/vr/ - Retro Games

Don't you know that Segatasan died so that Sega might live?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIYDxmnKHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNmm9O3cZM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UoZ1LnYCYo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v89TpTejzdI

>>1266979

But Sega didn't live...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvlwBAcHV-s

>>1267000
But it might have.

>Segatasan died in vain
>So did Sega
He really was the most appropriate mascot.

So how is that Segata game, anyway? Any good?

>>1267263
It is the ultimate Segatasan experience.

>>1266976
Just watched most if not all of the commercials. Makes me miss seeing mascots for systems. I wish he would've hip tossed those kids when he was pretending to be Santa.

>>1266976

>having your PC in your gaming room.

Doesn't work for me. I'll always distracted.

>>1267000
It....does?

Sega is still making arcade games, as it should be.

It's a-alright your g-g-greatness, I p-played Sega Saturn t-today. I'm s-safe from punishment t-today r-right?

>>1267327
Play now!

So...what are the actual must-play titles on the Saturn?

I like Astal.

>>1267314
Wow never thought about that
clearing out the spare room now pls be true

>>1267460
So fucking many awesome arcade ports. OP is a huge Saturn fan and I just discovered this existed, despite also being a huge Hard Drivin' fan.

Neither this nor the PSX-J game Race Drivin' a Go Go are listed under ports in the English Wikipedia article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Beu53lwqYQ

Probably the best port there is and with additional content, quite possibly superior to the arcade version. Too bad no support for tactile feedback like the arcade (or multi-screen panorama)

I love how the cover illustration looks like the Pole Position cartoon. That's some Atari love right there.

>>1267314
What if you do PC gaming. Me I have my old consoles at my desk.

>>1266976
>"Dear god, I'm s-s-s-sorry Segata-san!"
>*Puts me in choke-hold like the kids in the Sonic R commercial*
>Walks off
>I get another white Saturn for free

here's the Sonic R commercial for those who would like to see it again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7Z-JkwGeg

I never thought I'd have another reason to post this again.

>>1267538
I was on /v/ that day. Warm fuzzies.

>>1267538

Fucking saved.

Also, yes Segata, I was playing Sonic Jam, and will play some VF2 next.

>>1267263
If you're expecting a minigame collection like Feel the Magic or Rub Rabbits, set your expectations a little lower. Like, expect a newgrounds flash game experience.

BEST SYSTEM EVER.
i dunno how many tiimes on /vr i have posted about saturn's supremacy. hell, i even uploaded all those segata commercials and posted that here as well.

ps4 and xbox1 are no substitute for a sega saturn.
play.
till your fingers break!

I play my saturn errday segatasan, I have been building my library and just got this game today, only saturn is real

>>1266992
Does the Japanese version of Burning Rangers still have English voice acting? I don't want to pay like $80 for the American version.

>>1267263
It's amazing. You should play it IMMEDIATELY!

>>1266976
b-b-b-but my desk has no room for my modchipped Saturn
Though I could probably get away with it by swapping out the Dreamcast on my console tower of power

>>1268961
you gotta play the special mode. it's fucking insane. juggles, more special moves, none of that gay 3-hit-and-knock-down rule

>>1269024
awesome I will keep that in mind, thanks anon.

>>1268976
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKf9DuhiZmI

>>1266976
can't emulate saturn for shit, damn yabause.

>>1269528
Yabause is useless for everything but limited debugging (and they are ruining that part as well).

Use SSF, it could get 80% of games perfect since 2007.

>>1269541
I always found it funny that Saturn games run like shit on older computers but PS1 games run fine

>>1269593
Probably cause PS1 emulators have been worked on for who knows how long.

>>1269593
Why? The Saturn was built in a really weird way compared to most systems and doesn't have a large fanbase compared to the Playstation. It makes perfect sense that emulation for hasn't been great for a while.

>>1269610
Its got a bigger fanbase than the shitty n64 hough

>>1269690
In Japan maybe.

>>1266976
Holy shit how could I forget about Sanshiro

hahaha what a good mascot

>>1269695
yeah of course I mean globally, n64 only every got any recognition in NA

I've playing lots of Darius Gaiden, Blast Wind and Cotton Boomerang. Love the Saturn's shump collection.

Been hooked on this, cleared it last night on 8 star difficulty. None of my friends are into fighters, so I really have nobody to play against.

Kirby vs Segata

>>1270354
no continues right?

>>1270361
Segata punches a hole in him from the inside.

>>1270354
Still my favourite Street Fighter ever, except maybe Third Strike. I've got a Saturn arcade stick, the PAL version of that and the Japanese gold version - gaming bliss.

