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1443301 No.1443301 [Reply] [Original]

What games are better on the SNES? What games are better on the Genesis?

Not just specific games like Aladdin, but maybe platform-exclusive series (at the time) like Final Fight/Streets of Rage. Make the case.

>> No.1443312

>>1443301
aladdin sucks on genesis

>> No.1443314
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>>1443312

>> No.1443325

>>1443301
maui mallard was a lot better on genesis

>> No.1443362
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>>1443312
Wrong.

>> No.1443367

Contra and Castlevania were better on the SNES.

>> No.1443369

Fire Emblem series > Shining Force series

>> No.1443370

Don't forget to throw in some exclusive games, Genesis have some absolute ( 100% ) gems like Red Zone and Adventures of Batman and Robin.

>> No.1443373
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1443373

I found the Magical Quest series to be more fun than the Illusion series.

>> No.1443430

Robocop VS Terminator is best on Genesis.
I prefer The Lost Vikings on SNES because of the music and controller.

>> No.1443439

Super Valis IV was terrible compared to the Genesis Valis games.
...Which were okay compared to the PC-engine Valis games.

>> No.1443456

>jesper kyd is on genesis
>one of the greatest chiptune composers

see, adventures of batman robin, sub-terrania, to name a few.

>> No.1443553

Animaniacs for the Genesis was one of my favourites as a kid, but I've read bad things about the Snes version.

>> No.1443597

So what's the deal with Alladdin on the SNES and Genesis?

What are the differences between them. Is one version definitively better or are they just different games entirely?

Also, I'll just say this.

>Sparkster (SNES) is better than Sparkster (Genesis), but Rocket Knight Adventures on Genesis is better than both
>Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts wasn't great on the SNES, but the SNES had Demon's Crest which is fucking amazing and I say it counts

>> No.1443598

Are "console wars" threads really necessary?

>> No.1443601

>>1443597
>Is one version definitively better or are they just different games entirely?
Different games entirely. Arguing about which is best is a popular /vr/ thread.

>> No.1443627

>>1443456
Based Kyd, I also remember that later on he used one of his tracks as an inspiration for awesome chorus in Hitman: Blood Money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVJkX9maq8&list=PLA9D5DD7C356A0556

>> No.1443759

>>1443325
Maui Mallard was just too different.

Snes had a better soundtrack (and the Genesis was already good) and different, creepier areas with better effects and SFX.

Genesis was still a good game though.

>> No.1443762 [DELETED] 

>>1443598
Apparently, yes.

>>1443685

>> No.1443763

>>1443553
The Snes version was a completely different game. Still a very good game, but VERY different than the Genesis version.

Comparing both versions is the same as comparing Snes and Genesis Alladin.

>> No.1443937

>Super Nintendo
>3.58MHz

>Sega Genesis
>7.6MHz

The Genesis was faster. Blast Processing is not a myth. That's why fewer Genesis games have slowdown.

I think running fast is better than looking or sounding prettier, so I prefer the Genesis.

...That being said, the SNES has a good library. Also, Jurassic Park on the SNES is great while the Genesis version sucks. I'll admit it.

...But Genesis has the better Contra and Castlevania games.

>> No.1443941

>>1443937
>Blast Processing is not a myth.

Yeah it is. Having a faster processor than the SNES is not "blast processing". If the Genesis has it, the Neo Geo had it. And so does the laptop I'm on right now.

>> No.1443946

>>1443941

>having a faster process than the SNES is not blast processing

Why not?

I'm willing to admit that the Neo Geo and your laptop have blast processing. Just a gimmicky term for 'having a faster processor' than Sega's primary competitor at the time.

The Neo Geo, technically speaking, was the absolute best console at the time. It was just fucking expensive and its entire library were arcade games, which had limited genre appeal.

>> No.1443978

>>1443946
>its entire library were arcade games
Because it was basically arcade machine for your apartment.

>> No.1443987

1st party SNES is stuff is better (Sega's 1st party stuff IS great, but not as good as Nintendo's).

Genesis 3rd party titles are better (better shooters, better action games)

>> No.1444537

>>1443987
Regarding third party games, Snes had gems like Gambare Goemon, MegaMan, Macross, Lufia, Final Fantasy, Super Star Soccer, Plok, Castlevania, the Kunio-Kun saga, Earthbound, etc.

Name any iconic third party RPG saga on the Genesis: you can't, there's none.
Genesis' top view shooters were nice, though. (Personally I don't see the interest on that genere but i will never deny that several of genesis' shooters wouldn't runt at all on a Snes.)

>> No.1444538

>>1443937
>I think running fast is better than looking or sounding prettier, so I prefer the Genesis.

This is the dumbest argument ever.

So you would like a game that looks and sounds like ass just because it moves faster?
That describes perfectly a Sonic game, by the way.

>> No.1444558

>>1443937
This became a moot point later in the systems life with games Like Super Street Fighter 2 and Killer Instinct, which both had turbo settings that ramped the flying fuck out of the game speed.

>> No.1444565

>>1443946
>and its entire library were arcade games

I never saw Samurai Shodown RPG in an arcade.

>> No.1444573
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>>1444537

I really don't know why people always tries to shit on Genesis with the SNES rpgs. There are people who don't give a fuck about this kind of game, and I bet there are someone who prefers the "shitty 2 dollar sport games" than any Earthbound or FF5. Probably there is one between the 40 million people who bought a Genesis. I can only name 2 rpgs I find superb on SNES, I'll not say Zelda LttP because someone will say it isn't an rpg.

>> No.1444575

>>1444573
>I really don't know why people always tries to shit on Genesis with the SNES rpgs.

I really don't know why people always tries to shit on the SNES with the Genesis shooters.

>> No.1444578

>>1444537
May be a Sega CD game, but Lunar 1 and 2 are absolutely fantastic games that no JRPG fan should miss out on.

>> No.1444579
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>>1444538

>a Sonic game
>look and sounds like ass

Except by Spinball or 3D Blast, it's better you to be trolling.

>> No.1444581

>>1443430
b-but lost vikings in genesis has like 5 extra levels, cutscenes, and 3 player support with a multitap!

>> No.1444585

> Snes has no shooters!

What is Axelay, Parodius, Biometal, Darius Twin, Macross, Firepower 2000, STAR FOX, Phalanx, Super EDF, R-Type (the second one, the first was a disaster) Thunder Spirits, U.N SQUADRON, etc, etc.

>> No.1444587

>>1444573
>I can only name 2 rpgs I find superb on SNES
Well that's your fault, isn't it.

>> No.1444591

>>1444579
> Sonic game doesn't look and sounds like ass EXCEPT for the examples I'm giving so you couldn't use them against me!

My brother used to tell me about people using this retarded strategy back them, I think they called it "Occupatio"

>> No.1444603

>>1444591

Yeah, buddy. Except by the crappy ones. Would you include Super Mario USA in a SMB discussion?

>> No.1444601

>>1444578
I agree about the superb quality (There's a reason they have been ported a gogol of times) but alas... that's a Sega CD game, not a Sega Genesis.

Soleil was an awesome top view action RPG for the Genesis that would amaze you, but you will feel ashamed once you realize it's a shameless Zelda ripoff.

