/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1575201
The Matchmaking starts Now!

>>1575201
Yay new thread.

anyone want to try something on mamehub?

shouldn't general threads go on /vg/?

>>1575241
Can you help me get started?

>>1575243
just like the DOOM thread, right? We'd get shitposted right the fuck out of there, dude

>>1575247
http://www.mamehub.info/download
you run the bat file and wait awhile.
the neat thing is you can see the entire list of games for all those consoles, and clicking on them automatically downloads the game for you.

i haven't played anyone on it yet, but it does use the same mame options where pressing tabs lets you change controls

>>1575252
how would you compare the netplay quality to ggpo, particularly lag-wise?

>>1575252
Thanks, running the setup now.

>>1575261
Cool, it seems to have mumble integrated.

>>1575260
haven't tried netplay yet but its not hard to be better than ggpo

>>1575261
once the emu is running for the first time, it checks for roms and takes awhile.

>>1575278
>not hard to be better than ggpo
well I disagree with that. I haven't played any fighting game online with better netplay than ggpo. Supercade seemed laggier to me, even if it had more games. Someone suggested mamehub to me before, but I never tried it since there weren't really any games I wanted to play that weren't on ggpo.

Games anyone?

>>1575305
Eating atm ill play when im done

>>1575405
I saw you play juni in a3. You are that juni shitposter aren't you?

>>1575431
I thought that was fatfeels' new thing?

>>1575438
I'm talking to him on steam I'll ask him.

>>1575431
>>1575438
let's leave /fgg/ drama in /fgg/, guys.

Well I just got beer so that means I'll be ready for some matches in a few. Is it bad that probably over half the time I play fighting games, I'm drinking? I wonder if I drink because I play fighting games, or I play fighting games because I drink.

>>1575431
lol no, afaik shes a pretty popular character due to having pushblock

Willing to play a few before dinner is ready... anyone?

Anyone up for some Jojos on ggpo?

>>1575475
Sure, what game?

>>1575485
forgot to add name

pick any game and we'll play!

I just feel like playing some JoJo's Bizarre Adventure though

>>1575486
I'll leave it up to you man, I'm down to play anything.

>>1575494
kof2000? I just played it for the first time the other day.

>>1575490
I'll play when Shamwow goes to eat dinner. I've never played jojo's before, though.

wew my pic actually got used.

also ill be on in a few minutes on GGPO, gonna try out mamehub too.

>>1575243
have you seen /fgg/ ?

>>1575490
Okay I'll get on jojo's now

>>1575539
cool

>>1575243
There's a fighting game general on /vg/.

It's shit.

There's so much drama there it's not even funny. We're playing older games via online-enabled emulators, not the latest titles. I'll play Skullgirls if anyone is into it, though.

>>1575548
as it was said before its pretty much SFAE general too

wat

Finished eating anyone want to play?

>>1575572
me

>>1575573
what game?

>>1575578
down for whatever m8

>>1575543
sorry playman... I don't know if I made you mad or something. We only played like three rounds. Anyway ggs.

i'll play jojos with anyone
THEDONGLER is my ggpo tag

anyone wanna play sfa3? I'm on

>>1575583
nah just got a little bored haha

>>1575583
Don't know why you left yesterday. Wasn't trying to insult you or any thing by picking Dee Jay.

I'm up for some Garou or SFIII, if anyone is game.

>>1575591
Yeah I think I don't like jojo's very much. Sorry TheDongler.

>>1575595
I wasn't angry but I wasn't interested in dealing with that. What you were doing basically seemed to me like saying "you're doing it wrong, let me show you how you're SUPPOSED to play DeeJay" but I was just trying to have fun and learn a new character. It wasn't the first time you've purposefully mirror matched me, either, and every time it just seems like you're trying to school me at a character I'm trying to learn.

I thought I wasn't doing that bad against your guile, actually. It wasn't like I didn't take any rounds. I just wanted more rounds so I could improve. It just bothered me and seemed arrogant so I quit. I'll play you again, but I just want to play. If I want you to teach me what a character is supposed to do, I'll ask you about it. Other than that, I just want to play the game and learn for myself.

>>1575609
I'll play you in Garou.

>>1575637
I was just trying to be helpful.

>>1575678
I appreciate your helpfulness, honestly. I respect you as a player, too, and I'll ask you for advice if I want some, but sometimes I really just want to play the game. I know you've put some time in with deejay but I didn't ask for help or anything.

Really it just came across to me as disrespectful and I just wasn't having it last night. Sorry about it. If IVofRussia doesn't show up for garou soon I'll play you in ST again if you're willing.

Back!

Games anyone?

>>1575713
Well we could try playing something again, since IVofRussia isn't showing up and pisss hasn't said anything. Not sure about that lag, though. If that's netflix than that's killer, man, because we live relatively close and it was pretty bad.

Anyway I'll play whatever you want.

>>1575718
Lets play Alpha 3. I'm trying to learn that game.

>>1575725
never really played it. Give me a sec to download.

>>1575732
Alright, forget that game then. Let's play ST, sounds like you've played that one already with Piss.

just had some nice games with nubi, happy that these threads are here and i hope they stay.

>>1575740
ggs man was fun.

Balrog sucks in Alpha 3 he only has 3 normals and i swear he cant headbut, he feels unfinished.

>>1575756
Nubi, you still here?

>>1575756
i felt dirty getting you with that karin super whilst you were in mid punch

>>1575779
yeah

Anyone want to play something?

sorry shamwow it was just too laggy. I couldn't take another lag teleport out of a punish super.

>>1575903
GGs Apollo. Fun games, sorry about the terrible lag man.

Will check right now to see if someones on netflix.

>>1575905
Yeah man, they were fun but I can only take so much of that jittery stuff before quitting. It's weird because you're not that far from me. It's almost more aggravating, knowing that the ping is so low, and we should by all rights have a good connection, and then just seeing that kind of underwater gameplay.

anyone?

I'm up for Jojos Lb2 or Garou anytime

>>1575982
what's your ggpo name?

>>1576007
panda girl

Looking for a few matches of any game except Super Turbo. Never got anywhere near decent.

>>1576079
want to play alpha 3 or vsav?

>>1576079
I'll play, too, if you want.

>>1576124
>>1576104
I'll play two rounds with nubi and another two with ApolloCreed

>>1576137
well you call the game I guess.

>>1576137
ggs

>>1576141
SS5S

>>1576161
ggs

>>1576162
oh. Just got on ssvsp but I guess I missed you. sorry for leaving you hanging. Catch you another time I guess.

