/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-If you feel like trying a new mod, give GMOTA a chance! Go check it here! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401#p742401

-The past Awesome Games Done Quick featured a playthrough of Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and also a Doom 2 race which was a result of a bid war between that game and Ultimate Doom. To rewatch the Doom speedruns, go follow this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1

-Guess who received an update? OBLIGE! Now it's in version number 6, and oh man things surely have improved; go check it here! http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=307.0

-CACOWARDS? SURE, HERE! http://www.doomworld.com/20years.. Feel absolutely free to share your thoughts about the works chosen for this edition. And, well, they surely left a lot of stuff to discuss related to the decisions made on some wads...

-From the creators of Russian Overkill, here is to you The Guncaster! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37066 Give it a try if you want.

-ChocoDoom got updated in the 20th anniversary. Now you can play Heretic, Hexen and Strife too! Go grab each version of them here! http://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

-Jimmy's Jukebox may be get a new update very soon...get hype!!! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29117&start=180

>>1441436
Yeah, and Edward (ZDoom netcode dev) offered to help. I think that when I last brought it up Edward said that he didn't contact him for help but that might have changed.

>>1441442
Krang? Is that you?

This seems as best a place to ask, and you probably hear it a lot, but how do I run a custom wad in Doomsday? I can get the vanilla games to run but not this mappack

>>1441442
>tfw micro chaingun

>>1441453
Drag the wad onto the exe.

>>1441462
I try that and hit play and this is what I get.

>>1441469

try configuring it so that it ALWAYS loads Doom 2

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1eEVFoSYZO1

>>1441469
Get ZDL and set that shit up.

It's the easiest way to run any mod with any source port and Doom IWAD

>>1441475
Like this? Because that way isn't working

>>1441480
Downloaded it and instantly felt like an idiot because no idea how to work that thing

>>1441493
Go into setup.

IWADs are core Doom files like DOOM, DOOM2, HERETIC, HEXEN
PWAD are mods like TSP, MSX, Scythe, Unloved and anything custom made by the community.
Source ports are like Doomsday, ZDoom, GZDoom

Just match these names to the categories I listed

It's worth setting up because after the first time it's very easy to just pick what you want to play.

>>1441498
Got an idiot proof tutorial for this? Because ZDL I can't work out and Doomsday refuses to run the wad.

>>1441517
Okay, first open ZDL.
Then look for the options menu.

Then put the IWADS I listed to where I said to put them.

Then put your source ports(Doomsday, ZDoom, GZDoom) where it asks for it.

Then that's it. You're done.

Load PWADs when you want them to.

>>1441517
what wad is it

>>1441521
Like this?

>>1441478
what on deimos was that?

>>1441542
Also if it helps I think I just realized that it might just be a sound and texture mod

are you supposed to jump/duck in strife?
can you enter the first dungeon (the sanctuary) without getting detected?

>>1441550
Jumping yes, crouching no. You can't avoid setting the alarm off when you enter the sanctuary, but it won't affect the town so don't worry.

>>1441557
k, thanks

>>1441541
>1)Its no balanced[You have a damn BFG shot since the beginning]
The powered up grenade, right?
>>1441517
There was pic that helped with it and also had link to the iwads and shit, kinda like the old "So you want to play some fucking DOOM" pic, but I don't have it, sadly.

>>1441447
>ZDoom netcode dev

An oxymoron if there ever was one.

>>1441574
the powered up greanade is a BFG shot and the weapons are kinda unbalaned and we might see Nailshotgun jousting
then again,weapons and greanades are unbalanced and so is the speed of the game

where is everyone is zdaemon? there's maybe 30 people conbined on all the servers.

>>1441594
I heard there's some new fancy-pants Doom multiplayer thingy.

>threads that are constantly cluttering up the front page and remade the very instant an old one dies
Oh hey, we have a board for this don't we?
>>>/vg/

>>1441602
Leave.

>>1441542
Yeah like that.
Put all your IWADs in there though for ease of access.

>>1441602

>thatpicturewheremootsaidDoombelongsinthe/vr/board.jpg

>>1441597

what is it? surely not doomsday. there was never anyone in that mutiplayer back in the day

>>1441602
Hey. Hey. Heeeey. Doom is a RETRO game. Think about it.

>>1441602
You never give up,right?

>>1441612
Um. I'm not sure. Sorry.

>>1441594
on zandronum

>>1441602
It hasn't been on the front page for hours.

>>1441623
that's straight up wrong anon

>>1441612

>>1441621
That's the one.

>>1441594
We use Zandronum.

>>1441645
Wait, does the Doom thread have its own server? That would be cool.

Another question: Should I remove my trip. I just remembered that a lot of folks don't like tripfags like myself.

Previous thread summary:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32628
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http://www.deimos.ca/psxdoom/psxsound.zip
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XD

>>1441648
servers with /vr/ in the name are /vr/ but not all /vr/ are marked with /vr/

might as well remove it, the name isn't associated with a project or anything

>>1441650
>servers with /vr/ in the name are /vr/ but not all /vr/ are marked with /vr/
>mfw

Trip removed.

>>1441648
We don't mind tripfags if they aren't faggots.

And no, we don't have /vr/-specific servers. We host and play whatever is appealing at the time.
Like how yesterday there was a Metroid server hosted. Probably is still up.

>>1441648
Unless your Trip is connected to a project, like the GMOTA guy, then there really isn't a reason to have one on at all times.

>>1441627
>>1441621

that was it thanks. damn never thought Id see the day when zdaemon was kicked to the curb..

>>1441657
>yfw gmota_guy doesn't trip
neither does terminus for samsara or metroid

fuck it just spawnitemex a shitload of gibs with random angles and velocities on death with blood mists and gooey wall blood and blood pools and organs and shit and bones

>>1441667
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_uKKWx40NA

>>1441660
Zandronum has been around since 2012, and Skulltag, which it is based on, has been around far longer than that.

>>1441672

haven't been on zdaemon since then so that would explain it

>>1441671
inb4 mark steals this too

>>1441662
Shit, I never noticed that he doesn't actually trip. Shows my attention to detail.

>>1441649
That's a good summary.
We should add it to the pasta. Though I got my psxsounds thing from another site.

>>1441649
>unfitting reverb baked into everything
please let there be a version without this bullshit

>>1441707
That's a PSX effect I think.
This one http://crud.toshiba-3.com/doom.shtml was ripped straight from the disk so it shouldn't have that. I tried the other one and it sounds a bit worse imo.

>>1441707
http://crud.toshiba-3.com/doom/psxs.zip

No shit reverb and louder.

>>1441713
>>1441719
Thing is that the ssg sounds a bit weaker and samey to the normal shotty.
The chaingun and plasma gun sound way better though.

>>1441726
The SSG reload sounds are the same in PSX, the Crud upload just doesn't have reverb masking it. Open them in Slade and compare side by side.

Anyone know anything about the Doom sound process? It was definitely compressed, possibly even overdriven or just clipped, and was downsampled but I'd like to know some specifics since I'm having a difficult time making sounds similar to the Doom SFX and I'm hoping it'll shine a bit of light on what I'm missing.

>>1441729
I'm talking about the firing sound, it feels weak without the reverb.

>>1441649
That's an awful "PSX sounds" file. the quality is dreadful, some sounds are cut off short, some aren't even the right sounds, the barons don't make the right noise, hell it's more than the barons, it's pretty much everything in this mod.

