/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Have you checked The Space Pirate yet? http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37064 It's in Alpha as we speak, but that shouldn't restrain you from testing it out!

-TerminusEst13, of well known Samsara fame, is developing a neat mod featuring Samus Aran from the Metroid series, keep an eye on these threads for more info!

-CACOWARDS? SURE, HERE! http://www.doomworld.com/20years.. Feel absolutely free to share your thoughts about the works chosen for this edition. And man oh man, they surely left a lot of stuff to discuss related to the decisions made on some wads...

-Doomsday received a brand new update, now you can play with the Oculus Rift! Go download Doomsday here! http://dengine.net/

-The upcoming edition of Awesome Games Done Quick will feature a full set of retro FPS games, Doom included! But this time is different, since there will be a bidding war between Ultimate Doom and Doom 2: Hell on Earth, and also a Plutonia speedrun will take place too! (yikes). The event will take place in January 6, at 19:00 hrs Central time (aprox)

-An anon put up recently a neat website for everyone to upload wads, go check it here (if your antivirus gets paranoid, do not worry, it's a false positive)
http://pseudo3d.org/wads/

-December 10th marked the 20th anniversary of the release of the shareware version of Doom; there were tons of stuff and special events that were done for it, if you missed 'em all, feel free to ask for links to them!

-ChocoDoom got updated in the 20th anniversary, but it didn't stopped there. Now you can play Heretic, Hexen and Strife too! Go grab each version of them here! http://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

>>1312513
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3251

Zandronum version of the Space Pirate

Server is named spess pirate

>>1312524
*spess piracy

There's also the official Space Pirate channel
irc://irc.zandronum.com/#tsp

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1227794

>The speedrun will be followed by a race between him and Vortale on either Doom or Doom 2, depending on a bid outcome. There will be an extra donation incentive to make Dime suffer through Go 2 It as well
>There will be an extra donation incentive to make Dime suffer through Go 2 It as well
>Go 2 It

DIME'S ASS STATUS:

[ ] NOT DOOMED
[X] DOOMED

>>1312538
DESTROYED

And also look who just got an update of all things, Freedoom!

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/66836-freedoom-0-8-released/
http://freedoom.github.io/download.html

And guess which wad offered itself to become FreeDoom's Episode 4?

>>1312551
Do the zombie sprites still look retarded?

>>1312551
Wait what? Really?

>>1312538
Go 2 It isn't even that hard though.

>>1312558

true, let's add a note on a donation comment asking Dime to run thru it without using the BFG

>>1312554
Everything still looks retarded apart from the weapon pickups and textures.

>>1312561

While playing it with Hard Doom.

>>1312551

FreeDoomguy for samsara when?

Freedoom Supershotgun > Doom 2 supershotgun

PROVE
ME
WRONG
FIGITS

>>1312591
I can't, it's just a dumb opinion about art on a surface level.

>>1312591
ur mom on my bed said ur wrong.
###########REEEKTT

>>1312591

You know...I am blasting thru FreeDoom2 now...and the supershotty doesn't look (and sound) that bad.

>>1312594
>sound
I am disgusted by your lack of taste.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1A9DZL0Y87l

Get better opinions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPk7XiPudcA

Yes, you will be able to freeze dudes and jump on them.
Or jump off of them, as it were.

The Space Pirate Neo update 0.1.1 will hopefully be here 1/4!

The Space Pirate for (G)ZDoom will also maybe get it's update the same day!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/doom2sprites.pk3
a simple patch for the turbonerds among us who just can't stand the sprites in freedoom

>>1312606
UNGH
That's SO FAR AWAY
In TIME

>>1312601

CHILL OUT, MAN

>>1312610
Oh my christ thank you. I've been thinking something like this should be available so that my eyes don't bleed when I try to play through Freedoom's maps.

>>1312509
Great work, Terminus and gratz for the cacoward!

Also, where's IMPSE and why is he not making the threads anymore?

>>1312650
IMX is Impse you baka

>>1312581
IDK I think the bfg sounds cool

>>1312650
IMX is Impse.

>>1312652
>>1312653
oh, my bad; I haven't played doom in months, never mind the threads

little something i found for the metroid mod

...?!

>>1312803
Be proud Mr. Woo

Okay so guys
we've already got a metroid mod in progress

Can you imagine a zelda mod?
Health measured in hearts, health done retro game-style where hits only take a few tokens and you flash with invulnerability
in-depth melee system with sword and shield
inherit from the loreshot from the hookshot
use the boomerang code for a fucking boomerang

fucking gogogogogo

>>1312803
I approve of dual wield.

>>1312814
>Samsara with Nintendo characters

>>1312818
>Super Frag Bros.

>>1312803
I actually found myself using the pistol a lot with the last alpha.
This will probably make it much more useful.

I actually like that slow reload too, not sure why. Might be that snap at the end of it

>>1312819
Dibs on Little Mac.

>>1312814

>mfw I'm going to start trying to make an NES Legend of Zelda weapon pack

I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm going to try, I already have ideas for how each weapon is gonna work, like bait for example: Left clicking will drop it and draw monster aggro towards it, and right click would throw it, and if it hits a monster, they attack IT instead of you

>>1312821
>I actually like that slow reload
Get out of here. This is a Citizen's Ban, you're Citizen Banned from /vr/.

>>1312842
I'm sorry anon.

But I like reloading just in general, even in Doom.

>>1312814

I have a retro health/armor system I fiddled with a long time ago before deciding against it.
If you can make use of anything, please feel free to dig around in it.

http://static.best-ever.org/wads/te13-unspecifiedweaponset.pk3

>>1312845
But it takes roughly 2/3s of the clip to kill an imp. When I was younger I would dance all day.

I don't want to dance all day anymore.

Just put the bullets in the gun and let's get this show on the road.

>>1312853
Well I'm not saying the gun was perfect, but I liked the reload.

Are you sure it was 2/3 of a clip to kill an imp?
It felt like 5 bullets per imp since I'd kill 2-3 imps with each full auto.

The reload could be a bit faster, but the reload animation itself is one I like.

>>1312859
I just completed a test to verify on Ultraviolence.

I was mistaken, it took 3 to 5 shots to kill an Imp. I must have held down fire for longer than I needed. A user on Zandronum reported running out of ammo too quickly with the AmmoBox50 and judging from the sick maths I pulled they're just wasting ammunition.

Should the mod compensate for missed shots when firing speeds are this high? I figure it wouldn't be a terrible modification to boost ammo.

The reload animation is interesting at best for me because it feels deliberately slow, especially that last hand jerk to cock it. If Mel at least appeared to have a sense of urgency it might not bother me as much, outside of Deathmatch.

>>1312871
I forgot to include an "also" in the sentence about the Zandronum user as I was having a similar problem--I waste ammo.

One day I'll get gud.

>>1312814
You could always have the sword equipped, and the items could be for secondary fires.
the items I could think of:
Shield: block projectiles, but stops movement, kinda like the nes games, maybe reflect projectiles, like OOT
Slingshot: weak hitscan
Bow: fast medium strength projectile
Bomb: tap mouse to drop, hold to throw
Pegasus boots: dash attack
Fire rod: Slow, powerful projectile

>>1312871
I've never had ammo issues with Space Pirate so far outside of pistol ammo, and that's because that comes in 5s.

I've been playing this alpha with as many things as I could on UV since I enjoy it a lot.

This is what I've found:
Shotgun is reliable as fuck
Uzi(Ammobox?) is reliable as fuck but ammo can be a bit of an issue unless you're dealing with Chaingunners. Since it comes in 25s and deals above average damage it's really useful.
Pistol is decent but ammo drains pretty quickly if it's your main gun
Melee is really useful.

At the start before a shotgun I use the pistol to kill zomboes and punch/kick the crap out of anything that isn't a Hitscanner.
Once I get a Shotgun/Uzi I'm set until anything with Baron of Hell tiers of HP becomes common.

