/vr/ - Retro Games

SMW, no doubt.

world.

it's not even close.

3

It's not even close

>Better powerups
>More powerups
>Far more challenging, half the game can't be flown over like with the cape
>Superior soundtrack
>Better art style with better enemy designs
>No Yoshi to make things babby mode

SMW has superior secrets but that's about it

I think SMB3 had better level design and higher replayability level due to the fact that you couldn't save. SMW is more friendly and has more options though.

>>1466615
I prefer smw gameplay, but smb3 had some bitchin level design.

I think world though. Had more fun with it I guess. Plus tons of secrets.

Super Mario Bros. 3

SMB3

Bros 3.
When I was a kid Mario World seemed a relative failure to me because Super Nintendo games tended to be much better than NES games, but Mario World did not manage to be better than Bros 3.

I like the length, it is an ideal game to beat in one afternoon.

There was a recent Straw Poll done on /v/, asking gamers what the best Mario game was. There was like, 20 different Mario games to vote on.

Super Mario Bros. 3 killed and totally won the poll. It wasn't even close.

I like World better because you can save and play any level in any world and find secrets. It's annoying turning on SMB3 and having to play the same levels over and over again to get to the part I want to play.

Yay! Another Super Mario Bros 3 versus Super Mario World thread!

All we need now is those Donkey Kong Country 2 trolls to show up again, and we'll be all set!

I like World more. I like the big overworld and all the secrets. 3 never really clicked with me, not sure why. I don't hate it but I don't love it either.

Donkey Kong Country 2 is better than both. Mario was always too gimmicky for me.

3 and it's not even close. I like SMB1 better than either though

>>1466701

Your prophecy was fulfilled: >>1466718

>>1466718
but the DKC series is the definition of gimmicky

Don't get me wrong, 3 is great.

But SMW pretty much set the bar for what can be considered a great 2D platformer.

>B-BUT MUH DIFFICULTY

While I like a good old fashion challenging platformer, I mean shit DKC2 is top 5 all time for me, difficulty =/= quality.

>>1466814
>SMW pretty much set the bar for what can be considered a great 2D platformer.
All it did was build upon what SMB3 started.

World.

Best NES mario is 2. Its trippy.

>>1466701
>>1466718
>>1466727
Man, /vr/ has the strangest trolls...

super mario bros 3. its the best 2d platformer ever

>>1466615

I don't like Super Mario Bros. 3. I feel like it has just way too much shit in it. Most of the levels feel too short and kinda gimmicky. There never seems to be any kind of flow or momentum either, and the auto scrolling levels all suck except for the airships in world 8.

I don't know, the game mostly just feels like a chore. Its my least favorite 2D Mario. Mario World is much more fun.

SMB3
More challenge, more variety, more off the wall weird shit

SMB3 had a lot of neat features, but SMW controls so much better it's no contest.

>>1466615

Both great games.

World is a lot easier. The flying is really unbalanced in that game.

smb3 easily, hate worlds slippery controls

>>1466853

...yeah? If that's supposed to be a pro 3 argument you'll have to think of something better than

>SMW just did everything 3 did plus a bunch of other cool shit

First doesn't mean better. Better means better.

ITT: not even close

I liked both, but SMB3 gets my vote for being the better of the two.

>>1466942

Not even close levels: Not even close

>>1466873

>this guy
>saying "no contest" instead of "not even close"

I liked the tighter controls in World. They still feel crisp to me after all these years

I liked the sheer number of power ups in 3. You felt like a fucking champ when you got that hammer suit
I also liked the variety of worlds in 3. Every one felt a little different. I can still vividly remember the cloud world and the pipe world

So World for game mechanics, 3 for imagination

3 was more fun. Better power ups, better soundtrack, and I personally enjoyed the level & enemy designs.

>>1466858
That's not a Mario game though.

Super Mario All Stars + World.

Can save in Mario 3, but you don't have to. The only downside I see to it is less glitches, if you can really call that a problem.

>>1467061
>Is called mario
>has mario characters in it
>by the creator of mario

Its a mario game.

I had a dream I was playing a different version of SMB3 recently... Thanks dreamland, it was fun stuff.

SMB3 fun but I love the brightness of SMW... SMW probably beats it out since SMB3's World 8 is so small.

>>1467061
It is a shame that there was not a DDP game for SNES.I love the setting and the cast of characters. It would have been nice to see the DDP line of games continue alongside the SMB series.

