/vr/ - Retro Games

I don't have any right now but I'm looking foward to this thread.

Not beta but some early enemies supposed to be in Rockman 7. They ended up being the X-Hunters in X2.

>>1459795
>Imagine what the Piranha Flower would look like in 3-D as it comes at you!
>There's a picture in the bottom
I laughed

OOT had a real forest ala ALTTP

The majority of interesting (e.g. heavily changed) beta stuff seems to be on N64, for some reason. Wonder if there's a reason for that.

>>1459842

Shit like this makes me so sad. I want to explore that forest forever.

>>1459861

Nintendo wanted everyone to have sex with the DD and then when it failed everyone had to move their shit over. They also had very mediocre devkits (way more powerful than the real 64) before the system itself was released.

>>1459867
looks like one of those cardboard boundaries

>>1459861
size limits would probably the biggest reason to cut content

>>1459878
That's kind of what I was thinking. Must have been a harsh development environment.

>>1459842
Wasn't that also a thing in TP? The original trailers had a legit forest and the actual game had a gimped set of paths.

>>1459878

That, and the Nintendo 64 was originally going to play games on CD.

>>1459884
What's weird is VPW2, the game pictured there, has tons of unused sound samples and texture data. I have no idea how much space that kind of stuff takes up but I'd think a lot. The outdoor arena is still in the game, just not with daylight conditions.

>>1459883

i thought that at first but there actually appears to be a monster or something in the trees

now that i think about it, there was a similar lost beta element from twilight princess; like a big dark forest that looked really spooky

>>1459842
Looks more like the forest battle scenes of Zelda 2 to me.

>>1459887
I heard that they're working on a forest for the new game too. I guess making a giant forest is their way of seeing what they want to do and also test the engine.

Half life on the quake engine.

>>1459949
Aslo, Gordon Freeman. Is it retro though? If not, ban me.

>>1459952
Jesus, he looks like a cross between Gordon and Barrett.

>>1459842
>screenshot obviously taken early in development
>at the time when screenshots like this were released, the game's then-projected release date seemed so far into the distant future
>whenever the date came, Nintendo had, by then, delayed the game
>now the game's been out for over a decade
>still haven't seen dat forest
>mfw

>>1459952

The character was originally going to be called "Ivan the Space Biker".

Donovan's early Blizzard Sword special, completely different from what it is in the finished game. In the finished game he shoots a big snowflake that travels forward in a shallow arc, but here he makes his sword come flying down at an angle from the top of the screen covered in ice, as seen in the top-right of this screenshot. Including this, there are lots of tales that are told about the location tests for Darkstalkers 2, since Capcom apparently did a rather extensive location test campaign for it all across Japan and lots of people played it. Donovan was overall a much stronger character during those tests, despite ending up being the second worst character in the finished game.

>>1459986
No, that was his codename

Nintendo almost made Cammy wear pants.

>>1459842
>>1459941

Those are 2D Sprites for a backdrop. You can see Link on a small path that looks walled in.

>>1460053

>spats

Feels conflicted, man.

>>1459987
>location test

Is there a rom dump of this beta?

>>1459795
Are there are Mario 64 romhacks that make the gameplay more linear. Not necessarily linear levels, but more like the originals sequential levels. Always liked the gameplay in Mario 64, but not so much the overall level design...

>>1460673
Why does Akira look like a Sikh?

Starcraft beta.

aka Warcraft II: In Space!

amidoinitrite?

>>1460493
How about Mario Galaxy? Or Mario 3D World? That's pretty much what those are.

Personally, I have no idea why you'd want to ditch the best part of Mario 64, but to each their own.

>>1460695
I'd kill to play that

>>1460728
your eyes would be also killed.

>>1460705

>GBA port built in

Man that would have been nice

>>1459795
>check out the smoke from the giant Bullet Bill
Man, those were the days.

Question: If the beta screenshot is from pre 2000 but the game was released after that can i still post it?

>>1460783
yes post it

>>1460783
Nobody needs to be reminded of what Duke Forever would have been like.

>>1460809

>>1461049
Sorry for smal pic, this is the biggest one i could find

>>1461059
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBM9ywsJ_zY

>>1461078
>2006
>nVidia flamethrower
Jesus, that joke is older than I ever thought.

Old monster concept for Quake.

>pisses on dead bodies

Christ.

>>1461329
>mentions that he pisses more times than it mentions how he attacks

This is Quake, not Postal 2.

>>1461059
Thank god they changed up that color palette. I'm not a big fan of Halo, but the graphics are at least nice to look at because of the bright colors.

>>1460705
>maximum resolution: 1980x1080

Not to mention that dumbass render of someone's 15-year-old delusion. Who the fuck puts those things together?

>>1461337
>>1461337
Agreed. The bright suits are one reason I can stand to look at that game, and they're funny too.

>>1460117
Nope, I wish there was though. From what I here there are still a few boards floating about out there, so maybe someday it will get dumped.

Here's another difference from said beta: Morrigan in the attract sequence had her normal color scheme rather than the alternate blonde one seen in the finished game.

>>1461084
Thats was a commercial from 2000~

>>1460705
Iwata would get richer if he pulle that off. Imagine how many dumbasses would buy these.

>>1461049
>>1461059
I remember there being a couple of pages about it in an old gaming magazine. It was going to be mac exclusive.