Now keep in mind I don't toss myself into something like slaughter maps or Thy Flesh Consumed just because of the sheer count of Barons without stronger weapons available.

But so far I do think the weapons are balanced. The pistol just needs a little bit more.
I think Dual wielding pistols will be enough to make it reliable, but for ammo it could easily be a weapon that would be absolutely swimming in ammo.

>Hour long video of a group of adults laughing at some kid's shit mod
>No one can understand why he's upset or why he wants to get rid of the thread
Isn't this bullying http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=39023

>>1312950

where's the video?

>>1312950
>zdoom forum
probably lol

>>1312960
2nd page, also has anyone found any really good wads for DoomRL arsenal? I've played a bit of vanilla Doom 1 and 2 with it along with Scythe but they just don't really fit the mod.

<Edward850> >>1312950
<Edward850> We are getting talked about again.
<TheDarkArchon> Yay
<The_Funktasm1> *meanwhile at skeletor's evil lair*
<wildweasel> Bah. Let 'em talk about us.
<The_Funktasm1> wait, fuck that. they don't deserve that comparison

oh shit be careful what you say guys
if you say you don't like it
they might make fun of us on their chatroom

>>1312972
what a shame

<Edward850> Yap, they are deffinantly in here. Good work on finding our plublic channel, guys. :V
<Edward850> >>1312972
<Valerie> abd the person whining about Edward on there probably rapes dogs as a hobby

hue

>>1312972
>Edward850: Yap, they are deffinantly in here. Good work on finding our plublic channel, guys. :V
>Medicris: Getting awfully defensive at a box of anonymous text in your internet browser
>Edward850: Medicris: Tell me more bout how much Doom I don't know about. :P

Hah hah oh wow

>>1312972
oh shit put on your coolface

>>1312983
God damn he really is a defensive nerd.

>g-good work on finding a p-public place!
>Uh okay what does that have to do with anythi
>TELL ME ABOUT HOW I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DOOM

Then he'll probably start another witchhunt like he did when he found that pastebin.

>>1312981
protip: valerie claims to be high minded yet claims she can't take anyone who uses 4chan seriously and bullies children

>>1312987

this is edward850 we're talking about.
he'd find a way to argue with a rock
and then still manage to out-stubborn it

I'm just tired of potential newcomers being greeted by an abrasive community. I don't know if it's just the law of ZDoom, but most people tend to clamor onto what they perceive as bad. Most mods that make it past the second page do so because of a ridiculous negative reaction. I don't really understand the intention of it, because from what I've seen very few people have grown from being bashed, but hey, what do I know?

>>1312996
It's great watching him realize he made a fatal mistake in his argument because he rushed into it.

I don't dislike Edward850 because he's a twat, or even because he's a grown ass man that has a youtube channel dedicated to making fun of teenagers who don't have a full understanding of a proprietary coding language and have the disadvantage of posting on an english forum when their first language isn't english.

I dislike him because he's a weird asshole. I know because I made the mistake of going to a con with him. I went as part of a group to share costs, and he was a friend of a friend who I didn't know beforehand.

He went dressed up as "Professor Layton" except all he did was wear a suede jacket over his t-shirt and cargo shorts and wear tortoise rim glasses without any lenses in them. He introduced himself as "the lead game dev and loremaster of zdoom." He spent the first couple of hours tagging along with us, insisting on stopping when we came across a kid when he would ask their parents if he could take a picture of their child "for netcode purposes" and then turn and wink at us. We left him after two parents called security and he pretended to only speak german when the security guards asked him questions, saying "einz? einz? einz?" in an exaggerated teutonic accent. I don't even think "einz" is a german word.

>>1313006

He must have sorted it out because we saw him later trying to walk away from a booth with like sixteen sailor moon action figures without paying. The lady at the booth was very nice about it and professional and was like Sir, you need to pay for those first. At first he kept pretending to be "german" again and shaking his hands speaking fake german, but eventually turned back and paid for them.

The entire bus ride home he kept farting and complaining about zandronum (which he calls "AndromeDUMB") and it's client-server architecture. Every time after he'd farted really loud he'd pause a couple of seconds later and ask if anyone else heard that. At first I told him that I knew it was him that farted but then he started holding his breath and shaking until his face turned red and his friend shot me a look so I left it alone. He went back to asking us if we heard the farts and when we said yes he said it was really weird since it "sounded like the bus was farting." Eventually the old lady sitting in front of us asked him if he needed to go to the bathroom, and if he could keep his voice down, but he just interrupting her saying "huh?" really loudly every time she tried to speak. Overall he made it the worst con experience I've ever had.

>>1312972
>>1312983

I don't dislike Edward850 because he's a grown ass man that has a youtube channel dedicated to making fun of teenagers who don't have a full understanding of a proprietary coding language and have the disadvantage of posting on an english forum when their first language isn't english.

I dislike him because he's a weird creepy asshole. I know because I made the mistake of going to quakecon with him. I went as part of a group to share costs, and he was a friend of a friend who I didn't know beforehand.

He went dressed up as "Professor Layton" except all he did was wear a suede jacket over his t-shirt and cargo shorts and wear tortoise rim glasses without any lenses in them. He introduced himself as "the lead game dev and loremaster of zdoom." He spent the first couple of hours tagging along with us, insisting on stopping when we came across a kid when he would ask their parents if he could take a picture of their child "for netcode purposes" and then turn and wink at us. We left him after two parents called security and he pretended to only speak german when the security guards asked him questions, saying "einz? einz? einz?" in an exaggerated teutonic accent. I don't even think "einz" is a german word.

>>1313006
>>1313009
wow what a dick

That pasta will never grow old and I love it.

>>1313006
>>1313009
>>1313010
>>1313014
I bet ZDoom's netcode did this.

>>1313006
>>1313009

jesus what a weird asshole

>>1313016
zdoom is single player, you mean zdaemon

>>1313001
This. Fucking this.

I mean seriously /vr/
I know this is the internet and grow a thick skin and nobody is supposed to coddle you and etc etc etc.
But when your very first thing doesn't get "This is not the direction you should make a mod, these are not good because of X, Y, and Z, you should start simple" but instead gets four fuckheads rambling on about how terrible you are for not knowing anything because surprise, you're brand fucking new, it tends to not shine well on anyone.

>>1313001

This. For comparison

Respected member of zdoom community helping a newcomer:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=732439

Notorious troll smelly dumb 4chan scum helping a newcomer:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=732630

>>1313001
>>1313025
I just hate elitist attitudes in general whether it is for modding or just playing a multiplayer game online. The people with them just lash out on newer people trying to join in without giving any helpful tips which completely discourages them from staying causing whatever community they are in to slowly die. Shit is fucking annoying.

>>1313034
Maximum LOL.

#ZDoom is absolutely filled with people fighting to protect their right to be a dick, claiming that people should react better to "abrasive comments" and that they're betraying themselves for giving up, like it's some life-long dream and not modding Doom.

>>1313053
This. I'm just so done trying to argue. I've never "flown off the handle" but fucking christ. I will never understand that mindset, and I don't think I want to.

>>1313063
I think it's something along the lines of an unironic "Get on my level" and the belief that being mad or upset invalidates you.

A particularly toxic and stifling belief.

zdoom's forum is one of the few places with good modders online so we should do something to make it better

when edward gets into a mood we say "don't mind edward, he's just grumpy about netcode"

>>1313034
Why is this allowed

>mods stopping the arguing
>no one stopping edward
fucking it's just going to happen again

>>1313095
Maybe it's because he'll leave and stop developing ZDoom's netcode. Some furry website had a similar issue, their network guy held their website hostage so they couldn't fire him.

>>1313098
SHEEZYART, that's it.

