/vr/ - Retro Games

Just to let you know, this thread is going to most likely turn into a massive shitstorm.

In any case, I can only tell you why I personally use it. My issue with most standalone emulators is that they do not get basic things like audio/video sync right, and some even end up with considerable input lag. RetroArch's Dynamic Rate Control takes care of the first issue, and its GPU Hard Sync setting just about eliminates the second, should you have a beefy enough CPU to handle it. As I have it, I never get any annoying sound pops or crackles, sound is always synced up to the video, and input lag is nigh nonexistent. For most of the systems its cover, it is about as close to the real console experience as I have been able to get.

Also, unrivaled shader support, though that's another touchy issue.

>>1227271

It is the original emulators, ported to a new API and with a frontend. Most emulators might have great emulation, but half assed audio/video frontends. RetroArch is one of the best frontends in that regard.

It has a kind of audio/video synching called Dynamic Rate Control. To maintain synch audio is slowed down or sped up slightly, by amounts that are not noticeable by the human ear. No other emulator has this. It really should be standard.

It's got great shader support, which means you can kind of do anything with it. From subtle shaders like pixilate to hide rounding errors to full gameboy style or CRT mimicing shaders.

Tons of video and audio options. Love it.

However, its limited by what's been ported to it.

Read more:
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/RetroArch

List of cores:
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Libretro#Cores

Guide:
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Using_RetroArch

>>1227271

I use it for most 8-32 bit system emulation.

Mednafen PSX core is the best PS1 emulator out there right now.

The GUI is ugly as hell though. Functional but man is it ugly.

Good enough frontend (not emulator) made by an autistic guy.

>>1227910
>made by an autistic guy.

That's true of like every emulation/romhacking/indiegame project ever.

>>1227914

Not everyone in the emulation community has god and savior complexes like SP does.

Because god-tier vsync

>>1227934

Dynamic Rate Control should be standard in emulators now. Why aren't they doing it?

>>1227939
Because NIH or they don't understand the math behind it

https://github.com/libretro/libretro.github.com/raw/master/documents/ratecontrol.pdf

>>1227882
Why are you replying to your own thread, OP

For everyone else:

RetroArch is a steaming pile of cow turd. It's completely unnecessary if you use your PC to emulate

>>1228217

It's squarepusher or some other retroarch developer shilling for their own project. Whst do you expect?

>>1228217
Hi byuu, still butthurt over getting spanked on Reddit?

http://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1rbyf7/emulating_xrgb_snes_upscaling_in_higan/

>>1228217
Its necessary if you want good vsync for certain systems.

>>1227271
its great if you want accuracy, but its easier to just use individual emulators because they have more options.

>>1228393
>but its easier to just use individual emulators because they have more options.

I see people say this but most of the time individual emulators lack options that RetroArch has, and the options that the individual emulator has that isn't implemented in the libretro version is either minor or irrelevant.

>using emulators
>ever

Fuck off teenagers.

>>1228401
It's missing mandatory things like autoloading individual game configs. It might as well not have arcade support.

SP back at it again? Retroarch is hot fucking garbage. Ugly UI and useless design with thousands of GUI issues and incompatibility. You'll still get some dipshits to buy into this stuff with incessant posting though, so maybe you're smart.

>>1227301
>this thread is going to most likely turn into a massive shitstorm.

RetroArch threads are shit because:

1. SP is a loose canon
2. SP has pissed people off who now shit up any threads relating to his project.
3. Trolls see how easy these groups are to rile up so they go in and bait

retroshills pls go

....Should I use RetroArch for my dedicated emulation PC or not? Other frontends have artwork and Retro doesn't....

>"why should I use ____" threads

Nope.

>>1228413
>autoloading individual game configs

How is this mandatory at all? Most of the time default settings are perfectly fine.

>>1228434
So what do you consider good design, "expert"

>>1228521

It's not a standard front-end. Like you take pre-existing programs and put a frontend on them.

You might have to wait until someone makes a pretty GUi for it.

>retro gaming hipsters on /vr/
>knowing shit about the technical details of emulation

LOL
Should be asking this on >>>/vg/emulation not /vr/

>>1228521
Doesn't have to be an do or don't type of deal, just set up your fancy swag #yolo frontend and make it run games using RA.

>>1228571
I'm so confused. Is this a frontend or not?

>>1228584

Standard frontend:
>frontend.exe
>set up emulator.exe to work with frontend.exe

RetroArch:
>Emulator.exe is ported to .dll file using the libretro API
>runs via retroarch.exe

So it's a kind of frontend. Just not the one you're thinking of. Something has to be ported to its format first. It has its advantages and some disadvantages. It's currently the best multi-system emulator out there. It's doing the concept justice.

Mednafen vs RetroArch
I don't use GUIs.

>>1228584
It's not a graphical frontend like Hyperspin, it's functionally an emulator that has a swappable backend so it can run any emulator or game engine that implements the libretro API compiled as a dynamic linked library.

>>1227271
>>1227882
>>1228393

I'd just like to interject for a moment.

What you’re referring to as an emulator, is in fact, Libretro/Retroarch, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Libretro plus Retroarch. Retroarch is not an emulator unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Libretro system made useful by the Libretro core API, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full suite of tools as defined by Themaister. >>1228590

>itt: sp shitting things up

The fun never ends

>>1228590
>>1228596

Thanks for the explanations guys. Hyperspin seems like a pain to set up, with all artwork done manually and such. I think I will stick with ROMCollector and XBMC for the time being.

>>1228584
Yes and no. It's a """reference implementation frontend""" for the libretro API. Emulators ported to the libretro spec will do their thing in emulating the games, while RetroArch handles everything A/V and input related among other things. This means you can still benefit from RA's technical superiority while using a flashy frontend on top if that's your cup of tea.

>>1228605

You'd damn well know it when SP shows up. his posts are hard to miss.

>>1228610

Like here? >>1228570

>>1228614

That was a very SP style post.

>>1228607
Thank you gentooman, chuckled good. I always wanted someone to adapt this.

>>1228606
Is there any advantage to RCB over Advanced Launcher? Thought I'd look into getting one of the two up and running.

>>1228595
RetroArch is a lot more open than Mednafen, since anyone can take the libretro API, implement an emulator or a game engine, and then run it in RetroArch. You can't do that with Mednafen, it's got its frontend and back ends baked in as a big blob, you'd have to fork it to add anything to it or modify it.

>>1228504
I don't know why /vr/ can't discuss emulators without shitheads being overemotional about programs that run video games

>>1228557
>>1228560

Stay retarded, retroarch dev.

>>1228607
10/10

>>1228379
Squarepusher pls go

>>1228646
People get emotional over nostalgia and emulators not being perfect is bound to rustle someone's jimmies.

>>1228650
Fuck off

So, Question: It's been pulled from Google Play but I really want it for android. Is there a download link for the apk anywhere?? Yes, I've done google search, but I dont know what the last available ver .for android was.

Anyways, sorry for the noob-ass question.

>>1228678
http://www.libretro.com/?page_id=200

There's also a guy on their forum who does unofficial nightly builds for Windows 64-bit and Android ARM
http://www.libretro.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=993

>>1228693
>http://www.libretro.com/?page_id=200
Beautiful! Thanks!

>>1228660
Get fucked, retro arch dev.

>>1228379
Why did you link that shitbomb of a thread?

>>1227886
i >>1227886
have yet to get any ps1 game to run in retroarch.
yeah, that gui is ass.
i cant get any pc engine cd game to run either.
took fuck-ass ever to finally get sega cd games to run.
any tips on how to run pce or ps1 cd games?

>>1229669
>any tips on how to run pce or ps1 cd games?

1. Bios. Try these ones and place them in the system director:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y8w1wd7j25rhqfc/RetroArch+BIOS.rar
2. Try a newer dev build:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/91sakv0qdyxjx9f/cGOfV7ZOKd
3. Check to ensure the cuesheet is set up right. Read here:
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Cue_sheet_%28.cue%29

It should have come with a proper cuesheet setup, but sometimes they're not set up right.

>>1229708
thanks so much.
this is why i love /vr so much.
i been lookin all day for an answer, then i get one super quick right here.
i appriciate it.
my bios were the problem

I'm using mednafen for nearly everything that retroarch handles. Does mednafen have input lag/audio-video desync?

Because it groups up all the good emulators into 1 .exe. 1 .exe is better than 5 .exe's.

Also I really really love how you can customize the resolution to your liking. In other emulators all you get are scale and stretch setting. In Retroarch I can do so much more.

Just found this thread and downloaded RetroArch. I like it, but I'm having a couple problems.

First: when I have a game loaded, is there a way to get back to the RetroArch main menu without having to exit and re-launch?

Second: Having a universal button layout is very annoying. How can I get RetroArch to not use SNES B/A as NES B/A?

>>1230261
To the first, F1. To the second, it doesn't have any per-system bindings sadly. You can use separate configurations if necessary.

Is there any way to add custom resolutions for the Wii version? Everything looks great except for GBA games because no proper resolution is listed, making everything scaled.

>>1230620

Don't think so. The wii itself handles resolution. So it's either 240p, or 480i.

>>1229313

Why not? SP's autism is hilarious. He goes into full rage mode in front of people who don't give a single fuck about their troubled relationship whenever his arch nemesis makes a post about anything.

>>1230283
>it doesn't have any per-system bindings sadly.

It really should.

>>1228379

>Squrarepusher on reddit

>Anyway, no, I am definitely right - without a high-school diploma, and without at least a Bachelor's or a Master's degree, your resume is a fucking joke. It will get thrown in the trash right away. Anybody but you knows this apparently.

