/vr/ - Retro Games

FUCK, just as I posted the OP I realized what I actually should have started the thread with...

But yes, lets get the obvious out of the way.

It of course doesn't need to specifically be the Xenomorph design.

but in a lot of cases it probably will be.

Here's a weird one from The Astyanax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hnt0eW9gU#t=16m21s
(skip to sometime after the 16 minute mark if the link doesn't work right)

Also unrelated but rare case of pixel nudity at 11:52

A lot of designs in Alien Soldier seemed 'Gigeresque.' The walls of the sewer level for example seemed to be lined with Space Jockeys.

That big dude you fight in every R-Type is clearly channeling the Xenomorph's design.

>>1618614

Reminds me of this stage in TMNT: Tournament Fighters

One of my favourite box art.

>>1618617
Dobkeratops

Headcrabs are retro, right? They've always been pretty shameless facehugger rip-offs.

>>1618624
Wait, that's what it's called? Kinda underwhelming.

For some reason the big chair statue always creeped me out the most in the Alien movie.

Pic is from Kabuki Quantum Fighter

Oh hey, and also post official Alien games!

Which are the good ones?

>>1618603

The Arnold trace is 1:1. Rambo doesn't quite match up. Makes me wonder if he actually traced somewhere else. The right guy sort of looks like the Indian guy from Predator.

The cover artist did in fact in an interview admit that the game looked like a Predator and Alien ripoff, so he ran with that.

>>1618630
Da bes

>>1618634

How the fuck has Kurosawa not been in a single other game even as a cameo in a Capcom crossover or something?

No Metroid? C'mon guy, how the hell wasn't it the first post.

>>1618636
Licensing rights? I dunno. Sega owns the Alien license now I think.

I knew him best for designing the Celtic Frost album cover

>>1618641

But wasn't she an original character created for the game by Capcom? I suppose the alternative is that she is now an official part of the canon which I suppose I can deal with.

>>1618623

That's by Katō Naoyuki. He was probably inspired initially by Giger, because I believe that Giger was the first or one of the first to do biomechancial artwork. But that does not mean that all biomechanical art is therefore Giger-esque.

http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2011/03/guardian-legend-across-world.html

>>1618638

For some reason I remember them be even MORE of a Xenomorph rip-off

Oh man. This sucks...

I actually have an artbook of his. RIP, man who hid genitalia everywhere.

>>1618642
Speaking of album covers by Giger,,,
He really lost all subtlety with this one.

>>1618650

lol

>His most infamous work was a poster inserted into the album sleeve of The Dead Kennedys' LP Frankenchrist.

>The image of rows of genitalia resulted in the band's vocalist Eric Reed Boucher, aka Jello Biafra, being tried for distributing harmful material to minors in 1986. The case was dismissed.

>>1618649

Fucking stairs, man

>>1618649
I'm genuinely amazed there are people who can look at the Alien and NOT see a penis.

Was Alien really big in Japan or something? It seems like there a metric fucktons of Japanese games that have been inspired by Alien.

>>1618661

That's very likely. There's also the trend where Action Games heavily emulated Action Movies of the time.

>>1618661

Most 80s big action films were pretty big in Japan. Not just games but also anime of the time (and probably lots of other media which I don't know much about) all take pretty heavy inspiration from them. I actually think that's part of the reason why a lot of westeners feel modern anime is missing something that the old one had. At the time there was just a lot more intersection between the two cultures then there is nowadays which made it all seem slightly more familiar.

Anyway, Aliens. They're fucking everywhere.

EVERYWHERE

Rest in peace, you crazy alien penis man.

>>1618657
Cannot be unseen

>>1618650
>Barely skimming the most offensive image possible
>Not even knowing the difference between a cover and an insert

but I needed him for my next aliens game... ;_;

There was an unfinished indie game, it was a platformer & music game with skulls, almost like Giger's design. Can't remember the name though.

>>1618636
Sylphie from Forgotten World dresses up as her in Namco X Capcom. I think that's the only time she's ever referenced.

>>1618721
I know a lot of freeware using Giger's style but none of them are retro.

Has this been mentioned already?

Giger's designs reminds me a lot of Japan's designs, maybe that's why they took a liking to him.

Streaming Jaguar AVP on twitch. Tokiovigilante

Fuck now I'm sad

So, /vr. Did you murder Giger?

>>1618632
The Rambo trace is actually a trace of ANOTHER Arnie pose from Preadtor.

>>1618657
I knew something was up with that, it wasn't until I started noticing it until Yahtzee made a comment about "Geiger having daddy problems and drawing everything as a dick", or something to that extent.

