/vr/ - Retro Games

Obligatory.

Although I will admit that this fight is great moreso because of the themes and context than the actual fight itself.

>>1623439

Any Super Star Wars / Contra / Sonic boss

>>1623447
I think it's a really lame boss mechanically. After you beat Ridley the whole rest of the game is just coasting through the motions. One of the few flaws with Super Metroid I think.

>>1623513
Original Contra's final boss is unimpressive, you have to admit. And Super C's is way too easy because of an obvious safe spot.

2D shooters are consistently the best at final bosses.

I like SMB3 a tad more, but SMW has the superior final boss battle.

>>1623687
oops forgot pic

>>1623509
fuck this piece of shit

>>1623695
What's wrong?

>>1623525
>OP said GOOD FINAL BOSSES
>Hope you got 4 E-Tanks and the Special Tank

Not to mention the boss gauntlets that came before it.

There was this game where you play as a giant head and you fire/shit eyeballs and teeth. Can't remember it's name, but the final boss was some really disturbing motherfucker.

>>1623757
Zombie Nation?

>>1623757
Zombie Nation.

>>1623439
This game is so good. I can recall I lost to this guy almost 15 times before I finally beat him (without regen items)

>>1623757
>>1623759

That's the one.

Shinobi 3 on expert, the final boss battle is great.

Still my favorite Metal Slug final boss. Most of the other earlier games have tedious unbalanced or cheap final bosses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IeVVi4hERc&t=39m30s
If the time thing doesn't work or you're embedding or whatever, skip to the 39 and a half minute mark.

>>1623756
That thing is a 1000 times better in the DS remake. Just look at this shit and shit yourself of how fucking awesome all of it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5bpOCKyAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RetInMr3VXU

>>1623810
I agree with this, although I enjoy the version of this fight from Metal Slug 3 where you have that turret thing a bit more.

Are we looking for a final boss that is a great experience like >>1623447 or challenging one like >>1623525?

Pic is an example of one that does pretty well in both fronts.

>>1623810
>dat whole Final mission on Metal Slug 3
GOATAYAM

>>1624006
>Zeromus
>challenging

>>1624006

Final Fantasy IV was pretty easy, especially the NTSC-U version. In fact, most console RPGs are easy since you can just powerlevel your characters and crush anything in your way.

>>1623530
I'd say this one and >>1623509
are the best ones posted so far. Phalanx actually requires you to use... the tidal and air crest to actually beat it if you're playing standard and not using legendary crest or wahtever.

>>1623525
>confusing good with bullshit
If I remember you can only hit him with the freeze cracker, which makes him nearly impossible if you miss a few shots.

>>1624006
>zeromus
>zemus
Nah. You should have a metric shitload of mega-elixers at this point and its only a matter of spamming your strongest attacks and miming. At least Lavos has mechanics in it.

My vote probably goes to the entire fight sequence vs. Liquid in MGS. The entire buildup is insane throughout the whole game then you fight him basically twice in the fucking Rex, then you fist fight his ass, THEN he comes after you in a fucking jeep before he dies.

Then if you wanna be pretty retro, Tyson in Mike Tysons Punch Out is a very worthy final boss.

>>1624195
>miming in ffiv
That's cute. What are you? 17? 18? Is miming a skill in one of the non-/vr/ FFIV remakes you've played? It's not in the original, I can assure you.

>>1624212
Sorry I mean't to say
>Zeromus
>Neo-Ex Death

>>1624195
>Phalanx actually requires you to use... the tidal and air crest to actually beat it if you're playing standard and not using legendary crest or wahtever.
Uh, what?
Couldn't you only access the true final boss in Demon's Crest using a password that starts you off with the Legendary Crest?
What fool would try to fight the boss without that?

>>1624195
>mechanics
>just hit the right pod!
Come on man. If Neo Exdeath doesn't have mechanics then Lavos sure does neither. Neo Exdeath can be fiendishly brutal to first-time players, punishes some of the strongest attacks in the game (Rapid Fire and Meteor), can easily wipe you out with statuses and Almagests and is generally a bitch requiring trial-and-error unless you have been overleveling and generally preparing for the battle beforehand. If Neo Exdeath isn't challenging, then no RPG boss ever is.