>>1467061
Don't be a snob.

Mario 2 still has a lot of charm

>>1467159
>>1467158
Not being a snob, this is just the real sequel to SMB.

If you think about it, going from a rehash of SMB to SMB3 must've been insane for japanese gamers on a gameplay and graphical standpoint

>>1467061
>>1467165

>>1467165
I for one am glad that we got Super Mario USA instead of the real Mario 2. MarioUSA is quirky and tries to do something different. Mario 2 is just like Mario 1, but even more soul-grindingly difficult.

>If you think about it, going from a rehash of SMB to SMB3 must've been insane for japanese gamers on a gameplay and graphical standpoint

I can't imagine it was as big as the wide eyed wonder I felt when I first saw the eye-splitting graphics of the Super Nintendo in an issue of Nintendo Power.

>>1467158
Any good DDP rom hacks?

Surely it'd be possible to make a pseudo-sequel with the All-Stars version of the game

>mfw those e-Reader levels in Super Mario 3 for GBA that add all of that stuff from SMW

It was like an official rom hack. Best of both worlds

Just being the best Mario game coming through.

>tfw flying through a large open world
>tfw no autoscroller bullshit stages
>tfw no timer, so can explore and just leisurely have fun
>tfw the bosses were actually kind of clever this time around
>tfw all the new default moves Mario could do were amazing
>tfw Star Road is even greater than the original and I loved it

>>1467221
Bad graphics, bad gameplay, annoying sound effects. Even as a kid I wasn't suckered in by that shit.

>>1467221
muh nigga. 2D Mario a shit.

>>1467248
>2D Mario a shit.
leave /vr/ asap

3, narrowly. It'd be 3 by a wide margin for me if not for the dismal failure that is Pipe World. Its so lifeless and dull.

>>1467221
>3D platformers

absolutelydisgusting.jpg

>>1467230

>bad graphics
>bad gameplay
>bad gameplay
>gameplay
>bad
>Mario 64

You wut, m8?

SMW had better graphics, but when I played All Stars I realized that all things being equal, SMB3 is the better game.

>>1467221
>no autoscroller bullshit stages

uhm, so what exactly is Rainbow Ride again?

>>1467165
If you want to be autistic about it, Doki Doki Panic was a Mario game from the very beginning. It was Nintendo Japan who decided to turn into something it wasn't and NOA who decided to keep it is.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Famitsu_Japan%27s_100_favorite_video_games

61. Super Mario World (1990)

99. Super Mario Bros III (1988)

#wrecked

btw

21. Super Mario Bros (1985)

>>1467729

>Many of these games are not only critically acclaimed, but have also sold very well in the Japanese market.

>>1467729
>48. Mysterious Dungeon 2 (1995)

I'll never get why there are only, like, twelve people here who ever talk about it.

>>1467729
Incredible. FF6 ranks below 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, and X. Why does Japan dislike FF6 so much?

>>1467729
>1. Final Fantasy X (2001)
>28. Final Fantasy X (2001)

>>1467739
> dislike
It's in the top 100 most popular games, they hardly dislike it. I guess it's lower because it pales in comparison to 5, which they got to play when it was released.

>>1467742
#28 should be Chrono Trigger

>>1467729
>EVERY FINAL FANTASY
>EVERY DRAGON QUEST
>FILL IN THE CRACKS WITH MORE RPGS
Holy shit Japan do you really love adding numbers that much?

>>1467751
Japs are babies who get motion sickness so that's basically what they're stuck with.

>>1467751
JRPGs in 1990s Japan were basically the same thing as cinematic FPSs here and now.

>>1467751
The most popular games are the easy ones that focus on graphics and story over gameplay. It's like the complete opposite of the west.

>>1467757
AAA titles sure do focus on compelling gameplay over graphics

>>1467760
Compared to jap games they do

>>1467761
your statement is still wrong

>>1467763
Wasn't my statement

>>1467767
okay thanks for the irrelevant remark, then

>>1467769
you're welcome :)

SMB 3
because
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmnZgBpYG_4

I've been trying to decide ever since I played both of these on my SNES when I was young (all I had was the All Stars version at the time).

I'd have to say that certain parts of each game do something better. (incoming tl;dr)

Super Mario world has stronger basic gameplay and a very fluid overworld (traveling to older worlds is no problem at all), with tons of secrets along the way. It's graphically superior and has much more memorable boss fights. The skill curve is also less steep, making it more accessible to newcomers not looking for a challenge, but also has very hard bonus levels and endgame levels for gamers that want a challenge.

