/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Have you ever wanted to play as a dog in Doom? No? Well, whatever, here's DogDoom! https://copy.com/o4kYFNMdcwoFqYO6

-Guess who received a STABLE update? OBLIGE, motherfucker! Now it's in version number 6, and things surely have improved; go check it here! http://oblige.sourceforge.net/i_download.html

-On top of that, The Space Pirate also got an update! Now features a mugface and the best code on the market! Go check the latest version here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing Also be sure to check this nifty tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFF8LCZw5Y

-John Romero was present at GDC and a kind anon set him up a LAN in Zandronum (yes, you read that right). Here are the demos https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88787354/MADE%20at%20GDC%20Zandronum%20demos.zip and these are some of the matches! http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE

-Romero was also present at the NYU Game Center to discuss, along with Rand Miller (MYST) about their games, their legacies, and the current status of game developing. You can rewatch said event here http://vimeo.com/92838909

-The past Awesome Games Done Quick featured Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and a Doom 2 race. To rewatch the Doom speedruns, go follow this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1

-HDoom has its fourth techdemo! happy now? http://static.best-ever.org/wads/m12-hdoom-techdemo4.pk3

-Help us test this new mod by Terminus: Metroid Dreadnought (http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847))

-Dakka by ijon tichy is also getting tons of updated. Get it here ijontichy.lostsig.com/wads/dakka-0.051.pk3

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy, reply to this post and mention it so everyone can see it

first

Would you play a game from the Doom franchise with no cyberdemon at all?

>>1630708
Maybe, if the rest of it was really really good.

>>1630570
the chain links should be ellipses instead of circles

>>1630560
I posted my new map for the 200 min megawad last thread.

>>1630702
I entered samsara_punchdrunksaws 1 and summoned a chainsaw, but it gave me a fletching instead of the spiked gauntlets. I'm using Zandronum, by the way.

>>1630769
he said samsara_punchdrunkuniques 1 and that the berserk was the gauntlets you silly person

>>1630769
>>1630806

Yeah, it's the berserk, not the chainsaw. Chainsaw is the Flechette. Berserk is Spiked Gauntlet.
samsara_punchdrunkuniques 1 toggles the berserks.

>>1630806
>>1630842
Thanks.

>want to play some doom
>load up doomseeker
>open a server
>error: you have been banned from bestever
>"well that's odd. i don't know why, haven't played doom since last year"
>go on irc
>hey can you unban me pls?
>sure
>go on, play some doom for about 10 minutes, everything fine
>server crashes
>assume its nothing and reconnect
>error: you have been banned from bestever
>go on to irc
>banned from bestever irc
>banned from zandronum irc
>look on bestever's banlist page and next to my ip is "rip and tear/ trolling" as the reason for my permanent ban
Anyone wanna explain to me just what the fuck that means?

>>1630886
do you have a little brother/sister/poodle who shares your internet connexion?

>>1630893
No, but I just moved recently.

>>1630886

Was this today?
What username were you using when you asked for an unban?

>>1630896
well that's weird, maybe try to PM an admin and ask him what's going on?
if you're not banned from the irc server (so, just the channels) you should still be able to reach people with a /notice or a /pm

>>1630886


RipandTear (Mibbit@c-24-62-87-252.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined
<RipandTear> so I got banned
<RipandTear> and I have no idea why
<RipandTear> anyone wanna clear that one up for me
<RipandTear> hello?
<Jenova> let me check
<Jenova> says you were banned for trolling
<Jenova> were you the dude who was changing names and trolling last night
<RipandTear> I'm not gonna say no, but I'm unsure how changing my name is bannable?
<RipandTear> if you could just clear that one up for me that'd be great
<Jenova> its not the fact that it was just changing names
<Popsoap> If you were impersonating someone, then it should be obvious
<Jenova> the person was changing names to other players so they couldnt votekick him
<Popsoap> Or that
<RipandTear> yeah that's pretty much all that was, then the guy called me a "faggot"
<RipandTear> so I felt like that was well reason to piss him off
<RipandTear> but ok
<Jenova> i probably would have called you a faggot too, faggot
<RipandTear> oh ok
<RipandTear> that's the kind of mods you have here
<Popsoap> Wait hold on
<Jenova> yes
<RipandTear> meh I'll just hop on my proxy then
<Jenova> have fun
<RipandTear> if you're gonna be an asshole about it
<Popsoap> What exactly were you doing before he called you a faggot?
<RipandTear> then fuck you guys
* RipandTear has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")

>>1630908
yeah it was like half an hour ago

>>1630886

Well going off this >>1630917

You sound like a real bunghole. I can see why they banned you.

>>1630886
>>1630896
>>1630918

If you connect using Mibbit, Zandronum and BestEver JUST banned that entire service, due to attacks from angry 12-year-olds happening, now that their favorite hack has been patched over.
Like, just a few minutes ago they banned it all.

Try connecting with another IRC service, like Hexchat or Doomseeker. If you can get in, then you should be fine.

>>1630917
Sounds like a jerk.

>>1630917
so in other words whoever was here last got b& and now it's my problem. alright, thanks for the help.

>>1630947
tell them you just moved in, ISPs do recycle IPs

>Download some wads to play through
>Load them up with SmoothAnimations
>Gonna play through the good old fashioned way
>No fancy gameplay mods
>Few maps in, get bored to death of the gameplay
>Realize soon after that it's really hard for me to get enjoyment out of vanilla gameplay
>Put on Brutal Doom SE and my enjoyment skyrockets
I don't know how I should feel.

>>1630989
You are too used to enemies being more aggressive.
Try playing with Fast Monsters.

>>1630993
I don't think it's so much that. I really don't play with Brutal Doom that often. It's that some of enemies are... Just kinda boring bullet sponges. Running circles around an enemy and unloading into them for a minute is kinda boring.

>>1631001

You want to be able to go through monsters quickly.

>>1631001
>Unloading into them for a minute
Switch guns?

H-Mod really needs a changelog.

>>1631008

HMod had a changelog in its release post.

>>1631004
Yeah something like that. I don't necessarily mean I want it to be easier, but in Brutal Doom, the tougher enemies seem to go down faster, but still offer a nice challenge to make up for that. The vanilla enemies are predictable, and kinda boring to fight for the most part.

>>1631020
>Tougher enemies seem to go down faster
That's because of the head hitbox.

You can kill a Baron in a single Super Shotgun blast or two rockets.

All the Brutal Doom weaponry is considerably stronger than it's vanilla counterparts.
Super Shotgun is 4x stronger at point blank.

>>1631001
Get stronger weapons
Play on UV
Play something hard like Plutonia 2.

On regards to vanilla monsters, I wish pinkies would go down after 2 shotgun blast consistently like in BD. It feels better imo.

>>1631031
You can edit that yourself by giving shotguns 8-10 pellets instead.

>>1631012
Gee wizz, thanks for the fucking link.

>>1631037
https://archive.foolz.us/vr/
You're fucking welcome.

>>1631031
>I wish pinkies would go down after 2 shotgun blast

But they do in vanilla. All you need to do is to aim right at the middle of their eyes so the pellets land entirely on them. Try shooting right when their second attack frame plays

If they don't, switch2pistol, it's not that hard

>>1631043
but vanilla weapons switch is slow as fuck and shells are plentiful
why the hell would you switch

>>1631043
Two shotgun blasts are barely able to ever kill them due to RNG.

Doesn't matter what frame you attack them on, the math says it's a rarity.

>>1631041
>https://archive.foolz.us/vr/
IM NOT SEARCHING THROUGH EVERY FUCKING POST YOU LAZY AUTISTIC FUCK

GIVE ME THE FUCK CHANGELOG OR I WILL SHITPOST THIS THREAD BACK TO THE STONEAGE

FUCKING CUNT RETARD DEV DOESNT EVEN KNOW HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE UPDATED

>>1631048
>the math says it's a rarity.

