on commercialism definitely makes it the black sheep of the series, it was still delightfully silly. The pirate who won't talk to you with two hand puppets because three people constitutes a conspiracy, the tourist island with the lame pirate restaurant, et cetera.

>>1686804
for what it's worth, i still see it as more of a monkey island game than telltale's attempt. for me, they pretty much buried the series with their mediocrity.

>>1684027
I don't know if you'd count it among the others, but a new installment in the Longest Journey/Dreamfall series is in development after a successful Kickstarter run.

>>1684215
It is a very fun game, but I agree that CoMI is the better series entry.

What are some good detective point and click games?
I was thinking about getting L.A. Noire, but having already beaten it and not wanting to cover shoot made me think otherwise.

>>1686931
CoMI was my first monkey island, but 2 takes the crown for me.

>>1687207
The Testament of Sherlock Holmes.
not retro, tho

Moar cut-content, more secrets, more easter eggs, more production secrets!

>>1678174
there's a little thing i didn't see mentioned anywhere, but when you fire the cannon at the beginning of the game, if you manage to hit all the boats without missing once, guybrush will say 'perfect'.

So if you want to play Telltale's Sam&Max you'd be suprised that it doesn't support Widescreen!

But once agin, some guy made a patch that let's you input any desired resolution:
http://www.wsgf.org/book/export/html/5159

I haven't tested this on the GOG versions of the game.

>>1679204
>no fog
>bloom
>dat textures
Looks like another ZOMG_TEH_GRAPHIX-mod.

>>1676821
Matke?

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Blazing Dragons yet — it's one of my favourite p&c adventures of all time. Terry Jones (of Monty Python fame) was behind the animated series and the game, so you know the puzzles will be weird and the humour zany and Pythonesque.

For some reason it was never released on PC; pick it up on PSX or Saturn if you're interested. It's also a rare example of a game that was never released in Japan.

Longplay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYPBQBJxuT0

I suck dick at point and click adventures. Somehow I can't think out of the box. I still love them though.

>>1689973
nobody's is 'good' at p&c.
if you can't figure shit out, it's probably the game's insane logic that's in fault.

Best way to play Maniac Mansion in this day and age?

>>1690162
There was at least one graphically enhanced version for some obscure system.

>>1690174
FM Towns?

>>1678173

The 8bit colors actually add a huge amount of charm to it. The grainy dithering is what does it. Add some sort of indefinable warmth to the art.

>>1690162
>try to play MM countless times over the last 20 years
>always end up with all 3 characters locked in the cellar.
god damn it.

Leisure suit Larry 7 is one of my all time favorite games. I can play it at least one time each year and just fall asleep watching a play through. I don't know what it is about it, but I just love it.

>>1691229
how can you fall asleep while fapping?

>>1691935
I don't fap. I'm too old for that.

>>1691229
I remember lending my cousin the game once then coming back a week later to pick take it back. Turns out he was stuck at the Liar's Dice game for the whole week and couldn't figure out how it works. I can still remember his amazed look on his face when i sat down and beaten it for him after 5 minutes.

>>1690639
Didn't you know you could use the loose brick to open the door?

>>1687207
Deja Vu 1-2

>>1687207
Blade Runner
In Memoriam ( aka Evidence )
Tex Murphy

>>1684071
>Expecting people who write articles about games they like not to be biased

It is very rarely anyone would write an in depth article for a game they don't enjoy

>>1692176
you can only do it once tho, no?
also, i think it depends on the character. like, Bernard isn't strong enough to push the brick or some shit?

>>1684215
Well, aren't you are a special unique snowflake?

>>1692194
It is tho. it doesn't even get interesting until you actually reach Monkey Island™

>>1677343

I'm just relieved to know I'm not the only one who disliked Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

>>1692198
I think the general consensus is that it's mediocre at best.

>>1689973

I had to keep looking up solutions to Monkey Island 2's puzzles because those puzzles require the ability to be funny to solve them. And I'm not a funny person.

>>1692203
>dat monkey wrench puzzle

>>1680858
>- they all have enormous pases between dialog lines

Jesus fucking christ, this.

Well, not much love lost since P&C games since the LEC era have all been horribly written, but still... At least record the fucking dialogue properly without awkward pauses.

>>1692706
this is why text adventures are superior.

>>1692758

... Or why LEC adventures are superior.

>>1692806
The Dig had horrible voice acting, tho. Especially for Maggie.

