/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1600337
What's the game in the image? It looks cool. Sorry, I don't have any suggestions though :(

>>1600342
Nevermind, forgot about reverse image search.

Ogre Battle
Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2 remake for SNES
Wizardry 1 2 3 remake for SNES
Fire Emblem 6 (though the gba games are superior, just saying)
Seiken Densetsu 3
Terranigma with ntsc patch
All Lunars for Sega CD and PS1

If you like anime settings and charming characters, Live a Live.

>>1600342

shining force ii

Do you want to be the little girl?
Play Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure. Don't be a homo.

>>1600337
Final Fantasy Tactics
Advance Wars (any one)

>>1600370

advance wars are a very nice strategy games but doesnt have the role/level upgrading elements

front mission 3

trpg with mechas

>>1600378
DS games do have leveling, both for your COs and for your troops. Sage for nonretro.

>>1600348
Is Seiken Densetsu 3 fully translated? Should i play the secret of mana first then this?

>>1600385
I am sure he meant Famicon Wars

>>1600390
Yes, and they're really different games. Try them out.

>>1600390
>Seiken Densetsu 3
>trpg
And people are hating on Advance Wars

>>1600394
Alright just making sure but was the official release of secret of mana a good translation? or was their a fan translation?

Bahamut Lagoon, you get to have dragons. Though you don't get full control on where they'll end up going on the grid.

Vandal Hearts for the Playstation.

I remember it being pretty solid and fairly challenging. There's a sequel but I never played it.

>>1600394
Ive heard that Seiken Densetsu 3 is one of the best rpgs on the snes, is all that hype really true?Also there is no fan translation of secret of mana right? just the official one? was there anything wrong with it i should know?

>>1600420
>>1600390

same problem here, and shinigame tensei, doesn't have official translations

>>1600440
Well i just wanted to know if the official secret of mana translation was bad, If it has a fan translation i would rather play that. but since it doesn't im guessing it was good. Is the Secret of Evermore worth playing? as far as i know it was only for the us, is it any good? or should i go from Secret of mana to Seiken Densetsu 3?

>>1600348
>Fire Emblem 6 (though the gba games are superior, just saying)

FE6 is a gba game though. Do you mean Thracia (FE5)?

>>1600448
Anyone?

>>1600482
>>1600448
Wait wait wait.

Secret of Mana was a game
Seiken Densetsu was secret of Mana 3?

What the hell was secret of mana 2?

Also secrets of evermoe is alright, played the first hour and got kind of bored. If you like Final Fantasy Adventure on the GB, you'll love evermore.

>>1600495
>go research my own question.
>Final Fantasy Adventure was Secret of Mana 1

But yeah, you should like evermore but if remember correctly the rpg elements are scaled back comparatively

>>1600495
>Secret of Mana, originally released in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2?, lit. "Legend of the Sacred Sword 2"), is a 1993 action role-playing game developed and published by Square (now Square Enix) for the SNES. It is the sequel to the 1991 game Seiken Densetsu, released in North America as Final Fantasy Adventure and Europe as Mystic Quest

Huh.

What the fuck is Final Fantasy Adventure like? Also Seiken Densetsu 3 really that good? on thw wiki it says it was the best rpg on the snes in japan.

>>1600512
Final Fantasy Adventure was pretty simplistic storywise and graphics wise but the mechanics where there.

I can believe that Seiken Destsu 3 was...
>The prettiest rpg
>Had multiple storylines
>Good mechanics and party mechanics

But the BEST rpg...that's a matter of opinion.
FF5 gives it a run for the money in mechanics and FF6 gives a run for its money in story (SD3 had probably the best graphics though hands down)

>>1600520
Story wise is it really good? does it have waifus?
but geez i got so much on my plate i actually just got a flashcart for my 3ds and started chrono trigger for the first time and also bought chrono cross for 3 bucks on my vita. I know hoe highly popular chrono trigger is but how is chrono cross? Im pretty hyped to do Seiken Destsu 3 at some point in time though.

>>1600520
Are the multiple storylines for girls?

>>1600532
>does it have waifus?
Only the best.
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=riesz

>>1600532
Chrono Trigger is probably superior to SD3 in every way except graphics, and even then, not by much.

>>1600535
>>1600532
You pick a party of three from 6 or 7 characters at the start of the game.

