/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-If you feel like trying a new mod, give GMOTA a chance! Go check it here! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401#p742401

-The past Awesome Games Done Quick featured a playthrough of Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and also a bid war between Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 which ended in the latter winning for over 8 bucks, therefore it was featured in a race between Dime (who also ran Plutonia) and Vortale. To rewatch the Doom speedruns, go follow this link http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1229035

-Guess who received an update? OBLIGE! Now it's in version number 6, and oh man things surely have improved, go check it here! http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=307.0

-CACOWARDS? SURE, HERE! http://www.doomworld.com/20years.. Feel absolutely free to share your thoughts about the works chosen for this edition. And man oh man, they surely left a lot of stuff to discuss related to the decisions made on some wads...

-Doomsday received a brand new update, now you can play with the Oculus Rift! Go download Doomsday here! http://dengine.net/

-ChocoDoom got updated in the 20th anniversary. Now you can play Heretic, Hexen and Strife too! Go grab each version of them here! http://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

-Jimmy's Jukebox may be get a new update very soon...get hype!!! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29117&start=180

Remember guys, Dooming is serious business

>>1415101

>super shotgun style rotating barrels

Nice

>>1415147
Whose panties are those...?

>>1415148
Reposting here, now in Doom pallete.

I didn't make the concept, but I did edit it significantly from the last one, so. I wanted an upgraded Nailgun that resembled the Quake one.

I normal summon an Imp and then activate my double shotgun spell card to double its attack!
Yugioh in Doom when.

>>1415172

It's gonna be a projectile based weapon, right?

>>1415171

Crash's, obviously.

>>1415175

I'd love to do an action card game in Doom, but the question is figuring out a set of rules that encourages fast-paced play.

Simply just laying down a card and summoning a monster is surprisingly boring, especially when other mods (like ZDoom Wars) have done it far better.

I downloaded that idgames torrent and ZDL, and I already have had the DOOM Megapack for about a year now.

Where do I dump shit and what butten do i pres to make it all work.

>>1415178
Yeah, fires nails, like the "MG Nailgun" already on R667. I love the way that gun looks, except its edges (which I changed using, apparently, what were a rejected draft graphic or something) and how fast it fired for the tier I was using it for.

I'm basically doing a Quake weapons mod, with randomizers and everything. Since you start with the shotgun, I replaced all the shotguns with the regular Nailgun, which was a little too overpowered, so I nerfed it a little.

>>1415198
> downloads every WAD ever
> doesn't even know how to load one

Just get one and learn how to do that first. Damn.

>>1415206

So you're going for Quake 1 then, so players will also start out with that... shovel. Axe. Thing, right?

>>1415198

Use ZDL and point it towards your iwads, then load up your pwads in any order you want on ZDL's main menu

>>1415215
It was an axe, yeah. I've been intending on it...it's just that there are no good axe sprites anywhere. Also having problems getting a shotgun that isn't horribly overused. Just made an SSG to solve the same problem...not sure I like it yet.

I also don't have a real replacement for the chainsaw, just using the double chainsaw from R667 right now, because of Doom64.

>>1415230

Oh, I like that SSG, nice work there anon.

and you could always take a note from Quake 2 and give the player a blaster instead, the axe is kinda shit anyways

>>1415242
I did that a long time ago in another mod I did years ago that sort of attempted to do the same thing, but with reloading weapons, and a bunch of other crap, and not very well, and it was never properly finished, and...

Point is: I made a blaster before and it was mostly criticized as "weak" and "annoying." Doom's balance has room for a melee weapon anyway; although the Berserk pack is likely to be replaced with a Quad Damage powerup or something.

Also, I did something cool nobody else did; I used the item rotations from KDIZD and instead made it so items spin and float, just like Quake. It's pretty neat to see a floating spinny armour.

>>1415261

well you could always crank up the damage on the blaster. But good luck on getting some axe sprites

So i just played that /g/.wad[ARCHIE_BETA]
What the fuck did i just played?

>>1415264
I'm considering ripping the model fresh at a high resolution and working from that. Or finding an axe at my father's house and taking damn pictures.

Come to think, about a month ago someone started on an axe, didn't they?

>>1415212
>2012
>Not diving in headfirst to all situations.
Going HAM is more than just a state of mind, man, it's a way of life. You can't just turn it off.

I'm at work now anyway so i'll fuck around with it at home. I fiddled around with the ZDL program in the space of two minutes but nothing came up. Figure it's not directed at the right folder yet.

>>1415230

Whoa, sauce on that SSG? I don't recall seeing it on any mod

>>1415359
No shit. I just made it. Like a half hour ago. It isn't even in the game yet, just sprites.

It's the D64 SSG reload sprites (by Cage). I greyscaled just the barrel parts on the barrels, made a second layer, set it to screen, did that twice, tweaked it here and there, converted it to Doom palette, and boom. The stock on the ready sprite is from the Coachgun, and I'm pretty sure that came from something else to begin with, too. The barrels were edited down until they were shorter. (I should have edited them on the other sprites too, but fuck it.)

Anyway, it's for my Quake weapons wad I just mentioned.

I put the Super Nailgun in the game but the rotations look like shit. I can see why other people abandoned this now.

Does Deathkings get any better after the first hub? It's been nothing but a hassle so far, and looking for this ruby really pissed me off.

>>1415425
>they don't know that they can just ignore the one-at-a-time thread

>>1415425

I love /vr/ and the doom threads

>>1415447
I almost kinda want to do a Doom take on the Discovery Channel Boom De Yadda commercial

>>1415424
fuck you deathkings is great,and yes,the second hub is the best thing you can get
spoilers ahead:You fight the heresiarch in a short space
imo,its better when you play it with WoC+Hexercise

question:its possible to add enemies from Heretic/HeXen/blood/witchaven to doom and vice versa for Hexen?
because i have the idea to make a hub wad[think in making an HeXen hub] where all the enemies are skeletons

Paranoid is blowing my mind right now. If it wasn't for the 2D sprite enemies and on screen weapons, I would think it was a full blown half life game.

>>1415465
Technically, yes. If you try to just summon them, they'll just be invisible however. You need to take the sprites from that game and put them in a WAD to use with the other game.

So if you want the Shotgun guy from Doom in Hexen, you have to take his sprites, and put them in a WAD, and then convert them to Hexen's pallete. This is the hard part, because that can look fine or it can look like shit, depending on the sprite. Then when you summon the Shotgun guy, it'll show up.

However, I'd recommend also starting a whole new DECORATE definition and making him a technically separate enemy; this way you can edit him to drop different items, have different health, attacks, etc.

Also, Blood won't work because it's not a Doom engine game. I dunno about Witchhaven but I doubt it.

>>1415459
I liked the original game a lot more than this. Levels with 40 respawning stalkers and dozens of slaughtars are not very fun.
Spoiler: I'm Parias and I have 25 flechettes. That dude can suck my cock.

>>1415472
with vice versa for hexen,i meant that if i can put enemies form Blood/witchaven to Hexen,not putting enemies from said games to blood/witchaven

>>1415425
I love that pic

>>1415510

Pink guy, white guy and second row middle.

Who

>>1415448
We Need to do this. Now.

>>1415510

>Lex Luthor and Marina

Fucking solid gold

>>1415448
We must do this! Quickly!

>>1415523
Lex Luthor, not sure, and Hereticelf

I want small castle maps. Does that make sense? Quick-paced, beatable in <5 minutes on first pass, challenging but not too much.

>>1415575
Jesus christ, there are humans on this board!

>>1415575
Revenants shouldn't run around without their shoulder pads on.

Such nudity will surely scar the imps.

>>1415242
but the axe looks so cool!

>>1415523
White (girl) is the main character from Mischief Makers.

>>1415510
Where's Gordon Freeman and the Crusader from Oblivion? I know some of us have those edits saved somewhere

Clearly the best Rip and Tear is this one

>>1415717
When Doom Guy sees a Revenant, how does he Rip and Tear it?

You can't Rip or Tear bones! Only break!

>>1415709
I only have the Gordon one.

>>1415447
That sound is terrifying. I wonder what animal it is?

I'm pretty sure the cyberdemon, demon, and baron sounds are all from the same stock recording of a pissed-off bull.

How do I kill cyberdemon pls halp kthxbye

>>1415791
Make it obsolete with circle strafe.

>>1415791

>Boss that kills you in one hit (unless you're roided as fuck) but can't hit you.
>Boss that you can't stop from hitting you and takes forever to kill you.