So I just read that thread on the zdoom forum. Who the fuck is this edward guy and why are people sucking up to him. Holy fuck I forgot how shitty forums could be.

>>1313112
He codes ZDoom's netcode that like 40 people use.

However they need him or else ZDoom won't have online at all and Zandronum will never use its code.

>>1313117
>and Zandronum will never use its code.

What
>Z& using ZD netcode

>Yesterday, developing more stuff for Demonicron
>Coming up with a great idea
>To grab the entire Doom monster cast, and simplify their concept design to their most minimum expression, and from that point, expand it with the project's concept in mind

So that left me with the following:

>Undead marines
A possesed, dead human body, holding a [insert weapon here]

>Imp
A spiked demon with medium-sized teeth capable of throwing fireballs

>Pinky
A bull-ish demon with BIG teeth and mouth

>Baron of Hell
A large, muscular demon capable of throwing fireballs

>Hell Knight
Lesser Baron, same characteristics

>Cacodemon
Spherical, spiked, floating demon capable of throwing electric balls

>Lost Soul
A floating skull set on flames, almost ethereal

>Revenant
A demon brought back from the dead, can shoot guided missiles.

>Mancubus
Extremely obese demon with flamethrowers as arms

>Archvile
A swift-moving demon, capable of resurrecting monsters and blasting enemies away

>Arachnotron
A lesser arachnid demon, capable of shooting plasma balls rapidly

>Pain Elemental
Spherical, floating demon that does nothing other than spit lost souls

>Spider Mastermind
A colossal arachnid demon, equipped with an extremely powerful chaingun

>Cyberdemon
An extremely rough, big horned and monumental demon with a rocket launcher as arm.

>SS Nazi
German soldier just passing by

Please tell me if I got this right and/or you would change something. I omitted mentioning colors on purpose to be sure that I've kept this as minimalistic as possible. I won't bother with the IoS at this moment, by the way

>>1313131
Zandronum runs on a modified ZDoom. Once your change the multiplayer hierarchy the rest is butter.

uh oh
i think edward is here

Any mods with homosexual tension?

>>1313135

A modified ZDoom, yes, but completely different netcode structure.

Looking to get started mapping, no experience in mapping whatsoever. Do I need to be able to make textures and shit? Also, any other tuts I should read other than the doombuilder one?

I'm sure someone's going to dump a load of stuff on me for this, but I feel uncomfortable just leaving this as is.

I've seen a lot of comments here that seemed focused on stretching a narrow selection over an entire community. Okay, sure, why do I care? Well, for one main reason:

There's really not enough off-site groups that pay heed to the creations of the ZDoom community, and I'd rather not have people driven away by one disagreeable fellow when it could impact how played my fellow Zdoomers' works are ( and I won't say I don't care about my own, but, well, that requires finishing them )

And I do feel I need to clarify for the sake of my friends, pretty much everyone who wasn't Edward in that Crazy Doom video: they didn't know they were being recorded. They were just playing together for fun. If they were actually planning on presenting their criticism to the author, they would've done it in a more, well, criticism-like manner. Take that as you will.

Frankly, I'm not trying to pin all this on Edward, who's already demonized on here enough, I feel. But I will be perfectly blunt and say he's not always pleasant. He's not the only who's like that, either, but that's really not the majority of the community.

This is probably fairly lame, so to have something more about what this is supposed to be about, poultry: http://youtu.be/IBMSe9zJ514

>>1313164
yeah well i'm anti zdoom

Quake was here

Eat dicks

>>1313170
I don't want that

>>1313170
ur mom is dicks.

#dum stronk.

>>1313178
>1.94MB GIF
Why not a YouTube

>>1313149

>Do I need to be able to make textures and shit?

No, just the doombuilder vids can get you going in no time

>>1313192
Alright. I'll go for it.

>>1313164
>And I do feel I need to clarify for the sake of my friends, pretty much everyone who wasn't Edward in that Crazy Doom video: they didn't know they were being recorded.
So Edward is even more of a cunt than I realized, thanks for saying.

>>1313164
>I'm sure someone's going to dump a load of stuff on me for this

Yep, let me get the ball rolling.

>I've seen a lot of comments here that seemed focused on stretching a narrow selection over an entire community.

Then you'd better accept that the entire community is the problem, complete with idiots at the top ensuring the problem is never addressed.

>and I'd rather not have people driven away by one disagreeable fellow
>"one disagreeable fellow"
>"one"
>my fucking sides

>they didn't know they were being recorded

Yeah, bro. Sure they didn't. Riiight.

>Frankly, I'm not trying to pin all this on Edward, who's already demonized on here enough, I feel.

At least you're willing to admit he's not the only problem.

Now, if you could just stop posting stupid shit like...

> that's really not the majority of the community.

...we'd all be doing better.

>forum drama
>Not talking about Doom

The fuck is with you people

>>1313178
Can the shock hit multiple targets?

>>1313164
>I've seen a lot of comments here that seemed focused on stretching a narrow selection over an entire community.
The problem is that these are the the guys that stand out. The guys that want to be heard. The guys that pop up in the community.
When these are the dudes you let stand out in your community, yeah, those are the guys we are going to judge the community by because they're the ones we see.

>they didn't know they were being recorded. They were just playing together for fun. If they were actually planning on presenting their criticism to the author, they would've done it in a more, well, criticism-like manner. Take that as you will.
Hahahahahahaha holy shit are you serious? He didn't even fucking say "let's record and present some feedback to the guy"? And then he has the fucking gall to pretend that the kid's just "ignoring criticism"?

>>1313246
>Can the shock hit multiple targets?

Yeah, anything that's in one of the arcs gets zapped. Including the player. Damage needs to be nerfed slightly though.

Pic is more newer and more gooder version of lightning.

>>1313164
>But I will be perfectly blunt and say he's not always pleasant.

Allow me to give you a list of all of my notable personal interactions with Edward!
Not a single one has been pleasant.

1: Talking about stuff I did in my mod in #zdoom "You realize you don't have to mod for Zandronum, right?"
2: I mention in passing on another site that I've been having trouble porting it to ZDoom, "What kind of backwater code are you using?"
3: I talk about something cool I managed to do in Zandronum with what limited features I could "Pffttt, get back to me when you've managed to yappa nappa fappa wappa. :P"
4: I release a video of a new feature that people seem to like, he has a heart attack and goes on a huge spiel at me in PMs interrogating me as to how it worked, how it should work, and ends with "If he does it any different, I will spam his inbox with large GROSS HACK signs."
5: People are saying mean things about him on 4chan! He then PMs me about it and says "I DON'T LIKE YOUR FANBASE". um why the fuck do you think it had anything to do with me now it does i suppose, WHOOPSIE DAISY
6: "I looked at old videos of your mod showing off how Zandro butcherd null body errors resulting in static players that demonstrates perfectly how Zandronum cannot handle the etc etc etc." Um no that was me two years ago naming a sprite wrong.

I'm sure if I met him under different circumstances, he would be a wonderful guy and not veritably insufferable.
Unfortunately, they would need to be dramatically different. Like, way fucking significantly alternate-universe-bullshit different.
Like "stop trying to fucking put me down every goddamn chance you have" different.

Full rotations? Crouching sprites? New hand pose for weapon holding?

Why do I hate myself

>>1313304
Looks really good, are you using anything for a base or is it freehand?
Also is >>1313252 >>1313178 space pirate?

>>1313305
The only thing I'm using as a base is scalliano's scientist sprites, and then giving them a ridiculous make over after. And yes, it is Space Pirate!

>>1313313
Ah, I can kinda see it now that you mention it. It looks significantly different from the base though. The sprite and the weapon are both looking great, keep up the great work. Looking forward to the next update.

>>1313304
Blue ring and Red ring Mel are the best.

>>1313252
I really dig electric weaponry.