>IT.HAPPENED.TOO.FAST. BEEP.

>>1685804
It's really, really good.

>Just finished both first Monkey Island games
>Try to play Full Throttle
>Becoming bored and tired of it

What do

>>1693691
me too. but months/years later tried it again, and it was OK.

OP here, crunch time at work, been staring at the screen for 5 days coding shit. I'll continue posting stuff in 3 days, I just need to rest my fucking eyes and back from sitting at the PC.

IF YOU WANT ENHANCED SOUNDTRACKS TO YOU OLD 8-bit GAMES, GO HERE:
http://www.jameswoodcock.co.uk/content/scummvm-music-enhancement-project/

>>1693691
>Full Throttle more boring than Monkey 1

I don't get that.

Just loving all the information you posted about Grim Fandango, thank you OP!

>>1694325
I'm happy to share all the obscure shit i've gathered over the years :)

Pic related: it's the building Scahfer used as an inspiration to DOD building. I think he said in some video clip that he had a DENTIST there!?!

I know kq7 has a bad rep, but it was the first pc game I owned. It came bundled with our Compaq Presario 486dx2. I played the shit out of it and figured out all the stupid puzzles on my own.

since I never played any of the previous entries I had nothing to compare it to. It's how I fell in love with the genre, and I still get nostalgic listening to the soundtrack

So any more news on the Grim Fandango remake?

>>1696228
this video has a few bits about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNhE7zxJymE

it's also the video where the dentist entrance hall from >>1694943 is mentioned iirc

>>1679204
I don't care for either RealMyst but something you can't see clearly from this video is the significantly improved textures in the new one. It seemed like they've messed up some of the color balance and contrast in places, but original RealMyst looks pretty bad whenever you get close to anything. It's one of the reasons I prefer the slideshow style, each frame is carefully composed to look good and show you what you need to see (barring a few annoying areas).

>>1694943
Wow, that's cool. Looked at the pic and immediately recognized what room it corresponds to in the game. Thanks for the post, anon-kun.

How many of you beat Grim Fandango without using a guide? I got stuck in like 10 different places and didnt even end up finishing it.

>>1697264
year 2 had some pretty bullshit puzzles and it was long as fuck. i wouldn't judge anyone who decides to quit mid way through that chapter.

>>1697376
thats the one in the night club right

>>1697440
>thats the one

*That's the one

>>1697459
ah, yes. the autistic grammar nazi. tell me when your sweet 16 is ill buy you something on gog.

bump

>>1691992
How old are you? I'm 27 and still fap three times a day. Is something wrong with me?

>>1698543

in a decade from now everything will change for you

>>1697264
Certainly not me. I got about 1/3 through and said fuck it. But I'm not very patient to begin with.

>>1697440
It's the one that's the majority of the game.
I'd say chapter two constitutes about 50% of the playtime, while the rest of the chapters combined are the remaining 50%

>>1698713
It's a real pain to get around in that place, too. Such a sprawling area with so many places in it, and you will damn sure have gotten to know every nook and cranny by the time you're done with the chapter.

>>1698789
at least the style and story gives you some incentive to actually try to play it, unlike, say, Monkey Island 4, that at chapter 2 opens up a ton of areas, each filled with invisible walls and roads that lead to nowhere. God, that game annoys me.

In Leisure Suit Larry 7, Torrin, from Torrin's Passage makes a cameo as a cameraman in one of Larry's naked walk of shame to his cabin.

>>1697264
>tfw you replayed it so often you wish you could forget the puzzles again but you remember them all by heart ;(

>>1699018
Don't remind me dammit

>>1699018
give it 10 years of none playing. the brain is great at forgetting and making up fake memories.

>>1699267
Nope dawg, I'm cursed with remembering every goddamn puzzle, because during the days of "no youtube walkthroughs" as a kid I had to think really fucking hard to solve those puzzles. So they're fucking burned into my brain...

The only thing I can't remember is the spot in Full Throttle where you have to kick the wall.

Point and clicks have great storylines and characters but I derive no enjoyment in solving the dev's weird logic. It makes me sad sometimes, I just can't play them without following a guide.

Could anyone recommend some good horror and/or sci-fi point-and-clicks?

I've been playing I have No Mouth and I Must Scream the last couple days, and I've come to the conclusion that it's intentionally designed to make you dead end yourself repeatedly.