Super Mario Bros 3 has a very memorable soundtrack with more detailed levels that you will always remember, whether you liked them or not. It also contained some of the most fun to use powers in the entire franchise. The skill curve in this game is much more steep, and is a genuine challenge for gamers of any skill. especially because of the last few worlds.

Overall, both of them are extremely enjoyable games for both very similar and very different reasons. It's absolutely impossible for me to chose a favorite between the two.

>>1467678
le contrarian face :^)

super mario world is still the best platform ever made

I like the original Super Mario Bros better.

I like how it feels more like an arcade game.

You can't cape through 90% of the levels in 3 so that's a plus.

>>1467739
Nips are stupid.

I like SMB3's themed worlds better, but overall I prefer SMW. Better secrets, cooler/more power-ups, Yoshi, etc.

SMB3 isnt even that good to me. Yes, it does have more "stuff"...but so what? There's so much shit that the main gameplay seems to suffer. The levels are short and gimmicky; it feels like they end before they even have a chance to really begin.

>>1467214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-9FAwwMvM

>>1467941
fuggin awesome

>>1467729
Super mario world came bundled with the snes. What'd you expect?

>>1466683
Based mario 3GBA

>>1467941
that is so much content locked away in e-reader land

>>1467971
The levels are amazing. Nice difficulty too.

>>1467971
Have them on my official mario3GBA cart. Levels are great.

Puts the other mario gba ports to shame. It's like they really put an effort into this one.

I like both almost equally; though, I do like that SMB3 has more variations in worlds.

>>1467970
>>1467982
jelly as fuck

Smw did a lot of things better. Its power up system was streamlined, a lot less gimmicky. You could save and replay levels at will, a huge plus.

Otoh, smw was staggeringly, gameplay-breakingly overpowered. The cape could#ve been balanced with more compelling level design - the spinjump, otoh, was ludocrous in every imaginable way.

smb 3 meanwhile, has the more variable, morr compelling level design.

in the end, thy're different but equal.

Super Mario World, duh.

>>1466615
SMB3 > SMW

For replay & simplicity, SMB3 kicks the shit out of SMW. Recently tried to replay SMW and found that after 20 years I cannot keep Mario in the air. Stupid cape is a real pain in the ass. I'd hate to imagine what that game felt like for first timers.

I love them both, they're both 10/10 games, I could give you a favorite but that answer would change almost constantly.

also, sry for not /vr/ but I'm always at least a generation behind on systems and just got a wii a few months ago and am presently playing through New SMBwii, I'm really having a blast with it and some of the levels and coins are really difficult. game really is a nice tribute to SMB3. I heard the NSMB for wii u is more of a tribute to World, can't wait to play that one day.

>>1467941
>all these features
>people still make crummy zsnes mario world hacks instead

>>1467729
Proves nothing. Famitsu has not been a credible source for years.

>>1468078

I actually think Mario 3 has horrible replay value. The worlds are so tedious to go through with their short, slow levels, and the airships are duller than dirt. World 3 is horrible as well. I don't think the game even gets good at all until world 5.

3 had the awesome tanuki and hammer bros suits but never let you use them and no level select to go to previous worlds
World had yoshi and level select but no difficulty at all.

>>1467941

Man, that looks great.

>>1467751
Japan's shit taste is something every /a/non knows very well

>>1468091
The games hacking potential is incredible. Shame nobody knows about this shit.

>>1468107
You should play them. The levels are hard and fun.

>>1468128
The world looks like an "e"

>>1467941
is there a rom with pre-patched e-reader levels? or better yet a SMB3 hack using the All-stars engine that tries to recreate this?

>>1468136
world-e from the e-reader looks like an e? shocking!

>>1468141
You just need a save file. You don't need to patch anything at all.

>>1468128
that's because we all forgot about the e-reader, as one should normally do with mostly useless accessories

>>1468141
save file, google "Super Mario Bros 3 (Super Mario Advance 4) GBA Save E1"

I think 3 is better but I always think of SMW as the main mario game

>>1468128
I think the real crime is that Nintendo did not create a updated version of All-Stars with the GBA extras. Nor did they release all of the ereader cards for SMA4.