>>1461590
fingers don't work like that

>>1460695
Does the ground have eyes? Oh god

supposedly theres footage of the virtua fighter 3 beta for saturn floating around. every search i've done brings up sites with supermodel emulator pics claiming to be the beta images. anyone have info? also, here's shenmue on saturn: http://youtu.be/kUe9ASlu9Us

Anyone looking for beta stuff try unseen64 and the cutting room floor

>>1462153
It's Capcom. And Bengus no less. If you're looking for realistic anatomy, you're in the wrong neighborhood.

>>1460053
Criminal

Zero Tolerance on genesis had some big changes over time. And i'm assuming not in a good way. Some items was removed and texture quality somewhat lower.

I had this issue when I was a kid, shame I threw it away at some point.

>>1462696
>MGS3 Ocelot is best ocelot

>>1460053
>my boner when

>>1461590
is that jizz?

>>1462713
knowing her, probably

>>1460053
honestly, skintight shorts on Cammy would actually give me a rise

>>1460695
>This is not Warcraft in space!
>It's much more sophisticated!

>>1459949
>>1459952
holy shit that's awful

>>1460695
those colours god fucking dammit

>>1459861
Good point. Here's why I think that is:

1) N64 DD was shit and games had to be ported to the normal n64
2) 3d gaming was in its infancy, and developers weren't as experienced as they were with 2d games.

>>1462696
>Ever since QUAKE came out, similar first-person shooters were all over the place
>Just like users get bored of recycled ideas, we get bored the same way.
>We didn't want to do another first-person shooter

>>1463125

>>1462702
It's hard to choose between the Ocelots

>>1462223
pretty ure those are just bubbles of that gooey zerg stuff

Yes, please

>>1461590

Nice cute anon, its yours?

>>1460686
Because that's not him, it's some Arabic-themed character that at the end never came up in VF1 and in the series. Akira was added when they had to add in the rooster a shotoclone (or better, a Ryu clone), which is kinda hilarious, since the archetype is a character that's pretty easy to understand and play with, while Akira is a pretty difficult character.

>>1462343
It's always kinda depressing to see that they had already did some of Shenmue 2 parts, meaning they already had the idea of a long saga. Now look what we got now.

not strictly /vr/ but there's no place for it on /v/

i can't find very much info about this game other than it was cancelled because of wcw being bought out by vince mcmahon and that the engine was passed on to the def jam games

>>1462694
eh.

>>1463504

>>1463508

>>1463510

>>1463513

>>1463513
>The ring was supposed to be an open world, unlike linear level design such as Half life.
Ha.

Oh shit, I just realised I have 150+ issues of Edge magazine from 1996 onward I picked up last year.

I bet there are a lot of these in there.
It's a pity I have no time to read any of them.

>>1461329
>Pissquake

>>1462713
It's probably that dream-juice stuff her canon fluff talks about.

>>1463175
Nope, just an image I found in the internet, apparently taken by someone who got to play one of those location test boards that was being featured at some arcade a couple years ago.

>>1463125

To be honest, despite it eventually turning into an FPS, Halo did try to do things different and is a hell of a lot different than Quake

>>1464535
Halo was definitely an FPS from the start. Read the books nigga.

>>1463483
Oh god, that looks horrendous. Wow. But actually the Def Jam games were done by AKI using their own engine.

>>1463434
Well, he did make it into Fighters Megamix.

>>1464554

It started as a third person shooter.

Also, the books are based on the game.

>>1459842
Not exactly. It was always the Lost Woods (first called Maze Woods) meaning it was always limited to a degree by repetition. There are rumors stretching as far back as OoT (see Sam's interview on Zeldapower) that the poe seen in the beta screens and that you can vaguely see there in the backgrounds behind the volumetric fog was a guide like the Haunted Wasteland in the final game. However there was never any merit to it *until* ALBW came out which feature what else, a poe guide.

>>1460053
>spats
Goddamn, that could have almost been sexier!

>>1461329
all dat emphasis on piss is hilarious

Sonic 2, those lost stages, like the desert zone, the wood zone and Hidden Palace.

Lookin pretty dope there, Leon and uh.... Elza.

>>1467960
I was more hooked for RE0 on N64. It looked MUCH BETTER than the one we ended up getting, plus the feeling of 'been there, done that' that we get from RE0 wouldn't have been so strong had it been released earlier.

Rayman for the SNES

>>1467993

the 2D version of Rayman 2

Jazz Jackrabbit 1

>>1468004
an even earlier image

>>1464586
>horrendous
well that was 2000 WCW in general

>>1467972
How did it look "MUCH BETTER"? Do you have any gameplay information or videos to assume so?

I thought RE0 was pretty good and the screenshot you posted just looks like the same thing but worse graphics.

>>1459949
I'm pretty sure that goldSrc, the Half Life engine, was just a heavily modified quake engine anyway.

>>1468179
I wonder if RX and RY became Vile and Zero, or if it was the writer's asspull.

Nice view of level 10 from Doom 2. Except that it's from an alpha version of Doom...

>>1468004
>hill top zone

>>1468179
That daylight highway

>>1468183
That article seems filled with asspulls. It mentions a "special new head on" attack (what?), assumes X is the same Megaman (passable), has a giant drawing of X that is nothing like even his sprite design (is it fan art or something?), and the picture with the bee/fly copter has a caption about bosses being more spectacular. If the author even played that segment, it's pretty damn obvious that it isn't a boss, and we have no other evidence of it being a boss in the past. It's not even mini-boss level "spectacular".

I have to say though, the screenshots make it look like the ruined highway intro stage transitioned to daytime (one of the day shots has the plane/airship/whatever that Vile drops out of in it). That would have been awesome.