Still open to games if anyone wants one. Tonight is going to be a night with lots of losing and lots of alcohol.

>>1576179
apollo will be proud

SFA3 anyone soon?

>>1577186
Does Alpha 3 play like Alpha 2? I never played that version

>>1577186
I'll play if you're still around.

I'll be in the A3 room.

>>1577223
i don't really know alot about the terms in fighting games but people tend to say SFA3 is broken, but as a casual fighting fan i enjoy it more

>>1577247
ill hop on now after my coffee, 10 mins

>>1577285
Ok, I'll play you after that guy then I guess. I'm just running through the arcade version to get used to the game a little

Both Alpha 2 and Alpha 3 are broken at the highest level of play, its very unlikely you will find that level of play on GGPO.

Even though they are broken they are fun games.

>>1577307
ill play you while you are waiting if you want

>>1577336
Ok, I'll hop on

>>1577339
whats your ggpo name?

>>1577340
Naughts, I hope the ping isn't too bad

i have blisters from last night lol, the ps3 dpad kills my thumb.

my neo geo usb pad should be here during the week, even if i dont get much use of it i got it on sale on play asia for 30 euros, i checked ebay and they go for as much as 90 so its cool.

im thinking of getting a stick also

>>1577392
GGs Mar.

I actually kind of like the PS3 pad, I think it's got one of the better dpads out there. You should just save for a stick though imo, it's well worth it in the long run.

>>1577343
ggs, dont actually know what to do against Chuns cr.rh with Juni, shame about the lag.

>>1577421
yeah i heard the wwe madcatz sticks are okay for entry level stuff, gonna see if i can find one on ebay.

>>1577434
ggs, I wish we could've played more but that lag was really annoying me. I guess our connection is too far away to work.

Chun seems watered down in Alpha 3 but that's understandable since she was too good in A2, she's still fun in Alpha 3 so I'll keep using her. I can't tell if it's the lag or not though but are antiairs weaker in this game or something? Because st. fierce or cr. roundhouse rarely hit you out of the air

>>1577447
Looked like you were doing a lot of anti airs to late on my side so possibly lag

>>1577473
Ok that's good to know then, a lot of Juni's stuff was pretty tricky to block. I always just assumed she was just Cammy with the same exact moveset since I never owned Alpha 3 but I guess that's where most of Decapre's stuff came from

im back

>>1577545
Up for some A3 matches again?

>>1577564
playing with nubi atm

>>1577614
ggs man

>>1577708
i really love r.mika now

Ok is there a way to block people on GGPO, this Turkey_CANISI guy is constantly spamming me with challenges then forcing the game to hang. every time he does it i need to restart GGPO to play people again.

>>1577735
Can't you just click his name and press ignore?

>>1577739
nope, i can decline his challenge but he just keeps spamming it, seems to be no way to outright ignore him other than sit in AFK mode.

>>1577735
There is a little icon next to challenge player/accept challenge that has a smiley face with a red and white line through it.

>>1577881
Yeah, I use it all the time to ignore all the shit-talking Australians

>>1577887
I just ignore everyone with ping over 100ms unless I know them.

im back

>>1578014
What do you want to play and what's your GGPO name?

>>1578020
anything bar ST, marclar619

>>1578029
Ok, Alpha 2?

>>1578034
sure thing

Games anyone?

>>1578035
ggs

>>1576179
I think it would be easier if we had each other on Steam. We should start the GGPO Steam Group while we're at it.

>>1578342
That would be easier, but I never use steam, personally. Maybe a skype group?

Or we could invade pisss' ventrilo.

>>1578364
What about just an IRC channel?

That would probably be the easiest

>>1578342
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrFighters

>>1578370

http://www.rizon.net/chat

#vr_fg

>>1578412
empty so far, except for me. Any input on channel name? I suppose #vr_fg is fine but it isn't exactly the most aesthetically pleasing name.

Joined the steam group, anyone playing anything?

Games anyone?

>>1578675
play me in vsav

just to warn you, I sorta know what im doing

>>1578697
That's fine, I don't mind getting destroyed in vsav again.

See me in mvc1 fatfeels, no cheater buttons.

>>1578746
The controls in mvc are so lenient that I don't even think 3p/3k buttons give an advantage...

>>1578720
ggs, but dude i have to ask, are your ports forwarded correctly, i always get some weird lag against you.

ggs nubi. I really should learn how to do basic bnb combos.

Games anyone?

>>1578828
http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Vampire_Savior
Good place to learn basic Vsav stuff.

Just don't look at Victor's hitboxes, its depressing :c

>>1578826
I just double checked and they look correct.

It's weird because you're not the first person to point this out. I was playing with Apollo last night and we had a good ping, but in game it was lagging and stuttering. As far as I know nobody else at my place is using the internet. So I don't know :\

Holy shit CPU T Hawk is so annoying

>>1578791
Well you are completely wrong because some infinites are much easier with them.

>>1578868
give an example

>>1578834
Jedah looks pretty cool, I might learn him.

>>1578860
Ya he's pretty much impossible to crossup.

>>1578874
Wolverines dash infinite.

>>1578876
what are the inputs for it?

>>1578879
It involves a dash. You have to hit all 3p at once to dash and doing it manually is much harder than using a macro. There's a bunch of information on how the macros change the game just look it up yourself.

just played so much samsho my wrist hurts and I can't do DP motions at all lol

how's the qanba q1 for a beginner stick

also ill be back on ggpo in like 25 mins

>>1579116
its perfect for a beginner stick

>>1579116
Just get the one with real sanwa parts. Don't buy a cheaper one or you will just have to buy another later.

>>1575756
He probably was unfinished, I remember he played differently by default in the console versions, but there as also an alternate "arcade" version you could select.

looking for challengers in jojos.

Anyone want to play street fighter or mvc?

still not sure if this would be unblockable or not

>>1579454
>akuma
wouldn't surprise me if it was

>>1579718
He's fun to mess around with in training mode to see what he can do. Some of his moves have strange properties like the way all his specials juggle.

>>1579734
Duuuude, we really need a retro webm thread.
These combo vid are awesome.

>>1579741
I made a bunch of them just for fun. The combos in ST really aren't as crazy as some of the other games but they do have enormous damage.

Chun one I have done before in an actual match since you can store super. I'm not sure how viable this Guile one would be.

So I see most of you are using GGPO but Mamehub that an anon earlier suggested is pretty damn convinient, would any of you consider using it?

There are quite a few fighting games I would love to try and get better at but they're rarely played at anything other than the highest levels.

Waku Waku 7 and Last Blade 2 specifically but I know a bunch of other complex and fun fighters that nobody really touches.