Truly DOOM has the worst of both worlds.

>>1415803

No

>No shotgun adorned with a steel ribcage
Isn't this game supposed to be gothiq as fuq

>>1415803
>Spider Mastermind
>takes forever to kill you
u wot m8

>>1415828
Unless you're rubbing mechanical dicks with it, it does.

>>1415857
>not rubbing mechanical dicks with a qt spider lord

>have brilliant ideas in fusing wads
>they always explode in my face
why?

things wrong
>Start with PSXFist and PSXpistol and that's it. no RLArmorRemover or RLBootsRemover in inventory
>No classes or even the ability to change classes even in console
>Weapons are empty when obtained
>Gibs are slow somewhat
I'll continue anyways because the game gave me a lightweaver from a shotgun spawn

>>1415540
First episode of scythe 2

>>1415901
The first issue sounds like an issue with whatever PSX mod you're using's KEYCONF lump. It probably has a clearclasses line that's screwing up the DOOMRL player things. KEYCONF always takes priority over other lumps, if you try loading the DOOMRL mod after or however you're doing that should vaguely fix that.

>>1415962
I loaded it later in the list anyways

I'll dig through it possibly if I have time tomorrow

So I got the idpack working.

Is mapmaking extremely hard in DOOM or do people have absolute no idea about basic level design? I'm playing some of these levels and they just use the same basic texture for every wall, some walls use what looks like a skybox texture, and enemies are just placed randomly. Half the rooms are dead fucking empty then you walk into another one and it's filled to the brim with random shit.

I had this same experience with Dungeon Keeper. If you can even figure out how to make maps in Dungeon Keeper, you're a smart person. Then they go and make a level at max size that's nothing but empty dirt and one room with enemies in the middle somewhere. Fill in dead space with impenetrable rock? No, that's silly, here you have dirt.


Like
what the fuck am I playing

>>1416078
Well, what wad are you playing?

The idgames archive is every damn wad hosted by idgames, there is gonna be a lot of shit.

>>1415962
You know what I was going to ask.

>>1416138
PIRATEFALL

>>1416094
This. This is why you DON'T just grab the entire fucking torrent and dive in head first. It'd be like if you never played or heard of NES games before and just started playing every NES game in alphabetical order or something.

Look up Doomworld's Top 100 WADs of All Time and the Cacowards. Those are a generally accepted barometer of quality. Play those. If you find a few you like, ask people what else you would like. You say, "I dig Zen Dynamics," or "I'm looking for more stuff like Scythe."

>>1416151

Well that Unloved .wad was 10/10.

>>1415709
Crusader from Oblivion? You mean Pelinal Whitestrake? Yeah, he was... different. He pretty much had the RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS attitude towards elves though.

>>1416078
Welcome to 1994 .wad's
Enjoy your hell.

So, I'm lazily digging through Hellbound at this moment, and I'm kinda stuck on MAP15, the Vault. I basically completed the level the normal way, but I can't find the secret exit at all. I figured that it's got to be behind a red key door near the top left, but the red key is hidden so well. Where the hell is it?

>>1416176

This should do the trick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPKxD0aoFaQ

>>1416185
Thanks, finally found it.

>>1416176

>2012
>Not using IDDT to check for missed secrets before you finish the level.

ISHYGDDT

>>1416207
not him but IDDT[and anything ID<cheat> except IDDQD] in my GZDoom doesnt work

So after replaying some DOUK i've come to a realization.

DOUK kinda sucks.

>>1416278

How to make a good cave level?

So far I got
>height variations
>light variations

>>1416278

Something about the way he controls. It feels like everything is made of ice. Running/Jumping is so unco too.

>>1416286
To make really complex shit map out the area you want to have, then copy+paste that area off to the side twice. Then make your floor and ceiling separate, since it will take you far less time to work each independently if they don't line up. Then copy and paste them back onto each other where they will actually be in the map and refer to the other sectors which height the sectors should be.

>>1416278
I lost interest halfway in the second episode of Douk 3D, the one in space. Fuck those floating drones with Doom imp-like screams and the inconvenient damage sponge with a hitscan weapon around nearly every corner. Douk is pretty fragile to begin with.

Otherwise, some of the levels in Hollywood Holocaust looked neat for its time with all the interactivity. For some reason I like canyons in video games I blame Star Wars Phantom Menace, so that's a bonus.

That upcoming Vita port of Douk 3D would be great for a retro shooter on the go, but holy hell it's taking quite some time.

>>1416304
Episode 2 is the worst. 3 is loads better.

>>1416294
So you make the floor, copy it to somewhere, then turn that into the roof and paste it back?

I can see the use for it, but cant this stuff just be done on the fly in 3d mode?

>>1416304
I was fucking over those suicide bomb things, they had way too much health. Did not really mind the rest.

>>1416313
>So you make the floor, copy it to somewhere, then turn that into the roof and paste it back?
>I can see the use for it, but cant this stuff just be done on the fly in 3d mode?

not when you got like a billion little sectors and it gets hard to aim at them and want to move things up and down in gradients smaller than the 3d mode allows

>>1416314
So you would make stalagmites as 3d objects hanging from the roof and not as sprites?

I like where you're going with this, I'd just prefer more details.

>>1416317
Oh yeah, I knew I mucked it up.
Stalagmites come from the floor, not the ceiling....oops.

*Stalactite* come from the roof.

>>1416312
Why does everyone hate the space levels so hard? Ok, sure, some design choices were pretty shit, but the backgrounds....I love those bg's.

>>1416363
Because what matters is the levels, not the backgrounds.

>>1416363
It's just not as good as the other episodes. All those suicide drones.

>>1415816
nope

A few days ago I did an edit of the Spider Mastermind based on a picture of the real latex model. Left is the original, right is the recolored one, Doom palette.

Also I did a poll regarding whether or not I should create a full spritesheet of this

http://strawpoll.me/1165828

>>1416372
I think the brain part could do with a slightly lighter color to match the latex model as closely as possible, if you can
othewise I just don't see it, it looks dark in a way which... is too subtle

So I got to the first page of "projects" on zdoom and see this

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=34376

I dont get it, it looks like weeaboo shit to me but then I see some projects and wonder "why?". Turns out the author just wants to see how far he can go with a dialogue system, ok fair enough.... but the cancerous SJW garbage that came at it was almost as bad.

It's like there is some sort of cultural cringe from these people and they have to try and look as appealing as possible for Kotaku and Cracked.com in case they come and piss and moan at them for whatever the reason of the day is.

Fucking, Rise Of The Triad!
It is awesome! :'3

Fun Fact: Was Originally going to be titled Wolfenstein 2: Rise Of The Triad.

>>1416448

If you like rott then go try this

http://elzee.co.nz/rotttc/index.html

>>1416383

Cracked? Really? I didn't expect them to be SJW's.

doom 4 conformed

>>1416529
>2010
>Still getting hyped for DOOM.

No, bad anon, smack you on the nose. If you never get hyped, you never get disappointed.

Do any of you know how to get this running: https://github.com/id-Software/wolf3d-browser

>>1416529
There's a new Wolfenstein game coming with Doom 4 somewhere on the horizon? I'm fearful to see what abominations will come out, especially since the "gameplay" trailer for Wolf on the site didn't show any actual gameplay.

I made a terrible mistake and got Doom 3 BFG instead of Doom 3 during that last steam sale.

Is it possible to rip the WADs for the classic Doom games from it?

>>1416529
>Preorder a shit game to get beta access to a shit game
Seems like a good use of my money.

>>1416561
Going from the DoomWiki, the WADs should be located in
<Steam directory>/SteamApps/common/DOOM 3 BFG Edition/base/wads
There should be Doom.wad, Doom2.wad, and Nerve.wad

>>1416574
Fantastic, thanks.

>>1416529
>40~50€ for the game as a precommand
wow, they totally understood the current market...
>internet connection needed for the doom beta and the new wolf
stinks of DRM
welp, i guess you can't really help it, thanks zeimax...
at least they didn't make it an MMO... yet

LOL I CAN PLAY DOOM ALL DAI XD

yeah, no.

>>1416597
>he can't play doom all day
stay casul

Guys how do I make my maps fun?

>>1416383
>read the topic
>a furry being elitist about language

Seriously what the fuck is with furries and always being arrogant fuckheads? I've very very rarely seen a furry who also wasn't a fuckhead.

