/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1636432
>Doing more work than necessary on a game to fill in your autism and OCD

>>1636432
People don't have infinite life span, Jim.

>>1636432
>french version

Enjoy your Clad

>>1636448
The fan translated German version is the way to go (if you can read German)

Nigga I got better shit to do than steal 99 shinra bucklers from those fools on the boat. Bitches be waitin for me in Costa del Sol anyway.

I spent days farming exp until everyone was at lvl 99. I heard Sephorith was even harder, or something sweet like that. I had materia flowing out everywhere. I had magic counter linked to knights of the round. I think you could do something when you died? I had that liked to Phoenix.

Anyway, it was all shit. Nothing was different, and it was even easier because everyone was ridiculously overleveled.

>>1636432
the character portraits in FF7 are always cooler than I remember

But you've only got 98 Ragnaroks

I never cared about having 99 of every item, but i did grind stat items and materia to get the master materias. my amount of gil was random symbols on the save screen.

When I was a kid I tried teaching all the magic to everyone in FF6 and then leveling them all up to 99. It was taking forever so I got bored and just beat the final dungeon. Never tried anything like it again. Such a waste of time.

>>1636432

>Pierre
>Not Claude

Sure thing Guillaume

>>1636432
>Cid's health isn't 9999
>Nanaki

I play games to have a good time, not so I can go to chink cartoon imageboards to show everyone how autismally I can perform repetitive tasks.

>>1636432
>Wasting time level grinding in a Final Fantasy when you can just spam your most powerful spells on most bosses.
Dude, I don't even 100% most of the short linear action games that I own, while would I do it with an already bloated JRPG.

>Safer∙Sephiroth's base stats are listed in the table, but they change depending on many variables:

>For every character at Level 99 (not counting Aeris), 30,000 maximum HP, 2 Attack, 20 Defense, 5 Magic, and 16 Magic Defense are added to Safer∙Sephiroth's stats.
>If Knights of the Round was cast on Jenova∙SYNTHESIS, Safer∙Sephiroth receives an extra 80,000 maximum HP.
For every time Bizarro∙Sephiroth's head was killed during the previous fight, Safer∙Sephiroth's maximum HP is reduced by 100, up to a maximum reduction of 24,900 HP.
>Considering all these, Safer∙Sephiroth's maximum stats (bracketed in the table) are:

>400,000 maximum HP, 246 Attack, 260 Defense, 140 Magic Power, and 308 Magic Defense.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Safer%E2%88%99Sephiroth

>>1636432
this makes me feel sad for some reason

>Completing a JRPG in French

Do people really do this?

>>1636761
I hear the French do it sometimes.

>>1636751
>For every time Bizarro∙Sephiroth's head was killed during the previous fight, Safer∙Sephiroth's maximum HP is reduced by 100, up to a maximum reduction of 24,900 HP
I do not want to know who killed his head 249 times just to test this.

>>1636432
I hear the neurotypical do it sometimes.

>>1636761
Kids who grew up in a French speaking country before they were fluent in English

>>1636432
>Ragnarok
>98

Get it together, Pierre.

>>1636521
I once tried to level up every weapon and every spell in Secret of Mana with every character

>Completing a JRPG without leveling up at all
>Do people really not do this?
>So fucking lazy.

>>1636791
>tfw an RPG forces you to gain levels through scripted events

It's impressive that some people manage to turn "press X to teen drama" games into dick measuring contests.
Why don't you go teabag some guy in counterstrike.

>>1636815
>Dragon Quest IV
>Ragnar's chapter
>King just dumps a ton of EXP on me for completing the mission just because

Well alrighty then.

>>1636819
It's impressive that some people manage to turn posting on an image board into dick measuring contests.
Why don't you go call someone a newfag on /b/.

I grew out of grinding when I was 16 or so. Low-level, minimalist runs or at least some sort of limitations are much more interesting.

I understand doing "perfect games" as long as it means having at least one of every item and doing everything you possibly can. However I'll never understand the point of having 99 of everything and gringing everyone to level 99. Seriously what's the point? Waste your fucking time?

>>1636761
Yea, fuck those faggots for not playing JRPGs in their original Japanese glory. On more serious note do French or people in other countries that got localized versions of games prefer the localized version they got or the English version? As someone living in Finland, a country that never got localized version of anything (apart from few games targeted to kids starting with 5th gen systems) this actually interests me. Personally I have tried playing fan-translated Finnish versions of Chrono Trigger and Tales of Phantasia myself and they just didn't feel right.

if i was gonna spend this much time doing tedious shit i'd want to get paid for my time. enjoy your autism OP

>>1636436
>Calls out on autism
>Posts edgy anime gif

>>1636815
At that point it becomes "minimum level"

I would do this kind of shit back when I could get like one or two games a year, and only had that to play, as I had already played the shit out of my other games.