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames/lmps/tyson/weapons.html

>Killing a Demon/Specter in 2 shotgun shots
>1 in 3.2

Not Eric_, blox, ijon or marrub, but git gud

>>1631051

You coulda tried saying please and used some manners, fartknocker

>>1631051

>>1631058
WELCOME TO 4CHAN RETARD

>>1631047
>>1631047
>why the hell would you switch

To save ammo, of course. Try playing this WAD, for example

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/decay.zip

The author warns the player in the txt "to use ammo wisely" but in reality there's more than enough ammo to go on in both maps (even in pistol-start). If you actually run out of ammo during the second map you're beyond salvation.

>>1631053
1 in 3 isn't very common considering how many times you're dealing with them.

It's certainly smaller than 1:1, and Chainsaw/Chaingun will always kill them faster if Super Shotgun isn't available.

>>1631082
judas priest - tyrant

>>1631082
>what is "every single gameplay mod known to man", alex

>>1631082

what is The Space Pirate?

>>1631082
what is Project MSX?

H-DOOM CHANGELONG

NOW

COME ON WHAT ARE YOU GUYS FAGS OR SOMETHING

>>1631105
Yeah, we're all gay so we don't pay attention to H-DOOM. Maybe if there were some manly he-demons to get raped by we'd have the changelog for you.

>>1631109

>>1631105
Bro, found it don'tcha worry now.
+Removed all types of sex (Player must now go through 2 years in real life time to get married and then proceed to have sex in missionary) Remember. This is a Christian image board!
+Dressed all demons in nice, classy, unrevealing uniforms
+Removed all guns, replacing them with boxes of chocolate and roses
+All humour gone, fun wasn't in the Bible!
-Level 2 has a glitch next to the corner wall in the blue key room, fixed next update

>>1631105
Stop oppressing me straight scum

>>1631117
>>>/v/
>>>/v/
>>>/v/
>>>/v/

>>1631109
Im not going to stop until one of you stubborn manchildren gives me it. I couldn't find it in foolz either.

>>1631116
You actually took time out typing that instead of giving me the real thing? Fucking pathetic.

>>1631117
Niggers.

Incredible how childish people are, you insult them and they go out of their way to deny you what you want. Human nature is disgusting.

Had a friend help me recolor the ball again to match the gauntlet's color scheme and I made a quick weapon icon

what do you guys think?

>>1631121
it took me a singular minute to find it from this board to the archived post
https://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/username/stapler-san/
look for it yourself

>>1631130
Looks pretty good. Reminds me of the SMW sprite for some reason.

>>1630950
Bit late for that, considering he admitted he did it with
><Jenova> the person was changing names to other players so they couldnt votekick him
><RipandTear> yeah that's pretty much all that was, then the guy called me a "faggot"
><RipandTear> so I felt like that was well reason to piss him off

And the pissy attitude doesn't garner sympathy, either.

>>1631130
Looks nice.

>>1631096
one of the guys working on it is the same guy that did pol.wad so it might happen if we bug them enough

>>1631135

Holy shit you're right, I see it now

>>1631001
The only enemies in Brutal Doom that strike me as being bullet sponges are the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind and they deserve to be. Even Barons go down quickly if you use strong weapons.

Although
>playing Gotcha! in Brutal Doom
>sit down to watch the Cyberdemon vs Spider Mastermind fight
>mfw 30 seconds in and they're still going at it

>>1631143
Mastermind and Cyberdemon don't feel like bullet sponges though.

But maybe it's because rockets and plasma to the face helps.

The reason the Gotcha fight goes on for so long is because the Cyberdemon aims at the Mastermind body, which takes very little damage.

H DOOM

CHANGELOG

STOP BEING ASSHOLES

m12-hdoom_techdemo4.pk3 changelog:
* erased entire changelog to piss off one dude
* went back home
* had a beer
* got laid

>>1631158
I love that vid. Po-ju is great

>>1631043
>>I wish pinkies would go down after 2 shotgun blast consistently like in BD
>>consistently

>>1631158
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>1630989
I feel you, but you have to remember that this game has been out for 20 years, it's perfectly okay to feel like you're getting bored. I do all the time! Don't feel the need to play the game how you're expected to play it, play like you WANT to play it. If that method involves putting in Brutal Doom or whatever you're feeling up for, don't feel like you're doing it wrong. Mods exist for a reason.

>>1631096
>>1631140
I totally have plans for this, I'm serious! I have like a micro-Zen Dynamics or Action Doom 1 feel that I want to go for but it'll take some time and the mod needs to be more content complete before we really start that sorta thing.

>>1631181
Yeah you're right, I've been playing Vanilla for so long now I'm just incredibly bored of it. Not that I don't like playing it once in awhile, but lately I've been getting the most enjoyment from mods like BD or MSX, or what have you

>>1631189
Yeah, I agree with you. Doom is my favourite game of all time, but even I get bored of vanilla. But that's the beauty of Doom, all the mods and levels to play through, and then when you play a bunch of those, you want to play vanilla again, and by the time that happens, a whole bunch of new mods are out.
Doom is like a neveredning ride of fun and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1631082

Metroid: Dreadnaut.

I like Vanilla Doom a lot when it's focused more on smaller but challenging encounters.

I really don't enjoy vanilla Doom gameplay so much when it's just a wall of HP coming at you like in Slaughtermaps.

What's the funniest wad that you guys played through recently? Just finished up playing the /pol/ wad and got a few good yuks out of it.

>>1631196

That's a Zandronum mod, though.
I still emphatically agree.

>>1631201
Doom II Redux

>>1631082
What is Buttpain

>>1631201

Pirate doom, and the extreme weapons pack, also Lelweps

Okay, got the icon in and new sprites up. I think this one's done

>>1631221
Can we use that cool ass arm cannon in v0.9? Not a fan of the wand.

>>1631227

Not yet, but that's why I started on the arm cannon and then got both Mike and Sgt Shivers to help me make a rad as fuck replacement for the wand, now that I got the utility function done, now it's time to start working on new sprites for the sub-shots and to retool the cluster missile.

I kinda want a few more unique muzzleflashes for the arm cannon but shivers has already done so much for me.

also do you not like the wand cus of the sprites or the fact it doesn't fit Blaz's character? Cus the wand will be returning for my wizard dude

>>1631234
>now it's time to start working on new sprites for the sub-shots and to retool the cluster missile.
>even more delays

Why do you hate us?

>>1631158
>got laid
Was she qt~?

>>1631234
I'm curious. What gave you the idea to make this wad?

>>1631234
Not him but the wand is kind of dinky looking and it probably wouldn't look much more intimidating on a mage dude.
It would fit more on a wizard as long as he has a staff to choose from too. Staves are always cool.

And dual wielding staff and wand together of course

I'm having a small mapping problem. I'm not quite sure what length to put in a, say, 5-10 wad?

I've seen some simple, and some complex, but I guess I'm asking about capturing the feel of progression; not just in terms of ramping up the weapons/monsters, but making the player, themselves, feel as if they're moving through this scenario you've created... just as a small first map?

>>1631238

That's been on my to do list for awhile dude, right now the cluster missile is just a static explosion that explodes several times over. I'm gonna make it scatter little bomblets that carpet bomb an area.

Do you want a mod now or a mod done right? Waiting sucks but at least I'm keeping you guys posted, here's what I got left:

>make some cool wooshy clangy sounds for the arm cannon transformation (this one is easy)
>Get more physical looking sprites for Blaz's spells
>Create some help pages
>get a new font
>Get player sprites for Blaz

I don't like keeping people waiting but I wanna make this shit good.