>>1231298
first time i saw someone i knew on 4chan

>>1231256

I'm not sure who's supposed to represent whom here.

>>1231298
Connections matter a lot more than resumes but... yeeeah. I don't think byuu's got that covered. I don't think SP does either.

Him ripping on byuu for the identity matrix business for the umpteenth time is getting old.

>>1231358
>Him ripping on byuu for the identity matrix business for the umpteenth time is getting old.

I don't even know what the hell they're arguing over. It's some turbo nerd shit that doesn't even matter. SP is just blowing up to him over other issues. SP holds grudges over everything and won't let them go. He's a nut.

>>1228660
>>1228379

Squarepusher, I never liked your software more than when I had no idea you existed. I feel embarrassed for you when you make such an ass of yourself in front of the majority of your userbase. Just let it go, man. If you don't like what people have to say, just don't respond to it; they will be the asshole, and you won't.

Although, I will honestly say you're being nicer to your userbase than you have in the past; your condescension is getting much more subtle. A couple of months ago, you would have told this guy his aesthetic concerns were childish and that he should learn to code before letting your software's name pass his filthy, casual teeth.
>>1228521

>>1231408

He can't ignore it. It's just how he is. He's a little mental.

We just have to in turn ignore him when he blows up on forums.

>>1231408

SP is a nut, and kind of an unintended troll. Just ignore his meltdowns. Or get a good laugh from them.

>>1228557
>default settings are perfectly fine
If this is the kind of mentality retroarchers have then no wonder people say it's shit.

>>1230283
>doesn't have any per-system bindings
I see a trend developing

Thanks for the honesty guys. Between the shills and the people saying it's shit I didn't know what to think. It's now clear I should stick with the individual emulator interfaces that give me the granular level of control I want.

>>1231364
It's just a bunch of autists who disagreed with each other on how things ought to be done. Politics.

Byuu tends to go for The Right Way To Do It. He won't let shit he doesn't like (doesn't understand) taint his project. He gets rid of code that isn't "good", even stuff contributed by others. That's a major alienating faux pas in FOSS. SP is much more pragmatic in that regard.

I can understand Byuu's approach as I did share it in the past. Honestly, it's mostly a metaphysical journey instead of any actual programming. However, I've always valued the contributions of others, more than my own, even. You just don't throw away people's free code contributions. You integrate it thoroughly with your system.

>>1231408

It's amusing how he chastises byuu for not playing well with others

>>1231573
Next time, maybe you should try and judge for yourself how you feel about a piece of software instead of being completely reliant on the opinions of others. I guess that's a bit too much to ask of an average 4chan babby, though.

>>1230283
What? It does. Just choose a core, set up your settings for that core, and save the config on RGUI.

>>1231408

Uh, I'm not Squarepusher

>>1231573

If the default settings aren't fine, the emulator is shit. The user shouldn't have to fiddle with settings just to make it work.

Really, what do individual emulators have that RetroArch doesn't? The only thing that comes to mind is cheat support, as RetroArch's cheat code interface only supports bSNES core since it is a holdover from the SSNES days. You'll be dealing with a lot of inconsistency with standalone emulators for every system because no two emulators do everything the same way and have the same level of features.

The real question is why you'd use Retro Arch when Mednafen + MedGui is 100% better than Retro Arch. Noticeably when comparing PC-Engine games. Retro Arch is a totally failed experiment to make a front end loader for many reasons. The most damning is the fact you can't have multiple button setups between systems. Or maybe it's the fact many systems don't play worth a shit on it? Really, I can't help but think the hype of this front end is due to people from Retro Arch trying to advertise this shitty thing and many people buying into it because they don't know MedGui exists.

>>1232047
>retroarch
>front end

Try again. That's almost as bad as saying that RetroArch is an emulator.

>>1232047
The biggest downsides to Mednafen over Retroarch are:
- No DRC
- RA's cores can be added/removed easily and are typically more up-to-date. Mednafen has that ancient version of bsnes for a start.
- RA is much more configurable from within the emulator.

On the other hand Mednafen does have a few perks, like you said it has per-game options and controls. I also like its system of pressing Alt+Shift+1 to set all key binds.

Also what games play badly under RA? Is it related to controls or something else? I think the only problem I've seen is DeSmuME and games that are played sideways, the touch area is still the lower half of the video output. The sad thing is even with that it runs better than the official GUI for me.

>>1232147

PC-Engine games are either not compatible for some reason or run very very unlike a real PC Engine. Which is interesting since RA uses Mednafen's cores for PSX and PCE. That's my personal observation, but I've heard many other people complain about several of the cores implementations being shoddy or underwhelming but I haven't fucked with them myself.

The cores being added/removed is fine and dandy with me, that's the only reason I gave it a look.

RA is much more configurable within the emulator, but Mednafen is actually more configurable from outside. Even the MedGui gives you many options RA doesn't have.

So really, I don't see a reason to use this over separate emulators even slightly.

>>1232203
The main reasons are for the controller UI and that it's ported to so many platforms unlike most of the original emulators. The Android version in particular is pretty nice. As mentioned I also find it runs DeSmuME better, and it's preferrable to Higan.

Also has the PCE thing been reported as a bug? It's not much use if they don't know about it.

Honestly, a lot of the bitching probably would go away if they would just bite the bullet and write a native Win32 Snes9x-esque interface, with mouse-and-keyboard navigable menus and such. Something Windows babbies are used to and all.

SP actually WAS gonna do that, by the way, but it was his partner, Maister, that vetoed the idea, because he hates Win32-specific code or some shit. OSX/iOS and Android both have native interfaces, though, but only because others actually took it upon them to write them for the project. No one on Windows land cares enough to do the same, it seems.

So yeah, unless someone steps up to the plate, Windows is pretty much stuck on RGUI, which actually isn't bad, though my big annoyance is not being able to quickly load a game by bringing up a menu and typing the name. I have to manually scroll with the controller. Also, multiple configurations per system ARE possible, but you have to save them outside the emulator.

>>1232047
>The real question is why you'd use Retro Arch when Mednafen + MedGui is 100% better than Retro Arch.

Mednafen uses a lot of very old versions of emulators for some of its cores. Apparently it's not as modular and everything's kind of baked in together so it's harder to change. Mednafen also lacks a lot of the features of RA, like Dynamic Rate Control, which is the best means of sync created. No other emulator has that. M is nowhere near as portable. M's best features have always been its original cores, such as the high accuracy PS1 and PCE cores. Which mostly have libretro ports.

>The most damning is the fact you can't have multiple button setups between systems.

Well, there's multiple configs. But if you mean either all in one config, or multiple configs for each system which it then auto-switches between then that's entirely about how the RetroArch frontend is executed. There's nothing stopping you or anyone else from making a pull request to add that feature in.

>Or maybe it's the fact many systems don't play worth a shit on it?

Not really following this sentence.

>>1231629
Why should I waste my time testing every piece of software someone tries to flog here? The issues people have pointed out here have saved me a time and I appreciate it.

>>1231906
Really? The default settings for any emulator should be fine for game on any system configuration. You're just talking bullshit. A number of inadequacies have been pointed out here. Thank you for presenting the opposing view of a shill/fanboy though.

>>1232418
>Why should I waste my time testing every piece of software someone tries to flog here?

Well that's fine, but it also means your opinion is kind of shit and basically worthless.

>>1232203
>PC-Engine games are either not compatible for some reason or run very very unlike a real PC Engine. Which is interesting since RA uses Mednafen's cores for PSX and PCE. That's my personal observation, but I've heard many other people complain about several of the cores implementations being shoddy or underwhelming but I haven't fucked with them myself.

Specifics? Really interested.

>>1232389

I agree with Maister though. I don't like the idea of a frankenstein RA with two GUIs.

They should just focus on making RGUI less ugly. It's rather hideous now. Ugly, ugly green and blurry font.

>>1232435
He's talking out of his ass. The libretro versions run the exact same emulation code.

>>1232418
>A number of inadequacies have been pointed out here.

Mostly just autist nitpicking that's easily remedied. For the most part it plays games fine out of the box that don't need specific BIOS.

>>1232558

Well, if he's saying PCE games don't run as well or have compatibility issues, then it's likely because Mednafen has an accuracy profile, which RA lacks. That could be it.

There is also the possibility of bugs being introduced in the porting process.

I use RA, but I use a frontend for it, Pheonix to be exact. Don't know why they pulled it from the recent releases of RA. I downloaded the last version released, then pasted the most recent release of RA overtop it.

>>1232914

Phoenix is deprecated. I agree with their descision. They shouldn't support two GUIs, and Phoenix is so old it causes issues.
http://phexe.com/2013/11/ra-player-v0-0-0-1-released/

Try that. It's another frontend that someone made. Should be more up to date.

>>1232646

Yep, did some research and RA only uses Mednafen's fast core instead of the accuracy profile.

>>1233027

Sadly, the Mednafen accuracy profile can't be ported to RA yet. There's some issues and it would take some re-writing.

>>1232957

I can't load that site for some reason, is there a mirror?

>>1233202

https://www.mediafire.com/?bft7u3benp4mp2h

>>1233231

Thanks.

Someone fixed the MAME 2013 native resolution problem

https://github.com/libretro/mame2013-libretro/commit/2af5e5e94fbce966dcaa4c3ca6ea3b95e911b634

>>1231408
Whiny shits like you are even funnier than Squarepusher's verbal attacks on people. Pussies like you get punished by sociopaths like him, all the while normal people ger a chuckle: I don't see a problem he at all.

