/vr/ - Retro Games

Pls have daikatanaguy in samsrarara

>>1249953
>samsrarara
Oh no.
You didn't

what would /v/.wad contain? what kind of enemies would it have?

discus

>>1249956
>Fuck-n-Scoot.gif

>>1249962
Who cares? The whole map would be populated with Mancubi.

>>1249963
pls tell me tumbling cacos are a real thing

>>1249956
Have some music with that anon

>>1249969
A 50/50 mix of mancubi and skellingtons I believe.

>>1249970
>DSP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCent_2q7ZE

>>1249962
Anita, DSP, and PewDiePie are some that come to mind.

>>1249970
Being able to slaughter Anita in a doom wad would elicit so much SJW butthurt.

>>1249956
Have some music with that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBu0Iqlrunw

>>1249974
Why hasn't this been done?
replace chainsaw with rape attack

>>1249969
>>1249972

I hear ya.

Mancubi will be replaced with Fatlusi, I have the sprites done already, they only need tweaking so they look like shirts

>>1249970
>>1249974


I would prefer to have 'em just as texture walls, graffitis of 'em plastered all over the place, since the whole level is basically a representation of said board

>>1249967
should totally be an enemy like they roll towards you and blow up

>>1249973
>no WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>1249949
op is using my shitty photoshop :>

You know I think you remake these shitty threads often enough to get yourself off to /vg/ now.

>>1249973

Rottking is such a dickhead, why he hasn't posted a download link to it already?

>>1249985
>DOOM threads
>shit
There's a reason it's not on /vg/

What were they thinking?

>>1249992
Maybe it's supposed to be a meuseum of decorations?

>>1249992
Get with it game developers

>>1249992

If my memory serves me right, Community Chest is a mixture of quality-varying maps done by random people.

>>1249992
At first I thought that was Doom2-4xbigger.wad.

>>1249962
>Get to end of level
>"My body is ready"
>A giant Reggie is revealed
>Kill him
>Resurrects as pic related

>>1249970
I don't see /v/ talking about Anita as much, ditto with PDP, though DSP for some reason is still relevant.

I think it would be better if such a wad had elements that are there to stay with /v/, rather than those fleeting after every six months.

posting my question again

does anyone happens to have that gameplay mod that turned everything into a destroyable item, and made it into an OP pic a long time ago?

>>1249992
Didn't know Hell had a Home Depot.

>>1249963

You've seen what the berserk pack does to his punches, just imagine what it does to his dong

>>1249985
Never going to happen. Word of god has already okayed them being posted here. Suck a fag, dick.

So, here's my initial sprite/concept for the Revenant girl. Still needs some polish/work, but i'm pretty sure this is what i'm going with:
http://i.imgur.com/aRVlKFR.png

>>1250024
>revenant, any kind
>entirely flesh covered

>>1250024
lol holy shit thats awesome

>>1250024
>>1250028

Even the Doom 3 revenant had some kind of transparent halo thingie that kept its bones together

I would go with that concept of the Revenant without armor, it still had veins and a little bit of meat here and there

Just a suggestion, of course

>>1250028
>>1250036
dont listen to these fags. nobody wants to see doomguy fucking a skeleton. that doesnt even make sense.

>>1250040

To be fair, I never mentioned anything sexual

I'm in favour of just adding more variety, that's it. I even own myself a custom randomizer that changes certain undead marines with the female counterparts that are in realm667

>>1249983

>>1250024
Oh god why won't anyone help this man make a H-mod

>>1250058
>not posting the one with DSP photoshopped in
dear god.

>>1250024
will she still fire rockets even though its an h-mod?

>>1250024
>this is how a revenant would look like with flesh
>that's why they skin them before combat

>>1250072
It'll probably fire some shit that incapacitates you so she can bone you

>>1250078
DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

Still the guy who can make a Doom Bible related wad around?

>>1250091
>who can make

that, my friend, is something yet to be seen

>>1250076
I get all bitchy too if someone stole muh cuteness.

>>1250024

What happened to the bloodyhell 3 stuff or that one alien horror base?
Or is this just something different?

>>1250106
Ah, I haven't cancelled anything. I just tend to jump around between projects to keep motivation up (and to nail down ideas so they don't slip away.)

Actually working on some bloodyhell 3 stuff while i was working on that.

>>1250024
>http://i.imgur.com/aRVlKFR.png

If you made the walking animation a bit less exaggerated, I'd actually be interested in editing it and using it as a personal skin. She looks really cute.

>>1250118
Yeah, the walking animation is going to be a lot less weird. I just didn't do much to change anything here posture-wise since i wanted to get the design down.

