/vr/ - Retro Games

Saturn didn't have a big enough library to justify the investment for me. The only exclusive I'd probably want to play is Shining Force III, and it was only partially localized.

>>1607995
And what is the number of your crack dealer? I want to experience the same kind of delusions that you are.

>>1607964
yes segata san I play mine everyday and am awaiting new games, got me house of the dead, virtua cop 1 and 2 and 2 virtua guns coming in the mail :)

Sorry but I've been playing my Genesis.

I bought one a few years back, but I've lost the power cord and can't fucking find it anywhere.

>>1608196
it uses a standard ac cord. You can buy them anywhere that sells electronics.

>>1608196
You got a PS3 or Dreamcast? Both cords work on the Saturn.

I tried Astal the other day. It kicked a fair amount of ass. I need to try and get an actual copy someday.
Also I have a Japanese copy of Enemy Zero that I've been afraid of playing for some time now. Is it feasible to attempt in spite of the language barrier?

>tfw no saturn
I just wanna play the superior version of Silhouette Mirage

>>1608202
make sure it's a polarized cord though

>>1608231
Go download SSF then, unless your computer is a toaster and can't run it.

>>1608259
I'm gonna speedrun it so emulators don't cut it

>>1608040

I've looked over Saturn's library. There just isn't anything I like. Is that a crime? Does my inability to enjoy a console somehow vicariously prevent you from enjoying it?

Yep, playing through Magic Knight Rayearth that I recently got in a trade. Had to take a picture of this after losing my shit for about a minute.

>>1608309
That game is one of my favorites of all time. The Saturn just has so many good feels for me. I realize that technically the Dreamcast is probably the better system, but Saturn games and the hardware just have a special feel for me.

>>1608306
obv

>>1608309
do I need to watch the anime to know what's going on in game?

>>1608340
No, it starts from the beginning. The translation and voice acting is quite good for a weeaboo-as-shit game that came out in '98. Plus, it's filled with hilarious dialogue that the translators put in.

>>1608340
Nope. The game tells pretty much the whole story of the anime from the beginning.

Now if only we could get a translation of the Game Gear games...

>>1608306
SEGA SATAN SHIRO!!

>>1607964
I wish shima would opensource SSF already


it's not like he's working on it anymore

I can't find Saturn games anywhere, which is weird because I know a lot of people had Saturns back in the day in my country

>>1609106
A lot of Saturn stuff got dumped to GameStop when the PSX/PS2 craze was hot; once that stuff didn't sell, it got liquidated and sent to warehouses were they just sit gathering dust.

>>1609752
Not American

>tfw just got a saturn

on the note of saturns, how hard is it to install a mod chip?

>>1607964

>>1610301
also, is this a good chip/the only one available?
http://www.segastyle.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=76

>>1608225
Astal is dull. Looks nice, but oh so boring.

>>1607995

Say that to my face Sony boy, not through BBS and see what happens.

>>1610340
You have to know how to solder. Honestly, just get the 4-in-1 cartridge, it's dirt cheap and has more upside.

>>1610367
can that be used to play back up copies?

>>1610374
no just imports

>>1609752

If one were to raid those warehouses, how difficult would it be?

>>1610389
Far and away the most difficult part would be finding the right warehouse.

>>1610410

Correct.
I just went through a google search and the warehouses are huge, they stock BOTH the used games to sell and the used games to keep, the games are sorted by date and console but I also read some stuff about Gamestop destroying all old psx games, so who knows about Saturn?

I exclude warehouse workers stealing them because I worked at a warehouse and the LAST thing i'd do is snatch something, the security is always perfect and losing your job over something so trivial is stupid.
However I also don't think Gamestop wanted to keep Saturn games for posterity since they're still a profit-based business, and those old games are "stealing" space for the new used games.

I'm playing Dark Savior. Anyone ever beat the game?

I've gotten to the Silver Castle and the wonky platforming (diagonal platforms in a game with only four-cardinal-direction movement) has led to many a frustrating death. That shit is cray.