>> No.1444607

I was a Mega Drive kid. In fact, it is the only console I ever owned. But I'm gonna say: the SNES was a superior option. The Mega Drive/Genesis has great games, but in general the SNES has more good games, and that matters a lot when we were kids and, besides magazines, rarely got to make well-informed choices. Picking a game at random because the cover and back burb looks cool, or getting a game for christmas or your birthday, you were far less likely to be disappointed if it was SNES title.

>> No.1444615

>>1444603
Yes, because it was still a fun Mario game.

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>>1444607

>> No.1444639

>>1444585
>Phalanx
>Darius Twin
>Thunder Spirits
>Super EDF

I like some snes shooters, but really?

>> No.1444667

>>1444601
>that's a Sega CD game, not a Sega Genesis.

Still, though, it needs a Genesis to be played. It's like saying PC Engine CD games like Dracula X aren't PC Engine games, and nobody has a problem referring to Dracula X as a PC Engine game.

>> No.1444664

>>1444639
The Genesis also had it's share of crappy shooters.

>> No.1444665

>>1444615
Not him, but would you include Mario's Time Machine too and Hotel Mario? nigga please.

Also, Sonic 3D while not a great game, looks and sounds pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvx-PJYzuH8&

>> No.1444670

>>1444664
No doubt about that, but i thought you were putting just good ones.

>> No.1444689

>>1444587
FF2, 3, Chrono Trigger, Secret Of Mana, Brandish, Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, Breath Of Fire

There's plenty I just named off-hand.

>> No.1444716

>>1444689
And Lufia!

Plus the Super Robot Wars saga!

>> No.1444717

>>1444639
Also, i forgot Biometal, that game is good only if you have the japanese version, which is very expensive.

>> No.1444720

>>1444637
>Sonic is Sega's only IP
Are they making fun of this viewpoint or do they actually believe this?

>> No.1444728

>>1444537
>Name any iconic third party RPG saga on the Genesis: you can't, there's none.
I love how badly you want Shining Force and Phantasy Star out of the conversation. Nintendo had... Mario RPG? Which they outsourced to Square, but that's beside the point: Why does it matter if it was first or third party?

>> No.1444736

>>1444728
Ninty had earthbound, which was developed by HAL, but that's about it in the west i think.

>> No.1444789

>>1443937
>Also, Jurassic Park on the SNES is great while the Genesis version sucks
>But Genesis has the better Contra and Castlevania games.

What the hell is this?
0/10

>> No.1444795

>>1444717
Don't like the US version? What's the matter? Too Jock Jams for you?

It definitely is for me.

>> No.1444797

>>1443301
Mortal Kombat was better on the Genesis. MKII was better on the SNES. MKIII sucks.

>> No.1444804

>>1444797
>Mortal Kombat was better on the Genesis.
It is if you like watching animated gifs.

MKII Snes closed every hater's mouth back then.

MKIII... was MKIII.

>> No.1444807

I'd like to see SNES find a more rad shmup than Thunderforce 4.

>> No.1444815

>>1444807
>I'd like to see Genesis find a more gnawrly RPG saga than Super Robot Wars.

>> No.1444823
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> You will never play a Gundam game on the Sega Genesis.

>> No.1444825
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> You will never play a real Mazinger game on the Genesis

>> No.1444828
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1444828

> You will never play as Devilman and Sirenus against Gundam suits on the Genesis

>> No.1444831

>>1444804
The controls were better. Snes had better graphics, but the game sucked, it was slow and clumsy.

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> You will never play a Ranma 1/2 game on the Genesis.

>> No.1444840

>>1443312

To people unfamiliar with retro games, this is how you spot a troll. 4th gen Aladdin played entirely different on the SNES and Genesis.

To contribute to this thread, The Adventures of Batman and Robin Genesis was the definitive version. If you had a gen 1 Genesis, the sound and arrangement were better than the SNES. Otherwise it was shit.

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>>1444807
Now what, dude?

>> No.1444846

>>1444831
>Snes had better graphics, but the game sucked, it was slow and clumsy

Let's be honest: I'm a Snesfag and I will never deny that the first MK port was a fucking DISASTER.
The second one was fucking amazing though.

>> No.1444852

>>1444823
>>1444825
>>1444828
>all that mech autism
You are comparing a console that sold 17 millions in japan with the MD which was pretty much a failure there. Of course it will have a much bigger library.

Still, i prefer Ranger X, Assault Suit and Front Mission Gun Hazard than any of those.

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> You will never et to play as the Cyborg 009 team on the Genesis.

Yes, the Sega CD had a Cyborg 009 game as well. But you only could play as 009, the game didn't had alt routes like the snes one and eveything was stiff and clunky as tits because of LOADING TIMES.

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>>1444852
> You will never get to play AstroBoy on the MegaDrive

>> No.1444870
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You will never get to play Tenchi Muyo on the Genesis

>> No.1444872
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> You will never get to take the Sailor Senshi girls on a RPG adventure on the Megadrive.

>> No.1444876
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> You will never get to play as Zenki on the Genesis

>> No.1444890

>>1444860
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR HAIR

>> No.1444897

>>1444841
That's Scrambled Valkyrie, right? U.N. Squadron is pretty good too.

>> No.1444906
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You will never play as Kitaro on the sega genesis either...

>> No.1444912
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>>1444828
>look up game
>Gundam, Mazinger, Devilman, Kamen Rider, and Ultraman all in the same game
My body wasn't ready

>> No.1444916

>>1444897
Yep, a game that has aged up VERY well.

>> No.1444917

No SNES shump will be as good as Thunder Force 4

like goddamn that game is so impressive for its time

>> No.1444919

>>1444912
Don't forget Great Mazinger and Getter Robo.

>> No.1444926

>>1443597
Different developers; so different games. Capcom did the SNES version using the magical quest engine.

>> No.1444940

They're all better on the SNES.

>> No.1444945

They're all better on the Genesis

>> No.1444951

They're all better on the PC.

>> No.1444979

>>1444945
Proof, please?
The other guy(s) has been posting plenty of pics to support his argument.

>>1444951
Emulation is the ultimate answer, yes.

>> No.1444981

They're all better on The All in One Xbox One.

>> No.1445012

>>1444981
The first Xbox was a great emulation machine if you think about it.

>> No.1445015

>>1444979
>The other guy(s) has been posting plenty of pics to support his argument.

Posting random pictures of games doesn't prove they run better.

>> No.1445018

>>1445012
Yeah, but the PSP is GOAT emulation machine, you know it to be true.

>> No.1445026
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> You will never conquer the know world for Rome on the SNES

This game was definitely the console seller for me back then, you can keep your shitty cloned platformers.

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>>1445026
> Somebody said "Centurions?"

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>>1445036
>implying the genesis A&O aren't miles better

This is embarassing.

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>>1445049
The first Genesis game was a WTF fest on crack and LSD.

The second game was actually nice, but the second Snes game wins.

>> No.1445058

>>1445054
I disagree.

>> No.1445091

>>1445058
Because you are a Segasshole.

>> No.1445145

>wanting weeaboo cash grabs
shiggydiggy

>> No.1445198

I miss the days when multiplat games weren't exactly the same regardless of platform.

>> No.1445216

There were 3 SHMUPS that were released on both the SNES and Genesis: Raiden Trad, Thunder Spirits/Thunder Force III, and Firepower 2000 (aka Super SWIV)/Mega SWIV.