>>1618665

This!

This webpage in japanese has a compilation of different 80's and early 90's movies that were ripped off in japanese video games.

http://www.geocities.jp/yadayo8/eiga/alien.html

>>1619142
>Yahtzee made a comment about "Geiger having daddy problems and drawing everything as a dick"
I hate that kind of amateurish pseudo-Freud

>>1618668
What game is this?

>>1619170

Looks like Bangaio

>>1619161
>I hate that kind of amateurish pseudo-Freud

And I hate people who take obvious jokes as serious comments. You really think fucking Yahtzee of all people is trying to give mental evaluations?

>>1619170
the missle trails look like bangaio

>>1618601
Darkseed is neither a rip-off nor a tribute. It was done by Giger himself. So, good thing you didn't start your thread with it.

>>1618603
Damn, Arnold and Rambo fighting off Aliens, all on a game with some of the best run'n'gun gameplay and some of the most memorable chiptunes, how fucking rad is Contra.

>>1619130
Since I had nothing better to do with my time....

>>1619207
Give Rambo a Rambo head

>>1618691
Dicks and cunts barely count as most offensive images possible, really.

>>1618650
I once saw an album cover that was a black and white shot of a woman's labia and another of a young girl completely in the nude in a provocative pose. How do they even get away with that?

Not really video game related, but I've always loved this painting.

>>1619281
Fucking derp.

>>1619158

whoa, this is really cool. thanks

>>1619232
>a young girl completely in the nude in a provocative pose
If you're talking about The Scorpions' Virgin Killer, probably because they airbrushed out the naughty bits.

Even though Zero Wing is boring crap, it has by far my favorite Giger inspired level: a tropical rainforest looking area with hives of eyes staring in from the background and the signature look plastered on foreground pillars.

What the FUCK was even going on with this stage?

>>1618947

Are there any retro Warhammer 40K video games with Tyranids?

>>1619436
Zero Wing also has a pretty rockin' soundtrack.

>>1619464
Space Hulk on the 3DO? Genestealers are a type of Tyranid I believe

Hard not to notice the influence he's had on Sakuba.

>>1619464
i thought it was cool that instead of a generic ghost house in a carnival stage they went for Gigeresque alien rapehouse instead.

>>1619436
CATS himself is very gigeresque, a combination of man and machine

>>1619483
Also Rites of War, aka "Panzer General 40.000"

>>1618628
It was never a statue.

>>1618626
Half-Life 1 came out in 1998 and was built on a modified Quake 2 engine, it's retro.

Technically Modern Warfare is retro because it runs on a highly advanced source port of Quake 3.

Man, for years I had a screen shot of the final level of Super R-Type showing all the dick imagery. But of course I deleted it since I never got to use it, and this thread would've been perfect for it.

Anyway, Super R-Type.

>H.R. Giger
>Now taking credit for the cultural influences of Ridley Scott's Alien

Fuck you bitches.

>>1619512
that's not how technicality's work silly, if it wasn't actually made before the cut off date, it doesn't count. Games aren't engines, they are built on them.

At one point this thing was going to be an Alien game, but then id software declined to ask for the rights to create a videogame based on the movie to focus on their own ideas

>fun fact: a user-made mod focused on Aliens was more talked than the very own game's sequel at the time (1994); yes, people have been discussing mods even before the sequel's release.

And also there's a high chance their graphic designer checked both Necronomicons (Lovecraft's and Giger's) to create stuff for both Quake and this game

There's lots of Giger stuff in Metroid. Like those fireball-spitting wall heads in Super.

Also, Mother Brain. Remember the name of the ship's computer in Alien? Mother.

The self-destruct sequence at the end of each game was mimicking Alien, too.

>>1619518
Have fun telling Doom fans that total conversions like MM8BD aren't retro.

>>1619530
it's pretty obvious that games sitting in on retro content, or ideas or culture are inclusive.

>>1619532
So by your definition, wannabe-retro games like I Wanna Be The Guy and Cave Story are retro?

I don't think you thought this through very well :/

>>1619517
wut?
The Brood appeared in comics 3 years after Alien

>>1619530
Doom players /vr/'s football fans.

>>1619536
thematically, they sure deserve mention on a board like this for their referential material.

Call of Duty, however, does not. Are you telling me MM8BDM doesn't deserve to be mentioned here because it was made after the cutoff date but is still based in retro game culture?

>>1619526
Btw, did I miss it, or did no one mention Mother?