Reading this makes me see why it's so great to be anonymous here.

We can all just fucking talk, straight to the point and say what we think without any karma crap or ego bullshit getting in the way.
It's also ironically what has helped against the bullying over at zdoom.

I dont have a tag next to my name saying "This anon came here in 2007, so he's more valid than one who came here in 2014" or "This anon browses these other boards you might not like, attack him based on that!", posts are taken as they are.
What are you going to do? Call us all faggots, virgins and cowards because we're anons on 4chan? Ooooh, we're so scared. So offended some random twat would rather attack muh board than engage in points raised.

With no egos to attack you will have to go play schoolyard bully somewhere else, fuckass.

best WAD editor?

>>1313365

I can see that you are from 2014 though.
>only realizing this now

jk, its great indeed

>>1313369
I was here in 2007, respect my status and shower me with praise! I remember chanology, elections, the zimmerman trial and all happenings and through it all I've never become a tripcode user.

Jokes aside, I said 2014 because I knew somebody would be like "it's 2014 now, feggit". I wont make the same mistake I did last year.

I'm having a few DECORATE problems

Is there anyone here who's really good at it, and can help me please?

It involves A_VileAttack which doesn't like some my edits, and tweaking A_Explode to damage certain enemy types

>>1313382

doesn't like my edits*

In fact, it doesn't like any changes made at all to the attack.

>>1313372
/vr/ is a nice board

Does anyone know about any 40K related mods?

>>1313415
I like 40k but making a good 40k mod wold be a bitch and a half.

>>1313415
>>1313425

I loved the idea, as DOOM can hold thousands of monsters, perfect for the scale.

I did an art style test out of curiosity, and that was pretty much it (other than some decorate A.I tests). The project would be too huge, even with a group of wadders working together

I just want to do smaller solo projects, and hope Eternal Crusade is good enough

>>1313428
>The project would be too huge, even with a group of wadders working together

I would not say *too* huge but it would require quite a dedicated team and you would all need to work off the 1 vision.
I could picture it almost like a gameplay mod (with it's own levels though as well).

http://www.doomworld.com/20years/best3.php

Think of the scale of "soulcrusher" on the right.

>>1313430

Either way, the project wont happen. I just want to work on smaller wads

>>1313304
Those look so outstanding. I love the sprites. Have fun animating those...50+ frames not including crouching. What do you have planned for the direct front view?

>>1313431
I would certainly not count on it, but if you have some serious work to show if you put out a call for help later on if you're keen and you are taken much more seriously because the community can see you're not just some random.

>>1313435

As I said, I wouldn't ask for help unless I knew the project would get done. What I've shown is nothing, but just merely playing around. I won't start anything unless I know it can be done, and while ideas can, the wad cant.
I won't reveal my current project till its at least playable, but I can say its much much further than 40k

>>1312509

Is it reasonable to think we could playdoom on a windows tablet? I'd like to find the best solution for playing/modding/building doom stuff while traveling.

The surface is ~250 and this seemed enticing compared to a full laptop.

So the other day I asked if there was a link to all of Jimmy and Essel's music since I see it talked about a lot but have a hard time finding it all in the 1 place.

However I did not save the links as I was on another computer.
Does anybody have them?

>>1313518
Of course there's a port for that. There has to be.

Don't know about ZDoom on it though.

>>1313518
I've seen Doom on a graphics calculator before, so there is bound to be one for you around.

Does anybody else have trouble with Brutal Doom's difficulty over Vanillia Doom? I just tried out brutal doom and it's wonderful, but doing it on UV difficulty rapes me, on the same map however I breezed though it on UV with vanilla. Is the difficulty bullshit or do I just need to git gud?

>>1313536
It does change things up quite a bit, yes.
Imps and shotgunguys are especially more threatening.

>>1313545
Yeah, I noticed, projectiles are like 3 times as fast, imps jump around and scratch your face, shotgun guys deal more damage and fire 8 pellets, fuck, just about every enemy deals a lot more damage.
I better get good and keep trying then , should I lower the difficulty or just keep trying on the current one?

>>1313548
>trying to prove you're good at brutal doom
You might as well try getting good at complex doom while you're at it.

>>1313548
You can lower the difficulty and up it later when you're progressing along, you get the hang of it soon enough though. Especially when you find your own weapons doing more damage as well.

>>1313551
Thanks a lot man, will do.

>>1313554
You misunderstand, i'm not trying to prove i'm good, i'm trying to get better, but i'll look up complex doom though.

>>1313548
You shouldn't be playing anything with Brutal Doom on a higher difficulty than Hurt Me Plenty. Personally, I only Brutal Doom UV on Doom 1 or Thomas van der Velden's Revolution!.

>TSP update tomorrow
(￣ー￣)

>>1313523
>>1313524
There is, but...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-unlock-your-windows-rt-device/
>Don’t let a limited Windows Store and different architecture fool you, Windows RT really is full-blown Windows 8 made for ARM devices. However, Microsoft did actually leave a security lock on the OS much like Apple’s own iOS lock, meaning you can’t run unsigned, third-party programs, even if they have been compiled for Windows RT. This means that special Windows programs that have been re-built for ARM can work, but Microsoft blocks them.

>>1313632
Fucks sake

>Durr fuck freedom and people using programs we dont approve of

>>1312538
I wonder why people are so excited that someone decided to play through Plutonia@Map32, it's not hard unless you attract rockets like stupid magnet. Almost every cyberdemon pack can be beaten in cheesy way with plasmagun spam from the hallways they cannot fit in and you have enough ammo/cyberdemons to sweep every moving thing on the level including said cyberdemons. Though if someone tries to complete it quickly it becomes a real mess and he really wants to 2shot cybies at yellow/blue skull doors. IMO run through HR2@map32 or SoD@Map32 would be more... tricky to pull out, but it'd be as much exciting on the other hand.

>>1313432
Yup! Here ya go. I just chose the A2 angle because it showed off what I wanted to do better.

>>1313649
Very nice. Doing the frontside graphics are always tricky.

>>1313661
I always liked that sprite, you made it right? Her pose with her gun is just awesome, and I was gonna do something like that, but I figured I'd go for the other approach by Mel holding it up right.

>>1313668
>Mel
don't you mean ada the hedgehog?

>>1313672
Yeah, it sucks because I also have to do sprites for her Super Saiyan 1 through 6 forms, her mecha form, her buster sword stance, and I might as well sprite her father Goku, half-brother Doug, and uncle Inuyasha. I also need to give her a badass scar on her face after the countless wars she's been in, and a space suit because space is cool.

oc don't steal

>>1313668
Yea, I'm trying to make as many sprites and stuff as possible for my wad. My goal is 100% original artwork for it. I'm a big fan of pistol poses.

Doombuilder 2 is such comfy software

>>1313687
You did a pretty awesome job! Is her sprite sheet finished?

>>1313685
don't forget her tail and her talking magic animal companion

Is there a way to remove the limit on all sounds without $limit sound 0 for every entry?

Tried a 60 bot deathmatch and it was horrible, often no gunfire sounds at all.

>>1313742
Maybe even a Python script that'll grab all sound names and spit them out as a list with $limit sound 0 on it.

>>1313748
Maybe a regular expression that'll grab all characters in a line after a space, including that space

>>1313364

SLADE

>>1313672
why did that post get deleted? it looked like an ordinary post?

>>1313775
Drama. Compared Mel to a generic Sonic the Hedgehog OC since they're often recolours and Mel is a recolour of Ada from Resident Evil 6.

>>1313776
seemed more like a joke to me, not drama
guess it happens often?

>>1313776
Hey, she's not just a recolor!...she's got a photoshop eyepatch!

I wasn't offended or anything, I thought it was funny. :P At least I made an effort to recolor her, unlike Vexler.

what's the (custom) monster with the biggest amount of sprites out there? I'm asking because I want to figure out already how to deal with naming frames past the Z

>>1313790
Mars3D used slashes but you could change the first four characters as well.