>>1467996
>>1468001
Damm it, some ROMs for these bad boys exist?

>>1468586
One level was an unlockable secret in the Playstation version of the Rayman 2.

>>1467996
At least we got Plok, right?

>>1468001
>tfw Rayman 2 was almost a potentially great sequel instead of a below-average 3D platformer

>>1468001
>>1468648
I like this way more than the final game.

>>1461590
i've seen this before at my rollerskate place.
i remember being confused when i would play the game at other places because morg was blonde, i thought it was an update or something like Champion Edition.

I sure could use some screens for Castlevania: The Bloodletting 32X.

>>1462782
Why did the Protoss in Brood War looked like gungans?

In the Flesh - a game from 1996 that later became Serious Sam.

http://www.serioussam.wikia.com/wiki/In_the_Flesh

>>1469752

Wait, do screens for that game exist? I know I've seen sprites from it though.

Resident Evil 3, starring Alison Lohman

>>1469781

>marioro

10/10

>>1469950
That chain is still in the game. A gameshark will put it in your item box.

It doesn't do shit though.

>>1469950
Damn, never saw this. any more?

>>1469781
This looks like the japanese version.

>>1469973
>>1469973
I found that one few months ago, I remember some video about flinging visible zombie heads when they clutch to your leg but I can't remember what's the link...it was some RE forum. Anyway, found this just now:
http://www.unseen64.net/2009/07/03/resident-evil-3-psx-beta/

The first video signifies you were to have a broader access behind the bus.

>>1470047
Wow, great stuff! I wonder why they didn't use the 'destroyed' save room in the parking lot, they could have put it after when the gravedigger ruins the place, it would have fit. Also I love the sound and effect of the pistol, it feels so powerful, like a real gun, while in the real game that gun feels like a toy. Maybe it felt too powerful compared to more powerful guns though which is why they changed it...

>>1470061
I have to concur with the pistol, it's better in the final release.
I think that bus entrance would lead to the power station, I remember some barricaded door or street front it, and the same street would lead to the park or hospital or both. If that's the case, it must've meant for a quick cross. Good thing they scratched the last idea.

I maybe dilating but there's a grate box hanging near the land of the stair, that leads to the power station shaft, that might've meant for something.

Super smash bros beta (aka Dragon King: A Fighting Game)

>>1470279

>>1469781
>>1470046
Yeah, that's the japanese version, not some lost beta.
http://tcrf.net/Mario_Kart_64#Billboards

Would be nice to have a romhack to change them back though.

>>1461329
in "masters of Doom" Romero and Hall supposidly considered this in Wolfenstein 3d

>>1467960
Leon looks like DONTE in that artwork

>>1469939
Two screenshots have been reported to exist. Someone claims it's similar to the final level of Rondo, but has the Rival going up the stairs.

Imagine if Castlevania V had come out on 32X and the SotN team had never been formed. We could still be getting real Castlevania games instead of sub-par Metroid clones...

Damn, that would be awesome.

>>1468179
>robopolice
>half human, half robot
Man, that sounds kinda dumb but awesome at the same time. I wonder if this was a result of a mistranslation or if it was their idea all along? Seems kind of an edgy idea for the franchise.

Man, I kinda dig that prototype X, I wish we had more shots of it, specially that weird hand cannon.

>>1470770
It almost sounds like what the plot would be if Capcom had decided to toughen-up/Westify the plot to MMX, which I think would have been pretty doable by simply rewriting dialogue and the manual.

What interests me most are the daylight city screens. I wonder if those were just mockups or from a build that was otherwise never committed to EPROMs, or if there really is some sample cart out there somewhere with a build containing that scene. The prior seems more likely, but you never know. Most obtainable prototypes of eventually released games are generally rather similar to the final builds for the most part, but there are always exceptions.

>>1470838
I'm pretty sure I've seen that daylight background in at least one more shot not in OP's scan, or in that magazine, for that matter.
It was X fighting that green bot midboss from Sting Chameleon's stage.

>>1470770
>Man, that sounds kinda dumb but awesome at the same time
DEAD OR ALIVE, YOU'RE COMING WITH ME.

>>1470860
FUCK YES!

>>1470852
That miniboss always seemed odd to me. It is quite generic looking and feels out of place in Sting Chameleon's stage (not to mention how the design of the robot almost seems out of place in MMX in general), and its surprising prominence on the Rockman X box art indicate to me that it was perhaps a leftover from an earlier incarnation of the game in which it might have better fit in and perhaps played a larger role than an out-of-the-way optional boss.

Seriously, that thing is third in prominence only to X and Sigma on the Rockman X box.

>>1464619
>>1464554
What? It was planned to be an RTS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvS_beXtXk

Still waiting for the day an ISO comes of this unfinished project. Now it's only a testament to the idiocy of Sega of Japan's leadership that they let internal politics keep a killer app like this from reaching store shelves.

>>1470279
So Captain Falcon was just a prettied up/refined/finished version of the placeholder? Seems like all the more reason to play as him.

Here's some scans I did of one of my favorite issues of gamepro

>>1472909
Body Harvest was one of the games I was most looking forward to back in the day. It ended up kinda cool but didn't really live up to my expectations.

>>1459842
OoT betas...hnnnng

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mononline/unseen/zelda2.htm

>>1463504
Little text in french in the picture:
An other world.
Halo, a true revolution in the action/adventure field.
Revolution! The americans of Bungie are about to release a great kick in the anthill of the PC game Halo, action and adventure software grounded into a solid scenario, everything in this game promises to be unseen before. After this race-pursuit in 3d inbetween humans et aliens to a strange ring shaped world, nothing will be like before on our screen. And forget about Starship Troopers, it was a walk in a park!