>>1270354
Hey you, yeah you. You got excellent taste. I don't know why but it feels like most people forgot about Street Fighter Alpha 2 these days which makes me sad because it's my favorite Street Fighter.

>>1270354
Fuckin awesome game.

>None of my friends are into fighters, so I really have nobody to play against.

>mfw i feel your pain anon.

>>1266976
>go to play real bout fatal fury special
>all this shit on my bed to wrap christmas gifts on
>don't feel like moving it all

>>1269541
Does final fight revenge emulate well? last I heard it still was buggy as fuck.

>>1270548

No, but that's the goal actually. Plan on getting better this weekend.

>>1270567
>>1270689

SFA2 is very good! It's very satisfying to pull a counter off, especially in the middle of blocking a try-hard combo. I get this giddy rush of satisfaction doing it (pic related)

>>1270701

I'm with you totally. I love my fighters and shumps (and thus, my Saturn), but I'm the only one around to share that enthusiasm with those genres. I've tried to show my closest friend the joys of arcade-style games, but he never really bites on it. And when I meet new people, they're usually always into action platformers, have minimal or no interest in shmups or fighters, and they turn a brow up when I start gushing about Saturn stuff, because nobody (beyond the Japanese or importers) is really aware that it actually had a ton good games.

>>1270935
Oh lol yah if you want to continue I could 8 star any fighting game out there lol I always have trouble with bosses although I have kind of figured out how to spank apocalypse on marvel super heroes and xmen vs street fighter. Son of a bitch mecha gouki still has my ass though.

>>1270976

Sagat is a cunt. Unless I force him into the corner and cheese him, there's no chance.

>>1271007
Yeah fuck haha mother fucker is the tiger king for a reason. Shit man I wish I had Street Fighter Zero 2 now I only have the poopy snes version.

>>1271094

For me, the fight is probably 80% luck. Jump over the first projectile, land the kick on the way down, hope he doesn't block the next few attacks as I push him to the corner, and hope I don't catch a 5-7 chain hit uppercut when he gets up again. I can't find any other tactic that works, If I don't jump on him right away, he'll push me back and if that happens twice, it's over. He's too fast and too powerful to be getting cornered by.

>>1271116
Exploit sagats long kicks and alpha counter the shit out of him

>>1267538
This made me laugh so fucking much

>>1270935
You would have loved the official sega saturn magazine. It was fucking amazing, and the main reason i'm now so fucking versed at shmups and fighters. Fuck that magazine gave away the eintire first disk of dragoon saga as a cover disk.

And fuck, my saturn is 3 region modded, why the fuck have i not just pirated the segata game and disk swapped?

>>1271570

I'll try countering him more. I get jumbled up on whether I'm trying to counter a high or low attack.

Also, thanks for telling me about Saturn mag. I found
>http://www.outofprintarchive.com/catalogue/officialsegasaturnmagazine.html
and I'll be reading these definitely.

Your Saturn is modded JP/US/EUR I'm taking it? I was considering doing that a year or two ago, but just ended up just taping down the door switch in my model 2 and used region patched ISOs. I use that one for playing burned games on, then buy the ones I like for my JP model 1.

I've been toying with the idea of getting the Japanese PDS since ebay sees them regularly go for about $30, but I only know minimal Japanese so I'd be looking for the US script to play along with. Not sure if I want to go that route, because JP Burning Rangers and Guardian Heroes go for about the same price and I've wanted those for a really long time.

So I've been thinking about sort of forging a Sega Saturn System Disc (Official Boot Disc) by cutting parts of an official game, a burnt CD-R with the iso of the SSSD and attaching them together. Do you any of you know exactly how and what the Saturn checks for on a legit game? I know it checks the inner circle for security but I've heard it also checks the outer ring as well.


>inb4 modchip
this keeps my Saturn clean and I don't have to fuck up the motor by swapping

>>1272919

Are you saying physically bore out and replace a section of a retail CD with a section burned SSSD CD? How would you keep it together?

>>1272919
>that star of david
oy veeeey

>>1273146
I'm planning on using plastic cement, but yeah that is the general idea. I'm gonna go pick up a cheap legit game and get prepared for this but I just am trying to figure out which sections from the legit disc would be needed.

>>1272919
>I don't have to fuck up the motor
>Spinning some kind of Frankendisc

>>1273183
It couldn't possibly fuck up the motor, the only risk would be the disc falling apart and landing on the lens. I would also be near the Saturn so if anything goes wrong I could immediately shut the system off. Of course assuming I put it together terribly.