Here's that BDSE addon I promised for the rifle I did in the last thread.

https://www.mediafire.com/?9wlercje3xtceqy

>>1441741
>>1441649
People should use this one
>>1441719
>>1441713

>>1441749
For the frame where the sprite is scaled up you'd be better off using Textures to create them and use XYScale to make them larger. A lot cleaner.

>>1441820
Oh nevermind, it's not a straight up rescale.

>>1441749
the reload sprites are antialiased

>>1441853
duplicated and merged to make it more obvious

Hi guys, been years since i've been modding.

I have a Question about making monster enter pain state with a machete. Do i have to edit all the monster decorate or can i do something in the weapon itself?

I want to make a 'stun' effect.

>>1441869
FORCEPAIN innit

>>1441732
Don't worry about that. Use Perk's HD sounds instead. The dude tracked down almost every sound from the libraries Bobby Prince used to make the sounds, and redid them at higher quality.

>>1441869
Is it a custom pain state or do you just want to force them to pain state? If the latter, then yeah, should be called +FORCEPAIN or something

>>1441874
Anon I said I wanted to make sounds with the implication that they'd ideally have a similar timbre.

>>1441857
actually, the first-frame is like that because it was hand-painted with some pixelwork applied here and there - the second is like that due to it being a rotation with some edits in places.

>>1441478
dub step remix are not nothing new.
I kinda wish doom 4 would be no so srs and a bit styalized and cartoony. Also I wish they turn up he 'controversy' and show or heavily imply demons raping men women and babies and in some cases animals. I feel like video games play it too safe and limit themselves when establishing lore/atmosphere.


and gather them for sickly twisted metal and flesh experiments

>>1441904
that's festival trap and i don't think it's a remix of any doom track, it's just hype music

>>1441872
>>1441880


I want to to enter painstate or flinch a lot, stun effect.

I was thinkin custom pain state but their a lot of monsters edit. +FORCEPAIN on the machete (chainsaw replacement) or do i have to make it a projectile/puff

>>1441910
idk, try it on the machete and see if it works

>>1441882
Not him but,do you want to make new sounds for doom in the way ID did?

>>1441912
k

>>1441916
I don't care if it's the exact process or workflow, but I would like to get an idea of the equipment. Maybe learning a bit about what was used and how it works would help trigger some revelation.

>>1441908
>>1441910
First of all it isn't exactly a lot of work to redefine all the monsters using inheritance. Also you have to put the damagetype on the puff for example:

http://pastebin.com/JDxd3VeG

>>1441919
You should glue a microphone and a recorder to a bull or a cow or horse or a pig and piss themm off and you can get new monster sounds

>>1441924
>http://pastebin.com/JDxd3VeG
ah okay. Fukken saved

I though puff only happen when it hits a wall not monsters.

A_custompunch_

>>1441924
No, I'm referring to the processing exclusively. I have plenty of source material. The issue is getting it to have a similar timbre. Just downsampling to 11025 8-bit isn't good enough, there's more to it. A certain flavour of distortion, a compressor, all sorts of things.

Like constant -26db noise, possibly a tiny bit of aliasing folding under the nyquist (it's hard to tell since it's mostly the noisy ones that have enough high-frequencies to cause it and it's masked by all the noise).

I'm thinking that some go through a heavy compressor, then they all get overdriven a bit, some get clipped, but the character of these elements is elusive.

If I knew anything about the equipment I could look up its specs and mimic it, or perhaps locate a software emulation.

>>1441940
maybe you can recreate that by messing around in audacity?

>>1441912
yeah did nothing lol.

>>1441940
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37977&hilit=downsample

Read that thread for some bullshit.

But what I'm saying is, if you use Perk's HD sounds, then they aren't downsampled like the originals at all, and you don't have to worry about fucking with them to make them "fit."

So I want to use Doom Golden Souls weaponry as a standalone thing and I'm in the decorate and the weapons say stuff like

Cannon : Weapon 22027

Do I just change 22027 to something like "Rocket launcher" to replace the original rocket launcher pickup?

>>1441973

If you want to replace it do this

Cannon : Weapon replaces RocketLauncher

Or whatever the name is of the Doom rocket launcher

>>1441967
I'm beyond what this thread offers, I can alias and downsample just fine. There's more to Doom's sound than that.

I want them to sound like vanilla Doom sounds, I want them to sound old.

>>1441981
Okay, just checking.
I really like Golden Soul's weaponry and want to use it for just about anything right now.

Now I just need to figure out what to replace the Plasma Rifle with since there's two candidates there, the Crossbow or spike gun.

Probably have to fiddle with ammo drops for which I pick too.

Thank you for helping.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45396

ok-ok which one of you is this?

>>1441996

wut? Not me

>>1441935
MEANT FOR>>1441923

>>1441935
Even though the puff doesn't appear when hitting a monster, the properties are still applied.

>>1442023
Wow thants /doom/ general!
you guys are nice and fuck.

>>1442027
>you guys are nice and fuck.
i wish

>>1441992 again
The switch was really easy to do and now I got all the weapons in place.

Didn't know the crossbow used the rocket launcher pickup sprite though, that's the only funky thing about it.

Replaced Bullet boxes with AK47 ammo pickups since it doesn't share revolver ammo.
Will probably replace small cell packs with spikes too.

Replaced the Super shotgun with the Crossbow since I wasn't a fan of the Autoshotgun mechanics + reloading at all

Other than that it works like a charm, thanks again mate.

I finally found this thing again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOIYbQTji-A

Some guy made this like a year ago but it's got random blue and white all around the edges. I just tried for like an hour but I can't get rid of them without manually drawing over the fucking thing, and I'm no good at that.

That, and it needs some death frames, and could probably use a helpful hand to make it look actually animated.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0oBzkFuQq2E

Hell yeah retro shit

Doom 3 beta pistol

>>1442083
It looks like it is smiling in the top three rows

>>1442092
And the caco isn't?

>>1442032
sheeeeeeeit

>>1442095
I consider the Cacodemon to be grinning in a way that tries to be evil but ends up kinda cute.

That sprite sheet just looks so happy in the top three rows.

>>1441684

Yeah good going anon, jesus it's like you're too busy reading the posts themselves and taking note of the gifs I post

That's how I want it. Also I'm too lazy to use a trip

>>1441904
Haven't I seen this before?

>>1442120
seen what?

>>1442063
sweet.

>>1442125
That one post.

Maybe not the exact wording, but the things he said.

>>1442057
>>1441992
>tfw Golden Souls is the closest to a proper russian weapon mod and it just has two guns and one of them can maybe be interpreted as the TOZ-34
Feels bad

>>1442032
feels bad man

>>1442130
Som anon posted a russian weapon mod that looked nice some threads ago. I can't remember the name, sadly.

>>1442161
Is it the one with the rips from STALKER with white camoflauge sleeves?

That was really nice but it really clashes with Doom's sprites due to quality difference.

Looks much better than those CoD rips mods though.

so the harmony grills lesbo or what

>>1442171
i dunno mayne but dat space pirate is tho

>>1442180
Mel is lesbios?
Eyepatch lesbios even?

Very progressive and cool

>>1442186
Haha, yeah she is. Not that it's important or anything, because it really isn't, but it's just a neat character tidbit.