>>1579805
i like waku waku 7 but it is pretty broken.

Hey guys, I'm looking for a game where one of the stages has indians lined up watching with a canyon in the background or something. I played it with a mate yesterday but I forgot the name.

anyone want to play 3S ?
i can never get into a game on ps3 this time of day

any ssvsp kids on? my body is ready

>>1579805
How well is the netcode in mamehub and what games can it run.

If it can reliably play Bloody Roar 1 or 2 without desyncs id be willing to give it a shot.

>>1580962
The netcode is great and it can probably run Bloody Roar just fine. The thing is it relies on MESS for Playstation emulation and unfortunately the system requirements are pretty high for that.

>>1579750
the guile four piece combo is legendary bro so yeah it's viable lol. doing it twice in a row in an actual match situation probably would never happen tho, it's usually used as a punish on dizzy near the corner

>>1581002
It was more viable in earlier versions of sf2. ST is pretty fast so you'd basically have to predict a bad fireball.

Is anyone else interested in the irc at all? I've been in there since yesterday only one other guy came in (and it was when I was asleep so he left soon after).

>>1581596
it seems really unnecessary, irc is just for circlejerks any way

>>1581716
I could say the same thing about steam. IRC is just a nice communal thing, really. Guess I won't bother staying in the channel, though.

anyone want to play a game?

>>1581737
ne1 up for sfa3?

>>1581859
eh i guess

i'll be in there

ggs

I'll play alpha 2 sometime but I really don't like 3. Feels too much like an anime game.

>>1581950
It is an anime game. Maybe you'd have more fun with it if you treated it more like it was Marvel vs Capcom except with a street fighter-only roster and just one character per player.

Anyone want to play some games? I'll play whatever.

>>1582005
I've played it quite a bit in the past when it was on ps2 along with the other alphas. I just hadn't played it in a few years, it's just not for me. No big deal.

Do you guys know how to get MvC2 working on MAME? I really want to play the game, but haven't been able to get it to work.

I'd play the Dreamcast version but my computer is too bad to emulate it.

>>1582351
It doesn't work on mame. Mame doesn't have good NAOMI emulation. Demul can emulate naomi, though, so you can actually play the arcade version on the dreamcast emulator, I think.

anyone on?

>>1582425
Yeah, I can't sleep. What do you want to play?

>>1582432
anything cept ST

>>1582460
Why don't you like ST?

Anybody up for some 3rd strike on mamehub?

I'm still really new and I'm finding it more lenient than the other game I want to learn KoF 2k2.

No idea which version is most popular though, JP\EU\US? I've seen people play most games on JP I'm just not sure why.

>>1583639
>mamehub
Just use ggpo like the other 99% of people who play it man.

>>1583672

I would but this is so much easier and supports every game rather than 20 or something.

Also I can just click from an inbuilt list and get the correct ROM rather than spending ages finding the exact rom that's correct for GGPO.

I get it if other people don't want to download the program just to play with me but this is so amazingly convenient I'm never using anything else again for arcade.

>>1583681
ggpo isn't hard to use or find roms for at all. You can use whatever you want but the competition is on ggpo and 3soe psn/xbl

>>1583681
fightanvidya.com/games
found your correct ggpo roms

>>1582418
So I managed to get the BIOS setup, but apparently there's something wrong with my ROM and I can't find a working version.

None of you would happen to have one would you?

>>1583865
For demul or mame? Like I said it doesn't work with mame. I've never gotten demul to work with anything because I use linux, so no advice there.

>>1583872
For Demul, but I think I found one. 2 hour download so I guess if it doesn't work I'll have to keep searching.

>>1583878
Not the guy, but I honestly think setting up PCSX2 and an MvC2 iso is faster and easier than getting these naomi boards to emulate.

>>1583887
I know I don't have the processing power for that.

I'm worried I won't even be able to run it on Naomi. This computer is complete garbage. It's just my only option right now.

>>1583892
Then get the Dreamcast MvC2 and run it on NullDC, it's the fastest dreamcast emulator.

Demul requires Directx 11 and SSE4 and other modern stuff you're most likely to be missing.

I'm up for some sfa3!
Anyone here?

>>1583887
ps2 version is not arcade perfect

Get dreamcast or arcade (naomi) version. It's not going to work on mame.

Anyone for some third strike on GGPO? Posting from the UK.

anyone playing anything?

>>1585667
how do you get third strike on there I cant get any of my third strike roms to work.

>>1585983
Download the mandatory file for SF3
http://fightanvidya.com/games
plop in tin the rom folder, no need to extract.

ssvsp anybody?

>>1586617
i can play
which emulator?

>>1586625
ggpo

>>1586661
cool
i made you an image

anyone on ?

>>1582580
i just didn't want to play it at that particular time

Anyone want to play anything?

>>1586669
thanks
and ggs i just can't play another round atm gotta take a break

>>1586808
you still on ?
sorry was making this quick render for a course interview tomorrow, not 100% accurate but the interviewers hardly played an mvs

Hey guy that wanted to play mvc2 on an emulator. Get nulldc, it uses a lot less processing power than demul, I've been messing around with it. Currently grinding for points to unlock characters so I set fierce, assist 1 and 2 on autofire and it's working out nicely.

>>1587008
yeah im still here

>>1587042
Cant you just hack it to unlock everything?

>>1587045
ill hop on sfa3 if you like?

>>1587042
holy shit i have this for DC and never knew there were unlockable characters, i just assumed the points were for costumes

>>1587062
in the room

>>1587069
nigga what

>>1587069
There's 56 total.

>>1587052
I guess you could.

>>1587062
ggs man

>>1587080
>>1587076
fuck, i never knew this, i've only played through it a handful of times though.

lol me and nubi got a double KO

>>1587148
This is just a thing I'm curious about: how does the game count a double KO? As in, is it the street fighter 2 way where no one is given a round for it? Or is it the sf4 way where you are both given a round for a double KO? Just wondering at what point that got changed in the series.

>>1587156
Alpha 3 it just gives the round to no one.

3S Double KO is great, NPCs come and vote on the winner.

>>1587160
That's interesting. How is the winner determined in 3s? I mean, is the npc vote based on any thing or is it determined by parries/who played a certain way etc?

>>1587168
I have no idea, my guess is its similar to how the game rates you after the match.

>>1587168
first attack priority and stun time is randomized, but in cases of incidental button presses and first attack score on both sides, it pre-chooses a winner before the round starts.

>>1587262
lol how do you spam block?

>>1587275
well if a Hawaiian throws a can of pork at you...

