/vr/ - Retro Games

It should work so long as you have the ports. It'll look like utter shite though.

>>1348881

ok thanks. Would an RF cable be a better option, or even buying a smaller 32" HDTV?

>>1348890

the physical size does not matter

pixel resolution does

really just download an emulator, most of the popular games game can be played w/o major problems

>>1348890
RF is the worst input quality wise

RF< composite(yellow, red, white plugs)<S-video<RGB

Invest in a cheapo CRT or emulate i think. An N64 running on any LCD is gonna look like crap.

Ask the CRT thread if you want to know more.

>>1348893

Star Wars Shadows of the Empire doesn't emulate very well, and I'd really like to play through that again.

First, are you PAL or NTSC?

If PAL there is no hope for N64 to look decent on a flat screen, go find a CRT.

If NTSC find out if the N64 can be RGB modded, do it, get a decent scaler and an N64 RGB cable and it'll look fine even on a big TV.

>>1348910

PAL. Australia.

; ;

I will need to keep an eye out for a CRT TV, considering they don't sell them anymore.

>>1348915
You can get them for free off people's lawns during the large goods collections periods. Well as long as it hasn't rained recently.

N64 USB controller and emulator.
Plug your PC into your TV with HDMI cable.
Free games.

>>1348947

Ive played on emulators before, I want more of an authentic feel. And I actually want the console, because I always wanted one when I was younger.

Emulators are good, but they don't play every thing, and N64 emulation has always been dicey with the exception of mainstream games.

And you can get the superior version of the superior fighting game!

>>1348992

That's not Fighter's Destiny.

>>1348992

>worst fighting game
>superior

This has got to be bait.

>>1348910
>owning a PAL n64 and not a hardmodded NTSC-U one
Please.

>>1349050
Some of us like using the very same consoles we bought in the 90s.

They rereleased on xbox360. Just sayin'

you can get a CRT tv for a few bucks at your local thrift shop.

I have seen them as low as 1 dollar when I was looking for one to play Melee on.

>>1348905
Last I heard, if you use Glide64, it will work just fine.

>>1349207
>not playing it at 15fps using a super accurate software renderer

>>1348905
>>1349207
>>1349245
You...do know there was a far superior PC version, right? The music got completely butchered on the N64.

>>1348896
Any particular reason? I've run a PS1 on a large HDTV via composite and it didn't look especially shittier than on a CRT.

>>1348905
not once you get to the speedbike escape of Tattooine. Fuck that level

>>1349253
Nigga that was the best stage. I replayed that shit all the time.

>>1349249

Many reasons. Deinterlacing and upscaling being the most prominent.

PS1 wouldn't look nearly as bad as N64 would either, as the PS1's output is MUCH cleaner than the N64's.

>>1349306
Blame the N64's anti-aliasing. It's not too bad on a CRT, but it does NOT scale well at all. I mean, just look at >>1349245.

Ok looks like my neighbour has a CRT TV he doesn't want and will sell it cheap.

Things are looking up!

>>1349306
No it isn't if both consoles are using RGB
>>1349371
That's not how anti-aliasing works

>>1351226
Not hard to get CRTs cheap. My local Goodwill has dozens at times, and even the huge ones are not more than $25.

>>1351235
It is when you are upscaling an anti-aliased 240p image up to 1080p or whatever. The blurring along the edges that would not have been as noticeable on a CRT becomes mighty damn noticeable then.

>>1352963
1) Jaggies would be far more noticeable upscaled than anti-aliasing. Your blur is down to faulty set up. Get a better scaler.

2) N64 did not have an indiscriminate full-screen anti-aliasing but a selected edges anti-aliasing. Only some edges are filtered.

>>1352972
Indeed, it only really anti-aliases horizontally from what I have noticed.

Anyway, in case you didn't know, that shot up there is a pixel-perfect software renderer, point-sampled up to 1024x768. It is as clear as the N64's actual video output gets.

>people saying it will look like shit on an HDTV
>those same people recommending you emulate it on a PC monitor that has just as big of a resolution, if not bigger, than an HDTV

what the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>1352989
Because at least through emulation, you can render at the resolution of the display, apply anti-aliasing, etc.

>>1352989
There's a world of difference between upscaling an image and completely re-rendering it.

>>1352993
that looks fucking terrible and unnatural. I want the /vr/ back that appreciated authenticity.