>>1442191
As long as you don't turn it into the defining feature of her character it's really no problem.

It would just be awkward hearing her spouting one liners like "I FUCKED YOU LIKE THE LADIES I AM KNOWN FOR HAVING SEX WITH" or things like that.

>>1442195
Nah, it's not a crucial element of her character, I mean I didn't even tell her VA.

By the way, if anyone wants to draw some kick ass intermission art for me that'd be badass! If not uh...well...

>>1442210
I was only joking mate.

I don't think anyone in the Doom community would tack on something unnecessary to the character.

Even Trailblazer's silly backstory (With.. Fridge?) didn't feel out of place.

>>1442227
Haha no, I knew you were joking :P

My favorite part of Trailblazer was doing PillowBlaster's really bad oneliners, by the way. I also did VO for an animation for it but I haven't seen the finished result, and that was sometime last year.

>>1442108
It always bothered me too, but I figured I could deal with it.

Until I looked at the actual D64 PE sprites, and then decided, fuck it, this thing needs an overhaul.

>>1442227
Stuffed into the Fridge: A character is killed off in a particularly gruesome manner and left to be found just to offend or insult someone, or to cause someone serious anguish. The usual victims are those who matter to the hero, specifically best buddies, love interests, and sidekicks.

Hell a shit

Techbase stronk

>>1442242
I like Techbase mixed with Hell.

Like a level that gets more hellish as you go along, or a Hell place that turns into a techish area.

Something about it feels great.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45397

Yo, doom general. I've played through 1 and 2, and a bunch of wads, but I'm kind of tired of the game right now. Are there any other good "older" ( Not recent, I mean) shooters that you would recommend? I just played through the first episode of dn3d and loved it. Didn't play so many games when I was younger. Somebody recommended Half life and The No one lives forever series. How's shadow warrior? Serious sam 2?

Tl;dr tell me some other good older fps games

>>1442264
HL is great. Shadow Warrior is iffy but decent. Douk rules.

>>1442264
Shadow Warrior, Marathon 2, Halo, Blood

>>1442252
uh... wut?

>>1442252
I didn't even knew that this game existed

Is it any good?

>>1442237
First rotaton is mostly done. Just some touch ups here and there left, and I have to fix up the last couple frames on the right, but it's getting there.

What should he shoot out? Regular Lost Souls are boring.

>>1442309
Suction attack + two slow fireballs

>>1442303
what if he tried to vaccum you in instead of shooting stuff?

>>1442309

>Sucks you in to chew on your face

Jesus christ, how horrifying.

>>1442264
Postal, maybe? And have you played Hexen or Heretic? They're worth a try.
Also, I know you said you're tired of Doom but I would recommend checking out Project MSX, it's great.

>>1442342
Try the first Blood game. BUT NOT THE SECOND ONE. I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.

>>1442309
>>1442312
>>1442315
He's still a Pain Elemental and he's got those huge shooters on his arms, and I intend on throwing him into my personal monster randomizer to replace PEs anyway, so he's gotta have some kinda low-level monster shooting out of there. Maybe I'll dig up something on R667.

But I do love the "vacuum" concept. Like a demonic Kirby. I have no idea if that's possible in DECORATE though, nor how to achieve it. Maybe I should make a thread on the forums.

>>1442356
Reverse pushback/kick maybe?
I know that on a weapon, A_Recoil can, wen put on minus, make the player move forward.

>>1442264
Since you said "Fps" I'll sort of stretch the definitions and say Deus Ex. I thought it was shitty as I started it, and then I realized I was wrong. Oh, so wrong.

>>1442356
from this sprite it'd be easy to imagine some poor guy getting both his arms eaten at the same time, with the true mouth getting closer and closer to his head

>>1442356
what if swallowing a zombie/imp corpse made him shoot bones (or if you want something silly, just shoot back the legs for surprise ass kicking)

>>1442471
I'm not entirely sure that's possible without some heavy-duty coding that's way above my level. I'd imagine that would entail A) knowing what it just ate and B) being able to spit back individual items because of it.

Although it already shoots Lost Souls (or some variant thereof) so the obvious solution is that it converts its victims into Lost Souls.

>>1442480
not sure if that feature was kept in recent versions/BDSE, but i think at some point barons of hell were able to pick up corpses and throw them at you, maybe that can help

GMOTA guy, what will you do about the difficulty? GMOTA has everything from those classic games except the difficulty that made them good in the first place.
>>1441671
Yo hook a nigga up wit dat download

>>1442506

I'm having someone help me add a little more to the game's difficulty, if all goes well we'll have boss monsters, gauntlet-style nests were monsters are spawned, and some other shit

I've been contemplating making them more aggressive too

Surprisingly, this is almost done, just needs death frames now. And testing, and then we'll see if it needs another frame, etc.

Of course, I'm a lazy sod and don't feel like slicing it up to put it in the game.

>>1442529
Is it still going to just explode?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33822#p639626
>why would you want to skip cutscenes

>>1442542
I dunno, maybe. I can't exactly draw new frames from scratch.

>>1442556
Yeah, that would be pretty hard.

On a 2spooky note, anyone have suggestions for quality horror WADs?

>>1442560
Unloved is creepy.
Ghoul forest 3 has some nice jump scares with a nice atmosphere, and if you get ghouls cs humans you can play with friends, which is fun as fuck.

Any good Hexen/Heretic wads? I was seeing the Curse of Darkness one, is it any good?

>>1442597
>play as creeper
>use crouch toggle
>hide under stair steps, or ledges
That shit was too good.

>>1442560
Unhinged is half straight up horror and half trippy goofiness.

mouldy pls

>>1442672
That's NOTHING anon. NOTHING.

>>1442672
is there a problem here

>>1442672
>NOTHING

The deal here is, it's fucking mouldy we're talking about. It's not about the amount of monsters, it's HOW that fucker places 'em.

>>1442681

He has been posting screenshots hinting for the future levels of Going Down (his upcoming Boom project). Those who have played The Eye should know by now how fucking difficult it's going to be, considering that by mouldy's own judgement, Going Down is going to be tougher

Are there any good quake 2 source ports? I got 1 running on Darkplaces, but I don't even know where to start with 2.

>>1442695
Quake 2 runs well enough in Vanilla.

Anyway, I finished the fucker. Or at least finished him as much as I can stand to look tonight.

>maybe i was too mean to mike-kun
>i just miss when he did things for me
>i hope he doesn't hate me
>nyaaa...

what exactly does masters of doom talk about? can someone give or link me a short review?

>>1442742

He looks like the "Son I am disappoint" guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aGIY-NG9VM&feature=youtu.be

Testing out that new wand feature, still need to get permission from the guys who made those buster shot sprites though

>>1442757
Basically it covers the entire life of id software up until, roughly, the release of Quake 3 and shortly up to the leadup to Doom 3, although it primarily focuses on the time period between 1993 (when they were developing Doom) to 1996 (when Quake 1 came out).

There's a few short chapters about their days at Softdisk, and then working on Commander Keen and Wolfenstein 3D, and then it jumps headlong into the development process of Doom.

It's not a technical bible or anything--it's a narrative. So it's more about what these guys were doing and what their lives were like at that time. If I were to compare it to a movie, it's that kind of biopic-"based on a true story" movie like The Social Network was.