1. Raiden Trad
Winner=SNES
The ONLY disadvantage that the SNES version has compared to the GEN version is the fact that it's missing certain enemies and animations. Otherwise, the SNES version is FAR better than the GEN version, which lacks the 2-player mode but does feature terrible graphics (the color count is extremely low, even by GEN standards), weak sound effects, and slower, less exciting gameplay. The GEN version was ported by Micronet, which almost single-handedly explains why it's so shitty, while the SNES version was ported by Micronics, which by then had gotten much better at porting arcade games (compared to their NES port of Ghosts 'n Goblins)

2. Firepower 2000 aka Super SWIV (SNES) vs Mega SWIV (Gen)
Winner=SNES
The GEN version was released only in Europe 2 years after the SNES version, and is inferior in every way to the SNES version. It runs slower, the colors are crappy, the special effects aren't as good, and the sound effects are the absolute worst--the developers tried to sample all the sound effects from the SNES version, and the failed miserably. Also, the GEN version re-arranges some stages, but that doesn't really make much of a difference.

3. Thunder Force III (GEN) vs Thunder Spirits (SNES)
Winner=GEN
Thunder Spirits is actually a port of Thunder Force AC, which was an Arcade adaptation of Thunder Force III. The graphics are better in TS, but that's it. The music isn't as good, the sound effects are lame, the difficult is non-existent (even on "Maniac") and worst of all, the game slows down almost every time whenever you start firing, which may explain why rapid fire is disabled by default. Many Genesis fanboys point to Thunder Spirits as the reason why their console is better than the SNES.

>> No.1445237

>>1445216
You're being awfully generous to Raiden Trad SNES ver. You left out the fact that the SNES version is in the wrong resolution (its stretched too wide) and that its more sluggish. The SNES one was the first Raiden game I ever played, and its hardly bad (it has instant respawns, like the arcade, instead of checkpoint frustration), but its not really better than the Genesis one.

>> No.1445426

>>1443369

Boy, I sure love going from battle to battle, with no exploration or item acquiring! I sure find bishonens and waifus more amusing characters than an armadillo wearing tank armor or a hamster with a Star Wars helmet.

>> No.1445448

>>1445018
Not enough buttons, and crappy dpad.

>> No.1445453

TMNT Tournament Fighters was excellent on SNES. Genesis version...not even close.

>> No.1445513

>>1444591
You're implying that Sonic games sound bad and look bad, an objectively false statement.

>> No.1445883

>>1445426
> Fire Emblem
> No exploration or item acquiring

Confirmed for never having played a FE game.

>> No.1446112

>>1445091
>nintendo fanboy recurring to insults and strawmen

I can't say I didn't see it coming.

>> No.1446190

>>1445883

you can explore all you want in most games because there's no urgency and the AI is dumb as fuck and extremely predictable

>> No.1446198

>>1443978
>Because it was basically arcade machine for your mansion.
Fixed.

>> No.1446252

>>1446112
> Sega fanboy recurring to "I'm offended, so his point is invalid!" tactics.

I can't say I didn't saw it coming, espcially from a fanboy who's beloved company advertisements used vulgar ads and openly insulted Nintendo for attention.

>> No.1446260

>>1446198
Oh c'mon, 650$ is middle class price.

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>>1446260
600 dollas aint shit to chad warden, chad warden wipes his ASS with 600 dollas, shit i'll give you 600 dollas just to shut the hell up nigga

>> No.1446278

>>1446264
You're Exaggerating, nigga.

>> No.1446358

>>1445058
You gotta be fucking kidding me.

>> No.1446447

>>1445216
thunder spirirs doesnt have better graphics, it also runs at a lower res. It actually looks like fucking shit compared to TF3 and I own both. >>1443373
Not a lot of people would agree with you.
>>1444906
>>1444876
>>1444823
>>1444825
>>1444828
Take the weeaboo autism elsewhere none of those games are classics. You only care about the liscensed properties.

You will never play 4 player yu yu hukasho or general chaos, or gauntlet. You will never have friends to play them with either snesfag

>> No.1446456

>>1446447
not him but kitaro on the sufami was actually a great game (unlike the famicom game)

>> No.1446462

>>1446456
ill check it out, I have nothing against those games either it just seemed like he was shoveling liscences on us like we gave a shit.

>> No.1446469

>>1446447
>none of those games are classics

I disagree. Gundam Wing Endless Duel has been played by a great number of people on both sides of the pond. Plus he posted a bunch of just plain great games in general, Japanese or not.

>> No.1446478

>>1446469
No one is missing out on not playing licensed jrpgs. Those are mediocre at best.

>> No.1446479

>>1446469
by gundam fans, fighting game fans dont give a shit about it, again weeaboo autism.

Why dont you get that autistic about the yu yu hukasho game?

>> No.1446524

>>1443301
Aladdin is better on SNES.
Streetfighters are better on SNES.
Contra Hard Corps is better than Contra 3
Bloodlines is better than Castlevania 4
Streets of Rage Series is better than Final Fight Series
Zelda/Quintet games are better than Soleil/Beyond Oasis
Gunstar Heroes is better than Mega Man X
Final Fantasy 6 is better than Phantasy Star 4

>> No.1446576

>>1446524
>street fighters better on SNES
Nice try kiddo, genesis runs faster smoother and at a higher resolution.

>> No.1446578

>>1446252
>thinks spouting a random insult is equal to making a point
>bad grammar

You really are just retarded as shit.

>> No.1446613

>>1446479
>fighting game fans dont give a shit about it

i do

>> No.1446619

also

>>1446447

true, but thunder force 3 looks like a jumbled mess either way, thunder force 4 improved a lot graphically so everything wasn't a cluttered, color clashing mess

>> No.1446625

All shmups and most action games that are multiplat were better on Genesis. Street Fighter was always better since it had a six button properly setup peripheral. MK1. Rocket Knight. etc.

SNES had better everything else that didn't require a lot of sprites and movement.

This is gonna be a console war thread regardless.

>> No.1446628

>>1446625

moot point now, there's no reason not to play street fighter 2 on mame or saturn

also sparkster > rocket knight adventures 2, nothing to do with snes vs mega drive, but konami's A-team worked on the snes version of the game, B-team was for the mega drive

>> No.1446639

>>1446625

That discounts like 75% of games on both systems if you can play them on another console better. So that isn't the discussion.

>> No.1446642

>>1446619

DID SOMEBODY SAY THUNDER FORCE 4?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM

>> No.1446640

>>1446628
rocket knight adventures is amazing
sparkster is kind of a polished turd on both systems

>> No.1446646

>>1446639

there were very few multiplatform games before saturn / ps1, even then there weren't a lot, ps2 gen was the first multiplatform gen

>> No.1446648

>>1446646

I am saying that 75% of both system's games have arcade versions that are superior or at least have been re-released in a superior form on another console so it completely defeats the discussion.

>> No.1446653

>>1446648

75% of their libraries were not arcade games, snes particularly had way more exclusive games

>> No.1446657

both systems have really awesome games and modern day console warriors are the video game version of that japanese dude who was fighting world war 2 two decades after it ended

>> No.1446663

>>1446657

snes is just better, it's about as competitive as n64 was with ps1 when it comes to (quality) game library

sega didn't even start making good games until 1993

>> No.1446667

>>1446653

I am pulling a number out of my ass. But you are still missing the point when I say that both systems have tons of games with reissues/arcade versions that are better and discussing them in a "which system had the better version genesis or SNES" and you come in saying fucking MAME it defeats the discussion.