>>1313790
>I'm asking because I want to figure out already how to deal with naming frames past the Z
I don't think you can, you can have 26 animations for one sprite or something, the amount of letters for the alphabet
you could try and trick it by making subtle jump states, but I really don't advise jump states
changing the first 4 characters helps but making it know what other sprites to include is also important, to say the least

>>1313548

Number one strategy for brutal doom: kick. A lot.

Jump kick everything, jump kicking gives MASSIVE speedboosts and does insane damage even without a berserk pack. Put kick on right click and boot everything in the goddamned face.

Ugh, I just can't help but think to the point of maximum sperging about these candelabras in Episode 1. I mean, you've managed to establish a human settlement on one of Mars' moons, and you use this shit as light source?

Once again, I apologize for overthink this kind of stuff on a videogame as if I were doing one of those stupid youtube reviews where they judge the most trivial shit as if videogames were supposed to be "realistic" since their conception.

>>1313906
Yeah, they should have just stuck with the tech lamps but you dont see them so often that I guess it's slipped by people.

>>1313906

Nah it's cool I wondered about that as well.

>>1313906
I think they were supposed to be a subtle bit of hell overtaking the base, like the very beginning of what was happening to the Deimos base.

I thought of them as being techlamps that got converted, but I suppose the demons could have carted them along with them to do some decorating.

If you want to get sperggy though, you should start with the bases being on Phobos and Deimos. Neither is anywhere large enough to have a base on it or even have gravity capable of keeping a human from floating off into space.

>>1313936
Apparently Phobos is slightly smaller than Delaware.

I wonder if the combined length of all of the doom wads ever made actually exceed the moon's surface area.

>>1313783
Not who you're talking to, but I appreciated your comment in the CrazyDoom thread. I'm not the maker of it but I think it's something that needed to be said.
I'm a member on the Zdoom forums but I dont want to earn the ire of those guys or anybody else when I have not even released anything myself yet.

I prefer to keep drama here where we just keep it in a thread and then go to the next one instead of remembering it forever.

>>1313961
....this is actually an interesting question

>>1313963
They can't ban you because Edward and Valerie don't like you.

What are they going to do, release an hour long video of people who didn't know they were being recorded?

>>1313985
Nah I just dont want to make waves.
Or release something on ID games and get more than usual "fuck this shit everything sucks 0/5" votes.

On a more serious note though I just would not want to have serious talks like that on a forum like that, here we can just chat and say what we think but there everything follows you and peoples dramas follow them around and enmity stays.

So I would just be very polite and not say too much.

>>1314009
Fuck it, start some waves. What does it matter? Just the Internet.

Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.

>>1314014
>Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.

Lol, we're not resisting the NSA here or something man. Jokes aside but I see your point and it's on the money.

>>1314028
Dive in.

who would win in a fight

Sergeant_Mark_IV's ego or Edward850's ego

>>1314069
ur mum would

>>1314075
ye

my mom's p cool

>>1314069
Marks, at least he has far more to show for himself.

Plus he would not have a fucking dreadful version of a New Zealand accent.

>>1314081
yeah, NZ accent gives -5 str

>>1314081
>>1314084

Dunno, Zael's accent is pretty fucking sweet.

oh shit the mods are here

>>1314084
Some intonations of it are ok but sometimes it gives the Indian accent a run for the money.

Mancubi eat people

>>1314124

First they make sure they roast 'em with their flamethrowers, then they chew those remains

>>1314127
How do the reach it

I think there's a thing that feeds it

>>1314124

If demons were food, which ones would taste the best and which ones would taste the worst?

Pain elementals look like they might taste the best. Zombies would be the worst, with the chaingunners being the absolute worst because they're fat rotting humans.

I could probably cook up a pain elemental and serve him with some cranberry sauce.

>>1314143
Barons / Knights because they're pretty much beef.

>>1314153
Yeah, them and pinkys which run around and seem the most like herd animals.

I guess it's time for the fourth DOOM gauntlet omnibus, and this time I've taken to casual impatience and nonchalantness. in the interest of keeping things short

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1MAiXyhWk

>>1314167
>That image

I would pick neither and this is coming from the guy who made that "muh purity" picture.
It's kind of yin-yang to me.

>>1314167
>last wad

Hey faggots.

I just beat Doom 2 on Nightmare. You jelly? Yeah you jelly. Stay fucking jelly.

>>1314223
ok

>>1314223
now do plutonia

>>1313719
Oh yea, she's been well finished and incorperated into my wad, I'm working on other creatures at the moment. Feel free to fart around with her. http://www.mediafire.com/download/s2uouivsk0a0h8a/lydia.zip

>>1313230
I agree. Decaf is for massive gay lords.

>>1314275
>centered sprite doesn't match the crosshair
muh autism

>>1314203

Ya it was pretty bad...

>>1314289
I actually never noticed that, thanks for pointing that out.

I'm pretty much a newfag when it comes to modding DooM. I mean I love playing custom wads but I want to make my own. Making maps is something I'm good at, but how do I go about making custom graphics? I have a gun that I could use, but how do I achieve the artistsic semi drawn way DooM's guns look? Alot of you have experience with this I'm sure!

>>1314330
You have to draw it

>>1314330
Have fun anon, I tried working on making a pistol replacement earlier this week but apparently I need to even be able to draw in the first place to do it.

>>1314340
I'm not a terrible drawer, but I don't think I'll be able to create a realistic looking gun. Well I might use photoshop and apply a few effects...

>>1314330
>how do I achieve the artistsic semi drawn way DooM's guns look?

A lot of trouble, a lot of photoshop, and a lot of shading.
There's a few tutorials you can use:

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20793 - Eriance's weapon spriting tutorial.
http://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/weapons/tutorials/gun1.htm - Scuba Steve's weapon spriting tutorial.

>>1314347
The nice thing about Doom is that it doesn't have to be realistic.
It just has to look good.

>>1314365
what do you mean my inventory item that causes you to jump into another dimension and throw punches that shoot out waves of bfg balls as you jump out isn't realistic

that's just silly

Hey, Decorate veteran here. Have any ZDoom / Zandronum Decorate questions?

Specify the port.

>>1314442
why haven't you added actor pointers into zandronum yet

>>1314461
Because I'm not in charge of Actor Pointers.

>edward850 posting screenshots of /vr/ posts about him from yesterday
>everyone tells him to leave it alone

>talk about forums
>forum celebs

what the fuck are you doing /doom/?

>>1314468
This is the last board to go to if you wanna prove 4chan is full of assholes. You guys are some of the nicest faggots ever.

If you are not fighting over Zsnes.

>>1314475
stirring shit up

>>1314481
What about Oragami?

>>1314468
>no edward, you are the baby fucker

i'm gonna try plutonia.wad

what exactly should i expect?

>>1314508
agitation

>>1314508

>>1314442

I'm having a few decorate problems

1. Why can't A_VileAttack be edited for Zandronum?

2. How to change damage type for A_explode or set certain rules to hurt certain monster types

3. How to get a decorate monster to have doomguy COLOURED skin?

I have quite a few decorate problems with my project, if you care to help me out.

>>1314519
1. because zandronum is far behind in decorate
2. you either set the damage type in the actor through DamageType, or A_CustomMissile an explosion actor with the damage type you want, making sure to use CMF_TRACKOWNER

3. ??????

zdaemon or zandronum?

>>1314519
>1. Why can't A_VileAttack be edited for Zandronum?

Because that was added in 2.7.1 of zdoom and zand isn't up to that yet

>2. How to change damage type for A_explode or set certain rules to hurt certain monster types

Give the actor a damagetype and then give the monsters you want to take different damage amounts from normal damage a damagefactor for that damage type. If it's a monster that's exploding use a_spawnitemex to spawn a projectile that immediately explodes instead of having the monster explode since sometimes damagetypes work funny for monsters.