If all you care about is the game, you might not give a shit, but Doom is VERY much a product of the personalities who made it--because, unlike modern games, there were maybe six guys who made the entire game. (The two Johns, Adrian Carmack, Kevin Cloud, Sandy Peterson, and Bobby Prince, if I'm not wrong.)

The later chapters talk primarily about Romero leaving, the development of Daikatana vs. Quake 3, and so forth. These aren't as Doom-focused as the early chapters (obviously) but like I said, the book is really about how Romero and Carmack were best friends and then suddenly they fucking weren't anymore.

It's a pretty short read (about 200 pages; I read it over the course of a few lunch breaks at work on my phone) but it's a good one. You can find the pdf in ten seconds with Google.

>>1442802
>Romero and Carmack were best friends
I didn't know that to begin with. So. Neat.

>>1442802
Wasn't there another book based on id/Doom? Something more about the technical bits/production, and a little less narrative-y.

>>1442837
Of course they were best friends. They worked together every day for like 6 years, shared an incredible passion for literally everything (games, code, cars, girls--in that order) and put their hearts and souls into everything they made.

id wasn't just a company, it was a bunch of dudes who hung out with each other all the time and occasionally made video games. And they changed the fucking face of gaming as we know it, all but invented the now-predominant video game genre, and made MILLIONS of dollars doing it.

Reading the book won't just be entertaining but it'll make you want to get off your ass and finally do something.

Why can't the two Johns just make up. ;_;

>>1442695

Back in the day (I am talking like early-mid 2000s) there was Quake 2 Evolved, but I dunno if that's the go-to Q2 mod anymore.

>>1442859
I listen to Hotline Miami's music while playing Doom as fast as possible.

I think it fits pretty well together.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85393552/Temp/Polished_Skull-Beta1WIP4.zip

Someone start a deathmatch server

This is Minigunner's enhancement mod and it's really fucking tight

>>1442869
Who knows? They might one day. I don't think there's any actual animosity there anymore--the problems they had at id were mostly about the direction of Quake and bullshit about the engine and stuff like that.

I mean, Romero licensed Quake (and then Quake 2) for Daikatana and Carmack let him; so there was obviously no problem there.

I think it was a question of Romero not being as useful to the company as he was supposed to be. He wasn't focused; the fame and money probably went to his head a little bit. I mean, just look at what happened with Ion Storm.

Now neither of them work for the company they founded. Carmack is doing, well, Oculus Rift, and Romero is doing iPhone games (with Tom Hall, incidentally). They both seem to be doing well enough for themselves.

Maybe one day after Doom 4 comes out, and they see how bad it is, they'll get back together and do one more game. With four other dudes in a lakehouse.

>>1442881
Relevant as hell to this discussion:
A Visit To id Software (1993):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65xJfVkiaI

>>1442878
better than brutal doom

>>1442874
I wonder what it would be like to make a hotline miami mod for doom or half life. I wanted to make a half life one because the engine is more flexible but I'm not knowledgable on that shit

>>1442881

Wow, I didn't know Romero was doing iPhone games.

Also, just to say this upfront, I have minimum experience actually playing Doom WADs, sorta kinda.

I felt really stupid at the time, around two and a half years ago when I discovered them, and went on a spree raiding the doomworld archives.

To date I've played a fraction of what I downloaded and I downloaded maybe half or two thirds at best of the contents on the site that I determined(through a mix of the ratings, the comments, and my personal hunches)were worth checking out.

But I find this pretty amazing. I feel dumb for missing out on a community with such a long lifespan, but damn if it ain't fun playing catch up every now and then.

>>1442881
John Romero was in the double fine adventure documentary for an episode and he fixes cars in his spare time and has a great time. he seems like a really happy individual

>you will never be as happy as john romero

>>1442902
Sometimes I wonder if it's not Carmack that got the short end of the stick. He can make engines all day long, sure, but tell him to build a level and he'll look at you like you have eyestalks coming out of your head.

So when Romero got canned (and remember, Romero built all the good levels in Doom), suddenly all the id games got less cool.

>>1442902
>>1442904
>John Romero went from college kid to geek god to the hardest fucking crash since the Monkees
>still happier with his life than you'll ever be with yours

>>1442907
>found the girl of my dreams
>learning what I love in school
>on track to be somewhat good in life
>have 90% of my life planned ahead of me
I'm pretty happy anon.

>>1442905
you think leaving ID was a hard decision for carmack? I mean after zenimax bought ID it quickly turned to shit FAST.
>no linux support for games anymore
>locking down IDtech engine
there are probably other examples of shittery but those bother me the most.

>>1442878
>Pistol fires as fast as you can click

>>1442905

He sure as hell didn't make the good Quake levels. All the ones I remember most fondly were Willits or McGee levels.

>>1442914

I get this feeling that the iD people just got massively suckered by Zenimax. "Oh sure, you can keep supporting Linux/you can keep releasing your engines as Open Source no problem SIGN THE FUKKEN PAPERS GIVE US YOUR COMPANY" I'd like to think they'd have been more weary of shit like that, but maybe they just didn't give a fuck anymore. I don't know.

>>1442914
I'm sure it wasn't, but at the same time he's got to be disappointed that it had to come to that in the first place.

The Carmack they describe in Masters of Doom is the kind of guy who would rather burn the building down than sell it to some bastards

>>1442930
yeah probably. ID was one of my favorite developers because of their awesome linux support even when literally nobody as big was doing it. they did it because it was the right thing and it was awesome.

>>1442878
Anybody started one yet? I'm itchin' for doom.

>>1442941
no :(

>>1442878
Holy shit, thank you so much for posting that Anon. This is exactly what I've been looking for.

>>1442878

Never heard of this until now. What exactly is it?

>>1442975
Explosions push corpses more, blood mists, muzzleflash glows, gunsmoke that looks like vanilla sprites, weapons work a little different

https://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=87&pid=47611

Here's the thread but it's outdated

>>1442980

Thanks. I played Brutal Doom in the vanilla game when I wasn't playing catch up on old WADs, so when I stopped I guess I never noticed this.

Sound good to me, I already downloaded it and I'll check it out during my next Doom spree. Likely soon.

Which Gen 1-3 Pokemon is the most Doom?

>>1442907
john romero seems like the nicest, most genuine and enthusiastic dude ever

>>1442878
>The shotgun shells are actors
>They're perfectly aligned to the tubes

>>1442998
what do you mean the most doom? you mean the best in the the series because it's gen 3

>>1443005
Closest in theme, like demon, rip and tear, marine, etc.

>>1443008
none of them have any of those themes because nintendo stays away from remotely religious themes even today

>>1443003
>text so tiny
how do I make it bigger in zandronum

>>1443016
Options, Display Options, Message Options

>>1443020
thanks

>>1443016
Play at a smaller resolution.

its me or the redux of music in MIDI in doom sounds cooler than the actual song?

>>1442878

>pistol fires as fast you can click with a burst altifre
>Fists have two different attacks
>chainsaw has weight
>smooth animations

Who made this? It's really nice

>>1443036
Minigunner

>>1443037

They did an excellent job.

DUDE GAIS I CAN HOAST

>>1442878
Okay I'm digging this. Couple things I don't really like: the shell sprites become tiny as fuck on the ground, just looks weird, and the other thing is that the pistol being able to fire as fast as you can click kinda invalidates the minigun. Other than that it's very slick.