>>1631246

Honestly the idea struck me a few months ago, and originally it was just a 4 weapon mod where the first two weapons would generate ammo for the other, stronger weapons. Then someone said they wanted more weapon options, so I added subweapons and decided to go full Capcom and then it kinda just blew up into what it is now. You can thank Scroton for the transformation idea. Actually you can thank him for a lot of shit involving GMOTA seeing as he's answered a lot of my dumb questions.

>>1631247

Hm, well I could always nix the transformation stuff and just give him the spike staff with a variety of spells to do harm. Samson is a ways off so I got time to mull it over.

>>1631251
Nah, transforming is fine.

My issue is more with the concept of wands itself.
Wands are just made to be dinky.

>>1631251
Interesting! How far do you intend to go with this mod?

>>1631234
Not him but it looks and feels puny, even if it's pretty damaging.

>>1631257

after v1.0, I wanna add more playable characters, another 2 for sure, and a scoring system. if I can I want to squeeze getting points in v1.0

After that, anything I add will be a result of an idea striking me and I go "I WANT THAT SHIT IN GMOTA" or if someone else says "Hey here's this fucking cool thing, you should put it in your mod, you dilweed."

>>1631260

well, like I said, Samson is a way's off, I could always look into getting a new magic weapon for him later.

>>1631201
/pol/.wad is really fun, while /g/.wad is really depressing but still had some laughs at it.

>>1631221
>>1630726

>close tityAsh

>>1631408

God damn it I was hoping you'd ignore that. I'm not good with perspective fuckery, and I feel if I just expand the sprite out it'd look like shit.

Didn't see new thread post...

>>1630095
>>1631303 (You)
All right. Nice. Only thing I didn't like was the stairway was a little steep. Other than that: Ace.

>>1630708
How would I know there was no cyberdemon if I hadn't played it?

>>1631004
Not him. I would like a mod that made enemies more aggressive, and with better AI/movement. Like imps could pull a doom 3 and climb up walls, and zombiemen might charge and pistol whip you if you're too close. Maybe pink demons could actually chase you when they charge you, like the way L4D enemies charge you... carrying weight on their turns and with better leading...

That's what I want from Doom 4. Doom, but with more aggressive/better AI (actually good AI, not scripted shit). That. Modding ability. Decent move speed. Varying level tone. Some scary, some slaughter, some gimmicks...

>>1630132
>Screw these cacos.
wow, okay, you're very good. you must be a professional from the demos forum. i (>>1629626 >>1629629 >>1629630) expressely discounted the possibility of leaving the cacos alive because they ate me when i was trying to get back up the lift. i would try to improve my run but i would never get it down to 1:06, that's amazing.

Still /r/ing SMASH AND BASH ft. Ness&Jeff, if anyone would be so kind

>>1631621
It looked like he was playing keyboard to me too. But I could be mistaken.

>>1631249
Best advice ever here: Switch it up.

The first couple maps should get increasingly large and complex as they go. For the first map, don't use any keys or only use one. For the second, only use two. For the third, use all three, but make one of them optional. (Take this as you see fit--either make one area optional and hide the key somewhere, or make it a choose-your-path style thing where the red or blue key will both take you to the same area but through different paths), and go all-out and require all keys for the next one, with some cool non-linear progression thrown in for good measure.

But then--stop! This is where you dial it back and give the player a breather. A simpler map that's concentrating on blowing enemies apart in a smaller environment, or a "gimmicky" map would work great. By "gimmicky," I mean a map with a simplistic idea or goal, like Dead Simple, or an idea for map I've always wanted to make called Wifebeater. (It's a map entirely of Pinkies where you spawn on top of a Berserk pack, and there's pretty much nothing else.) This lets the player take a breather (so to speak) and relax a bit on the exploratory and complexity side.

IMO if you're doing anything bigger than 4 levels you should ALWAYS have a secret level. Secret levels are cool, and it's a great excuse to throw a wrench into things and make it harder on purpose.

Also: Watch how you dole out the weapons and ammo. IMO you shouldn't even give the player the shotgun on the first level and shouldn't have any sergeants (unless you're playing on UV--make good use of them difficulty settings, kids!). You also do not have to strictly design your levels linearly--i.e. you don't have to build MAP01 first, you can build it second or third or even last. MAP04 does not need to have been created after MAP03 but before MAP05. If you're having a problem envisioning how you should progress next, skip a few steps ahead. Make your "last" level first, and then go backwards from there.

>>1630628
> and that the linedef tags and sector tags match up
You don't need to tag door sectors or linedefs if you're just making the door openable regularly; only if they're opening via switch or walkovers. Yes, seriously.

As for remembering to do that...DB2 has "New Tag" and "Use Unused" buttons right next to them. Create new, and then go do the sector that is the door and hit "Use Unused" or whatever it says.

Oh and you're constructing them fucking stupid. Draw the inset wall piece first, then copy and paste that twice (connecting them each time) so you have one sector that's connecting to your room, the door, and then another sector that's instantly the start of your next room. Piece of cake.

>>1631621

oh man I am impressed from these demos, makes me feel all tingly inside seeing this rushed map of mine get speed runned

I never expected the rocket launcher jump could have that much reach.

http://pastebin.com/0a36jzAq

as of now, all the 200 minutes submissions i have. i count 13.

>>1631668
>IMO you shouldn't even give the player the shotgun on the first level
But pistol feels like shit.

>>1631773
Chainsaw or berserk are what I use. Or maybe the RL with no spare ammo so the player has to group the monsters.

>>1631774
>Chainsaw or berserk are what I use.
Acceptable.
>the RL with no spare ammo so the player has to group the monsters
That sounds fun!

I remember one map where you had to use pistol for relatively long time - the first map of Going Down; it was okay. Recently I downloaded some wad that expected my to kill lots of imps with a pistol, and it was just so unfun.

Where did "Stronghold: On the Edge of Chaos" get all of it's skyboxes?

Are they in a resource somewhere?

Ok, I'm only on the second level...


but Pirate Doom is the best Doom wad I've ever fucking seen. Period. The gameplay, the new artwork, the new effects, the new weapons, the fucking hilarious humor, and the nostalgia: holy christ.

>>1631771
Same here. Thanks for keeping track. I just have a folder and a txt file of notes.

>>1631781
Well I just opened up the Pk3 and found them on my own, odd as I was expecting more.

It's a longshot but is anybody familiar with Marathon Rubicon? I'd love to see where it got it's skyboxes from, one of them was fucking great.

next crappy 200min wad webm, this time for Sneek.wad (>>1625094 https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1621109/#1625094)) in 1:33

i was dubious about this at first because the whole map seems based on the partial invisibility blocks monster wakeup mechanic from zdoom, but more importantly the demons/mancubus crowd around the base of the lifts and block you, but i realised i could grab the plasma, and go back up to clear them out first time around. the barons are still awkward but fortunately there are just few enough for 300 plasma cells to do the job. the preceeding lift is slow, and has a missing texture at the top of it.

>>1631813
>crappy 200min wad webm
uh, ahem, just to clarify, i mean the webm is crappy not the wad! oops.

>>1631813
The only problem I see with that map is the misplaced SPARTAN2 textures where he forgot to change them from default.

>>1631883
linedef 60, back side, upper texture, you only happen to see it if you turn round and look back at the lift when you get the berserk box

I need some .wads to play to get the most out of MSX

>>1631795
It's fucking great isn't it?
And there's more to come I think.

What kind of stuff would you expect to see in a level set in a space station?

I got
>computers
>corridors
>beeping noises
>looks outside

Don't get toooo specific though.

>>1631668

>IMO you shouldn't even give the player the shotgun on the first level and shouldn't have any sergeants (unless you're playing on UV--make good use of them difficulty settings, kids!)

