/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-If you feel like trying a new mod, give GMOTA a chance! Go check it here! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401#p742401

-The past Awesome Games Done Quick featured a playthrough of Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and also a Doom 2 race which was a result of a bid war between that game and Ultimate Doom. To rewatch the Doom speedruns, go follow this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1

-Guess who received an update? OBLIGE! Now it's in version number 6, and oh man things surely have improved; go check it here! http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=307.0

-CACOWARDS? SURE, HERE! http://www.doomworld.com/20years.. Feel absolutely free to share your thoughts about the works chosen for this edition. And, well, they surely left a lot of stuff to discuss related to the decisions made on some wads...

-From the creators of Russian Overkill, here is to you The Guncaster! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37066 Give it a try if you want.

-ChocoDoom got updated in the 20th anniversary. Now you can play Heretic, Hexen and Strife too! Go grab each version of them here! http://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

-Jimmy's Jukebox may be get a new update very soon...get hype!!! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29117&start=180

The /newstuff Chronicles #443

http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4016

Features a review of Zone 300, which, if my memory serves me right, wasn't a Cacoward winner but it had enough merits to at least be mentioned in the runner-ups. So for those who STILL haven't checked that wad yet, go give it a try

>>1424828
I actually edited a Browning Auto-5 for Wildweasel's 'Nazis!' add-on a long time ago, though it's a centered one. It's also probably pretty dated compared to newer stuff I've done.

As we speak, we cannot deny or confirm the rumors about Demonicron's Spiderdemon to be loosely based on this picture

New thread already? Shit, that was quick.

>>1425023
I'm not a smart man
In fact If I owned a museum I would get lost inside of it.
This should be how to run samsara right?
I kinda have a problem as every monster looks like another but when they're struck they change kindo yet another in the first map (Mancubus become imps when struck) is that normal or what?

COVER ME I'M RELOADING

If you're not busy, come see why Strife is not built for deathmatch or multiplayer in general.
Server: :: [BE] New York :: /vr/: Strife DM: An Exercise In Futility
Password: thestrifening

>>1425670
arguably better than doom's dm

>>1425670
Not found, is it over already?

>>1425789
Yep, it's over.
The results were not... spectacular to say at least.
Poison bolts and phosphorus grenades ruled all.

>>1425794
Fair enough, I lost my mouse anyway.

>:: [BE] New York :: Real Guns Advanced RGAWW2
>thatsoundsfun
>jump in
>weapon is changing every other respawn
>every weapon is shit except the SMG that you get on your respective team
>EXP SYSTEM that you have to be alive during the match to use
It could of been something.

>>1425808
>It could of been something.
Excuse me. What does it mean?

The secrets to replicating human thought lies in Quantum Computers

I am certain that our minds utilize quantum mechanics to function

ZCajun will be updated or replaced in 2021

>>1425824
It felt like someone just cobbled together an old version of RGA or some spin off and added a bunch of slow pace shit that didn't fit the speed that Doom plays like smoke grenades. The maps they had half of the time were large spacious areas where smokes wouldn't help at all.

>>1425394
Post it.

>>1425837
You don't want it.

http://doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=combos/ww-nazis.zip

Sprites/Shotgun

Alright /doom/, I want to know what's the general opinion on DOOM 3.

>>1425852
it'd be better if you could actually see the damn thing

doesn't feel like a doom game, it's 2spooky corridor shooter

flashlight: the game

weak weapon sounds

neat demon demons

>>1425852
inferior to the originals but pretty fun in its own right

darkness completely overblown

Goddamit Mouldy you bastard. I swear on this muhfugga, if this is what we're going to see in Going Down in a near future...

>>1425847
Oh, that one? I thought it was pretty good for what it was.

>>1425852
Not as good as the first games, but I honestly think it's pretty fun, and the aesthetic is honestly somewhat appealing to me on one level or another.

Plus, dat Chainsaw, it's probably one of the most satisfying weapons in an FPS (like the Mauser Karabiner in Wolfenstein 09).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9AxpBPO3z4

>>1425596

What's the zan.wad?
And why do you have two at once?

>>1425852

Doom 3 is a fun game, but it's a terrible Doom game.

>>1425852

You could kill everything with the shotgun

Poor enemy design

Gray is everything and everything is gray

Dr. Betruger is an completely undeveloped antagonist

>>1425981
>You could kill everything with the shotgun

Where do you think you are?

>>1426010

I mean it seemed unbalanced to me.

I homestly feel safer carrying a shotgun around rather than a BFG

Also the SMGs firing sound is too weak.

Confession: I bought the collector's edition of Doom 3 on the ECKBAWKS HUEG.

I bought it for the Doom 1/2 splitscreen.

>>1425930

I found the most satisfying weapon in wolfenstein 09 to be the sledgehammer

>>1426073
I loved the Sledgehammer and Fire axe too, but the game wouldn't let you carry it with you, so in absence of that, I'd use the bayonet.

I made sure to take every opportunity to use the axe and sledgehammer. I think I played most of the hospital level with the axe, cut off the head of the veil assassin in slow-mo as soon as he revealed himself.

Does anyone have the news helping pic? Not the "SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM" one.

Anyone have an article on Doom 3's sound design?

I want to confirm that the machine gun was a playing card on a bike wheel

>>1426189
>2014
>watches Zero Punctuation

>>1426208
What

>>1426042
You should play it on medium difficulty, and give yourself the chainsaw from the start, with the console, see if you can plow through it (you probably could).

The chainsaw was the most fun weapon in the game, because not only did it sound, look, and feel powerful, it WAS powerful, I found myself looking for any excuse to use the chainsaw (ergo, 60-70% of the time when I had it).

>>1426052
So did i anon. For the same reason. also bought my brother a copy for doom 3 co-op. it wasnt as scary when one person gets designated as "dedicated flashlight holder." so the other guy can actually shoot shit.

>>1425394
>>1425847
>>1425394

Ah well i still collecting resources, I promised an Auto 5, I want a center AND angled

>>1426263
>promised
why

>>1424548
>And I wonder what it felt like to be some guy who put out a WAD for free, only to find some douche trying to use it to make money.


you talking about Doom 3 wad and that long time video game scammer? Whats his name? i forgot.

>>1425852
I thought it was a good game, just not a good Doom game. They did a good job of nailing atmosphere for the most part.

>>1426271
cuz it was featured source material. I thought someone made one by now. Eh I guess just mash up serveral shotty /sprites to look like one.

>>1426274
No, they were talking about mid-90s shovelware Doom wad compilations.

Incidentally id themselves were recommending that if you were going to sell disks with Doom shareware on them, you should charge about $9. That's for your own profit, not for them.