Bump

Here's a cool clip from a Polish tv show about Spaceworld 99. Has beta footage of GameBoy (not color) Pokemon G/S, Hey You Pikachu, 64DD games, 'Zelda 64', F-Zero, etc. One of the other videos from that show (don't remember if it's on that channel or not) has beta footage of some of the levels shown in the OP's image of Mario 64. I'll see if I can dig that up too.

>>1475691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4de7uwhoOyY
Let's try that again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7FM1_aCWUk

>That jump sound effect

>>1459952
Looks like the last dwarf from Morrowind

>>1468648
>Should do well if it stays on course

Mario 3 beta goodness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov8A5tz8MU0

I must say the grasslands Parabeetle level from the SMB3 box is probably the origin of my prototype games fetish.

>>1475712
Great, now I need to learn how rozumiecz polska.

>>1473627
translate the part where they say the ring is a whole living open world. That's funny now with perspective.

>>1467960

The RE2 beta looked fairly action packed.
Like no joke, the more footage I keep seeing of that game, it looked like a light gun shooting with tank controls.

>>1470279
>>1470282

damn that's awesome

>>1470770
That "half man/half robot" shit was going on all the time with people who played Megaman back in the 90s.

I still don't know where the fuck it comes from, either. Unless THIS article is what made people think Dr. Light robotized some kid into Megaman, and when he grew up, he became X.t

>>1469950
>Alison Lohman
>Lohman

11/10 would love to play as a jewess

>>1467952
Didn't they put Hidden Palace in the iOS port of Sonic 2?
I think they put it in that spike pit that no one could get out of in Mystic Cave zone.

FF7 on N64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5l0A3zzEgw

>>1472909
i like how the ocarina of time beta shot is just thrown in there. theres not even like a little subtitle describing what it is like they thought nobody would care.

Mega Man X1 beta music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xovVsaLeXw

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz5XeL444xPBcW60BiZF-ATzVS2lwVnoH

This is a pretty fascinating one from TamashiiHiroka. Link is a playlist.

She's 19 or 20 and a qt, so you'd expect it to be shit, but it's almost autistically comprehensive- she goes through glitches, alphas and betas for the whole pokeymen series

Lest we forget

Get ready to cry

>>1477910
this only makes me cry because the N64 could have had more than 1 good JRPG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oav_0MiyJpA

Does anyone else think this combat looks better than what we actually got?

>>1477910
No way

Is there any ROM of it?

>>1477926
Are you seriously this new to /vr/...?

>>1477926
No, but Mother 3 on the GBA is pretty much the exact same game but in 2D.

>>1477934
...apparently

Give me a tl;dr in greentext

>>1477926
Locked away somewhere. You'd have a better chance breaking into a military base.

>>1477918
>Paper Mario
>Ogre Battle
That's two.

>>1477928
It's not gameplay, though, just a cutscene running on what became the N64 to show it's graphical capabilities and frame-rate, much like the 2000 GameCube Zelda footage, and 2012's Wii U "Zelda HD Experience".

>>1477940
Mother 3 was originally in development for the N64 DD, when the N64 DD bombed they tried to move development to the N64, they apparently got about 70% of the game done before Nintendo cancelled the project because the Gamecube was about to be released and it would be too expensive to completely redo the games graphics and whatnot to look like a Gamecube game.
Later the team got back together and remade the game on the GBA.

>>1477949
So where's the 70% completed version?

>>1477926

Only a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcd9VnnXSQ

>>1477954
Never released. Just talked about in interviews.

>>1477954
Locked somewhere in Nintendo's offices in Kyoto, assuming it wasn't destroyed already.

Ditto with Ura Zelda.

2 or 3 years ago, there was this rumor of this guy in a forum (I forgot his username, anybody does?) who had gotten a disc of Ura Zelda, but a few weeks later his brother posted the guy died of somebullshit.

It's a bullshit story, but given Nintendo's history with the Yakuza, trying to get either of those might actually endanger people who attempt to do so.

>>1477949
According to Miyamoto it was 80% complete.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/36385/nintendo-64-version-of-mother-3-was-at-least-80-percent-complete

>>1477961
>American guy got a disc of Ura Zelda from Nintendo headquarters in Japan, and then later was killed in America by the Japanese Yakuza
Likely story.

>>1477956
Fuck, we need to find a way to get hold of that

>>1477964
I said already, it's a bullshit story.

But I've noticed Nintendo betas leak very rarely, if anything, SEGA's far more prone to that kind of shit happening. Makes me wonder if real-life connections between Nintendo and Yakuza are still on-going or just super-tight security.

>>1477973
Ah, I misread your post.
I thought you were saying that it was bullshit (as in it sucks that) that Nintendo hired the Yakuza to kill the guy

>>1477976
Ah, I didn't expect it could be intepreted that way.

Welp, anyway, I just have hopes someday Ura and Mother 3 get leaked online, just like how the Ocarina and Majora's debug ROM did. Beta stuff interests me big time, I'm always eager to try and see what could have been.

... and I'm still angry that Nintendo axed the sword beam from Ocarina of Time.

The GBA version of Mother 3 feels rushed and incomplete to me, especially compared to the promised exploration and features from the N64 version...

>>1477985
I haven't slept in two is why, it was my fault.
But I'm also a sucker for this type of stuff. I used to spend all of my fucking time on Odyssey of Hyrule back in Elementary School.