That entirely depends. If your first level is a Par 30 introductory snapshot, like Hangar and Entryway, then fine. But anything longer than that, and the shotgun MUST be available in a secret, at the very least.

Mainly it's essential to give the shotgun early because otherwise you're not going to be able to have any enemy variety- Imps, former humans and pinkys are like a holy trinity of pressure, projectile avoidance and target practice, but in a level where you can only sensibly use the two weakest enemies, shit gets boring very fast.

See: Knee Deep In Zdoom. The first level, something that should be 2 minutes of headbanging to dat music, becomes 15+ minutes of BLAM, BLAM, BLAM, BLAM, BLAM. That just ain't Doom.

>>1631974
>Knee Deep In Zdoom. The first level

Not who you're talking to, I thought you got a decent gun pretty early in that level?

>>1631974
see also dvii which intentionally replaced its pistol with something faster

>>1631973
Rewatch Alien.

>>1631973
just a finished version of adessa.wad

>>1631980

The shotgun is there as a secret, but you are still required to kill something like two dozen imps to get to it. It's the gameplay equivalent of a song that opens with 32 bars of the same 3 note riff, it's tedious.

>>1631974
>See: Knee Deep In Zdoom. The first level, something that should be 2 minutes of headbanging to dat music, becomes 15+ minutes of BLAM, BLAM, BLAM, BLAM, BLAM.

Z1M1 was a HUGE turnoff for me. Trying to kill the Shadows with just the pistol is just not fun. I could deal with shooting at the cramped imps and zombiemen but...just no

And while we're at it...

>>1631973

>beeping noises

Do yourself and your map a favor, and do not pick any sound effect from R667, because it seems that there's no other god damned sound effects other than the ones that have been used in KDIZD. One of these days that sparking sound is going to drive me nuts

Does anyone have the Hokuto no Doom wad? It disappeared from everywhere.

>>1631995

huh

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=themes/hokuto.zip

>>1631987
Ah right, I get you now.
You're right on the pistol though - that thing is fucking tedious as hell. One thing everybody agrees that Brutal got right was to replace it with the rifle.

I don't mind that KDIZDs first level was really long though, I'm not looking to fire through it as fast as I did E1M1 all those years ago.

>>1631994
>Do yourself and your map a favor, and do not pick any sound effect from R667

R667 has some kickass resources (especially textures) but yeah you're probably right.
Besides, we've got everything on Freesound.org and there's like.....a gajillion sounds there.

>>1631997
Thanks, it was mostly uploaded on Megaupload so I didn't even search there. I feel like an idiot

>>1632001
I think that Burl Tumd got it better by having a pistol that could fire as quick as you could shoot.

>>1632034
Not a bad idea either, though I imagine it's entirely outclassed by the chaingun.

>>1631082
What is Cyberrunner

>>1632035
Its a tradeoff between a superfast fire rate or ammo conservation.

>>1631621
The sole purpose of killing pinkies near magical lift is to clear area so I don't kill myself with rockets off random bulldemon getting in my face. Cacodemons are infinitelly tall, so is rocket's splash damage. Original idea was to kill one-two cacos blocking the elevator with wonderful engine quirk and block it out myself because fat cacos don't fit in the elevator when player stands in the same position shown in demo. Actually, I got very lucky with their position. RJ was easy because target platform is low enough (judging by eye though).
>>1631749
Intented route is horrible. Player has to crawl through passageway or he'll get stuck with platforms being too low to make it to exit.

>>1631032

I know this conversation is over but it's surprising how much a difference in power adding 1 extra pellet and an accuracy tweak to the shotgun can have

>>1631234
>fact it doesn't fit Blaz's character
This. Running around with a bad-ass sword cutting demons in half is awesome, but then when you switch to the wand, it feels out of character. It's relatively boring (IMO) when compared to the sword, so I never use it, but the gauntlet looks really fun so I'm gonna use the gauntlet way more.
The sprite itself is fine, it'd look really good on the mage, just it doesn't suit Blaz IMO

>>1632047
>>1631234

I'm all about the awesome dual-wielding wand+staff idea. You could get a lot of mileage and variety out of a weapon like that, and it's one way to make the mage feel as badass as the swordsman.

>>1631883
I think I've fixed it since. took 10 seconds

>>1631883
>>1631907
He also didn't do any DOORTRAKs.

Am I the only one who designed his map by doing each individual room and fleshing them out more or less sequentially? I guess I was more worried about making my map look good since I have a firm grasp on gameplay concepts.

doom speedrun at the srgmarathon twitch channel if anyone's interested

>>1632142

>>1632041

the intended route was where I ran out of time
:C

>>1632041
that's great, thanks for the explanation.
>cacos don't fit in the elevator when player stands in the same position shown in demo
i thought this would be thwarted by the same engine property you just exploited - i.e. that caco bites, like rocket splashes, also ignore height. but writing this now i'm not sure and will have to go check.

So I just finished Steam version of The Ultimate Doom for the first time in my life, I never actually played through the third episode, not to mention 4th but it was a blast. What's the best Doom source port there? I don't need anything fancy like Brutal Doom, just regular stuff.

>>1632169
Whoever gets there first blocks the others. I'd imagine it was just lucky AI behavior that got the caco not blocking the elevator at that exact moment.

>>1632182
Depends on what you want. ZDoom will generally look better but can change certain behaviours--although there are options to fix that. PRBoom is the best Boom-compatible sourceport right now that doesn't have major feature changes.

Avoid bullshit like Doomsday and Eternity, they suck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh1-4oZVxoo

This is a "Lore in a minute" video for Gabe Newell.

Didn't know DOOM actually had that much of an influence on him.

>>1632169
>>1632185
i think the ones still at the top don't attack because, when you are hugging the back wall of the lift, their line of sight to you is blocked by the floor.

>>1632202

So PRBoom if you want most true to the core experience?

>>1632202
>Avoid bullshit like Doomsday and Eternity, they suck
what makes you say that? i think eternity is pretty good, it has freelook and jumping and other advanced features, but also remains vanilla-compatible, unlike certain other engines you mentioned. also it respects my freedoms by not forcing use of a magic non-free binary blob (fmod).

>>1632229
No, Chocolate Doom if you want most true to the core experience.

>>1632209

>could I suck gabens cock any harder

Don't think ya could.

>>1632235
How is this dick sucking?
Shitposting is against the rules.

>>1632202

>Doomsday

Ugh, fuck.

I actually redescovered Doom because of this engine, back in 2004 or so, after a PCGamer issue featured it. Dat dynamic lighting etc :3

However, I tried using it again a while ago, and I have to say... Fuck me, what the hell is that shit. Plays at about half the speed Doom should, the mouse has about half a fucking second of delay, the sound is terrible, it's like they couldn't do anything more wrong.

>>1632240

Meant the video.

>>1632182
GZDoom for singeleplayer.
Zandronum for multiplayer.

Others have other preferences but those are mine.

>not that I actually play multiplayer

>>1632245
Oh right.... yeah it's kinda dicksucky.

>>1631987
Shotty isn't in a secret I think.

>>1632232
>>1632229
Well, yeah, if you want to just play the original levels over and over again, with a resolution that never exceeds 320x200.

If you want to play any major mapset made in the last decade and a half (or more) then you're going to need some kind of Boom-compatible port.

>>1632202
>PRBoom is the best Boom-compatible sourceport right now that doesn't have major feature changes.
What about PrBoom+?
>>1632182
GZDoom for SP, Zandronum for MP.
GZDoom has support for most mods, can be made to look oldschool with just a console command, and comes with mods for dynamic lights and brightmaps if you want to use them.