For example in Shmup:
Gradius III was unplayable slowdown garbage on the SNES and massively easy. The arcade version and the PS2 port of the arcade version are infinitely superior.
Thunder Force IV on Genesis is good but it has slow down problems, albeit not nearly as bad as Gradius III. It was reissued on the Saturn without slowdown.

You could find these examples all over the place on both consoles. So just fucking stop.

>> No.1446673

>>1446653

>way more exclusive games
[citation needed]

>> No.1446674

>>1446667

that's still few examples

the difference is that those games were developed originally for the snes and genesis, and were not conversions of arcade games

street fighter 2 is not a "snes" or "genesis" game regardless of how you try to rationalize it, was a butchered port with shortcomings on both consoles

>> No.1446672

>>1446657
At least that guy actually had a reason to be a fighter for his country.

These people are just sad.

>2013
>Arguing about SNES vs. Genesis like you're in the first grade and can't afford both

>> No.1446676

>>1446673

this can be verified with gamefaqs or wikipedia lists

75% number on the other hand was total nonsense

>> No.1446682

>>1446674

Gradius III was an arcade port. Thunder force IV was not.

Honestly look at both consoles libraries and see how many arcade ports there are and then look at the ones that don't have them and see if they have a reissue on a superior console (like Wii VC which reduces lag in most games they release).

I need to stop. I am seriously trying to convince somebody to follow the OP's topic and not bring up other console's validity in the discussion where they have no place.

>> No.1446695

>>1446682

thunder spirits on the SNES has the strange distinction of being the only thunder force arcade version port ever and it was garbage haha

>> No.1446737

>>1446695
What about saturn?

>> No.1446742

>>1446737

the saturn version was near arcade perfect port of thunder force iii ac

>> No.1446752

>>1446462
> You will never play a Star Wars game on the Genesis.

>> No.1446756

>>1446673
> You will never play Megaman and Megaman X on the Genesis (Yes, Genesis had a Megaman but it was only playable via Sega Channel and it was a mash of 3 Nes games anyway)

>> No.1446765

>>1446752
Right, because it requires the 32X.

>> No.1446771

>>1446765
> Super Game Boy games are Snes games too because you need a Snes!

I like your logic, Segaboy.

>> No.1446779

>>1446771
Super Game Boy games work with regular Game Boy hardware using only the Z80, even when they've got the 65C816 available. 32X games utilize the 68000, Z80, and SH-2 CPUs to run.

>> No.1446783

>>1446765

never played a 32x game that wasn't garbage

knuckles game played like a romhack and that tempo game caused seizures

>> No.1446792

>>1446779
Super Game Boy Games still need the Snes to display the colors and borders.

I still win.

>> No.1446796

>>1446783
Serve you right for playing any Mushroom that isn't from a Nintendo console.

>> No.1446803

>>1446792
>I still win.
This is the Internet, anon. No one wins.

I don't think there's a single 32x game that also works with just the Genesis. I'm fairly sure it's possible - even without the header at the beginning of the cartridge, you can boot the 32x by writing the security program into its framebuffer and then putting code in SH-2 RAM for it to execute (it's how 32x CD games init). You can additionally check if you see the "MARS" data in one of the system registers from the 68000, IIRC. So, while it is technically possible to make a dual 32x/Genesis game, it was never done commercially and I haven't seen any homebrew examples.

>> No.1446819

>>1446752
>>1446756

Who the fuck wanted to play a Star Wars game? Mega Man was garbage as well. SNESfags ladies and gents.

>> No.1446829

>>1446819
Enjoying your million EA games?

>> No.1446838

>>1446829

I will.

>SNES kids will never play Mutant League games.

>> No.1446839

>>1446819
I've seen a lot of pathetic posts in my time, but this really ranks up there.

>> No.1446841

>>1446819
This is why these threads are shit

Its impossible to have any serious and well founded debates on this subject cause of all the retarded fanboyish.

Its disgusting

>> No.1446843

>>1446841
>>1446839

>SNES fan says bullshit and nobody cares
>Genesis fan says bullshit and everyone gets their panties in a knot

>> No.1446847

>>1446843
Are you fucking kidding me? How long have you been on this board?

Both sides are at each other heads in this stupid debate. Don't play victim here

>> No.1446856

>>1446847

No, really look at what he replied to. Those two posts that were retarded had no ill retort. And then look at all the other SNES troll posts below. Get fucking real if you're going to single out a counter troll post.

>> No.1446869

>>1446856
>No, really look at what he replied to.

Does it matter what he replied to? No. He used it as an example of a shitty post. And it was a shitty post.

>> No.1446873

>>1446856
Butthurt Sega fanboyo detected

> WAAH BUT THE OTHER GUY'S POSTS ARE BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!

Typical behaviour of a fag who doesn't have any conterarguments to say.

>> No.1446878

>>1446843
>>1446856
I saw it on the front page and found it obnoxious. Want me to go through the entire thread and whine at everyone?

>> No.1446887

>>1446873

>you will never play -insert genesis game- on SNES

Haha I'm a funny troll from /v/ aren't I. Got you mad now right?

>> No.1446895

>>1446887
Isn't trolling unless you could put a game that was exclusive for the Genesis and was good enough to make the other guy feel mad.

What you did was just being an imbecile and proving his point about not having any arguments to bring out.

FAIL.

>> No.1446897

>>1446895
>you will never play Alien Soldier on SNES
>you will never play Gunstar Heroes on SNES
>you will never play Sonic 3 on SNES
>you will never play Zero Wing on SNES
>you will never play Thunder Force 4 on SNES
>you will never play Gauntlet 4 on SNES
>you will never play CV Bloodlines on SNES
>you will never play Phantasy Star on SNES
HUURRRRRRRR

>> No.1446903

>>1446895
Well, Sega had Sonic. And Sonic 2. Sonic 3, Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic 3 + Sonic and Knuckes, Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Pinball...

You can't play that on a Snes.

>> No.1446904

>>1446895

You're not going to be able to make some moronic troll that just wants to incite rage mad by posting any game regardless of quality.

I could say Landstalker, Beyond Oasis, Gunstar Heroes, Sonic, Rocket Knight, Rolling Thunder, MUSHA, Aleste, Mutant League, Mega Man Wily Wars and however many other games that he "can't play on SNES" and that won't mean shit.

>> No.1446906

/vr/ without any console warriors was such a nice place.

>> No.1446908

>>1446897
Alien soldier was good, same as Gunstar Heroes.

The rest of the list is meh.

And Super Castlevania 4 > Bloddlines.

>> No.1446909

>>1446906
They're all contained in this thread, though.

No one over the age of 12 is participating in this argument.

>> No.1446913

>>1446908

But you will never play them on SNES! Just like Genesis can't play Super Star Wars even though that is a mediocre game. Looks like I'm in good shape since I'm old enough to have both systems and the intelligence to be able to emulate any games I don't have and am curious about.

>> No.1446915

>>1446904
>Landstalker
Crap

> Beyond Oasis, Gunstar Heroes
Awesome.

>> No.1447039

>>1446915

landstalker is way better than beyond oasis

>> No.1447061

I don't really think anyone, even sega fanboys, could truly believe the genesis is even in the same league as snes. Snes is pro and genesis is semi pro

>> No.1447063

>>1447061
Not really. Once you get past the 1st and 2nd party Nintendo/Rare titles, SNES doesn't have all that much going for it.