>>1699267
>>1700774
last withdrawal phase i had was 6 years- started it up again, remembering everything.

>>1700801
the idea with schäfers games is usually that you can let go of any notion of real-life logic and adapt to a weird computergame logic. it really pisses me of though when you already figured most of it out but there are mutliple mechanics in the game that do similar things and you have to find the right one for no apparent reason. i thought for the longest time that you should make the teeth imprints in the first year of GF with the packing foam instead. the solution makes more sense, but this happens to me a lot. And grim had some really almost unsolvable ones like the marrow tree in the forrest - i used a guide for that one, i'll admit. I hope Tim plays this one in his next videos and can't remember at all how it's done.

>>1700876
IHNMAIMS is great, i don't know a game like it.
Games that have some elements of horror/despair or are horror game in the classical sense are more common, like beneath a steel sky, sanitarium.. i heard good things about dreamweb, never played it. the old blade runner p&c had a great feeling of despair to it. There was a game called gorky 21 that i always wanted to play as a kid but never got hold of it. i think it was a mix of a horror p&c and baldur's gate like combat.

>>1700898
>gorky 21
Gorky 17 you mean. I've played it. It's alright but it's too shallow to be Baldur's Gate tier.
Apparently Gorky 21 has been rescheduled for 2016.

Gorky 17 can be bought on Steam for 5 bucks.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/253920/

>>1700876
I really like the game 'the white chamber'.
It's a freeware fan made, but it's really good, fully voice acted (poorly, but still) and everything. has multiple ending. really good.

>>1700987
I second this, just be prepared to spend a few minutes getting use to the art style.

Broken Sword Easter eggs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pCqKp536xc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chg9t4bCvB8

Grim Fandango updates from Tim Schafer himself
1/3

Grim Fandango updates from Tim Schafer himself
2/3

Grim Fandango updates from Tim Schafer himself
3/3

Has Schafer said anything about the soundtrack or the voice acting? I'm wondering if there'll be anything new.

>>1703462
I'm guessing there won't be any major changes, unless they have the original recordings, in which case they'll probably make the soundtrack a good ol' 5.1

Bumping with some rye.
Want it? Course you do.

Wow this thread is still going?

>>1706629
playing Discworld on scummvm is a bad idea, you only get the midi music and not the glory of the true soundtrack.

doxbox is the way to go with discworld 1.

>>1706690
not sure what you mean? discworld used midi only as far as i know. in any case, you can hear cd-audio in scummvm if you rip it as mp3\ogg\whatever and put in the game directory.
there's also a music enhancement patch in the site from >>1693829

>>1706629
>Dos version of KQ6

>>1702945
>>1702947
>>1702949

He really has no clue what he's doing right now. What comes of this remaster is still completely unknown as far as I'm concerned.

I can't have been the only one who played The Journeyman Project: Pegasus Prime can I?

Quite similar to Myst. Pretty impressive presentation, with FMVs everywhere you go.

Does anyone played Dragon Lore?

I stumbled upon it in a gog bundle recently and I'm intending to start playing it tonight.

>>1707270
Is there a better one?

>>1694995
KQVI was my first PC game, and it is worlds better than VII. VIII is also pretty good.

>>1707627
The windows 3.11 version. higher res, better character portraits and on point lip-sync on them. also, a 3d animated intro.

>>1706629
Christ that's a lot of floppy discs

don't you 404 on me babe... there are still many to discover the beauty of these games

>>1681227
>http://bestialmotions.com/gadv/


Used Wayback Machine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20101005063726/http://bestialmotions.com/gadv

It should be this, actually:
http://blogoscoped.com/graphic-adventures/

>>1680798
Gray Matter was so fucking bad

>1681981
No, that's really how it is. The final version looks much better.

>>1680843
>story is for middle aged goth women, full of eternal love shit... TWILIGHT LEVEL

This was the worst part about it. You had some interesting stuff about a weird magician girl in a weird haunted house and then the creepy spooky guy is basically just a mary sue character. It sucks!

What's the point and click mystery game that actually took you by surprise with twists and had you playing for the story to try to find out what would happen?=

I tried to play Leisure Suit Larry 1, after 30 minutes inside Lefty's I manage to score 2 points...
I feel terrible, I barely started the game and I have to cheat, at least I can blame language barrier a bit (like all those beaver jokes that made no sense to me when I was younger)

>>1710748
which version are you playing?