>>1426278
never promise things that aren't in abundance

never promise in general

>>1426175
pls respond

>>1426313
ya just go down to the doom subreddit and ask em for it

>>1426287
ah, god what was the name of the guy selling doomero21's mod

>>1426305
it should be that hard to make one.

>>1426330
exactly why you shouldn't promise it

>>1426342
i meant it shouldnt be that harrd*

all it is a shotty with a hump. Use that Lever action as a base

>tfw the new doom is probably going to be shit

>>1426413
>Probably
You're a real optimist.

>>1426413
>that feel

So I'm having issues running Doom full screen. Sometimes when I launch it, all I get is an black screen with an image of ZDL imposed in the center. I can hear audio from the game, and hitting keys does stuff in the menu, but I can't actually see any of it.

>>1426424
Try alt+tabbing? Could be a case of the game is running in full screen but something happened where focus was lost before it fully started. It's happened to me a rare few times.

>>1425381

What happened to Samsara?

The last thing I knew was the cl_bloodyhell video

>>1426432
Ah okay, I'll give that a go, thanks.

>>1425852

A dark version of Half Life 2 with demons in Mars and no car-sections

Plasma Gun best weapon

>>1426436
terminus gave up

>>1426454
RIP in piece

>>1426436
Mike12's still working on the cl_bloodyhell 3 deaths. Other than that, it's done.

>>1426464
B-but muh unreal

>>1426447
>Toy pew pew gun is the best weapon
Goodness gracious no.

>>1426464
Other than that, it's on hold*

Samus confirmed for TSP

so, accessories to voxels looks pretty awesome
( >>1423389 )
but i feel like something is still missing...

>>1426490
general gun waste.
limitations or "nah, nobody will notice" ?

>>1426490
Those are awesome! I'd love to get some voxel action going on in TSP someday once all the weapons are in.

>>1426490
Voxel weaponry?
A better melee weapon?

>>1425808
>weapon is changing every other respawn

Pick an actual class instead of joining as "random"

>>1426504
ah, silly me, i forgot the image

>>1426490
it also needs a compatibility pack with the hellspawn voxel pack
(is it even possible?)

>>1426505
voxels are awesome

>>1426464
>>1426454
>>1426436

<Medicris> uh yo
<TerminusEst13> sup
<Medicris> people are getting the impression that you're fully done with samsara instead of just having it on hiatus until metroid's got a release
<Medicris> is this actually true or
<TerminusEst13> Naw, it's nearing its end, but it's not done yet.
<TerminusEst13> I'm just waiting on Mike to finish up bloodyhell 3 and for Metroid to get a decent alpha release.
<TerminusEst13> Then it's back to Sammy Sarah.

>>1426518
Looks pretty amazing.

Some voxel models need resizing but so far pretty good.

>>1426529
I hope he's okay with people modifying samsara after he's done with it, but by the looks of the FAQ that isn't the case.

>>1426542
did you know
people can get banned from bestever for modifying someone's wad instead of making an addon

>>1426559
did they give a reason? is it for security

>>1426536
only the (starting) pistol needs it imo
the SSG, machinegun and rocket launcher are from another pack (that's why they look poorly sized)

>>1426542
>>1426563

It's not exactly just him. BE carries a strict "don't modify someone's shit" rule, and there was even discussion among staff about banning people from the master server who modify mods without author's permission.

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3555&pid=48583#pid48548

It's probably just general "don't steal shit"-ery.

>>1426563
It's a permissions and "don't be a dick" thing. Modifying someone's mod is okay... only if the modifier got explicit permission to do so, or if the license it's under says you're allowed to. In most cases, neither of those are true (no license means no permission), so for most cases, the modified mod in question will get banned. The person making the modification will get banned if it's a repeat offender, but generally it's just the modded mod itself that gets banned.

Goddamn, I can't play slaughtermaps with Brutal Doom or even Beautiful Doom because everything goes laggy every now and then.

>>1426559
>>1426563

Pretty sure this is also because all files uploaded to Best-Ever to be hosted with are stored in a single wad pool, and uploading modified wads without renaming them would end up with a lot of conflicts. Shit like making servers unjoinable since different people have different files under the same name.

>>1426620
I liked Paladin's fists and his sword the most.

>>1426490
Nice to see it getting some love
Holy shit that pistol. How do you drop it? There isn't map with pistol spawns and zombies drop ammo or revolvers
I've asked Hellspawn about using their voxels in my pack, waiting answer. Load order doesn't help much.Is there a decorate way to patch this?

>>1426505
I haven't seen your sprites, but unless they are mad complex, as soon as you say "I'm done with pickup sprites" I'll make it. /vr/ mods get top priority

>>1426504
was a bit of both together with "some things look better as sprites"
will experiment with it, though

>>1426626
is it possible to use different player models based on what weapon is being held? or is it going to be eternally the default weapon

>>1426692
wish they made a sprite rotation from all sides, might be a waste of time but items look consistent being sprites

>>1426707

There's mods out there that change player sprites dependent on weapons, brutal doom for example. Though I think that actually used an already pre-existing mod

>>1426692
>Holy shit that pistol. How do you drop it?
well...
you know you can bind a key to "drop weapon"

oh and the FKER pack is missing a voxel for the plasmapistol, submachinegun and unmaker (even if that last one looks way harder to do)

>>1426710
ive heard brutal doom steals from other mods anyway so i wouldnt be surprised

so its possible ti change sprites but not in vanilla?

>>1426721
yeah, primarily because any alteration makes it not vanilla

>>1426708
>mfw even thinking about unmaker
didn't know how to drop the plasma pistol, and I don't know how to rip the smg out of it's lump

>>1426708
oh, and while we're at it, here's a small showcase of the FKER voxel pack.
my only complain is that the autoshotgun looks a bit too chunky, but hey, it's still amazing

>>1426731
i know, man, that thing is madness

I don't know about you guys but...

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/47721-tnt-2-devilution-major-polishing-map-slots-open/
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/67453-tnt-revilution-official-project-announcement/
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/67447-final-doom-the-way-id-did/

Don't you think that we have enough TNT/Plutonia wads made already? Like, how many tributes have been released now? Also, concerning FDTWiD, are you guys picturing this one winning anything at all? I'm not sure about the general consensus of D2TWID concerning other releases of the last year.

>>1426735
>voxels
>fully destructible environments in DooM
>voxel HUD
>voxel players
>voxel enemies
>voxel held weapons

>>1426754
>Don't you think that we have enough TNT/Plutonia wads made already?
No.