Depending on who you pick for a main character, the story is slightly different and the final area is different (in pairs; character 1+2 have similar storylines, 3+4, 5+6, and I think is just out in left field.)

But it has been 10 years since I played it, so give or take a number here or there

>>1600536
Well ill defiantly have to play it sometime, ill play it right after im do chrono trigger for the first time and secret of Mana, which ive heard is good.
>>1600540
Is it really? even game play wise and waifu wise? wasnt the Secret of Mana kinda like a action rpg, is sd3 like that? Is there classes and cool characters? I know you can choose a girl in chrono trigger somehow but how is it in SD3? can you pick a waifu?

>>1600540
the ds version of chrono trigger is the best one right?

>>1600540
Is chrono trigger really better then it even romance wise and complex character wise? just wondering because i feel like romance wise and complexity of characters in chrono trigger might not be the best but what do i know i kinda just started chrono trigger but i have a dbz feel from it, which is mostly good for simple action and good characters.What is sd3 like or about? is it a bit more serious?

>>1600548
The final boss and dungeon changes depending on your leader.
Angela and Duran get the mana ruins.
Hawk and Riesz get the dark castle.
Kevin and Carlie get the Mirage Palace.

The intro is different and you can trigger some special events depending on your other characters. I know most of them show up if you use any of the couples above.

Also you can just play as the three girls, it's a fairly balanced team actually.

>>1600552
That's right.

Chrono Trigger is classic >Menu >Pick Action Rpg while SD3 is Legend of Zelda Link to the past slash slash slash Rpg

So they are siginificantly different in the gameplay respect.

>>1600567
All I remember is that I was lucky to have the main character as a caster and two brawlers for partners because the AI didn't know shit about cast magic and magic couldn't be cast concurrently which made have multiple mages kind of slow and dumb

>>1600573
well how could one be better game play wise then the other? I like both. does sd3 have cool skills and magic and summons? it seems like there are a lot of characters, do a lot of them get a lot of character development and foucs are a lt of them waifus you can choose or focus on story wise? Would you say i should first play Secret of Mana (or Secret of Mana 2 whatever) then sd3? how is Secret of Mana anyway?

>>1600581
I never played past the first 10 minutes of secret of mana because every rom I got froze after beating the first boss.

Chrono trigger special moves are cooler because they are cooperative and party dependant.

SD3 special moves are pretty but just animated cutscenes for individual.

Fuck, just play them both. Get a magic eight ball or something.

>>1600591
Ok but the animated cutscenes for individuals sounds awesome. I will play both since they both sound like top rpgs, I guess ill have to play secret of mana first though, which is highly popular it seems in the west. It werid it never got a DS remake like chrono trigger.

c t and zelda are not trpgs =P

>>1600434
its the most beautiful rpg on the system. Gorgerous graphics, tons of different enviroments, and an amazing and varied soundtrack.

The game itself (like most rpgs) is lacking. There isn't too much strategy, exploring has little to no rewards, and the action isn't well developed

>>1600949
It's better than the other RPGs on the SNES though.

As a person who sucks at TRPG's and wants to get better, are there any games I could get retro-wise, that would give me the basics? Just an entry point to the genre, as I love my RPG games, I'm missing out a huge chunk due to my inabilities.

In no particular order, these be the ones I thought of with a little time and that I've enjoyed:
NES:
Nobunaga's Ambition.
Fire Emblem.
Just Breed.

PSX:
Final Fantasy Tactics.
Vandal Hearts series.
Hoshigami.
Front Mission series.
Brigandine.
Kartia.
Vanguard Bandits.
Tactics Ogre remake.
Arc the Lad series.

Sega CD:
Dark Wizard.
Shining Force CD.

Mega Drive/Genesis:
Langrisser/Warsong.

SNES/SFC:
Front Mission.
Tactics Ogre.
Tenchi Muyo.
Bahamut Lagoon.

Turbo Grafx/PC-Engine:
Order of the Griffin.

Saturn:
SF3.
Mystaria.
Dragon Force.

There are others, such as Crystal Warriors for Game Gear and various games on GB/C but I've not liked them all that much so I've not mentioned them. Also, if you can read Japanese or Chinese, Bahamut Senki, the prequel to Bahamut Lagoon and the only Square game released for a Sega console is supposed to be pretty good. I don't know. I can't into moon (not even that I don't know how to read it; I literally am unable to ever into moon).