>>1443075
The shells look scaled properly to human proportions to me, but yeah. It still looks weird.

Pistol is op, and I'd prefer the minigun alt fire if it were something like... It takes longer to speed up (and if it were held instead of toggle), but when it speeds up it's a lot faster. It would be a good "planning a massacre" weapon then.

>>1443080
They look fine when they come out, but the pistol and shotgun shell look about the same size on the ground, it seems like they shrink.

>>1443035
It's kinda like how (good) sprites look better than realistic polygons. It lets you use your imagination.

>most mods require doom 2 instead of regular doom
what does doom 2 have over doom 1? I thought the only thing was super shotgun

>>1443108
i tought Doom 1 had the SSG

>>1443110
doom 1 just has the regular shotgun not the super

>>1443108
It's the super shotgun.

And Dead Simple's exclusive script thing.

And the extra monsters to work with.

>>1443113
really?
i remember using the SSG

>>1443115
I know for a fact the SSG isn't in 1. sorry man.

>>1443114
I see. thanks

>>1443117
I honestly think the biggest impact Doom 2 has over 1 is the monsters.

All of Doom 1's monsters attack in a linear fashion.

Doom 2 brings up Revenants, Mancubi and Archviles.
These things alone change up many encounters big time due to their attack methods and can't just simply be sidestepped mindlessly.

And then we also have Chaingunners and Arachnotrons for constant monster harrassment.

What is this general's general opinion on brutal doom.

>>1443120
It's okay but the guy behind it is a twat.

>>1443120
its alright,it has flaws but its alright
same applies for every doom mod

>>1443120
Okay mod, mod author is an asshat and neglectful of crediting the people who created the resources in BD.

If you enjoy it, play with it. If you don't, don't.

Don't play with it (or any other mod aside from stuff like maybe the sprite fixing project, which isn't really a mod) on your first playthrough of Doom.

>>1443123
Yeah. The monster variety is my favorite part.

The super shotgun is op, and I usually leave it out of my maps...

>>1443114
This. The only thing Doom 1 has over Doom 2 is a few extra techbase textures, which you can simply add in.

There is literally no reason to use Doom 1 unless you've absolutely decided that you don't want to use:
-Super Shotgun
-Megasphere
-Revenants
-Chaingunners
-Mancubus
-Pain Elementals
-Arachnotrons
-Hell Knights
-Icon of Sin

>>1443127
Don't do that. Some people's weapon mods replace it with something more balanced, and by the overwhelming amount of fucktards who play through shit like Scythe with Russian Overkill, people obviously do that.

>If I catch you stealing code, I'll make your life a living hell. by that, I mean I'll be bringing the offending wad to the attention of the public, and I'll be DAMN sure to make clear as day what was stolen, where from, and who did it. You do not want to be put on the spotlight like that, believe me.

>Don't be a lazy bastard. Write your own code/script instead of just yanking whatever the fuck you want from the code I've spent countless hours, days, and weeks on. DECORATE isn't that hard folks. Feel free to learn from the code, just to get a better understanding of it, but, for the love of god, don't just steal it for your own mods. (At the very least, contact me first!)

>i want to keep this Mod's status as being unique, and it doesn't help it when everyone and their grandmother's fuckin shitty HQ wads have my stuff poorly shoehorned in by lazy inconsiterate bastards. Ruins the novelty and experience, in my honest opinion.

ow that edge

>>1443130
Well I can't cater to every mod... I can only assume people will play it vanilla. Balancing a level is a tricky thing as is.

>>1443135
>countless hours, days, and weeks
>DECORATE isn't that hard folks

Well shit, he's making it sound like it's a huge pain in the ass.

But I agree with his sentiment anyway... What is this from anyway? Brutl?

>>1443141
Nope some sonic fag 'HQ' mod.

he has a grenade that farts. Gonna rip that shit and put it in my wad.

>>1443141
i agree too but the way its worded is funny.

>>1443120
It's meh, though I think it gets too much praise for its actual quality.

Then there's the background fluff, but disregarding that and standing on its own, it's a general "enhancement" mod that just doesn't look very good and adds things I never really asked for in Doom.

It's just not for me, I guess. I really don't like people who go "but its how doom wuz ment 2 b", though.

>>1443120
great intro for modern plebs
i think 0.15 was okay but after 0.19 it felt pretty bad. the BFG is weak as fuck. I dont like that.

I wizzed thru the level with the AR, ( i liked the AR). Fatality was a nice gimmick but forgettable.

I think /vr/ doom has a better version.

>>1443126
>sprite fixing project
oh?

>>1443126
i played it first play through D1 and D2 in one sitting. First time beating the game without taking a break.

>>1443157
forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36713

>>1443160
Shame on you. BAD.

Nah really it's whatever. At least you played it vanilla before using a mod.

>>1443162
oh...right vanilla.

Nah i did i play through most of it, though i did use cheats but i did beat D2 without cheats. I pretty sure i beat D1 without cheats except thy flesh consumed.

is openGL supposed to be blurry and dark as fuck or is something in my settings wrong?

not particularly flashy but the rocket lance packs a wallop

>>1443181
>heretic in doom
that's pretty metal

>>1443162
>can't even notice the difference in most the pictures
ehhh guess it's not for me

>>1443181
Might need to make the back look more like a rocket flame or something.

It looks more like you're throwing a blue ball.

www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1zctlt/my_idea_on_how_doom_4_could_succeed_in_the_modern/


what is your guys' opinion on this

>inb4 >reddit

>>1443165
Thy Flesh Consumed is a dick on UV anyway. I don't blame you, but for a challenge, try to beat it on UV with no cheats.

>>1443179
Try going into the GL Options and messing with settings like Sector Lighting Mode and Texture Filtering mode. They should be under Options > Display Options.

>>1443185

My friend got lazy. I wanted actual flames and shit rocketing but I'm not gonna get it from him.

>>1443191
Take some crazy fire muzzle flash and use it on the lance ass.

>>1443182

Heretic? I'm using Baratus' sprites yeah but... Where the heck have you been anon?

>>1443194
I've honestly been gone for about a year.

>>1443186
>My idea
>Remake Doom

Well that's exactly as intelligent as I expected something from reddit to be.

Please fuck off back to reddit, or at least never post garbage from there again.

>>1443193

I can't think of any muzzle flash sprites.

>>1443195

Oh, well hi. I've been busy.

>>1443184
What? its like less than a megabyte, just throw it in your skins folder.

And it's totally noticeable in the chaingun and agitation animations.

>>1443195
It's GMOTA. Makes doom rules similar to an old arcade game beatem up. Action wise anyway.

It's fun. Soon to have monsters apparently.

>>1443181
Can't see that it's a lance really. any chance or a single frame of the lance in his hand?

>>1443186
>do what SF4 did for fighting games
I'm okay with this

>>1443187
I fucked around a bit with it and it kinda looks like how it's supposed to. I hate softening edges for pixels. thanks man

>>1443196
Have you seen any rockets with a cool fire trail?

Maybe just have a bunch of blue lines alternating around the back of the sprite as it flies to look like a laser lance?

>>1443205
>any chance or a single frame of the lance in his hand?

None. I cannot sprite. and I have no one to make HUD sprites for me, yet. Doubtful I'll find one anytime soon, it looks more like a lance at other angles I assure you

>>1443207
>>1443196
Or maybe take the bullet puff sprite and turn it blue and have the rocket lances leave a trail of those as it goes through the air.