>>1426710
oh! i didn't even know it did that
is it supposed to works on the allied marines too?
(oh, and apparently the chainsaw swipe animation is missing from the 3rd person view in BDSE)

>>1426764
voxel HUD and held weapons would be a waste, as you always see them from the same POV.

but oh man, fully destructive environments in E2M8...
i think i came a little

>>1426783
>entire landscape flattened by the hoards of rockets
>sprinting over rubble, returning fire
>Cyberdemon wrecking shit
>Ace of Spades esque physics
>buildings collapse
>return fire
>last rocket in inventory, also last one to kill the demon
>fire
>the Cyberdemon literally crumbles into thousands of voxel blocks
>look down
?you're rock hard

>>1426765

Ok, but what about FDTWiD?

Which one do you guys think would be better for the mystic wine? For those of you who weren't there when I asked, I'm gonna add two more special healing items: Arcane chicken (big HP boost and arcane energy) and mystic wine (HP and mystic energy)

>>1426808
Looking forward to it, I loved TNT, and I love Plutonia style wads.

>>1426815
The one on the right, the triangular one.

>>1426815
Right one, imo.

>>1426815
neither?
i think something shaped like a modern wine bottle would be better

>>1426815
the left one
right reminds me of a science beaker

>>1426834

Funny you should mention that, my friend just did this.

>>1426839
much better imo.
maybe make the neck a few pixels longer, but i think that one fits best so far

>Grab Berserk
>Closet trap is triggered, pinkies come out
>Pinkies walk in an invisible line, they teleport to an unknow place
>Baron of Hell teleports back instead almost in front of you

>>1426512
thanks for suggesting, just made some of these and it's the most TECHNOLOGY voxels have got so far
the spin is perfect, and they don't have the clipping problems sprites have

TSP update when?

>>1426928
sweet.
plus i guess it's actually less work than sprites, as you only have to do one fairly simple model and no rotations, right?

>>1426942
TSP?

>>1426942
"Soon™"
"Valve Coporation, all rights reserved. Valve, the Valve logo, and Soon™ are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation."

>>1426815
I say left one. It looks more alcohol-y.

Does anyone know of a wad launcher for Mac?

>>1426942

We've been explaining it from time to time EVERY SINGLE DAMN THREAD and you don't seem to shut the fuck up; it'll be done when it'll be done. Marty has stated this before

Goodbye

>>1427001
I remember someone saying it was going to get an update around the 23rd.

>>1426997
dont know if this works, but its a start
https://code.google.com/p/gzdoom-macosx/

either that or
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gzdoom+mac

>>1427004
He asked for a wad launcher, not a source port mang.

>>1427005
how about this? Zdoom on Mac OSX
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19321

>>1427007
Once again, wad launcher.
Not source port.

Think ZDL, not ZDoom

>>1427008
shit, now i look like an autist for trying

>>1427010
Anon don't feel bad.
You only wanted to help and that's more than enough.

To the guy's original question, I don't think Mac has a wad launcher.

>>1427016
What a shame then. Thanks for the help anons.

>>1426721
Actually these sprites were exclusively made for Brutal Doom, by a former Zdoom user called Devastator, editing an old skin pack assembled by Ghastly.

Well, beat Paranoid. Definitely one of the most impressive total conversions I've played of Doom.

>>1427054

>>1427054
Is that Gargantua shooting bees?

>>1427062
Yes it is. He also shoots big balls of easily avoidable energy at you.

>>1427054

Quake 1 remade in eDuke32:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RWx2zHfVYU

>>1427050
>they were made by this person
>who made minor edits to a larger pack

well as long as ghastly is cre-

>Player sprites by Devastator, David G, Sergeant_Mark_IV

well anon it Actually looks like mark is still full of shit

>>1427069

All of Zykov Eddy's projects are remarkably good.

>>1427069
all of that time spent on near exactly creating something that already exists

instead of something new

why

>>1427092
To push the engine to new limits and potentially find out new things that expands on the modding capabilities as a whole.

It's like putting Doom on every single operating system.

>>1427096
did quake 1 push anything? i can't think of anything that would have pushed it.

>>1427103
Don't know if it did anything for Duke modding, but sometimes it can lead to cool things.

Something like Claustrophobia: Walls Close In did a lot for Doom modding by showing off what ACS could do and shit.

>>1427112
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/claust.zip

looks neat

>>1427119
I replay that mod every now and then.

Fun bosses.
Terrible story that can't be skipped at any point.

>>>/v/233008646

a funny pic

>>1427134
I'm kind of jealous.

I'd love to play Doom with my family.

>>1427134
That's awesome.

>>1427134
That's a neat picture. Shouldn't have read all the responses to it, though.

I wonder if every holiday is like that for them.

>>1427080
But he only assembled it. The sprites were originally by David G.

>>1426997
>>1427016
>>1427046
I suppose since you can get the source code for ZDL, you could try getting it to compile a Mac binary. No clue as to how hard or easy that'd be though.

http://csua.berkeley.edu/~chiry/doom/zdl/

>>1427134
That's really cool.
That thread is funny too.

>>1426783
Weapon voxels would be cool if the game had real lighting. Or you could just use a normal map instead. That'd work great.

>>1427134
Link dead, repost image?

What's TPS anyways?
>>1427320
It was a pic of Romero playing Doom II deathmatch with his 2 sons. Didn't save it though, sorry.

>>1427320

Of course, here

>>1427341
damn, how old are his kids?

they look in their mid 20s....that's like...........our age

>>1427343
>yfw Romero was fucking misses Romero while coding rape mechanics against imps

You think this will suffice as a spell container?

>>1427372

Yep.

>>1427372
>3d render cube
>3 colour mspaint-level ball
???

>>1427375

My friend who made this just offered to make it gold, I asked him if he can make it a shiny polished looking gold, should I go for it?

>>1427376

He got lazy. Let's see what I can get him to do.

>>1427337
TSP
The Space Pirate

>>1427379

I dunno, I kinda like it how it is, but that's just my opinion.

>>1427396

Well the muted metal colors don't stand out enough for my liking now that I think about it, I want this thing to be eyecatching

>>1427401
Then go for it.

Found some vids about Doom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyOF2RsO3ck

And Quake (and ot a certain extent Duke Nukem) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEcYylHhQvo

What do you guys think?

>>1427443
errant signals videos are shit I didnt even have to watch. His quake video I have seen and it was fucking stupid

>>1427443
Errant is a pretty OK guy. Videos are decent, but just explain the same shit that Masters of Doom talks about.

>>1427454
Please expand.

>>1427443
I personally find that talking about Quake "without mentioning the guns, multiplayer, level design or enemies" is just silly, even if he did somewhat touch on all of those thing slightly. I can agree with the atmosphere, it feels kind of depressing.
I like the Doom one though.

