/vr/ - Retro Games

Still looking for that purple yoshi, bro!

>>1374884

How many hidden yoshis are there? I still never unlocked white and black.
Can they be unlocked on trial mode or its only story mode?

>>1374881
>Is Yoshi's Story underrated?

Depends if a game should stand by its own merits or compared to its other iterations in the franchise.

>>1374890
>How many hidden yoshis are there?

iirc only black and white, don't know if they can be unlocked in trial

Its not that great. Doesnt have the fluidity or platforming of SMW2. Its also too easy. The graphics are nice though.

It's okay. It might get a little more hate than it deserves because it had to live up to Yoshi's Island (and couldn't), but even when you look at it on its own without comparing it to YI's, Yoshi's Story is still a very mediocre game. Only thing its got is its nice aesthetic.

I'd say it's underrated, yes. I don't think it's as good as Yoshi's Island, but it's also a different game, and I feel some people are wrong to instantly dismiss it for not being Yoshi's Island. There are of course people who dislike it for its own merits, but I do feel it's often bashed to too large an extent just for not being Yoshi's Island.

its a neat experiment but the game is so easy. once you sit down and do a melon-only run, there's not much left.

>>1374945
I actually never even bothered that; I didn't want to have to play the same levels multiple times to unlock the last 75% of the game.

The game isn't very good. It doesn't matter if you evaluate it on its own or compared to any other games in the series. It loses either way.

It's way too easy. Beating a Nintendo 64 game in like 20 minutes is NOT okay.

>>1374949

It has some design flaws (as others said, having to replay story mode multiple times to unlock all levels), and it's on the easy-side and the game is too cute for its own good sometimes, but I think it also has a lot of positive traits most people tend to ignore due to comparing it to Yoshi's Island and only playing story mode once.

I say we all can agree this is no Yoshi's Island, but it's not a bad game either.

Echoing the sentiments of those who have said it's a mediocre game even on it's own merits.

It's also the game where they changed Yoshi's design to look really stumpy, gave him that ball nose and that shitty voice they'd recycle over and over until Galaxy 2, so there's another few black marks against it.

>>1374962

>gave him that ball nose

I think that started on SMRPG.

I think the voices in Yoshi's Story are funny as hell, but yeah it got old when they used the same generic voices and constant "Yosheeeee" voices in later games with him. In Yoshi's Story they are actually funny, each Yoshi has its own voice, and they hum along the song's level and stuff... yeah, wayyyy too cute, I know

In Yoshi's Story's defence, remember the yoshis in the game are supposed to be baby yoshis, not adult ones.

I think many people assume the whole game is short because you only choose 1 level per world in story mode. really the main game is playing through every level in time trials and finding all the melons. It's a lot like finding all the yoshi coins in smw except 30 per level.

of course the game is still dirt easy because its about exploration, but whatever

like Sonic CD, game has a lot of depth and good design if "played the way it was meant to be played"

chain jumping things in some levels is surprisingly well thought out

you guys saying it's easy...try collecting everything and getting 30 melons on this fucker of a level then look at me with a straight face and say it

>>1375008
>Sonic CD
>good design if "played the way it was meant to be played"
The fuck are you talking about? The game was a fucking nightmare when played properly. The levels were designed to take you towards the goal, when you start trying to explore them, finding signposts and the machines, while also managing to build enough speed to timetravel is a fucking nightmare.

Sonic CD has fucking horrible design because it's trying to be one kind of game inside a game and engine designed for something completely different. It's like making a platformer in Ocarina of Time.

>>1375063

so are you saying yoshi story also has horrible design or are you just correcting the part about sonic cd

>>1375008

I agree, it's kind of like Sonic CD in the sense that a lot of people decide it's shit just because it's not like the other games in the series, and because of ignoring various unique mechanics in the games.

Everytime I see someone claim Sonic CD has bad level design I cringe... it's bandwagon parroting that got out of proportion.

More of a hidden gem than an underrated masterpiece. It was a good entry level game aimed at novice players, and I still find it quite comfy. Not bad but not exceptional either.

>>1375063
>It's like making a platformer in Ocarina of Time

You know that already happened, right?

>>1375092

how is it a hidden gem? how is any mario series game obscure or have low levels of exposure?

>>1375092
>First Party Nintendo Franchise
>Hidden Gem

You can only choose one.

>>1375094
[citation needed]

>>1375124
What about making a platformer out of DOOM?

Because Jumpmaze.

It's not the best game I've ever played, but it's worth a playthrough, especially if Yoshi's Island is your kind of thing.

Also, the fact that it's 60FPS is great. I know it's petty, but after playing so many sub-20FPS N64 games, that feels like a breath of fresh air.

>>1375101
>>1375106
Hidden's the wrong word, I think I meant overlooked.

>>1375128
do you not know what a citation is?

>>1375130

how is it over looked?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nghTrcPBp3s

look at the # of views man

>>1375082
>Everytime I see someone claim Sonic CD has bad level design I cringe... it's bandwagon parroting that got out of proportion.
It's not bandwagon parroting, it's honest critique.
Please, defend Sonic CD's retarded level designs without saying it's because of the challenge.

>>1375129

60fps and a lot of shit happens on screen too. In the later levels there's a lot of shit happening all the time. I keep getting game overs on story mode trying to do melon-only.

>>1375138
I didn't have a citation for the Mario example, so I tried to provide a different example (I'm not the one who made the Mario example).