>>1352998
scanline filters are equally retarded

>>1352997
k here you go

>>1352993

does the n64 anti-alias? i thought it just applied gaussian filtering to all textures

>>1353002
Make up your mind, already.

why one should force point-sampling

>>1353005
Yes, it does. As for its texture filtering, it is an incomplete version of bilinear, which only uses three samples as opposed to the usual four that regular bilinear filtering uses, resulting in textures that looks slightly jagged.

>>1353007
1280x960 is not the resolution MM originally ran at.

>>1353002
I agree with you, but at least everything in that guy's screenshot looks like it belongs together, unlike >>1352993

>>1353012

check out these sexy unfiltered graphics

>>1353008
Oh yes, because point-sampling is always the answer.

>>1353018
> extremely low-res texture
> not going to be extremely low-quality no matter what you do

>>1353012
It's not an 'incomplete' version of bilinear. It is simply bilinear performance mode. It meets SGI spec for bilinear.

Bilinear is always superior than point sampling when used in 3D scenes unless you are deliberately going for non-realism.

>>1353134
>Bilinear is always superior than point sampling when used in 3D scenes unless you are deliberately going for non-realism.

...........what

>>1353143
3D graphics 101.

Go read an OpenGL or DirectX textbook. Point sampling was only ever used because older systems did not have the processing power for texture filtering.

>>1353147

that doesn't answer my question at all

...japanese don't even adhere to western ideology

as far as they care it's a video game and y would you try to make it like reality

>>1353151
As I said, texture filtering is there to make textures more realistic.

If you don't want realism/want to make something look like an old game, point sampling is useful.

Ocarina actually looked 'realistic' back in 1998. That was the look they were trying to go for.

>>1353158

idk about that, it still looks like a game to me

blur filters don't make things look any more realistic if you ask me...if anything it looks cheesy and out of place

anyway take a look at this, everything is so "realistic" it sucks all "life and soul" from the game, kinda depressing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsuHftfLlCE

>>1353163
I think this is more to do with the texture pack being lame and not suiting the artwork well. If the developers themselves made a high-res texture pack it would look good.

Spyro and Crash would have benefited from textured filtering immensely.

>>1353163
>implying that doesn't at least look and feel more up-to-date

>>1348871
blow it out your ass OP

OP here, I have my N64 and a 27" CRT TV, but it still looks like rubbish.

Jaggies everywhere and text is almost impossible to read.

Was the N64 really this terrible?

>>1354514

Also I'm using the AV cable.

Maybe I've plugged it in wrong.... but I either get the picture in black and white with lines everywhere, or in color looking like crap

It might lag. Most TVs like that do

>>1348910
>Believing all NTSC N64s have the same chip
>Believing all PAL N64s have the same chip
>Believing you can't use you own chip
>Believing everything he reads on the Internet.

>>1352997
It's pretty close to what the game actually looked like on a CRT. The only problems are the aspect ratio and excessive AA.

>>1354514

no that's just what things look like on a crt

>>1354617
>It's pretty close to what the game actually looked like on a CRT

No, it doesn't. I have an actual N64 hooked up to a CRT through S-video, and despite all of the issues with N64 emulation, when it does work, it beats the absolute shit out of the real thing.

Also, there's technically nothing wrong with the aspect ratio on that shot, since it's using a widescreen hack, so there's no unnatural stretching.

You should be able to hook it up to Your hdtv, but the games will look like garbage on a modern high resolution tv.

option1: find a small crt tv to use the n64 with

option 2: emulate

anyone used the usb to n64 gamepad adapters from amazon ?

I really don't understand all these people that have issues with newer tvs. All my consoles, from NES to N64, play just fine on the TV, no input lag issues, and no hideous upscaling issues either. We would know, my brother, having spent an inhuman amount of time playing Mario games throughout the many years on CRT tvs, never has complained about graphical differences.

Perhaps we got lucky with our TV of choice.

>>1355795
>no input lag issues

No input lag issues that you can perceive, casual.

The N64 HDMI/DVI mod will give you the best possible picture, but it's a pain to do.

>>1355840
That's not even out yet

>>1355795
Cheap HDTVs have more issues. I've never had a problem with Sony's upscalers, but a bargain-bin Samsung or something typically has awful problems with 240p signals.

>>1355848
>a bargain-bin Samsung
lol Samsung makes the very best HDTVs you can get.

>>1355853

>>1355853
>gook panels
>best

>>1355819
uh red it on duh intarwbz so must b tru, potato

>>1355848
And the trailer trash giggle while we enjoy our fucking awesome screens.

>>1355860
>I'm so newfag even my dad doesn't know what a gook is