/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1288093
For an FPS I'd say Perfect Dark on Perfect Agent mode for N64.
One of the best FPS games of its time and the difficulty actually adds objectives and improves AI as compared to take more damage do less damage.

Battletoads

>>1288104

>Perfect Dark

Go away, Console-only Conrad. Your shitty N64 game isn't a good FPS

>>1288110
Just because you like arena shooters (I presume) doesn't mean this is a bad game.

>>1288093
Most any game by Treasure, though I wouldn't say they're incredibly difficult.

>>1288110
>tfw even /vr/ isn't safe from senseless shitposting

>>1288114

Just because you've never played a PC game doesn't mean it's a good game. Controls are ass, AI is dick

>>1288110
>>>/v/
Perfect Dark is pretty good and its not console only,you can emulate it

>>1288110
gtfo /vr/ faget

Tomb Raider

Bomberman 64. It's not exactly super challenging, but it's not a cakewalk either.

Ninja Gaiden series is probably a good place for OP to start...

The good NES games known for their difficulty are Battletoads, Ninja Gaiden, Contra and Castlevania.
I prefer the first 3, because in the first 3 you always know what you have to do to win, in Castlevania it is almost impossible to beat the game using only your whip and you have to learn (google) the right strategy to beat the bosses with the items.

NetHack

Kabuki Quantum Fighter
Zen: Intergalactic Ninja
Metal Storm
Darkwing Duck
Bucky o' Hare

>>1288389
The hell you do. I beat CV1 without ever using google.

>>1288432
Here we go

He's talking about normal people

>>1288390
this. the gameplay is white hot fun and controls tighter than your little sister's butthole

>>1288489
>Being incapable of figuring a game out on your own, yet still trying to spin it so you seem superior

>>1288514

and it's extra weird in this case because a good enough strategy in the first Castlevania is just, "use boomerangs on bosses"

which anybody can figure out

Raiden Fighters Jet

Also Dimahoo if it counts, made in 2000.

>>1288724
>>1288728
>mfw those graphics

bump

>>1288717
LOL holy water stunlock owns everything.

Are PC games allowed in this thread? Baldur's Gate games all day.

Go for it

Forum rules say the cutoff is 1999?

Starcraft.

>>1290529
This and Empire Strikes Back are both fun as fuck and also pretty difficult. Lots of variety in the gameplay too

Return of the Jedi was okay but was the weakest of the three IMO

>>1288104
My topic for this game got dupe file, so let me try here (sorry if this is hijacking too much):

Autoaim on or off? On seems too easy and off seems a bit too hard, and the difference between the two is quite noticeable. I don't like how autoaim seems to make your cursor find targets through floors and walls, but I don't exactly like trying to aim without it, especially in multiplayer. Any advice from more experienced players? I only just started playing the game.

>>1290516
I tried holy water once and it didn't work for me, so I assumed it wasn't as good as cross. I know now from watching speedruns, but on my first play I did beat it mostly without ever touching holy water. I won't pretend to be those supergods that beat it with leather whip only though.

Mega Man, Zelda II, Ninja Gaiden, Thunder Force IV, the first Shinobi game for the Genesis,

>>1288390

This too.

Also found pic related to be hard as fuck.

>>1290831
This is actually news to me. I've played through the first three games several times and I was always under the impression that holy water was shit. When/how do you use it?

>>1290870
I always thought that too. The OP about holy water is because it sits there burning for a couple seconds so you don't really aim it, you just throw it where a boss is going to be. It does damage over time and it also makes a lot of bosses freeze. If you have double or triple and enough hearts many, if not most bosses can be beaten with holy water only, not even whip.

>>1290878
I'm betting this awful piece of shit doesn't fall to that trick so easily.

>>1290917
I saw a TAS where he was so stunlocked he couldn't even move. Granted that was a TAS, but I imagine it's possible on the real thing.


And yeah, that guy was such a fucker.

>>1290917
He does. Try it for yourself and see.

>>1290917
He's the easiest one to take down with the holy water, actually. Just keep spamming them on that platform on the right and he never even has a chance.

I remember it being pretty hard. Had to memorize every stage to beat it.
Also, I recently replayed the Strike series again (Urban, Desert, Jungle) and it's actually gotten more difficult for me. I can't really say as to why.

>>1288389
>I tried holy water once and it didnt work for me, so I assumed it wasn't as good as cross. I know now from watching speedruns, but on my first play I did beat it mostly without ever touching holy water. I won't pretend to be those supergods that beat it with leather whip only though.


I am the person who posted this.
I didnt have much problem until Death, I watched a few walkthroughs and speed runs and I thought I was screwed because I had no holy water and it must be super hard to beat it with the whip.
I managed to beat it with the cross, you can throw it immediately twice, and it hits twice because it's like a boomerang.

I beat the first form of Dracula with the whip, and the second with holy water + whip (didn't have enough hearts for just holy water)

>>1292026
Sorry, I mean, I am the person who posted this "The good NES games known for their difficulty are Battletoads, Ninja Gaiden, Contra and Castlevania.
I prefer the first 3, because in the first 3 you always know what you have to do to win, in Castlevania it is almost impossible to beat the game using only your whip and you have to learn (google) the right strategy to beat the bosses with the items"

>>1292030
>in Castlevania it is almost impossible to beat the game using only your whip and you have to learn (google) the right strategy to beat the bosses with the items"
You purposefully cut gameplay elements (subweapons), then blame the game for it? What the fuck? And... you googled to beat Castlevania? Fucking seriously?

Giving you the benefit of doubt, I would suppose you are talking about the Dracula boss fight. Well, there is an easy tactic, but he's perfectly beatable with any subweapon or just the whip, too. It's not like you can't progress without some sort of cheat. The subweapon you're supposed to discover yourself - and keeping it is not an easy task either, even if you know which particular one you need.

In a word, that's stupid.

>>1292030
>in Castlevania it is almost impossible to beat the game using only your whip

and in NG it is almost impossible to beat the game using only your sword. and in Contra it is almost impossible to beat the game using only your standard gun.

>>1288110

Fear Effect 2

Part puzzles, part survival horror, part action game, all lesbians

>>1290805
I always played with autoaim on. Never tried switching it off, but I imagine it must be way goddamn hard. I think autoaim is actually your friend, and it does not really makes thing that much easier. Play it on Perfect Agent and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And if you're playing on the N64, please, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD switch for 1.2 controls instead os 1.1. The stick is meant for aiming, and the C-buttons for movement. It gives you a much more precise control of the aim.

Ketsui. Best shmup in MAME, challenging enough that I can't get past stage 4.

If you want something easier, Espgaluda runs on the same engine and is much more approachable for noobs. I've 1CCed Espgaluda (hint: don't rely on your autobombs, manual bombing is much better).

>>1292054
but this was a different time when you heard through word of mouth how to beat bosses, or were lucky to have that rich friend who had a nintendo power sub

Rondo of blood, not that challenging but very, very fun