>> No.1447068

>>1447063
Only it really does. Game for game it's no contest. People who can't afford a true collectible like snes carts will settle, and defend poor fag mega drive carts. (Most have little to no collectible value)

>> No.1447067

>>1447063
I think you're confusing the SNES with the N64.

>> No.1447082

>>1446663
>sega didn't even start making good games until 1993
What is Streets of Rage 2, Bio-Hazard Battle, Quackshot, World of Illusion, Revege of the Shinobi, OutRun.

>> No.1447454

>>1447063
Even including those titles it doesn't have much going for it. It's only slightly better than the N64. The NES was clearly a fluke.

>> No.1447460
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1447460

SNES had Natsume as a developer in their prime.

Ninja Warriors, Wild Guns, Lufia II, Ghost Sweeper Mikami, Mighty Morphing Power Rangers, Pocky and Rocky.

>> No.1447468

>>1447063

Except Chrono Trigger, Mega Man X, Demon's Crest, Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana, ActRaiser, Breath of Fire, Turtles in Time, Ogre Battle, Final Fight, Lufia, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Knights of the Round, X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse, Batman Returns, Super Adventure Island II

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1447469

>>1447068

>> No.1447491

>>1447468

and Pocky and Rocky, Contra 3, the super bomberman games....

god i miss nintendo having strong 3rd party support

>> No.1447582

>>1447460
>Wild Guns
HHNNNNNNNGG!!!

>> No.1447693

The SNES didn't HAVE to be slow. I mean, slowdown was more common and it was more difficult to optimize a fast-pased action game for the SNES because of the weaker processor.

Fucking Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts.

What's the fastest SNES game with the least slowdown?

>> No.1447813 [DELETED] 

>>1447693
R-Type 3 maybe?

If you are including enhancement chips, maybe the third parodius game.

>> No.1447823

>>1447082
SoR2 is great but you're an idiot if you think those Disney games are actually good. charming and well presented, but really short and unrewarding

>> No.1447837

Langrisser II might be better on the SNES. It has more content, at least. But music is like half of the experience in that game for me, and the SNES version is just awful in comparison.

>> No.1447869

>>1447823
>shitting at Quackshot and Illusion games
shiggy diggy motherfucker, not because they are short means they are bad.

>> No.1447887

>>1447869
They're also pathetically bland level design wise and devoid of any real substance beyond being licensed paint-by-the-numbers hop n bop platformer, which were dime a dozen in those days.

>> No.1447923

>>1447887
Nice buzzwords.

>> No.1447980

>>1447923
Quackshot suffered any launch title games problem of all: blandness and lack of originality. (Compare it World of Illusion: Starring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and that game will break it's ass anytime.)

That aside, Quackshot was still a fucking great and fun game that deserves a remake.

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1448001

>Contra Hard Corps is better than Contra 3

Both games are equally great in their own way. Contra 3 improves the Contra formula and have a great, cinematic feeling but in arcade fashion while Contra Hard Corps has this awesome, wacky Treasure feeling that will remind you Gunstar Heroes.

>> No.1448004

>>1446260
>>1446264
The $650 was for the Gold system which also included 2 arcade sticks, a memory card and 1-2 games. So it isn't fair to say it costs $650.

The Silver pack was $400 on release and still included an arcade stick, which is a fair price considering it cost less than the arcade hardware.

Now, you can get a standalone console for $150, the 150-in-1 cart for $70 and the Fusion converter for 64eur (when it comes out). In case anyone wants to play it on the original hardware.

>> No.1448015

>>1448004
For a controller, you can buy a Neo Geo -> Playstation adapter for $20 and use any arcade stick with a PS2 port.

>> No.1448017

>>1448001
Enjoy your censored PROBOTECTORS.

Germany, wtf.

>> No.1448039

>>1447837
The graphics are better on the Mega-Drive, too. SNES has ugly portraits and awkward looking sprites.

>> No.1448150

>>1448001
Contra 3 has those god awful top down levels, making it inferior.

>> No.1448189

>>1447837
>Der Langrisser music
>Awful
I can understand preferring Langrisser 2 music, but that's just wrong. Hell, they're not even that different.

>> No.1448197

>>1448189
Most of it is pretty good. The ONLY track that gets butchered by the SNES and sounds truly awful is neo-holy war, the track that plays when you beat a level. Its a great track, so its a loss, but otherwise the SNES sounds pretty darn good.

>> No.1448218

>>1448197
I wouldn't call that butchered, it's just not as good. But whatever, I have a similar hatred for the GBA Shinning Force. Fuck that game.

>> No.1448828
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1448828

I need an educated opinion on Streets of Rage vs. Final Fight. Which one is better?

>> No.1448832

>>1448828
Who cares? Golden Axe is better than Streets of Rage and King of Dragons is better than Final Fight.

>> No.1448840

>>1448828

Streets of Rage. Final Fight might edge it out if the arcade version of the first qualifies.

>>1448832

Golden Axe is a pretty garbage beat em up.

>> No.1448847

>>1448840

What makes the Streets of Rage series better, exactly?

>> No.1448848

>>1448840
I used to think so, but I find dancing with the enemies to open up an attack pattern strangely addictive.

>> No.1448858

>>1448847

Vs. the SNES Final Fights. SoR is just a more complete and properly executed beat em up. Invincibility frames are where they should be, music was expressly made for the system, it runs great with no slowdown, has terrific difficulty and tricks. All three Final Fight SNES games have issues, some more than others. Final Fight Arcade or even Final Fight CD are better one off games than even SoR2 though.

>> No.1448875

>>1448858

I'm gonna staunchly disagree here. I think Final Fight, even only counting the SNES versions, is better.

Final Fight 1 on the SNES is a very challenging single player game, and Final Fight 2 is also challenging. Both games have fantastic scores.

I love SoR, but even the most challenging game in that series is still a bit too easy.

I'd call it like this.

Final Fight > Final Fight 2 > Streets of Rage 2 > Streets of Rage 3 > Streets of Rage > Final Fight 3

>> No.1448884

>>1448875

Final Fight SNES #1? Are you bananas? It was a butchered port. At least say FFIII which is the best in the series outside of the FFArcade.

>> No.1448887

>>1448884

A butchered port that still managed to be challenging and awesome. The only big flaw was the lack of multiplayer.

I hated Final Fight 3. It was super easy and not designed at all around its gameplay mechanics.

You could backdash. So the fuck what? There was nothing to backdash against. It was like they added all these new gameplay options but didn't bother to design the enemies around it. It was awful.

Final Fight 2 is way better than Final Fight 3. It was harder and the challenges were more properly designed around the controls.

>> No.1448902

>>1448887

The first game's port had insane amounts of bugs, slowdown, cut content, censoring, poor sound (and I mean poor), and decreased graphic fidelity. You move way slower than intended and don't have all of your combo attacks. Invincibility frames are completely ruined because of a hack port job. I could go on sadly. How is that better than any game in either series? I'm gonna have to say it was probably your first beat em up and has the most sentimental value?