>>1587275
You can't. It's just scrubby complaining like the people who think Sagat is "spamming" when really his character design revolves around controlling space with fireballs and it takes quite a bit of understanding of spacing and when to throw each speed fireball to do it properly.

>>1587571
pffft
>no o.sagat is all skill I swear! people only complain because they suck, not because he is disproportionately better than the majority of the cast!

>>1587584
Who mentioned old sagat?

Old Sagat is definitely better than most of the cast and dumb. I'd say that Boxer and Claw are about equally as dumb or close though.

Boxer:
-ridiculously high priority normals and specials
-untechable throw that leads to walk under grab loop
-lots of invincibility on his headbutt, very hard to cross him up if it's not a safe jump
-high damage
-best super in the entire game
-incredibly fast dash punches which are also absurdly safe
-ability to low rush and still have charge for headbutt

Claw:
-really fast jump speed, difficult to anti air
-fast, long range pokes
-abusive wall dive mixup after knockdown where you are more or less forced to guess which way to block
-option select with the wall dive where he can either throw you (even if you block correctly) or hit you with normal wall dive
-option select with super where he will either super you or normal wall dive you (super cannot be wasted because of this)
-slide is very abuseable on some characters
etc. etc.

O. Gat is definitely dumb, but the other top tiers are just as dumb. Sim takes a little bit more thought and work to do his OP stuff, but he still dominates most of the other characters and some people consider him the best character in the game. Not to mention Claw and Boxer both have less bad matchups than O. Gat (claw has none.)

my interview went fine, now the funny thing is since being out of that college a year they now have a mame cab with neogeo art on the side of it, what weird co-incidence that i modeled the mvs for the interview

anyone one.
here's a maki gif i made a few minutes ago.

>>1588307
Yeah, what do you want to play?

>>1588307
>>1588317
You still here or?

>>1588341
i am now

>>1588420
Ok, wanna 3s?

>>1588423
cool just gotta dl it first.

>>1588423
ready now

>>1588436
Aright I'll be in the 3s room in a second

>>1588438
uh shit wait, you must not mean GGPO because i can't see a room for 3s here

>>1588439
No I mean GGPO, the 3s room is called Street Fighter Tres

SFA3 anyone?

>>1588491
I'll play if you're still around

>>1588523
cool ill hop on now

>>1575756

Arcade Balrog is limited and headbutt is limited to reversal only EXCEPT in V-ISM mode. Console Balrog has more normals and whatnot.

ggs mar thx for the quick set.

anyone want to play?

>>1588795
I'll play in a few minutes.

Do you want to play mvc1 or st?

>>1588849
ST, never really got into MvC

Anybody up for BR?

anyone here ?

>>1588993
BR?

>>1589008
Breaker's Revenge

gg have to go smoke a cigarette

ggs pisss

KOF anyone?

>>1589038
Ill give KoF another shot, which one?

>>1589040
any one is good, you can pick

>>1589041
allright lets try 2002

Nubi, you were smart to go with dee jay against honda near the end. Honda has stored ochio so he can punish bison with a free ochio every time he tries leg press, psycho crusher etc (I messed a few up.) Dee jay v is honda is 8-2 or so dee jay because he excels at keeping honda out with his good fireball and normals.

>>1589052
aight kool

>>1589057
Don't praise counterpickers. Praise people who stick to their guns.

>>1589120
I don't think he intentionally counterpicked. He had been rotating the same 3 characters or so as we had been playing.

games anyone?

>>1589215
Eating, give me about 30 min and ill play.

you still around shamwow?

>>1589316
Yeah

>>1589320
Cool what you want to play?

>>1589336
Down for some ST?

>>1589341
sure

im always up for samurai shodown 5 special, on any netplay emulator

anyone on?

>>1579805
>MAME
runs like shit for me usually so I'll stick with GGPO

>>1589363
oh that's a cool new image for the next general... I'll be sure to use it if I make the next one, too.

>>1582351
>Computer too bad to emulate Dreamcast
>Try to run NAOMI games on MAME

*sonic boom*
*ahh ow*
*sonic boom*
*ahh ow*
*sonic boom*
*ahh ow*
*sonic boom*
*ahh ow*
continues for 2 minutes

guile wins

lel

>>1589353

I was so disappointed with that game. It had such a detailed dodge and parry system but I hear that in most games you're not likely to use any of it.

I also find the slowdown on attacks to feel weird. I love the game though, just really wish I could look forward to a new version.

>>1589394
doesn't DeeJay say "Max Out" not "ahh ow?"

>>1589406
yeah but after a while im hearing "sonic boot", "sonic boob" yet " ahh ow" consistently

>>1589397
forward roll gets use to close the gap during fireball zoning. backroll has more invincibility than backdashes but its better to not risk it and just block instead. the low dodge only gets used in the throw game and the hop dodge is situational. how often you see the weapon catch parry depends on the player but people only try it when bating heavy attacks, so they should be rare.

I love the slowdown powerful moves get on hit, but you might want to try ss6.

>>1589394
Scanlines works while you play on ggpo?

GG's nubi. Fun games man. I really enjoyed the guile vs bison matchup.

>>1589394
I was intentionally turtling and projectile spamming on a few rounds there against DJ. That's not how I usually use guile though.

Also what are people using for ggpo's delay setting?

>>1589480
GG's man i really need to pick a character and settle with it on ST

>>1589469
i've been using them the whole time since these threads started and no problem

>>1589487
Out of all the characters you chose, I had the toughest time against Bison. You should stick with him, he's the hardest to learn out of all the chars you used but he's the most rewarding imo.

Landing Bisons TOD is always fun.

anyone still up for anything?

>>1589517
I'm down to play anything.

>>1589526
wanna try SF vs x-men ? it has cool music.

>>1589534
Sure

What's the secret to using Gallon/Talbain? It seems like I always get wrecked when I play as him. I can't figure out how to use his main fireball move effectively since it works the opposite way of a normal fireball does by closing the distance instead of adding to it.
>inb4 git gud

>>1589557
poke with him a lot

you play gallon by mashing jump in hp/throw os, dash/hop lk, chain combos, and tick throwing. learning how to combo into beast cannon or that ex slash thing is optional to do good with him.

>>1589534
GG's mar. I've not played xvsf in ages... I can't even air combo ffs.

>>1589589
i've only played against cpu on my modded xbox.
idk the game just has a nice feel to it.

>>1589483
0, any thing else is hard for me to reversal consistently. If it's unplayable on 0, then it's unplayable and the ping is too high.