>>1711292
DOS version, the one with text parser. I wanted to try this one before going to the "reloaded" version that GOG is selling.

>>1711358
don't bother with reloaded, just play the vga remake. It's the best version.

>>1677343
>Not liking the dig

shiggydig

>>1712354
what's good about it, aside from music and art style?
nothing. >>1683027 speaks the truth.

>>1712369
>>1683027
I bet you don't even know what kind of developing hell The Dig went through and your're there thinking it was a cash-in. You couldn't be farther away from the truth. Only a labor of love saved this game from the cutting room floor. You may dislike what the final product looks like, but it was the best way to salvage it all.

http://dig.mixnmojo.com/museum/history.html
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digtext1.html
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digbm1.html
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/digsc1.html

Now please read, it's a good story. Don't ever bully The Dig again.

I'm working on a 3D point and click adventure game that's about to be finished before the week is over. I've mostly posted it in AGDG on /vg/, but I have been visiting /vr/ since it came.

I know it's not retro but I try to make it look retro. It's called Catmouth Island. :3

>>1712395
>low poly art style

I like you. Please make sure it runs on a toaster.

>>1712395
I also made this a long time ago, and I got a few requests from people to help convert the old games to vector graphics, but nothing came of it since they were all just talking words and had nothing else to show for it, sadly.

>>1712401
That's the goal!

I've used the old N64-convention of low-poly characters plus that I have given myself a top limit of 300 polys at most to spend on per character, so it's pretty low-poly.

>>1712394
>I bet you don't even know what kind of developing hell The Dig went through and your're there thinking it was a cash-in. You couldn't be farther away from the truth.
Why would you assume that? And why would the fact that it was in development hell make it excusable? Nearly every game that's pushed back and have development issues turns out to be bad, and this game was no exception.

>>1712395
>WIP in progress
chuckled.

>>1712404
shieeet dawg! that's how a remaster of an old school adventure game should look like!

Plz post moar!

>>1712404
Well, Monkey Island was remastered by Lucasarts, now Disney is remastering Grim Fandango... I think there was an article somewhere that Day of the Tentacle Remastered was in pre-prodcution... If GF goes well maybe theyll continue with others.

>>1714873
I was right:
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/28/report-day-of-the-tentacle-remake-80-percent-done-before-luca/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezU_W-Od8wo

any space quest fans here? backed the kickstarter by the creators but haven't followed up on how it's turning out

>>1715284
5 is the only good one

>>1696508
fuck that's awesome

>>1676821
I think i should ask here instead of making a thread.
Does anybody know how to run a game in 16 bits without having to change Windows 7 configuration? I mean forcing Windows 7 to change colors whenever i run a specific game.

>>1707517
I hope it means better point n click games in the long run. I don't think Grim Fandango was a step in the right direction for adventure games but it's better than modern indie games or the crap that Microids has been making. Maybe it will help raise people's standards.

>>1715554
what games are you trying to run and why would you want to do that?

>>1715554
16bit color settings or 16 bit system?

bump u fukks, there's more stuff to be said

>>1720373
like what?

Anyone played the Another World remastered yet?
I think they could have gone further with it with the character design and stuff. it's basically like a smoothing of edges for most scenes. And the remastered soundtrack doesn't really stand out (maybe that was the point?)
Also I don't remember the original being this buggy. I've been running past shooting guards, and sometimes barriers wouldn't work. It's a painful experience.

>>1676821
I know this is /vr/ and all, but this point & click game is only 0.69$ on steam right now. I picked it up because the art style reminded me of GF and I'm going to play it later tonight. Looking forward to it, hope it won't disappoint!

>>1721917
Whoops, forgot the picture.

>>1721873
Running past shooting guards and barriers not working is functioning as intended.

You usually need to drop 3 or 5 force fields if its a decent fight. Then guards have storm trooper aim. A lot of time bullets will go through you. At one point you drop on top of a dozen guards and your just supposed to leg it

And then you die randomly like 6 times but you're doing the right thing just running

fucking god /vr/

someone just put up a stream of /vr/ playing P&C adventure games

>>1715284

Hells yeah. Played em all, loved em all, including the Space Quest 2 VGA fan remake.

Did you ever talk to the condiments when you worked at the burger place?

>>1721919
>>1721917
isn't this just an ''episode 1' of a none existent series? i don't think ep 2 will be coming. also, it's based off a free AGS game, iirc. exact same story and puzzles, but in 2d.