>>1607995
In terms of quantity and ease of access, the PS1 is obviously an easier choice to recommend.

I also feel obligated to warn people that some Saturn exclusives, like Mr. Bones and Enemy Zero, are actually really crappy.

>>1610340
it's a good chip, it's what I've got installed in my Saturn.

>>1610645
how hard is it to install?
should I like, practice soldering stuff before I try to install it?

>>1610887
not really, all you have to do is bridge two solder pads with a lump of solder. The rest is just plugging in ribbon cables

Was his actual game any good?

>>1610587
>I'm playing Dark Savior. Anyone ever beat the game?
Yup, multiple parallels, too. The platform isn't going to set the world alight, but you'll miss the jump control and that solid "thud" when you land in future games.

It's also the first "rpg" i've ever played to feature toilets. I suppose the good folk of Granseal back in SF2 shat in the woods.

>>1610587
>the wonky platforming (diagonal platforms in a game with only four-cardinal-direction movement) has led to many a frustrating death
The Saturn controller has diagonals. There's nothing awkward about pressing diagonally on the D-pad to move diagonally on the screen. I don't understand your problem. It's a great game, though if there's anything wonky about it, it's the battle system.

I have finished all parralells though, it's quite a trip that final one. You essentially have to run through the game backwards within a time limit. Of course to have gotten that far at all you must already be pretty decent at playing the game, so it's a fair challenge.

You knows it.
>tfw none of these games got a PAL release

>>1611075
pretty sure Deep Fear came out in the UK

>>1611078
I just noticed myself :)

>>1611079
just out of curiosity, what's on the Capcom volume 5 pack?

>>1611081
Street Fighter 2 vanilla, Champion Edition and Turbo Edition. Makes sense buying them for Saturn since the Saturn pad is still the best for Capcom fighters.

what saturn controller do you prefer?
I kinda wanna get a model 2 controller cause the model 1's shoulder buttons are kinda weird

>>1611084
Model 2's the best. Get the Virtua Stick as well, the build quality is solid.

>>1610095
Have fun burning all your money away. You picked the shittiest time to get one. All the other places stopped selling modchips aside from Racketjew who increased the price of theirs up to like $80.

>>1611092
this place still had some >>1610340

>>1611075
ive been thinking about getting deep fear how much japanese is in it?

>>1611092
Except that's wrong.

http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/saturn/saturnhard.htm

>>1611101
Dialogue is all in English and menus are mostly Japanese but It's not too much of a problem. Also posting some more of my collection in case people want to ask about any other games.

>>1611104
2 questions:
>1. is Radiant Silvergun overrated or is it legit the best 2D shooter ever made or somewhere in the middle?
>2. What's on the Capcom Vol 2 pack?

>>1611109
1) I think Radiant Silvergun is a brilliant and inventive shooter, but not quite the best on the system. I would say Battle Garrega or Dodonpachi are the best. Definitely worth getting, but shop around as it can be overpriced.

2) Ghosts 'n' Goblins, Ghouls 'n' Ghosts and Super Ghouls 'n' Ghosts.

>>1611104
Oh yeah I said you had a nice collection before haha. I think I will have to pick up deep fear soon, it's going to have to wait I've been going crazy ordering saturn games lately. I've got tons of them coming in the mail haha. My collection is not too bad so far though imo my saturn is my baby now and has become my favourite console by far.

>>1611123
It's looking good anon!

>>1611075
Batsugun, Sillouette mirage and Astal are on my want list. Kinda just started collecting Jap import Saturn stuff. May i suggest playing Princess Crown, it's my fav and the reason i started a Jap collection.

Pic related.

>>1611240
Thanks anon, will have to check it out. Is it playable without knowing Japanese?

>>1611258
Yeah it's playable, there is some English in it and it's a pretty linear game. You miss out on the excellent story though, so it's better to play it with a guide. Plus it's one of the best looking games on Saturn imo.

(btw nice collection i might post some of mine up later)

>japanese games $20
>US games $80

This is why I emulate saturn games.