>>1249980
more like a bowling ball
and they explode on contact

>>1249983

This one still amazes me

>implying the ideas guys will ever get to do anything from it

i just got word from my friend, you kids keep playing with those "krazy kool" mod ideas in your mind and never put 'em in practice, me and my pals are taking over this shit.

>>1250501
4chan has always been full of ideas guys that barely do anything to make them real.

Like Broquest

>>1250504

i wasn't exactly talking about 4chan, or /vr/ for that matter. what i like about this place is that, aside from little and pointless exceptions, we all are doers.

just for the record, that post wasn't directed at anybody in here. i love this place and i love y'all guys.

back to topic

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bmtj5v11srzp15p/NewCyber.wad

Download this
Hookup Ultimate Doom and warp over at E2M8
Post results. And more importantly, have fun

Source: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=725157#p725157

>>1250548
Jesus Christ man, That's pretty intense.
I felt like the last alien ship in space invaders the whole time.

>>1250556
>>1250548

it's fast but you can still circle strafe

I don't know, it's kinda cool but not all that interesting.

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=52a04a20e4b0341e173bb883

A poll is being had to decide /vr/'s mascot.
Make it doomguy!

>>1250719
Sorry man, I love Doom with all my heart, but it's pretty clear that the most /vr/ character of all is Cranky.

>>1250746
I preferred the blonde kid with the 3d glasses and red gun.
At least he looks happy and retro, cranky just seems to be playing into a stereotype.

>Get zdoom-dhtp-20130802.pk3
>it doesn't work
why ?

>>1250756
How are you trying to run it?
Give us details.

>>1250719
>>1250746
Silly newfags, we've already established one a while ago.

>>1250918

>>1250918
>>1250921
I dont mind it, certainly better than an old man (although i can understand it).

I'm talking though in the context of >>1246994

That thread.
I should have specified.

This never gets old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcSj0lk-vEo

People should take into account this was done while the crowd present at the event was only there just for the Quake Arena finals and not the Doom tournament at all

This match stole the night

>>1250937
Watched the first match, damn, that was well done!
I've never watched videogames played competitively before (with a crowed watching with commentators). That was actually quite something.

The commentators were good too.

AGITATE ME BONES

>>1249962
needs to have the obligatory slam jam song
if we're talking about what /v/ is now, there'd be signs saying no weeaboos and japan related stuff
maybe there be a yotsuba easter egg some place if you were to ignore the whole anti-japan thing

>>1250501
I will.

>>1251002
Like this?

>>1250867
look like it work now I downloaded the Zdoom version, even if I use GzDoom.

What games, modern or old, have gun handling that's more realistic than doom but still fun and a bit arcadey? I have this idea for a map, and I want to change things up a fair bit. I still want it to be fast though.

>>1251096
Serious Sam 3.

>>1251096
The Regiment was surprising for me. Give it a try.

>>1251101
Looks like a neat game, but not really what I'm after.
>>1251098
Brilliant, I didn't think of that. Really should get to playing it, loved TSE.

>>1251096
Painkiller.

>>1251096
Outlaws.

>>1251096
/k/ommando here, so I'm probably gonna be a bit autistic about this, but bear with me...

NO game, modern or old, simulates firearms or weapons manipulation well enough. Nobody has invented the hardware you'd need for that. A good deal of shooting is actually in your trigger pull...as in, you pull the trigger with a slight movement in the wrong direction, or too fast, or too "wrong", and the round is gonna miss entirely. You would need something like a wiimote (i.e. a cheap yet decent accelerometer) that has a haptic-feedback enabled trigger on it that can simulate trigger break.
Then there's all of the other things about weapons manipulation that would be retardedly difficult to get right. How do you simulate a stovepipe and how to clear it? How do you simulate squib loads? FTF? All sorts of things that would be hard to simulate, yet are all very real things that someone used to shooting is used to dealing with...

Anyway, you want a "more realistic" shooting experience in games?
write up some DECORATE to
a) make all of doom's weapons shoot dead on accurate
b) use setpitch() and setangle() to simulate recoil&followthrough

I wrote a couple of WADs for personal use that do this with default doom weapons and it's actually pretty fun; still plays like doom, but is a tad more "realistic"...

>>1251096
>arcadey
buzzword of the decade if I ever saw it

>>1251160
>A good deal of shooting is actually in your trigger pull...as in, you pull the trigger with a slight movement in the wrong direction, or too fast, or too "wrong", and the round is gonna miss entirely.

That'd depend on the skill of the operator, wouldn't it? As in, accuracy would be dependent on the character you're playing, perhaps with some kind of skill level system?