>>1416613
non-fuckeads furries probably keep their furryness to closed circles, so that could be why most people only see the annoying/visible side of the community

>>1416597
lol fag
>>>/out/

Doom 4 has been officially retitled to just "Doom".

How does this make you all feel?

>>1416724
/out/ here
stop sending retards over here

>>1416726
This gives me a really thin glimmer of hope that it'll be to original games what Serious Sam HD was to Serious Sam Classic.

>>1416742
That's not going to happen, anon. It's going to be The4f all over again and you know it.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIG-KAI-6808&page=top


I will just leave this here.

>>1416726
Pretty bad. This'll make it the second reboot the series has had.

I mean, I was actually kind of hoping for a sequel to Doom 3. Like, not...not stylistically, or thematically, but continuity-wise. If Doom 3 was Alien, I wanted Doom 4 to be Aliens. Just take the setting, the basic idea of the monsters and weapons and stuff, and then just go balls-out nuts on it. Hell On Earth. And make it, you know, really solid and cool; fast paced as hell and really make it still feel like Doom, but still kind of pick up on Doom 3's bestiary and weapons.

And, of course, crack everything out to be more like the original game. Pinkies that are actually pink. Multiple Cyberdemons. Spider Mastermind. Revenants and shit.

Hell, go a step further; make it the merging of all id universes. Nazi zombies. Shamblers and shit popping out of dimensional vortexes. Fuck it.

>>1416726
Or it's just a working title, and not the final name.

I think I'm about the only one here excited for the new Wolfenstein. As for the new Doom... I liked Doom 3, if it's more of that I'll be content, if it's going to be a throwback to the original games that'll be awesome. I can't see them going Call of Duty on it, but you never know.

>>1416846
>Or it's just a working title, and not the final name.
Whenever it was talked about previously it was "Doom 4", now it's being called "Doom" in an announcement for it's beta release. I find it unlikely they'd change it to something else after this.

>>1416726
Or it's just a working title, and not the final name of the game.

I think I'm the only one here who's excited for the new Wolfenstein, it looks fun. As for doom, while it was certainly no Doom 1 or Doom 2, I still really liked doom 3, so if the new game is more of that I'll be content. If it's a throwback to the original games? Even better. I can't see Id codifying the game.

>Working on the new Vorpal Blade.

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

>>1416854
Weird, quoted the wrong person. That was meant for >>1416726

>>1416726
Don't like it, makes it harder to specifically find Doom and Doom 4.

>>1416317
>So you would make stalagmites as 3d objects hanging from the roof and not as sprites?

Yeah, and you could do a lot of little intermediate sectors between heights to make it look more natural. Just make them no smaller than 2 wide if you can avoid it, since 1-wide sectors can create slime trails. Slopes would be harder with the complex sectors, so do those after the ceiling and floor are merged.

>>1416857
>I think I'm the only one here who's excited for the new Wolfenstein, it looks fun.
Looks like an incredibly linear, heavily scripted corridor shooter.

>>1416857
>I can't see Id codifying the game.

well, supposedly they did codify Doom. which got the game scrapped and they started from scratch

>At a later time

So, Marty Kirra's time? Or Marnetmar's time?

>>1416886
What are you quoting

What is PirateFall

MartyKirra is finally hyping something so will he deliver

>>1416887

"At a later time" is all over the FAQ, it's the url posted in >>1416529

So a while ago zrrion made a Ranger sprite; somebody said they were working on a zombie version but I'm way too impatient, and if there's one thing I can do, it's edit other people's work to look awesome. Can't draw for shit, but I can edit like a boss.

Now if only I weren't so lazy that I can't cut the sheet up myself.

>>1416886

>Or Marnetmar's time?

#SHOTSFUCKINGFIRED

>>1416891
Oh I was thinking it was TSP related

>>1416892
oh and also I put the yellow lights from the muzzle flash on the shooting sprites because those were missing.

what IS piratefall

>>1416892
If you're using Photoshop you can add Slices and when you use Save For Web it'll export each chunk as its own image

>>1416912
I'm not using PS; I use an old-as-hell version of Paint Shop Pro. Does most of the same things, is very easily piratable (there is no copy protection at all), I've used it for years, and it's like 10 megs total so it fits on any flash drive. I can't do some of the more advanced stuff, but considering I only ever do Doom graphics and my album artwork, I've never needed anything else.

Kind of was just hoping someone else would slice it up and stuff it in a WAD with offsets, but that's unlikely to happen, so I'll have to do it myself.

>>1416919
>>1416892
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76650/Spricer.7z

>>1416892

Download Alferd's Spritesheet Unpacker, that program will automatically slice sprites from a spritesheet very easily

>>1416923
>>1416924
It's not even the slicing part that bothers me, it's all those fucking offsets. SLADE doesn't seem to have any "batch offsets" or "import offsets" anything to even remotely make it faster/easier.

>>1416929
>tfw no import offsets

>>1416858

Oh my. Who's making this?

>>1416749
>>1416742
I would be fine with it if it ended up like quake or doom with faster player speed and more weapons being projectile rather than hitscan.

That's not going to happen though. ;_;

>>1416965
>I would be fine if it was a good game
Well I mean, so would I.

>>1416965

It's gonna be an edgy, gridmark remake with them taking notes from Brutal Doom, the main character will be helmetless and will use the word fuck like a comma.

and this will be some people's first experience with Doom.

>>1415981
It was a single line in a two line lump

I jury rigged it to function and it's great now

Although chaingunners make pistol sounds now, but I feel that it's an improvement

>>1416959
Eriance

>Not colouring your sprites in isolated ranges for painless translation for the sake of variety
Why wouldn't you perform such a feat

>>1416969
>and this will be some people's first experience with Doom.

That's already happened plenty with Brutal Doom's popularity. Take it from an RE fan though it usually stings no matter the outcome.

I'm about ready to give up. I can't get any custom iwad to run. zdl/gzdoom keeps saying I can't run any of them because shareware. After 115 hours of gametime I've never run into this problem, and I can't figure out any way to fix it. I've tried reinstalling doom 1 and 2, gzdoom, and zdl but nothing works.

>>1417010
doom the way id did is not an iwad

not all wads are iwads please stop

>>1417010
everything with a couple of exceptions (HacX, Action Doom 2) is a pwad, which is run with an iwad.

>>1417018
>>1417021

And now I feel completely stupid. This is what I get for taking a year break. I just remember having them all listed on the right, instead of loading them up on the left.

Excuse my stupidity.

>>1416517
They decided to let their forum goers write for them some time ago, at which point the site was consumed by liberal cancer.

>>1416383
>RV-007
>being a faggot

What else is new?

>>1416383
>>1416517
>>1417030
>>1416613
>>1416649
>>1417038
keep it in /v/

>>1416981

That guy really knows his way around weapon sprites. I might have to ask and see if he can make a sword for GMOTA, as I still got another character to implement later on.

>>1417142
How can you have a second character when the first character has so many things to work with already?

>>1417147
If there is a will there is a way
Probably changing of stats and/or probably a different approach with weapons

>>1417154
Will it be a girl?
Arcade games liked having a girl as a second player.

>>1417142
He won't be able to. Eriance doesn't really do requests, and mostly only works on his own shit. He also knows his way around enemy sprites too--he's the one who made all the really awesome shit on R667 like the Hellion, Wicked, Overlord, Hierophant, etc.

He's also half-cancelled Demon Eclipse like four times and, I think, is going through med school right now. So, not a lot of spare time, especially to work on someone else's bullshit.

>>1417142
At least make sprites that don't cut off when you're going widescreen first.

>>1417172
unless you pay hourly

>>1417147

Simple, make the second character have a different gameplay focus: Lord Blaz is about having lots of subweapons, whereas Kuros will be more about gaining momentum: Weak at first but eventually becoming a walking buzzsaw.

I'm also gonna give him a Battletoads style kick, like you know that CRUNCH and those particles that go flying out when you finish off enemies with a boot in Battletoads? Kuros is getting that. His sword will also be different as well, striking only once per swing but it'll have greater reach than Lord Blaz's broadsword.

>>1417159

Nah, I want another guy, particularly this guy in pic related

>>1417170

Already fixed that. the throwing animation for the arms look better, as does the shield.

>>1416313
I think he means do your height variation for the floors first, then draw new sectors for height variance in the ceiling overtop and change them one variation at a time (so you aren't just trying to keep your sectors straight in your head)

I would also put some breaks in the ceilings and walls occasionally to make it feel like there is in outside world as well. Kinda like pic, but with more cave to sky ratio probably.