>inb4 I've beaten him on my first run blindfolded and with my hands bound behind my back with a party of lvl 1 frog berserkers

>>1624237
I did beat him my first try, but I was also throwing what remained of my gil at him.

>literally throwing money at the final boss to win
Lavos' mechanics are you can only really damage the right pod after taking out one of the other pods, then he uses active life that reduces the defense of the right pod. It might be a shitty mechanic, but if you're not super high level it makes the fight a gauntlet and risky.

The Final fantasy end bosses are almost always:

>super strong attacks
>tons of health
>some attack that puts everyone to 1 health
Something along those lines, which, if you realize its the final boss, should be trivial to deal with, because you can just spam all the shit you got throughout the game, like Mega elixers and shit.

>>1624236
>try and fight Phalanx.
>without the legendary crest
Because Phalanx is a joke with the Crest of Heaven, and you get it after beating his secondary form which requires 100% the game basically. Then you fight the REAL final boss>>1623509 this motherfucker, which basically requires you to use the Crest of Heaven to even stand a chance, and even with all Ginseng potions its still hard as fuck.

>>1624237

Neo Exdeath really isn't challenging, unless maybe you're underleveled and didn't bother to learn many class abilities. There are several ways to cheapshot him: Spam Coin Toss, spam 4x attack while dual-wielding, spam Quick + Bahamut, etc.

>>1623530

Lavos is one of the silliest final bosses. It's rather anticlimactic to fight a man-sized alien creature after giving Lavos all that build up as a world destroying, time traveling harbinger of the apocalypse.

CT gets way too much praise simply for nostalgia.

>>1624262
>>some attack that puts everyone to 1 health
sometimes those attacks bite the boss in the ass, like when it puts your Locke with a Valiant Knife into rape mode. I couldn't believe how fast he (and Celes) murdered Kefka.

speaking of Kefka, he DOES have a pretty badass appearance I'll give him that

>>1624262
>The Final fantasy end bosses are almost always:
Any JRPG final boss*

And honestly Neo Exdeath is at least somewhat different. His lots of HP are divided among several parts each of which has its own pattern of different status/damage spells, his ultimate attack inflicts random statuses as opposed to lots of damage etc...not trying to fanboy it out here, but he really is different and still fairly challenging and requiring a strategy unless you're min-maxing, at least he felt to me. Over the course of each of my 10+ FFV reruns.

>>1624267
>Coin Toss
Coin Toss was a poor design decision. It's literally gamebreaking enough to be tantamount to cheating. It can be used to cheat your way out of the final boss, yes...but I really feel like it's the same as using the pause exploit to instantly kill all forms of Kefka with Slots.

>spam 4x attack while dual-wielding
Neo Exdeath has invisible parts that are there JUST to soak up Meteor and Rapid Fire attacks. It's really suboptimal to Rapid Fire him as there's a chance you won't deal any damage to him at all.

Sadly the only screenshot I could find.

Good luck with the Seven Heroes. It seems like this battle averages 40 minutes unless your team can pull off an endless array of high damage combos. Unlikely, since you'll be healing and resurrecting every other round.

>>1624310
>Neo Exdeath has invisible parts that are there JUST to soak up Meteor and Rapid Fire attacks. It's really suboptimal to Rapid Fire him as there's a chance you won't deal any damage to him at all.

It's a moot point, though. You're still going to hit the vulnerable parts enough times. I had my level 50 party using this tactic, and Neo Exdeath went down pretty quickly after a few rounds of attack spam.

As for Grand Cross, there's plenty of equipment that allows you to resist status effects. Just stack the most crucial resistances, like instant K.O., petrification, etc.

>>1624275
I kind of liked it because it implied that Lavos isn't just some dumb space parasite from space but might have an actual intelligence behind it... though foreshadowing an alien invasion with Lavos being an organic parasitical space ship is quite a stretch considering it landed in 65,000,000 BCE.

>>1624336
Those invisible parts were fucking cheap. Can't make the most of Sshot with them there.

>>1624378
>Implying alien life has anything to do with humans
You can't seriously be this retarded.
If you think that Lavos is kind of a seed parasite that gets launched through the universe and then ends up where it ends up, then siphons what it can from the planet before erupting more seeds to other planets then it makes perfect sense.

>>1624378
>dumb space parasite from space
As opposed to a dumb space parasite from Guadalajara?