>>1589780
pisss... you know that you're supposed to set it the same as your opponent, right? And that the ggpo community standard is to use 1? So some portion of the lag you experience with people might not actually be because of connection issues.

>>1590060
I'm not setting it any higher than 0. It starts to affect my gameplay because reversals are 1 frame and I learned to play offline. What makes you think the "ggpo community standard is 1?" Most of the people I know who play ST set it to 0.

>>1590068
Because the GGPO forums say the standard is 1. That's because you don't know what someone has it set to, and 0 is optimal, but if someone has theirs set to 2 and you have yours set to 0, it will be unplayable, so 1 is the best compromise. 0 also doesn't take much advantage of the good parts of ggpo netcode.

>>1590094
>if someone has theirs set to 2 and you have yours set to 0, it will be unplayable
I have never heard this before. Also who said the standard was 1? Ponder or just some guy on the ggpo forum?

>>1590094
>but if someone has theirs set to 2 and you have yours set to 0,
Is this why i cant connect to some people but i can others?

>>1590121
I think this is wrong, I've used ggpo for years and been able to connect (and have good connections against) people that used different delay settings than me. I don't see any thing about this on the official site or on the forums.

Anyone want to play Marvel vs Street Fighter on MAMEHub? Complete noob here.

>>1590167
Why don't you play it on GGPO

How is Battle Tryst ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaTno8iYVU

>>1590118

Even if you set yours to 0 and someone elses sets it to 2 for a more stable connection it's going to try and meet in the middle somewhere at 1. Problem is doing it this way increases the chances of skips and desyncs. 1 is pretty much the standard on GGPO and kind of has been for a very long time. It results in the most stable connections with the fewest oddities.

>>1590370
1 is the default but if you ask in any room most people will say they are set at 0

>>1590396

0 is fine if you're both getting pings under 100ms but anything close to that should be at 1ms. After all GGPO is designed to be playable across further distances while still having no slowdowns/teleports. e.g Japan to US and Aus and Aus to US West and vice versa.

>>1590403

>1ms

Eh you know what i meant, 1 smoothing.

So, to those of you who play 3s on GGPO often, what would you say the level of play usually is?

Not to sound full of myself but I've been learning this game for about 4 days and I've only seen one player so far who's completely wiped the floor with me.

All I'm doing is grabbing and using pokes at the right times, mainly Hugo\Chun Li. What's the deal? Whenever I try to play KoF there's nothing but grand masters who 100% me the second they land a poke. I assumed 3s would be the same.

Might as well ask here. Where can I get a .chd for cps-2 games? Mame is being a bitch and won't let me get my MvC on

>>1590403
I only play people under 100ms unless I know them and am just playing casuals. If I have to add input delay to make it playable then it's not worth it to me. At least for ST, other games I'm not serious about I don't care as much.

>>1590713
Most people on ggpo have been playing a good while and most scrubby players get blown up and either leave or stay and get better.

>>1590370
>1 is pretty much the standard on GGPO and kind of has been for a very long time.
You keep saying this, but that isn't true in my experience and I haven't seen any thing to make me think otherwise.

>>1590713
3rd Strike on GGPO is pretty much a ghost town of what it used to be, all of the good players either moved on or just went to 3sOE because 3rd Strike on GGPO pc is pretty buggy

why is /v/ so obsessed with 3s? that game sucks

>>1591167
I don't know, Daigo parry maybe. Game is trash imo, it degenerates into shuffling back and forth at mid range whiffing pokes and trying to land short short xx super. Not to mention it's horribly unbalanced and fireballs are practically worthless because of the silly parry system.

>>1591179
Don't you like Alpha 2?

That game's balance is probably just as bad or worse than 3rd Strike

>>1591181
I like alpha 2 but I find it a lot less boring than 3s. It's balance isn't great though. I think Super Turbo and Hyper Fighting are the best. Then A2, then I guess sf4, then at the bottom a3 and 3s.

>>1591190
>>1591179
3rd strike isn't boring. You just don't understand it. You're trying to play it like ST or something, but it is one of the least ST-like SF games. If the players are GOOD it very rarely ends up like you're talking about. That's how beginner or intermediate players play. Good players know they can be aggressive because they can parry any counterattack and can parry in the air, provided they are good enough to predict it, so a lot of the time it is about forcing your opponents in to situations where you have a pretty good idea what they'll do, so you can parry it and continue the offense.

ST is all about controlling space. 3s is not really about controlling space, but more about knowing your opponent and having all the tools necessary to win in the mind game. In ST, you can know that someone is going to do something that you'll just be forced to block or wait out. In 3s, if you correctly predict it, you can parry it and punish it.

You probably think 3s is all about sitting out of range and walking back and forth because that's how YOU play, and other players on ggpo respond to how you play. You play ultra-defensive fireball game characters mostly and 3s just isn't about that.

Play Remy. Maybe you'd like the game more.

>>1591207
I just don't like the game man. I've played it quite a bit. I've seen top level people play it too and it still looks boring. Just a preference.

>>1591218
Yeah but you'll talk shit about it. I can't see how anyone could think 3s was MORE boring that ST. Equally boring, maybe. ST is just too much fireball spam and trying to get around fireball spam.

>>1591223
Why do you care if I don't like 3s? I don't care if you don't like ST.

>>1591227
dont discredit it then.

i'll play anybody in 3s. all i know is ken, hugo, and a bit of dudley

>>1591128

>You keep saying this, but that isn't true in my experience and I haven't seen any thing to make me think otherwise.

Did you use GGPO since its original alpha? Originally no such feature did exist until GGPO was starting to use Adobe Air as part of the client which was not the case with clients 28.6 alpha and earlier.

The smoothing feature was added by 002 and suggested to Ponder accepted it because it solved some of the issues of stability and jerky skips as long as players adjusted on a relatively accurate number for the distance. Everyone since then has more or less been using it on smoothing 1 because its the default and some people can't be bothered mucking around and testing with players to see what the optimum smoothing should be. You can put it to 0 sure when you get a really good connection and you're not going to notice a difference otherwise. But if you intend to play say a JP player from US West or an EU player from US East you're going to have to put the smoothing up or you'll have more stuff teleporting around the place and not being frame consistent even if it appears like you're both not getting lag and the game is running consistently at 60fps and not lagging. Generally you want to have smoothing 1 for 100ms or less of ping you're up against. The highest i've ever played was smoothing 2 to Japan and that was with a 200ms average ping, 2 frames of input lag but it was a stable game with no frame loss whatsoever and better than losing like 5-10 frames of animation randomly. But as you said you don't really play against other players internationally so you won't have to really worry about this fact and quite lucky, ST scene in my country is more or less dead or dying so I can only manage a connection to US West or Japan if there's nobody in my country online.

