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If you don't have your copy of the Dreamcast's swan song, I suggest you pick it up. Holy shit.

>> No.1458567

>>1458564

Dude, I know.

It's amazing and worth every penny.

>> No.1458569
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1458569

I don't even understand how these graphics are possible on the Dreamcast.

>> No.1458572

>>1458569
Instead of of building a physics engine that recreates lighting and is a resource hog, you hire an artist who can paint to achieve an even better effect. Resource cost is minimal, but you gotta have talent. With Unreal Engine 3 you can just pour 50 million into the project and see what happens, no talent required.

>> No.1458576

>>1458572

If you see it in motion, the lighting appears dynamic. I think what's actually happening is that large parts of the background are prerendered FMV. But then parts of it move and interact with the foreground in a way they shouldn't be able to. So it's not the entire background just sections of it.

Some serious smoke and mirrors going on here.

>> No.1458582

>>1458576
Sounds actually great, it does.

>> No.1458584

>>1458576

Well, it's a 200Mhz machine. I don't know what else you expect.

>> No.1458586

>>1458582
Watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zy2k_iwJDY#t=4m02

>> No.1458596

>>1458564
>Dreamcast's swan song

The dream isn't over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Blade

>> No.1458598

>>1458576
FMV would eat up loads of disc space and would be noticeable regarding resolution. If anything, they could just be hi-res animated gifs, not unlike what SNK used to do with certain Samurai Shodown backgrounds.

>> No.1458616

>>1458596

There's also Scourge and Hypertension coming this year.

>> No.1458615

>>1458586
Holy shit. This game is pretty.

>> No.1459176

>>1458616
lets not forget Solar Pier HD

>> No.1459334

>>1459176
>>1458616
and Elysian Shadows.

>> No.1459613

>>1458564
Don´t want to start a new thread, just a little question: As a fan of RPG´s, is the Dreamcast any good?

>> No.1459706

>>1459613
Not really.

>> No.1463071

>>1459613
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia

>> No.1463464

where does this thread lie regarding the /vr/ rules...

the game came out last year, but on a retro console....


i don't give a fuck actually, this game looks fucking awesome

>> No.1463474

>>1463071

Evolution
Elemental Gimmick Gear

>> No.1463475

>>1463464
>forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier

>> No.1463695

The swam song was a game called Karous. This is just unlicensed garbage made to pander to idiot fanboys.

>> No.1463719

>>1458564
This is so polished.

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>>1463695
That reminds me

>looking up last games for each console
>last N64 game came out in 2002
>last NeoGeo game came out in 2004

Tell me, how was the Neo Geo considered to be a failure when it was supported for 14 years, when the quintessential 90's kid console only lasted for 6?

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1465649

How do people make games for this console independently? Could anyone make a game for the Dreamcast?

>> No.1465662

>>1463728
Japanese homebrews?

>> No.1465665

>>1465649
There is one, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunlord

>> No.1465669

>>1465649
Thanks to the MIL-CD format anyone can release a dreamcast game if they want to without licensing from sega

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIL-CD

>> No.1465678

>>1465665
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunlord
Pier Solar is also coming to Dreamcast. A game was just recently released for Dreamcast, but I don't recall the name of it.

>> No.1465689

Any place to get it at a cheaper price ?
Anyone here played it yet ?

>> No.1465730

>>1463728
The arcade version was a major success in Japan at least, and any restaurant or business that I've been to in this area of the US that has arcade machines has at least one Neo Geo. It was only the home version that was a failure.

>> No.1465745

>>1465689
>Any place to get it at a cheaper price ?

What, Sturmwind? No, I don't think so.

I bought it from Redspotgaming's store for 35-eurobucks. At least the money is going to the devs.

>Anyone here played it yet ?

Yes, it fucking rocks. Reminds me of a Toaplan game.

>> No.1465756

>>1465730
Because the home system was the arcade system, the msrp was $649.

>> No.1465980

>Euroshmups
lol

>> No.1466050

>>1465980

It has none of the pitfall that you'd expect.

>> No.1466073

>>1465980
>If it's made in Europe it's automatically a Euroshmup

kill yourself

>> No.1466113

>>1458569
>>1458572
>>1458576
I watched the video. The vast majority of the graphics are prerendered, even if they rotate a bit. The "dynamic lighting" for the most part was just simple 2D color blending effects.

It looks pretty cool, but rotating sprites is not exactly a demonstration of the untapped power of the Dreamcast. The real magic here is in whatever they used for offline rendering. Kinda unfair to shit on the Unreal Engine (as much as I hate it) and the devs that use it when the devs of this game had just as much of their work done for them by offline rendering with even fancier lighting algorithms than a real time game would have available..

>> No.1468360

>>1466073

You seem like something's bothering you, and I don't think it's Euroshmups. What's making you upset?

>> No.1468383

Any legit places to get Fast Striker? if not I'm pirating.