>>1624404
Would that make him an illegal alien?

>>1624404
The best antagonists are intelligent and become evil gods at the end, especially for RPGs. Lavos has to be the most disappointing boss ever. Now Giygas, he was a boss.

>>1624408
Bring back Ultros faggot.

>all these boring turn-based RPG bosses that are impossible to lose against

>>1624275

Looks like somebody had a shitty childhood.

>>1624518
Ultros is kill

>>1624560
no

how on earth is Drac not on this thread yet?

I'm wondering, what is everyone's favorite final boss music?

My favorite is probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vw2d3_aEC8

>>1624564
oh man I have quite a few, it's hard to pick

http://youtu.be/lT8M2nmCcKY?t=3m24s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8IINrzFWk8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuwxDvTVasM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn0glv4652Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kMkAnZ_Pck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y5UeyOTTbc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA1cfulBp8A

Yoko Shimomura = based goddess

>>1624563
>boss that can be defeated absurdly easily even on a minimalist run by jump kicks

>>1624564

It's hard to resist the urge to post a billion links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq5PBejFwds

>>1624589

God that cool 3D perspective HHNNNG

Just slightly not retro. But its Mega Man... :)

>>1624635
Too bad, piss off.

>>1624589
yes

Final boss from Splatterhouse, very fulfilling and captures the horror and gross feel, very well detailed and pretty graphic for it's time.

>>1623679
darius a suck

>>1624673
c'mon man, it was released 12 years ago. That's retro to me

>>1624754
It doesn't matter if it's retro to you when it's not retro according to the board rules.

Not because of abortion or whatever, but because of how much of a wild ride it was from start to finish.

Now I think about it most final bosses were pretty bad. In an alternate universe I'd have probably said the NME but unfortunately this one is stuck with El Oscuro. So maybe picture related.

>>1623720
That's the first reaction until you realize the first phase is trivial and the second phase has maybe 3 patterns to memorize. The equivalent in Rockman 4 Minus Infinity is infinitely better.

>>1624168
>>1624191
>>1624195
I take it we are looking for challenging final bosses then, is Mike Tyson from Punchout! challenging enough for you?

As a sidenote have any of you actually tried beating Zeromus without powerleveling like hell beforehand? Its harder than you think especially after you realize there aren't any real exploits even in the "piss easy" version of FFIV. There are no megaelixirs or mimic commands nor you can just throw money at it until it dies like you can do with Neo Exdeath with a severely underleveled party in FFV.

>>1625569
The minumum level to beat Zeromus is 40, where Rosa learns Cure 4.
Without it you just can't survive against him, period.
Make Rydia attack with Artemis arrows, since if you pummel Zeromus with magic he always will counter with his own.
Make Edge throw the Spoon Dagger to him for 9999 damage and then throw him all of your ninja stars, make Kain Jump at him and Cecil attack/use Elixirs on Rosa whenever her hp or mp run low, since if she dies you are boned.

>>1625648
>... but Zeromus *is* challenging. Just try fighting him while underleveled!

That doesn't make sense. The battle isn't challenging unless you *purposefully* make it challenging by restricting your level or equipment. Normal parties are going to be around level 60 by the time you reach Zeromus, and the best weapons in the game are littered around the final dungeon in plain sight.

>not being a final boss so large the opposing army has to split up to get at each of your parts
step it up scrubs

>>1625648
Like you said Rosa having Cure 4 is necessity and leveling Rydia up until she learns Meteo also helps a lot. I have also been aware of everything else you said for 20 years.

>>1625657
>Normal parties are going to be around level 60 by the time you reach Zeromus
Do people really tend to grind THAT much? On most of my playthroughs my party was usually in low 40s.

Also bear in mind I never said that Zeromus is particularly challenging (especially if you are at correct levels and have prober equipment) I just think he is pretty good final boss as the lead up to the fight against him is pretty memorable (at least to people like me who played FFII as kids in the early 90s) and he can sometimes fuck up a properly prepared party that isn't ridiculously overleveled.

>>1623439
FUCK YOU NIGGER CUNT I WAS PLAYING THROUGH THIS GAME

>>1625898
h-have fun

>>1625898
It's not like it's much of a spoiler. All you know is what one boss looks like.