>> No.1448947
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1448947

I will never understand people who say Hard Corps is better than Contra 3

I always saw Hard Corps as a 90's thing, yeah I'm a rad wolf pew pew pew woooow now I'm a robot yeeee
I mean it was good

But when i saw this motherfucker, holy shit
Nothing could beat it

>> No.1448984

>>1448875
>Both games have fantastic scores

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_mQOgCLgBU
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySwEktYEIs0


For me SoR2 beat easily all the snes Final Fight snes games, FF1 and 2 have few movements, meh music, slowdowns, 3 characters limit. FF3 is the only one that is good, because it was a proper answer to SoR2, but still not as good.

Arcade FF is the only great one IMO.

>> No.1448991

>>1448984
>3 characters limit
I meant 3 enemies on screen limit.

>> No.1449004

>>1448828
SOR2 has Street Fighter 2 level of technical gameplay that requires knowing the precise hitboxes of your moves, as well as tight timing to do the faster combos (you can't just mash punch... if you time it, you can do combos faster).

Also on Mania mode it has the best non-cheating AI I've seen in any game up until Halo CE.

There are only a few beat'em ups that can equal SOR2 in fun (Armored Warriors, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Punisher, Guardian Heroes, D&D), but none of them come remotely close to its technical gameplay and array of moves. Punisher comes close but it's still not that technical as far as normal attacks go (most of the variety comes from the amount of weapons you can use).

Final Fight honestly doesn't even rate.

>> No.1449008

>>1448875
>I love SoR, but even the most challenging game in that series is still a bit too easy.

1cc SOR2 on Mania and then try saying that again.

>> No.1449669

My biggest problem with SoR2 is the speed. It feels slow. That's weird to me. Considering the 7.6MHZ processor on the Genesis, the characters all move very sluggishly (even Skate) in comparison to the fast movement speeds and action of Final Fight 2. Seems like this should be reversed.

Anyway, my vote is for Final Fight simply because of Final Fight 2 on the SNES. The faster movement speed in comparison to SoR and the first Final Fight port make it more fun to play for me.

I will also definitively say that Final Fight 3 is the worst in its series.

>> No.1449682

>>1449669
What is the problem with FF3? 4 characters, tonns of moves, super attacks, what's not to like?

>> No.1449689

>>1449682

The problem is that you have all of these new options but nothing in the game reflects their inclusion. The game is not designed around them.

As a result, the game is very, very easy compared to the other Final Fight becomes because you can do so much but the enemies can't do anything more than the things they could do in the first Final Fight. It's like they were going to design a detailed beat 'em up but then stopped changing things when they got to the enemy design and just threw in what they used for FF1 or FF2.

You can backdash. But you'll never use it because there's nothing to backdash against. So the move is completely useless because no enemy in the game uses any kind of move that necessitates a backdash. It just wasn't very well thought out.

It's like if you went back in time to add eight-directional whipping to the first Castlevania game. Sure, you can do more, but the game isn't designed around the fact that you can do more and so it doesn't have good design.

>> No.1449713

>>1448902

The challenge is intact and it's still essentially the same game. I give it a pass.

Admittedly, I'm bias since it's the only game we're discussing right now that I played as a kid, but being nostalgic never stopped me from shitting on King of the Monsters as an adult.

>> No.1449870

SoR2 just...wins. It has everything. It's often seen as a knock-off series, but Streets of Rage 2 really is superior to the Final Fight games on the SNES.

I will say that the quality of Turtles in Time, however, is unquestionable and it's better than Hyperstone Heist.

>> No.1449958

>>1444789
contra hard corps shits all over contra 3

>> No.1449964

>>1446576
there both pretty bad arcade ports

>> No.1449969

>>1446663
wow confirmed for knowing nothing about games, what about sega arcade games and master system games, sega's arcade division shits all over Nintendo's efforts.

>> No.1449973

>>1446756
I don't like the megaman games

>you will never play alien soldier without a megadrive

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>>1448887
>Final Fight 2 is way better than Final Fight 3

I have no idea how anybody can say that with a straight face.

It's hilariously easy. I've played through it on the highest difficulty to see the true ending, and the only differences are the number of enemies and amount of health they have. On top of, it still showers you with enough continues to just brute force your way through the game.

Worst of all, it does nothing whatsoever to improve on the original's formula. Whereas SOR2 was a giant leap forward in terms of everything, FF2 is still the exact same barebones 3-hit combo-one-throw-unless-you're-Haggar-jumpkick routine that the first game was. It's embarrassingly lazy.

And then there's that goddamn Holland stage. Its gimmick is that there are landmines everywhere. They don't do all that damage, so they're really more annoying than dangerous, but because you have to awkwardly pace around them to try to get the enemies to blow themselves up, the pace just slows down to a crawl. And while all of this is happening, this godawful thing keeps droning in the background:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePjplcp3-CA

Oh, and it only has three characters to choose from.

I guess they realized how much they fucked up with this one and tried to actually improve the gameplay in FF3, but by then it was too little too late, and BK3 smokes it in every regard.

>> No.1450149

>>1450145
*I accidentally words

>> No.1450172

>>1450145
I was about to post a response to that guy but you did a much better job than anything I had in my head.

Only thing here is that I don't care for SoR3 and prefer FF3 to it a lot because of the combo system.

>> No.1450253

>>1449969
I guess that's why we have been seeing so many Sega Arcade games lately- oh, wait.

Segassholes live in the past because that's all what they have- a long lost era that went to hell thanks to Sega's own incompetence, while Nintendo curbstomped them as has been going strong since then.

>> No.1450262

>>1450253
>going strong since

It must be hard being this delusional. Nintendo is so outclassed these days that it doesn't even have the best handheld; Sony kills it in that category too.

>> No.1450268

>>1450262
> Sony better than Nintendo

Yeah, about that.

>> No.1450271

>>1450268
Its sad, but true. The last Nintendo platform worth owning was the GBA. That's barely not /vr/ material; that's how long its been since Nintendo mattered.

>> No.1450279

>>1450253
Speak for yourself. Nintendo is losing the current console war, so now you've resorted to bringing up their victories from the past.

Exactly who is living in the past?

>> No.1450282

>>1450271
Doesn't matter since Sega has been working for Nintendo after losing the console wars and being reduced to a third party programmer.

Wake me up once you have a Nintendo game running on a Sega console and then we will resume the conversation.

>> No.1450372

>>1450253
your point was that Sega hasn't made any good games before 1993 which I just completely dismissed as bullshit, also they still make arcade games even if they are in decline what about f zero ax a great Sega game

>> No.1452192

>>1450271
>hating on the DS
I can't speak for the 3DS, but the DS was a fucking fantastic handheld.

>> No.1452198

>>1452192

So is the 3DS.

Nintendo has never made a bad handheld. The original Gameboy onwards is all great shit. Funny how they always seem to strike gold with handhelds no matter if the console seems to falter a bit.

>> No.1452294

Puyo Puyo always managed to be better on the SNES because they were released last.

Somehow even better than the PC Engine's CD based versions.

>> No.1452358

>>1443301
I'm gonna get called a casual, but I preferred the Genesis version of Ghouls'n Ghosts.

>> No.1452359

>>1450145

Dude, FF3 is way, way easier than FF2. A paralyzed monkey could 1cc that on the highest difficulty.

Even if you hate FF2, FF3 just did everything worse.

>> No.1452361

>>1452358

You're completely in the right though.

Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts ran like shit on the SNES.

>>1450253

...How petty do you have to be here, man? I mean, what kinda person on /vr/ doesn't own both a Genesis and a SNES at this point?