>3. How to get a decorate monster to have doomguy COLOURED skin?

Set translation when spawned, you'll have to specify which color range to translate into the other range.

hi scroton

>>1314525
Zandronum because ZDaemon is stupidly far behind, closed-source, and is admined by someone who will ban you just for disagreeing with him.

>>1314525
Zdaemon as it doesn't have the faggot community like zandronum does.

>>1314521

1. But out of all the availability I've learnt in decorate, this one wont work compared to others. I'm working on a multiplayer wad, so zandronum is the most popular multiplayer source right?

2. Ok makes sense for part1. If i'm using damage type "slime" will that hurt the player only since monsters dont get affected by slime sectors. Also there's something a bit more advanced about this problem if you care to talk to me on a messenger or something.

3. Playerskins have different colours for PLAY (doomguy), how can I access these when I want a decorate MONSTER to use PLAY?

My doomseeker use to be able to search for Zdeamon servers. Now it won't.
How do i access this?

>>1314536

download Doomseeker right from their website

>>1314531
Sounds good to me. Not like any of you zandrokiddies know how to actually program for the life of you.

>>1314525

Why use ZDaemon

What does it

>>1313695
Comfy and feels do not mean the same thing. Please do not ruin comfy like you have everything else.

>>1314547
why be a nigger

>>1314532
1. as I said, it's outdated; this should hopefully become available in z& 2.0, but until then, you'll have to work with a feature set that's over 3 major versions out of date

2. damaging floors only damage players simply through how they work; the damage type has nothing to do with it

3. are you asking about changing certain colors on a sprite to other colors? if so, look at http://zdoom.org/wiki/Translation
if not, then you'll have to clarify further

>>1314547

multiplayer Doom

i feel a certain german shitposter is among us

>>1314548
Edward? Stop trying to troll, you aren't good at it.

>>1314554
Another thing about zandronum. You're a bunch of skyping faggot normalfags who all know each other.
Stay on facebook, "john"

>>1314549

1. I needed that attack to do certain actions such as the thrust and instant damage. So if I can find another way to do these...

2. I've not used damage types yet, so I have to research it more.

3. Looks complicated, but it seems to solve my answer

>>1314556

me too, better nuke everything

>>1314558
Oh no, you aren't Edward.

>>1314564
>Nobody gives a shit about your stupid maymays.

I'm not the one who posted it. Goddammit, don't turn this on me yet again.

>>1314551
Nobody gives a shit about your stupid maymays.

>>1314556
Another thing, it is filled with eurotrash and third world south american rainforest monkeys. I have even seen chinks and sandniggers.
No americans though, very rare to see one.
I wonder why?

>>1314551
>Comfy
What's this hot new meme

...What is it like to be comfy

Reminder: Report and ignore shitposters.

I hope the mods and janitors are feeling comfy

>>1314570

I, too, wish I knew what it felt like to be comfy.

>>1314562
try A_GiveToTarget with a custominventory that explodes and spawns fire, might do what you want

make sure to do an A_JumpIfTargetInLOS check beforehand

>>1314562
see>>1314527

>>1314584
by the way, in zandronum the syntax is simply A_JumpIfTargetInLOS(state[, fov])

so A_JumpIfTargetInLOS("SimulateFire") would do it

>>1314289
>>1314315
Vanilla Doom did that shit too, but they didn't count on crosshairs being added, I guess.

Plus 320x200 = who gave a fuck.

>>1314584
>>1314591
>>1314592

Thanks, solved some things.
Others... more complicated

add me on steam for more details
Blackgaze

When is the next MSX release?
What will it change?

Is there any Cart racing doom mods? From what Ive gathered there was something called DooM Kart that was discontinued, but is that it?

So I have a monster randomization wad and I'd like to be able to disable certain sets of monsters using custom cvars.

Anyone have any idea of how I would go about doing this?

Zandronum btw.

Does anyone have the cover art for Doom and/or Doom II in an absurd resolution? For pic related.

>>1314715
WHY

Although I've always kinda wanted to play Doom with a joystick, spinner, and arcade pushbuttons...

>>1314715
There's this poster, I dunno if anyone has it in higher resolution - box arts cannot even be scanned to this high detail.

>>1314715
and this is for doom 2, it probably exists in higher res though.

anything as good as that doom poster would have to be scanned from an actual poster or perhaps the original paintings (?), because something like a cover art is just not good enough print quality to reach this high resolutions.

>>1314739
>WHY

I bet it's less awkward than keyboard only. I do intend to play Doom on it for shits and giggles, but I'm going to mostly be playing fighters, beat 'em ups, shmups, and late 70s/early 80s stuff that uses a 4-way stick and very few buttons. Doom just happens to be my favorite game, and I cant think of another I'd rather have all over my cabinet.

If I knew the first thing about WADsmithing, I'd make an arcade experience mod with a scoring system and a high score board and a time limit and an "insert coin" key.

>>1314760
If you made that mod it would be in my autoload
Can't imagine how time limit would work tho

>>1314754
>>1314758
Thanks. I was actually using that Doom poster in that exact resolution. The Doom 2 poster is a little better than what I had. Would converting them to vector in InkScape help the image scale better?

>>1314772
Of course it would if you had the patience.

Have any of you guys played the version of Doom on the Virgin America planes? It was pretty fucking horrible but I still found it neat that they even bothered putting it on their console thing when I was flying to go visit family a few years ago.

http://www.siliconera.com/2008/02/27/linux-gaming-lives-in-the-sky-doom-on-virgin-america%E2%80%99s-console/

>>1314685
First question: No idea
Second question: Alternate firing modes for all weapons and an arm blade

>>1314816
>Pistol: 3rd burst
>Shotgun: Empties mag in .5 second

>>1314786
Does the chaingun spin clockwise or counterclockwise?

Are y'all ready for some fucking Metroid deathmatch?
Server going up in 15.

>>1314895
MFW too lazy to dl and install Z&
Or am I?

>>1314890

>>1314895
my body is ready
come on, my body is ready

sup guys watcha doin?

>>1314919
>>1314895
gib server 2 riptear

>>1314786

>>1314895
:: [BE] New York :: Metroid: Dreadnought - DM Testing

gogogogogo

>>1314715
I have this sitting in my wallpaper folder.

>>1314772
Just make sure you fix the fucking black box on the Doom logo that nobody ever bothers with. Just selecting it and adjusting the brightness does the trick.

Read the story: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=14650

DOOM shall never die, only the players.

>>1315053
That guy is really mad about his boss.

Why is this allowed?

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Samsara
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Classic_Rivalry

Also if I replace the classic rivalry article with a redirect to samsara will I get banned?

>>1315183

Looks like zygo worked more often on the wiki page than he did the mod

>>1315265

>>1315183
Writing your own wiki page doesn't make your mod good.

>will I get banned?
Give it a shot. If you do it respectfully and still get banned, that site has some political issues to work out (and good riddance to them meanwhile).

>>1315309
>replace the article
>replace
Obviously I can't read. You'll get banned, but it'd be funny.

>>1314754
Here's a slightly less high res, but cleaned up version.

>>1315334
By slightly I mean half res. Not as slight as I thought.

>>1315183

Why instead acting like a troll faggot, you just make Samsara's article yourself instead? Or if your nigger ass is too lazy, you can just controlpaste the Doom Wiki article.

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Samsara

Guys, how do you fix this? I spent the last half hour tweaking things and this is the best I managed to remove the black bar. It's much better but you can still see it especially if you know what you're looking for.

I'm too lazy for this shit.

>>1315386
I did this in response to >>1314941 since >>1314754 is clearly messed up.

In retrospect I should've started with the higher quality image but since I did a poor job to begin with I don't feel bad.