Sorry about the tl;dr GGPO history thing.

>>1591297
what country?

>>1591306

Australia. Also if that Vette guy is still trolling the ST room please ignore him. I can't believe he's still doing that after all these years

>>1591316
To be completely honest, I've yet to see an Australian player who WASN'T trolling the chat. I've honestly thought about just pre-emptively setting Australians to ignore. Sorry, though, since you seem like a cool Australian player. What's your ggpo name and what games do you usually play?

>>1591297
Nah I wasn't on ggpo back when it first came out, I played offline with a small group of friends, wish I had been on ggpo because I would be better by now if I had started on there earlier. I do make concessions sometimes if it's a very good player or a friend and turn up the delay but it really really bugs me for some reason. It just makes all my timing feel off. I notice when I play HDR classic mode that it has some additional input delay (i think like 8 frames on ps3 version) and it's very noticeable.

>>1591324

>To be completely honest, I've yet to see an Australian player who WASN'T trolling the chat.

I don't blame you and it fills me with deep shame to see it so on GGPO. I usually play ST as Maximum_Cheese but I've played 3S, A2 and the odd Savior, MSH and Breakers Revenge but honestly I haven't played on GGPO in close to about maybe a year because I got a bit old and was lacking in time. Also my stick seems to have a faulty button which i'm not sure on whether to bother fixing or getting another stick or even bothering at all. Happens to be an important button too, the MP button.

>>1591327

Yeah HDR also has smoothing options as well just like GGPO that you can adjust.

Early GGPO had a neat little feature where it would auto upload all matches played to the site and you could search and watch the match replays later. It was only for one game back then which was Alpha 2, but back then that was the ONLY game on GGPO.

>>1591351
I'm talking about the default lag on hdr even playing offline.

The only people I really hate on ggpo are brazillians. About a year ago I just started blocking people with ping over 100ms because they would spam me with challenges and once you get high enough it becomes harder to react to a lot of stuff and a lot of people on ggpo really know how to take advantage of that.

>>1591369
Brazilians especially because lord knows they've never had a good connection in their lives.

>>1591369

>I'm talking about the default lag on hdr even playing offline.

Oh that, yeah there's some oddities with it. Maybe it's why people prefer to play with original sprites in tourneys.

>The only people I really hate on ggpo are brazillians. About a year ago I just started blocking people with ping over 100ms because they would spam me with challenges and once you get high enough it becomes harder to react to a lot of stuff and a lot of people on ggpo really know how to take advantage of that.

Oddly enough some Korean players do that too, you'd think they'd be more well mannered or something. I think all the Brazilians are too busy playing Alpha 2 or Alpha 3 possibly KOF as well on GGPO last time I checked but GGPO is a free service and Brazilians will be Brazilians. Both nationalities are also highly suspicious with their execution ability online that people have suspected of using macros. This one Korean Honda player I versed was always getting reversal buttsplash through my meaty Yoga Fire as Dhalsim. Except every time he did it he was in the "on fire" animation when you get hit by one but somehow was still always getting a reversal buttsplash everytime. Yeah that wasn't suspicious at all.

>>1591405
Yeah that seems very suspicious. I'm sure you know about lastscene?

>>1591395
one time i was playing exteel and it was full of BRs. I said something along the lines of BRs being really scummy in general chat and I was DDoS'd for a whole day lol

>>1591484
They like to pick blanka and do laggy rolls into tick throws and then beep the coins constantly. Fuck brazillians.

>>1591495
Blanka is "from" Brazil (sort of). He's a national icon. That's why Brazilians all tailor their playstyle to emulate Blanka, i.e. annoying and gimmicky

>>1591504
blanka looks like every brazillian i've ever seen.

>>1589557

Only use light kicks/punches. Overwhelm your opponent with speedy pokes.

Or just fireball then nunchuck when you're up close.

>>1591519
But his jumping fierce is so good and his standing roundhouse can be used as an option select. Can't forget those.

>>1591471

>Yeah that seems very suspicious. I'm sure you know about lastscene?

Korean guy who floods the chat? He's still around?

>>1591564
Oh yeah. Guy that plays Akuma. Known for such catchphrases "_____......you have always lost to me!" "my akuma = strongest devil!" "I am not human!" etc.

>>1591572

Good lord after all these years he's still around doing the same shit? You'd think he'd get bored or someshit. He's been doing that shit for almost 5 years now.

>>1591617
Oh yeah, he still does that same exact shit. He isn't on as much any more but he shows up every few weeks and causes a big scene. He always likes to take pictures of him perfecting people and spam pictures of it in the chat. "haha too easy PERFECT ahhahahha FUN" You know the drill. He still resets the game every time he loses too.

>>1591167
Are you kidding /v/ sucks SF4's cock all the time not 3S

games anyone?

>>1591895

>>>/v/241993382

kek

>>1591926
>21:31:01
Take your sorry ass with you. No one will care what happens to you.

>>1591926
Oh gee i wonder if you just made that.

Now watch all the butthurt /v/ babys shit there pants in rage and call you a "capdrone" or you dared to say any SF game was better than SF4

3s is the most /v/ sf casuals love it because they think parry is some "deep" mechanic and you get to be a special snowflake saying it's your favorite sf

>>1591965
You mean SF4, its about as casual a SF game can get and /v/ only plays flavor of the month games.

>>1591975
3s is the most fedora hipster sf and you know it

>>1591965
Even a MK thread is doing better than the 3s thread, i don't know where this idea of "/v/ loves 3s" came from

>>1591975
sf is so casual in it's option/select "hur you don't actually need to know how to do motions to get specials out :3" that it makes you worse at non-casual fighting games
i went on a sf4 stint for a while and tried going back to guilty gear. I was absolute shit at it suddenly, rewired casual-as-shit reflexes couldn't churn out a perfect DP after an IAD backwards for dat pressure

>>1591995
sf4 is really really bad and casualized, I agree. One of the things I hate the most is the emphasis on really difficult combos and 1p execution tests over player vs player mind games. Then there is the stupid set play knockdown guessing game shit. Not that okizeme isn't important in many games, it's just not as retarded as it is in sf4. Try telling this to any of the people in fgg though.

>>1591987
Liking 3S has become far to mainstream for hipsters now, 3S is like sooo 2012, get with the times man.

report and hide

Hey fatfeels, steam isn't working for some reason. Want to play marbles?