Or do you want a citation for Jumpmaze? If so I'll just open it up and take a couple screenshots.

>>1375101
Mario's Picross

>>1374881
Yes. Playing it makes me happy and there's no little shithead Baby Mario to cry at you.

How does this game look in real life? In screenshots it always looks muddy and indistinct, which seems a real shame after the wonderful yoshi's island visuals. And I was always suspicious of the 64's ability to deal with crisp sprites. But then, it's common knowledge that nintendo games always look better in motion. What's it like hooked up to a TV? I feel like this kind of game really lives or dies on its visuals

>>1375294
>Being annoyed at Baby Mario.
>Getting hurt in Yoshi's Island.

Absolutely pathetic.

>>1375303
It definitely looks better in motion on a tv.

I think the game is appropriately rated (and ignored!).

i remember playing it and loved it as a kid. a few years ago i fucking played it again. I beat it in 30 minutes.

why the fuck would it be underrated. it was a waste of money >at the time

I really liked the soundtrack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxZs95vhS2Y&list=PL9FB26A5D97F0AF68

>>1375008
I understand the way it's designed, and I can see how well designed it is for what it attempts to do.
I just don't enjoy playing the game the way it's meant to be played. I don't find it enjoyable at all.

>>1375734

the whole soundtrack is really dope

>>1375303
Yeah, game looks a million times better in motion, particularly because the animation on most everything uses a lot of fancy squashing and bending and rotating effects that look really nice and smooth, and Yoshi himself has a shitload of well animated sprites.
I think a lot of the issue with screenshots looking blurry is that the camera often zooms in or out to accommodate certain sections of level better.

The SNES one has a consistent, surreal aesthetic that's just plain cool.

The 64 one is a mess. Looks like a bunch of random shit thrown on screen.

>>1375857
I wouldn't call Yoshi's Island surreal.
Your description of Yoshi's Story actually fits that better.

The aesthetic of Yoshi's Island is clearly that of children's drawings, and is actually quite grounded.
The only part that even remotely reminds me of surrealism is the blue sea backdrop when you're flying the helicopter in one of the earlier stages (pic related), and that's mostly just because it makes me think of René Magritte's skies.

Back to the point, I don't think Story's art style is just a bunch of random shit.
It actually sort of continues what was presented in the previous game by taking a more 3D aspect of children's creations.
The levels looks like they're made out of cardboard, felt and all sorts of things, by someone with lots of imagination. It makes me think of a sort of proto-LittleBigPlanet.

>>1375857
Like, seriously, look at this: >>1375146
The idea of using jeans as a background is fucking brilliant.

>>1375881
When they were pushing it in Nintendo Power they talked a lot about the fabric. I loved that game btw.

I Played Yoshi's Story As A Kid, I Still Haven't Played Yoshi's Island.

So As A Person Having Only Played Yoshi's Story I Liked It.

>>1374962
I hate yoshi's new voice, the one from MKwii

i felt gay as fuck playing it as a kid. its ok though i guess.

>>1374904
>>1374890
I'm pretty sure you don't unlock them, if you find one you can use it until it dies or you beat the game. Theyre essentially extra lives

>>1375987
this. yoshi story is a classic for me and i never played yoshi's island. it's just a simple feel-good game. you have to look at it for what it was i guess.

nothing is better than finally getting to the super happy tree and looking back on your journey with your brothers and sisters.

whatever anyone says, this game had atmosphere unlike any other game out there, and that is where it shines.

>>1375881
Yoshi's Story asthetic reminds me of a scrap book.

Anyone else think it's weird that Nintendo counts Yoshi as a seperate franchise?

I really don't think Yoshi has enough games to justify it as anything but a spin-off of Mario, as opposed to, say, Donkey Kong.

>>1378432

It's a spin-off that got distinctive enough to gain its own series, kinda like how Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land spawned the Wario series, SMW2: Yoshi's Island spawned Yoshi's own series. Not to mention in Japan, the "SMW2" subtitle wasn't even there, they only added it for the western release, I think it's the same case with SML3.

>>1378495
>TFW Wario gets a franchise before Luigi.

>>1378495
Maybe because SMW it's SMB4 in Japan?

>>1379329
luigi was the star of Mario is Missing. Look at the travesty that was. No wonder they didn't give him another game for a while.

Yoshi's story, I think, is one of the best arguments for necessity of the Achievement system.

In theory, I love this game, and how open the different pathways are, and how many ways there are to beat the level.

But it felt so fucking pointless. The only thing that felt rewarding in the game was searching for all the hearts, but the only reward you get for that is unlocking the higher pathways. But if you already played through the higher pathways you won't care about getting the hearts in the other levels, so what's the point of getting the hearts in the other levels?

A few times I tried beating each level with only the rare melons, but so many of them were supposed to be found using Yoshi's slow paced sniffing ability, and it's so easy to accidently get the wrong kind of melon.

>>1379329
>Gets a franchise
ha ha
he got 2

>>1375094
That was the other way around, actually.

>>1380012
Nintendo didn't even make Mario is Missing.
Or Mario's Time Machine for that matter.

>>1379329
Luigi's Ghostbusters game on 3DS sold over 3 million units, that is Luigi's franchise now.

>>1374881
I never catch anyone calling it shit, so no. The only thing people dislike is that you can beat the game in four levels, which is a legitimate complaint.

>>1381472
>that is Luigi's franchise now.
20 years later.