As for RA, it's the best for Android and easiest to use for Windows, despite what some say. It's a full package that plays most popular systems out of the box with no configuration necessary. How can some people fail to make it running is beyond me. Perhaps they simply can't ivercome their habits dating back to 2002 or so. I have no idea. It just works out if the box.

>>1233312

>best for android

Wow, that is the dumbest shit I have ever read. Retro Arch is damn near unusable on android and I have a Galaxy S4.

>works out of the box

It works less than well out of the box. Sometimes you need bios files, or different cores, or you need to change many of the terrible default settings. It has one of the ugliest GUIs I've ever seen. It doesn't work worth a jack shit for at least four systems it lists as compatible. It uses an overlapping input system for all consoles (retarded, fix that shit), all of its shaders are fucking garbage.

Why would I want to use a glorified front end that causes issues with everything it touches.

>punished by sociopaths

That's why virtually anyone has read your retarded rants on byuu or people on 4chan has come to know you as one of the biggest retards on the internet and virtually nobody likes you. You don't punish anyone, you succumb to bait with virtually no effort and fly off the handle like you need meds. Stop.

>>1233312
>Pussies like you get punished by sociopaths like him

look out we got a badass over here

Lemme get this straight. Mednafen would be objectively much better than Retro Arch in every way if it had up to date cores, correct?

>>1233326
>Wow, that is the dumbest shit I have ever read. Retro Arch is damn near unusable on android and I have a Galaxy S4.

Runs fine on my Galaxy S4. Even most of the single pass shaders work.

>>1233337

Would also lack:
>shader support
>dynamic rate control
>extreme portability

>>1232423
My "opinion" that learning from others is shit and worthless? Taught yourself everything you know, eh?

>>1232564
So what you're saying is that Retroarch is great for hipsters who want to take a few selfies with well known retro games and post them in instagram to impress their hipster friends. Anyone who might want to do something like let their kid play a really good but not mainstream game to help them get into retro games is an autist.

Now I understand why there's a shitstorm every time someone mentions retroarch. You guys are freaks. Raging in defense of your inferior product like Apple zombies. I can just imagine the kind of support I'd get with this thing.
>me: Can you please tell me how to do X
>rafanboy1995: You don't need to do X you retarded autist. It works the way it does because that's the best way. If you don't like it you're retarded.

Thanks assholes. You've given me yet another reason not to touch this steaming turd.

>>1232957
>Phoenix causes issues

Well shit, glad I'm hearing about that now instead of down the line when I run into the issues. Thanks for the GUI suggestion, but the link you gave me keeps timing out.

>>1233367

Mednafen has shader support.

>>1233379
>https://www.mediafire.com/?bft7u3benp4mp2h

Nevermind.

>>1233380

Which shader formats does it use?

This thread sucks, so here's some filters.

from what i understand, retroarch is the future of retro gaming for xbmc, which is a pretty big deal. But atm, mednafen seems superior in almost every way.

It looks like it has a bright future, but there needs to be some sort of autoconfigurations/wizards that will help the raging newbs here because in order to use this thing properly, you gotta use the commandline.

>>1233418
>because in order to use this thing properly, you gotta use the commandline.

Only for a few features, like netplay. Which they can add to the RGUI.

>>1233326
>It works less than well out of the box. Sometimes you need bios files, or different cores, or you need to change many of the terrible default settings. It has one of the ugliest GUIs I've ever seen. It doesn't work worth a jack shit for at least four systems it lists as compatible. It uses an overlapping input system for all consoles (retarded, fix that shit), all of its shaders are fucking garbage.
So many words to say absolutely nothing of value, just leave this thread already. And don't forget to take your fedora with you on the way out.

>>1233326
I have a Galaxy S3 and it runs perfectly fine with the latest test build.

>all of its shaders are fucking garbage.
Is that a fact?

>>1233376
>My "opinion" that learning from others is shit and worthless? Taught yourself everything you know, eh?
You don't need to come to this thread to post about your uninformed, worthless conclusions about software based on second-hand knowledge only. If you are that lazy I don't understand why you keep coming back to this thread, you aren't contributing anything of value.

>>1233402
That looks awesome

>>1233393

Baked in GLSL shaders. It's nowhere near comparable to RetroArch's shader stacking system

>>1233457

Stop replying to obvious trolls

>>1233460
>Baked in

That seems to be how Mednafen does everything.

Modularity is a good thing. RA follows the Arch Linux way;

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way

Which is also why the GUI is shit.

>>1233464

The GUI is fine, since it's easy to navigate with a controller, just a bit ugly and in need of some theming support and custom fonts.

>>1233418
>from what i understand, retroarch is the future of retro gaming for xbmc, which is a pretty big deal
Actually not RetroArch but libretro. RetroPlayer is the name of the implementation that has been developed for and accepted into mainline XBMC. It's gonna be huge!

>>1233472
>Actually not RetroArch but libretro.

Very few other devs are jumping on board the Libretro Train.

>>1233476
>Very few other devs are jumping on board the Libretro Train.
Yes, sadly the emulation community is filled with NIH mindset kunts who won't collaborate. XBMC implementing the libretro spec is however a real high-profile giant jump onto that train and could open the eyes of many third parties, when they realize libretro will get them into the arms of millions of HTPC enthusiasts.

garbear, the main developer of RetroPlayer, has voiced his concerns about certain aspects of the spec, though, and it seems like he plans to purpose some extensions upstream. We'll see how SP responds when that happens. I also don't think that RetroPlayer has implemented support for the libretro GL spec that came about late in their development cycle.

>>1233509
purpose -> propose

>>1233509
>people don't want to use my shit
>NIH mindset kunts

Please kindly fuck off. Devs don't have to use your shitty API if they don't want to. You retro arch faggots are the most entitled little shits I've ever seen. Towards both users and developers.

The only reason RA supports as many cores as it currently does is SP does all the work of porting other people's code to RA. If I were the original authors, I'd keep it that way. Why the FUCK would I work on maintaining a port for some autistic faggot's front end just so my own emulator can be obsoleted and my name and work fall into obscurity under the retro arch umbrella?

Let that faggot slave on his shit if he wants.

Stopped using it after I updated Phoenix and it broke my controller config.

Regular GUI is shit. What a joke.

>>1234176
You based your whole "comeback" around a little part of my cheeky first sentence, way to go completely missing the point of the post. I'm not sure yours had one to begin with.

At least you got me to reply, huh? That must be a nice surprise on this otherwise grim Saturday. If it's still not enough to satisfy your desires, I suggest you print out this post and shove it up your ass for some quality anal pleasure time.

>>1234562
>I suggest you print out this post and shove it up your ass for some quality anal pleasure time.

Isn't this thread about emulators?

>>1234612

As you see emulators/frontends are SRS FUCKING BUSINESS!

>>1234612
God knows. This thread is the most hilarious and depressing thing I've ever seen on /vr/

>>1234612

No, it's a Retroarch thread. These threads attract the worst of both sides.

>>1233326
You must be stupid if you managed to fuck up running it on a Galaxy S fucking 4. I have the same exact hardware and it runs fine. Maybe you have a botched firmware you installed yourself without undersranding what you were doing? Just guessing, but, chances are, I guessed right. You run CGM and not stock, nor even a stable release, despite not knowing shit, don't you?

>your retarded rants on byuu
What? Are you hallucinating?

>>1233312
>>1233326

>SP is a sociopath

Nah. He holds grudges over trivial things and blows up at people. But I see nothing to indicate he's not altruistic or empathetic.

>>1234709
Unprovoked or disproportioned attacks on people are signs of sociopathy, too. Regardless, entitled cunts he keeps lashing at fully deserve the lashing out, according to what the cunts themselves sa: I only ever hear about him (or Retroarch, or libretro, to be honest) on /vr/ and from people mighty offended at his way of telling "his audience" to eat shit, and, by their own words, he's a folk hero the monkey king proportions, disproportionally, but hilariously punishing people who are, above all, entitled, reactionary and annoying.

>>1234718
>punishing people

are you squarepusher by any chance

>>1234720
Are you people paranoid or something?

>>1234718
>some guy who spazzes out all the time is your "hero"

>>1234734
He also seems to be a clever and hard-working coder, according to same very people who a-bloo-bloo on /vr/ about having been yelled at by him.

>>1234746

I just laugh at his spazz outs. He's making enemies left and right over this kind of stuff. He's only hurting himself.

>>1234746
What bothers me is that he doesn't seem to have any presence on the Github repo unless he's under a different name.

>>1234697
What is wrong with CyanogenMod?

>>1234762
>What is wrong with CyanogenMod?
Nothing. Where did I imply there was something wrong with it?

>>1234763
What do online message board "enemies" even matter?

>>1234762
>What bothers me is that he doesn't seem to have any presence on the Github repo unless he's under a different name.

He's paranoid, so it wouldn't shock me if he's big on privacy. It wouldn't suprise me if the name he's given interviewers is a false one.

>>1234772
>What do online message board "enemies" even matter?

It's unprofessional as hell. It makes people actively hate him and think he's an idiot. And his personality has began to overshadow his project. Most people here and elsewhere know of RA as "that project ran by that crazy guy".

>>1234773
His name shows up like once in a few pages in the RA repository. He's not twinaphex?

>>1234772
Whatever CGM is it didn't seem like you were speaking well of it. I think the worst problem I get, and I don't know if that's CM or not, GBA through RA starts stuttering horribly if it decides to look for wifi.

>>1234785
"Unprofessional"? He's coding emulators for free in his spare time. What does professionalism have to do with it? Holy shit, are you 13? It's like saying a 4chan tripfag is unprofessional in stating his opinions, or a MMO clan leader making enemies is unprofessional. It's a hobby for him, it has nothing to do with professionalism.