Really need to get a CRT for my computer for older shit like this I swear.

>>1611240
Why is the Saturn pad so based? Why can't anyone else get d-pads as right as this?

>>1611427
Isn't it patented?

>>1611427
Some have. The XBox 360 dpad is a floating design similar to the Saturn's, and MadCatz FightPads use a floating dpad too. There's a patent covering the Sega implentation that prevents other companies from just copying it completely.

Have I been playing my Sega Saturn? Why ask questions you already know the answer to anon?

I hope Sanshiro doesn't come kick my ass for spending some time with my new Master System. I just bought it with some games a few weeks ago and I have an FM synth mod on the way.

I-I don't have one.

But I have been diligently playing my Sega Genesis, Sanshiro-san.

>>1611414
Most of the time there's no difference between regions, at least.

Like, you lose the English victory text in Capcom fighters, or a little flavor text in Sky Target (but then you ask yourself: "Why did I buy Sky Target?").

>>1611101
The game's objectives are spoken to you in English, so it makes up for the written text being in Japanese. I only had to look up a FAQ one time in the game.

>>1610939
I actually quite like the atmosphere/world of the game. The small scale of the world is actually appealing, since it isn't entirely about saving the world (though it sort of is).

Parallel 2 should be called "Coincidences: The Game" - Wow, your brother is magically on the island! Wow, her girlfriend also showed up too! Wow, the girl who was missing for years is inside this podunk shit castle dungeon hidden by an obtuse puzzle! It gets a -little- silly after a while.

>>1611062
Pressing diagonals never seemed to work on the normal pad. Were you using the 3D controller, or am i just fucking up?

The battle system is lame though. It feels very rushed and unfinished. And ugly with the sprite scaling (he said of the entire game).

>>1611491
>Most of the time there's no difference between regions, at least.

Yeah but the Saturn's region locked and I don't trust myself with anything I need to do myself like soldering.

>>1611527
the action replay cart takes care of region locks, though.

>>1611574

yeah well I don't own a saturn at the moment, knowing that though I might just go ahead and go through with it.

how are the emulators for the saturn?
What games are good for it?
is there a big torrent pack somewhere with all the games?

>>1611702
>how are the emulators for the saturn?

>>1611721
last time i used the emulator it was fine and played all the games, they must of gotten even better by now. there is no way im buying a system where all the decent games are in japanese anyway.

>>1611702

SSF is decent and also your only real option

>>1611702
>how are the emulators for the saturn?

Working but buggy.

>>1611601
Eh, emulating is just fine if you're interested in a couple of titles. Lol, you even have a Sega Saturn USB controller as well, so it's like you got the real thing!

>>1611721
>2014
>people still think SSF doesn't work

>>1611464
the xbox dpad is a piece of fucking shit.

>tfw only can find model 1 controllers
;;

what are some good saturn platformers? preferably 2d

>>1613182
Clockwork Knight 1 and 2
Bug 1 and 2
Shinobi X
Mega Man 8
Metal Slug
Astal
Castlevania SOTN
Silhouette Mirage
Sonic Jam
Rayman
Tomb Raider
Burning Rangers

Though platformers were never the Saturns forte - shooters and fighters are.

>>1613182
Ninja Jajamaru Kun: Onigiri Ninpoucho Kin is a 3d platformer but plays more like a 2d one

>>1613332
The Saturn port of SotN is pretty mediocre even if it has a few extras. It has a lot more loading and lag than on Playstation and most translucency effects are gone. It's also Japanese-only so a few things need to be memorized. You'll also need some way to break region lockout if you're playing on the real system, and it seems to be more expensive than the Playstation version, lord knows why.

All these great games that never made it to the west..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwOv61e8kqA

>>1613332
>Bug 1 and 2
Oh come on

>>1613408
It's hard to recommend a lot of those games when they either suck (like Bug!), or have superior or cheaper playstation ports.

So yeah, the Saturn is not going to win any 2D platformer awards.