So I finally got around to playing Brutal Doom. I beat ultimate on harsh difficulty. I started Brutal Doom II on black metal and just beat suburbs last night.

The games are amazing but I have to ask; why is it that they get so much hate for? I still like vanilla doom I and II and playing Brutal doesn't change that. Why is it that some anons hate it for? I find them to be incredibly fun.

>>1427480
>why is it that they get so much hate for?

Have you considered reading the FAQ?

Let me ask you a question
how was your first experience with Russian Overkill?

>>1427485
Beautiful.

>>1427485

Hilarious.

>>1427485

Left me with a wide grin on my face.

>>1427481
I actually have a while back but forgot it was posted in the faq.

My mistake

>>1427485
Ah yes... My first time with Russian Overkill. I enjoyed the level design of Deus Vult II, but not the fact that it's a slaughterwad, so I slapped on Russian Overkill with Ketchup, made the experience absurdly fun, haven't really touched it since though, it only really seems to work for slaughter maps.

>>1427495
>>1427486
>>1427489
>>1427491
Well,this is the first time i touch that mod[despite i keep hearing about it,even in my years of doom] and i have to say
THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING EVER MADE
and i had all of your reactions combined,whoever who made this deserves infinite vodka

>>1427497
Yeah, it's really nice.
But as >>1427495 said, it's only really good on slaughtermaps on a high difficulty because you become so OP it's hilarious.

>>1427503
or play it with fractal doom monster version

>>1427497

The really odd thing is Russian Overkill is a glorious mish mash that's broken but really fun to play with, and yet Guncaster is... eh

>>1427529
I think the whole furry (scaly? I don't even know) thing contributes to that, at least it did for me.

>>1427542

that didn't bug me, the weapons feel really... meh to me, and the buy menu is clunky as all hell.

>>1427545
Yeah, that too. RO is more... fluid, I guess? And the weapons are way, way more interesting.

>>1427553

I really love how RO drops all pretenses, just says "fuck it" and goes apeshit with weapons.

Speaking of weapons. I've decided the power sword's utility function is gonna be one of two things,

A) Time stopper: Stops everything for 15 seconds, uses 100 arcane energy

B) call to arms: summons a sub weapon chest or a spell cube for 100 arcane energy.

Which would you guys prefer?

>>1427558
Time stopper.

>>1427558
stopping time would be boss

>>1427560
>>1427567

I might reduce the effect to 10 seconds because I'm starting to realize how absurdly powerful this could be.

Would you a John Romero?

Is that IGN video with Romero worth watching?

>>1427592
sort of, its better to listen to but not to watch. Interesting though

its Romero talking reminiscing his days of working at ID during 1992/3 and how much he hates modern games

I've enjoyed new fps but can't get into brutaldoom, it looks pretty but I don't like those features
Is anyone else in the same boat as me?

>>1427592
I thoroughly enjoyed it, I wish he could make another game called Doom 4
I also watched a old videos from id software which was a nice insight

>>1427631
What features you don't like? You can disable a lot with the addons. There's also Beautiful Doom.
Also you should totally check out project MSX.

When is zand 2.0 coming out? I'm trying to figure out if I should wait to release something with the new a_explode or just do it soon with a_poisonbagdamage

>>1427641
Just not a big fan of the reloading and stuff thanks for the recommendations though.

>>1427668
You can disable reloading with an addon.
By the way, use Brutal Doom: Sperglord Edition, it's better.

>>1426949
I do one voxel and use the rotate function 8 times

>>1427694
neat

added one last HUD element, the utility box, though I feel I should probably change the colors, I want it to be different from the subweapon and mana bar colors though

Out of curiosity I tried Bobby Prince in "tothebestof", and these were the results

http://tothebestof.com/bobby%20prince

(for those unaware, this website creates a top 10 list of the most listened songs in Last.fm)

Ghost doom

possess enemies, kill things

>>1427854
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=628059#p628059

Not done yet, needless to say - but it's at least going somewhere.

>>1427970
even if that's a real weapon, it looks so futuristic
that's pretty amazing

>>1427970
That looks Eriance quality

>>1427970
why does it become a skyscraper

any doom mods tuned for lean?

>>1428043
doom engine can't into leaning

>>1427970
why are you drawing another frame

http://info.sonicretro.org/images/c/cc/Rotsprite.7z

>>1427974
Weapons can look pretty crunk these days.

>>1428074
because it needs a pumping animation, plus its good practice and manually drawing more frames can yield results that no amount of sprite rotation can achieve.

>>1428116
no one cares though just add some particle effects it worked for Frozen

>>1428118
that's a joke, right?

>>1428126
all the recent popular mods do it no one looks right at the gun

>>1428128
yeah, you're joking
good job I figured that out before I wasted my time

>>1428118
well, as the one drawing the weapon, i like weapons more if they have at least more than one actual frame.

also, what's Frozen?

>>1428132
really overrated generic bastardization of a folktale disney film that sacrificed any relevant message and emotional content for tropey i want the man to love me bullshit that reused assets to the point of it being the disney version of a sonic recolour sprite comic

but people liked that it looked pretty because of all the particle effects since it was mostly all winter

>>1428131
>>1428132
This, I fucking hate how all of the high-profile weapon mods (with the exception of Project MSX, and maybe TSP) just have a single tile that floats around the screen super-smoothly. It doesn't feel real and it looks worse than the Golden-eye method of ducking off screen to reload (which still sucks balls)

I think we can blame Wildweasel for starting that trend.

>>1428137
can we blame him for other people taking it way too far?

>>1428137
I don't think that would be entirely fair, seeing as Wildweasel and the like will usually only do that if there aren't many assets available for a weapon (the Powerslave revolver is a pretty prominent example). I can understand people who can code mods but aren't all that into graphics-editing going for this method, but there's no point in encouraging it by making a single-image weapon.

>>1428137
STOP HATING ON GUNCASTER THO

>>1428137
>all of the high-profile weapon mods
By "all of the high profile weapon mods", did you mean Guncaster and literally nothing else? Name names or stop blowing shit way out of proportion for no reason.

>>1427195
I'm a stupid faggot for forgetting about Doomseeker.

>>1428118
>no one cares
DON'T YOU EVER SAY THAT TO A SPRITER AGAIN OR SO HELP ME GOD

>>1428205
THIS. There are those of us with zero ability to sprite from scratch, and we appreciate this shit tons because it gives us all good weapons and more stuff to work with. So fuck you, guy.

>>1427705
Might make it more similar in style anyway. Just different colored.

>>1428163
All of wild weasel's mods? nearly half of the weapon mods I've seen?