>>1443207

Haven't seen any rockets, no, and I want it to be a rocket lance. If I'm gonna rip off GnG. I'm gonna do it right.

>>1443205
>>1443196
ohhhh shit sounds exciting man.

>>1443209
Also to add that would really match how it looked in SG&G with the rocket trail

>>1443135
>Feel free to learn from the code, just to get a better understanding of it, but, for the love of god, don't just steal it for your own mods.

Anything but "feel free to use it, please give credit" "please don't use this until this is released" is shit-tier.

>MY CODE DO NOT STEAL in an open source sourceport mod for a 20 year old game

how does one into level design? how do I figure out what shape/size to make the level, where to put items, and where to put enemies and how many

>>1443195
You and me both pal.
Maybe I'll get back on the saddle this week..

>>1443242

Practice.
No, really, that's pretty much the only way.

>>1443208
Well. Maybe tomorrow.
>>1443250
Where've you been?

>>1443256
I wish I had some kick ass excuse like "doing important things," but honestly I've been completely fucking around playing games and farting around with emulators. I always come back to doom though..and part of me wants to see if I can get this Office Doom idea off the ground.

>>1443256

Also fair warning, whoever you are, if you take up the task of making a throwing hud sprite, you'd have to do it for the other 5 projectile subweapons too.

Really I'm not that concerned. I'm more focused on getting HUD sprites for my second playable character done more than anything else, I'm working on making the rocket lance more... rockety. Right now.

>>1443228
pretty much this.
What do you ecpect for a recolor sonic fag with a tribal tattoo and gay porn in his mod.

Gonna give him credit but im too lazy to seek him out, seems dead site since this is old as fuck.

Pretty sure most of his shit was copy and pasted since i seem it all before.

>>1443265
I remember someone made a pic of female imp being chased by doom guy in doom 3 alpha lab she was preggo.

I think artist deleted his shit. shame it was a good pic

>>1442158
>that useless banter
i died

>>1443120
I hate it. I don't hate people that enjoy it, I'm not above that. I just hate the mod itself. I also hate that I cant search doom videos on youtube without brutal doom being every other result

>>1442158
what i dont get anyhing

I'm trying to think of other things to make the wand more appealing to people, I don't want to nerf the damage of the sword because that would be gay. So I've been very steadily toning the range down of a lot of the sword attacks and subweapons, the lance will stay long range, but the dagger is going to get a slight range nerf.

The hatchet I'll leave alone as well because it arcs and that's fun

>>1443335
Change the wand to an arm cannon.

Or something involving the gauntlet instead.

The staff itself seems a little out of place on it's own since you're this GIANT of a man holding a dinky stick.

You could probably even use Heretic's gauntlets with the lightning and edit that out so you're doing shit with your hands instead.

>>1443343

Honestly I was thinking of having a wrist mounted shooter, but the problem is I have that slick as fuck transformation for the staff, so I'd need a new transformation to replace the staff too.

I might look into someone making me a wrist shooter that transforms into a ye-olde megabuster or something, that would be pretty tits.

>>1442191
>Haha, yeah she is. Not that it's important or anything, because it really isn't, but it's just a neat character tidbit.
>ada wong
>lesbian
don't think so

>>1443346
Solution: Third character with rad as fuck magic that uses that staff

>>1443350

I like the transformation mechanic, plus being able to heal from shooting enemies with the staff is a big deal, and part of the core element of GMOTA. At least while playing as Blaz.

>Hell Revealed II
>Playground map

>>1443350

I tell you what though anon. You've got me wanting to make a mage now. If I can get someone to make me a wrist-mounted gauntlet shooter that changes into a mega-buster thing, Blaz will use that, and I'll save the wand and staff for a mage fella that has no armor to speak of but some rad as fuck spells.

He'll come after Kuros though.

>>1443378
>You've got me wanting to make a mage now
Give mage huge ass book with some FULL CHEESE name that uses magical pages and can switch between various attacks.

>>1443265
Get on IRC nigga I need to talk to you about office doom

>>1443390

I like that actually. He'll carry a book and wand/staff, his melee attack can be him hitting shit with the book.

>>1443393
>his melee attack can be him hitting shit with the book
To use a sacred piece of knowledge as a blunt weapon? You are out of your mind! Perhaps a fancy dagger, controlled by telekinesis would be better, don't you think? It also gives +10 to cheesy awesomeness.

>>1443398

I suppose, plus a dagger controlled by mind bullets would further drive home the fact this guy can't into melee combat worth a fuck.

>>1443398

It worked for the summoner in Tales of Phantasia, why not here?

>>1443135
the sentiment makes sense but something about it seems weird

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33995

>There's Something About Tails

I want it

Emanuel laying down truth on the Brutal Doom page.

>>1443135
no.
All code belongs to everybody. You are but a man standing on giant's shoulders.

>>1443479
ragnarok didn't happen bro

>>1443469
What is it with furries and doom?

>>1443487
I think it's more because of a cross-section between Doom fans and nerds / gamers.

A lot of nerds / gamers are furries and Doom fans are a portion of nerds / gamers.

Probably nothing about Doom specifically draws in furries.

>>1443475
>average doom fan

>>1442878
GOD

>>1442878
FUCKING

>>1442878
DAMN

>>1443075
Pistol can manage 1 shot per 4 tics, 5 damage, 44.6 DPS

Chaingun can manage 1 shot per 4 tics, 6 damage, 53.6 DPS

Probably should be a little more different but the damage definitely stacks up and not having to click is nice.

Shells do look tiny though.

>No Michael Westen mod

Jeffrey Donovan playing Michael Westen in Season 1 of Burn Notice holding a SIG-Sauer P228

>>1443587
http://css.gamebanana.com/skins/115949
Oh man these models look nice, I could probably get enough material from the screenshots alone.

Might even keep the hands and gloves and find more weapons with the black gloves.

How does one git gud on nightmare difficulty?

>>1443645
Memory and adrenaline

Don't stop and kill everything--Run.

>>1443184
Yes it is. When a Revenant or Archie attacks, you'll see it.

>>1443242
Study other levels. Rip things off. Little things--individual room designs, encounters, outdoor areas.

I have a talent for expanding out rooms with ideas--it's getting the rooms down in the first place that's always a problem.

Don't make square rooms. Maybe make them square when you first build them, and leave a few in for variety, but large or important rooms should have weird, unique shapes.

Use nukage a little more than you think you should. Every techbase should have a little nukage. Barrels too.

Don't just throw monsters at the player and call it challenge. Evaluate what weapons the player will have at this point, and what difficulty monsters you should throw at him and expect him to survive. If you just gave him a rocket launcher, Hellknights or Revenants are a great opponent.

>>1442878
Something interesting I noticed while playing: There's a subtle cooling effect at the end of the plasgun when you stop firing.

Also, secfire on the pistol is a 3 round burst. The chaingun feels underpowered in comparison.

>>1443735
Pistol altfire is 41.2 DPS, less than the normal fire. I think it's just there to quickly kill zombie men and is less effective and a waste of ammo against anything else.

>>1443572
The shells look kinda ridiculous took I prefer the ones from beautiful doom.

>>1443765
Too, I mean. Typing on ipad is a bitch.