>>1600348
Most of the games you listed aren't tRPGs.

>>1601053
Try Just Breed. There was a translation of it last year and it's seriously amongst the best tRPGs I've ever played, regardless of it being so damned old and on such an old-ass console.
I highly, HIGHLY recommend it.

>>1600434
1) SD3
2) CT
3) ALTTP
4) FF6
5) Mother2

How is the star ocean series on the snes? why does noone talk about them? Also was the two psp games remakes of the first two or completely different games?

>>1601336
>3) ALTTP
whats this?

>>1601336
Not a single tRPG on that list, Anon.

>>1601507
I don't think it's been Englished yet.

>>1601512
A Link to the Past.

>>1601507
First Departure is a remake of SO1 (SNES), Second Evolution is a enhanced port of SO2 (PS1).

Everything I've heard about Front Mission 2 makes me wish there was a comprehensive English translation for it. Otherwise, I'm more interested in XCOM and its breed.

Actually, CRW (Counter-Revolution War) and CRW 2 for the PC-98 both look really cool.

>>1601523
Oh okay, ill stick with them then, was the series ever any really good or recommenced? Also whats the best version of lunar games and on what system? these games have also been highly popular and always talked about but i never played them. Is Lunar: Silver Star Harmony for the psp the best version? and is there a better version of 2 i should play?

>>1601537
>a comprehensive English translation for it

But there is (for some reason the patch on RH.net is outdated):
http://frontmission.info/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Downloads

Granted, it's not 100% complete, but the main story is playable from start to end.

I know the psp version is the better verson of lunar one but since lunar 2 never had a psp remake what better the sega cd od ps1 version of it? ive heard they are really different, they cut scenes out and monsters dont appear on the over world, here its from wiki.
>The differences between this title and Lunar: Eternal Blue on Sega CD are numerous. The Lunar 2 remake implements many of the same gameplay revisions as are found in Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete; there are no battles on the overworld and no random encounters. Also like Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete, the size of most of Lunar 2's many dungeons decreased substantially from the original game. Four dungeons were cut from the remake, and several new ones were added (the exact number varies from Saturn to PlayStation). The Magic Experience system from the original game does not appear in the remake.

The graphics are more detailed than in the original release, due to the higher resolution and broader color palette of 32-bit platforms, compared with the Sega CD. While many monsters from the Sega CD version recur, they are all redrawn, and a number of bosses look quite different. The overall number of full-motion video (FMV) cutscenes in Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete is about 35, significantly reduced from the original MegaCD/SegaCD version's 61. A number of short, scene-setting cutscenes and minor character introductions were cut from the remake. Despite this, the total amount of FMV time is longer in the remake because many scenes were extended.

So which one is considered better? Anyone play both versions?

>>1601576
I own both of them. Sega CD version is quite a bit better. The PSX version moves along so quickly that it feels like an abridged version. You don't get to know the characters like you do in the original and after playing the PSX version I understand complaints about the characters and story.

The new art style is really ugly and the sprites, while larger, don't look as cute. Lack of random encounters isn't bad per se, but the dungeons in Lunar 2 were actually quite complicated for a jrpg, and in the PSX version they cut them up so they are just a bunch of hallways.

Also the original Sega CD pixel art cutscenes look better than the anime/cgi ones in the PSX version.

Also the music is worse.

Unlike Lunar SSC, Lunar 2 complete does nothing better than the original. It isn't even cheaper, last I checked. It is the perfect example of an entirely unnecessary remake.

>>1601539
SO2 for the PS1 remains one of my favorite games of all time, it's beautiful, those pre-rendered backgrounds, that music, that Ashton. Yeah it's awesome. Unsure about the PSP port, though, as I've yet to play it. I'd say SO is heavily recommended, one of the best JRPG's for the PS1.

>>1601576
>I know the psp version is the better verson of lunar one

Not true. Like, at all.

Not enough FFTactics in this thread

>>1601603
If the OP knows what a strategy (or tactical) rpg is, he knows about FFT.

>>1601596
Alright but would you happen to know if there is an undub of the sega cd version? Im trying to find a undub of lunar 2 for the ps1 but cant find it, i did find a undub of lunar 1 for the psp.
>>1601601
Wait why? doesn't it have everything? which version is the best for that?