>>1416363
They're actually my favorite. Though they are a little clusterfucky sometimes.

>>1416278
Those are fighting words, son.

>>1417189
sweet

>>1417228
Project name?

>>1417189
>Nah, I want another guy
>tfw never get to play as a 9/10 qt asskicker

>>1417264

Sorry pal. I can't recall any female medieval heroes in any of the games I've played growing up, and GMOTA is essentially a tribute to all of those games that influenced me, Lord Blaz is a combination of every fantasy game ever made by Capcom, and Kuros is... Kuros. From Wizards and Warriors.

>>1416372
Have you tested them in software rendering to see how the lighting changes on them? Might end up looking too brown in some lighting, losing the pinkish flesh coloring.

>>1417262
Doesn't have one yet. It's a short map set I started a while ago, but got sidetracked on. Really I have one mission to finish, then a boss fight...

Planned on making a new boss monster for it (I've posted it's design before, and even some of it's creation), but again: Sidetracked. I might finish the sprites anyway and release those on their own, since I'd have to learn doom scripting to get anywhere with it anyway, and that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

>>1417271
You're directly basing parts of the mod off Magic Sword, which has a female for Player 2.

>>1417293

Player 2 was a dude with a halberd you doofus.

The amazon was a random helper you could enlist

>>1417271
You never played Golden Axe?
I guess Tyris wasn't limited to player 2 though.

D&D arcade had Elf and Thief.

>No weapon draw animations
Are you putting actual effort into being uninteresting?

Things to think about.

can you think of a mod comparable to drinking gravy in feel

>>1417304

Golden axe wasn't too big in my childhood, but when I got around to it I was all about Gilius fucking Thunderhead.

The D&D arcade I was lucky enough to have a local video store have it for a short time, but I always played as the fighter. Either way, GMOTA's roster is probably only to consist of two dudes, sorry.

>>1417372

I want a drawing animation for the swords and wand, but with the limited sprites I got it'd look shitty

and thanks captcha for fucking eating my post

>>1417376
I was just stating girls in fantasy medieval games GMOTA guy.


>>1417373
Project MSX with Hellbound

>>1417264
Create a was, then. Isn't that why doom is so popular? Because of it's mod ability?

>>1417383
that isn't was, then.

>>1417264
>tfw never get to play as a 9/10 qt asskicker

When /vr/ was relatively new I requested a girl punching sprite for Eriguns.

I got it, then slapped a female HUD face and player sprite and now I can play all my favorite Doom mods as Doomgirl.

If I can do it then you can too because I know dick about modding.
Even needed help getting the transparency working properly for the punching hand.

>>1416825
Man, instead of a plushie, I want a Doomguy nendoroid. Could see it coming with quite a few additional parts.

>>1417385
Holy hell. Create a was!

>>1417391
That why doom is so popular: Ability.

>>1417391
Autoclave, I'm not kidding!
Create a W A D

>This will never

>>1417395
Is that power armor or is that a HEV suit thing?

Looks great.
Where'd this come from?

>>1417395

Those hands are fucking masterwork. God damn.

>>1417397
<Eriance> and the mod that will never be started http://imgur.com/9Bwi7x7
<Eriance> it was for "NYX"
<Eriance> basically a successor to DE without the Doom
<Eriance> so all the weapons ar epretty much the same
<Eriance> it anime based

"I was going to call it "NyX" but I'm reserving that for another mod I started which was build off of DE and SEED (as soon as I get DE/HF out of the way)." http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397&start=3720#p705438

>>1417407
Not sure what SEED is.

Would have liked to seen more power armor hands that look rad as shit though

I'm curious as to how this works exactly. If I take the engine, use some of the WAD/map creators and create my own completely original game with no source art/music from Doom can I release it and charge money for it (as long as I release it with the same license as the engine)? Or how exactly does this all legally work?

>>1417424
release wad / pk3, clarify that they're paying for the wad / pk3

http://zdoom.org/About

ZDoom may be used and distributed free of charge. No profit may be made from the sale of it.

might want to ask Randy himself if you can put ZDoom in the package

>>1417424
>>1417429
I'm gonna point out that that's kind of a shitty, faggot thing to do. If you're gonna do that, do it in Unity or something, it's just as easy.

>>1417447
why is it all of that ignorant shit you just said? both are free engines.

>>1417424
Yes, but you'd sell just the iwad.

>>1417447
>>1417429
Action Doom 2 did it.

Just thought I'd share a digital painting I did while taking a break from playing.

I wish I could get into pixel stuff. I'd love to make textures and learn to map.

>>1417458
just paint little

>>1417458
Then get into it. Read a little about it, start doing doodles in your free time. No point wishing if you don't do anything about it.

>>1417304
I always did like playing as the amazon, even if Gilius was leaps and bounds better with most attacks.

Magic Sword, eh? That game was pretty cool back in the day, though I was never very good at it. Dragon dude throwing spears as backup was pretty badass.

had my friend make a unique weapon sprite for the boomerang, think this looks okay or should I ask him to tweak it?

>>1417469

The lizardman was my favorite partner, next to the Knight. Those guys were badass.

>>1417469
why is she fighting Hell in a bikini

fucking videogames

>>1417475

Don't you know anything about fantasy vidya? Bikini armor has as much defensive value as a full suit of plate armor.

>>1417475
She only has a white bikini, but wants a red one, so she uses the blood of her enemies to make a red one.

>>1417048
I looked up the deleted posts in the archive and I was disappointed to see nothing controversial at all.
Don't you like swear words? Or do you pretend to be objective and reasonable and just against things you dont like if they're against your own bias?

report and ignore

>>1417471
Looks good. Maybe put a harsher highlight on one side of the rim of it. Make it "pop"

>>1417475
Have you never seen a Frazetta painting?

>>1417498

You mean on one of the edges? Would you say the inner or outer edge?

>>1417498

Do you mean like this?

>>1417469
What wad am I looking at?

>>1415510

>>1417512

Here we go, he also added a few more frames

>>1417469
Same reason He-man or barbarian warriors wear their underwear into battle, mobility.

Just consider it women getting equal treatment.

>>1417536
knights could actually move pretty good in full armour

there was a video of someone doing rolls, going up and down ladders, doing jumping jacks, etc but it was french so i'm having trouble finding it

>>1417532
Wait a second.
Does the code of the boomerang just invert its speed to go back in a straight line or does it seek the owner to make it like a real boomerang?

>>1417556
i remember him saying the boomerang acted pretty much like the cross in castlevania

>>1417556

-this- boomerang is gonna behave castlevania's cross, as in it flies forward, then goes backward.

If all goes well there's gonna be another 3 boomerang type weapons and those ones will seek the owner.

I know this is an absolutely heretical question, but please don't hate me.

Are there any good wads/mods with cute things? Cute animals/girls/enemies and environments/whatever

>>1415510

My god the Quaker Oats guy just drops me every time I see it

>>1417569

None comes to mind other than that horrid crazy kat... thing that was made awhile back. A Kirby mod could be fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGkUBmBm8OY

and it'd still be cute

>>1417554
I'll believe you but you have to think about it in terms of you're fighting in a battle that could go for hours on end with no time to go through the whole routine or donning/removing your armor for breaks.

Seriously though, I myself would at least settle for some chainmail, good grief.

>>1417569
Well there is this

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=34376

Some anime girl follows you around and i'm sure it's so kawaii or whatever, but I didn't play it.

>>1417579
why does this exist

>>1417574
Yeah, I expected as much but I thought that I may as well ask considering how many mods and wads have been made over the years.

>>1417579
I guess I will check this out, though it sounds like a far cry from an overall cute spin on the game. Thanks anon.

That skylight...

>>1417581
I wondered the same thing but if it annoys pseudo righteous social justice warriors then that is at least something in it's favor.

>>1417595
>pseudo righteous social justice warriors
that sure came out of nowhere and should remain in nowhere

>>1417597
Please, they're they only people who actually start frothing at the mouth over this.
Usually followed by some Glen Beck style tactic of being like "oh I was just saying!".

>>1417505
outer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB1pFeAzAdg

>Bunch of solid red splotches on top of everything
Mod looks good

>>1417609

>>1417609
when will mark add deathshits

>>1417609
It'd look fine with a little more contrast.

Also I think the pixel size should match the mapgrid/wall texture pixels, but that's not really how doom goes I spose.