Chill the fuck out, I was making a statement and not trying to start a debate or an argument (but I can start one if you want)

>>1428152
The problem is that when they kitbash a weapon together or use a model rip they just take a single tile and use that one for all anims instead of taking a couple more and starting from that.

I'm no fucking artist but they still should be criticised because otherwise we might as well just tongue their balls and pretend there's nothing wrong with their mods - they don't seem to have any problems shitting on noob's mods at the Zdoom forums themselves.

>>1425852
Ever heard of Dark Mod?
That's what IdTech 4 is best for. It can't because the dynamic lights novelty it can't calculate many well lit areas, thus the omnious darkness. Doom 3 is a good game, a bit too slow for a Doom but not terrible. And can't see shit, of course.

>>1426794
>shoot rocket missles at walls and pillars
>the ceiling collapses
>you're trapped and not able to kill

>>1428137
>I think we can blame Wildweasel for starting that trend.

What?
Xaser and Wildweasel do super-smooth shit right because they don't use single tile stuff.

>>1428405
Anon probably meant started the trend of super-smooth and then other people fucked it up super hard

Additive + Rotsprite = Cacoward

>>1428373
>not being able to kill
My greatest fear.

>>1428405
I played ww-terrorists and the only gun that didn't use a single weapon frame was the pistols. dude's not an artist I realise that but the other gun's reloads weren't fun to use at all.

When I say frame, I mean a graphic that's moved about the screen alot, mostly offscreen, to hide that there's no more animations for it.

>mods deleting rotsprite posts
do they like it?

>>1427529
>>1427545

It's partially because the weapons are so limited (you've got your bullet hose, you shotgun, your overpowered pistol, your rocket launcher, your plasma gun, your BFG... and not much else) and the Vigor, er, magic use is somewhat limited. Unlike RO, where you can just scroll, then hold down Mouse 2 to pull out eight four-barrelled shotguns. (Sadly, I dislike how the bullet houses in RO are all the same. I love bullet hoses more than shotguns.)

Normally, this would be fine and dandy, but the thing is that the game it copies (Bioshock Infinite), there was SOME slowness to it. It doesn't translate that well to fast-paced murder time where you have a jetpack and do kajillion damage, even on the hardest difficulty. (I like how Devil's Kiss is still overpowered as shit, though.)

There's also the fact weapons had more weight to them in Bioshock Infinite (not as much as 2's, sadly), as well as that a lot of Heretic/Hexen enemies are melee. Try playing Samsara on either, and it becomes kind of a snoozefest after exploding the 500th dragonspawn with a shotgun. If Pillowblaster made it for Doom, it'd be a bit better.

If I knew how to code for shit, I'd gladly be making Guncaster a bit slower or adding new shit.

>>1427542
Eh, I'm not a scaly either, but I like dinosaurs and dragons and shit. Flying around is fun, but, yeah, I'd prefer the dragon to not look so cartoonish.

>>1427631
>>1427641
>>1427668
What he said, Sperglord edition allows no reloading.

Right now, I'm looking for a .wad that has pretty good high-level tech stuff to go with MSX/Zero Tolerance.

>>1428453
>high-level tech stuff

Hedrox, specially the second one since it goes slaughtertard, would fit PMSX

>>1428461
Thanks!

What's your favorite track in Doom, and if it was one that was based on a metal or rock song, do you also like that one?

I'm very partial to Facing The Spider

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPMVyp7LwIo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1JBwRFe6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OdSUAzg3lc

>>1428523
Sargent D and the S.O.D is my fucking jam, hearing that play during the final fight was so amazing. Also South of Heaven was a lot of fun to play with.

>>1428137
I want to say this is probably why Diaz turned out so well. Having an excellent coder who doesn't have to worry about graphics makes for an awesome pairing. I'm not a fan of the "single frame which jumps around with a doomguy hand punching shells/bullets in" or "rotsprited for all animation", I like to use it a bit more subtly. Sometimes it doesn't work out, but I like to have at least two frames of a gun where it's not just rotated, preferably in another angle. Working on that for the TSP pistol, maybe next update.

But yeah, don't rotsprite all your animations or I'll be sad.

>>1428547
*don't rotsprite all your animations or it'll be bad

>>1428547
Punching bullets/shells into guns is always kind of meh.
The only time it worked is the Super Shotgun.

What's rotsprite?

>>1428559
program that rotates images

>>1428547
>maybe next update.

You tease.

>>1428449
>If Pillowblaster made it for Doom, it'd be a bit better.
It's actually much more enjoyable when enemies can fight back even a little.

Heretic has the weakest enemies out of all the Doom engine games by far, and it's levels are pretty shit too.

So, how do you design maps?
I mean, do you start with a name and go from there? Or do you just design something you find interesting and name it accordingly?

What about deathmatch maps? Should they flow?

Normally, I'd be enjoying The Guncaster and shit, but for some fucking reason and despite my aversion to repeatedly dying/hard games, I'm enjoying Ghost Recon Rainbow Six: Dark Souls. It's fucking tense as Hell and goes remarkably well with DooM E1.

Are there any other .wads that'd go well with it? Bonus for ambiance or looking like a medieval shithole.

>>1428570
You play the shit out of good maps and figure out what makes a good map.

Then you find a theme to work with.
Then you make the level using that theme.

>>1428562
Any weapon mods that use that in particular?
It sounds like tilting sprites would make it look weird.

>>1428576
Guncaster and "A boy and his shotgun"

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37066

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45334

>>1428569
Yeah, that. It's frustrating, because they were a nice change of pace and look and play different from the same old DooM crap, but it's just not as fun.

I think PB said he'll port it to DooM in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGc8KxcYIPk

How the fuck did they make this version sound so bad?

>>1428569
>Heretic has the weakest enemies out of all the Doom engine games by far, and it's levels are pretty shit too.

Yeah, I think this is why I'm just completely "meh" on Guncaster. I don't have fun playing Heretic normally due to levels/weak enemies, but being able to overpower the weak enemies and removing what little challenge there was just made it a slog to go through.

>>1428576
Space Pirate uses it for a couple of guns (I'd like to think very subtly but your opinion may differ). I don't just throw it in rotsprite and call it a day though, I go back in Photoshop and edit it some more.

>>1428580
Guncaster used it?

I honestly thought the weapon sprites looked fine enough.
Didn't even mind the dragon hands.

My issue was more about having to use Heretic.

>>1428131
>>1428583
see? no one cares

>>1428585
I couldn't tell and honestly I liked how TSP's weapons animated.
The only thing that ever really stuck out was the grip on the shotgun and that's really only because I'm so used to seeing that shotgun sprite base without the grip.
I don't even think the grip looks bad.