>>1601608
I wouldn't know. But if you are just worried about Working Designs, they didn't do anything too embarrassing with Lunar 2. The voice acting is better than many later games (looking at you, Final Fantasy X), even if it isn't "great", too.

And, as a note, the PSX version isn't terrible. It just is worse at everything than the original.

>>1601608
If you want to know the differences between the PSP and PS1 versions, here's a copy-pasta that might help you:

- the redone maps are way smaller in Harmony
- bosses are much easier, since they don't level with your party, like in SSSC
- random battles are also easier, since every monster got a stat redution
- Harmony has "gauge moves" (some of them are really broken)
- enemies frequently drop Star Lights in Harmony (a strong healing item), you can get 99 by the time you reach the Red Dragon
- there's no world map to explore (not that there's a lot to explore...)
- the final boss became a joke (this one is really bad)
- if you're going to play Eternal Blue in the future, the sudden change in voice actors for recurring characters might feel strange (EB and SS use the same voice actors, but not Harmony, so, for consistency...)
- there's this really annoying "music stops and a black screen pops up every time you enter a house" loading-thing that really bothered me
- the prologue in Harmony is really cool and not present in SSSC
- the graphics in Harmony look nice and the music sounds better

So, it depends.
If you're going to play EBC and want a challenge, play SSSC
If Silver Star is the only Lunar you're going to play, and you want something easy, play Harmony.

>>1601613
Well I would really want an undub for it, and as for the psp version of lunar 1 why is it not the best? I have an undub for it and everything....
If anyone knows where i can get a undub of the sega cd version of lunar 2 please i would rather have it like that. Also about lunar 2 but it says the ps1 has better endings though, so is it really better?

>>1601619
>undub

Not sure about the PSP version, but this is one of the cases where I don't recommend a undub. The NA voice actors are way more expressive than the ones from the original JP version.
At least that's the case in Silver Star Story Complete, I never tried the others.
There's a reason why Lunar is way more popular here than in Japan.

>>1601618
>- if you're going to play Eternal Blue in the future, the sudden change in voice actors for recurring characters might feel strange (EB and SS use the same voice actors, but not Harmony, so, for consistency...)
Is this for the English cast? because i want the undubs of one and two anyway also that really doesnt seem like a reason to not skip to the psp version, even more so since i got a undub. As long as no story or scenes were changed i dont care. lunar 2 is way more of an issue for me, I was gonna try and find a undub for the ps1 version too play on my psp but now that lunar 2 on the sega cd is so much better im gonna play that only thing is i cant find a undub... fuck.
>>1601631
Ive heard the dub, for me it sounded awful sorry. im not playing these games without undubs.

>>1601619
The ending in the original is good.

So Lunar is a TRPG? That's new.

>>1601639
dam its annoying when there are so many versions fuck. Im fucking confused with 2 now, there is the sega cd,sega saturn, and ps1 version. Which one really is the best? the saturn and the ps1 are the complete versions. is the original on the cd really the best with the most story? why did they make a complete version then? I just want a fucking undub for one of these.

>>1601654
>I just want a fucking undub for one of these.

Sorry, there's no such thing. Play the japanese version, if you want japanese voices that bad.

>>1601654
Saturn and Playstation versions are the same except the Saturn has better music (the playstation versions of all have weak music). The reason there is no localized Saturn version is because Working Designs did the localization and the Saturn was dead by the time they got around to it.

They made the remake because they remade 1 and (for the only time) decided to put out the entire series. Presumably the point of the whole exercise was that the Sega CD is an extremely niche platform and was an even bigger flop in Japan than it was in the west.

chrono trigger is a BTA, not a TRPG

Fire Emblek its fine, when you lose a character, you lose it forever, so it rise up the challenge

>>1601659
Why hasn't there been an undub while there is one for the psp one? And is the complete version of lunar 1 actually better then the original unlike lunar 2? I will play lunar 2 after i do the psp version of 1 (if its complete story wise, i get that it changed some thing gameplay wise) but since lunar 2 complete took out so much story wise i guess ill have to play the sega cd version with ... dubs. even though there should be a undub by now. does the ps1 version of lunar 2 have a undub?