>>1442186
I know a guy muhreen married to lesbo, they great friends but its an open marriage as in, they go to les bars she picks up skank or any girl interested and both go town on said skank.

got jelly.

>that feel

>>1442878
>that blood spatter from rocket kills
My cock shouldn't be this hard from a doom mod

>>1443878
hnnnnngg

Animation test using what I got from the skin's screenshots. I'll need to make some more sprites for the clip actually entering the pistol and then clean up what I've got but so far it looks like it can be animated without making entirely new frames.

I've been into a lot of deathmatch lately and I'm wanting to improve even more anybody have any advanced tips? or does anyone want to duel for practise? I can only win so many deathmatches against noobs before I stop improving. I practise against the aimbot in duels beaten it like 3 times working on my consistency though. I'm dopehead on zandro if anyone wants to hit me up on IRC ill be on later. if anyone is looking to improve themselves ill be glad to practise with you.

>>1442878
Is anybody going to put this up on Best Ever

>>1443935
Are you making a whole weapon set like this?

>>1443954
haha i deathmatched you last night. my name was buzz mccool

>>1443974
I'd like to but not having Counter Strike: Source is going to be a problem.

I could probably pirate it and the mods would still work though.

Office Doom [if its happening] should be just a reskin pack of monsters,just play it with Going down and done,you have office doom

>>1443975
let's play some more tonight you're pretty good. ill be on greenwar 2 or something when I'm off work if I'm not doing shit with my clan.

so is there a reason to ever play a video game that's not doom

>>1444031
For me there is only two games I can always enjoy, Doom and Unreal Tournament.

And both for the same reason: Mods.

>>1444031
Variety. I love doom but I crave something different every now and again. I've been playing a fuck ton of Earth Defense Force 2025 lately, along with the original Thief, and a bit of Assassins Creed IV here and there. However, Doom is that one game I can always enjoy whenever I play it, thanks to the numerous maps and mods.

>>1444035
yo unless you're working on a /doom/ mod don't trip

>>1444031
>Want to play Vanquish for years
>Catch it recently
>ARS is sexy as fuck
>All those limitations
>Slow paced gameplay unless I'm rolling around nonstop like a ninny
>Still have to pause constantly because rolling isn't infallible
>Go back to Project MSX to have a suit that doesn't suck dick

Welp.

>>1444023
i don't have work or school tonight so i can deathmatch you, sure

>>1444035
i think there are lots of games that i'd still be playing on a regular basis if they had the modding community that doom had. imagine if goldeneye was made for the pc, and had online multiplayer, mods and all that jazz. i'd play it everyday.

>>1444071
Have you checked out GoldenEye: Source?

>>1444035
>>1444067

Especially not from someone who got legitimately angry when someone called the Touhou characters "anime girls".

<Donald> heh,. will never be unbanned from bestever again
<Donald> feels bad man
<R17Quake> I just want a randomizer with the enemies from the heroes' respective games
<R17Quake> and Freeman and the other dudes
<Donald> no, sorry they wont be released. I lost motivation and dont have enough free time
<a1337spy> wait did you actually stop working on freeman?
<Donald> yea
<a1337spy> i expected you to just say "fuck this shit" and stop working on it
<Donald> No, I usually release malicious mods that ruin your configuration or something else instead of "just dropping it"

all those looking forward to the addons can officially pass on now

>>1444108
hope he at least releases what's done so someone else can finish it

>>1443979
I did most of the animation for Diaz's P50 pistol using just a single screenshot! Since you have more to work with I doubt you REALLY need it, but it'd always be nice to have more material. Nice rip though!

I made a sky for my levelset.

>>1444118
Reminds me of STALKER in the early morning but with more red.

I like it.

>>1444031
No cute lolis on doom.

Yet

>>1444120

>"Blowout soon, doomguy"
When?
>"NOW"
>Walls drop, revealing hordes of hell

>>1444125
I wouldn't mind playing as one in Doom, but shooting at them is a no-no.
Even if I would like to see loli demons, wouldn't shoot them.

>>1444128
>Hordes of hell walk into an anomaly
>All of them get sucked into the air and torn apart
>Doomguy eats some bread

I wouldn't mind it.

>>1444085
i like it but no one plays it last time i checked

maybe we should organize a game on /vr/

>>1443120
Improved Doom's gameplay in every aspect.

And the gore feels so good.

>>1444146
guaranteed replies.png

>>1444146
this is a reply.jpg

>>1444071
yo instead of greenwar or regular old DM, you wanna play some goldeneye doom? I'm fine with whatever

>>1444108
>DKG hypes up project
>doesn't release it

imagine my surprise

>>1442345
>Blood

Oh yes I remember listening to Megadeth and playing Blood all day long. Me and my friend used to hook up computers with a null modem cable and play Blood/Shadow Warrior together. Good ol' times.

>>1444168
Hey, go fuck yourself. Do you expect me to put in months of work just to get banned from the server? Fuck you.

If I ever get unbanned I'll continue working on it but until then no one gets it.

>>1444168
>hypes up

I've been on IRC all day erryday and quite frankly that would've been the last thing he would've done. He wasn't very happy dealing with the shitfest that the HL model viewers were, I don't blame him.

I feel that Gordon Freeman was the one thing that killed Donald's addons. Let's give him time to cool down and solve the BE thing

>>1444173
why did you get banned for already?
you know, maybe you can try to talk about it with a mod instead of acting like a bitch

>>1444118
Looks pretty good in-game too.

>>1444175
what happened with best ever? how do you even get banned with them? I just wanna know because I dont want to do anything risky that could result in a ban

>>1444191
BE's general rules:

1: Don't be a dick.
2: Don't upload shit that fucks people's computers (DKG did this)
3: Don't modify other people's shit, say you made it, then upload it.
4: Don't host a public server with cheats/bots since that fucks the server CPU.

>>1444193
5. If a WAD or PK3 massively drains CPU or RAM, expect it to be killed and blacklisted.

>>1444202

Heh, Tricks and Traps throwback?

>>1444193
>1: Don't be a dick.

FUCK

>>1444204
Yes.

>>1444193
i thought you just couldnt use bots to get to the top of the player list UDM, greenwar, greenwar 2 all have bots on them

Two strong mapsets have been released recently, which of course are worth of being checked out

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/57843-nova-the-birth-released/
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/62339-doom-2-in-name-only-beta-v-released/

The first one being a megawad compilation of maps made by newcomers, and the second one being an hypothetical release of Doom 2 as if it had never actually existed at all, and only map names were leaked to the public.

>>1444223

>>1444118
I'm going to steal that sky.

So what are your guy's pet peeves in Doom mods?

Mine is weapon sounds that are too quiet, especially by comparison to other weapons next to it.

Been playing Golden Souls and I like it a lot, but that AK47 is so fucking quiet compared to all the other weapons around it.
Same for the revolver.

>>1444336
bare handed players

>>1444317
you can't take the sky from me

>>1442264
Quake 1 and its expansions

>>1443979
theres a content pack hanging around there that has just the materials and shit but not the maps

>>1444203
>circus2.wad

>>1444336
Animations that are exclusively Rotsprite, those shotgun shell and casing bounce sounds from the early 90s with the terrible aliasing http://vocaroo.com/i/s16JoRGbKkFJ , low-poly model rips, visual effects that make it hard to focus because the FOV keeps jiggling or the screen is shaking out of control like the older chainsaw effect in BD:SE, sounds that aren't synced to an animation, weapon sounds that cut each-other off, weapon sounds that get drowned out by a few monsters, >30MB wads / pk3s full of MP3s / entire texture packs.