>>1315386
Looks good but the fireball should be infront of the logo, not behind it

What level set do most people agree on being the best one?

>>1315424
It depends what you want, especially if you're using gameplay mods after playing through them on vanilla.

Russian Overkill is amazing fun in slaughtermaps. Though right now I'm doing a run through of Alien Vendetta with Samsara as Duke.

>>1315402
You were right! Moving the fireball fixed it.

Thanks, pal.

>>1313521
>>1313521
>>1313521
Guys?

>>1313521
>>1315447

Use foolz, brah

>>1315334
Here's a cleaned up version of the higher res. Too big for 4chan.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/myfiles/#o33ld5c3x6hzoan

>>1315424
The community will never agree on any one megawad being the best. There's just too many to choose from, and they're all excellent for their own reasons. Personally though my favorite is Epic 2. Excellent atmosphere, very good gameplay and it actually feels like a journey. It's one of the only wads that pulls off the inventory reset nicely, too.

>>1315430
I want some pretty good levels.
Preferably with rainy or snow themes.

For gameplay mods I am pretty much set.
What with Eriguns and Project MSX slightly edited so it's a girl character and soon a better version of Space Pirate.

Just need some good levels.

>>1315472
Do you mind if there are zdoom features or not?

Anyway, there is both rainy and snow levels in Ultimate Torment and Torture but that is not the main theme of the levels.

>>1315474
I have many source ports to choose from and have no loyalty to any.
I'm open to just about any and all sorts of good levels. Although maybe not Slaughtermaps unless they have terrific pacing. I get a little bored during those

I'd just prefer rain and snow.

But something like.. I don't know, what >>1315471 said with Epic 2 and desert levels and the like are fine too.

>>1313642

but here's the catch, pal.

the whole event is dedicated to speedrun well-known games from their respective franchises. I am willing to bet that Plutonia got through for the sole reason of Dime being invited to the event, and him being a well-known and skilled Doom speedrunner.

They would rarely acknowledge fan-made material as qualified stuff to be shown in the event, they just recently accepted to run a Megaman NES romhack in the past edition of Summer Games Done Quick, they wouldn't accept stuff like Hell Revealed and Deus Vult unless a big, and extremely special exception occurs.

Also, Go 2 It is arguably the hardest map from any Doom compilation officially released by id software, this is a good chance to show off what Doom's about

>>1315481
>>1313642
The level certainly catches you by surprise the first time you see it and you have not seen any levels like it.

When I first played through Plutonia way back when I was like "geeeeeet fuuuuucked" when I started it but then got through it.

>>1315447
>>1315449
No luck.

>Finish downloading the 12 gig Doom wad torrent
>Going through them and notice one called Robocop
>Get my hopes up because I fucking love Robocop like the stereotype of an autistic child loves Sonic
>The wad is absolute shit

I should have learned after Robocop 2 but I can't stop getting my hopes up for anything Robocop after the first movie. Oh well, anyone else have that 12 gig wad collection? How are you deciding which wads to play first?

>>1315507

Really?

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1300834/#1305141

>>1315512
That collection sounds fucking baller.

I'd love to check it out.

>>1315517
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

Lots of shit

>>1315527

>IMX's plasma pistol got made already

any link?

Well, Realm677 shuffle was fun at first, but it kinda stops being fun with random OP enemy spawns and getting power weapons much earlier than you should.

I think I'll stick with FKER, much more balanced monster mash style wad.

Has anyone else ever beat Ghoul's Forest 3 without loading a save?

I even did this on my first try after like...six or so months since last trying it. Fucking crazy. The first three ghouls were cake, Sjas was kind of a cunt as usual, but Yurei took her time sneaking up on me, as I probably heard about ten or more heartbeats before I finally arrowed that bitch. Feels good, doomguy.

>>1315536

>we will never play DSP's Forest because Rottking a shit

>>1315536
I've beaten it without loading as well.

It's okay.

Creeper freaks me the fuck out still. It's the whispers
It's more fun with a group of people.

>>1315537
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCent_2q7ZE

If it has that Hokuto No Ken music in it as well, it'd be cacoward material.

Defund military; put money into the United States infrastructure and thus the pockets of the lower and middle class.

>>1315513
Well herp a derr to me then, thanks m8.

I was looking in other previous threads but I'd gone too far back.

Sucks there's no essel link though.
http://essel.spork-chan.net/tunes/

That's his website but I figured there would be a dedicated doom music section.

>>1315536
I would play it if it didn't have that screamer at the end of it. I actually like the atmosphere of being alone in the dark woods with creepy enemies coming one at a time. It's surprising how little horror themes games took advantage of the woods.

Ahem, about that release today!

I'm going to be pretty busy today with real life so I might not be able to release it, but rest assured, today or tomorrow! Keep rockin' guys, this update is well worth the wait!

>>1315582
Because I'm nice (and I want people to keep being interested), here's the changelog for TSP Neo v0.1.1!

- New weapon! "Dahlia" Custom Concealable Crossbow!
- New weapon! “Leviathan” Triple-Barrel Shotgun!
- New weapon! Marston Arms RPG-2090 (The “Toolbox”)
- New weapon...kinda! Dual wield your Makoto Arms 919m pistol for maximum damage output!
- New animations for the 919m reload, speeding it up quite a bit!
- New frames of animation for Zeke to make both pump animations even!
- AB-50 has a new reload animation, and a new alternate attack! Whoa!
- Robo Mel cometh!...what does that mean?
- Pistol maximum bumped up! You now start with an extra mag!
- fixed typo in the pickup for the Miracle Sphere.
- fixed sounds cutting off due to reload shenanigans
- New pickup sounds for ammo drops!
- Redone visual effects for Mag Pull! (which looks much prettier in GZDoom...)
- Mag Grapple and Melee Attacks occupy their own button! Check it out in the menu!
- Barrels are no longer effected by melee attacks using punches/kicks or Mel's Mag Grapple!
- And a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting!

>>1315597
>>1315582
Thanks m80

>>1315597
>>1315582
Today or tomorrow, it doesn't matter.

Really appreciate all the hard work you're putting into the mod, mate.

>>1315557
>I would play it if it didn't have that screamer at the end of it
that's only if you die
and the creeper is considered a screamer

have there been any good doom/hexen/heretic/strife dungeon crawl-esque mods anyone could recommend to me?

>>1315752
dungeon crawl-esque mods?

>>1315758
you move through a dungeon killing monsters, esque is a fancy way of saying "like"
dungeon crawling-like mods
you've played a dungeon crawler before, right?

>>1315750
Aren't they all technically screamers? They all suddenly come out of nowhere with high-pitched yelling, they just each have different methods of doing so.

>>1315760
yeah but i was wanting to see what you meant by it, anyway i dont know of any which is a bummer because they would be pretty fun to play

thing is though that they would need to be big and long to really get the feel going

>>1315775
well, by definition a screamer is a big scary face and a really loud noise to scare the player
the creeper is closest because you can't see it properly and you can hardly hear it, and when it gets you it pops up on your screen and screams
the yurei doesn't scream it just shows a montage of gore when she gets you
sjas, jitterskull and the other ones, eyevore or something? they just go around being all creepy but you can see them
when sjas hits you it does scream, so I suppose it could count, and I can't remember about one of the ghouls' brothers which was in the first one(?) did, I think jitterskull just bumps into you

>>1315780
you're right, I suppose
the doom engine is quite limited but I am sure it can do something of the like

>>1315785
It could easily do something like that, that is not the problem.
It's just going to the effort of it.

That said have you played Strife? It gets a bit dungeon crawly I think.
Though it is not medieval.