>>1428582
Some of the 32X tracks DO sound alright. Mostly the more ambient selections (E1M2 for example)

Guncaster kind of works in Doom.

No gold or ammo pickups, or bullet puffs but everything else is completely functional.

Went through Plutonia with it.
It's actually pretty fun

>>1428585
Yup. It's one of the reasons why I'm kinda boggled Samsara supports it.

Is it me, or is the Return of the Triad .wad (a wad that was advertised by the ROTT remake devs, and is far superior to fucking ROTT 2013) broken? Even if I'm playing as Thi or Loreli, I always get Taradino's voice and I occasionally get Doug's black-ass hands.

>>1428523
E1M8 is the best song.

I actually play with a wad called PRJDOOM.wad which basically remakes all the songs to be more "metal"/guitar-based...in MIDI. E1M1 sounds awesome now instead of being all slow and shit.

>>1428604
Don't weapon pickups get borked?

>>1428608
Yes it does.

At the first level I gave myself all guns + ammo.

Then refilled ammo every couple of levels.

Limited myself to not just pick the strongest guns and progressed like normal.
I wouldn't mind playing Guncaster properly in Doom at all.

Magic is still a bit too overpowered though.

>>1428547
>don't rotsprite all your animations or I'll be sad
But what if all I have to work with is original Doom sprites (Alpha, Beta and Final)?

>>1428623
fricking edit something then

>>1428523
it has to be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
had this stuck in my head on/off for years

also a good cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MiGPQleXw

>>1428623
I think you could edit them to make them look better.
I also think there's a lot of edits out there that use the base Doom sprites.

Personally I was never really a fan of older Doom sprites. Only the final version's sprites looked good to me.

>>1428623
What I'm getting at is if you use rotsprite for like 5 frames it's going to just look like a static weapon graphic that you're spinning around...because that's what you're doing. Rotsprite one at a slightly tilted angle, maybe around 15 degrees for reloads, use offsets to your advantage. For firing frames, subtle use of scale can go a long way as well.

>>1428547
>I'm not a fan of the "single frame which jumps around with a doomguy hand punching shells/bullets

Uh, what would you say if I said I want to take the beautiful Doom SSG animations, give a more silver/metal look, and had a baratus hand punching in "shells"?

Because I can't find a center-viewed blunderbuss, plus I love the SSG, and if I can add it to GMOTA, that'd be just dandy

>>1428570
>So, how do you design maps?
john romero likes to use a horseshoe shape and make the player fully utilise the map by backtracking and reusing areas
he also sometimes put thought into the players' spawn point - what is the first thing they see? make it interesting
finally lack of colour can be fixed with blue carpet
and secrets are behind slightly different textures

>>1428658
Would it be possible to edit the hands slightly to look more natural when putting shells in?

>>1428664

Well there's a few more unique baratus hands in Brutal Hexen.

>>1428668
I think it should just look a little more natural when putting shells in.

Doomguy's clenched fist looks mostly proper when putting in his shells.

But Baratus's punching hand sprite would look a tad awkward.

>>1428670

I'll look into it, this weapon won't be for v1.0 anyway, so I got time.

>>1428243

So you think I should add the corner thingies again?

>>1428658
This would probably be fine if it's just using the stock Doom sprites as a base since that's what was done there.

>>1428675
Well I'm not against MedievalDoomguy having a shotgun, it's just got to look natural when animating.

>>1428679

That's what I was thinking, but as that other guy said, Baratus' fist might look a little weird, I'll have to see what I can do about that later. Should be fun though!

>>1428680

oh no I agree, I try to make sure shit looks somewhat presentable in my mod. Except for my HUD, that's a bit of a mess, but the weapons are alright at least.

>>1428690
I'm pretty sure it'll look alright, and if anything, you could rotsprite the fist just a bit if the angle is weird!

(serious suggestion)

>>1428690
>>1428695
So GMOTATSP crossover when?

>>1428725
Probably for Zandobrawl along with Samus and Little Mac.

(little mac confirmed for TSP)

>>1428695

I was thinking that, though I'd try to make it look natural, I actually rotated a few frames of baratus' arm for the subweapon throw animation, and i think that turned out okay.

>>1428731
Is Little Mac really playable in TSP?

Does he have lots of different kinds of punches and dodges to do?

Or am I being rused here?

I really love melee combos and stuff so that's why I'm asking

To add to the discussion about presentation in mods, while this DOES NOT apply to weapon sprites in the hud, it's worth noting that you can make a really good looking projectile/grenade/explosion effect/whatever with only a couple of sprites (in a lot of cases just vanilla sprites from doom/heretic/hexen) and some code.

>>1428737

>>1428741

if you really are putting lil mac in, you have to make sure his view is lower than Doomguy's.

>>1427990

HEY GUYS

OR HOW ABOUT, WAIT FOR IT, a Little Mac knockoff for Doomfighters

>>1427990
>>1428750
That's how the gun actually looks on the side.

>>1428523
The combination of E2M2's music and creeping through the maze of crates me jumpy as hell back then.

Stuck with me as a simple but catchy background tune ever since.

>>1428773
looks like windows without seeing the inside of the tubes through the holes

>>1428741
Rocket launcher for TSP when?

I just want to beat Doom 2 but them Icon of Sins, man.

>>1428773
>>1428775
Fuck, I was >>1428750, the picture didn't post

>>1428784
Same time as the Flamethrower and other junk...

March.

>>1428787
There's a flamethrower now?

That's news to me.
I thought it was going to be a rocket launcher replacement, triple barrel shotgun and shell types only with the next update.

>>1428675
I guess it's shape is fine really. Might match the color to the weapon slot, or make it the same style as the weapons slot but silver.

Something like that. Right now it feels a little out of place is all

>>1428785
What sort of gun is that?

I'm sure there's a thing to combine the three episodes of Doom 1, but is there one to combine the four episodes of UltDoom?

>>1428819
>I'm sure there's a thing to combine the three episodes of Doom 1

Doom: One, right? Goddammit it sucks balls hard

>but is there one to combine the four episodes of UltDoom?

No idea, hook a brother up if you find anything

>>1428819
You mean like that all maps in one map wad for Doom 2? (Tribute or something like that)

>>1428817
That's a shotgun.
It has two barrels.

>>1428829
I meant the name of the gun. Model-wise.

>>1428810

Yeah, that DOES look better with the subweapon box colors.

>>1428817
UTS-15, it is a pump-action shotgun, but unlike a regular pump-action shotgun, that has a single magazine-tube under the barrel, this one has two, above the barrel.

Basically, the longer the tube under the barrel of a shotgun is, the more shells it can hold, now, the UTS-15, rather than being awkwardly long, instead has two magazines side-by-side, that you can select between.