>>1601668
It is a matter of taste. EVERY version of Lunar 1 is very different. It isn't like Lunar 2, where there is only one remake and it is relatively similar. Lunar 1 on the Sega CD has an entirely different soundtrack, in high quality red book audio and really cool, dark graphics (due to the Sega CD's lower colors). It is also extremely easy and doesn't flesh out the characters as much.

I always recommend PSX for 1, and Sega CD for 2. But it isn't like the original version of 1 is bad, or anything.

>>1601668
PSX undubs are extremely rare and difficult to make. I think there's one for Xenogears and it took the guy years to release the thing.

About Lunar, I'm a huge fan of the Complete versions on the PSX, but that's just my crappy opinion.

Also, you could make a new thread. Lunar has nothing to do with TRPGs.

>>1601674
well im gonna play the psp version of 1 which is just the ps1 remake anyway. ill play lunar 2 on the if its really missing a lot of the story on the remake, it does say though that one of the endings on the cd is a still image while the ps1 version is an animation, but besides that do both version have the same endings? Always where can i find lanar 2 for the sega cd? its hard finding it.
>>1601678
I was wondering if the sega cd one had a undub but i guess not.

>>1601679
They end the same way. The ending credit roll is a still image in the original, but there's an animated cut-scene right before it. It is just a slight difference in presentation.

As for finding it, do you mean a ROM? You can buy the game anywhere you can find used games (locally if a big enough city to have Sega CD stuff, Amazon or Ebay if not). For the ROM, any emulation site should have it. I know as a fact that the iso on coolrom works. You don't even need to mount the thing if you have KEGA fusion.

>>1601679
So you're playing the PSP undub, and then the SCD dub? Oh boy...

>>1601674
About the sega cd version of lunar 2, is the game play any worse though? is the game play better on the psx version? I care more about the story though and since there are 61 cut in videos on the cd instead od like 30 i guess the story is better on the cd. but if anyone played the psp undub version of lunar 1 and also the ps1 version, are they any different story wise or did they keep everything the same?
>>1601686
Alright thanks if they end the same ill go with the cd version and yeah i meant a rom, im having a bit of trouble finding a torrent of it but ill check cool roms.
>>1601702
I cant do anything about that if there was an undub of lunar 2 on the sega cd then there would be no problem. Im playing the lunar 1 complete psp undub then the lunar 2 sega cd dub because its all i can do. I just hope it really is worth it and that the stories really are what they are cracked up to be.

>>1601686
>(FMV) cutscenes in Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete is about 35, significantly reduced from the original MegaCD/SegaCD version's 61. A number of short, scene-setting cutscenes and minor character introductions were cut from the remake. Despite this, the total amount of FMV time is longer in the remake because many scenes were extended.

How do you feel about this? what exactly is your reason for saying the cd version is better? Are the 30 something fmvs that were cut really add to the story and feel? It says that the total time of fmv's in the remake is the same, what did it have in the fmvs that were different? also another question but the sega cd or psx version weren't censored at all right? just another thought i wanted to ask.

>playing gba or psp lunar

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

>>1601743
psp lunar is the psx version what the fuck is wrong with it.
this person >>1601618
stated the problem but they dont seem like issues too me, as long as it has the same story and scenes it fine. Also it even says Harmony has a prologue that the complete version doesn't. If the game is actually just easier then im fine with it as long as the story stayed the same. Also it actually has an undub which is even better. It seems from this thread that the only lunar game that changed for the worst was lunar two, but since lunar psp is the complete version of lunar 1 which nobody had an issue with, whats your problem is there something i dont know? will going from lunar 1 psp to the sega cd version of lunar 2 be too different quality wise in graphics and story? or does lunar 2 cd version hold up story wise?

>>1601737
Just play the damn games. The point isn't the quantity, it is the quality. The story is exactly the same, the scenes are the same. The cgi-anime cutscenes are longer than the animated cutscenes of the original. The reason that the original feels like a better experience is because of the time you spend with the characters in their actual adventures, watching their cute sprites fight it out in much better designed dungeons. The remake moves you from cutscene to cutscene at a very fast pace that makes you feel as if you are missing something.

But the cutscenes themselves aren't the point of the game. It is just a bonus that they are so cool in the original.