>>1234785
>Most people here and elsewhere know of RA as "that project ran by that crazy guy".
Uh, I personally know RA as a libretro frontend. Don't know about shut-ins who dive into every community they see and then off themselves if their pseudoreputation goes down.

>>1234790

SP himself has big plans for the libretro API. He wants to go professional with it. He clearly has larger plans with mobile as well.

>>1234793
Right now they're coding it in their spare time for free, and are dealing with the permanently, chronically, to-the-core non-paying crowd of the emulator users. There is no need to be profesional, or at all polite, there.

The way SP acts is the norm in emu land.

http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2013/11/25/slug-army/

Watched the comments section here lately?

The emu scene is full of drama. Alwas has been, always will be. And of course 99% of the devs are autists. But then so are nearly 99% of the people posting in here.

>>1233376
>Raging in defense of your inferior product like Apple zombies.

Actually, it's only dumb uninformed Android users who would ever say that iOS or iPads/iPhones are "inferior products". They are still lightyears ahead of your Android toys.

Case in point - 20ms audio latency (and that is REAL latency). Real native binaries. No bullshit VM.

Oh yeah, and no single tablet/phone right now can compete with an iPad Air/iPhone 5s in terms of CPU and GPU power.

Say what you want about Apple, but their "premium" status is pretty much deserved. There is nothing out there that can touch it in the mobile sphere.

>>1234836
>They are still lightyears ahead of your Android toys.
iPhone is hardware, Android is software. You're the one who's truly retarded.

>>1234837
> iPhone is hardware, Android is software.
No shit sherlock.

And still, Apple's premium hardware is much, much better than any Android device out there - AND - the OS is lightyears ahead in terms of performance, stability and engineering.

I know this because I'm a dev. What is your story?

>>1234836
>only dumb uninformed Android users who would ever say that iOS or iPads/iPhones are "inferior products".

I consider a device that I can't take the battery out of inferior.

>>1233376
>Anyone who might want to do something like let their kid play a really good but not mainstream game to help them get into retro games is an autist.

RetroArch is not a babysitter for your kids. It's meant for people who grew up playing these games and want to play them again.

Your kids don't matter since they weren't there when it all happened - so they hold no nostalgia towards it.

>>1234845

You mean like Nexus phones? Or like nearly any Android phone except for Samsung?

Do you also like laggy vendor UIs built on top of Android that run 10x worse than iOS out of the box?

>>1234839
>I know this because I'm a dev. What is your story?
I'm a reincarnation of Steve Jobs, and even I know iOS is a pile of shit. I mean, Android is awful, but compared to recent iOS versions, it's the best mobile OS ever.

Also, being a "dev" costs $100 a year. And having a Mac. I know, because I'm programmer at a studio specializing in porting between Android/iOS/Windows/Linux. OSX/iOS can truly be are bottom-tier at times, while Apple hardware, though technically good, is only worth about 2/3 the price Apple is asking at best.

>>1234853

So how do you explain that audio latency on Android is still so massively shit, yet it's god tier on iOS?

How do you explain that a game like Sonic 4 can't run at a solid 60fps and has to drop frames on an Nvidia Shield of all things? Take any iPad these days and that thing runs at a solid 60fps no problem.

Android is totally inferior to iOS. That is confirmed fact. Saying otherwise makes you look ridiculous since you can easily confirm the opposite when playing any game that is out on both iOS and Android. The Android version is always worse.

>>1234856
>on an Nvidia Shield of all things
Nvidia Shield is a mess and should not have been a thing at all, that's how.

Audio latency: be a better programmer, is all. Seriously.

>Android is totally inferior to iOS. That is confirmed fact.
iOS is totally inferior to everything. That is a confirmed fact.

>ITT: SP still fagging out as usual I see.

>>1234858

> Audio latency: be a better programmer, is all. Seriously.

LOL.

Which is why the Caustik developer (StinkyRej) said this -

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1j6erw/android_43_latency_measurements/

Dude - not even a Nexus 7 2013 can get 40ms audio latency. That is confirmed fact. On iOS with CoreAudio you get 20ms audio latency.

It seems you are not the sharpest knife in the toolbox at your dev house.

>>1234862
Instead of reading reddit, read up on good code. Thank you, junior.

>>1234864

So show me this "wonderful" code example that magically beats Google at their own examples/game and FINALLY gets audio latency up to parity with iOS.

BTW - be prepared for Google to want to immediately recruit you since doing this would be the equivalent of scaling Mount Everest.

>>1234865
No. My lessons actually cost money, and I don't teach on 4chan at all. You are free to stay a fanboy "dev" and learn from reddit articles for all eternity.

>>1234867

It seems your 'dev house' is of the consultant kind then. You know - the ones that are known for lying their asses off to clients.

It's impossible to even get 40ms audio latency out of a Nexus device (REAL latency that is). It's totally impossible with the OpenSL codepath - totally impossible with the OpenMax AL codepath - and certainly totally impossible through the straight Java shit.

And 40ms is still double of what iOS achieves out of the box with CoreAudio.

Please don't embarrass yourself even more. This is like saying the moon is made out of swiss cheese. It's a patent falsehood and ludicrous statement to say that you can beat iOS audio latency on an Android device.

>mfw 99% of ppl can't even discern difference between 40ms and 20ms

>>1234871
You are not an engineer at all. You are a fanboy. Programming is solving problems, not scaling mountains. Both Android and iOS can be full of silly obstacles, and iOS, along with MacOSX, can be even more problematic than other platforms at times.

The closed nature of Apple products is what creates most of the problems for real developers with experience developing/porting for several platforms (as opposed to single-platform amateur "devs" who compare not from actual tests and experience on hardware they have, but online-posted benchmarks by other people).

Now, you are a child. That was enough schooling for today. Stop this pseudoargument, it is both off-topic and silly.

>>1234878

Blablabla and yet not a single persuasive argument that would actually show you are a dev that knows what he is talking about.

Methinks you just do the trivial UI shit and stick in Android SDK/ObjectiveC land all day instead of actually doing serious low-level stuff.

iOS is a walled garden. That it's better in other areas is irrelevant.

>>1234880

>mfw 99% of ppl can't even discern difference between 40ms and 20ms

You forgot the part where Android can't even get 40ms on even the most optimized devices of all.

And this shit matters when you want to have games run at rock-solid performance instead of having to drop either video frames or audio samples.

ESPECIALLY when you have some 'garbage collector' that chips away random amounts of milliseconds every 30 to 15 seconds depending on what background services you have running.

>>1234880
100%, actually. But the trick is, that guy doesn't even know what that means for programming. He just saw a benchmark saying "lower is better", and decided it means Apple must clearly be two times better or faster, since 20 is twice lower than 40.

>>1234891
>>You forgot the part where Android can't even get 40ms on even the most optimized devices of all.

you forgot the part where nobody (not plagued with assburgers) actually gives a flying shit.

>>1234892

No, I have the same code running on both iOS and Android. And iOS is way better in every respect.

Android is so pathetic that you have to jump through hoops to even get Dalvik to schedule your audio thread as a FIFO thread.

Even John Carmack said that Android is pathetic for native code development. You really don't have a clue what you are talking about from a low-level point of view and you just repeat the obvious truisms like "iOS is a walled garden" - meanwhile ignoring that Android is just as much of a 'walled garden' since if it weren't - you could do native Linux input instead of having to go through shit Java services. If it weren't a walled garden - the OpenGL implementation wouldn't be written in godawful Java and would actually be a solid native library where I could be certain I am not incurring any garbage collector hits from shitty Java.

I can't think of a worse platform to develop for than a piece of dogshit Java framework wrapped around Linux. It's an insult to humanity and embedded computing.

I'm so glad Broglia isn't this fucking mentally ill. And he just makes $$$$ all day, son.

>>1234901
What hardware do you use?

Anyway, you don't need to invent a lie about that. This is off-topic.

>>1234904

- A Nexus 7 2013 running Android 4.4
- A Galaxy S4 running Google Play Edition ROM (Android 4.3) - no TouchWiz crap
- An Nvidia Shield running Android 4.3 AOSP

No, it's not my hardware alright.

>>1234906

And to contrast -

I get way better audio latency than either of these things out of an iPad 2.

Now let that sink in. A piece of shit from 2011 gets you god-tier audio latency compared to brand new hardware from late 2013 from the Android camp.

And this stuff matters hugely for emulators. Anybody saying it doesn't really should get out and go play dumb military shooter games like COD.

>>1234901
There is no comparison. Most Android phones allow you to sideload programs, and some of them let you get rid of Android entirely. That should be a right, not a privilege. Also I'm not the same person as you were talking to.

>>1234906
As I said, I can not diagnose your code and explain what's wrong with that over 4chan, and, in any case, getting your code looked at by professionals probably costs more money than you've got.

>>1234915
+1. I'll take flexibility over 20ms of audio any day.

>>1234919

> and, in any case, getting your code looked at by professionals probably costs more money than you've got.

Dude, if you say that you can get similar audio latency out of Android as iOS, I can already tell you are not a "professional".

Just because you have a shitty startup that is screwing clients over with bullshit promises and unrealistic expectations does not make you "professional" - it just makes you a good hustler.

Read this article -

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/05/why-mobile-low-latency-is-hard-explained-by-google-galaxy-nexus-still-android-of-choice/

Even Google candidly admits that audio latency is not Android's strong point - that is code for "we fucking suck against iOS". Put that in your "professional" pipe, smoke it, and realize just how much of a "hack" you are for such a "professional" to be telling me profoundly wrong things.