>>1632269
>What about PrBoom+?
these days its very rare that when someone says prboom they actually mean prboom not prboom+

i always assume they mean prboom+ unless the speaker is someone i know knows what they're talking about ;-)

Is it even possible to kill those fuckhueg spiders?

>>1632331
You've got a BFG, man. Just run right up to the fucker and take a shot at point-blank.

>>1632331
It is possible actually.
You just have to master the art of circlestrafing and swingshots.

>>1632335
Good luck with that, motherfucker is OP as fuck. He just fires his lazors at 666 lazers/s and I am toasted.

>>1632338
Swingshots are bullshit; they work but not for the reasons you think they do

>>1632338
I remember encountering something similar earlier, that shit ate a lot of my ammunition and I just got bored anyways and quit spoonfeeding him bullets.

>>1632345
What's swingshots?

>>1632331
Just stand back where you can hit him but he cant hit you and lay into his ugly ass brain with your plasma rifle. I just played that level on BD and it didnt take too terribly long

sup

early early early early early early in progress

>>1632416
>demonic names
Veni

>>1632347
Basically it's a "technique" which involves swinging around when you use SSG blasts; it was developed mostly in deathmatch. It turns out all it does is change the angle of your shots which messes with the spread and supposedly makes you do more damage because the pellets don't spread the same way they normally would if you just shot them straight on.

>>1632416
So they won't be hostile on-sight?

>>1632439
It depends on the actor used - so you can have VN-talkable NPCs in addition to regular enemies.

Obviously, we need to fix the image offsets and make the interface graphics + font, but the code's there.

>>1632416
this is going to be hilarious

>>1632417
that's latin for "i came", you pervert.

i love that there are /doom/ denizens who are classically-educated.

>>1632458
veni, vidi, veni

>>1632419
i've never really understood how that's meant to work. the weapon's code doesn't suggest that spinning round while firing should affect the buckshot pattern.

>>1632416
This is the best thing ever

After playing Zen Dynamics (not entirely, I'm at the final boss right now) I can easily say that it's one of my favorite wads so far.

>>1632416
Fantastic. Onwards to making the glorious demon sex simulator that the furries stopped CoC from becoming.

>>1632471
It DOESN'T. The technique produces exactly zero difference in spread. What it DOES do is make it more likely you'll catch the opponent at an angle, and due to how hitboxes work in DOOM that means you'll have a larger area for your shot to hit.

>>1630708
Yes. The original Doom only has two cyberdemons in it, and one of them is a boss. Overusing cyberdemons is a common newbie mistake, and unless it's a gimmick wad like Cyberdreams, I'd rather have no cybers than too many.

>>1632542
/v/ pls go

>>1632551
The way Doom 3 used Cyberdemon was downright appaling.

>>1632542

You just know someones going to claim this is furry though.

>>1632564

People have already claimed this is furry.

>>1632416

From the very moment I read "no one has done it before" not too long ago, I almost knew it was going to be a VN, and also at the same time I just KNEW the one person that was going to have a stroke after discovering it

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/text/furry%20dating%20sim/

This dude

Back2topic, I wish you all the best of luck, I know you guys can pull it off

>>1632246
i want to rip and tear her obliques
should be a reference model for the imp in hmod

>>1632416
>

Is there a list of DoomRL Arsenal assemblies anywhere? Some of the stuff from the DoomRL wiki doesn't work and I guess there are some that aren't on there like the mother-in-law.

>>1632671
Yep, sure is. Just look at the source.

>>1632416
damn.

>Original music
>Original main menu
>PS1/Jaguar level layouts
>PS1 lighting
>PS1 enemy placements
>PS1 balancing (eg. armor/life shards = 2)
>Original level layouts
>no saving in level, only between (ps1 style)

So how do I do this? I guess you edit the PS1 Doom TC and use that as a base.

>>1632782

Also:
>original level order

I have:
Back to Saturn X
Cold as Hell
Deus Vult 1 and 2
Hellbound
Hell Revealed 1 and 2
Knee Deep in ZDoom
Memento Mori 1 and 2
Pirate Doom
Scythe 1 and 2
Stardate
Swim with the whales
UAC ultra
and Unloved.

Which one should I play?

>>1632792

all of them; leave KDIZD in last

>>1632795
I meant which one should I play first.

>>1632416
Wait, wait, wait.
What's going on here?

>People with text chat binds in Zandronum

How do I run the iwads like brutal doom? just placing them in the zdoom folder doesn't work

>>1632809

Drag and drop method. This is the lazy way.

The proper way is to add to the auto-load in the zdoom.ini file.

>>1632808
Don't even try the Quake games, then. Seriously, that shit's everywhere in these kinds of multiplayer.

>>1632813
>not binding "sit down, nerd" to M1 so you can say it every time you railgun someone

>>1632782
>>1632785
PSX Doom TC maybe?
Use autosaves only for your saves, or even just save at the very start of a level?

>>1632809
>iwad
>brutal doom

Anyway, do yourself a favour and go get Zdoom Launcher or use the single player features of IDE or Doomseeker. If you're gonna be playing a bunch of mods and maps, maybe saving along the way, it'll save you a ton of sorting/dragging/dropping.

>>1632812
>zdoom.ini
...and where it is?

>>1632830
Boot GZDoom up. If one doesn't exist, it should make one in that folder.

Wait a second

>>1632830

>FKER_GZDoom

How do you even have a /vr/ mod (which is a pk7) in your Doom folder and you ask about loading Brutal Doom (pk3) with X map? Knowing that mods could also be PK7s inherently correlates with the fact that someone knows how to load maps + mods at the same time

>>1632808
>have hi and gg as a bind
is there something wrong with that?

>>1632809
Alternatively, you could download IDE and use the singleplayer tab to setup wad. pic related

>>1632843
As long as you don't make it obvious that you have them as binds, then it's fine.

>>1632803
In the process of implementing a VN system for HDoom (and levels are being made with it in mind)

>>1632857
So I can really play as Doomguy in High School?

>>1632850
I don't see why it's wrong to even have them as binds in the first place, sure it's lazy not typing it out and all but hey, it's convenient to just hit the button and have a binded key do the little work for me, as long as it's not some "turn 180 shot rocket behind me and turn instantly back where I was just going" yes there are some faggots out there that actually had that bind and they were tournyfags

>>1632868
It's useful for communication. I like to say "yes" or "no" without having demons/other players destroying my asshole.

>>1632865
Well, that's certainly a thought. Gonna have to ask Mystical for school clothing variants of the demon-grills.

>>1632890
we already have revenant

>>1632672

As in use a wad editor and look at the code? I have no idea where to start, but when I get off work I'll try to figure that out and make a pastebin for spoonfeeding purposes.

>>1632416
>touch fluffy legs
>Player was splayed by a Hellknight

>>1631973

Maintenance machinery/equipment
Exercise rooms
Engines for vectoring, maneuvering, or what have you/engine rooms
Computer mainframes or data centers
Stasis tubes
Docks and bays
Vehicles for outside maintenance
Life support rooms (oxygen supply, plants, etc.)
Medical bay
Quarters or bunks
Entertainment areas (see exercise areas)
Dining areas

>>1631973
>big computer
>lost UAC machine
>ridiculous amount of crates
>some demon gateway

>>1631973
See those rooms where you have to wait like 30 seconds to inside for depressurization or whatever ? Add something so you enter through that and as soon as you open the door a lot of ennemies appear, that's already a pretty nice intro.

Anyway, add the generic vending machines and an obscenely high amount of crates, maybe security robots or whatever, 6953565 916

So I got a shitton of wads on my backlog as you can see in >>1632792
Gimme some good gameplay mods to play them through please!

Guys...

>>1632963
You'll be fine, man up.

Are there any good wads that remix doom's music?

>>1632960

dunno if you've already decided, but play Deus Vult 2

i completed it vanilla and it was fantastic, just make sure you choose to go to hell in the last level...