>>1468149
>>1468160
http://filetrip.net/gba-downloads/game-saves/download-super-mario-bros-3-super-mario-advance-4-gba-save-e1-f24473.html

If you mean this, it seems to be corrupted

>>1468265
n-nevermind I figured it out

It's just really too bad about the shitty GBA sound quality

and WOO HOO
JUST WHAT I NEEDED
WOO HOO
JUST WHAT I NEEDED

>>1468287
Oh god they even made every single Boo you run past make that terrible laughing noise

Why would they do this?

>>1467692
A game with optional autoscrolling.

Speedrunners don't even need the carpet.

Secret of evermore if you're hipster. Secret of Mana if you're a weeaboo

>>1466718
>>1467997
>>1466869
>>1467907
>gimmicky
what does gimmicky mean anyways, I dont even know anymore

>>1469145
Gimmicky means "does something differently and/or innovative from what I'm used to and I don't like it."
So when someone says something like
>DKC2 is gimmicky.
They're really saying
>DKC2 does something differently and/or innovative from what I'm used to and I don't like it.

>>1469145
Gimmick in vidya used to mean a forced mechanic that adds next to nothing. The Wii's waggle is a gimmick because the games would work fine with conventional controls for example. Regenerating health in fps is not a gimmick because removing it imbalances the hell out of them.
Now it means a mechanic different from what is the norm.

SMB3 is way harder

SMW is funnier

SMB3 by far. It's just a way better game

SMB3 probably the last challenging Mario game.

The final world is epic, full of wild battles with Koopa tanks, airships.

I like Super Mario Bros 3 better. But if Super Mario World excites you, and gave you lots of good memories, then who I am to say my choice is better?

I never was a big fan of Super Mario World.

>>1469145

If we're going to talk about gimmicks, what about SMW's gratuitous use of Mode 7?

The castles had those gates where you could go through the door and climb on the opposite side. Meh, big deal. I think Super Castlevania used as well.

>>1469341
>what about SMW's gratuitous use of Mode 7?

u wot m8

Gratuitous is not the word to describe it. It hardly shows up, taking the whole game into consideration.

>>1469345

>level loads
>mode 7
>go down pipe
>mode 7
>enter door
>mode 7

>>1469392
All transitions. You rarely pay attention to something like that if you're playing the game normally.

>>1466642
This game is shit, plain and simple.

Oh, let's all get the warp whistle and warp to "big world"! Too bad big world isn't fucking fun, like the rest of this game. The entire thing is designed to anger and frustrate you. Oh, you get Kuribo's shoe on one fucking level! Wow, pardon me while I make the universal motion for a handjob. Kuribo's shoe fucking sucked. What did it do, exactly? It let you JUMP ON THINGS, something you were able to do the entire fucking game. Oh, also you looked gay.

There are some interesting power-ups in the game, such as Tanookie Mario, Hammer Mario, and Frog Mario. But guess what? You can get them on like 2 levels total, and if you fuck up and get hit ONCE, you lose them, FOREVER. Wow, that's fun! I love games that demand I play perfectly or have no fun, because I'm a fucking jap who strives for absolute perfection in gaming otherwise I kill myself.

Mario 3 may have been interesting or fun at one time, but the game is a worthless piece of shit in today's day and age. It's horribly flawed and full of punch-in-the-dick moments, much more so than it has moments that are just fun to play.

>>1469423
I appreciate your parody of the average /v/ user.

>>1469432
It's copypasta.

mario 3 feels more like a proper mario game, because the physics are nuanced. also the level design is fucking deep. also the art design is genius and timeless and batshit insane and probably irreversibly influenced my mind.

smw has star road tho.

smb3 is from hell. but its still better then smw

3

Mostly because it wasn't playing the same track over and over again like most Mario games do.

World didn't have much level variety either.

>>1467776
the only true answer to this thread

How many levels total are in Mario 3, not counting the bonus stuff? I can never find a site that says it, and I'm too lazy to go through SMB3 again and count. Maybe someday I will...

Super Mario World. I spent so long exploring all the levels and finding all the secrets. Finally completing Star Road felt great. I know it's not as challenging, but when you're riding Yoshi, does that really matter all that much?

>>1467941
>tfw you will never go to eReader land
suffering

>>1469569
90 levels.

World wins for me, bags of character, super charming. SMB3 is good in its own way but World comes out on top

>>1469585
>90 level
wow, so smw only had 1 more stage? that's pretty impressive for a nes game

>>1467697
But that's wrong.