>>1234903

> And he just makes $$$$ all day, son.

For dumbasses who worship money, this matters.

For people who don't, meh.

R4 and other DS flash cart makers accrued a lot of money too. Until years later when they had to pony up millions back to Nintendo.

Trust me - this stuff will come back to him in a big way.

>>1234926
>> that is code for "we fucking suck against iOS

No, that is code for "nobody truly cares enough, we've got better things to do."

The irony is that the robot hipster fagget army that owns iPhaggotry aren't even aware of their imperceptible-to-all-but-canines audio latency advantage.

>>1234935
>
The irony is that the robot hipster fagget army that owns iPhaggotry aren't even aware of their imperceptible-to-all-but-canines audio latency advantage.

The irony of this is that you are posting this kind of ill-informed garbage on an emulator-focused thread - since audio latency matters hugely for emulators since they have to abide by two reference clocks - one for video, one for audio. And we have to block on both audio and video at the same time - a paradox that you won't find in regular games or other applications.

>>1234935

> The irony is that the robot hipster fagget army that owns iPhaggotry aren't even aware of their imperceptible-to-all-but-canines audio latency advantage.

Trust me - every pro audio musician knows this. And they buy iPhones/iPads for the same reason people bought Atari STs for music back in the days of yore.

Android is a bad sad joke to them. You get laughed out of the studio mentioning it.

>>1234926
>Dude, if you say that you can get similar audio latency out of Android as iOS, I can already tell you are not a "professional".
No, I can write code that works. I don't bemoan complexities of the platforms, I work around them. Android is undercooked and problematic. But if you think iOS is less so, you are hilariously misinformed.

>>1234937
>'tard can't even greentext properly.

Nothing is ill-informed about no-one giving a toss about audio latency - it's reality, son.

>>1234938
Oh you just reminded me: Requiring iTunes to do basics like copy music onto it is unacceptable.

>>1234941

This is not an argument about iOS having problems or not - this is an argument about Android being horribly bad at performance vs. iOS.

And the reality is that - yes - iOS is still a generational leap ahead. The fact that Google can finally proudly claim they can run again on 512MB RAM phones whereas iOS has been selling two popular devices with 512MB of RAM for years now with no problems is testament to that.

Android eats RAM like no tomorrow and its performance is crap (both in terms of audio/video latency) compared to iOS. These are undisputed facts. Deal with them. iOS is the PS1 to your Saturn, the 360 to your PS3. It simply gets the better ports, the better apps, 99% of the time.

>>1234938
>>And they buy iPhones/iPads for the same reason people bought Atari STs for music back in the days of yore.

Audio people bought STs for the integrated Midi.

>>1234953

And iPhones/iPads come with way better MIDI capabilities than Androids/Windows Phones PLUS they have at least 50/75% less audio latency. A very strong killer combination.

>>1234957
That does not make true your fallacious statement of why folks bought STs. Unless IOHSHIT products come with integrated Midi, that's not quite "the same reason." Just like IOHSHIT, Amiga had Midi peripherals and tons of musicians went this route, the same way they'd have to on IOHSHIT today.

>>1234968

It's not a fallacious statement when there is this for your iPad -

http://line6.com/midimobilizer/

And nothing for your Android tablet.

>>1234973
>http://line6.com/midimobilizer/

Here's another example -

60Beat for IOS - a gamepad that connects to your iPad/iPhone's 3.5mm jack.

Let's look at their FAQ shall we:

> * Will you be supporting Android or other platforms with this?
> Currently the Android platform does not support the required low latency audio processing to enable the use of the 60beat GamePad.

Ouch. So much stuff possible with iOS, yet nothing with Android.

>>1234981

But hey, I guess to this "genius professional dev" that posts on this 'so-respected' site -

the Android audio latency issue simply doesn't "exist", it's all down to "bad programming". You see, all these other audio engineers are simply talking out of their ass.

He and his "no-name development studio" that he doesn't want to tell the name of and his non-existent code samples do it all "properly". Sounds like an IT manager to me.

>>1234973
If that's an IOHSHIT with integrated Midi, it could then be the same reason people bought STs. Is it? No? Oh. I see.

Fucking 'tards these days. You can't be so caught up in your own bullshit and not have some sort of mental disorder...

>>1234991

Where are the MIDI interfaces for Android? That's right, nowhere.

And even if there were, who would want to interface their MIDI devices with a piece of shit high-latency device like that?

But I see you're back to clutching for autistic "semantics" - according to you, it must be the EXACT same reason people bought STs for. It can't simply be the argument 'for the same reason people bought STs for - way better audio capabilities'. No, you have to fall back on autistic arguments over semantics.

>>1234981
But it's their inflexibility that is the problem. They are bad engineers, is all.

>>1235012

If your product is dependent on the host device having low latency - how do you figure they "engineer" around that when the devices simply have insanely high audio latency?

It's like saying - "I want to run Metroid Prime on my NES - if you can't make it happen, you are a bad engineer - obviously".

>>1235023
There's a legitimate comparison: if you can't run Metroid Prime on a PS2, you are.

>>1234994
>buttraging aspie is buttraging

OH NOES, hipster fagget wanna-be musicians can't make tunes on Android while riding the bus! Oh man, Android is SO missing out on this front. Whatever will we do?

>Google announced that 1 billion Android devices have been activated.

Just as I thought, the world at large still not giving a shit about audio latency.

>>1235037

> Just as I thought, the world at large still not giving a shit about audio latency.

Maybe, but it matters hugely for emulation. And therefore it's very important.

Unless you are in the wrong thread. This thread is about RetroArch, ie. emulation.

>>1235043
You can not install RetroArch on iOS without voiding your warranty and letting the Cydia through, which is worse even than the Appstore, though. So, in a proper mobile emulation thread, iOS is off-topic, low latency or no.

>>1234903
>I'm so glad Broglia isn't this fucking mentally ill. And he just makes $$$$ all day, son.

>>1235053

You can install RetroArch on iOS.

It involves getting a developer license and compiling from source. Dynarecs won't work though.

Anyway, this is why people jailbreak.

>>1234762
His username on github is twinaphex, the nick he used before SP. The majority of the commits are made by him if you check the log.

>>1235072
>It involves getting a developer license and compiling from source.
Which involves buying a Mac. I.e., at least a thousand grand for laptop-grade hardware just to install a free an dopen-source freaking emulator.

My god, Apple is the worst.

>>1235043
>>Unless you are in the wrong thread. This thread is about RetroArch, ie. emulation

It is? Phew! It looked like a I-live-in-mommy's-basement-and-shit-on-android-audio-all-day thread for a second there! Good to know!

>>1234762
His username is Twinaphex on Github

>All these people in denial about Android's shortcomings vs iOS

I own an android phone but I still realize the Dalvik hurts it massively

>>1235119
Are you dumb or something? High audio latency is bad for emulation. I always set my audio latency as low as possible on PC to avoid audio lag

>>1235235

He just wants to hate. There is no logic to it.

did SP throw a tantrum (again) and bring in some cheerleaders in for moral support? bu-bu-buh audio! lol, fags.

>>1234797

>I'm so autistic I feel I don't need to offer even the basic respect towards people

>>1234819

Well, if "autist" translates into a high ego selfish piece of shit with next to no regard for others, then yeah.

>>1235310

Why bother when the users don't offer it back anyway?

>>1235298

>bringing up legitimate points about audio latency on Android vs iOS is now throwing a tantrum

Not his fault you don't have the knowledge to understand what he is talking about. Then again, par for the course on this board since people here know little of the technical details of emulation.

>>1235268

You probably say that about anyone hating anything you like for any reason

ITT: Arsebuggers and people who think 20ms is detectable by human beans.

>>1235389

16ms is the most a video frame can take if you want to achieve 60 frames per second in a videogame.

Just to show what an absolutely idiotic idiot you are.

>>1235450
>>Just to show what an absolutely idiotic idiot you are.

He's talking audio latency, you're talking about video. Hardly anyone will notice audio lagging 2 or 3 frames, video is an entirely different story. Are SP's groupies as retarded as he is?

>>1235469

> He's talking audio latency, you're talking about video. Hardly anyone will notice audio lagging 2 or 3 frames, video is an entirely different story

You obviously didn't read this thread very thoroughly.

Let me CTRL-F that for you -

> - since audio latency matters hugely for emulators since they have to abide by two reference clocks - one for video, one for audio. And we have to block on both audio and video at the same time - a paradox that you won't find in regular games or other applications.

> Are SP's groupies as retarded as he is?

Look who's talking now

>>1235483

Oh I read it just fine.

>>And we have to block on both audio and video at the same time - a paradox that you won't find in regular games or other applications, or emulators programmed by actually competent, non-autist programmers.

>fixed!

>audio latency relevance, still largely irrelevant.

>>1235531

> >>And we have to block on both audio and video at the same time - a paradox that you won't find in regular games or other applications, or emulators programmed by actually competent, non-autist programmers.

You mean you want audio buffering up the ass and the occasional audio crackle here and there, and the occasional video skip?

Yeah, get luck with that son. I can see why you prefer the Shitlerian .emus.

>>1235298

I wouldn't really call this a "tantrum". Him blowing up on reddit at byuu was a tantrum.

>>1235561

It's more a test of exactly how "dumb" you people who find every reason to bring me up in every thread really are.

And the conclusion thus far? You don't want to know the tally count really.

>>1235565

SP, I thought you said you were leaving 4chan/reddit? This is the 90th time right?

>>1235574

Why not? I find it fun. Something to do inbetween coding is always fun.

>>1235582
How about you put that giant brain behind something that fucking matters.