>>1477994
>Odyssey of Hyrule
Oh my.
http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/zelda64.htm

>>1477996
http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/zgaiden2.htm
>For instance, oddly enough, he will be able to turn into a Gerudo. (I think
What the fuck is this autistic motherfucker talking about? I don't remember anything from the MM beta about being able to become a Gerudo.

>>1477994
>Spent Elementary School browsing internet for Zelda sited
>Looking at info on beta OoT and Ura.

My nigga, I did the exact same thing.

>>1478003
Did you happen to post on Nsider as well by any chance?

>>1467960
who the fuck is Elza Walker?

>>1467996
>Far before the Jaguar and Playstation versions, Michel Ancel and his team were going to develop Rayman on SNES. Regardless from the fact that the development was pretty advanced, the game was scrapped to support the CD format. Here some exclusive images of this cancelled version.

Sorry for my French, I hope I got everything right
and sorry for my English as well

>>1467996
>fat rayman

>>1477849
Did that green claw robot ever make an appearance in any of the other MMX games? I don't remember him.

>>1478005
No, sorry, back then I wasn't confident in my english to participate on forums or other websites.

>>1470286
>OcarinaBeta.gif

That can't possibly be true, can it? This was just a pre-rendered SGI demo featuring Link, not even a playable game.

>>1478116
see >>1477946

>>1477896
We got a breadbin in the end, so the toaster idea wasn't too far off.

>>1478153
>breadbin
It was a George Foreman Grill.

>>1477894
I actually knew Tamashii even before she was famous. I was best friends with one of her online friends.

>>1478218
I don't mean to be rude, but is she a bit...odd? She seems like a bit of a shut-in.

Seems like a nice girl though. Have you met her irl?

>>1478221
Haven't met her irl. I talked to her in YouTube PM from time to time. I don't remember much because I was 13/14 at the time (19 now), but I do remember that she was very friendly. I was closer to one of her online friends personally. I've been meaning to catch up with her, but I'm too shy to try to contact her after all these years.

>>1478229
You should, she seems like she'd be pretty open to that. Throw her a message or something, couldn't hurt

>>1477928
Nope but I leik.

>>1478221
Maybe you aren't used to seeing female YouTubers who are apparently genuinely interested in games beyond fumbling through some CoD game while giggling about how terrible they are at it (and OMG I'M A GURL LIKE COMMENT SUBSCRIBE)

>>1478074
You fought it to get the armor upgrade in X1 but I don't recall it being in any other games.

>>1478381
I know this was intended as a sharp reply, but it could actually be the case- she's kind of like a cute female version of a regular LP autist- i.e. nice but ever so slightly autistic

>>1478386
I was actually being semi-serious. When I personally think of a YT gurlgamer, I generally think of shit like iJustine.

>>1478003
>>1478005

My nigger(s). Tell me you two have read up on tcrf about the debug rom and saw that project of dubious reputation Zeth was working on?

>>1478462
I saw Zeth's project, sad it was cancelled.
Did you also post on Nsider? I was a total fucknut back then but I spent so much of Elementary and Middle school and those forums it wasn't even funny.

>>1478471
No, I didn't. Never really participated much at all with posting - internet wasn't consistently available to me then.

To this day I find myself getting lost in wonder watching beta videos, looking at cut content or stuff that's been leaked from Zeth's project.

From what I've heard Zeth or Spire were a total villain that ruined the project. Each has their supporters but one or both fucked up big time and took down the project.

If you want to discuss more zelda beta/unreleased stuff, email me. I'm sure we each know a thing or two that the other doesn't.

Ever get into the "beta quest" stuff with a gameshark?

>>1478473
Not that anon, but oh my god did I. I remember finding an old code site claiming to have codes that would take you to unfinished levels in Mario 64... I don't remember exactly what they were called, but it was something like Disco World, Burning Rock World, Coca Cola World (!?) etc...

Turns out all the codes did was swap some textures and colors around. "Disco World" for example was just trippy colors, not an actual disco-themed level. Word could not have described my fury.

So. Not one fucking word about this?

Step up your beta game, guys.

>>1462710
I didn't come here to f-fap, anon....

>>1459952
He looks like an angry dwarf
What the fuck why

>>1462696
oh no, other /a3g/ nerds are in here

>>1479089
That's hilarious.

The beta quest for ocarina was similar, it just shuffled the pointers I believe for exits. So basically, you could walk into hyrule square and end up in a kokiri shop. The reason it came to be known as the "beta quest" was because sometimes it would point towards an old version of a room/area still in the code.

Still, nothing terribly cool in it.

>>1459949

"Half-Life (1998) – Valve Corporation (Half-Life uses the Quake-based GoldSrc engine)"

>>1479405
Gotta say, those visuals are pretty fucking stellar for an n64 game.

>>1477910
I'm interested in what Itoi had in mind for the original ending. Supposedly, he wanted to go super hard on the player, and the one we got in the GBA version was dumbed-down.

>>1477973
>Nintendo betas leak very rarely
pretty fuckin' true
pretty fuckin' sad

notable exception is Mario Kart
http://www.snescentral.com/article.php?id=0874

There was a game based on the graphic novel 100 Bullets that was slated to come out for PS2. I think it got a cover story for Game Informer with a lot of screenshots. Then the company making it went out of business and a seriously stripped down version of the game got a Europe only release. Made me sad, that was my favorite comic

There was once a game Directed by film legend John Singleton.

It was called Fear and Respect and starred Snoop Dogg as the main Protag.