>>1273194
Before you start down this ill-advised path, just to demonstrate what will happen when something that isn't perfectly balanced spins at high rpms, take a disk and just put something as light as a piece of tape on it then put it in your drive and just listen to what it sounds like while spinning.

If you get this hand-made disk even remotely other than perfectly round, flat, and balanced then it not reading will be the least of your problems.

I just picked up a Sega Saturn today.

What are the best games to get other than the obvious?

I've just ordered an Action Replay Plus with the 4 Meg expansion, so import titles are viable.

>>1273176
I don't think it would work because Saturn discs have multiple rings to check, plus data beyond the lead out. That data may be either 00s only or nonsense, but it could be integral for something like keeping the laser going steady and looking for non-standard data at sector x.

If you've tried booting Saturn CDRs with the top off, you can see that the laser checks the area around 50min mark nonstop.

On retail games it goes past another (slightly visible) ring, pictured, and THEN it checks the outermost ring - but only goes as far as the black rim where it starts. THEN it boots the game.

So there is some hidden data which is completely unreadable by normal drives, and then the outer ring which CAN be replicated but doing so does fuck all because the authentication dies before it can reach the outer ring.

And all this is just speculation based on watching the laser. Truth is, until someone decaps and reads the ROM of the SH1, no one will know exactly how the Saturn protection works.

>>1273212
You act as if the disc will be spinning near its limit. It will spin for roughly 20 seconds max and around a 5 of that will be at low speed while it checks the inner ring.

>>1273194
>>1273176
Not only is this the most half baked idea I've read involving breaking copy protections, it's also not even how CDs work in general let alone pressed CDs

>>1270354
I only played Alpha 3, but the previous ones are definitely worth playing? I hear good stuff about Alpha 2, but nothing about the first one.

I only ever played Saturn when I was being baby-sat.

The games we played the most were Virtua Cop (not sure which one) and some Olympics game. They also had some Iron Man & War Machine game, some space-corridor fps and mother fuckin Panzer Dragon, but my babysitters kids didn't like it.

At least their dad introduced me to HoMM 3

>>1273229
>>1273238
I think a better method would be buying a rom-less SH1 and replacing the one on the Saturn with it. Of course, you need tools to desolder a 112 pin QFP chip for that. And it might not work at all - HOWEVER early devkits are known to have come with alternate SH1 chips and some are known to boot backups, which might be because of that.

Anyone knows where I can source such chips? Might as well give it a try...

>>1272919
>keeps my Saturn clean
>By raping it with some freak show frankenstein disc that will disintegrate and destroy the console
>It couldn't possibly fuck up the motor
>I know this because I have to ask how to make the disc
>I don't own several modded Saturns because they cost $10

Get yourself a modded Japanese Saturn and an AR or whatever alternative you can find. Keep your clean Saturn in a very large hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar.

>>1273370
Is it important that the jar had mayonnaise in it or is, like, Miracle Whip okay?

>>1273370
I'm only asking which sectors are necessary to pass the check. The less cutting I need to do, the less work and variables to fuck it up. The motor can only degrade by forcing it to stop hence why the swap trick is bad.

Mostly doing this for the novelty and convenience of being able to play backups on several Saturns regardless of them being unmodded.

>>1273393
It won't work.

>>1273393
>I'm only asking which sectors are necessary to pass the check.

This is unknown until someone decaps, phototgraphs, and reads the internal ROM of the SH1 chip. But most likely a large part of the outer ring (including some parts that can have data on them on bigger games).

And no, a disc like that would not damage the Saturn, as long as you build it so it doesn't fall apart when spinning fast. It is questionable whether it will work or not though.

Personally I'd buy a spare, non-programmed HD6477034F20 and replace the HD6437097F20 on the Saturn with that. As long as the internal SH1 code only has the security code and nothing else (eg. no boot routines and such), it should work.

>>1273393
>The motor can only degrade by forcing it to stop hence why the swap trick is bad.

You're making an Airfix mixtape donut Anon.

Airfix. Mixtape. Donut.

>>1274194

>>1273393
If you had anything close to the knowledge, experience and tools needed to try this you wouldn't be posting such nonsense. If you seriously believe this hasn't been explored and disregarded years ago or that an unbalanced disc seriously can't damage your drive then go for it.

Go ahead. Cut off the security ring and glue it to a burnt disc. What do you need the sector numbers for? Use the STM attached to your laser cutter/splicer to get more precise measurements and do it right.

>>1267563
I miss 'em too, random Omegle guy.

>>1273215
Death Crimson