>>1417609

God damn that is gross. Over the top blood particles are okay but the guts getting splattered is too much.

Thanks for deleting that post, mod.

>>1417621
mod didn't delete it, the conversation has no place in /doom/ so i removed it

>>1417610
Actually now that I think about it that should read "doomguys and crash at 10% health.jpg"

>>1417625
It has no place on anywhere but the containment boards, and it is recommended that such topics remain there at all times.

>>1417615
This. They should be a bit darker.

Finally playing Evilution on Ultra-violent for real this time, since I never to got too far
Fucking awesome! I'm loving these maps! I'm going to play this again later with Brutal and MSX.

What's your opinion about FreeDoom? I played a couple of levels and I enjoyed a lot.

>>1417610

THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE

>>1417631
Many of the maps are great (The Map30 replacement is my personal favorite) but the sprites many of the sprites look weird. (The Cacometroid and that weird 3d demon imp thing replacing the Revenant)

>>1417631

FreeDoom has the funniest goddamn gibbing sound ever. It seriously sounds like someone going PURLCKKKKRLERL into a mic

>>1417609
Lol, this shits crazy.
To be honest though I wish Mark would make more maps, he made some good levels.

He deserved his last punishment but I would also lift his ban.

>>1417616
I think while Brutal started out as an attempt at being a bit more realistic with the violence it's not just gone full crazy town instead and become off the charts violent.
Not that I mind that.

>>1417631
I don't like it.

>>1417628
>>1417615
Should be more than that, it should have an actual texture instead of only a shape. How hard is it to add liquid highlights / shadows to a blood splatter
Even randomized shades of red

>>1417616
these guts textures are just edits of arachnotron's death sprites. There's no reason to find it gross.

>>1417647

Well I'm squeamish. Doom's normal gore doesn't bother me but Brutal's can get kinda nasty

>>1417628
>It has no place on anywhere but the containment boards, and it is recommended that such topics remain there at all times.

If you were in charge of any doom forum would you ban all divisive political talk, especially if it agreed with you own views?
Because that is at least respectably consistent.

>>1417639
> It seriously sounds like someone going PURLCKKKKRLERL into a mic

Funnily enough that is probably exactly what it was.

>>1415468
Paranoid is the name of the wad?
im new to doom. what are some good full blown campaigns nearly on par with doom 1 and 2?

>>1416564
it's from Ex Starbreeze devs, shooting doesnt require ADS, and theres only 25% regen health. mitebcool

>>1416726
Another reboot? Just how are Bethesda and new id going to fuck this up?

>>1417679
In a plethora of previously unimaginable ways

>>1417462
I attempted to learn mapping a while ago. (read: years)

The problem I had with it was I couldn't see what I was making without test running it. Is there anything like valve's hammer that lets you see real time what you're doing?

>>1417668
There are tons, but assuming you've played doom 1 and 2 and want another campaign like 2 you can play Evilution. If you think you've got some skills you can try Alien Vendetta, if you think you're even better and want to go much harder you can play Plutonia.

Then if you're really *really* good you can play Hell Revealed.
and if you're even better still, play map 24
and get under the par time

>>1417695
Doom Builder 2 has a visual mode.

In Zandronum, is the $limit for sounds in SndInfo reached by user or by the whole server

Like if the limit is 3 and the sound is playing in 5 locations on the map but a user is only close enough to hear 3, will that user hear the 3 just fine as if it wasn't surpassing the sound's limit?

>>1417679
Beth are terrible devs but they mitigate it a fair bit by releasing mod tools for everything that they make, so I have to give them that.

Morrowind was great for its time, I liked Oblivion (but the cracks were showing then) and Fallout 3 was......well I liked it at the time and had great fun with it but looking back (and after playing Vegas, yes I went there)........

Skyrim wowed me for it's time too but I think even the devs know they're uninspired now which is why they put the tools out and have the community do more work.

I'm harsher on Beth than other devs too because they are so big they have less excuses to screw up, plus they have been using the same engine for bloody ages now and it's still buggy as fuck.

They also forced Obsidian to push out New Vegas 6 months early, a big sin in my book.

Dark times ahead, fellow Doomers........they now are in charge of ID.

What pisses me off the absolute most though? The MOST?

We will see videos soon from heapf of randoms in the Doom dev team all saying "oh yeah man we love doom!" and you know full well they probably dont give a shit either way, yeah it's fan rage from me but if they were honest and said "nah we dont play doom now" I would at least respect their honesty. It's the lying that will put me off.

>>1417707
Bethesda isn't the dev, dude

>>1417707
Bethesda rushed the devs

Supposedly it was on purpose so they didn't have to pay the devs a bonus for getting an A rating or something rather

>>1417554
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q

>>1417712
>heel click

>>1417695
>The problem I had with it was I couldn't see what I was making without test running it. Is there anything like valve's hammer that lets you see real time what you're doing?

Dude.......you're yeaaaaaars behind the times.

Pic related, this is a simple example. The above is in the drawing mode and the below image is in the visual mode where I can see what I'm doing physically in the level without running the game.
This has been out for ages now, specifically I'm using GZDoom Builder, an addon for regular Doom Builder 2.

http://www.doombuilder.com/

There is a link, GZDoom Builder is linked in the right hand side panel.

>>1417707
>We will see videos soon from heapf of randoms in the Doom dev team all saying "oh yeah man we love doom!" and you know full well they probably dont give a shit either way

Most behind-the-scenes footage is bullshit anyway

>The Hobbit
>Guys from Weta Workshop claiming making the movie was fun and everything
>There was a worked-up employee who climbed up to the top of a set and was planning to jump off it
>Gandalf's actor breaking down and shit

Etc

I remember in an earlier thread that somebody claimed they playtested the upcoming Doom, perhaps his post may a hint of truth regarding how it'll be similar to Rage? Until footage comes out out we won't know

>>1417709
Sorry, I should have clarified that you're right.
They're the publishers, giving oversight.

>>1417710
Would not surprise me those fucking pricks.
Want real rage fuel?

>http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=15410

That collates all the stuff from New Vegas that had to be cut because they were rushed.

>Playing EDF2025
>Those spear weapons for Fencer

Man I wish it was in Doom it's so fucking awesome.

I'm thinking about adding another healing item the replace the invisibility spheres, because they suck and god spheres, seeing as they're broke in GMOTA

Arcane chicken: big boost of life and arcane energy (sword mana)

mystic wine: big boost of life and mystic energy (wand mana)

Thoughts?

>>1417712
That's a good video but I'd hate to wear that for hours on end.
Imagine doing a full 40-60 minute exercise routine in that armor, it would be really exhausting and it would trap in much of the heat.

It's like how guys doing really high risk arrest warrants can get kitted up in huge amounts of armor because they might only be wearing it for half an hour.
That said it at least does a good job of dispelling that fucking annoying myth of knights not being able to get up if they're in their armor.

>>1417724
Apparently Carmack said it was shit, good thing too.
It may still well be shit but if even Carmack notices shitty gameplay....damn.

Why are so many devs fucking terrified of making older style shooters for fucks sake?

Painkiller absolutely kicked arse, Hard Reset was fun too. Never played ROTT or Serious Sam but I heard nice things about them as well and this is just to name a handful.

>>1417712
-100% Stealth. Holy shit.

On the plus side you scare the shit out of anyone who can hear it coming. (which is everyone)

>>1417579

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ9gxCgA3gw

I think I broke DOOM

>>1417775
but why does it

>>1417775
Looks like it's still needs bug removal but with the way people were talking about it in that thread you'd think it was a porno mod.

It's just anime girl #1000000 following you around making boring dialogue and giving medikits.

>>1417775
Everything looks normal to me.

>>1417752
The ROTT remake I didn't like because of the fucktarded movement; there is almost no acceleration at all so you can go top speed in no time and thus very easily overshoot platforming sections...which are abundant. Also, fuckloads of hitscan enemies.

However, those who played the original claim it's quite accurate.

Serious Sam TFE/TSE HD are great. SS2 is average at best, SS3 actually has some modern elements in it (sprinting, many hitscan enemy types, and three reloading guns) but most of them only exist in the first third/half of the game and other than that there's not that many other problems.

And there are people making more classic-styled shooters, but they're mostly shit and mostly multiplayer.

