/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1584492
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_59HHJI6TM

>>1584573
Nice, but that's 3D.

>>1584609
That is as good as you are going to get, kiddo

>>1584573
This game was so goddamn awful it's the only rental I've ever gotten and then returned on the same day.

>hack n' slash
I STILL don't understand what this damn "genre" is actually supposed to be. Last time I heard it referenced some idiot was calling Gauntlet Legends one of all things.

>>1584650
Pleb

>>1584662
Mindlessly button mashing action and walking forward. [Spoiler]although that's only on easy level. God of war is pretty hard if you go for the hardest mode.[/spoiler]

>>1584662
It's an alternate name for beat 'em up. Don't think too much about it.

>>1584875
Kind of, but beat'em ups tend to focus on bare handed combat, while hack and slashs are more weaponised.

>>1584819
I would hope it's hard on the hardest mode

>>1584904
Yeah, I only said that because people always complain GoW is piss easy, when actually, they are the pussies who didn't play it on hard.

>>1584889
This shit used to be much simpler. Even fighting games like Virtua Fighter got classed as Beat 'em ups by Gamesmaster and co. when I was a kid.

Despite trying to stick to using simple genre classes, one of my transgressions from since around gen 6, is using the term Hack 'n' Slash to describe games like Gauntlet, Diablo, Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance, Champions of Norath, etc.

To me Streets of Rage, Comix Zone, Devil May Cry, God of War, Godhand, etc. are all beat 'em ups. I understand what games people are talking about when they say spectacle fighter, or character action, but I'm not conditioned to use those terms naturally yet.

hack n slash games are just beat em ups that use some sort of melee weapon. Its not really a different genre. Thats like saying soul caliber and street fighter are completly different genres.

The main difference between a 2d beat em up (final fight, dnd world) is the 2d ones have a greater emphasis on crowd control and proper positioning while the 3d ones are about mashing out combos and pressing a dodge/block button when an enemy does any action

>>1584889
so does final fight change its genre from beat em up to hack n slash if I pick up a sword?

does devil may cry change its genre from hack n slash to beat em up if I put on Efrete (the punching weapon) instead of using alastar?

>>1584889
Nah man. Golden Axe, TMNT IV, hell, even Castle Crashers, they're all beat-em ups. The name just describes a style of gameplay.

>>1584492
>I would like to play some 2D game where you constantly walk forward beating people up like there's no tomorrow. Bonus points if it has a good attack upgrade system.

Shame on all of you assholes for not telling this guy about River City Ransom.

>>1584492
It's called a beat'em up. If you want a sword-themed beat'em, play Golden Axe. Whether it's a sword or knuckled does not affect the genre at all, though.

Most of the games in the genre are on the arcades. Some of the top ones that feature weapons are the two Capcom D&D games - Dungeons and Dragons Shadow over Mystara in particular, which has been remade for PC just recently, complete with 4 player co-op internet play and all.

>>1585239
>To me Streets of Rage, Comix Zone, Devil May Cry, God of War, Godhand, etc. are all beat 'em ups.
They ARE all beat'em ups.

guardian heroes for saturn (also on xbox live/psn)

Diablo and Diablo 2 are probably the biggest 2D hack 'n slash games there are.

Also Magic Sword, which originated in the arcades then got a SNES port.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63oFgwnruxQ

Battle Circuit has an upgrade screen similar to modern games.
Shadow Over Mystara and Knights of Valour 2 both have rpg elements and are just plain awesome.

Secret of Mana
Seiken Densetsu 3
Alcahest with a translation patch.

>>1585465
This.
It's common sense.

>>1585465
>>1585552
I assumed OP meant sidescrollers when he said 2D.
If he didn't, well yeah Diablo is the epitome of hack n' slash, and like with >>1585547 suggestions, most ARPGs would fit the bill

>>1585541
Got interested in battel circuit, what is the best way to play it on an android device?

>>1585684
>battel circuit

*Battle Circuit

>>1585684
No good way to play action games on android devices. The best (which does not imply good) is RetroArch, of course.

>>1584994
>Ares in God difficulty

Holy shit what a nightmare.

On topic though, is OP unaware of games like Double Dragon or Streets of Rage or what? I'm not sure what he's looking for when he says a hacknslash where you beat people up

>>1585789
I think he means more along the lines of Viewtiful Joe and Dust: An Elysian Tale. Unfortunately I can't think of anything else that has over-the-top crazy combat.

>>1585759
I have a BT controller, just need to know the better way to emulate it.

>>1585759
Like a leveling up combat system or something along those lines. That's basically what differs beat'em ups from hack n' slashes to me, although many people on this thread group them together.

>>1585631
Yeah, i meant sidescrollers.

>>1585869
Bumpity bump.

>>1584650
I got the n64 one and it was shit.

>>1585427
devil may cry and god of war are not beat em ups.
wouldnt this be the line for hack n slash

>>1586784
They're called "crazy" due to how Dante says the word. They're a mix of hack n' slash and beat em' up.

I don't care how thy are called, just reccomend me some games.

Last bump.

>>1586784
They are the modern evolution of the beatemup genre.

throw rocks at me, but the Souls game look like beat em ups to me, it may have character creation and stats, but I don't see much role playing in it, it is an action game in which you beat enemies with medieval fantasy weapons, like golden axe.

>>1591836
You can't just grab any weapon you like and start wailing on enemies. In order to get the most (or any progress at all) you have to manage your characters stats and items and resources. Much more so than a typical "save some meter for the boss section" style of resource management.

Consider my rock thrown.