But now? Fuck no. I have better things to do. Any sense of fun or satisfaction from doing that is not worth the ten billion hours it takes to do it.

>>1636872
>Not liking D.Gray-man

>>1636893
4chan is 18 and up

>>1636840
What did you think of the Finnish translation of Simon's Quest?

>>1636894
This is 4chan. How do you distinguish the NEETs, the neckbeards and the weeaboos from the teenagers?

>>1636894
>Thinking you need to be a teenager to enjoy D.Gray-man
Nigga you need to watch better chinese cartoons.

>>1636894
>Implying only people under 18 watch D.Gray-man

>>1636903
>>1636904
Oh, I forgot that you aren't mentally above 18

>>1636902
We don't we just do our best to make them better people

>>1636905
>Implying cartoon taste has anything to do with mental age

>>1636913

>implying anyone who finds anime remotely watchable isn't going to be mentally 14 until they die

too late for you austismo-san

>>1636896
The translation is very well done (possibly the best Finnish fan-translation I have ever seen) but after playing the game for 25 years in English it just feels strange and I still prefer playing it in English. Apart from the god tier (re)translations to both Finnish and English I'm even more impressed with the other things they made to the game as they really improve it and fixes all small flaws it had.

>>/a/

>>1636904

mostly 14 year old girls i'd imagine...

Maybe I'm stupid, but how is it even possible to get 99 of everything? Is there a way to duplicate equipment or something?

>>1636996
There is an item duplication glitch you can do with the W-Item command but IIRC it doesn't work with equipment its more than likely OP cheated with something like Game Shark.

OP reminds me of Uillillia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoKXXHsTbIU

>>1637007
You can do the w-item glitch with any item, google it

>>1637009
Is that the same guy who spent 10 years levelling in Disgaea 2, not even having played storyline mode once, just so he can build up a character that can, on the most extremely optimalized conditions, could pull off 20 billion damage in one hit?

>>1637025
Probably. Ulillillia is autistic, apart from other mental illnesses. He was the /v/ darling circa 2008 or so, the perceived antipode of the sexual and violent autist Chris-chan.

>>1637020
Well, I'll be darned. Still whether OP used W-Item glitch or Game Shark to get 99 of items in his screenshot isn't any kind of accomplishment and proves absolutely nothing.

>>1636840
>the localized version they got or the English version?

Depends. In older games, the difference isn't that big since both are more or less terrible translations made with not enough time and/or people whose Japanese skills aren't exactly stellar. If the quality is on par, I usually go with our (German) version since I simply prefer the language over English.

Speaking of which, the new FF7 fan-translation is fantastic. You actually know what's going on this time..

>>1637164
This isn't the one where Cait Sith is replaced by a self-insert is it?

>>1637172

I doubt it. It's pretty close to the original Japanese version in terms of story.

>>1637172
>Cait Sith is replaced by a self-insert

Oh Jesus, I forgot about that shit. Did they ever actually finish that?

>>1637172
>that guy

>>1637172
I hope you're joking

>>1637201
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.msg209230#msg209230

It's no joke, mate.

>>1637204

>>1636539
NANAKI IS NANAKI

>>1637204
>J R R Tolkien said it best in the following passage, upset by a translator's hack job with his material:...this is an 'imaginary' world does not give him any right to remodel it according to his fancy

>Cait's going no matter WHAT you say.

>>1637204
>Cait Sith is a poorly written character
>Iscar is from Judus Iscariot, and Matthias was the apostle chosen to replace him. I have chosen these names to be symbolic of the character's betrayal, and change into a valued ally

This is George Lucas tier writing

>>1637235
The hypocrisy is staggering. They go on and on about how the original translation butchered the game and ruined the true vision of the creators, then they turn around and take a huge shit on those same creators by saying Cait Sith doesn't even deserve to be in the game.

>>1637204

That's not even a translation, just a Mary Stu fanfic character. http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2183/ is the translation I was speaking of.

>>1637204
I never used Cait nor cared but jesus christ that guy's fedora and autism is off the fucking scale.

>>1637204
I don't know what to say

>>1636432
>Pierre

Fucking frog

>>1637251
>Language: German

Oh

>>1637251
It's part of a mod compilation that includes a full retranslation. I'm not sure if their translation requires their stupid original character, but I get the sense that it does.

The translation never bothered me much, to be honest, but I really hope there are other English translation projects out there that don't have all the attached autism. Would be pretty sad if this is the only one going on.

>>1637275
The undertaking of a retranslation of a game that's 18-19 is pretty autistic as is.

>>1636432
How can you do this without cheating? Some items you can only get once.