>>1592006
I wouldn't mind it if it half as much as I do if it didn't literally make me worse at fighting games I actually care about being good at

>>1592078
I have this problem, i play on SF4 with friends then when i go back to other games i can hardly do basic inputs.

>>1592056
k i'll wait like 5 mins after this post

>>1592167
Sorry didn't see that I'll be there in a sec.

>>1592010
report and hide what?

what did i miss?

some guy said 3s was the most fedora sf and this guy got mad and reported it

>>1593342
ebin

anyone up for some games ? anything cept darkstalkers

>>1593359
I'll play super turbo.

>>1593391
he reminds me of this korean on ylilauta who types exactly like that but just rants about jjokbari shit dieing in fires

very nice piss

lastscene always cracks me up. I wish he didn't pick turbo 3 though.

He picks Ryu sometimes and I beat him with Guile and he reset the machine and said AHAHAHA YOUR GUILE ALWAYS LOST TO MY RYU! MY RYU = STRONGEST HUMAN LEVEL MY AKUMA = STRONGEST DEMON LEVEL!"

>>1593429
you wanna play some ST , im still not very good but im down for playing

lol

Games anyone?

>>1593509
yep, what game? cant stay too long though

>>1593437
Yeah in a little while, sorry I was playing karkrat vantas.

>>1593524
Alpha 3?

>>1593524
ggs mar.

>>1593656
im never good against rolento

even in final fight 2.

speaking of which, i wish maki was put in the recent SF titles

>>1593693
Well she was in that PSP port of Alpha 3 that was released years ago... Capcom hasn't completely forgotten about her at least.

Games anyone?

Trying to get on ggpo.net, says it's not available. Had a friend try too and he's getting the same result. http://www.isup.me/ Is saying it's up, though.

Can someone else give it a try?

>>1594013
Works for me.

>>1594020
Well shit, I wonder what the problem could be. Really wanted to play with some friends. Any one know of mirrors for the download?

>>1594047
Search for "ggpo-build-030.zip" on google.

>>1594052
You still have to make a forum account, though, right?

>>1594057
Yes

>>1594059
>>1594047
Well I think a mirror wouldn't be very helpful then, at least if you didn't already have an account.

I cannot get mamehub to work at all. I've forwarded the proper ports and everything, and it's slowing my computer down every time I run it.

Any help?

>>1594549

Try directly opening the emulator, it's in a folder marked Emulator in the mamehub root directory.

If it lags there you might be able to fiddle with the .ini for multi-core support or some video options.

>>1594576
The .ini file looks like a mess, also I'm guessing you're referring to those two batch files in that folder? That didn't work either.

Anyone up for some KoF98 or 2k2 on GGPO?
I'm not very good, but love to play old-school KoF.

>>1594642
Sure, let's do 98 first.

>>1594646
Cool, on my way.

Games anyone?

Anyone around want to play?

>>1595543

I'll play if you like, but I'm very bad.

And I live in Norway.

>>1595546
Cool im not great myself, what game?

>>1595550

ST, Jojo's, I don't know, whatever you want.

>>1595551
Alright lets try JoJo's iv never really played that

>>1595551
ggs, was JoJo's is fun.

KoF2000 anyone?

>>1595692
I could never get into KoF, iv tried multiple times but i just find it boring, i love Garou though.

anyone want some fights

>>1596090
I'll play if you're still around.

>>1596181
im back now, what you wanna play?

>>1596315
Let's play Alpha 3.

>>1596349
cool gimme 10 minutes

>>1596181


sorry i was trying to fix my phone, imma just watch you and nubi for a bit

>>1596437
No worries, had a pretty fun set with nubi.

I can play if you're still around.

I'm pretty bad, but would anyone wanna play some Garou?
I'd also be up for some Last Blade 2

>>1596646
I'll play some Garou.

>>1596602
ggs earlier, wish i could have recorded that bug it was hilarious, i was laughing so hard i could hardly breathe.

>>1596646
I play Garou if your up for a game some time

>>1596651
Sorry, I'm fucking retarded and this is going to take awhile; I'll probably just try again tomorrow after I fix my shit.

>>1596732
No worries man.

>>1596697
GG's nubi. I almost forgot I was playing garou there for a second, felt more like I was playing SF lol.

>>1596796
I hate the way the game makes me put the code in for Kain every single time.

>>1596823

There's a dipswitch for that I think, but I'm not sure if FBA is as nice as MAME for playing with that.

If you've ever played JoJo's the custom character code is murder to put in everytime so I use the switch through MameHub.

>>1596796
I think Garou is probably the most SF-like SNK game that I can think of... I usually recommend it if I know an SF player who is interest in KoF games or something.

>>1596823
Yeah, why SHOULD you have to enter a code in order to play a top-tier hidden boss character?

>>1596823
do you play top tier in every game?
>q bee
>claw, boxer
>kain

>>1596839
Yes

>>1596831
Boss Kain is not the same as playable Kain

>>1596849
why? can't win without a top tier?

>>1596849
Playable Kain is still top-tier, and is literally a hidden boss character, so I don't see the problem. If you're going to play a top-tier hidden boss character in an arcade game, you're going to put up with entering the code (and the code isn't even that bad). That's just how it goes.

Note that I don't have a problem with you playing Kain, just complaining about the code.

shoutouts to all my O. players in ST

>>1596854
I also play Kakyoin in JoJo's and Omega Red in XCOTA

>>1596864
Either way he's not as good as Kevin, i wouldn't mind so much but i keep forgetting the game has no memory on the character select screen.

>>1596854
>>1596839
A lot of people in the west tier whore because they are lazy and want to pick the braindead ez mode characters for an easy win. I just pick the characters I like playing the most and they're usually mid tier so still viable with some bad matchups. I feel like I won because of my own skill and not just my character choice but I do pick top tiers in really broken games like mvc because if you don't you just get stomped on.

>>1596879
Most of the top tier characters are the most fun to play as, Qbee is one of the most fun characters i have ever played in a fighting game.

Kain, i play because A) i like charge characters and B) i fucking loves moves that leave shit on screen.
Same reason i play Urien in 3S, pretty sure Juni is not top tier either for everyone crying.

>>1596896
I'm not crying, I just don't really understand why people do that. I don't really give a shit in st because I can still win against most people who tierwhore and counterpick. Although, I don't feel bad pulling out old sagat or something if someone wants to do that.

>>1596914
Don't lie, you don't even feel bad pulling out O. Sagat on admitted noobs. I've seen you do it multiple times.

To your credit, at least you f3 after four or five wins in a row.

>>1596945
kof2000 anyone?