...it lets you play Deus Vult 1 as one huge super level

>>1632963
>Infinite napalm rockets and lava armor
>Probably decked out with other good marine shit
They never stood a chance.

>>1633001
I actually am in "Hell". I stopped playing around that time, I still got the save though. Played through it with Accessories to Murder.

Which monster would you eradicate from existence?

>>1633074
pain elementals
they do not contribute anything to the enemy roster, they're just annoying assholes

>>1633074
None of them.

Doom doesn't work anymore if you remove any of those monsters.

>>1633082
Pain Elementals force you to play at a pace that isn't your own

>>1633074

SS Nazi

Just to be drowned by the tears from DeHackEdfags

>>1633087
;_;

>>1633074

Spectres and Hell Knights. Boring and lazy recycling of enemies, new ones with new gimmicks should take their place.

>>1633124
I disagree. Spectres could maybe be resprited or something, but they do have a place. Hell Knights do too, they added them because Barons had a lot of HP but weren't really dangerous.

>>1633135
>Spectres could maybe be resprited or something

Make them like cockroaches, fast as fuck

>>1633140
-fast

I just finished up Vrack and Equinox. Are there any other really good super-sci-fi-esque levelsets out there?

I don't mean like "oh any techbase is pretty much sci-fi", I mean like out in space and shit.

>>1633158
Lunatic?

>>1633158
My dads old circa 1996 wad has a space ship level. And a giant walker mech, though it doesn't move. Just looks neat. Or did for the time anyway. Tons of great mappers these days. Older wads tend not to hold up.

Hey /doom/, I just "finished" working on a map and I thought I'd drop it off here in case anyone wants to playtest it for me while I go to bed :3

Nothing amazing, and it's meant to be map 01 of a mini-episode I'm planning, so I'd like input on how the difficulty balance feels for a starting map. For best results, use ZDoom, because I haven't tested it in much (anything) else.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/zsuem4mlm9dwce5/somanyimps.wad

Night /doom/, happy blastan.

>>1633140
>>1633150

Demonicron has that

https://www.dropbox.com/s/btv79ktnw2x40if/Demonicron_zdoom_WIP_0.3.1__NHF.wad

>>1633182
yeah but it sucks

>>1633192

how?

I wonder what could be done to make pinkies a more threatening enemy? Other than swarming you, they really have no chance against you, especially if you have a chainsaw or SSG.

>>1633218
With pinkies, like all low rank demons, it's PLACEMENT PLACEMENT PLACEMENT.
A pinky from the front? Who cares.
Two pinkies from behind blocking your only cover while an arachnotron opens fire from in front? Now THAT's a threat.

>>1633173

First things first, what's the map format?

Not bad for a first map, I could sense some staged kills via barrels. Good use of sector lightning. Yellow key trap was a liiitle bit weird and could've been better with other kind of enemies in mind. Not so many imps like the WAD title says.

>>1633224
What weapons you have can also impact their difficulty.

SSG can take them down pretty fast or at the least clear a path for you to get out. However pinkies are great when your trying to use the rocket launcher and one decides to run right in front of ya like a fly to a bugzapper

>>1633218
What >>1633224 said. Many Doom enemies in fact pose zero threat if enemy placement is poor.

>>1633218
The chainsaw is actually a terrible choice unless you can keep them all on one side.

Monster placement is everything though and the only way they are really dangerous is if you are busy with another monster.

Their bite range is what ruins it really, they exist as a moving wall and not much more.

Mastermind WIP latex model that someone posted on Tumblr. Literally have no idea of the original source, I would kill to know.

>>1633269
Honestly I think if they could bite while running, they'd be way more terrifying. I was thinking of making my pinky-type enemies try to grab you while running at you.

>>1633163
Wish I had a dad that Doomed with me.

>>1633271
>Literally have no idea

I'm sorry to hear that, anon.

>>1633192
>>1633193

AH, SO THAT'S WHY! THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW, BRO!

>>1633124

I like spectres. In ps1 doom, and others they are really freaking hard to see and really surprize you.

>>1633416
It completely depends on how the mapper uses them. I've seen spectres that I could see coming a mile away because of the lighting and surrounding textures, and there's been times I was 2spooked when they seemed to come out of nowhere and get a bite in on me.

>>1633437
>I've seen spectres that I could see coming a mile away because of the lighting and surrounding textures,

You playing default doom in a source port? Yeah, they are easy to spot. There's modified spectres in various things that are like real god damn ghosts. Fucking cant' see them. I've been trapped so many times by them in Doom psx.

>>1632548
oh that's all it is? i thought there was something complicated going on.

but it's great to finally understand this, thank you so much!

Not sure how well this idea I'm stealing from Painkiller works in Doom, so sticking it here for feedback.

A new CVar is added, dakka_startmode, which controls what happens on first spawn. By default, it's 0. The modes are:
* -1: Nothing happens.
* 0: Your health gets reset to 100 and your armor to 0. You keep weapons, and your ammo is set based on how much ammo was in this map or previous maps, with fairly low caps on all of these. The amount of ammo you get on start only goes up, never down, but you can't get ammo for weapons you don't have.
* 1: Pistol start.
* 2: Start with every non-BFG weapon, no backpack, and max ammo.
* 3: Start with every weapon, backpack, and max ammo.

Also has that minigun/flamethrower thing. It's pretty sweet.

http://ijontichy.lostsig.com/wads/dakka-0.06alpha2-startmodes.pk3

>>1632808
text chat binds are almost mandatory if you play ctf competitively (although i suppose they're actually *team* chat binds)

>>1633416
I'm sure having lower resolution monitors and a more doslike sourceport helps with the illusion, but ofcourse I can't get retroarch's prboom library to work properly. Luckily I own ps1 doom anyways and spectres are indeed scarier in that, especially because of the lighting engine.

>>1633290
It wasn't too uncommon in the 90's. Now-a-days I live 3000 miles away... There aren't many coop games... Not many decent mp games. Hard to sync up gaming.

Such is life.

Doom beta fucking when?

>>1633473
>but ofcourse I can't get retroarch's prboom library to work properly.

Go ask
>>>/vg/emulation

They would know. There's either some trick to it, or it doesn't work yet.

>>1633473
>Luckily I own ps1 doom anyways and spectres are indeed scarier in that, especially because of the lighting engine.

I haven't tried the Doom psx TC yet, to see how it compares. The low resolution of mednafen and possible dithering may have helped.

It's also really fun when you DO spot those little bastards from far off. It's just a slight effect.

>>1633271
>Adrian Carmack was forced out for Activision $$$

>>1633487
Oh I frequent that place, butt probably just doesn't work yet, much like the dosbox library (the windows one anyways). I really want to fucking play Normality using my settings.

>>1633497
>meant but it
>comes out as butt

>>1633074
self-resurrecting chaingunners from plutonia, if i wanted you bastards to come back to life i would play on -respawn

>>1633497
Just get a crt monitor they are dirtcheap

>>1633158
there's that one vrack-style map in dvii...

>>1633508
I have one, but it's out in the garage. Currently my dos computer is hooked to my main computer's monitor vga input. Considering I have a dedicated RGB enabled CRT for my consoles, I just don't have any more room for my VGA CRT too.

>>1632897

I have no idea how I'm supposed to read this.

>>1633630
Search in the computer area map code, it's designed to print out a random assembly. By searching the weapon name in that code, you'll find the combination to assemble it.

>>1632890
nobody ever notices spectre-chan.

>>1633640

Jesus, I'm a fucking retard. Thanks.

>>1633648
I'm down with this.