I used to have a GameInformer with this as the cover story. I guess it was ment to be a Third Person Shooter, Kinda like Max Payne and True Crime.

It was around the time San Andreas came out so it was based off the hype of that game since it took place in central LA.

It was a midway game though. which might of caused it demise but It's unknown really why it was cancelled. I just remember finding my GameInformer years after and wondered what happened to it.

From the Screenshots tho and this little trailer, It didn't really look like anything special.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQfFSfsAKwc

>>1481257


It was also supposed to be a open world sandbox game and had a Movie also in the works to tie in with the game.

I have no idea if the movie ever got made tho.

>>1481263

>The game was to be an open-world action-adventure, in the vein of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. It featured a "Respect" system, where interactions with other gang members, personal appearance and actions would earn the player respect from allies, also making enemies fear the player.

So i.e, a San Andreas clone.

It was gonna be a launch title for the Xbox360, PS3 and was gonna also come out for the PS2 and Xbox. I don't know if there was a PC port but most likely.

>>1481257
>>1481263
>>1481297

Sorry if it doesn't count as retro. But since it was gonna be made for the PS2 and Xbox. I thought it would be welcomed.

>>1463508
>the skull explodes in a very beautiful way
wtf?

>>1470264
>imagine playing a game with the latest Guns n Roses tune providing the background.
Lel did the SNES even have any licensed music?

>>1463549

It's true though, they totally wanted to make a non-linear game back then.

But then Microsoft happened...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI84riXyXoU

>>1482273

Occasionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWT-ITdmFss

>>1481305
>it was gonna be made for the PS2 and Xbox. I thought it would be welcomed.

I'm not sure why you thought that, since the sticky clearly states what counts as retro for this board.

>>1477910
>>1477926

We can rebuild him

we can bring him back to life

>>1479405
I thought it was a PC-game when I first saw it. Back then I thought PC was the best for graphics. It still is.

>>1472914
>All a dem vehikles

That's... something... special.

>>1482076
>all thoses promises compared to the final product.

>>1462153
Could you shut the fuck up forever, please?

>>1459885
The N64 is notorious for being a "difficult to develop for" console. Nintendo wanted to weed out all the "Austin Powers Pinball" shovelware, but that also weeded out all the actual good games that comes with Shovelware.

I scanned this recently. It still hurts.

>>1485065

>>1485068
Also this. Tobu looked pretty good, but it was cancelled in the end.

>>1485075

>>1485079
[not /vr/ but...]

Remember when Ninja Gaiden and Munch's Oddyssey were going to be on the PS2?

>>1485082
Forgot picture.

>>1485085

>>1485090
who's the black chick?
I stopped IX after awhile when X came out because i'm a faggot

>>1485090
I know the images can be found elsewhere, but early previews can be pretty neat, I think.

>>1485096
I think her design eventually became Lani. But most of those designs are so early they hardly resemble what was found in the final game.

>>1485097
More Zelda.

>>1485104
Last scan.

>>1459887
Same with Wind Waker. They literally do this every new engine.

>>1482280
Was that legitimate or was it sort of like Doom taking songs and changing them up a bit?

I remember when Xbox came out it was a really big deal to a lot of people that you could import your own soundtrack. Now it seems like people realized that that's a shitty gimmick anyways.

>>1467972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou85xyf3vis

>It looked MUCH BETTER than the one we ended up getting
I disagree.

>plus the feeling of 'been there, done that' that we get from RE0 wouldn't have been so strong had it been released earlier.
Again i disagree. It looks just like Resi2/3. If anything i would say the 'been there, done that' feeling is stronger with the N640 Version.

Still i would've loved to have played it. Id prefer to have both versions.

>>1482606
Holy fuck, please continue.

>>1485105
Thanks, this stuff is great.

>>1479572
I know of a few theories, based on existing sprites in the game. The main theories I've heard include making Kumatora into the last Magypsie and killing Porky. Personally, I bet that he'd have found a way to make even Porky's death feel like you were the bad guy, considering how well it ended up working for Fasaad

I've seen some other weird shit on youtube, but that spoiler contains the only semi-solid theory I know of. But yeah, from my understanding there is a good deal of content cut from M3 due to testers thinking it was too depressing.

>>1479564
They got some damn good-looking shit by the end of its lifespan. Rare's stuff for Dinosaur Planet is unreal.

>>1485168
No, it was legit. There were 4 or 5 songs in the game, and they were all the exact song they pretended to be. Same for Genesis version, though I believe the soundtrack there differed slightly.

>>1468369
So beautiful

>>1470256
Super mario 4...YOU FOOLS THERE WILL NEVER BE AN OFFICIAL SEQUEL MWAHAHAHAHAHA

>>1459795
Man that game is so hyper-realistic, I still haven't recovered.

>>1477824
And that's part of the reason why GamePro is/was such shit. They were pretty much dudebro before that became a thing, hence why they didn't seem to care about some game with a "faggy sword-wielding elf".

>>1482323
I never heard of that game before and thought what the guy had to say was interesting. Why be such a douche about it?

>>1485867
There was also a shmup for the SNES that had it's soundtrack replaced by the guy that did most the Space Jam soundtrack.

>>1470279
>>1470282

I wonder what that background is.

>>1487126
I remember when there was a mass exodus at the GamePro forums (2002 or 2003 maybe?) and many came to the one I frequented. They were obnoxious and everyone wanted them out. The level of discourse dropped significantly. Eventually a lot of them went off and created their own forum... and 75% of them were complete douchebags

>>1486835

I thought World was SMB4 in Japan

>>1487552
It was still called Super Mario World in Japan, but it DID have a little subtitle next to that which read "Super Mario Bros. 4."