Whoever says SMW is easy has never played the water levels (cunt sleeper fish that pursue Mario indefinitely & whom he can't kill unaided — stop for more than a couple seconds, and the half-dozen fish who've been shadowing Mario all close in for the kill), the forest levels, the star-world levels, or the God-forsaken black-screen levels. Or dodged green bubbles and swarms of ghosts in the ghost levels, or played the dungeons. One of the dungeons has a fucking wizard who follows Mario around, can't be killed, and casts spells & shit which Mario can't defend — and if you manage to dodge them, then they take out the blocks lining the floor over molten lava or spikes. Speaking of spikes, ever tried avoiding them falling on you while on a tiny platform, as in SMW? Or avoiding falling spikes while underwater (with Mario's maneuverability slowed considerably)? Didn't think so.

>>1469619
>wow, so smw only had 1 more stage?

Super Mario World only has 72 levels (with 96 exits)

>>1469632 - clarification
>ever tried avoiding them falling on you while on a tiny platform
*while the only thing Mario has to stand on is a tiny platform which is in motion

I also just remembered that some of the spikes "fall" upwards from the floor.

>>1469632
>hurr durr i'm a casual

I had more trouble with 21st century Mario games than SMW. You tell me another Mario game that let's you take a fucking cape or blue Yoshi to nearly every level in the game. You tell me a Mario game where you have an ability to bounce off nearly every enemy in the game. ML2 is the Mario game that is easier than SMW and it's not even an actual Mario game by the series standards.

>>1469569
what do you mean by bonus stuff? anyway i counted 88 levels.

>>1469761
toad houses, spades, coin ships, hammer bros., stuff like that.

>>1469584
why? all you need is a GBA emulator / rom and e-reader save fine. Its super simple.

>>1469641
Super Mario World has 72 levels with 96 exits. (168 Total)

Super Mario Bros 3 has 90 levels with 90 exits. (180 Total.)

>>1469953
what about the levels with the whistles? Don't they count as a different exit?

>>1469953

>>1469981
what?

>>1469423

I prefer SMB3, but i agree with this copy pasta

I love the boot… too bad its only in one level.

Fucking Tanooki Suit.
Fucking Frog Suit.
Fucking Hammer Suit.
Fucking Racoon Suit.


Fucking Yoshi.
Fucking Cape.

It's not even close.

>SMB3
>less obnoxious autoscrolling stages
>more and more interesting power ups
>great difficulty
>can't replay stages until post game
>stages are more concise
>physics are tighter
>enemies are interesting

>SMW
>much more and better secrets
>can replay stages whenever
>fewer power ups, 'broken' power ups (cape, yoshi)
>longer stages
>physics are somewhat floatier than 3
>enemies behave strangely compared to other series entries

Personally I prefer 3 but World has its merits.

>>1467941
You know what is really missing? Yoshi ereader cards & alternative characters to play as. Having the ereader unlock SMB2 Peach & Toad and Yoshis would have really added a twist to SMB3. Thou I guess they're a little too game breaker-ish. Well, not like a lot of extras are not anyway.

>>1470243
Probably too much work just for that feature. The original versions of those characters can't even swim or use powerups.

>>1470073

More doesn't mean better. The Racoon and Frog were cool especially the latter. They should have just made all water levels with the frog suit since they're shit with normal mario

Yoshi is great. Especially since he has different abilities depending on the shell he eats. Its just neat to ride on Yoshi

>>1470110

Wow, I disagree with you on a lot of things. Both games had pretty bad autoscrolling stages. The ones in 3 were actually very obnoxious IMO. The airships are fucking terrible and boring, and the other autoscrolling stages suck. I don't find the game particularly difficult either.

Also do you think "stages are more concise" is a good thing? To me the problem was they were too short which makes them feel gimmicky. They end so abruptly and seem to have little flow or momentum. It makes doing the levels on the world map tedious because it's constantly start/stop.

I do hate auto scrolling so much. They're only good when they're hard and have a shitload of stuff to avoid like in World 8. I even consider theat one stage in SMW, where you ride on the lava, to be auto scrolling even though its techically not. Why do games make you wait, especially if its easy and slow as shit? Thats one thing the original SMB didnt have.

