/vr/ - Retro Games

Destiny Of An Emperor is definitely overlooked and underrated as far as NES RPGs are concerned.

underrated is a stupid term. To start with you need to say 'who is it underated by?' The average gamer who doesnt even play retro games? /vr/? Your mom?

Second it doesn't imply the game is good or bad. It just says the most accepted rating is incorrect

You could say that (insert name of super popular game) is underrated because even though its considered good it should be considered the greatest game of all time.

>>1585365
yeah I'll agree with you. I think under-recognized or "hidden gem" is a better term.

>>1585365
>To start with you need to say 'who is it underated by?'
Op literally said "in your opinion" but keep on spergin man, we'd all sure love to hear more about your riveting ideologies on semantics.

>>1585365
It's just asking for your general perception. I don't see what's wrong with that. It really isn't stupid at all.

>>1585365
>>1585372
I agree with the guy. Even if OP says "in your opinion, what are some of the most underrated games", you have to conjure up an image of how other people seem to be judging it and compare that to your own perception. Both underrated and overrated are kind of useless terms.

>>1585384
Only if you're a completely pedantic fuckwit. It doesn't need to be precisely defined. It's completely an opinion question about what games you like that you also feel are underappreciated. Underappreciated by who? Who cares. That's up to you.

Neither underrated nor overrated is a useless term. Just because a term is subjective does not mean it is useless. This shit is ridiculous.

To contribute to the what "underrated" means discussion let's take an example of people using the term wrong (at least in my opinion):

>FFIX is criminally underrated!
This is fucking bullshit as most people know about FFIX, most FF fans have played it and most of them liked it. Sure it may not be as popular or talked about as FFVII, FFVIII, or FFX are but it's far from being underrated especially when it's rated just as high or higher than then on sites like metacritic. Now I think under/overratedness is more about how well a game is received and not about how popular it is but then again /v/ and apparently /vr/ as well seems to think the following:

underrated = game I like
overrated = game someone else likes

Also pic may or may not be related depending on what "underrated" means to you.

Underrated? Check.
Undeservedly unknown? Check.

>>1586054
Seconding this and the OP. Especially the OP.

Ghost Chaser Densei/Denjinmakai is my vote for undeservedly unknown. At first it seems generic as all-get-out, then you learn the combo system and it becomes a ton of fun. Then after that, you can move on to Denjinmakai II.

>>1585365

this is right, most people use overrated / underrated incorrectly

most of the time what is actually meant is "overlooked"

if a game is "overrated" or "underrated" you need to be able to back it up with some kind of coherent explanation

>underrated is a stupid term. To start with you need to say 'who is it underated by?'

generally what is perceived as being "common /popular opinion"

>>1585403
"Underrated" usually doesn't refer to how well a game is "rated" on a review basis. It's usually referring to a title that didn't get the attention it deserved, not unlike a "cult classic".

I'd consider FF9 underrated, mainly because it went under the radar with most people who were into the "new form" FF titles, since it was more or less a throwback to the classic style of the series and was mostly forgotten among the more popular FFs.

Ninja cop. Hands down has to be Ninja Cop.

>>1586112
yeah, nobody wants or remembers that game...

http://videogames.pricecharting.com/game/gameboy-advance/ninja-five-o

>>1585295
>>1585308
Wow, these are both favorites of mine. I don't see them mentioned on /vr/ very often, so it's nice to see someone else digs them.

How about Operation Logic Bomb on the SNES?

>>1586237
OLB is okay. It's not all that bad or all that great either. You can do a lot worse on the SNES and a lot better on the SNES.

Dat intro tho

For a game loosely based on rather bad movie this is a surprisingly good action-platformer that I have never seen anyone talking about.

>>1586090
I still don't see how FFIX is underrated as it is a well known game and highly rated by both reviewers and majority of the FF fanbase. If you want to argue for any of the FF games to be underrated or forgotten talk about the "lost Final Fantasies" II, III and V as the FFVII generation generally don't give a fuck about them.