>> No.1452364

>>1450279

>Bringing modern console wars on retarded 'doomsday prophecies' for Nintendo or Sony onto /vr/
>Implying Nintendo is doing poorly

God, please go back to...

Not even /v/, leave /v/ alone. Go to The Escapist or something.

>> No.1452374

Secret of Mana > Beyond Oasis
Chrono Trigger > Phantasy Star
Fire Emblem > Shining Force
SNES Aladdin > Genesis Aladdin
Sonic the Hedgehog = Mario
Castlevania Bloodlines > SCIV
Contra Hard Corps > Contra 3
Ghouls 'n Ghosts *(Genesis) > Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts (SNES)
Rocket Knight Adventures > Sparkster (SNES) > Sparkster (Genesis)
Streets of Rage > Final Fight

Indisputable.

>> No.1452384

>>1452374
>Rocket Knight Adventures > Sparkster (SNES) > Sparkster (Genesis)
>SNES Aladdin > Genesis Aladdin
What made the SNES version better? Kinda curious now. Rest of the list is spot on, though.

>> No.1452401

>>1452384

It's all a matter of opinion of course.

Rocket Knight Adventures on the Genesis is, most would agree, the best game in that entire series. The sequel is more divisive. I prefer the SNES version because it actually feels more like the original RKA. I think it has more variety to it. Then again, I haven't played either Sparkster in a very long time so I'm really up for alternate opinions on that.

As for Aladdin, the SNES version (while having poorer animation) looks and sounds much better and I hate the sword in the Genesis version. The sword in Aladdin (Genesis) feels incredibly flaccid and it's just not fun to use. Jumping on enemies in the SNES game is way more satisfying. The SNES version wins because of Capcom, basically. Capcom had it down better than Virgin.

>> No.1452421

>>1452401
>Rocket Knight Adventures on the Genesis is, most would agree, the best game in that entire series. The sequel is more divisive. I prefer the SNES version because it actually feels more like the original RKA. I think it has more variety to it. Then again, I haven't played either Sparkster in a very long time so I'm really up for alternate opinions on that.
Same here, actually. I remember liking the Genesis version more, but I haven't played them in years.

>>1452401
>As for Aladdin, the SNES version (while having poorer animation) looks and sounds much better and I hate the sword in the Genesis version. The sword in Aladdin (Genesis) feels incredibly flaccid and it's just not fun to use. Jumping on enemies in the SNES game is way more satisfying. The SNES version wins because of Capcom, basically. Capcom had it down better than Virgin.
Understandable, it's also a bit more faithful to the movie. I don't remember Aladdin using a sword much, and he always preferred to use acrobatics and guile to defeat his foes. Like in the first scene in the movie.

>> No.1452431

The SNES is better than the MegaDrive.

Super Mario RPG
Donkey Kong Country 1-3
Super Metroid
Link to the Past
Earthbound
Chrono Trigger
Yoshi's Island
Legend of Gaia
Mega Man X

>> No.1452437

>>1452431

The Genesis is better than the SNES.

Sonic the Hedgehog 1-3 + Sonic and Knuckles
Ristar
Ecco the Dolphin
Beyond Oasis
Phantasy Star
Shining Force
Rocket Knight Adventures
Vectorman 1 and 2
Contra Hard Corps

>> No.1452440

>>1452437

Is that all you got?

Goof Troop
Actraiser
Turtles in Time
Super Mario World
Super Punch-Out
Soul Blazer
FFVI
Kirby Super Star
Tetris Attack
Secret of Nevermore

>> No.1452443

Also, Mortal Kombat 2 is better on the SNES.

>> No.1452448

>>1452440

Oh-ho? I'm just getting started.

Gunstar Heroes
Comix Zone
The Ooze
X-Men 2
Toejam and Earl
Streets of Rage 2
TMNT: The Hyperstone Heist
Tazmania
Landstalker
Splatterhouse 2 and 3
Herzog Zwei
Truxton
Zero Wing

>> No.1452452

>>1452443

Mortal Kombat 2 is shit on any console.

>> No.1452453

>>1452448
>Tazmania

As someone whose favorite console in the Genesis you are not making it look very good by naming that one.

>> No.1452456

>>1452453

It just came out, man.

...And it's not terrible or anything. I mean come on, he mentioned Goof Troop.

>> No.1452461

>>1452448

Yawn.

Super Ghosts n Goblins
Star Fox
F-Zero
Super Star Wars
Demon's Crest
Wild Guns
Killer Instinct
Final Fight
Sim City

>> No.1452475

Also:

Breath of Fire
Ogre Battle

>> No.1452482

Still more:

Super Mario Kart
Secret of Mana
Super Castlevania IV

>> No.1452496

>>1452482
>>1452475
>>1452461

Super Hang-On
Afterburner
Shinobi 3
Wonder Boy in Monster World
Pulseman
Thunder Force IV
Mega Turrican
Ghouls 'n Ghosts which runs way, way better than Super Ghosts 'n Goblins
Dune 2
Crusader of Centry
Yu Yu Hakusho
Pirates Gold
Road Rash 2
MUSHA
Ranger X
Kid Chameleon
Alien Soldier
Shadow Dancer
ESWAT
Strider

What

>> No.1452503

>>1452456
Goof Troop is an amazing game made by the very talented Shinji Mikami

>> No.1452512

>>1452507

Do you think everyone here lives in the United States or something?

>> No.1452507

>>1452496

Oh, we're doing games that were never released in the US? Fine.

Umihara Kawase
Shin Megami Tensei
Fire Emblem
Bahamut's Lagoon
Seiken Densetsu 3
The Firemen
Terranigma
Tales of Phantasia
Star Ocean

>> No.1452508

Can't we agree that both consoles were pretty awesome?

>> No.1452514

>>1452507

>He's avoided listing any PAL games until now

There's a reason so many people here call it the Megadrive, you know.

>> No.1452530

>>1452198
>3DS and DS

The reason >>1450271 mentioned the GBA as being the last great Nintendo platform is because of the PSP. The 3DS/DS are still good, but not indisputably the best.

Look at the GBA's competition (regardless of generation): Neo-Geo Pocket Color, Wonderswan Color, N-Gage, Tapwave Zodiac.

None of them are bad handhelds, they all have entertaining games that'll keep you occupied. They just never took a dominating position.

>> No.1452534

>>1452507
Thanks for confirming that the SNES is the RPG console.

>>1452512
>Do you think not everyone here knows Japanese or something?

>> No.1452549

>>1452534

No, I confirmed that the SNES had the wider variety of genres.

>> No.1452579

>>1452549

Actually, no, just RPGs.

>> No.1452582

>>1452549
SNES's crippled low mhz processor made it perfect for Zeldas and Final Fantasies. I wouldn't say the SNES had a wide variety of genres by any large margin. Wide variety of JRPGs, sure.

>> No.1452609

I hate these threads now like you can't even reason with snes fans somehow ranger x at 30 fps is unacceptable yet starfox which is even worse gets a pass because muh nintendo. I like both systems its fun to argue which you personally like better but fucking super Nintendo fags are the dumbest little shits ever.

>> No.1452619

Also, the NES was better than the Master System, the Game Boy was better than the Game Gear, and the N64 was better than the Saturn.

>> No.1452626

>>1452609
Are you denying that the SNES is better in every way?