>>1625898
Expecting nobody to ever discuss anything because of spoilers is stupid. A few months after release? Okay, go ahead and bitch about spoilers. Decades? Fuck you, the world doesn't revolve around you.

>>1625898
If it makes you feel any better, there are multiple endings based on completion percentage. That's only one of the ending bosses.

lel

You want rings?

FUCK YOU. HAVE SOME ROBOT VERSIONS OF YOURSELF AND THE VILLAIN.

>>1624275
> man-sized
Considering the average size of adult humans in Crono Trigger, he's like 4 meters tall.

>>1624331
Game? Looks fucking good.

>>1625898
That game is older than you.
Are you really bitching about spoilers?

>>1626915
Romancing Saga 2.

Not sure if there's any complete translations, though.

>>1625895
>grind that much
>literally just fighting battles as they come at me
I basically never use the run command in an RPG unless I'm dead close to the end or I'm in a really shitty situation like I can't heal and I'm in a dungeon.

Whatever the hell this thing was, it was awesome.

>>1627160
I'd like it more if it had more than, what, 2 attacks? and if that one attack wasn't almost impossible to dodge at times.

On hard mode, of course.

>>1623439
Every boss fight in Rayman 1 was good.

>>1627157
>play the NTSC-U version of Final Fantsy IV
>never run away from battles
>do everything and get the best equipment for everybody (excluding Adamant armor, you'll NEVER get those pink tails)
>be at low 40s at the end of game

I rarely run away from battles in RPGs either but I _NEVER_ do any unnecessary grinding unless it's absolutely necessary and excluding the 8-bit and some early 16-bit RPGs like pic related it never is.

>>1627265
Rolling ball beam attack and snake thing attack are total bullshit on hard mode. Unfortunately, once you get good enough at shooting the right balls, you can pretty much make the boss use entirely the power-up-spawning attack.

Why is the thread full of jRPG bosses? The only positive thing about them is their elaborate sprite.

Nightmare in Kirby's Adventure was an easy boss but it felt great just to reach him because his first phase left so little margin for error with its time limit.

>Mega Man 2 was my first vidya
>start playing when I'm 4
>ditch nes for send when it comes out
>pick mega man 2 back up when I'm 10
>mfw a green alien has been the final boss all these years

I think high speed internet was just barely a new thing at that point. Road Runner by Media One baby. Point being here that the fact the final boss was wily as an alien stayed a secret for 6 years. I miss the old interwebs.

>see you later shitlord

FUCKING ENDBOSSES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO RUN AWAY YOU CUNT

Does this count? Although he is pretty easy once you know what you're doing.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaeE0JDnjCw

>>1627368
I made a detailed FAQ about 7th Saga. I hacked the Wind Rune and found several unused towns in the game. When talking to NPCs, they mostly give either garbled txt or crash the game, but I've always been curious about them. 7thS is a fairly decent, albeit difficult, game.

Those feels when Paula prays to you...

Fuck all this shit. Never been able to beat it without save states.

Which sucks because I love this game so hard.

>>1627124
AGTP has been working on one for years, but much like the people working on the RS1 SNES patch, those games are designed to be annoying to hack without the source codes

>>1624262
Just beat him with 2 Ginsengs, bitch. Bow down.

>>1623439
HOW HAS THIS NOT BEEN POSTED YET

GOT FROZEN IN HELL WITH THE DEVIL DID YOU ALL???

>>1630585
I fucking hate boss rushes right at the end of the game.

They could have come with a decent final level instead of this. What's the point.

Think about it - it's a classic.

>>1632052
whoops. this, i mean.

>>1624564
Always liked this one, probably because now freaking epic the start of this fight was.
http://youtu.be/abPsKlF3v6s

>>1632028
Saved. I love it's design, looks truly terrifying and powerful.

Kefka was a letdown after all that buildup.

That one blue demon of the Warrian Triad (or whatever it's called) was the most difficult boss of the game. And MagiMaster without abusing rasp, osmosis and the vanish/doom glitch.

>>1632116
>And MagiMaster without abusing rasp, osmosis and the vanish/doom glitch.