>>1235596

Like doing what? What are you doing that "matters" right now? Not much is it?

So what's your excuse?

>>1235601
Me? I'm just a muse.

Perhaps you should consider working on something original.

>>1235596
giant? really?

>>1235606

> Perhaps you should consider working on something original.

I am. OKthnx.

>>1235610
>Emulating=Original

>>1235615

It's nothing to do with emulation either. And it's not intended for you pedophiles either.

This isn't SP posting now, and you're just falling for trolls.

>>1235618

>a pill for the world that gives worms to ex-girlfriends.

>>1235623
Doesn't matter. He's here.

>>1235623

Ah damn - I had a good racket going :P

Talking of baiting.

>>1235625

Talking of being paranoid.

Squareboogeyman.

>>1235632

Mah subnets.

>>1235627

SP's posting style is very distinct. You need a lot of work if you want to immitate him.

>>1235637

We should hold seminars so that you too can write like SP.

>>1235637

No you don't. just append "son" every other sentence, be sure to whine ad nauseum about android, pretend porting code is serious bizness that elevates him to Carmackdom, and that's pretty much it.

>>1235652

Most of the emu coders these days just use ready off-the-shelf CPU interpreters too, you know. Wow. Mad sk8llz.

I always like seeing people getting buttblasted over SP's posts.

>>1235702
>opposite of reality
lol

Don't any of you have a fucking life?

Who the fuck cares about "SP this, SP that"? Who the motherfuck cares? Talk about something that fucking matters like the subject matter dickheads.

Mods need to step in at some point and ban all your fucking asses if this bullshit doesn't stop.

>>1235917

It's his fault for melting down and blowing up at people so much. His personality has over shadowed his project.

>>1235925

> It's his fault for melting down and blowing up at people so much. His personality has over shadowed his project.

Fuck off with that bullshit. Only a couple of autist faggots on 4chan/reddit care about this shit.

And they can get their ass banned if they don't get the message and stop talking about this shit.

I want to hear about RetroArch and not about you faggots' fucking butthurt obsession with this guy.

That goes for you too BTW.

>>1235941

I'm just saying. People are gossipy, and some spazzing out is fun to watch. SP's rants usually give me a laugh. I don't bring it up or make these threads do. Don't be surprised if he's got a bit of a hatedom growing.

>>1235941
>And they can get their ass banned if they don't get the message and stop talking about this shit.

They might have to ban emu threads here, isnce they're not very retro and they are always shitstorms.

>>1227271
No is a glorified front end for emulators

>>1235960
>No is the best front end for emulators

Fixed that.

>>1235964
>>A GLORIFIED FRONTEND FOR PEOPLE TO LAZY TO LEARN HOW TO CONFIGURE EMULATORS
re fixed

>>1235995

Stop shitting up the thread.

Reported.

>>1235995
See:
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/RetroArch#Features

and:
>>1227882

And many emulators just don't have great audio/visual settings or output.

Jesus christ, are you turbo nerds actually throwing a shitstorm over this yet AGAIN? This is like the third or fourth thread about this emulator thing, and every single one had been nothing but spergs sperging out over others liking what they don't like.

Play some fucking video games or something.

>>1235702
This. And, I bet, so does he. He only acts like that because it invariably wins such a strong and entertaining reaction out of some thin-skinned impressable fruits.

>>1236105
>3rd or 4th
There have probably been over a hundred by now....

>>1236010

>I-I'm going to report you b-bully! S-stop hating my project!

>>1236105

1. The devs are unstable little bitches who turn any thread into a flamewar
2. People don't like the devs and shit on it
3. Trolls see these two and rile things up (mostly 1 and 2 though)

>>1236131
The first few posts that started the shitstorm that is still raging were either from a troll or someone with a humongous RetroArch hateboner. I don't like dev drama either, but this time around it was not on them for this thread becoming the shit it currently is, at least not until later when SP came around.

Anyway, I concur with what someone else said. Emulation threads should be banned from /vr/. Nothing but trolling and senseless shitstorms come from them, and are in an on-topic gray area anyway. If you can't keep it in /vg/, take it to /v/, where said trolling and shitstorms are the norm anyway, and who cares about pissing in an ocean of piss. Spare /vr/ from that bullshit.

>>1236153

Trolls flock to where they see blood in the water. Whatever gets the biggest reaction. And I think there's a few with a personal grudge against SP.

Who the fuck is squarepusher?

>>1236286

Lead RA dev.

>>1236294
I see. That's a shame.

>>1235081
>>1235172
Thought so. Thanks for the confirmation though.

>>1235917
>>1235941

Who the fuck are you to decide what we discuss? Kindly kill yourself.

>>1236308
Why?

>>1237410

Calm down nerd and take ur meds.

>All these butt devastated Mednafen users
>mfw

they need to filter retroarch so we can finally stop having these butt hurt threads

>>1238381

More like filter all emulators period

Emulator discussion belongs on /vg/

>>>/vg/emulation

>2013
>retroshit does not have per system configs

>>1238969
Nor does it need them, which is the whole point.

>>1238973
it doesn't need anything. it's perfect just as it is: IN OBSCURITY.

>>1238987
Emulators aren't particularly mainstream in general. And among the emulating community, RA is the hottest topic right now.

>>1238969
>>1238973
Why do people keep saying this?

>>1239045

Manually creating one per system and then manually switching is not the same. A user shouldn't have to manually rectify an oversight in design of the system.

This is just one of the many reasons why Mednafen is much better.

>>1239045
Automagically loading a <systemname>.cfg seems like a good solution to the majority case, though probably still insufficient for MAME.

>>1239059

Why bother when most of the time you don't need separate configs? Manually switching for the rare occasion a separate one is need isn't a big deal at all. You can also make small config files with only the options you want asserted and make a shortcut with --appendconfig.

>>1239076

The MAME 2013 core has it's own configs on top of RetroArch's, so you can do everything you can do in regular MAME

>>1239076
>Automagically loading a <systemname>.cfg seems like a good solution to the majority case

Can't. Because of reasons.

Ain't RetroArch glorious?

>>1239045

Because BAWW NOT AUTOMATIC ENOUGH FOR MY LAZY ASS

>>1239098

>good gui is bad
>good features are bad
>wonders why retroshit is obscure as hell

>>1239145

Who the hell are you quoting?

You're just making shit up now

Every single game should have its own emulator configuration settings, save files and other assets stored indipendently of all others.

http://code.google.com/p/rom-jacket

>>1239089
Has it been proposed? Hell this seems like a trivial thing to add in myself and I'm not even much of a programmer.

>>1239203

Make a pull request.

The devs are stubborn as hell and this likely violates one of their autistic rules or something. Might be better to fork it and purify RA from the autism.

>>1239203

Probably not because only the autist who keeps bitching about it really cares about it and I haven't seen anyone make a formal request for that, only the ability to swap configs from within RGUI which was actually added a couple of months ago.

If you really want something added, go ask nicely in the proper places
http://www.libretro.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2
https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/issues
or on #retroarch on Freenode.net

Bitching about it on 4chan doesn't solve anything

>>1227271
don't there is no point. its pure shit for gays.

>>1234718
>entitled cunts

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA were talking about a fucking emulator here get over yourself squarepusher. Folk hero on level with sun wukong. Nice unwarranted sense of self importance you autistic piece of shit. Nobody gives a fuck about you or your shitty frontend.

>>1239246

/v/ quality shitposting right here

Then again, all emulation threads on /vr/ are full of /v/ quality shitposting.

>>1234785

Most coders are crazy and freak out over nothing. Have you seen the guy who designs the Sonic Megamix levels? Not the kind of person you want handling sharp objects.

I think it's because they have little to no right brain activity going on, so naturally they lack the restraint that any normal person would have.

>>1239207
>The devs are stubborn as hell and this likely violates one of their autistic rules or something.

They'll add it as long as the code is clean and it doesn't conflict with what they already have.

>Might be better to fork it and purify RA from the autism.

You shouldn't fork unless you're substantially changing the codebase or if upstream is totally dead and non responsive to where you can't share your changes.

>>1239261
>Most coders are crazy and freak out over nothing.

I've noticed. Programmers in general are freaks. Programmers who are also manchildren retro gamers? Yeah, you're not gonna find anyone stable among the bunch.

>>1239309

At least they contributed something instead of sitting on their fat asses...

That alone makes them better than the users, who are really just as bad anyway except they never produced anything.

>>1239316

You can't really say whether someone has or hasn't contributed something. For all you know they're working in soup kitchens. But hell, whatever makes these guys feel better about how they behave.

>>1239302
You should fork any time you have a good reason to. If you want to take the project in a different direction by adding features the devs believe are important fork it. If the devs are creating a toxic brand by being autistic assholes fork it.

>>1239328
99% of emulator users contribute nothing. 1% of them may be like me and have contributed code or resources on occasion. Still those contributions are nothing compared to the people who actually coded the programs we use and did the research to make them function correctly. Your actions speak louder than your words, what some devs say on some forum matters far less than the works they produce.

What user's do outside of emulation has no relevance towards emulation. An emulator user could have discovered a cancer cure but that doesn't further emulation progress at all.

>>1239353

99% of statistics are made up. Anyway, the point was, that person isn't necessarily lazy; they may have just chosen to focus their efforts towards something else.

>Your actions speak louder than your words

Words are more powerful than you think. They can produce actions on a monumental scale. The right attitude can produce some very positive results.

Man what a freaking nuthouse in here.

>>1239378

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-VtFJ0eMTw

>>1239346
> If you want to take the project in a different direction by adding features the devs believe are important fork it.