>>1487568
Not to mention that they wanted to add that little subtitle on the titlescreen itself.

http://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_World_(SNES)#Older_Title_Screen_Graphics

>>1485097
>>1485104
>we will never see Ocarina for the first time again
Good to relive that anticipation.

>you will never play the game Ocarina of Time was supposed to be

>>1469781

>Marioro
>Luigip

noice

>>1470256

I wonder what that port on the right is for..

>>1482273

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IahjxHQ388s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OGEH-oArHY

>>1488179
It looks reminiscent of the AV Multiout, but my guess would be that it was going to be like the Famicom's expansion port and be the place to hook up other peripherals (like light guns)

Loving beta stuff man

>>1487276

>>1485079
Panzer Dragoon rip off?

>>1487276
It was literally the view from HAL's window

>>1489750

It DO what Xbox DON'T

>>1463036
Lumberjack Freeman was great, go duck yourself.

>>1469912
Kinda glad they changed it. I loved the ancient Egypt setting of Serious Sam.

>>1477910

>skimming through
>whoa this looks familar
>holy shit I feel like I played this before
>mfw realization

>>1477910

Kumatora looks pretty hot.

>>1470982
>>1464554
>>1464619

Halo went from Third Person Shooter, to RTS, TPS again then FPS.

The earliest version was planned for PS2, IICR.

>>1477918
People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games

>>1492653
Yep. That's me.

>>1492653

nah you're thinking of trolls on /vr/

>>1492667
That poster is making fun of the quote (I don't even remember who it came from anymore) from someone at Nintendo that claimed their players didn't want to play RPGs because those were for losers.

Been years since I heard it.

>>1468001
Dem boobies

>>1477949
I kinda wish they hadn't banked so much on the N64DD so much. It really fucked over a lot of games when they couldn't get the damn thing released on time and by the time they did, the N64 was about to be phased out by the Gamecube and the worthwhile games got ported.

>>1492673
Sounds like someone got bitter when Square fucked off to develop games for the Playstation.

>>1460695
Im so happy it didnt turn out like this.

>>1460695
>>1494284
though part of me wonders why no one modded WCII to have that?

>>1469771
Protoss are just a mismatch of generic alien races

Like how Terrans are every human race in sci-fi ever

and Zerg are every monster aliens in sci-fi

>>1470770
would've been better than "Robot that can FEEL emotions" that they ended up with.

especially since it inadvertently caused all the horrible shit to happen in the series

>>1496901

>>1485090
>the gaming intelligence agency
That nostalgia.

>>1497335
I have good news for you. They came back fairly recently.

http://www.thegia.com

Not quite the same, but still.

>>1459878
This
Poor fucking devs had to tone down a lot of games' textures and HUDs. Plus, it was the first leap to 3D so I'm sure they overshot everything a LOT

>>1485090
>delicious brown Garnet (I'm assuming)
>cowboy Amarant

Goddamn. Those character designs are interesting as hell, and not in the i-can't-really-tell-where-the-fuck-his-face-is way we ended up with in FFIX.

>>1485090
>>1485096
>>1497859
Isn't the black chick at the top right the same girl?
in this case it's written who she is, Leviathan

>>1470770
>robopolice
CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

>>1497871

Those are Bahamut and Leviathan style Dragoons. Their armor is based on the respective summon, thus the subtitle. That's not their names.

>>1497882
Ooooh; so FF9 was supposed to have a class based gameplay like FF3 and 5.

I'm sort of glad they dropped it, that had been done twice already and redone in the remake of 3, so i'd rather have a brand new system

>>1497884
Pretty much every FF game has jobs, it's just that the later ones really blur the line, like how FFX has Rikku as a Thief/Alchemist, Auron as a Samurai, and Tidus as a Fighter/Time Mage, but because of the leveling system, only their overdrives show any real difference.

>>1497924
I meant like FF3 and 5, where everyone can be anything.

If two characters are shown with the dragoon costume that means anyone could have been a dragoon; which means that the player would get to choose everybody's class like in 3 or 5

>>1497362
Oh shit.
Thanks for letting me know.

>>1497924
7 and 8 do not have jobs. Limit breaks are not the job system. Its also really pushing it to say that 6 does. I'd say no on that one, too.

X....kind of. It does take a very long time before the characters can do everything. For most of the game they are unique.

>>1485097
>>1485104
>>1485105
Why did the graphics look better in the Zelda 64 Beta than they did in the final release?

Anyone got Banjo kazooie beta pics?

>>1499516
At lot of things ended up getting cut or changed in order to fit onto the N64 cart.

>>1499516

Cutting corners

>>1485068
>we know much about this game as the French know about diplomacy
fucking lol'd

>>1461059

How different would things be today if Halo remained a Mac, or even a PC exclusive?

>>1500053
Not much at all, the industry was already headed in that direction anyways in regards to console FPS's and how they control.

>>1500053
I think he meant more how would the Xbox fare given that Halo was the Xbox's killer app. That's not a retro discussion though.

>>1485168
Listen to the original and then that track. They're note for note identical.

>>1460770
We're going to have GBA games on WiiU soon so that's nice! (:

>>1461341
That's "Maximum", and given it's called "GameCube 2", it would've been realistic given 7th gen consoles could do that, albeit at the cost of framerate. Unless this is actually the GameCube.