>>1611075
Is Astal worth owning? It's like 50ish dollars and I'm already trying to buy Princess Crown. I was just gonna consider burning a copy and disc swapping to play it.

>>1611729
Why not? Besides the Japanese versions are always cheaper (except for like Nights) and most the games are arcade ports that require little English to play.

>>1613406
Shit like this is why I wonder how westerners love SEGA so much. SEGA fucking hates you.

>>1615582
>50ish

The mean value of recently completed ebay auctions is between 20 and 30 dollars, roughly.

Nothing in Astal comes close to a $50.00 value. Honestly, I think it's a little pedestrian outside of its graphics. Do noooot waste all that money. I wouldn't (and didn't, years ago) spend more than ~$25.

>>1615582

Astal sucks, I bought it and sold it. I've had my Saturn for 3 years now and I'm realizing that the best games are the arcade types/cheapest ones with an exception for Panzer Dragoon Saga.

>>1611491
>Pressing diagonals never seemed to work on the normal pad.
I use a standard one (pic related), no diagonal problems. Maybe there's some gunk screwing up your D-pad?

>>1615935
>pic related
hurr.

>>1613182
>>1613332
>>1615245

>2D
Super Tempo
Earthworm Jim 2
Tryrush Deppy
Assault Suit Leynos 2
Elevator Action Returns
Sonic Jam (Sonic 1 + 2 + 3 + Knuckles)
Arcade Gears 3 - Wonder 3
Bubble Symphony
Capcom Generations 2 Chronicles of Arthur
The Lost Vikings 2
Pandemonium!

>3D
Ninpen Manmaru
Croc Legend of the Gobbos
Sonic Jam (Sonic World)

>>1616138
Oh and how could I forget Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru

Does anyone else in this thread besides
>>1611240
have Princess Crown? I love all of Vanillaware's newer stuff and it looks really cool, but it's like $60. Is it worth that much or should I try to get it for less?

>>1608180
House of the Dead is the worst on Saturn.

Terrible, Terrible port.

>>1616610
its the only console port where you can use a lightgun also mark from CGR likes it and joe from gamesack does too despite it running at 20FPS. I dont care either I just want to play because I'm not an autistic faggot

I haven't, Segata. Here's why.

I picked up my Japanese Saturn for $3. I don't even know if it works because I don't have a power cable and AV cords for it, nor do I have a controller or any games.

>tfw when my mod chip just shipped

>>1608473
He is, if you follow his twitter.

It's mostly a programmer experiment to him nowadays, he is doing shit like porting it into OpenCL just to see if it runs.

It was also one of the first apps ever with an AVX build.

>>1611062
>The Saturn controller has diagonals.

Not the model 1 non-Japanese batwing controllers. It's extremely challenging to diagonal sweeps on those. I can barely move diagonally in Darius Gaiden with that controller, while I can 1cc the game on hard with the original Japanese controller.

>>1611109
Radiant Silvergun is extremely overrated, but it is still among the best shmup on the Saturn. Graphical extravaganza, lots of content, unlockables, etc.

Do note that the Saturn has shit loads of extremely good shmups, so being one of the best in that category alone speaks volumes of the game.

It's just not some REVOLUTIONARY BLEND OF RPG AND SHMUP or BEST GAME EVER MADE. That's nonsense.

>>1612208
>the xbox dpad is a piece of fucking shit.

The x360 dpad is still miles ahead of literally every non-Saturn/Megadrive dpad.

>>1617068

>>1613332
Metal Slug is unplayable on the real hardware. The slowdown is absolutely insane, the game runs at maybe half speed if more than 5 people are on the screen.

Bug 1-2 are... very long and possibly annoying by the end. I'm sure I made it up to the last level of Bug 1 but I lost interest at that point. Then again, I had the same problem with Clockwork Knight too.

Astal is very pretty but other than that its an average game.

SOTN looks like dogshit on the Saturn in all honesty.

Sonic Jam is only worth a damn if you don't have the Megadrive games, since it has average ports of those (some awesome effects like the music speeding up are entirely destroyed).