>>1601806
Alright well ill just play lunar 2 sega cd then and the psp of lunar one since its the same thing as the psx version scenes and story wise.

>>1601828
I heard they removed some key scenes from the PSP version, though. Not 100% sure (I'm probably thinking about Lunar Legend), but you might want to look into that.

>OP asks for trpgs
>thread devolves into jrpg shitposting

way to go square fans

So in lunar 1 and 2 can you choose a girl or is it about the main girl in these games romance wise?

>>1600348
>Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2 remake for SNES
>Wizardry 1 2 3 remake for SNES
>Seiken Densetsu 3
>Terranigma with ntsc patch
>All Lunars for Sega CD and PS1
>TRPG

>>1600352
>Live a Live
>TRPG

>>1601058
>Bahamut Senki is a tactical role-playing game developed by Sega for the Sega Mega Drive in 1991.

Square didn't develop this

>>1601336
>>1601336
>1) SD3
>2) CT
>3) ALTTP
>4) FF6
>5) Mother2

>TRPG

>>1601336
>Calling A Link to the Past an RPG

>>1601636
>Ive heard the dub, for me it sounded awful sorry. im not playing these games without undubs.

Oh boy, this is the same shit lord that hates Snatcher's English dub

>>1602086
He probably thinks that Ghost in the Shell's dub is inferior to the original too.

>>1600398
Secret of Mana (SD2) was translated by Woolsey.
>Probably 40 percent or more of the text was nuked - there just wasn't space. Story elements, nuance and personality had to be stripped out. It was, in some ways, the hardest game I'd worked on. I loved that game, but am probably most dissatisfied with the result. I was there for over a month, and the screen text was being modified every day. Certainly tried my best, but that thing nearly killed me.

>>1602073
Curses! Foiled again!
A website mentioned it as being the predecessor to BL and being the only Square game on a Sega console, but I've never even bothered to d/l the rom and check it out for myself because, as I stated already, I can't into moon.
So turns out not only is it unrelated to BL, but claiming that BS was related is itself also BS and such a claim has more in common with BM than with truth. My apologies for spreading this BM all over /vr/. :-(

>tRPG thread
>lunar and zelda
>Dear me... I do hope the poor lads aren't retarded.
>Perhaps they've each led sheltered lives.

>>1602083
You play the role of Link.

>>1602180
wait was that the official translation? for real? holy shit you know how popular this game is? and the translation was like that? is there a fan translation going on at all? just how much is missing from the story? for anyone who played the game did it feel like it missed a lot? what did they do with the untranslated stuff? I was going to play it but maybe not ?

>>1600352
How is that game?

>>1602405
It's actually pretty fun. The game is divided into separate stories that are really short and can be played in any order. Some are better than others, but it's one of those games that really should've made it into the states.

>Mages useless as fuck
>Monks sexy as fuck
>Overpowered Peter
>Overpowered Slade
>Disappointing Kiwi
>FUCK YOU ODD-EYE

>>1602403
Unfortunately no there isn't a fan translation. As much as I admire the man and his working conditions though, that is one translation that needs a dire update. At least in the vein of Chrono Trigger where it basically just took the existing one and made it more correct.

It was never even updated when Squeenix released their shit mobile port.

>>1602180
I always though that this line was out of place in a game made by Japanese developers.

>>1604241
wait what game are you talking about sd3 or secret of mana? Are you talking about sd3 ? was that translation that had issues sd3? >>1602180

>>1604241
does the chrono trigger ds version have the lines fixed?

>>1604247

Yeah, somehow even my 13 year old me knew this couldn't be true.

>>1604250

He talks about Seiken Densetsu 2, aka Secret of Mana.

>>1604241
Oh sorry i read it too fast, you did mean secret of mana, is it still worth playing or is it completely not the same as the japanese story? sd3 is translated perfectly though right?

>>1604250
SD2 IE SoM. The translation is poor because everything had to be compressed. Imagine typing up some long SMS message on your old pre-smartphone phone, yeah? You had to condense your message to 160 characters while still rendering it comprehensible. Now imagine having to do that about 300 times AND not being able to use abbreviations.
It was sorta like that.

>>1604258
>sd3 is translated perfectly though right?
Hate to break it to ya, but that's not really a thing.