>Wrack, made by former Skulltag lead Carnevil, is coming along slowly, currently the closet thing to Doom though with jumping, but enemy design is meh
>The freeware game Nexuiz got licensed to Illfonic, who made a mediocre FPS published by Ubisoft with regenerating health and mandatory Mario Party-like mutators that happen on a player's whim, it's not on Steam anymore
>Chroma is a recent new one who claims to be such a game though based around music, but it fucking ruined the trailer's build-up with dubstep shit, no like seriously go look at it
>There's that one I forgot the name of that is designed to be built around competitive play, with CPMA-like movement planned
>Xonotic, which is just a community continuation of the freeware Nexuiz with less AIDS
>The guys making Dustforce are making Spire, an FPS which is partially inspired by pro CPMA players that can do mad trickjumps and has leaderboards in mind
>Cliffy B wants to make an arena FPS, probably trying to stay relevant

I'm sure there's more, but that's off the top of my head.

>>1417793

Those imps weren't very friendly, saying bad words and stuff.

also what's up with that silly image sticking as a sprite rather than just when you prompt dialogue

FUCK SPRINTING, I don't mind it in a world war 2 shooter like DoD but in CoD and that trash its so bad when you can go from a full sprint to dead accuracy in .01 seconds. I was playing half life 2 deathmatch with my friend the other day and christ its horrible since you have a meter so its just the slowest fucking deathmatch I ever played. I used to enjoy it quiet a bit but since I've been playing lots of doom dm everything else just seems like shit.

>>1417765
Especially if you're in a huge group.

Both would suck but melee combat always freaked me out more than shooting does. Just imagine standing in a huge line waiting for a bit battle, knowing you're all going to charge into eachoter and stab one another to death.

Then again, the thrill you would get from winning and screaming your insane fury on the bodies of your enemies surrounded by your cheering friends would be pretty boss.

>>1417794

>Cliffy B wants to make an arena FPS, probably trying to stay relevant

I got no respect for Cliffy B anymore. Fuck that guy. Spire might be cool though. we need more shooters with weapons as fucking wild as Painkiller and Bulletstorm, though bulletstorm's altfires were retarded seeing as altfire only preps the shot itself, then you hit primary. That always confused me

>>1417801

Doom 1 and 2 handle sprinting the best, you toggle run mode on or off. Simple as that.

>>1417805
Sprinting should be even faster than running

I don't have time for this weak mutual jo shit i've got switches to dank

>>1417805
It's always on anyway the toggle is there just to be flashy. Strafe running faster than rockets is pretty fun too, I hate smoking noobs at deathmatch that havent learned to move yet. I dont want to discourage them from playing doom but I dont want to go soft on them either so they actually git gud. I want the DM community to expand but its hard to get new players even though the learning curve isnt nearly as bad as quake.

Should I play "vanilla" Brutal Doom or the Sperglord Edition thing?
Not trying to start shit or anything, honest question.

>>1417794
I really think much of it comes from devs thinking "oh we still need to include some "modern shooter" elements in it" instead of just throwing caution to the wind and going all out on it so then it becomes a shitty fusion and old school games get the blame.

Painkiller has none of this sprint meter, stamina, reloading garbage and it's better for it.

>>1417805
I hated Unreal Tournament 3. What I said above is in a similar vein.

Where are the bright colors, where is the SPEED?

>>1417821
sperg

>>1417819

UT3 suffered from the same problem Gears had: Fatass space marines dragging their bulk around. Bulletstorm had that too, like to me it felt like People can Fly wanted to make a sci-fi painkiller but Epic came in and wiped their ass all over it. Hence the brown.

>>1417821

Sperg. Abuse the kick, it's amazing.

>>1417824
>>1417828
Okay, thanks. Btw, GMOTA guy, loving your mod so far.

>>1417828
>Fatass space marines dragging their bulk around

Good description, it's like they're still trying to stay grounded in gritty reality.
If I want closer to reality I'll play F.E.A.R and if I want closer still I'll play ARMA.

>>1417819
I'm not sure if it's that or if Croteam wanted to deliberately piss off people that way. It doesn't really feel like a Sam game until later on when you get a bigger inventory of weapons to render your reloading ones obsolete and that smaller enemies are phased out slowly for bigger ones, thus bigger stages.

Fuck the monkeys and those psychic witches, though. They stagnate the gameplay and I hope SS4 improvises in this area the most.

Best thing out of it was making AR ammo separate from minigun ammo

>>1417821
Sperglord, easily. More features.

>>1417828
Don't forget all of that fucking bloom. This is what the game looks like on Extreme post-processing.

I'd still prefer wider characters like in Quake 3 and UT games than realistic ones in this type of gameplay, though. Quake 4 felt really weird with taller characters.

>>1417838

Thank you, that sorta stuff means a lot to me.

>>1417842

at least FEAR had sliding and cool kung fu moves your character could do.

>>1417847

that image.

>>1417847
Holy fuck nuggets how far are they going to take this damned bloom effect

>>1417847
such processing
much realism

>>1417847
>Bloom

Defect example of "If a bit of something is good, a lot is not necessarily better" and this applies to all things from vidya to politics.

If I were to use bloom in a level I'd use it very sparingly, eg: You leave underground for a bit and it's bright as fuck and bloomy outside and then you go back underground and it's normal again.

>>1417863
Defect?
I mean "Perfect"

>>1417851
>>1417853
>>1417857
>>1417863
And this is either muted or default, can't remember as it's been a while since I last played. It's much more bearable, but yes, bloom is bloom, though disabling it disables some neat lighting effects on the gun models. Out of what UT3 offers, the aesthetics of the guns were kinda neat.

>>1417869
Yeah the guns were cool, but if the movement is worse than UTK4.......whats the point?

I feel like I'm playing a mutator of a tryhard realistic game, not a game that goes it's own way without a care for reality.

>>1417878
Wrong image, not that I think HL is tryhard realistic, I think it's awesome.

YOOO, Guess what videos were just uploaded to the SpeedDemosArchive Youtube channel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECxH7XxjP6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-oCTd45Wys

They will also be added to the /doom/ playlist very soon

So I have a question for you all about monster arenas.

They're big fights but how can I include one that is a big huge fight does not make the player think it is a slaughterfest?

I understand many players get pissed off when a normal level turns into a slaughterfest

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044

A DoomRL weapons mod, for Doom.
We've come full circle.

>>1417943
>They're big fights but how can I include one that is a big huge fight does not make the player think it is a slaughterfest?
1)Do not spawn more than 40 powerful enemies[anything that has more health than a Hellknight],if you want to spawn a bunch of enemies,use cacodemons,pinkies,imps and soldiers[chaingunners,shotgunners also included]
2)Do not make the whole .wad to become slaughterfest after 10 maps,have a balance between arenas,corridors,bases and huge non-arenas maps[think in E3M2]
3)Do not make the wad itself to rely on the BFG,make sure players can beat the wad without it
and the most important step
4)Only make the Mission 8 in every episode to be either a boss fight or a big slaughterfest arena,then return to normal
oh,and a small advice,in small maps,make sure you put monsters that can combine their attacks[Archvile+chaingunner or Cacodemon+Pinky+imp+zombie waves or the Bruiser family or Pain elementals+revenants]

So I'm getting some really unusual framerate issues with Doom lately, like the framerate will just drop to unplayable levels. Is there any settings in GZDoom that might affect this at all?

>>1417962
Texture antialiasing, maybe?

>>1417943
Make it somewhat wave-based. Like say, have the room start with a mix of monsters, then progressively open up walls and elevators around it to introduce more to surround the player. Combine low to mid tier enemy types and structure cover so it's more like an arena, to get the player thinking whilst applying pressure.

Speaking of which, I wonder if there are any elevator-centered levels made for G/ZDoom, as well as ones with destroyable walls and shit; you could use voxels for the latter, if it's possible.

>>1417725
>Almost all the 'cut content' was just beta shit that didn't work right, was unplayable on consoles, or was just bad ideas that didn't need to be in the final game.
>Rage fuel
It's an interesting read, but doesn't really strike a strong case. The best shit cut like the single-area freeside and strip were restored with mods anyways. I'm not the biggest fan of Bethesda, but you can do far worse.

>>1417967
It was mainly about character depth and quests instead of extra guns and areas. Plus there would be way less bugs.

Benny for example would come back if you set him free (again) in the camp and basically tell the player what a fucking idiot they were for constantly letting him go and to realize that some people are just bastards beyond reform.

I got the GOTY version of fallout 3 (modded it too) but could not play it again despite my great go of regular 3 years ago, Vegas just shows how shit Beths writing is.

>>1417968
Not sure. Where would I find that in the settings?