So the reviews for Wolfenstein The New Order are starting to roll in. I know most of you probably take them with a grain of salt, but it's looking good so far. Based on the ones I've read, it's a really good balance of old school action, lots of weapons, classic health and armor, as well as more modern gameplay elements. I look forward to picking it up tomorrow.

>>1632416
WE VN NOW

Another 200 minutes map for yeh.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/6iff1bux69ecpkr/200minshouse.wad

Enjoy D_RUNNIN for the 500th time.

>>1633652
/v/'s actually liking it. I take that as a good sign.

Also who's the asshole making a shit ton of announcements on /vr/oom?

>>1633667
Not sure. I only visit /vr/ for the Doom general. What are these announcements?

>>1632416
>brown horns on the sprite
>purple horns on the graphic
i can't fap to this

>>1633648
Tricky.

>>1633667
I wouldn't be too sure about that. It appears to try to insert too much story and cutscenes from what I have seen.

Also Odyssey of Noises sucks balls and I feel like smacking someone.

>>1633667
>/v/'s actually liking it.

Really? I see shit flung over it regarding the WebMs with the retarded AI all the time, as well as the 50 GB file size. Then again, apparently those were played on Toddler and the AI may be better on harder difficulties.

Though, when it comes to actual players and not dedicated shitposters I guess it's too soon to tell.

Because I'm a moron, how can I make it so I can actually read item pick-up text? The beginning portions stretch off-screen, cutting it off.

>>1632782
>PS1/Jaguar level layouts
>Original level layouts

Pick one.

>>1633683
Why would the AI be better on higher difficulties?
Modern gaming doesn't really do this.

I think only MGS even did this.

>>1633683
From what I've read the AI is fine, and either the WebM with the retarded AI was just a fluke, or they were playing on the easiest difficulty or something. I'm watching a gameplay vid of it right now, and the AI looks perfectly fine.

>>1633696

Poorly phrased. I meant PS1/Jaguar levels, but with the level order of the original. The console port does weird things where it throws Ep3 missions into where Ep2 levels should be and such.

>>1633734
Then, yeah. Start with the PSX TC. It's not that hard to "fix" it. For the level order, all you need to do is edit the MAPINFO.

>>1633715
>STALKER
>MGS
>Halo

An anon on /v/ earlier mentioned a bunch of other 7-8th gen games which affect the AI in some way.

Also
>Almost every RTS ever

>>1633749
STALKER AI doesn't change on higher difficulties.
All that changes is bullet modifier damage.

Halo only increases accuracy.

Almost all RTS don't make the AI smarter, they just give them more resources.

>>1633218
>I wonder what could be done to make pinkies a more threatening enemy?

A faster attack frame, try fighting them with fastmonsters on.
When you hear them bite you've got about half a second to get away from them.

>>1633771
Still not good. I move like Goku.

When Pinkies open their mouths, they should fire projectiles and spawn like 200 lost souls.

>>1633715
>>1633749
>>1633765
I know Galactic Civilizations 2 had it's game AI improve as you increased the difficulty level.

It would even pay you out at lower difficulties if you used cheesy tactics that it's level of AI ability was not allowed to respond to, pic related.

>>1633775
Firing projectiles removes the entire purpose of them. That would just make them faster versions of imps. I still say they would be perfect if they could bite while running, then you couldn't just wait on their bite animation frame to start then backstep.

>>1633765
Halo 3 ADDS more enemies. Can't remember if it was the same for the games after it.

>>1633649

Finally finished editing this.

http://pastebin.com/mG7F9ktg

>>1631203
Got a download link for that? I can't find shit

>>1633787
A faster version of imps would make them more interesting in battles.

It would actually make them more interesting than Hell Knights and Barons of Hell to boot.

Do many Australians here play multiplayer Doom? How does it go?

I figured our pings would always be a limiting factor. I'd love to hit up stronghold.

>>1633848
But that kills some of the variety. They're the only melee-only creature, unless you count lost souls.

>>1633854
Melee monsters just don't seem to work well in Doom.

Either they get multiple hits in at once and feel broken(MSX's red demons) or they are not even close to being a threat even if their attack was fast(-fast Pinkies and any melee only monster added to Doom)

Pinkies aren't supposed to be threatening, they're supposed to swarm around you and reduce your movement capabilities. The same for the Cacodemon (before infinitely tall actors become a toggle option)

>>1633862

pinkies are horribly unreliable because:
a) the damage variance is 1d10, the highest of all types.
b) the actual hit is only performed on the 17th tic of the attack. (35 tics to a second)
c) the hit automatically fails if the target is out of melee range (64 units from monster center ie nothing)

Reducing the hit delay and the variance alone make pinkies significantly more dangerous.
And if that doesn't cut it, add a slight thrust towards target on attack to keep within range. (like player melee pull)

>>1633862
I still like them though. I don't think every enemy needs to be super threatening. I suppose them doing a jump attack like the imps in brutal doom could be another way but they are beefy type enemies that should stay grounded.

What about a charging headbutt attack that makes them run super fast at you? They have horns so why not?

>>1633485
>tfw

>>1633652
Seen the comments that Simon Yves guy leaves on Wolfenstein youtube videos? I've never seen someone market so hard
I might get it though, might be the only decent fps released for a while

>>1633905
Haven't seen the comments, no. Generally don't look at YouTube comments.

I'm picking it up tomorrow on PS4. I watched Total Biscuits vid on it, and it looks like a lot of fun. There's even a hidden Wolfenstein 3D level in the game.

>>1633909
>There's even a hidden Wolfenstein 3D level in the game.
That's pretty cool
I wonder if there's actually more good secrets in the game

>>1633914
From what I've seen and heard it does. There's apparently secret areas, there's nazi gold to be collected, stuff like that.

>>1633682
>Also Odyssey of Noises sucks balls and I feel like smacking someone.
plutonia 29? i can see how it's frustrating if you're lost and weaponless, but once i learned it it became one of my favourite maps.

>>1633875
Dakkamons gives them a jump attack and a much faster attack animation, as well as more frequent a_chase calls.

Fractal makes them insta-deadly.

>>1633928
I dislike city type maps for doom. They feel lazy. Although I hate The Chasm more (Doom II, level 24) due to those tight ledges making me have to go too slow. Probably also the level I dislike most.

What level do you dislike most?

>>1633950
I thought Hellbound had a lot of really nice city maps.

>>1632890
Moistical wants to do UAC labs first.

>>1633881
I second this notion, a bull charge that knocks the player around could be absolutely devastating, even if it doesn't do much (any?) damage

>>1633881
hell yeah
plus it could be used for reaching secrets areas

>>1633916
There's a DOOM logo hidden in one of the first secrets in the game, and I hadn't heard about the wolf3d hidden level. Also it's actually pretty buzzword, just as a game.

Cutscenes are a bit too frequent, but they're actually worth watching, and... Yeah, really did a pretty good job of blending old shooters and new ones. If RotT 2013 turned out like this I'd have cried tears of joy for days.

>downloading the new wolfenstein
>50go
>500 seeders
>23300 leechers
>time left is shown in days
wish me luck

>>1634074
>50 gig

Texture/Audio compression, ID...how does it work?

>>1633795
Someone should make a video of the differences...

How do you console command give yourself mods/stat tokens/etc? I'll start recording and showing the differences.

>Being a lazy shit (again) and avoiding working on your Mordeth-ish project at all costs just to watch TGDD's stream

You know who you are

>>1634082
but I'm not
I watched a few minutes of it and Wolf:NO looks good
but I'm busy so I'm working on two projects instead of watching it

>>1634086

sure thing buddy; also TGDD stopped streaming half an hour ago, so nice try

>>1634078
yeah really, what the actual fuck.