>>1586336
FFV has been wildly popular ever since the ROM was translated.

>>1586343
You might think so, but no so hardcore people have no idea it exists. I recently was talking to a friend who is a huge fan of FF, played most of the ones released here. surprisingly he hadn't heard of V.

>>1585295
Not underrated. This game, like many other previous "unknowns" has been featured in enough "UNDERRATED SNES CLASSICS" and "CHEAPEST GAMES WORTH YOUR TIME" lists that it costs triple what it did several years ago.

Here's an idea for everyone- if you discover a classic that nobody else seems to know about, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Some of us are trying to collect things here.

>>1586343
>wildly
First the fantranslation, then the GBA release and probably most importantly, Dissidia have made FFV somewhat popular though mostly in the narrow circles of dedicated fans of the series and JRPGs in general, but it's nowhere "wildly" popular. Compared to the popularity IV and VI, among the greater populace it's just nothing, lacking the nostalgia and firsties factor.

III and especially II are the more forgotten and obscure ones, though, yeah. Some people might argue that it's for the right reasons, though, and I wouldn't protest as much as you could think...II and III are very much an acquired taste, and II is just downright sadistic.

Underrated and relatively unknown at least compared to the Super Star Wars games.

Must not get into an argument with FFIX's delusional fanbase as I actually like the game and don't want to give it or it's actual fans a bad name.
Must not get into an argument with FFIX's delusional fanbase as I actually like the game and don't want to give it or it's actual fans a bad name.
Must not get into an argument with FFIX's delusional fanbase as I actually like the game and don't want to give it or it's actual fans a bad name.
I swear that most of it's "fans" have never played the earlier FFs they claim it to be a throwback to and only like it in order to pretend they have.
Must not get into an argument with FFIX's delusional fanbase as I actually like the game and don't want to give it or it's actual fans a bad name.
Must not get into an argument with FFIX's delusional fanbase as I actually like the game and don't want to give it or it's actual fans a bad name.
Must not get into an argument with FFIX's delusional fanbase as I actually like the game and don't want to give it or it's actual fans a bad name.

>>1587978
Let the hate flow through you.

>>1586647

>>1586604
>I don't like it when people try to enjoy video games because I'm try to hoard them for monetary reasons

You can fuck right off, scum.

>>1585308
All RPGs on NES that don't have the words "Dragon Warrior" or "Final Fantasy" in their titles are criminally underrated. Pic related.

>>1587992
Yes, trying to obtain single copies for my own personal collection is "hoarding." Are you the same geek retard who posts about "reseller scum" in every fucking thread? I'd say "get a life," but honestly just kill yourself.

>>1586336
i loved arresting people rather than shoot them and it was kind off cool to be Dredd

>>1585295
it was good but it wasn't as under rated and this

Nox

I wouldn't say it's widely unknown, but the Gargoyle's Quest series doesn't seem to get a lot of attention. The gameplay is similar to Mega Man, so you'd think it would be almost as popular. Gargoyle's Quest II and Demon's Crest were released pretty late into the lifespans of their respective consoles, so I guess not many people noticed them.

Unfortunately, some of these games have become collector's items. You won't be able to find them for less than $80 USD on eBay. The only reasonably priced game is the original Gargoyle's Quest for GameBoy, which should be around $10 USD for the cartridge only.

>>1588174
Why don't you already have these games? You suck.

It's bullshit to call people out for pointing out underrated games just because it increases their cost. It's not like you can't play these games for free. Collectors should just kill themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neW9YYqFhys

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person that knows about Karnov. I brought it up among my friends and not a single person knew what I was talking about. And I can't say I've ever seen it casually mentioned anywhere online, or part of any best game lists or what have you.

But I played the shit out of it as a kid. Love me some Karnov.

>>1586604
>Here's an idea for everyone- if you discover a classic that nobody else seems to know about, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Some of us are trying to collect things here.
So let me see if I got this right, you are saying that if I find a good game no one seems to know about you don't want me to tell about it to you (preventing YOU from enjoying it as you wouldn't know about it) just to ensure some faggot that is never going to play it can buy it for a slightly cheaper prise just to have it collecting dust on his shelf?