Also, Doom just made my laptop fucking crash, I don't know what its problem is. It's been having these crazy framerate issues the past few days, I mean I'm just fucking playing on Genesis of Descent with Project MSX. It's not exactly demanding, even for my laptop.

>>1417513
That's stock Armageddon 2 Invasion, semi-mindless mowing down of waves of enemies. Used to be really popular but I haven't really seen servers populated as much these days.

The amazon is just a player skin from the vrskins wad, there's a version on best-ever.org's site, just look for the WAD file and throw it into a folder in your Zandronum driectory called "skins".

>>1418000
Display setting > Opengl settings > Antialiasing and anisotropic filtering, iirc.

>>1418005
Don't see any options for antialiasing... Gonna turn anisotropic filtering off though. I have no idea what it does, but maybe it'll help.

>>1417956
Nice advice but I'm only making 1-2 levels tops atm.

The weaker monsters point makes more sense, you can quickly mow down hordes if they're weaker but nobody wants to slog through a hundred revenants.

>>1417969
Wave based is possible, but less so with scripting and more with off map monster pens with the monsters all moving towards a teleporter to the arena.

>>1418012
It's the texture filter thing. Trilinear can be bad for fps if there's a lot of blood and shit on the map and you play on an old pc.

It's Done

>>1418025
Oh yeah, I have that totally turned off

>>1418029
I like it.

>>1418029
fuckingawesome.jpg

Are there any sprite replacement mods like Eriguns or Perkistans Smooth Weapons?

>>1418029
I don't get drawing only the grip as a startup frame

Wouldn't that look awkward in a 16:9/16:10 resolution? It was also a thing that irritated me a bit in Hexen

Hey GMOTA dude,i played your mod [cool stuff btw] and i analyzed 2 things
1)This mod is perfect for slaughterwads
2)Subweapons are cool,some underpowered but useful

But i feel that the super weapons[or whatever you call the special attacks] lack a power up for subweapons,like making subweapon attacks stronger when you are using the special attacks,do you have anything in mind related to this?
Also,what else are you going to add to the mod aside of the second character you mentioned earlier?

>>1418132
analized*

ahem...

>>1418074

there's Demonicron which is being worked on; it's just a monster sprite replacement mod for now but it was promised to be a full-fledged graphic replacement mod

>>1418141
Demonicron with Eriguns is nice as is. Would like to see both complete(And with autoshotgun god damn it)

>>1418132

Which subweapons do you feel are underpowered?

and I have no plans for powering up subweapons, partially because I can't think of anything interesting for them other than "Crank the damage up and give them a pretty effect"

But I plan on adding some powerups you can pick up to replace the power forms of the sword and wand.

As for other shit to add? I eventually want to add a music randomizer, maybe make hitscan enemies projectile based, and look into bringing back temporary powerups. Glad you like the mod, Scroton, Term, and the other /vr/ doomers here really have helped me out.

>>1418151
>Which subweapons do you feel are underpowered?
axe is kinda underpowered,yea it instagibs some monsters but the range is what kills it
spear is cool but slow
wand spells[aside of clusterbomb] are powerful but they are a bit slow[lightning] or miss a lot[ring] and sometimes it dry out the red magic,still it instagibs a lot
You have a point though,making them only more powerful is not enough[and to be honest,subweapons are powerful enough]
Also,i was the guy that suggested something about GMOTA on HeXen&Heretic,i regret it,you are super ultra broken in HeXen with the mod,nothing will kill you

We need some ghouls cs humans servers, I just played with some friends and it was fun as fuck

>>1418173

Aim up with the hatchet, and pace your throws, you can completely wreck shit with it if you take advantage of how bouncy they are, chakrams are at their best in tight corridors, though I'll admit it I don't use that spell often.

What's the problem with the cluster missile? too weak? Not enough splash radius? and I'm contemplating shortening the lightning spell's windup even more because I'll agree that the slow windup is a pain in the ass.

>>1418184
no,the damn clusterbomb is the BFG of your mod

>>1418194

Really? The power sword is the BFG in my eyes, that cleave attack -is- a BFG spray, meaning you can hit everything in your view with it, and the beam can fucking destroy everything.

>>1418196
How strong are the clusterbombs exactly?

Like maximum damage output.
BFG doesn't always mean the same design as the BFG9000 after all.

The Cannon in Serious Sam is the BFG of Serious Sam for example.

>>1418215

well uh, let's see here, when the missile explodes there's a 7 frame animation, each frame triggers an explosion that has a radius of 200 and does 25 damage, so that's a grand total of 175 per shot.

Could someone who follows Doomworld more closely than I do explain to me why TNT:Devilution has been forked?

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/67453-tnt-revilution-official-project-announcement/

>>1417775
what is this and why does it exist

>>1418220
You set it to always do 25 damage or does it have Doom's damage variation?

I wouldn't imagine the BFG to do only 175 damage.

>>1418230

well I used the basic formula for a_explode so I'm assuming it uses the random formula.

>>1418236
>>1418230

A_Explode is not random.
25 is the maximum damage it will have, assuming the opponent is at the very center, not the minimum that will be multiplied by a random amount.

>>1418268

Well for the max radius thing I set it to 200 as well, so if I did this right that means as long as a monster is within the radius, they're gonna get the full brunt of the blast.

i think i just started up a pointless topic,what i mean with GMOTA Clusterbombs being the BFG of the mod,i meant that they wreck everything when i keep shooting them,not that with 1 shot i blow the fuck out of everything

>>1418227

The short of it: Drama

Now, the long of it (and as far as my knowledge goes): KiiiYiiiKiiiA had an account before ("kyka"; you can notice he credits himself in the mapslots as that nick instead of his account name) which got losered for gawd knows what, and THEN he made that one; apparently he has (or had), as KiiiYiiiKiiiA, a pending warning regarding "losering evation"

What did he do to obtain an explanation and solve this dilemma?

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post-hell/67096-tnt2-dramalution/

He took the ball (his maps) and went home. Shitflinging ensued in the project thread and he ended up with a warning. And now I see this, finally confirming that he just created another project with all of his stuff

>>1418290
Oh yes, I knew kyka and kiiiiyiiiiiiii were the same person. But that seems like an unrelated issue that was resolved last month (I had read the thread after it was helled)

This seems like a different thing though. For some reason he's taken his maps out of the original and has announced he is working on a fork.

>>1418229
An anime girl that follows you around giving you medical kits and rockets that you talk to with a dialogue system.
Some frame showed a pixel boob so the social justice taliban cried and linked to cracked.com, making the issue look important and divisive when it's not.

I have never spoken to Vaecrius but his posting is starting to annoy me, his vehement views on what makes a good map annoy me as he thinks that if it's any way other than the way he likes it's objectively bad.
He's not SgtMKIV "telling kids to kill themselves" level bad, but he's annoying.

Regarding the wad item itself, something useful may be gleaned from it's DECORATE but aside from that I dont care about anime.

>>1418336
>Some frame showed a pixel boob so the social justice taliban cried and linked to cracked.com,

what

>>1418336

isn't Vaecrius the guy behind Hideous Destructor? I heard something about him removing the fist from his mod because of "gender ambiguity" except he made his mod's melee system really fucking weird because there's no animations for punching.

>>1418340
>I heard something about him removing the fist from his mod because of "gender ambiguity" except he made his mod's melee system really fucking weird because there's no animations for punching.

Don't you make the normal Doomguy voice when you get damaged anyways?
Sounds kinda bullshit.

>>1418337
This board is SFW but go to the project thread and it's in the screenshots, they're spoilered.
Don't expect anything amazing, we're talking a few pixels of boob - hardly controversial.

>>1418340
>I heard something about him removing the fist from his mod because of "gender ambiguity" except he made his mod's melee system really fucking weird because there's no animations for punching.

*yawn*, true or no it would not surprise me. This PC religion really needs to go away, especially it's strawman that if you're not with it you're some religious theocratic working for the penisocracy.
Why not make another skin then? Simples.

It would be perfect if in the forums doom only was talked about but it needs to be enforced, then if you allow talk from one side but ban the other it just annoys everybody with social justice types trying to be gatekeepers of what is acceptable and what is not.

If I knew somebody would 100% agree with my ever political opinion if I released a map to them and they might like it more that way, I would still not want them to know. Doom material should be just about the material as is, appreciating it for what it is.

Knowing irrelevant political opinions only stifles appeal, Sergeant MKIV is a perfect example (though he kind of blabbed on about his).