Things that you wouldn't notice in-game: Duplicated sprite lumps instead of using Offset or Textures.

>>1444336
not enough big mouthed floating thingies

>>1444386
What animations use only rotsprite?

I haven't seen any so I don't know what it would look like.

I finished the fourth map to my levelset. Why not play all three now maybe?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwqxfdgd191az6b/FourMaps.wad

Third one still needs some work but hey.

>>1444456
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45334

It's his first mod though.

>>1444350
This wasn't me, the guy who made the sky, who doesn't give a fuck. In fact, if you use it, cool; just credit Onslaught Six.

>>1444458
I can see why someone wouldn't like it.

I have more of an issue with an automatic double barrel shotgun that doesn't have to be reloaded though.

>>1444118

Its good but its 256 wide, which means it will loop 4 times. You'll have the effect of 4 suns in the horizon.

There is a way to make 1024 skies that only loop once! This is the future!

Also: is vanilla compatible

>>1442264
System Shock. (Hell, anything by Looking Glass.)

Wolfenstein 3d. (Well...)

Outside. (Careful - it has one hell of a long startup time, and roguelike-worthy levels of difficulty. And no saving.)

Strife.

>>1444493
Wait, 1024 skies are vanilla compatible? Well shit.

And who says they're regular suns? Maybe they're demonic suns, and you're in Hell.

>>1444281

That AV is freaky. Looks cool enough. Link?

>>1444496

Yeah, just looks better with one sun instead of 4 symmetrical ones.

You load up 4 256 sky textures, that together form a 1024 sky. The end of sky 4 loops with the start of sky 1, you get the idea.

Then in slade3 you create a patch, load the sky textures, and put them together and save the patch as P_SKY#

>>1444501
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/riii.zip

>>1444262

Have you played both?

does anyone have zip download for Russian Overkill?

>>1444518

I played NOVA when it was still in alpha and some levels weren't that much detailed or balanced out. There was this nasty map entry in the middle of the wad which broke the pace completely but in the final release it got moved out to a more decent place (MAP24). It's worth the try, honestly; custom music, different skies, you name it.

Now, Doom 2 In Name Only is an interesting project. You often see those silly threads in /v/ where they criticize a game for not being extremely literate (i.e. "you don't craft stars in Starcraft" and shit like that). Since the purpose of the project is to create maps based on the name of the original Doom 2 maps, then you will be *really* playing in Catacombs, or Waste Tunnels, for example.

It is still being worked on (it's in Beta status) but man, some of the entries are really good. The secret maps are really something you might want to "idclev" to check 'em out, I won't spoil why.

>>1444528

Ok.

Will prob give D2INO a try soon!

>>1444525
Try dragging the 7z onto GZDoom

It has 7z support (PK7 is 7z) but I'm not sure if it'll load a PK3 / WAD inside of a 7z

>>1444562
It didn't work for me.

>>1444582
Is there a reason you can't download 7zip?

>>1444590
Not sure

Do you guys have any recommendations on wads and if so can you leave a download link?

>>1444624
Plenty more than we can manually list by hand, man. Check the FAQ pastebin in the OP and definitely check out what's listed in the annual Cacowards Best Wads lists.

Check out the Zdoom forums too, for what's up-and-coming.

if there are ANY servers up with 5+ players that are normal style deathmatch please let me know. every time i check i see this survival and megaman shit everywhere with tons of players but no fucking DM. Even goldeneye dm is cool just something other than megaman jesus.

>>1444624
anon, are you asking to have wads shot all over you?

>>1444647
Just filter megagame.wad. Dumbseeker and IDE let you do it. Dig in the options a bit.

I'm down to play whatever, just hit up IRC and ask some nerds to play.

>>1444624
Project MSX (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=25836)) (support patches for non-doom iwads: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=40363))
Hideous Destructor (disclaimer: may require players to git gud)(http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12973))
Psychic (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=21681)) (also works in Heretic, Hexen, and Strife)
Zharkov Goes To The Store (http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=15194))
Russian Overkill (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29915))
Crossfire (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36667))
DoomRL Arsenal (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044))
Mutiny (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37312))
Accessories to Murder (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36877))
Error: Doom (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31034))
Pokemon Doom: Titanium (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27649))
Shooting Monsters with Guns (http://www.mediafire.com/?7qqawolqz3w71wt)) (also works in Heretic and Chex Quest, just choose the right class for the IWAD)
Make it Snappy (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35357))
NecroDoom (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31741)) (also works in Heretic, Hexen, and Strife)

>>1444624
Satanic Redux (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30206))
Nazis! (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29815))
Terrorists! (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33330))
Burl Tumd (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35458))
FKER (http://www.mediafire.com/?4kcjk1cc1qw0539))
Cyberrunner (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36608))
Agent Diaz (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=27102))
Extreme Weapon Pack (http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17351))
The Veteran (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36036))
The Space Pirate (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37064))
Get Medieval on Their Asses (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45115))
Metroid: Dreadnought (http://static.best-ever.org/wads/te13-metroiddreadnought-alpha1.666c.pk3))
The Gunfighter (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=38579)) (also works in Heretic)

>>1444654
>>1444658

Don't forget the wonderful Pirate Doom

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32674

Does BDSE work in multiplayer?

Can anyone recommend some weapon wads that go well with vanilla doom2? I love a lot of them but the weapons are too overpowered to play with. Looking for something that keeps the difficulty the same or harder while retaining the classic feel.

>>1444760
extreme weapon pack?

>>1444760
extreme weapon pack

http://www.mediafire.com/download/s3125nh5xi51hw9/EWP.rar

>>1444760
Extreme Weapon Pack is good.

>>1444760
nearly done with an ewp run, pretty intense

>>1444760
Eriguns and Mutiny?

>>1442878
HOW IS THIS REAL

>>1444654
>>1444658
>>1444673
aw shit. I'm downloading all of these

/doom/! What is your opinion on magazine-based reloads versus bullet-based reloads? If you aren't aware, mag reloads basically discard your magazine for a new one. The downside of this is that you potentially waste ammo if you reload too soon. Bullet-based is probably what you're familiar with, your ammo is in a "pool" and reloading just means you fill your mag up without discarding any bullets currently in the mag. This is pretty unrealistic but it's what I personally feel people have come to expect.

For an actual example of this, you can check out Diaz or Accessories to Murder for mag-based and my own The Space Pirate for bullet-based. I'm eager to hear your thoughts!

>>1443120
I like it, but I like Sperglord's Edition way, way more.

>>1444834
I like it, it's something different and changes game play. Plus I'm pretty sure I get more ammo than other mods in AtM if I don't reload constantly.

>>1444836
what's sperglord's edition?

>>1442878
With some tweaking this can be really fantastic.

As it is, I'm not a huge fan of the shell sprites (The beautiful doom ones look much nicer), though I suppose if I feel like it I could replace them myself. I also don't like that the shells appear to shrink or something.

And while the fire as fast as you can click for the pistol feels badass, it kinda makes the chaingun nigh useless.

>>1444839
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37889

>>1444839
It's a modification of Brutal Doom, it makes lots of good changes to it, and makes it a much more enjoyable experience.