>>1470250
I don't think the basic swimming animations would be much of a problem, nor adding a tail, etc to existing pixels. The real issue is having to design complete alternative character sets for suits like the hammer bros & tanooki suits.

>>1469423
If a game doesn't punish you for sucking, the game sucks itself. There are no unfair deaths in SMB3, so basically you're just crying because you don't know how to play the game.

>You can get them on like 2 levels total
hahahaha lrn2secretsandgoingdownpipes

>>1469701
I see you addressed none of the evidence I gave of areas where SMW is a lot harder than its predecessor, then you backed your counterargument with exaggerations and assertions without evidence.

>You tell me another Mario game that let's you take a fucking cape or blue Yoshi to nearly every level in the game.
Not true of SMW, moron. (Good luck flying over any World 3 level, or any dungeon for that matter).

>You tell me a Mario game where you have an ability to bounce off nearly every enemy in the game
What an oddly particular point, presented entirely without evidence or citation. Like your previous point, it smells of bullshit, considering SMW has enemies like disk saws, ghosts, snap-dragons, green bubbles, and spike-top cactus segments. It also adds a lot more complexity, which probably confused you: you can jump on the caterpillars without incurring direct damage, but then they become super-aggressive.

>>1470339
>responding to pasta

>>1466675
/v/ also does polls like this every so often, and world dominated over every mario game. and unlike strawpolls samefagging didn't help smb3

>>1471592
>I see you addressed none of the evidence

a paragraph wining about how you suck at an easy game hardly constitutes "evidence"

3. The very fact that people argue this proves that 3 is better. No one argues whether 1 is better than 3, and that's because 3 made 1 obsolete. World failed to make 3 obsolete, and that's because it's an inferior game.

>>1471794

that's the most insane logic jump i've ever seen on 4chan, congrats

>>1471592
There actually are very few enemies in Super Mario World that can't be skipped off with a spin jump.

>>1471794
nobody argues whether or not 64 is better than 3, therefore 64 is better

World.
Despite growing up with Super Mario Bros 3 it's the one Mario game I've never been able to finish. I always get bored and quit by World 6, while I've finished every other game in the series aside from NSMB2.
I've tried so many times to finish it and like it, but for some fucking reason it's never clicked with me like the the first two, World and the 3D games. I don't even know why.

>>1471724
> Final Fantasy 7

>>1469341
Mode 7? I thought that was the semi 3D effect that games like F-Zero and Mario Kart had, not SMW.

I think you're thinking of another mode.

>>1471592
>has enemies like disk saws, ghosts, snap-dragons, green bubbles, and spike-top cactus segments
You can spin jump on most if these tho..

>>1471592
>What an oddly particular point, presented entirely without evidence or citation are you new to this game?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qtSXMrbl_78

I'm going with world

>dat special zone

>>1471592
>What an oddly particular point, presented entirely without evidence or citation.
Are you new to this game?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qtSXMrbl_78

>>1467739
American Kafka > Japanese Kafka

I played both.

World is the superior game.

>>1471592
>Like your previous point, it smells of bullshit, considering SMW has enemies like disk saws, ghosts, snap-dragons, green bubbles, and spike-top cactus segments.
Are you trolling or just incredibly retarded?

>>1471819
I've never seen anyone argue that SMW is better than Imagine Party Babies
I think we can draw our own conclusions from this

>>1467941
I would buy those levels off the eShop, and I bought it the first time and still have my cart somewhere. Plus, World-e, eShop, yeah?

Its probably been since 3rd grade since I played Mario 3 on the gba, but I remember being more 'immersed' in it than smw.

Both great though.

It depends on my mood, to be honest. Like, for around this entire month I've been thinking that SMB3 is better, but if you asked me mid February, I would've said Super Mario World. Both are simply masterpieces.

SMW

Mario 2, because not only did it sport unconvential, unique gameplay and interesting, semi-nonlinear level design, but it introduced a lot of tropes that would later get absorbed into the franchise. Also I liked being able to select from one of four characters.

>>1473664
>I can't read

>>1473679
But I think 2 is better than 3 and World.

>>1473823
>mario 3 vs world thread
>simple which out of the two are better
>ignores thread topic completely
>mario 2 is better and my opinion should be heard!!!!!

>why?

Super Mario World because it doesn't have a shit ending like Super Mario 3 does.

>>1474762
But that Mario 3 ending theme though...

In hindsight, 3 is better.

Mario 3 is better

Source: my opinion which is objectively the best.