>>1596945
>>1596914
cmon goys i thought we were gonna keep these threads casual and drama free

>>1596945
I usually only use him if the person is picking claw or boxer or something. In serious matches I almost always only use Guile.

Can anyone recommend a decent fighting game that favours mind-games more-so that execution?

Not a slight against execution heavy fighters, I'm just terrible at that, but when it comes to faking out the enemy I'm pretty good and I have most fun when doing so.

So far I only really have SFIII, everything else I've tried has 90% combo strings or is incredibly fast paced, not sure if there's a game I'm overlooking.

>>1596953
you're right, my bad

>>1596961
super turbo

>>1596953
idk it's not bothering me that he said that, wouldn't really consider it "drama" or upsetting

>>1596961
Try Samurai Shodown V Special. It isn't very combo-heavy. Almost all the special moves are just quarter-circles or dps. It's more about spacing and trying to feel out your opponent and trying to get them to make mistakes.

Games anyone?

>>1596965
I've tried to like ST but the heavy reliance on projectiles made fights quite boring for me and repetitive. Thank you, though.
>>1596967
I wasn't sure what kind of game this was but it sounds like what I'm looking for, I'll give it a try, thank you.

>>1596961
I would say Virtua Fighter, but there's not really any easy way to play that online. I wish Toronto still had a VF scene...

>>1596979
Last Blade 2? Not much projectiles there, and theres only 3 attack buttons.

>>1596975
MadeManG74 here, I'm trying to fix my stick atm, if I get it working i'll be up for some KoF!

Not sure what the issue is, I'm trying different USB ports to see if it'll work. Apparantly PS360 has problems with USB3.0 or something

>>1596975
kof2000?

>>1596990

Y'know I played that in single player not long ago and was impressed with everything about the game but after seeing some high-end play it's literally waiting for an opening for 1 or 2 attacks, it seems remarkably boring and such a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D2dfvJcWIjQ

Okay I think my stick is working again, anyone up for some quick games of 2k2 or 98? I can only hang around for about half an hour

>>1597005
I'll also play Alpha 2 in a pinch :)

>>1596997
>it's literally waiting for an opening for 1 or 2 attacks

That's how most games work at high level

>>1596979
SSVSP really is a great and too often overlooked game. Honestly the room in GGPO is often fairly deserted, but you can usually get a game by asking here. There's at least a handful of us who play it.

I recommend just checking out the mizuumi wiki. It's pretty much the most thorough.
http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Samurai_Shodown_V_Special

Here is what the mizuumi wiki says about who should play SSVSP:

>Do play if:
>You want a fighter without worrying about combos or blockstrings.
>You get a real kick out of spacing and movement games.
>You like being able to get huge damage off of a good read.
>You like a decently sized diverse and varied cast that is well balanced.
>You want something that's easy to pick up and mess around with.

>>1596991
>>1597005

would love to play, but im ingame right now

>>1597032
That actually sounds really up my alley. I might give it a shot sometime soon.

>>1597032

Yeah I can see that, I've only had my hands on it for a moment but I'm loving how varied all the characters are at the moment. After messing around a little I'll likely shout on here for a game to see what higher-tier play looks like.

>>1597053
>>1597054
The Samurai Shodown series doesn't really feel like any other fighting game series. Sometimes that turns people off if they have played a lot of other fighting games, because they can't really transfer their street fighter or kof strategies very well, but I personally think it's a great game if you have an open mind if you don't come to it expecting it to be something else. I think it does a really good job of making you really feel like you're in a samurai duel. There can be a lot of measured movement and posturing, with sudden, and possibly lethal, explosions of action. That's why a lot of it is mindgames, and why combos aren't so important. It's a pretty exciting game in my opinion.

I'm glad you guys are getting interested in it.

had some really fun games with sham just there.
i know alot of people dont like i find kof really exciting

>>1597102
*kof2000

>>1597102
me, too. I love KoF but I never got to practice it really because everyone on ggpo is really good and doesn't live nearby, and my real-life scene considers it "a series for mexicans" so they don't really play it. Some people play KoF13 but I like the older ones...

>>1597102
GG's man, I'm such a total scrub at KOF. Still had fun though, jump ins all day long.

>>1597081
I'd like to try SS, anyone up for some games?

>>1597113
Would you play ss with me? I loved that game back in the arcades men

>>1597113

I'm still figuring out the controls and it's a little late over here, I'll probably be playing nothing but come tomorrow though.

PS: The mobility on Yunfei is making me tingle in various places.

>>1597120
Sure, I'll be in the SS5S room.

>>1597123
Yunfei is really good, too. He can be kind of technical sometimes, though. I think he can be hard to use for a beginner (though obviously use him if you like him). It's just that his normals are kind of "weird" in terms of hitboxes, and are usually fairly short range, and his specials are somewhat unique and situational, so he really relies on his mobility. He's very, very good if you focus on really learning him, though.

Anybody else want to play SS with me? I'm an absolute noob at that game.

>>1597171
We've been in the room talking to you and challenging you...

GG's Apollo. I'm curious to see how Ukyo is meant to be played, you said he's top tier right?

It's going to take me awhile to get used to this game, regular jump is ridiculously high and the whole slow sluggish feel of the game I'm not too fond of. I'll still play it though.

>>1597337
Good games, Shamwow. Samsho takes some getting used to. I'm not really that good, but there's a few tips I can give you... Basically, you shouldn't be punishing with qcb-S (his apple-slicer). It's pretty low damage, and is more of a situational thing. It can be a good anti-air if I'm jumping in ahead of your cr.b hitbox. Your go-to punish should probably be one of his ABs (probably neutral). This is true for most characters, but Ukyo has some massive damage normals with good range, and you can really take advantage of it.

Ukyo is kind of more a reactive/punishing character, which is where you actually did most of your damage to me. When you were rushing down, I got some big punishes on you with my spear rushes. His afterimage slash is pretty punishable if you do it at too far a distance, and really isn't as good for punishing as normals either. You can use it to go through certain things, though. If you want to do a fast attack from far away, it is often better to just use a dashing normal than his afterimages. Keep in mind that dashing normals are different normals than their standing varieties and they have some different properties. Ukyo's dash AB is really good. It might be better to use that instead of the afterimage attack.

His main gimmick that makes him annoyingly top-tier is his cr.C in to tiger-knee'd tsubame gaeshi. It's an extremely fast low-into-overhead attack that basically almost guarantees a hit. It's ridiculously frustrating.

Keep at it, though. You'd probably feel the game was less sluggish with more dashing in your gameplan.

>>1597337
Ukyo is a sluggish, floaty character.