>> No.1452630

>>1452609

both sides are full of giant huffy retards (like you)

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>>1452619
>the Game Boy was better than the Game Gear

>> No.1452631

>>1452626
see exactly what I am talking about. fuck this shit.

>> No.1452634

You'll never feel the pleasure of playing Wonder Boy III as an 8 year old boy.

>> No.1452635

>>1452619
The PC Engine was better than the NES, the TurboExpress was better than the Game Boy, and the Playstation was better than the N64.

>> No.1452639

>>1452635

>TurboExpress

If it's better, why have I never heard of it?

And the NES's library blows the PC Engine's out of the water.

>> No.1452642

>>1452609
Nintendo fans are the majority because Nintendo's business model was to push out cheap consoles with 5+ year old chips, so it ended up being more agreeable with parents. More kids were familiar with Nintendo, so there's going to be more cognitive dissonance and denial involved with Nintendofags.

>> No.1452643

>>1452631

I think they're just trolling at this point. At least I hope so.

>> No.1452645

>>1452642

Nintendo fans are the majority because they know who's the best.

>> No.1452646

>>1452639
If the Game Boy is better, then why was it obsolete on release?

>> No.1452648

>>1452630
segassholes have every reason to get huffy seeing how Nintendo babies can't reason with logic. they give anything on their console a free pass. I grew up with the super Nintendo and was a huge Mario and dkc fan those games just don't do it for me anymore I prefer playing.something like truxton or thunderforce so I think the genesis is better because rpgs and kid friendly platformers just aren't my thing anymore.

>> No.1452649

>>1452646

Name some games for the TurboExpress.

>> No.1452652

>>1452649
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_Engine_games

>> No.1452658

>>1452648

keep on diggin bro

>> No.1452659

>>1452652

I said TurboExpress, not PC-Engine.

So the TurboExpress had no games of its own?

>> No.1452662

>>1452648

Segatards are huffy because every console after the MegaDrive sucked.

>> No.1452665

>>1452662
1/10 apply yourself

>> No.1452673

>>1452645
actually you're the majority because most of /vr/ is casual as fuck and would rather waste hours pressing A on menus than actually getting good at a game. its always the most casual games with mainstream appeal that get the most praise around here.

>> No.1452682

>>1443301
Batman&Robin was so much better on Genesis.

I realized only years later that the SNES version doesn't even have multiplayer,

>> No.1452691

>>1452673
That's not true, Pilotwings requires holding down direction buttons.

>> No.1452718

>>1452673

>Not knowing that NES games were notoriously hard

Was your first console a PS1?

>> No.1452725

>>1444860
>> You will never et to play as the Cyborg 009 team on the Genesis.

Who cares?

I have GRINDSTORMER!

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>>1452718
Most of the "notoriously hard" games on the NES were badly programmed. So yes, they were hard.

>> No.1452751

>>1452748

>Ninja Gaiden and Castlevania are badly programmed

Confirmed for underage.

>> No.1452758

And using a notoriously bad game that just happens to be on the NES as an example that most NES games are badly programmed is called cherry-picking.

>> No.1452760

>>1452751
I'm pretty sure he's referring to badly coded games like the image he posted.

Also, most NES games were NOT notoriously hard.

>> No.1452765

>>1452758
>most NES games are badly programmed
no one said this

>> No.1452770

>>1452760

>Most NES games were NOT notoriously hard

Lolwut? Are you being retarded on purpose? Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden are still known as being very hard to this day.

>> No.1452768

>>1452751
Castlevania II was badly programmed as fuck, retard. Stop posting until you actually know what you're talking about.

>> No.1452772

>>1452768

Castlevanias I and III weren't. I think YOU'RE the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

>> No.1452778

is it possible to have a single good thread like this without shit flinging on this board

its like i'm on /v/

>> No.1452779

>>1452770
Can you read? I said most NES games are not hard. Ninja Gaiden and Castlevania, even if you take the whole series into consideration (that would be 6 games), are not "most" NES games by any stretch of the definition.

Also, whatever it's worth, those games tend to get difficult in the second half of the game, whereas the first halves of the game are usually standard difficulty.

>> No.1452781

>>1452779

When did I say MOST NES games weren't hard? I said "NES games were notoriously hard".

>> No.1452790

>>1452781
>When did I say MOST NES games weren't hard?

You didn't? Follow the conversation maybe?

>> No.1454707

>>1443312
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/02/shinji_mikami_prefers_the_sega_version_of_aladdin_even_though_he_worked_on_the_snes_game

Only weenies played the Super Nintendo version.

>> No.1454745

>>1452359
It might be easy, but at least it had four characters, an updated fighting system, better soundtrack and branching routes to show for it.

Unless you count Streetwise and Revenge, FF2 is the worst game in the series.

>> No.1454820

>>1452609
>assuming it's SNES fans complaining about Ranger X

Also Toejam & Earl sucks for the same reason. Doesn't stop Genesis being the best 4th gen console.

>> No.1454831

>had both snes and genesis
>got the best of both worlds
>played the shit out of both
>liked both
>still prefer genesis by far
Dem fucking games man. Genesis had the muscle to push better gameplay even though it didn't look as good as the snes.

>> No.1455086

>>1454820
Ranger X would've been 100x better if there were shmup stages where you'd get inside your ship and shoot stuff.

>> No.1455091

>>1454707
>alladin has a sword
Wow, what a shitty version. Apples > swords.

>> No.1455098

>>1455091
But swords are COOL and EDGY! And we all know that's what matters!

Genesis was the original "Mature games for hardcore gamers such as myself" console. Just in a somewhat different way.

>> No.1455109

>>1455086
I can't think of a single non-shmup game with shmup stages where the shmup stages are any good. Games should stick to one genre.

>> No.1455134

>>1455109
Guardian Legend? Keio Yugekitai (Keio Flying Squadron 2)? The Metal Slug series?

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>>1455091
>>1455098
>being this analdevastated over receiving the inferior version

Stay jelly as fuck, Nintenyearolds .

>> No.1455195

>>1455091


I can respect a preference for not having a sword, but I just don't understand it. I feel the Genesis version just feels more fun.

>> No.1455573

Why is everyone shitflinging over a console war from 2 decades ago? Cant we just accept that both consoles have flaws and positives and hold hands in glorious idortdom?

>> No.1455605

>>1455195
The sword doesn't even feels realistic, it's fast paced as hell.

>>1455186
Your shit taste, your opinion.

>> No.1455680

>>1455091
He has apples as well... You are such a buffoon! His idling animation is to juggle an apple in a reference to a scene in the film...

It's silly for Aladdin to defeat enemies by jumping on their heads like Sonic. This way has a greater sense of adventure and peril.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBhOHS0U1Cs&t=1m45s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8vUMn-ij8o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y05g1tTZzk

The Mega Drive game's graphics are really artful and true to the film. The SNES game in contrast could be a Mickey Mouse platformer. It just can't compare. There's a reason the MD game was ported to PC and not the SNES one.

Bosses, especially the final boss is the only possible weakness in the MD game. In all other aspects the MD game is superior.

>> No.1455682

>>1455605
Guess if having shit taste means I get to enjoy the better game then so be it. At least I won't be stuck with pieces of shit like Mario, Zelda and Final Fantasy in my games library.

>> No.1455683

>>1455605
Enjoy your dime-a-dozen headbop platformer, chum.