That falls under substantial changes. And I mean large changes to the underlying structure of the program, not just to add 1 or 2 features.

>If the devs are creating a toxic brand by being autistic assholes fork it.

That falls under upstream being dead or unresponsive. The libretro API is actually a fork of the libsnes API that byuu originally created, he was taking it in a direction they didn't want to go. The bsnes libretro is technically a fork, because byuu doesn't want dirty outside code he didn't personally write polluting his beautiful codebase,

>>1239378
emulator threads are one of the /vr/ subjects we need to keep in mind for when we say we're better than /v/

if you want to keep the board quality up, stop participating in autism fests, guys. it'd be kinda nice if we could get a "ayn rand"-esque ban going on here for a while, at least until the board learns to contain their autism

>>1239378

All emulation threads on /vr/ are like this.

>>1239375

Maybe if it's on some kind of mass media. But things some dev says in some worthless forum thread (including 4chan and Reddit emulation threads) means very little outside of those threads.

>>1239390
It's worth forking to add a single feature if the original team is unable or unwilling to implement it. I've worked on many open source projects. I'm usually optimizing core functions so have no interest in forking but a number of projects I've worked on have been forked because someone wanted to add a feature. No one ever got upset, in fact everyone was usually happy to have the features available and not have to do the work themselves. If the results were good they were often integrated into the main repo.

The amount of petty bitching and butthurt I see in the emu scene is pathetic. Many people have no idea what open source is about. That's why I say it's worth forking something just to get away from someone who's being a little bitch.

>>1239395

Who knows, you may be able to motivate a very valuable coder, even if it is just one person. That's just my two cents though. Assuming this is squarepusher, it was nice talking to you. Good luck on the DMCA business, hope that all goes well.

>>1239535

There's a lot of fear in the emu scene about someone taking GPL emu code and selling it on Google Play without the original author's permission. That's why a lot of emulator authors are moving towards non-commercial licenses to forbid that behaviour, or keeping their source closed and selling it themselves like Exophase did for DraStic.

>>1239564

It has never been proven it was a DMCA takedown.

>>1239614
There is not a lot of fear about people taking GPL code and selling Linux distributions like Redhat, Suse, etc. This is mainly because Linux devs are mostly professional adults who understand what open source is as opposed to autistic kids like the emu scene.

Also, what GPL code does DraStic use?

>>1239193

oh wow, you just described game folders. good luck trying to convince the idiots here of its value, much less SP.

>>1239261
>>1239309
>>1239378

>Most coders are crazy and freak out over nothing.
>Programmers in general are freaks.
>Man what a freaking nuthouse in here.

>>1239614
>>1239614
There is NO need to ask for permission, you fucking freetard.

The authors chose a fucking FREE SOFTWARE LICENSE. That means people can do whatever the fuck they want to as long as they guarantee Stallman's autistic rights.

You can't relicense anything without written permission from all copyright holders. That means everyone who contributed even a single line of code to the project. That's why GNU requires you to waive your copyright in written form.

And even if you did, it'd only apply to newer versions of your piece of shit emulator. Older versions will still be licensed with GPL, so you're pretty fucked if you're autistic to the point of caring whether someone is selling your shit.

Why you don't just go and provide an free android package yourself is beyond me. Seems like a logical course of action if you're this butthurt.

>>1239936

I am convinced that this is the future. It should be obvious to people who want to maintain a coherent library.
Perhaps when RA is more sophisticated/complete, there will be something for the paradigm.

>>1240016

RetroArch is not about pokerom collections.

And anything byuu is abhorrent. It gets rejected for that reason alone.

>>1240038

if I had to guess what RA was about from this thread, it certainly would NOT be the end user.

How do you set the key map in retroarch? It only detects my gamepad key presses in input options, not my keyboard.

>>1240042

The RGUI button mapping doesn't support keyboard input yet.

Why play console games with a keyboard anyway? It's pretty much like using a horse and buggy on the freeway.

>>1240057
Using controllers gives me muscle cramps.

>>1240061

> Playing console games meant for playing with gamepads on a keyboard

>>1240064
>Implying I don't have an F710
>Implying I didn't use it for a week
>Implying after such a timeframe I came to the conclusion that I find it more comfortable to play console games with a keyboard

>>1240069
> Implying playing console games with a keyboard isn't insane

Only playing with touchscreen controls would be even more insane.

>>1240073
Then call me Mister I. N. Sane, because my f710 has an inch of dust on the casing and right now I'm going through retroarch.cfg setting up very reasonable keyboard keybindings.

>>1240084

Phoenix can also be used for this purpose. It might be easier than manually editing cfg files and it still works with RA.

>>1239920
Nobody would pay for Linux anyway so developers aren't afraid of that happening. No but seriously, Linux being free and open sores is widespread knowledge, so there isn't much fear of a non-gratis version taking over the market while contributing nothing. You have projects like CentOS that compiles RHEL code to make it usable for anyone without payment.

Payware emulators wouldn't be a problem if they kept their end of the GPL bargain, providing their proper, compilable sources. Given the choice between a shitty emulator costing money and a shitty emulator that's free, I doubt many people would open their wallets. Unfortunately porters in the mobile space have no ethics and morals, and no original developers have risen up to sue their profits away yet.

Btw, above poster never said anything about DraStic infringing on GPL code, but it is a prefect example of the current negative trend on mobile. Payware emulators are disgusting and a threat to emulation as a whole. When code doesn't get shared, other developers can't benefit from it. Without sharing of knowledge, every single developer must research the same things from scratch. Instead of being able to reuse a good implementation of function X, every developer must reinvent the wheel. It's a waste of time and resources. End users get nothing but worse emulation for it. Thanks for running everything, money-grubbing subhuman scum devs!

>>1240149
I remember last time payware emulators were even relevant was back in the late 90's/early 2000's, after which they either got sued out of the market or else shamed and made irrelevant by superior free alternatives. Then the Google Play Store happened and gave them a space to spread like a cancerous tumor once again.

>>1240149
>Payware emulators are disgusting and a threat to emulation as a whole

Perhaps the same could be said of ALL software.

>>1240180

Stop quoting Dracula from SOTN and changing one word in the sentence.

>>1240180
However, an important distinction between emulators and other software is that emulators are routinely used to play pirated games. As such, payware emulator authors are making bank from the facilitation of copyright infringement. While I don't give a fuck about copyright, there is something seriously wrong, I feel, with this situation, and I cannot believe Google does not give a single fuck and just turns a blind eye. Any legitimacy emulation may have had is instantly suspect the moment commercialization happens. It's like adding a big red target for Nintendo, Sony, and others to go after the emu scene as a whole, all because of some scumbag Jews who wanna make a quick buck off the hard work of others.

>>1239969
>Why you don't just go and provide an free android package yourself is beyond me

That's exactly what RetroArch on Android is doing.

Just because it's legally OK to sell someone else's work without permission doesn't mean it's morally OK to do so.

>>1240207

THIS.

The delivery system for roms isn't as easy or convenient as Nintendo and Sony make it.

Yet.

>>1240205
>morals

Nobody cares about the exact degree of butthurt someone selling the shit you made for free induces in you. Maybe they shouldn't have pretended to be freetards if they don't have the will to actually give away software altruistically.

>>1240038
>And anything byuu is abhorrent. It gets rejected for that reason alone.

Shows how much of a raging retard you are.

>>1240057
>The RGUI button mapping doesn't support keyboard input yet.

It's shit.

>Why play console games with a keyboard anyway? It's pretty much like using a horse and buggy on the freeway.

I do. Keyboards are superior, but I'm sure you'll go full autist in justifying RA's a piece of shit that doesn't support an incredibly basic, fundamental, easy to implement feature.

>>1240149
If they adapted the emulator and don't provide source, report them to GPL violations or some shit. If they're derivative works and don't provide source, they're also violating the GPL. Not sure if a simple wrapper over a GPL project is a derivative work though. Probably not.

Please shut up about your indoctrinated reinvent the wheel bullshit. People do it all the time for all kinds of purposes, from learning to doing it better than the idiot who came before. Retro Arch did it in the front end regard, like many before it have done.

If you don't like how devs are charging for things, make free versions yourself. That's how you change shit. Don't bitch at them for doing something that isn't fucking prohibited. Only pretend freetards do that.

>>1240180
>people cannot be paid for their work

Not even Stallman is this autistic.

>>1239254
No SP just thinks he matters because 12 year olds bug him about his emulator. He's not a hero to anybody, nobody gives a shit who he is.

ITT fools who think you need to provide solutions to have valid criticism.

I can tell an artist that his painting is shitty and just because I can't do one any better doesn't make his less shitty.

You don't have to contribute anything to have a valid criticism SP and all the other autists in the emulation scene in this thread need to get over yourselves. Just because nobody here is making their own emulator doesn't mean yours is not shitty.

This thread is an absolute eyesore. Who on earth enjoys or otherwise dedicates their lives to taking part in these shit flinging matches?

>>1240149
Some people do pay for Linux. They wouldn't bother to make RHEL if everyone just used Centos instead.

The solution to people violating open source licenses is to enforce them. Any serious company will take down an app if they're told about it.

Sorry, misunderstood what the guy was saying about DraStic.

>>1240205
But they have permission, that's why it's legal. When you build on a previous GPL work or you get people to volunteer their time to develop GPL software you are agreeing to release your work under the GPL.

If you want to sit in your basement and code the whole thing your self or hire people to do it for you then fine. The code's all yours.

>>1240207
The only thing kids use MS Word for is to prepare plagiarized reports for school. Microsoft is profiting off their copyright infringement. Understand where you're coming from but emulators are just a tool and there's a long history of case law to support that.