Burning Rangers has bad controls and camera movement. If it didn't have Sonic Team written on it, it would be entirely forgettable.

I'd recommend Keio Flying Squadron 2, it has a bunch of frustrating parts but the humor makes up for it tenfold. That game is absurd!

>>1616150
>Oh and how could I forget Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru

Probably because it goes for 500$ on ebay.

I've been too buys trying to learn Japanese
I want to be able to play Saturn Japanese exclusives at some level before the end of the year

>>1617081
>The slowdown is absolutely insane, the game runs at maybe half speed if more than 5 people are on the screen.
Don't you need mandatory 1MB RAM to even get this game to work?

>>1617081
>Metal Slug is unplayable on the real hardware. The slowdown is absolutely insane, the game runs at maybe half speed if more than 5 people are on the screen.

I have it on Neo, Saturn, PS1, and PS2. Saturn version runs just fine.

>>1617256
Define "fine". I've heard it is the best home console port, but it still has pretty bad slow down, even with the custom tailored ram.

I have not even seen a Saturn in real life.

What does the ram cart do/what games need it?

>>1610301
I have the racketboy one, and all i did was plug it in and stick the wires where i was supposed to. It works, but every once in a while i have to open it up and make sure the wires are still in the right spots, which I wouldn't have to do if i'd soldered it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNwYPdEBTc
I watched this video, and I saw the light. I'm sorry Segata-san. I'm sorry I wasted my life on sex and meaningless pursuits and completely looked over the arcade brilliance that was 90s Sega. You died for us while showing us the true value of a meaningful hardcore life while you lived. Sanshiro died with the 90s, but we can all learn from his example. I'm putting up a portrait of him next to my gaming setup and purging everything that isn't Sega.

You know what is good and pure. Do the right thing.

>>1617317
Any fighting games made by SNK and Capcom, and Metal Slug.

I would emulate the games if SSF liked me. But it straight doens't work on my PC. I remember the games would only play the intro movie and go back to the saturn menu.
And the games look like ass on Yabause.

>>1617902
Having trouble with SSF? This beastly emu has very minimum requirements.

specs?
I played

capcom generation 2 came in the mail today. damn I hate this level haha

>>1618021
well I picked up the cross already on this level this thing destroys projectiles that is too sweet. Will I win the game the first time around if I have the cross with me? Holy shit this thing fucking wrecks red arremers too the wimpy range kind of sucks but its still pretty beast.

>>1618039
You ultimately need the cross to beat the game, so you might as well get used to it.

Level 5 is a special type of hell, so have fun with that!

>>1618110
I beat level 4 without dying haha just zipped through it had a bit of trouble on level 5 but damn FUCK level 6 I shut it off cause its getting late but I was having an awesome time.

>>1608352
Is it worth splashing $150 for?

Holy fuck why are Saturn games so expensive. How much cheaper were they five years ago?

>>1618201
Not that much less so. They've been expensive since around 2001 or 2002 or so, whenever Funcoland/Gamestop/EB stopped carrying them. Granted, games like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Burning Rangers have just been getting more and more expensive, but they were never "cheap", that's for sure. Radiant Silvergun's been steadily at the same price for as long as I can remember. In fact, I think that one's a lot cheaper than I remember it being.

Segata Sanshiro is the only time in Sega Japan's history that "marketing" was actually understood as a concept at Sega.

so do any of the slim dvd case formatted covers still exist?

Real Bout Fatal Fury Special and King of Fighters 97 in the mail today :D

>Saturn thread
>No mention of Guardian Heroes
You're missing out on one of the best games for the Saturn!

>>1607964
Currently enjoying my non-canon Sega Saturn port of Resident Evil.

>>1620148
What makes it 'non-canon'? The Battle Mode?

I would like to try out the port myself, but as much as I love the Saturn, I just think the Director's Cut is enough for me. Especially for RE's current hardo-gay prices. I recall it being something like $30.00 max a few years ago.