>>1604258

SD3 is closer to its original but still far from being perfect. Leaving the fact aside that you barely ever can translate something perfectly, you also have to deal with stuff like text compression in SNES games. English sentences are on average much longer than Japanese.

>>1604268
wait why? wasn't it fan translated? if you mean perfect by just not being completely like the japanese but as long as it holds the same meaning i dont care.
>>1604262
Wait so what was cut from the translation? how much?
Also im playing the ds version of chrono trigger is that re translated? its not censored at all is it?

>>1604279
Well, I work in translation. I've never translated a video game from Japanese, though, as I can't into moon. No matter how hard you try, there will always be something lost in translation. Always. The translator's job isn't just to translate but to minimise the loss as much as possible. A loss of 1% is still a loss, you know.
This is why instruction/technology translation is the easiest and what most translators do for a living: there's little to no subtlety or subtext to get across, resulting in near lossless translation.
Sadly, for film, literature and the like, there will always, ALWAYS be loss.

>>1604287
Well i mean as long as sd3 translation has it all unlike the SD2 which had to cut and change things im fine with it, i understand how translation works and know it cant be completely 100% the same. I just wanted to know the quality of sd3s translation. Its sad to hear sd2 didn't have a good quality translation though, makes me not want to play it and just skip too sd3.

Kind of surprising how there's no Secret of Mana retranslation, if that's the case.

how do you fucking cacth the rat in chror trigger? on the beams.

>>1604302
honestly, just play it for yourself and find out.

>all this off-topic

>>1604287
Translation bro here. I know that feel. Got the same problem when translating x-com to my language.

>>1602204
My thoughts exactly, why are they shitting up this TRPG thread with unrelated topics.

>>1601058
I wish more people would talk about Arc The Lad

>>1604403
Cute. I was just transferring the Collection to my PSP to play the whole thing.
What can you tell me about Arc Arena, though?

>>1604459
It's useful if you want to duplicate items. I never used it for anything else.

>>1604302
Wouldn't know if SD2 or SD3 were well done as I can't into moon. I hear SD2 isn't very good. I played SoM, though, back when it was still 'new' (I remember removing the packaging) and though I felt the text was a bit dry and lackluster, and there seemed to be some leaps of logic from out of nowhere, the game was entirely playable without too much issue.
SD3 is a very, very good game, though.

>>1604403
I tried to finish both 1 and 2, but the battles get so fucking repetitive. And the limited inventory space pissed me off. Nice sprite animations though.

>>1604336
I'm no translator, but wouldn't it be pretty easy to prevent most loss when translating X-Com? I can see the alien names being a bitch though.

>121 posts
>ctrl+f
Not a single mention of Der Langrisser. WTF /vr/.

>>1604634
At least 90 of those posts are off-topic, though.

>>1604613
You're not really supposed to rely on items though.

I'll give it to you that the battles do get a little repetitive, but you can get pretty overpowered too.

>>1602405
Live-A-Live is one of the best games there is on the SNES. The chapter themes are great, music is fantastic particulary the boss theme and the whole idea of the game is great. After you've played all initial chapters you even get to play a last final chapter with all the main characters from the first chapters. And ofcourse, if you find any secrets in those chapters you get to take those to the final chapter too!

>>1600337
Warsong/Langrisser
Dark Wizard (Sega CD, it's even more SEGA's Fire Emblem than SF)

>>1605832
Oh, and if you're a /m/an, check out Super Robot Wars as it's built on the same engine as Fire Emblem. The first games after 1 actually had a continuing story.

There's only a precious few actually translated, but after you play some translated you'll be able to play the rest.

>>1605840
>Super Robot Wars
>built on the same engine as Fire Emblem

Are you retarded?

>>1600520

Agreed. It's definitely a toss up between the two, the whole package in both of those games just comes together wonderfully. I'd probably go with 5, but then I have a bias, as it was my first JRPG.

>>1601058
ps1
Black/Matrix 00 & Cross
Brave Saga 1&2
Brigandine: Grand Edition
DeviceReign
FEDA 2: White Surge the Platoon
Growlanser
Saiyuki: Journey West
Seirei Hata RayBlade
Shin Masou Kishin: Panzer Warfare
Soukou Kihei Votoms
Super Tokusatsu Taisen 2001
Summon Night 1&2
TearRing Saga
Volfoss