>>1240607
>Who on earth enjoys or otherwise dedicates their lives to taking part in these shit flinging matches?

People with the 'tism. I like them here. Look at it this way: if they're in here shitting on each other, they aren't shitting up the rest of /vr/. Let the kiddies have their playpen.

>>1240356
>Keyboards are superior,

LOL kids these days are dumb

>>1240378
This is what shit eating end users actually believe

>>1240607
Emulator threads should be banned on /vr/.

>>1240607

Tell the Retro Shills to avoid responding to negativity. Do that and these threads would die in a few hours. But no, they need to defend their shitty program's honor on the internet.

>>1240842

Keyboards predate most of your precious controllers and are the superior input method for all digital input, which means everything before the Playstation plays better on keyboards. You're the kid here.

>>1241181
Stickless arcade stick is superior.

>>1241195
Mostly similar button layout but with less buttons, less possibilities and less freedom. Also, it's a potentially game-specific input device.

Still good though. Would still use my keyboard, but good.

>>1241181
>there are people who actually believe this

Having fun not being able to register more than 3 inputs at once?

>>1241212
But higher quality buttons with less travel so faster.

>>1241123
>how dare someone like something I don't like

>>1241231
Good keyboards support PS/2 interface and n-key rollover. But latency is bad on a lot of keyboards because of slow matrix scanning and debouncing.

RGUI doesn't re-map keyboard keys yet. You have to manually edit the configure file for changing keyboard input. I don't know why they did joypad configuration before keyboard.

>>1241195
I just saw this pic in the Spacewar wikipedia article. Original and best game controller.

>>1241241
You can still use the Phoenix launcher for that

RGUI is a gamepad based interface since all platforms RetroArch is on support gamepad input

>>1241231
My cheap ass generic mechanical keyboard can register pretty much the entire home row at once. I can also easily combine it with the rows directly above and below for master race key mapping. Never once have I experienced any ghosting. Stay mad.

>>1241237
Probably not slow enough to matter. I play shmups and win at fighting games just fine.

>>1241232
>higher quality buttons

Nothing feels better and has better tactile feedback than a mechanical keyboard.

>faster

Are you talking about the time it takes to register a key press or something? Because I believe that can be adjusted to your liking.

Is this thread some kind of parody of petty internet arguments?

Keyboards? This is really what we're arguing now?

You niggers don't have ANYTHING better to do on a Monday morning?

>>1241275
Who the fuck are you to say what we should and shouldn't discuss?

>>1241261
>mechanical keyboard

Oh you're one of THOSE people. It explains the pointless elitism

>>1241275
Some mechanical keyboard hipster pretending his preference is superior to everyone else's

>>1241305
>>1241312

So I'm elitist for using a ubiquitous input device for retro gaming because it's actually better than most controllers for all games with no analog input? I don't think so. You're just dumb and uneducated.

Maybe you want to use controllers out of nostalgia; that's fine, but don't come here saying keyboards are inferior to controllers because by doing that you just prove yourself retarded.

>>1241326
You're elitist for thinking your preference is an irrefutable fact that everyone should abide by

>>1241342

Well, it's been pretty much irrefutable so far. It's not like any of you can actually argue against keyboards; if you could, you'd have done so by now. Or do you consider >>1240842 anything but shitposting by an ignorant fool? Your post describes him perfectly, actually.

Good job hiding under the subjectivity bullshit by the way, even though we're talking about input device technology.

>>1241352

wow, what a douchebag

>>1241352
Keys have too much travel (yes, I know mechanical keyswitches trigger at partial travel, but in practice you're going to bottom them out in intense gaming situations).
Keys are not positioned optimally.
Keyboard is too light and awkward to hold in your lap so you can't play on a comfortable sofa.

Keyboard is good, but stickless stick is better.

>>1241370
>too much travel

I've not found this to be a significant issue and I've been using keyboards for gaming pretty much ever since I was born. It doesn't seem to affect my timing or ability.

Some other keyboard type other than mechanical may have shorter key travels if it bothers the user that much.

>keys are not positioned optimally

In what way? I map controller buttons so that I'm able to use all the fingers of my left hand to press as many buttons as possible.

You can map it so that you can press all of the buttons of an SNES controller comfortably and at any time, which beats using your thumb to press 1, at most 2 buttons of the ABXY cluster.

It's comfortable and usable. There are so many keys, you can and should experiment with the layout until you find something that's comfortable.

>Keyboard is too light and awkward to hold in your lap so you can't play on a comfortable sofa.

I agree with you in that occasion. I do most of my gaming on my PC so using a keyboard is natural.

I know I saw a post about "muh artwork" after someone else talked about the superior sync and sound and such.

I for one like that RetroArch has a standard command line interface for each core, which means I can launch from what-the-fuck-ever and still have the nifty features of RetroArch while still having artwork and such from something like XBMC.
I'm not entirely sure how up to par other emulators are on command line launching, though I know a good many do it. Retroarch just does it well, and with the same basic layout.

>>1241427
I can play him using the arrow keys just fine. It takes a bit of practice though.

Fortunately, with a keyboard you can remap keys, which means you don't even need to practice. You can map it to something like UIOP, which makes it even easier than using a controller or arcade stick: you just push the 4 buttons in a series to do a spinning motion.

>>1241435
It's better to have the direction keys in a curve so you can use your thumb.

>>1241237
what's the difference between that and USB

>>1241609
USB allows a maximum of 7 keys at once.

>>1241695
Even in software that expects a controller, I doubt there's ever need for more than 7 keys at a time.

I like Squarepusher. He's a pretty cool guy.

>>1241862
He's autismical.

>>1242629
So is everyone in this thread really

>>1242658
>implying anyone on 4chan knows what autism is

it's a cool bundle pack for free. i use it.

snes, nes, atari, etc., et.c

i only play rpgs or start sims though......you can't really play mega man or mario on your android it's too cumbersome.

>>1242721
>>1242730
Fuck off retroshills

>>1242803

The real shills are the people who defend paying for emulators

>>1242629
>Squarepusher
>autismical

Uh, I think you're thinking of Ceephax.

How the fuck do you people get so fucking angry about what software random, anonymous strangers on the internet use? Is this entire fucking board underage? I'm so disgusted. Seriously, even if you don't like the software, what the fuck would drive you insult people on the internet for using it? Are you people just incapable of accepting the fact that someone does something differently than you? This is appalling. I don't even fucking emulate! What the absolute fuck is going through your heads?

>>1243005

10/10 copypasta

This thread is hilarious.

Looks like Phoenix is making a comeback.

https://github.com/twinaphex/RetroArch-Phoenix

>>1244689

>Reviving a shitty thread that was on its way to dying

Back on track, can the PC version (not interested in wii etc) of this output native resolutions? Like 240p etc. Kthnx.

>>1245473

It can if your video card can. I can do 1280x240 @ 120hz with black frame insertion in RetroArch.

There should be an option to change the RGUI controls. I really don't like how Escape quits the program. and how z and x are Confirm and Back.

There should either be options to change them

or

they should be set to something more intuitive like

COnfirm = enter

back = escape

quit = alt +f4

>>1245580

You can't change keyboard via RGUI. But you can do it via config.

Notice how the OPs in these threads never come back ? THey just post the thread and vanish.

Mightly suspicious.

>>1232957
It's almost as if everyone who touches retroarch sucks dick at GUIs.

>>1245602

>complaining about version v0.0.0.1

Scumbag end user detected.

Wow, you're using a better emulator than most other people. How cool. Insulting the others for their software choice really doesn't make you look like an acne ridden, sexually frustrated teenager with too much time. I bet you're fun to be around and really popular with the ladies.

Ban emulation talk from /vr/

>>1245645

>ass pained zsnes cultist detected

>>1245648

Just don't mix up the apple juice with your piss bottle, dude.

>>1245613
>people can't criticize my shitty software

Autistic developer detected.

>>1245645
I don't think teenagers use emulators. Teenagers who didn't get an xbawks declare the master race and watch Minecraft on Youtube.

>>1245970
I'm 19. I've been using emulators since I was what, 12? What do you know?

>>1246070
>I'm 19.

Pics?

>>1245591
I reported this thread several times and somehow it still hasn't been deleted yet. Can janitors not spot an obvious troll thread?

http://www.wikihow.com/Detect-a-Sociopath

To those calling SP a sociopath.

>Observe sense of morality. Most human beings live by some moral code of ethics. The sociopath, on the other hand, often skirts morality for personal benefit.

SP has a very specific view on right/wrong.

>>1247639

>reporting on topic threads

Why does retroarch only support up to the playstation gen? Or more accurately, why does it not support the PS2? Are there no cores for it or does the API lack the technical horsepower to emulate the PS2?

>>1248590
The biggest problem is that it'd only be available on x86-based systems. The required APIs may surface with what they're doing for Mupen64plus though.

>someone agrees with squarepusher
>SQUAREPUSHER PLS GO

>someone agrees with byuu
>BYUU PLS GO

How fucking paranoid are you guys? There's no way to prove either of those people's posts because it's a fucking anonymous imageboard, and posting styles can intersect quite frequently.

>>1240371
seems like you do, what with all the attention you give him. He wouldn't be such a big deal if you just shut the fuck up about him. Don't tell me nobody cares about him when people posts about him all over this thread, curb your denial, please.

>>1248775
PCSX2 isn't portable enough?

>>1248828
And it's not like byuu and squarepusher know their shit right?

They both have great, technologically-sound ideas. Ideas that are often get rejected by each other and the people here on the basis of "it comes from that autist byuu/squarepusher, so it's shit".