/vr/ - Retro Games

Isn't that a Saturn controller?
Did you just bait me?

>>1477738
It is a MKII controller, but it's for the DC.

I wasn't aware of this.

I was just going to get a TotalControl 3 to play six-button games on Dreamcast.

>>1477732
hmm i see no distinction between this and a japanese saturn controller. sauce on this being for dreamcast? is it an official sega product or a mod?

>>1477757
I'm not really sure. I was looking for a picture of a dreamcast in google images and saw this with the same filename.

I also found this pic which is weird. It has a usb connection. Did they make saturn pads for use with a PC?

>>1477732
looks like a japanase saturn controller to me

>>1477769
That it does. I was just curious because of the filename.

whatever its deal is, the lack of an analogue stick is troubling, since many Dreamcast games made use of both the D-pad AND the analogue stick for different functions.

Probably great for shmups and fighting games, which the DC had a lot of.

>>1477763
Yes, but I wouldn't use them. Just get a USB adapter for a real Saturn pad.

>>1477821
Why would using an adapter be better than an official Sega usb pad?

>>1477835
Because the criteria of "official Sega" stuff has slipped considerably/

>>1477835
Because those USB controllers are lower quality than actual Saturn controllers. I own one and it sucks. I bought a USB adapter for an original Saturn controller and it's 10 times better.

Also, just for reference the original Treamcast came with Saturn shaped controllers but it's unclear if they're proprietary or not.

>>1477845
So this usb pad here >>1477763 with the sega logo isn't necessarily officially made by sega?

>>1477853
As you should know, Sega no longer manufactures hardware period.

>>1477851
>Treamcast
Wait what? That looks pretty fucking cool.

>>1477858
Very valid point.

>>1477858
They make arcade hardware. In fact, they're one of the leaders of the arcade industry.

>>1477858
What about the Toylet?

>>1477868
Sega arcade machines are just PCs with a proprietary piracy-defeat card in them.

>>1477860
It's a really nice bootleg console from HK.

>>1477874
So what? They still manufacture them.

>>1477881
Despite the SEGA logo on this RingEdge motherboard I'll bet fifty bucks it's manufactured by MSI. What that has to do with USB Saturn controllers, I have no idea.

>>1477732
that's a sega saturn pad. sega released a usb version for pc/mac a few years back, but they're hard to find these days at a descent price. i bought one off ebay for $25 about 5 years ago and it's legit. it's not a problem to find a bunch of shit-tier chinese knockoffs on ebay now. if you want a descent pad with a 6 button layout like that for dreamcast, check out the ascii pad ft.

>>1477858
Correct. Like everyone who isn't a Chinese factory Sega doesn't make hardware.

>>1477732
That's a normal Saturn jp model 2 pad. Someone just renamed it to Dreamcast.

It might be possible to make the Saturn pad work on the DC though, from what I remember the DC Arcade Sticks were the same thing as the Saturn arcade pads (the later ones anyway), with a pinout converter showed inside the boards.

>>1477763
Sega Logistics Service released a USB Saturn pad around ~2003 or 2004 for PC, in multiple colours even. Black, grey, white, and I believe champagne (possibly to mimic the colour scheme of a promo-image-only Saturn case). So yes, they did make Saturn parts for the PC at one point. However they are long sold out and nowadays you can only buy shitty knockoffs.

They also officially released a Saturn pad for the PS2, it had an extra select button and the little cd controller marks in the plastic were changed to Playstation controller figures (x, circle, triangle, etc).
>>1477854
Did you buy an original SLS one or one of those bajillion Chinese ripoffs circling on ebay? The SLS ones were bona fide originals.

Ok, I don't want to start new thread.

IR light SNES gamepad from 1993?
Was that even possible? I know about IR in Game GBC etc. but in that?

>>1481948
What's so hard to believe about it?

>>1481963

I can understand using the radio waves.
But IR? I remember the fun using it with GBC to get Mystery Gift when playing pokemon.
But there was problem with range, most of the times we had to make GBC "kiss" each other.

>>1481948
>>1481963
>MFW real wireless controllers don't shoot lasers or lightning

>>1481981
It's definitely kinda annoying to use, but it does work, and it's arguably playable. Speaking from fuzzy experience with IR PSX controllers

>>1481981
dude, tv remotes.
like that one in pink floyd's the wall. IR has been around since the seventies, at least.

>>1482039

>>1477732
2d games are you retarded op ?

It was for fighting games.

I owned a pair for 3rd Strike.

>>1477763
yes and unfortunately there's tons of really shitty knockoff by brands like gtron & retrolink. the only good usb saturn controllers were made by sega and later licensed by sega and made my sls. sls also made a ps2 version which added a select button.


>>1477851
treamcast dpad looks ass. bet those don't holdup for very long.

>>1477965
msi is cancer and they'd stain it red if it were. probably manufactured by evga, whom does a lot of contracted out reference designs.