>>1618210
>In fact, I think that one's a lot cheaper than I remember it being.
Thankfully, it was released digitally and lowered the demand. I wish SEGA released a digitial version of Burning Rangers and PDS but that'll never happen because they lost the source code.

>>1617085
There are other ways you know

The Saturn sucked anyway.

....kinda...

>>1620398
I wish they just jerry-rigged some emulator to play the Panzer Dragoon Saga and Burning Ranger ISOs/ROMs/whatever, and filtered them a bit (or touched up some of the wonky 3D).

Quick, dirty, probably not satisfying, but good enough, dammit.

>>1620023
Great game. I sold it though because I felt that the XBLA version made the Saturn version a little redundant (even if I aesthetically liked the Saturn version more).

What's the best SNK fighter for the system?

>>1621818
I'm having a lot of fun with the two I just got. Real Bout Special performs awesome on the saturn. King of Fighters 97 as well but it loads between every fighter but the load times are short.

>>1622881
Cool. Are the menus and dialogue all in Japanese?

The only haves I have for it are VF Remix VF2 Guardian Heroes, Toshinden URA, Daytona USA Championship Circut edition and Sega Rally Championship

Also the Japanesse startup music was better then the NTSC one

>>1623037
Nope, there is barely any japanese in it at all. Even the win quotes on real bout special are in english

>>1616535
In my opinion it's worth $60 that's what i paid for it, as i can see it only increasing in price over time. The only other options are to get the far less superior PSP port or emulate.

Gonna break out the Saturn this weekend and play a couple of these gems. Nights and Initial D need another go! Also need to play a bit of Mizubaku Daibouken!

>>1623150
I wish I could read moon..

>>1623502
It's never too late to start learning.

Is there a good place to buy Japanese Saturn games without breaking the bank? The damn things almost never show up in shops around here, and I'm itchin' for some Saturn goodness.

>>1623139
Damn, 60$? I never see it go over 3,000 yen in japanese stores online.

>>1624340
Ebay, most Japanese games trend $50+ cheaper than their NTSC counterparts, especially JRPGs like Panzer Dragoon Saga which is like $20. Its the Japanese exclusives that are more expensive ones like Radiant Silver Gun or D&D.

Has anyone played the Virtual On for saturn? Is it worth $15? I wanted to get into that and the Dreamcast game in the franchise.

>>1624363

You need special controllers to get the most out of them. They're fun games, though.

>>1624371
I'm aware that its needed for the Dreamcast game, but I've heard the Saturn version is easier to control because of the extra face buttons.

>>1624371
no you don't, use whatever controls you feel more comfortable with. I kick ass at that game with just a standard controller.

>>1624376

The virtual-on arcade machine had twinsticks, and is a major part of experience. Playing on a d-pad loses a lot of that - get the twinsticks. Its like "Densha De Go!", "Samba de Amigo" or "Sega Bass Fishing" - without the special controller, it just ain't the same.

>>1624413
Maybe sown the road if I like the game. Do you know if the saturn sticks work for the dreamcast if you have an adaptor? The dreamcast virtual on controller is stupid expensive.

>>1607964
Foolish Takashi Hongo! Revealing to us the origins of your secret training has sealed your fate! We have trained our monsters on Sega Saturn. Now you will stand no chance in defeating them!

Segata san please tell me where the games are.

I bought the Saturn, but there are no-NO DON'T HIT ME AGAIN!

I feel like playing Burning Rangers but fuck if I'm gonna shell out like two hundred dollars for a copy. How fucked would I be if I tried to play a japanese copy? I don't into moonrunes at all and last I recall the navigation thing was kinda supposed to be important.

I'd just emulate it but I can never tell if fifth gen games were just naturally this slow or if it's my godawful prebuilt.

>>1623150
How is the Eva game?

>>1624790
The Eva game isn't great, it probably would be more enjoyable if i knew Japanese. It's kinda like a interactive Eva episode thing, pretty crappy really. I only got it cos it was cheap and I'm a huge fan.