>>1588372
I think Karnov is one of my favorite company mascots.

For fuck's sake, it's a fat, fire-breathing Russian.

>>1587984
Never. I'll never turn to the Dark Side.

Now that I think about it I'd say the Star Wars game for the NES is somewhat underrated. After all it combines open world exploration, platforming and first-person flying stages and does all of them pretty well. Also you have to give it some credits for being the only Star Wars game you can simply say FUCK YOU to RD-D2, Obi-Wan and Han Solo and proceed to blow up the Death Star alone killing princess Leia who was still inside it because you didn't bother saving her.

>>1588591
Fairly mediocre. I had (maybe still have) that for Gameboy. At its core, the game is just not very satisfying and is filled with cheap bullshit.

>>1586126
Loose price: $79
Complete price: $229
New price: $410

Hold me, /vr/...please hold me.

>>1589129

Just get a Flash cart. You can still buy EZ Flash IV online from various Chinese Web stores, and it should be no more than $40 USD. Just throw all your rare ROMs on there and have a blast.

I never hear people mention Crisis Force.

Psycho Dream is a neat little Castlevania type game.
Gundam Wing: Endless Duel is an awesome fighting game.
Neither game requires knowing any Japanese to enjoy really

>>1587985
That looks pretty cool. What is it? One of the games people are talking about?

>>1585295
>tfw I used to have that game
>tfw I have no idea what happened to it
>tfw the music haunts my dreams

>>1588372

On the subject of Data East: THIS FUCKING GAME.

>>1588174
Excuse me, but in what universe do you live in, where "collections" aren't a polite form of hoarding?

And no, I'm not the "same geek retard" because a) I don't usually get involved with the stupidity of /vr/'s wacky economic theories, b) there are probably several dozen posters that continually bitch about said economic stupidity, and c) because you're clearly suffering from some sort of persecution complex to say something so goddamn asinine - I didn't call you a reseller, I called you scum, and here's why.

What you advocated was that instead of people trying to expose other people to interesting new video games, you instead told them to shut the fuck up for your own selfish need to save money, like the posters on /vr/ are going to flock to ebay and advise everyone auctioning any game mentioned here to triple their prices or something. Like anyone saying anything here is going to affect your wallet in the slighest. See, when you try to get people to stop doing something they enjoy, and stop them from enjoying new experiences, you're scum. You are scum. What you said was among the dumbest goddamn things I've seen on this board, COMPLETELY counter to the entire purpose of /vr/.

I don't think you should post anymore; maybe you should stick to lurking for a bit until you can get some perspective, because yours is way the fuck off.

>>1585308
>>1588116


Funny how it took me only a second to find my two greatest 'most underrated' games posted in this thread.

ilu /vr/

>>1589620
Awesome boxart.

>>1588219
Agree. while it's not THAT underrated, it's one of the cheaper top quality SNES games IMO.

>>1585295
>search for this games OST on YouTube
>all of the music appears to be uploaded
>not one trace of the Boss music track

>>1588591
I would have liked the game more if it had some passwords or better controls. It takes us serious patience and skill to beat it in one sitting with just some lives.

>>1588372
You should try the Japanese version with the English patch. The US release took out all the plot, and left it on the manual. Screwing with poor kids for many years to come.

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/944/

>>1588116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiORoGzDZ94

>>1586336
Thank god for the LUXURY cheat, but I could never beat the jail level as a kid. I don't know where I was supposed to go or do

>>1586054
To be fair, the property / license it is based on is just as obscure as the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ad4MBqAfvA

>>1585308
How many people even bother to play the sequel?

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/116/

>>1585295
How many even got to play it before they saw the Happy Video Game Nerd rave about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjyKk4lQC3k

>>1591974
It's not too bad. I beat it as a kid.

My dad was also playing with me. You could probably do it now.