>>1637314
W-item bruh

What "big details" do the original FF7 translation miss out on anyway? Stuff that is related to understanding the storyline, not "keep going off course".

>>1637326
can't use W-Item on weapons.

>>1637329
As far as I was ever able to ascertain, it was mostly plot nuances. In other words, nothing major. Slight details that lead to major misinterpretations. Like the Sephiroth "clones" in Neibleheim. It's also hard to follow that the Sephiroth you see for the majority of the game is actually Jenova. That took me years to figure out.

>>1637275
The original character is a separate mod you can download, they are creating seven different custom mods for optional use with their translation such as a difficulty mod, cheats, or a new quest.
Though that still doesn't alleviate my concerns with their translation. With that level of cognitive dissonance I wonder how 'accurate' it will be. especially after I've read some of their forum posts and they continue to say FF7 was a 'dark' game originally. Maybe the translation is butchered, but to me the game always seemed mostly lighthearted adventure.

>>1637204
Iscar is my favorite FF7 character.

>>1637341
I'm shocked to have anyone describe FFVII as a lighthearted adventure. I think with the original translation in mind, the story was a tad darker than anything else done in the series to that point. I'll give some examples: gene replication gone awry, genocide (of the ancients), implied rape and sexual torture (of Areith as well as her biological mother), insanity, the coping with death and loss, murder in general, prostitution and general exploration of women from the slums, the threats of genital mutilation... I feel like I could go on but I'm too tired.

>>1637329
>>1637336
>In other words, nothing major.
Nothing minor either. I've played the original version. It's exactly as silly, and jsut as terribly written as the English version. The myth literally is damage control performed by fans who, as they age, need to find new ways to explain how their favourite work of art is so amateurishly scripted.

>>1637204
> removing all traits of cait sith because he was poorly written
> replacing it with Iscar as if he was written better

I hated cait sith as a kid but really you're going to replace him. What's going to happen at the temple of the ancients?

>iscar

Faggot

>>1637384
I posted
>>1637336
I just want to point out that I don't disagree with you. I have no first hand experience with the original script. These days people complain about the priority by companies of graphics over story. The fact of the matter is that this was no different in '96. FFVII was considered an enormous graphical advancement at the time, and I personally believe that the idea was to make a simple story that could essentially be read within 4-5 pages seem as edgy and convoluted as possible. It wasn't done with much finesse.

>>1637376
>the threats of genital mutilation.
This was probably the tamest thing you listed there. Threatening to stomp/slice off someone's nads is such a generic taunt that I wouldn't take it at face value. It's like how someone says they're going to kick someone's ass but an ass is never actually ever kicked.

Like, when you hear someone say, "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck!", do you think they're really going to do so?

>>1637376
Cloud got raped also by men
That's the worst

>>1637376
FFVII IS A DARK AND EDGY GAME

>Meanwhile, Hojo is chilling with his bitches in Costa de la Sol

>>1637438
Nice fedora faggot. It's called comedic relief. You are the biggest faggot I've encountered since the season spring has started if you actually believe, as implied through your sarcastic expression, that FFVII is just some tame story ala FFVIIi

If trips Iscar is better than Cait Sith

>>1637445
>If trips Iscar is better than Cait Sith
>If trips Iscar
>If trips

What in the fuck are you even trying to say here???

>>1637450
Please someone explain this! My brain is about to explode!!!

>>1637450
'if the three final digits of my post are the same number, then Iscar is better than Cait Sith'.

Welcome to 4chan, by the way.

>>1637329

>>1637376
FF7 is a FANTASY adventure. It has elements that are dark and disturbing, elements that are fun and light-hearted, and everything in between. Every classic Final Fantasy game has had comic relief, silly characters and zany antics to offset the more serious elements. Sakaguchi understood that colour and joy was important to any RPG inspired by the imagination, even if the plot was "dark" in nature. This is why his FF games were always the best and why the series went to shit immediately after he left.

>>1637270
>Not knowing German

>>1637164
What German /vr/ translations are better than their original?

>>1637231

>>1636432
>Completing a WRPG without getting 25 in all stats
>Playing dluids, which suck dick.

Do people rearry do this?

>>1637703
From what I found in the LA topic apparently Link's Awakening was much more accurate in German than English.

>>1636432
>98 in ragnarok

Fuck you OP, that's going to bug the shit out of me now.

>>1637708
How the hell do you get 25 in all stats in baldurs gate.

>>1637864

I did it once, but only via basically cheating. I kept finding those stat raising tomes, and then re-exporting my characters, starting over, and finding the tomes again.....

>>1637164
Are you referring to this one? http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=17004.0

I was planning on replaying it soon.