>>1634089
wat
I've been working on my shit for hours and only took a peek at 3 for maybe 10 minutes
it's 7 now at my timezone

>>1634093

so it's not you whom that post is directed to, so stop whining

>>1634096
sorry, I usually assume semicolons mean to continue a sentence
in this context to me it either meant you were talking to me or the op, and I assumed myself

So regarding GZDoom Builder, is there a way to rotate entire sectors?

I've built a room one way and realized now that I'd prefer if it was facing the other way and I don't want to have to rebuild the entire thing if there's an easier way.

>>1634106
Select the sector, its verticies, or its lines, press E.
Profit.

>>1634108
Well ho-lee-sheet.

Thanks /vr/.

>>1631353
where can i download g.wad?

>>1634149
from the pastebin?

>>1633373
>>1633193
Most of the recolors just look bad imo. The colors don't go well with each other in most cases. Like the bright red baron, or the grey and red revenant. Some of them are nice though, like pain elementals and cacos. New imps are nice too.
Some people also dislike how grey most things are too.

>>1633975
Not him, but I think Hellbound looks nice but plays pretty badly.

>>1632868
I had a friend who had a bind for that to rocketjump in every damn game he could.

Oooh boy!

>>1634246

You should probably hold off on announcing another ??? character until after the first is done.

Just sayin'.

>>1634251
(Only announcing another ??? character before the first one is almost done! As in, I can see the finish line)

>>1634037

You guys need to play complex, they do exactly that (and it's very annoying.)

>>1634037
Someone posted a webm a while ago of a minotaur monster doing that.
>>1634037
I always hated their horns, I think they should be bigger. I kind of dislike Demons in general I think. They look silly.

>>1632868
>>1634237
I always thought that was a really cheap bind, but I did have a few I use whenever I play Quake. Mostly just have the mousewheel select the best long range or short range weapon, and had the middle and right mouse buttons set to shoot a grenade or rocket and switch to a better/less likely to explode in my face weapon.

>>1634257

The problem with that is that it would require playing Complex.

Where's my kawaii uguu version of Doom?

>>1633218
Do what MSX does along with making them slightly faster

>>1634374
You dont want that

Swan Fox

>>1633682
That's one of the easier maps in Plutonia. Just take the time out to learn weapon spawns, avoid closets, and kill everything but the Cyb before nearing the end of the map.

New Wolfenstein actually looks quite good, though nowhere near Plutonia.

>>1634392
>whoops
>Whoops
>WHOOPS

Why doesn't G/Zdoom allow loading external libraries?
I mean, for example you put IA.dll to a pk3, and that adds more handlers to improve the IA. Or this would be too hard to do?

there was a long boring story about my life here but luckily for you i'm posting this instead

I'VE TURNED A CORNER IN MY LIFE AND I REFORMATTED MY HARD DRIVE

I LOST MY DOOMS

TELL ME YOUR FAVOURITE DOOMS SO THAT I, TOO, CAN DOOMS

thank you in advance

>>1634428
A good list: >>1632792
And pic related too.

>>1634430
excellent, thank you very much.

>>1634428
I...you want to download the dooms?
The dooms are the first link in the first pastebin.

>>1634430
>>1634434
Older one, still good.

>>1634435
i'm not very good at communicating when i'm excited. i just wanted some cool Doom stuff, but
>>1634430
>>1634437
>>1632792
my doom overfloweth

>>1632139
which one was yours?

Came to my attention that it wasn't really possible to 100% my level from a pistol start with the little ammo I had in it. So I popped in some more.

oopslink
http://www.mediafire.com/download/h1vp81i2thvl3y9/200minshouse100percentable.wad

I DID IT

Is AlienTC supposed to have no enemies? Because from the unpopulated levels to the torches blocking my way - not to mention the weird things floating in the corridors (are they supposed to be acid holes?) - I think I may have done something wrong somewhere.

cathedral of pain (https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1621109/#1626139))

fun map, highly speedrunnable.

>>1634465
It felt great, didn't it?

Daily reminder that you're all a bunch of faggots that like Doom to try and seem 'cool' when you don't know jack shit about other retro video games.

Also why haven't you cancerous '90s born asshats taken this bullshit to /vg/ yet? Fuck off already.

>>1634493
Totally. This wad is crazy.

>>1634504
ebic bro
king of the 4chunz here guyz everyone else go home

>>1634504
Shit man, you're not even trying anymore.

>>1634493
Sauce?

Brutal Doom >>>>>> Anything any retard on /vr/ has made

stay jelly

>>1634514
The map is Deus Vult 2, I think that specific map name was Minas Tirith. Great wad.
The weapons are from Accessories to Murder, using the NC-HUD.

>>1634504
you've gotta wonder why people like this bother posting.

>i know why you like doom and it's wrong

that's two strikes right there.

i think it's an appropriate moment to post this from one of the 200min wads.

>>1634536
Which one?

>>1634430
That's an older version. You may want to update.

>>1634542
200minutes_map2x.wad https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1626443/#1630095

>>1634552
Thanks!

>>1634559
One of the other ones says "FUDGE" too. No idea why.

>>1632182
>Ultimate Doom

Got my GZDoom up and running and it's a blast. Only the what bothers me is that the text font size is a bit small when using bigger resolutions. So do you guys play with keyboard only or keyboard+mouse? What would you recommend me as my first wad? Something easy as I play with keyboard only.

>>1634570

Oh that post turned out like shit, sorry having a slight flu at the moment. So any recommended wads for newbies?

>>1634570
>text font size is a bit small when using bigger resolutions
Options/Hud Options/Message Options/Scale Text in High Res: Double

>>1634570
i use kb+m, but that's mostly because of the addons i use. if i'm in the mood for classic doom then i'll strip all mods and play kb only. it's a matter of preference, really.

>>1634584
>>1634570
also, these guys recommended me stuff
>>1634552
>>1634437
>>1634430

>>1634580

Oh thank you. So what would be the most optimal resolution/aspect ratio if my native res is 1680x1050? It only has 1280x800 as the max 16:10 res. Should I leave force aspect ratio off?

>>1634483
Don't forget to load (deh)acked file with "-deh alientc.deh"(e.g.) command line option. Also Doom2 version was always screwy on me. I recommend you to use version for Ultimate Doom.

>>1634570
I completed Ultimate Doom on UV with keyboard only just for the hell of it, but I play with kb + m nowadays, even when I don't use freelook. The manual recommends doing that (kb + m) too, so yeah.
>first wad
As in, mappack? Scythe 1 or 2 probably. They scale nicely in difficulty and are mostly short maps. But start with whatever, really. Just finish UD first preferably. Doom 2 is good enough to introduce the new monsters and shit, but the level design is in many people's opinions a stepdown from the first, so do whatever.
Just choose any of them, really.

>>1634603
>I completed Ultimate Doom on UV with keyboard only
WOW YOU'RE SO GOOD OMFG I DID THAT WHEN I WAS 11 HOLY FUCK WOW HOW DID YOU GET SO MUCH SKILL?

fucking faggots. god I hate this shithole board. The /vr/ doom community is the shittiest thing on all of 4chan.

>>1634570
tvr is a nicely easy, good-looking megawad of small maps.
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=11848

>>1634603

Yeah UD was pretty fun, although the final 4th chapter was a lot harder than previous levels in my opinion. I'll check out Scythe 1 thanks.

http://maruby.cf.gs:8080/up/marrub/pub/2.wad
another 200 minute map
I miscounted my time so it's more of a 60 minute map

>>1634621

Wow, 32 levels? Thanks, downloading it now. I also got the id superpack on Steam so I have a lot of catching to do. It contains The Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Master levels for Doom 2 and Final Doom. I finished Wolfenstein 3D + Spear of Destiny + Return to Danger + Ultimate Challenge before UD and got the kick for oldschool FPS. Fan love for the Doom community is really astounding up till this day, didn't think it's that strong.