>not abusing berserk and fenrir instead

>>1632118
>not simply casting Life 3 on yourself or summoning Palidor when MagaiMaster is almost death

>>1629996
when you pray for yourself

>>1630752
My fucking negro

>>1632056
>fire mario on the end
that looks easy,just ram yourself and use the invincibility time to get the axe and done

>>1632116
saved in return.

that first time climbing the inferno and getting hit by "calmness" as a death counter before the tier switch tho that was the worst

>>1632118
>not wearing a muscle belt on one character because the tv you owned as a child on your first playthrough was lacking in brightness so much that you couldnt see switches in the phoenix cave and never acquired Locke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-04R90u4BwU

>>1632037
Right? Like, what's the point in making me fight all the bosses in order all over again one after the other AND THEN a final boss in one life? Fawk. Ruins the end of an otherwise stellar game.

>>1624560

>>1633418

>>1633402
I hate boss rushes in any game, period. If it isn't a Mega Man game, don't have a boss rush.

>>1632037
Illusion of Gaia also did it

>>1633430
What about in games like Gradius where there are boss rushes of bosses you haven't already fought?

>>1633461
I don't have an opinion, I don't play shmups

>>1633464
You don't have to have played anything.
Are you against boss rushes period, or just having to refight bosses?

>>1633430
How about an optional boss rush where you can select it from the main menu and fight all bosses that you've faced, possibly for some special reward?

>>1626878
Nigga please

Sonic 3 & Knuckles had the most elder godtier bosses toward the end. What's the point of getting all 7 chaos emeralds if you can't use them to fight eggman in space?

There's also something to be said of the sonic 3 launch base zone boss in that it can HARM SUPER SONIC. Dafuq... ?!

>>1633519
I freaked the fuck out when he slammed god mode out of me.

>>1633519
It gets really epic from Lava Reef Zone 2 on

>An eggman pod that fires rockets and spike walls at you in waterfalls of magma
>Knuckles (He's admittedly pathetic but he was never anything more than a thug to begin with.)
>Sonic 1 & 2 Nostalgia with Metal Sonic
>A giant eye that goes apeshit when you hit it, and upon destruction takes the deathstar's outer shell and artificial gravity with it
>An upside down boss fight with a centrifugal bumblepuppy that shits out spikebuggies

Then shit gets real.

>An egg mecha so huge that it literally cannot fit on the screen, that snorts out fire and shoop da whoops muh lazer of righteous assrape from the master emerald itself before taking the rest of the death egg down with it while eggman desperately tries to make off with the emerald inside
>Super Saiyan Sonic dodges missiles and asteroids chasing down eggman and it's awesome and ZOMFGNSONICCANFLY!!!!!

Shit I gotta play this game again. Fuck all the pedantic purists who would berate me for not calling him Robotnik. His full name is Ivo Robotnik and Eggman is a nickname, in addition to always being called that in Japan anyways.

>>1633553
I'll always call him Robotnik, but I won't berate you for calling him Eggman.

>>1633572
It's the name I called him as a kid. Isn't that what counts for the spirit of /vr/?

>>1633578
I don't have a problem with it. I grew up calling him Robotnik.

my fav shmup last boss is probably Garegga's

>>1623439
>tfw I've never been able to get the proper final ending

>>1633474
Having to refight bosses. I don't mind it in turn based RPG's where bosses become enemies during random encounters like FF1, otherwise don't make me a do a boss I had already beat

Persona 3 is a mixed bag, and I don't care for most of the game, but god damn if the endgame sequence and the fight with Nyx's Avatar isn't incredible.

>>1623447
Boss is pretty simple.

>>1625961
>>1626923
>hurr durr it's old so your experience doesn't matter

What kind of shitty mindset is this? You people do know what spoiler tags are used for right? You are literally saying that someone isn't entitled to the same experiences as another just because they didn't experience it when it was new. This shitty mindset needs to leave this board and quick.

>>1639308
>expecting to not see final bosses in a final bosses thread
>wanting discussion to be neutered because someone might see something they didn't want to see
>complaining about spoilers in a game where the plot is mostly, if not entirely, irrelevant
Literally all he's learned is what one of the bosses looks like.
What exactly is the big problem?

This fight would have been god-tier if the vortex queen was fought on a 2-D plane instead of in the background.

>>1639454
Oh hey, is that a screenshot of the PC version?

>>1639506

I assume so. I only played the Genesis version, but that pic looked the best so I chose it.