Real talk, had Nintendo made the "Nexus" instead of the Wii, chances are it would've done better than the PS3, but probably would be stiffed against the 360. The PS3 was mocked for years, and that mockery would've been enough to put this console ahead. Not to mention it would be powerful enough AND popular enough to hopefully warrant some multiplats.

>>1500053
mac exclusive? are you retarded?

>>1501814
Until Microsoft bought them, Bungie only developed for Mac.

>>1501826
>>1501814
Bungie was cancer

>>1501832
That's being a little extreme, but I do think they're very overrated.

>>1501814
Are you old enough to post here?

>>1501814
I suggest you look up bungie's catalog prior to Halo.

Bump.

>>1460705
I remember seeing this in a nintendo magazine when i was a kid, i thought this would be the future of gaming... i was wrong

>>1506701
This was going to be the real future of gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX2smM87r14

>No Star Fox 2
>Which pretty much ended up being a beta for Star Fox 64

>>1502526
>I suggest you look up bungie's catalog prior to Halo.

They developed for other platforms before Halo.

>>1470260
What the fuck is that Famicom console supposed to be? Was that model ever released?

>>1470264
>Play existing Nintendo games
Did this ever become a thing?

>>1482606
Where does this come from?
Is there more?
pls respond

>>1478005
Nsider was the fucking craziest site. I've never seen any other forums so heavily geared towards your rank. I never got to the point where I could edit posts, sadly.

>>1485090

I'm a HUGE fucking FFIX fan and seeing this is awesome. Does anyone know any sites/articles/interviews/fucking anything Beta related for this game? I have read the translated Ultimania gaia history

( Which I highly recommend for any die hard FFIX as it outlines Sakaguchi's vision for the history of FFIX, a lot of which is not explained in game to this extent

http://thelifestream.net/tag/final-fantasy-ix/ )

But when it comes to beta stuff I haven't seen much so any help in that regard would be amazing, thank you.

>>1508902
it's a personal project I started a week or two ago. I should probably get to finishing it

>>1472090
Unfortunately the best you'll get is an early tech demo of the engine.

>>1477849
The very beginning of the intro kind of reminds me of Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

>>1477961
>Nintendo hired the Yakuza to kill a guy who got ahold of a beta
Man, now that is some old-fashioned grade school playground rumor shit right there.

>>1501832
I think you have forgotten about (or are ignorant to) a game they came out with called marathon. It wasnt very popular but it added quite alot to the genre

>>1513198
Or the Myth series.

>>1462696
>marathon infiniti
>infiniti

WHAT THE FUCK?

>>1472909
>Doom II on U64

They probably didn't take this along, seeing how the PSone version already existed.

I'd pay to see the D64 beta tho.

>>1513151
meh, that particular story sounds like shit (srsly, "his/my brother" is almost always 100% a tell for an inexperienced internet liar), but Nintendo did have some shady history and connections during the Yamauchi eras of it's ownership:

Just consider
>nintendo started as a "grey market" company making cards specifically for local yakuza gambling dens
>up until the 80s or so, nintendo regularly had yakuza "inspectors" check out their card factory to insure that the cards were being made and packaged to the yakuza's "standards".
>in the 70s, nintendo made minor ventures into the sex industry with so-called "love hotels".
>it's highly interesting to note that gunpei yokoi was killed not long after he set up a competing company and it is still unknown who it was who struck him down on that stretch of highway...

Nintendo under Yamauchi were totally in bed with the yakuza...

>>1513269
Organized crime gets involved in a lot of industries.

>>1513269

I wouldn't be surprised that miyamoto was behind gunpei's firing and eventual assassination. Even though the virtual boy was a flop, being fired or let go after having so much seniority in a company in japan is unheard of. You're practically in a company for life. That, and gunpei was miyamoto's only competition as a creative director.

>>1514056
He wasn't fired, he was demoted, and then he left to work with a rival company. Gunpei was Miyamoto's mentor, he looked up to the guy.

Whoever rushed out the Virtual Boy killed Gunpei.

Here's a Dolphin/Gamecube tech demo from 1999. Hard to believe essentially the same hardware was being used for Wii games up until last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE85lOieDnw

>>1514146

That's interesting.

>>1514146
Yeah, there's a ROM of this dumped online actually

it's really cool to own a tech demo like that.

>>1477910
>It wasn't released because it wasn't technically good enough
Earthbound had such shitty graphics. What was their real excuse?

>>1514296
Too late into the lifespan of the N64, would've been released after the GCN was out because it was only 70% done when they cancelled it and it had already been delayed multiple times.

Though considering Mother 3 GBA was released after the DS Lite was out, seems like they just stopped caring at some point.

>>1514312
I like to think that earthbound 64 was just earthbound 3 in 3d. But why they stopped making earthbound?

>>1514315
>(it) would've been released after the GCN was out because it was only 70% done when they cancelled it and it had already been delayed multiple times.

If you're talking about the Mother series in general, just because Itoi doesn't want to make any more games.

>>1514312
Just because a new console gets released doesn't mean they need to halt development on games for the previous gen system.

>>1514331
It was cancelled in 2001. Mother 64 probably wouldn't have been done until ~2003.

>>1479572
I remember teading an interview a while back where he talked about it.

Supposedly the bit at the end where you can walk around and talk to the characters was new. The original ending just had the catclysmic destruction, then fade to white, leaving the player to ponder what happened.

>>1477910
First column
Six down
Earliest video game fap I can remember.

>>1513269
[Citation Needed]

ITT: Betas