>>1478796
fucking this

>>1483587
>later licensed by sega and made my sls

SLS -is- Sega. A branch of them anyway. I have a Saturn made by them - it is in fact a refurbished machine manufactured years earlier by Seiyo Denshi.

>>1483601
Well not shit, the brand is called Sega Logistics Service. The service part should be a dead giveaway, that they started as a separate repair center and eventually migrated into other markets. Such as manufacturing USB Saturn controllers after Sega first made them in very limited runs. The quality of which supposedly matches that of a real Saturn controller. Which the SLS controller does not. But does come very close to. As the plastic shell is weaker and the micro-switches are inferior too.

>>1477732
Wait, that's a thing for DC?

Fuck, what would I look for?
"saturn controller dc" doesn't bring something like that up

I've been considering trying a USB knockoff Saturn controller, but they get such mixed reviews here.

But when I've looked for just getting a Saturn and buying an adapter its usually poorly listed as to what the damn thing comes with even on Amazon. If it has controllers, the ram cart, wires, etc or not. Anyone else run into this issue?

Its just hard to tell what they have with them and even just buying a saturn controller and adapter alone I would think the potential wear over the years may have them less than functional or do they hold up well? I mean N64 is the extreme case, but getting anything not in a sealed package with that is pointless.

Or should I just get the controller/adapter and emulate if Saturn emulation is no longer shit. I really don't know. But I know the models can be a gamble if you plan to mod chip as I understand. Same reason I hesitate on the dreamcast, because not all models will play a CDR.

>>1481948
Sure it was, Sega had them for the megadrive. I didn't like them cus you have to point to controller at the IR port and I have a habit of moving the pad as I play.

>>1483630
You want a SLS Saturn controller. It'll likely set you back about $70-$150. Or if you're like me and know how to tell them apart, you can score big. Got mine and a shit-ton of other goodies for like $14. Seller was royally asspained after. toppest of kek

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Official-SLS-Fukkokuban-Sega-Saturn-USB-Control-Pad-Metallic-Blue-PC-MAC-PS3-/331157140413

See that? That's what you want. The end of the USB connector will always have SEGA written on the molding and there will always be a silver sticker with SLS written on them. That is how you know you're looking at the right controller and not some piece of shit by gtron/retrolink. Do NOT buy the gtron/retrolink, it will break and the dpad will stick. They're shit. S-H-I-T. You got that?

Or you can go with a pair of used Sega Saturn controllers and pickup a USB adapter by Mayflash, like this one: www.ebay.com/itm/Sega-Saturn-Controller-to-PC-Dual-USB-adapter-for-SS-controller-Mayflash-2-Port-/261040029058 I have no experience with that adapter, but I LOVE my four player Playstation adapter by them.


>>1483623
It doesn't exist. There's the knockoff Treamcast clone shown in an earlier post, but you likely won't find them anywhere. What you want is a real Sega Saturn controller and the Saturn to Dreamcast adapter by Innovation. Which looks like and is this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DREAMCAST-PS1-PS2-SATURN-JOYPAD-ADAPTOR-CONVERTOR-VG-Condition-/141204705679

>>1483648
Damn.

Ah well. Thanks (so glad I have my Saturn pads still, even though my Saturn's busted)!

I collect pictures of this controller, actually.

>>1483656
Man, that one with the orange buttons is so sexy.

damn, I know I'll never find one ever

>>1483656
I want that purple Darkstalkers controller.

>>1483648
Ya I was thinking just buy a saturn and an adapter, but nobody lists the model of saturn or if its just the console or not. I know on Amazon it implies controllers and a ram cart, but shit can lie.

>>1483674
Yeah never buy stuff like this from an "Amazon Partner". You just know they'll stick you with a shitty 3rdparty or 1stgen amerifat controller. Better off checking local shops, craigslist or ebay for a complete system.

>>1483697
I like the amerifat controller, but only to play Virtual On with. Something about it seems nicer for that game.

>>1483710
>not using twin sticks
absolutely disgusting

>>1483723
I'm a poorass. I looked up how much twinsticks cost, nope.

and I can't be arsed to build my own

Also, I'm not sure I like using twinsticks that that much. My local arcade has a VO cab, and it's neat and I feel like a mech pilot with them, but I got used to the controller.

>>1483662
That one was a pack-in with a (JP-only) PC release of Puyo Puyo.

>>1477763
>>1477732

these are real

a long long time ago sega had this program called "sega play" where you could go to a website and play SEGA games from there. Didnt need any hardware or anything.

It was like $6 a month if I remember and if you got 3 months they gave you one of these controllers.

way before emulators took, this service was ahead of its time. Specially since most people didnt have computers back then. Now Sony is doing the same thing with its games.

SEGA was doing so much back then. Even the dreamcast had a modem in it for online miltiplayer.

I've played Oniken with this. It feel great.

>>1477732
If it was a DC controler it would have some space for a VMU, like on the ASCII pad.

>>1477851
of course they are not proprietary