Not strictly a new concept, but an unusual one nonetheless.
The Kel-Tec KSG (pic related) works on the same concept.

>>1428836
UTS 15

>>1428817
>>1428836
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/tr/shotgun-utas-uts-15-e.html

>>1428829
Two tubes, not barrels.

Either way, I meant to show a photo to the guy asking why the sprite looks like that from the side.

>>1428841
KelTec looks nicer imo.

UTS always looked unwieldy. But having not fired one yet I couldn't be sure.

>>1428453
SgtMark Brutal Doom allows no reloading too.

>>1428831
>Tribute

*Memorial

>>1428846
Supposedly, it's less finicky too, but I've handled neither, so I can't say myself. I do agree with you though.

Though since Kel-Tec doesn't seem to understand the concept of supply and demand, you'd be lucky to find one, and at a reasonable price at that.

Personally, I prefer a simple gun, like an Ithaca M37

>>1428851
Yeh. That was it.

I don't like how the music doesn't change each level in that one. It's like every 5 levels or something.

>>1428790
Here's a vague tease idea of what you can expect in the next version.

>>1428819
I realize now that it sounds like I was asking if someone did a thing with all the levels in one level, what I mean was did someone make a thing with all the levels not separated by episodes.

>>1428852
I always wanted to get some piping from home depot and make my own single shot shot gun. But I lack the tools/money.

Someday though... someday...

>>1428854

Man I gotta get me some fancy pants fonts for my menus and stuff

>>1428857
It's literally this simple, you can make a functional, legal single-shot shotgun with some very basic tools, with materials gathered from a WalMart or Home Depot, for less than 7-8 dollars.

It's simple, legal (as long as it's 18 inches) and can fire anything but slugs (or rather, don't shoot a lot of slugs with one)

>>1428864

Someone should make a homebrew weapons pack for Doom. With a shotgun like this and other homebrew shit

>>1428864
Yeh. I had something with a simple trigger in mind though. Drew up a basic design a long time ago, and watched a bunch of videos on garage guns.

Metal too soft for a slug?

>>1428870
If you ever feel the need, go hit up /k/, they love home made weapons.

I particularly like the idea of making a submachinegun, it's so lovably simple.

>>1428873
I don't really know, but since it's a piece of water-pipe or whatever, and not an actual gun barrel, I don't imagine that a prolonged use of slugs will make it stand for a long while. I mean, they'll fire, and it probably won't explode, but I'd rather be on the safe side.

Besides, four-winds are light as fuck, so a slug will kick like a bastard. If you ever make a four-winds, you might want to wrap some good grip tape around both of the pipes, to make sure recoil won't throw the "firing mechanism" out of your hand", keep a firm grip is all I'm saying.

Why does beautiful doom force you to use autoaim? Can I disable it in some way?

>>1428854
I recognize all the weapons except for Zephon.

>>1428886
Fair enough. Don't need to fire slugs anyway. Don't NEED to fire anything really, but it seems like a fun project. Amateur gunsmithery

>>1428907
All in good fun.

>>1428906
It is different than the rest, for sure.

>>1428920

>ps3 controller

>>1428927
You could use one with your computer, if you unplug your PS3 and get some drivers.

So you could use it for retro vidya emulation.

>>1428932

Honestly I'm just having a laugh I figured it'd be funnier to react to the controller rather than the ginormous spider.

What the fuck I didn't autocorrected for ginormous, that's an actual word!?

>>1428939
No, the actual word is giganormal

http://kotaku.com/ex-id-employee-reveals-doom-4-de-5884101

>>1428949
>restarted TWICE
Development Hell 2.0

>>1428949
>>1428951
>>>/v/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/kc/

>>1428949
Fuck you for making me give them pageviews.

>>1428949
did they just google doom 4 to fill out their article

>>1428962
If that's a hitscanner enemy I swear to god

>>1428970
no, there's no hitscan enemies in doom 4

it's all rail attacks

>>1428973
what does that mean are you making a joke

>>1428920
That spiderbro is adorable.

>>1428962
thats from like 05 lol

>>1428982
i'm not joking i'm lying

Guys, how would I go about implementing a taunt in zdoom?
I want to tell the demons to go fuck themselves, but *taunt isn't available in zdoom.

>>1428993
add a key that does the command give tauntitem and then for the ready state of every weapon do a A_JumpIfInventory("tauntitem",1,"Taunt") for 0 tics before the A_WeaponReady frame and then make a Taunt state

>>1428993

Brutal doom added its own unique taunt key which works for both Zandronum and Zdoom.

Also use this instead

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0sV35QjlcAJ

Gimme a mod that makes shit prettier but without changing the gameplay too much.

>>1429014
Beautiful Doom.

It was made for exactly that reason.

Chaingun sprite kinda sucks though

>>1429001
I've done a few more things since then in a similar vein

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nTfn8DuRL0

>>1429026

You need some old arcade phrases like WISE FWOM YO GWAVE and WELCOME TO DIE

>>1429028
It would need more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YyX9kRw_QM

Too lazy to link to thread

I thought you guys might enjoy this.
Pic unrelated.

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

>>1429074

What the everlasting fuck is going on in that pic, I know it's Goemon and Ebisumaru but... what

>>1428819
sounds like someone doesn't want to pistolstart E4M1

pussy.

>>1429085
Nope, wanted to play RPG through it without restarting.

>>1429080
That's from the intro from this game (which also is my 2nd favorite game in the series.) Ebisumaru wakes Goemon up and to his suprise, he sees this.

>>1429085
>implying E4M1 isn't a chore to play
>implying E4M2 wasn't annoying as fuck
I didn't particularly like E4 that much at all I guess.

Why has every single horror mod for Doom been utter shit?

I just got through Unloved and was bored to fucking tears. So boring. So fucking boring. It has decent level design and tries to build up an atmosphere, but then you get a rocket launcher and imps surround you and UUGGGHHH

WHERE'S THE GODDAMN HORROR
I JUST WANT TO BE SCARED, GOD DAMMIT

>>1428995
Right, after downloading brutal doom and looking through its code a bit, I've got the command assigned to a key and the taunt sounds in the pk3, but I can't figure out what to do about the weapon ready states bit.

>>1429123
Unloved wasn't made to be scary.

It was made to be atmospheric.

>>1429131
>using brutal doom code

THAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION OF A TAUNT
LOOK AT SAMSARA'S ZDOOM VERSION
THAT IS MUCH SIMPLER AND EASIER

>>1429123

There are plenty that do a good job of building tension.

However you will never be as terrified of a videogame as you were when you were seven ever again. I know that sucks, but that's just how it goes and the sooner you realize it the happier you'll be.