I pretty much enjoyed every boss fight in this game.

How small is his robopeen?

>>1640716
Mother fucking Melzas. Alundra has been my favorite game since I was 5 and it came out. It's still my favorite to this day. I never, EVER see people talk about this game, and I've met 1 other person in my life who knows what it is. Why does no one appreciate this game?

>>1641341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EpdCBDsk_o

>>1641357
What shitty playing. I can beat him without using subtanks until the second form and only using three. Maybe it's because I beat him three times because the escape sequence fucked me up.

>>1624281
We need one that puts you to 1HP and inflicts Zombie.

>>1624582
>boss that can be defeated absurdly easily even on a minimalist run by jump kicks
Order of Ecclesia fixed that.

>>1641382
>>>/v/

>>1639308
>hurr durr just because I didn't see it/play it yet I have the right to go into a thread actively discussing the topic and expect other people to not spoil.

What kind of shitty mindset is this? You people do know what the catalog is used for right? You are literally saying the entire thread should revolve around the needs of one person. This shitty mindset needs to leave this board and quick.

>>1623530
I dig his design but the boss fight itself was a bit underwhelming despite stunning visuals and music.
If you're well prepared he's not that difficult to deal with(that said, some endings do get pretty hard if you're not using new game+)
Still, you play CT mostly for the plot and glorious design so it's still one of my favorite games

>>1640716
WHY DO YOU DEFER THE FATE THAT AWAITS YOU BOY

He broke apart your friends, had your father made made in to a battery.

Just really awesome overall.

>>1645069

Loved the way her belly burst open.

>>1645070
I wonder if this is what they were trying to turn Mina's sister into in 4?

>>1645069
>>1645070

Let me see if i'm correct.

Tyr (BoF I) is the mother of Deathevan (BoF II) and reincarnates as Myria (BoF III), right?

Also, BoF IV apparently happens 500 years prior to BoF I.

>>1645659
bof iv is a different world. 1-3 Seem to be identical, and I think 5 is a prequel.

>>1645069
>five dicks

>>1645703
>Maybe more

>>1645703
Eleven dicks. Eleven. And he shoots another electric dick out of his chest as attack animation.

>>1645703
>>1645713
>And there are faces in them

>>1640716
>>1641348
>>1645034

>Melzas
>good final boss
I don't think so Tim.


I think Alundra is actually a great game, arguably the best "Zelda" style game since Zelda 1. But holy shit, Melzas' is not a good final boss.

Dragon isn't "Melzas" but lets include it anyways.
>Equip Nava's charm and you're immune to his fire
Which means the only way to take damage is for him to hit you, and hes incredibly easy to dodge, using the charged holy sword hes not difficult

>Melzas P1
>Equip fire wand
>Charge it
>Literally attack either the first one or last one that appears and he will never get an attack in

>Melzas 2
Literally the end game, so you may as well just spam Fire book 5 times and win.

Shittiest thing about Alundra was it started out hard boss and enemy wise, then it gets way too fucking easy. Alundra's difficulty comes from its cryptic puzzle difficulty and very difficult jumping puzzles.

This guy has always been one of my favorites.

>>1647157

>>1624589
Yeah, that was pretty good.

This guy.

>>1629996
God bless ASSFARTFUCK, he saved us all, the true hero of the game

>>1647157
I think they got the order of the last bosses wrong, honestly.

The first K. Rool is really hard, but the one in the Lost World only needs one hit to defeat and is really easy in comparison. Kind of anti-climatic.

>Not posting the GOAT final boss

>>1625658
Is this from Bahamut Lagoon?

>>1647509
Yes

>>1647524
Thank you.

>>1647463
You had to go through a lot more shit in comparison to get that one hit though.

>>1647498

DIE, ALLIED SCHWEINEHUND

I liked the FF games, but those unidentifiable masses of arms and sinews that were used as end bosses weren't exactly well designed. Out of the classic FF bosses, Kefka was the best because he had an identifiable form once you beat the horrors beneath him. And yeah, so did Sephiroth, but he was really derivative.

>>1624782
Your "ship" there is a much more memorable final boss. Unless you are just talking about the bullet patterns.

In any event, I think Capcom came up with a pretty cool way to fight a huge ass Dragon in a beat em up. They re-used the idea in their later D&D games, too.