The boss' name is even similar to Hans Rudi's

>>1619530

Have fun asking DOOM fans to play MM8BDM; all I need to say is that it killed a sourceport's multiplayer scene. Doom fans nowadays can't give two shits about MM8BDM; sadly no-one plays it anymore in the way it was conceived...I refuse to explain myself any further, so the thread doesn't get derailed anymore.

>>1619541
No, I'm saying it does deserve to be mentioned here because it's a mod of Doom.

Also, you think Cave Story and I Wanna Be The Guy are retro, opinion discarded.

>>1619554
on the contrary, you're just assuming I said they are retro games, when I had quite obviously said thematically they ground themselves in retro ideas. As such, should deserve a mention here. There are a number of reasonable thread concepts which could justify their discussion on this board. I wouldn't hesitate to harken to cave story if someone asked for metroidvanias and were open to newer games.

>>1619543
>Giger
>Giygas
Woah.

Stop your fucking bitchfest.
It's a thread about Giger.

>>1619560
It's even worse, anon. His Japanese name is Gigu

>Metroid
>Contra
>Doom
>Quake
So... if there were no Giger, we'd get just a fuckton of games with armed guys fighing other armed guys? Like in the present day?

>>1619517
The fuck are you trying to say?
Giger designed that fucking Alien so anything influenced by that fucking Alien is accredited to Giger not the man who took the pictures of it.

>>1619284
It's probably his gf that committed suicide
anyway, Alien level in Gradius II

>>1619530

I had this idea that, if I ever made a faux-retro PC game, I would make sure it could work on a 1999 gaming PC. For example:

>Windows 2000 or later (Win2K launched at Dec. 15, 1999)
>Pentium III or better (May 1999)
>256 MB RAM or better
>whatever GPU could be needed to work

Know what I mean? Sure it's built for modern computers, but if it can run on an old Gateway from 1999 with no problems, then it can be classified as /vr/.

'Chakan: The Forever Man' had a boss after the credits that was quite directly inspired by H. R. Giger's work (2:40): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjNhIQTVZM


Most of the projects Giger has been part of aside from Alien have been dissapointing, not making his style justice; even Species felt like a wasted opportunity (look up the story behind the "ghost train" from the flashback). It's nice to see he has left an impact anyway, with people being inspired by him and wanting to homage his work.

>>1620330
Well, that's the moviemakers faults for wasting such a good asset.

>>1618638
>>1618646
Metroids are spooky

>>1618597
Holy shit. This makes me really sad. Everyone's posted everything I would have posted already, so I'm just gonna leave this here.
RIP IN PEACE.

>>1619497

>>1619512
Quake 1 engine actually. Source Engine still has code from it.

is this been mentioned, in this stage you enconter facehuggers too.

>>1618636
She's in the background of Ken's stage in one of the Alpha games I think, or maybe Pocket Fighter.

>>1622080
It was Ken's stage in Alpha 2. His stage was the official cameo stage in that game; there's like 20 people in the background who should look familiar.

>>1618603
How could you fuck this up?

This seems like an obvious one. Pretty much all of Lunar Apocalypse

The entirety of Biometal for SNES is clearly Giger. I think he might even be in the credits.

>>1619207
That's also definitely a Chestburster trace rather than a full alien trace, though I can't find the frame

>>1618636
Why are so many cops named Kurosawa? There's one in Persona 3 and Binary Domain and a couple other I can't remember.

>>1619130
Holy shit you're right

>>1628265
Exhaustive list of this stuff at http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/tracing.htm

Metal Law for Amiga

dude lived a long full life and we still didn't get enough of his shit

we need more giger shit and we need more murky WHAT THE HELL IS THAT shit instead of full bright LOOK AT ALL THE HARD WORK WE PUT INTO EVERY DETAIL shit that studios put out now

>>1619517
Ummm wow... Dan O'Bannon deserves fucking credit for the original idea of the alien, his design was a little off the mark (see picture). The relationship between Giger and O'Bannon could be described as one of mutual respect and probably friendship. It was O'Bannon

>>1618606
>first time playing MS3
>finally make it to last stage
>holy fuck I'm in Alien!

>>1626196
fucking slimers, I hate them

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQqREb5i47U

>>1619114

Man Dark Seed 2 was lazy. The first one took Giger's designs and used elements or re-drew them as characters and levels in the alien world, and the end result looked genuinely creepy.

The second? Take a Giger painting, downscale it horribly, slap a catwalk in front of it, DONE.

>>1619483
>>1619464

There was also the Space Hulk DOS game