>>1429136
Didn't realize samsara added a taunt to zdoom, I'll have to look at that.

>>1429141

whoah get a load of this badass

Accessories to Voxel version 1.1 is here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/q336xgf131t4887/Accessories_to_Voxel1.1.pk3
-all 3 casings are voxels, thanks for the tip
-Pistol resized
-bfg cell voxels

ignore and report

>>1429183

Ignore and report WHAT?
Are you so thin-skinned now that you can't even handle simple disagreements?

definitely ignore and report

>>1428775
yeah, i just haven't drawn the tube part yet.

whats some good screen capture software? I have some doom demos I want to record.

>>1429206
fraps

>>1429212

Theres also Dxtory

>>1429206
http://gametipsandmore.blogspot.ca/2012/10/testrun-video-edition-fraps-vs-dxtory.html

Personally Dxtory with the Lagarith codec (set to YV12) gives me lossless video at reasonable size and performance, but if you don't care enough go with fraps or bandicam

>>1429014
>that makes shit prettier

Okay, honest, you can't stand pixels?

>>1429176

Huh?

How is saying that people won't get scared from a videogame like they were when they were seven something "badass"?

I'm not saying like whoa man I'm so hardcore cause doom doesn't scare me, I'm saying that if someone is trying to find a doom wad or even any videogame that is going to really and truly scare them and not just make them jump with jumpscares or just have tension (which is great in a game, but not the same thing as being scared) then they're probably going to be disappointed.

The reason for the seven year old comment is because I too was scared by certain videogames when I was younger, and then when I grew older tried to find games that would have the same effect on me but it turned out to be a fruitless endeavor. It sucks. It's a shame. But that's the way it is sometimes.

>>1429189
Do you know of any good voxels for the doom barrel or other vanilla doom voxels other than the doom voxel project?

>>1429247
I think he's just talking about stuff like animated light objects, smooth weapon animations, etc.

The game can look "better" without necessarily getting any kind of shitty filters/"hi-res" remake.

>>1428858
You can do it yourself in 10 minutes with MAPINFO. Copy the Doom definitions from zdoom.pk3, put them in a new MAPINFO lump in a new wad, change the "NEXTMAP" definitions in E1M8, E2M8 and E3M8 to E2M1, E3M1 and E4M1. That easy.

That said: it's not very fun. If you just need help getting weapons to be uber strong at the beginning of an episode, just cheat. Like the pussy faggot you are. Otherwise, man up and git gud.

>>1429304

and to further drive home this guy's point: All you really need for the most part is a shotgun and the ability to dodge.

>>1425381
Need second opinion sure do these sleeve look right?

Hey IMX--got a sheet of your eyeless pinky with regular legs? I wanna try a thing.

Eric is a cheeky fucker.

>>1429310
so do these

>>1429321

>got a sheet of your eyeless pinky with regular legs?

Regular legs? But the Devourer HAS the regular ones

god damn. I think these might be a little too good.

>>1429349
Oh, does it? Sorry, I thought I saw a variant running around with the mech legs.

It's the actual sheet I'm interested in anyway; I wanna see if I can base a monster on it but I don't wanna do the tedious sheet-making part just to see if my idea will pan out.

>>1429416

I should probably add a little clarity to this. those zombies are just frozen like that.

Caltrops rock

>>1429416
op pls nerf

Is it better to release updates to mods as they're finished or hold off and release larger updates?

Which do you guys generally prefer?

>>1429427

Suck my balls

>>1429417

This might do the trick

>>1429432
i'll suck them right out of your scrotum

>>1429431

I do a little of both, though this next update I'm working on is pretty damn chunky.

>>1429437

Don't do that, I need those for bribing Eriance later.

>>1428970
It's not a real doom 4 enemy. It's a doom 3 styled enemy by some dude made a long long time ago.

>>1426576
Yeah but it's a perfectly sensible rule to have, since there's literally no reason to modify someone else's file when you can just release a mutator as a separate file.

That's pretty much the whole reason the wad format exists to begin with.

>>1429436
Thanks bro! Hopefully I'll have something cool to show on Wednesday.

Is anyone good at hellbase maps? I'm transitioning to that part of my map project now but I'm running a little out of steam and could use a second guy.

>>1429493
I've tried to release my "Modify Hard Doom for use with Metroid: Dreadnought" project as a comparability patch, but because the project had custom weapons in it, I couldn't keep the game from giving them to the player when they cheat, and just telling people to "Yo, don't cheat, it breaks the game" just reeks of half-assed. While It is sensible to have such a rule... it really fucks me over in this regard.

>>1429545
remove them from the weapon slots / replace them with actors that aren't weapons

>>1429550

Done that, it didn't work.

>>1429545
>just telling people to "Yo, don't cheat, it breaks the game" just reeks of half-assed.

But then it's their own damn fault if the game breaks.

>>1429532

Go check Hellbound, that trend is in almost every map

>>1429557
is metroid loaded after hard doom

>>1429545

"If cheats are used, the game may break" is better than "Don't use cheats, it breaks the game". Don't tell people what to do, just tell them what will happen if they do it and let them make their own decisions.

brutal doom has 9,999 likes on facebook

can 9,999 people be wrong?

>>1429629
Nope, I load it before Hard Doom.

>>1429639
Oh, of course.

>>1429656
then any changes you make to the weapons would be reverted because the last loaded gets used

like if i load yumyum.wad and 56ers.pk3 in that order and they both have an actor called Relish the 56ers.pk3 Relish is used

load metroid after hard doom

unless you're directly modifying hard doom

>>1429647
One of them is me!

I like it. It's fun. It's not amazing, or the second coming. But it's fun. (it was better ~v0.6 or so though)

>>1429664
V6? Anything prior to v10 was a total piece of useless crap. Extremely exagerated and unrealistic mspaint-ish blood, dense smoke everywhere making everyone blind, uncomfortable weapons, reduced player speed, etc. BD only started to actually become good with v14.

>>1429683
Yeah I think I came in around v6... Though I could be misremembering. Was a little over a year ago. Whatever version that was.

>>1429212
thanks I totally forgot about fraps actually heres alittle quick vid I whipped up tonight.

http://youtu.be/y8RRDcnOTnA

>>1429647
>can 9,999 people be wrong?

Yes.

Why is the layout on the forums on Realm667 so bizzare?

It's this window inside a window so it makes things way harder to view, why....why would you do this?

>>1429247
Nigga I play fucking roguelikes, don't be implying I'm a graphics whore. I'm talking about stuff like>>1429294 mentioned. Better sounds help too because let's face it some of them haven't aged well (chaingun comes to mind.)