>>1315752
Serpant Resurrection fits that bill pretty well. It's got a hub system through the entire thing, money and levelling up (and the level at the very end is a multi-floorer monstrosity that took me near enough an entire day to get through)

it's amazing and will last you a long time

>Playing Brutalized Doom, which is basically vanilla Doom kicked up several notches in difficulty
>Just entered E2M6, Halls of the Damned
>Pretty much the only vanilla map that is still difficult to me even in vanilla game, and can still scare the shit out of me

I think I'll need a hug. Can someone give me a hug?

something's gone wrong!
I just opened up gzdoom to play DOOM II and the actors are clipping into the floor
how do I change that?

>>1315265
>>1315270
The fuck's this? I'm curious, someone tell me more.

>>1312551
Double Impact
Good maps.

>>1316192
Phobia: The Age
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=14248
look at the filename next time

>>1316164
>play this
>E1M2
>cacodemons
Into the trash it goes.

>>1316297
What's wrong with cacodemons in E1M2? Personally I found it a thrilling surprise.

>>1316315
Cacodemons aren't supposed to show up until E2 though. It triggers muh autism.

So, I have never played Doom before. About to play it now.

What should I keep in mind? What difficulty should a beginner play on?

>>1316329
Good thing you didn't play any farther away, or you would have found a plasma rifle too!

>>1316335
You'll probably do fine on Hurt Me Plenty.

>>1316335

try HMP first, and see how you fare

So I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, or even if I'll get a non-hostile answer but I'm pretty new to PC Doom. I just recently downloaded ZDoom and a moment ago it was working but now it keeps giving me an error that says

>"GetLastError: 126"

Can anyone tell this n00b how to fix it?

>>1316343

are you trying to play with a mod?

>>1316329
>yfw psx doom has a pain elemental in e1m1

>>1316350

No, just trying to test the game on it's own, but later on I was going to put in the Army of Darkness WAD.

>>1316353

What version of ZDoom you have?

>>1316359

ZDOOM v1.22

Once I deleted the WAD it seemed to work properly.

>>1316356
yeah but have you noticed, those were officially placed there
I like the placement for those things, there's a chaingunner in the 2nd level, and there are mancubi in tower of babel
I think they suit where they're put

...someone please tell him for me

>>1316164
>E1M1
>Monsters: 169

>>1316372

>>1316369
Actually, I'd love it if Brutalized Doom had some Doom 2 monsters

So I decided to play Unholy Realms. So far design was good but nothing extraordinary.

However I've now reached map 7 and design is absolutely EXCELLENT in this one

D2TWID.WAD requires the dehacked patch for MAP31 and MAP32. Fuckers should have said so in the readme, I was wandering around wondering what the fuck until I saw a video on youtube.

>>1316404
I thought DTWIDD was a masterpiece but was VERY disappointed with 2 which I played only a few days ago. It was average at best. A few maps stand out but most of it is just not so good.
It felt as if they took the "the way id did" excuse to quickly throw out maps with amateurish texturing and predictable in every way instead of, like for 1, taking the concept and pushing it further.

>>1316414
But to be fair, Doom 2 also had vastly inferior map design compared to the first.

>>1316420
Yes that's true, especially the city maps.

I'm considering doing some hexen stuff for my next mapping project, and I had a question:

What's the general consensus/how do you feel about non-hexen monsters in hexen maps? Things that fit the sword and sorcery setting, like for instance off the top of my head skeleton archers?

What about doom monsters (and their various player made flavors)? I'm talking specifically about the non-human non-cyber "classic hell" ones. What about doom hell textures and their various edits/versions?

IMO I think doom has classic hell feel down really well, but I want to make sure it won't just feel like doom to the player. The reason I'm asking this at all is just because it seems like compared to doom Hexen doesn't have as much custom content to work with and I'd like to give more variety to the player.

>>1316427
>What's the general consensus/how do you feel about non-hexen monsters in hexen maps?
No cybernetics or hitscanners
No guns.

It applies across the board for Hexen and Heretic in all regards.

There's no reason for classic Hell style to not work for Hexen.

And Hexen won't feel like Doom unless you try to combine it with a slaughtermap style.

>>1316420
>>1316414
>>1316426


You know what would be an AWESOME project?

D2TWRWHD

Doom 2 The Way Romero Would Have Done

>>1316443
I'd be all down for that.

>>1316365
>ZDOOM v1.22

God damn that's older than the hills.

>>1316442

Awesome. Do you think it would be best if I stuck to doom monster edits rather than vanilla ones to further distance it from doom or would vanilla work fine?

>>1316339
>>1316340

Did some messing around on HMP.

I'm surprised at how complex the level design is in this game. Got me a chaingun, killed a few things that looked like shaved pink gorillas.

Haven't died yet. Should I bump up the difficulty or is this par for the course?

I'm really, really not experienced with FPS games. Only other one I've played is Serious Sam.

>>1316365
ZDoom 1.x is before DECORATE. 1.22 was released in 1999.

You *seriously* need to upgrade. Not even ZDaemon is that far behind (it uses 1.23). That's the version Odamex uses, and it's not exactly known for being modern.

>>1316383
So that's how they fit 300 monsters on this map.

>>1316461

keep playing, once you finish E1M8 (you will know when it happens) try giving it a playthrough in Ultra Violence

>>1316461
>I'm surprised at how complex the level design is in this game. Got me a chaingun, killed a few things that looked like shaved pink gorillas.

Yeah it's pretty awesome. A lot of pwads crank up that complexity too.

And those are called "Demons" but everyone calls them pinkies or pinky demons


>Haven't died yet. Should I bump up the difficulty or is this par for the course?

Keep going and see; if you haven't died yet you probably need to bump up the difficulty. Dying frequently isn't bad for a newbie, just so long as it doesn't feel "bullshit hard."

>I'm really, really not experienced with FPS games. Only other one I've played is Serious Sam.

That's actually a pretty good starting point for doom, Serious Sam was influenced a lot by games like Doom and Quake.

Also this >>1316462 >>1316447

>>1316451
I've seen plain old Doom monsters in Heretic and they fit in fine.

I don't see why they wouldn't fit in Hexen.
They'd probably get killed really fast though considering the strength of Hexen weaponry

>>1316471

I highly doubt it's the same dude with the old-ass ZDoom

I just hosted my first doom server to emulate classic doom / doom 2 for friends who haven't played.

I cant find my own server on internet Doom Explorer but I have had randoms join. So I figure it's working right?

>>1316476

if peeps are joining, I guess so

>>1316461
Doom was originally meant to be playable keyboard-only, so with a good mouse it's a pretty easy game on anything besides UV/NM.

>>1316473

Oh, woops.

>>1316478
I should refrain from putting my ip to avoid being DDOSed shouldn't I?

>>1316479

While I'll agree it's balanced towards keyboard-only I'll head off any potential arguing about keyboard vs mouse by mentioning that prboom style mouse (mouse turn without the ability to look up and down) and changing your keybindings in config has been in since the doom alphas.

>>1316479
The game had full mouse support + sensitivity controls on release.

Joystick as well.
It was meant to be played how you want to.

PAR times were made with mouse and keyboard

>>1316487
no ones going to ddos you

>>1316503
192.168.1.106:10666
Welp I hope that works.

>>1316505
Well played.

>>1316505
>192.168
You're lucky I don't have my reaction images on this computer.

>>1316505
I lied, I'm actually ddosing the fuck out of you

hold on why is my internet going so slow

I'm looking for wads with good bosses, if there are any.

I've already played Soulcrusher and Winter's Fury, which I thought were good. I guess I'm looking for something a bit more vanilla.

Any recommendations?

>>1316509
>>1316514
>>1316515
should it be something else?

>>1316447
>>1316462

Fixed it. I'm a goddamn fool. Just downloaded the most recent version. Thank you for helping.

>>1316517

>I guess I'm looking for something a bit more vanilla.
>Good bosses

Your only chance relies in ZDCMP2

>>1316519
Google "my ip"