>>1637204

>>1636432
>>Ragnarok :98

le pleb

>>1637864
>playing an rpg only once through

...

>>1637864
>>1637896
>playing through an rpg any number of times countable on one hand!

>>1637909
>playing Chrono Trigger

Do people really do this?

>>1637708
>>1637896
>playing through an rpg without getting all existing spells for every character

>>1637749
>>1637895
>98 ragnarock
>not 100 ragnarock and 100 ragnaroll

Low level runs are conceptually palatable because they mean a challenge which can't be negated by mere level grinding, which is the case for shit like initial equipment runs or no magic or all magic or solo character or whatever. I don't think I would have the tenacity for it though.
There's this bit in EarthBound where if you call your dad, he'll tell you how much exp you need to get the next level. But if you reach the level cap, he'll say something like "Oh, you can't level up anymore. That's just fine, but..." I guess there's a few ways to interpret the line, but I like to think of it as Itoi quietly shaking his head because if you managed to pass level 80 or so, you've put entirely too much work into his silly little world and have likely forgotten to have fun with it.

>>1637945
I beat Earthbound recently with Ness above level 90. What is the level cap, 99?

>>1637945
>you've put entirely too much work into his silly little world and have likely forgotten to have fun with it.

Some people find grinding fun. And let's leave it at that without folks trying to argue over something that is oh-so-very subjective.

>>1637681
>FF7 is a FANTASY adventure. It has elements that are dark and disturbing, elements that are fun and light-hearted, and everything in between.
thank you
every time some dim shit blathers on about 7 or 5 or 9 or whatever being a "lighthearted adventure" I pray for my own death

>>1637969
5 pretty much is a lighthearted adventure, though.

>>1637969
5 IS more lighthearted than basically every other plot-driven installment, that's pretty much a fact. It's brimming with jokes, puns and shonen anime moments. That however doesn't mean that it didn't have its serious moments and drama, is a joke game and doesn't have a good story

>>1637953
The cap is 99. It's been years since I played it so 80 might not be the level you're likely to end the game at. I dunno. I'm pretty sure Ness usually winds up like 10 or 15 levels higher than everyone else though.

>>1636436
tis the only way to play a jrpg

>>1636751
>X-summon knights of round
>Supernova immediately after

>>1637443
>Meanwhile, Cloud has to dress up to look pretty

>Forget I have the Cloud to Butt extension still on

>Butt got raped also by men
>That's the worst
>Meanwhile, Butt has to dress up to look pretty

haha

>>1637940
It doesn't work that way! You need:
-255 ragnarok
-255 revelation
-255 nuclear winter
-255 lucifer's hammer

or at least 127 of each

>>1636450
>The fan translated German version is the way to go (if you can read German)

Is it just me, or does that German seem a bit funky?

>>1639768

Berlin dialect.

>>1637376

What's that? Sorry, I couldn't here you with all this wind and AWESOME in my ears. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a parade march to attend to, and sabotage.

>>1637376

What's that? Sorry, I couldn't hear you with all this wind and AWESOME in my ears. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a parade march to attend to, and sabotage.

>>1637945
>>1637954
Madou Monogatari games nearly all have a hidden final level that has a much higher than usual required EXP. It also unlocks desperation attacks for normal use (at least in the Saturn game, but I believe it does something similar in the others too).

In the Saturn game, every character has a set of spells they learn based on their level, and the next highest spell is available only when you fill up your SP meter in fights. Then you can use one spell at 2x power, including the next highest level one which you can't even cast yet.
Normally, everyones ultimate spell is only useable if you maxed your SP meter, but at lvl 99 you unlock your ultimate spell, and can use it regularly (mana points permitting).

So basically it's like if Final Fantasy 7 made Limit Breaks available as a regular command once you hit the level cap.
Though, SP meter can still be maxed for a 2x powerful magic attack.

Also in that game SP meter charges different per character, some of them have it charged as they get hit (FF7 style), but some charge as they DEAL damage, or get healed, etc.

And the final character you use in the last dungeon has an adventure-map-only special move (every character has one), that fully charges your SP meter at the cost of some mana.

>>1639782
Is it always written that way, or is just supposed to be read as if in that dialect? (ie "ya'll seen mah hat?")

>>1639748
>98 degrees
>fever
What idiot made this image?

>>1640018
I think it was some kid from Youngstown, a New Kid on the Block, who was a Back Street Boy.

>>1640018
>not making 99 images from every advice dog type template that interests you

>>1637204
>forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.msg209230#msg209230

that site is full of cancer, 90% of mods posted there are utter shit made by faggot autists and Advent Children shits

>>1637696
mfw know 3 languages and 3 different kinds of sign language
>mute

>>1636432
Yes, people who aren't autistic really do this.