I'm not going to release a map and say "by the way guys, my boyfriend and I love eachother very much and I hope you support gay marriage with me".
I just want people to enjoy my map as it is.

>>1418363

>*yawn*

>>1418369
I even said I was going to delete it when I finished the paragraph, only remembering it was there when I hit enter.

>>1418363
It wasn't the breast I was going "wat" over, it was more the reaction.

I mean, it's just a breast, right, all women have them, in one form or another, right?

I figure even the youngest teens must have seen breasts before, so I can't imagine that it would be "shocking" to anyone on there, or here.

Sure, the mod looked like shit, but I can't imagine why someone would be upset over one, low res, hard to make out, breast.

>>1418563
You would be surprised, mentioning the community that hates this stuff tends to draw the evil eye, though I think you know the types of people that hate it besides religious theocrats.

Some people just want an excuse to get righteously angry, shriek for mods and try to act all morally superior over any bullshit issue they can find.

>>1418564
Then why don't they go to tumblr, /pol/, Jezebel, or any other awful political echo chamber to scream and throw tantrums? Nobody comes to the fucking ZDoom forums to talk politics.

>>1418574
Long story short they're a religious group and they need the followers. Modern political correctness/social justice is a religious cult and if you're not all aboard with them, you're "the other"

Check this out
>http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-19/twisted-motives-behind-political-correctness

I go there for economic news but now and then they have quest posts and I happened to see this just today.

I'm reminded of years ago, being "congratulated" by one of these types over hanging out with a guy who is still my lifelong friend because he has dark skin.....apparently, I pick friends based on their skin color, not on the fact we both love vidya games.

Hey guys.

I'm trying to set up a zombie server (with the CoD-like zombie WAD) except whenever I start the gave it says "you have 30 seconds (or whatever) until the infection starts" and there's no way to escape it because once the timer reaches zero, you die anywhere you go. Anyone know the reason it's doing this?

Thanks!

>>1418074
Those are neither sprite replacement mods.

But look up an unfinished mod called Stomper and gank the weapons from it.

What .wad is this?

>>1418782
...I would also like to know

>>1418782
>>1418798

https://www.mediafire.com/?qlx530ai8vyahak

Got my Doomguy plushie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lGgBlvq6hw

>>1417734
As long as the chicken is still alive, then go for it.

If anybody knows it's you guys. I want to make a 4 player coop game using a Quake/Doom engine. Currently I'm looking at Q3. Has anybody done this you know of? Would love some suggestions

>>1416270
>go to console
>sv_cheats 1
>noclip

So I want to make a total conversion WAD. Any good guides on how to do that?

>>1419118

Make sure you have the next year or two free, then get crackin'.

>>1419121
Nah, I wanted to make something simple. How do I start?

>>1419129
Total conversions aren't simple nigga.

>>1419135
Well, shit

Greetings /vr/.

Its been a while since i sat down and srsly got some dooming.

I'm not kinda moved on with the whole modding thing but recently started again.
I haven't touched sprits since 2008.

Its a small simple project, mostly regular weapons replacements, but I want to add a unique melee "fists".

Anyone knows any good melee systems?


pic very much related

>>1419146
Melee systems?

Basic combos: ww-Diaz fists
Fancy combos that mimic DMC1 a little: Zen Dynamic's machete
Combos and gun swapping cancels: Space Pirate

>>1419138
>>1419121
>>1419129
>>1419135

Well let me elaborate what they're saying.

Replacing all of the assets in zdoom with other assets is fairly easy, so is monster behavior and gameplay. Making that gameplay and monster behavior balanced takes a good deal longer unless you've had a lot of experience.

What takes a long, long time is actually creating those assets you're replacing the doom assets with.

So, creating a TC for some other 90s doom clone fps: fairly easy if a bit time consuming but a couple of months should have a polished completed project. Even easier if your "TC" uses community doom assets rather than having to redo decorate for everything.

Creating a TC from scratch, or even just new modifications for all the doom monsters: takes a long ass time. Look at Demon Eclipse for an idea of how long it will take.

>>1419148
i remember Zen, I was gonna use that but I think thiers a better option.


space pirate?
any vid or dl of this?

>>1419148
i think space pirates might be it.

some based on fighting game style.

>>1419151
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcpvVfygADo

I thought it was fun.

Still waiting for the next version of TSP.

>>1419129
Make sure you can sprite, or know someone who can, and is willing to put in the effort to make:

-At LEAST 5 entirely new weapons
-Entirely new monster sprites; you need at LEAST 5 rotations for every frame of the monster sprite except death frames. You'll need, at the very least, 4 walking frames, 2 attack frames, and 2 different death states. If any of the monsters are asymmetrical (like the Chaingunner), they should have 8 full rotations--but you can get away with 5, like the Zombieman and Shotgunguy.
-You'll need someone to CODE all that shit in DECORATE. This is actually the easiest part, and you can probably find someone to do this for you if you don't know how.
-You'll need someone to do maps. Considering you want to do a TC, you'll probably not want to do "vanilla" maps; you'll probably want to use some of the cool advanced ZDoom features like slopes, 3D floors, ACS scripting, etc. This can take a bit to learn.
-Also, since it's a TC, you'll need textures! The good part is, there's enough textures out there that you conceivably do not have to do this part all by yourself. You'll need a skilled graphic artist who can make them all seem consistent and stuff, though.

>>1419157
We all are, bro.

>dem shell types

Marty is a damn genius, if a bit of a tease.

>>1419165

Like the other anon said, this will easily take 1-2 YEARS of consistent work, at the LEAST. It will not be simple and easy. Also, as you do it, the quality of the work will increase--the first monster you make will likely look way worse than the last monster you make, leading to a kind of quality divide, and can lead you to constantly remaking everything. This is the problem Eriance and Demon Eclipse suffer from--the earliest version had all new sprites, and they were really good, but they got overused in other mods (because they were new content) and as he improved, his new stuff largely outclassed the old stuff, so the old stuff didn't look "right" anymore, and he had to redo it. By the time he redid it, the old new stuff was outclassed, so he had to redo that too, etc. etc. and now he's done new versions of the basic Doom weapons like 4 times now. (I can seriously find like 3-4 different plasma guns by the guy.)

Anyway, it'll take a long time AND you'll probably suck at it. If you want to do something "quick, simple and easy," do a vanilla-compatible mapset. The traditional "megawad" is to do 32 levels to replace all of them in Doom 2, but you don't have to do that, you can just do a handful of them--it can be any length you want. Vanilla maps are really easy to put together and test, and they're actually really fun to do.

If you want, I'm actually working on some vanilla maps of my own, so if you want, we can collaborate.

>>1419169
On the other hand, you can also do what the other guy said, and just replace the existing stuff with other currently-existing stuff. For example, I've got a little thing going now that replaces all the weapons and monsters with stuff from R667.

I think the best example of a TC is, really, Chex Quest.

>>1418363
>>1418369
>>1418371
>>1418563
>>1418564
>>1418574 >pot calling the kettle black
>>1418590
This is not /v/. Take it somewhere else.

>>1419170
I am more interested in the rocket launcher replacement.
Also chainsaw replacement maybe?

I like the shell types either way.

>>1419169
>The traditional "megawad" is to do 32 levels to replace all of them in Doom 2, but you don't have to do that, you can just do a handful of them--it can be any length you want.

I agree it can be any length you want, but it appears that the community "consensus" is that the original Doom got it right, so somewhere around 8-9 maps is a good stopping point where the work feels complete but doesn't drag on. This is also dependent upon map length too though.

>>1419180

I think a chainsaw would be redundant with how flexible her melee attacks are.

>>1419191
Note how I said chainsaw replacement, and not chainsaw.

It might be some new melee weapon entirely.

>>1419157
Fucking Perfect. Exactly what i'm looking for.

If i couldn't find it I would just made a simple weapon mod, but this is nice.

I'm trying my best to emulate the source material's style and its pretty tough.Been 6 years since i edited sprites, I'm just winging it

Fucking using GIMP and MSPAINT Gonna DL paint.net

pic related.

>>1419181
Right, but even Doom 2 is broken up into "episodes," or "clusters," you just don't actually stop and choose each of them. Which I always thought was dumb.

Anyway, TC Guy, if you want some help, I'm up for it. I can do DECORATE, mapping, minor sprite editing, whatever.

When you want something, ask for it. Don't waste their time with 20 minutes of questions.