>Then there's all of the other things about weapons manipulation that would be retardedly difficult to get right. How do you simulate a stovepipe and how to clear it? How do you simulate squib loads? FTF? All sorts of things that would be hard to simulate,

Well, that could be handled with the reload button, mainly.
You get a stovepipe, so either you press the reload button to manually clear it, or part of it's animation is the character racking the charging-handle/picking out the casing.
Squibs would be a bit harder to deal with in the field, you'd probably have to take the weapon apart, depending on what kind of weapon
Failure To Feed would probably be solved by taking out the magazine, pulling back the charging handle, maybe some shaking to get out the missfed rounds, and if there's too many missfeeds/doublefeeds, the magazine would be discarded entirely.

>I wrote a couple of WADs for personal use that do this with default doom weapons and it's actually pretty fun; still plays like doom, but is a tad more "realistic"...

Me too, I use an edited graphic of the Alpha rifle as a select-fire battle-rifle, loud, kicks hard, but also hurts like a bastard. Among other things.

>>1251096
>>1251160
Vietcong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlvfqfGTar4

>Dat reference

Cacodemons can open a door. How?

>>1251354
they lick it open

>>1251354
Well, how does Doomguy open a door? You don't usually see handles or anything on them. Maybe you just need to touch up against a panel or something on the door to open them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8qWMaLdlE

What game is this song from?

>>1251326
?

>>1251367
Megaman X3 I think.

>>1251357
>a cacodemon will never lick your cock tip

Feels bad, man.

>>1251369
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRI1EIaI4pI

>>1251371
just go away, it's bad enough the people here want 'sexy' anthro monsters

>>1251374
Relax dude, I was only kidding.

>>1251376
you were, but the other guys weren't
and that's what worries me :(

>>1251383
They can jerk off to impcest (and whatever the fuck the ara ara hellknight would be) if they want, that doesn't mean the rest of us can't laugh at them for doing it.

>>1251392
it's not that it's not fun to make fun of them
it's that it could be sexy and they wanna be weird about it, you suggest they look less like animals and they flame you! furries, flaming you! on 4chan too! what has this website come to!?

>>1251397
>it's that it could be sexy and they wanna be weird about it, you suggest they look less like animals and they flame you!

Well, there's for some reason a lot of furries in the doom communities. Eitherway, furshit isn't allowed on 4chan, so you could always talk to moot about it, if it really bothers you.

Personally, I think it's kind of fucking hilarious, because who in their right mind wants to have sex with a fat hellknight?

>>1251406
she isnt fat. a better question would be why would you want to have sex with a pair of horse legs

Hey /vr/ what wad are you playing right now? Can you recommend it?

I'm working on a simple multiplayer skin wad, with SKININFO, SNDINFO, sound effects, and sprites. It's in the same structure as every other skin wad I've seen and played, yet whenever I try to run it, I get this error:

>Execution could not continue.
>R_InstallSprite: Sprite SNDI frame D is missing rotations

It's trying to read SNDINFO as a sprite for some reason. It was doing that earlier with various sound effects, too, until I renamed them. And it was always "frame D" for some reason.

Wat do?

>>1251414
Beyond Reality.

It's funny.

This level is so unique, it's amazing!

So, how do I make impassable linedefs passable after clicking a switch?

>>1251473
Not in Vanilla Doom.

>>1251414
Hellbound.
I highly recommend it.

>>1251482
WelI, I want to make invisible walls (only for the player, not for the enemies neither bullets/projectiles) disappear after clicking a switch.

>>1251491
Well, the walls can be passable for the enemies, too. Just not for bullets/projectiles.

>>1251491
Yeah, and you can't make that toggle with Vanilla Doom, you could do some fuckery with skyboxes, ceilings and missing textures, like in TNT Map:31, but they won't be able to see through the wall, and projectiles wont pass through at all.

>>1251374
>>1251376
>>1251383
>>1251392
>>1251397
>>1251406
>>1251408
>taking shit this seriously
>thinking monstergirls = furry
>even giving a shit at all
Where do we get these people?

>>1251513
Doom purists shit on everything

>>1251513
>monstergirls
>not furry
>dat denial

>>1251462
Great level, one of the highlights of the mostly average cc2. Music is fantastic. Shame the author accidentally zdoomism'd it resulting in a switch unpressable in prboom which also makes the level unfinishable, so a fix had to be released for speedrunners.

>>1251535
>not recognizing the distinct difference
>not realizing there are monstergirl threads (and actual, real furshit threads are banned)
>being this much of a scrub

>>1251538
CC wads in general are pretty damn fun. With a good mix of mappers, you get a lot of thematic and gameplay variety.

>>1251513
>>1251523
I'm fine with monster girls, dummy
I'm not fine with them NOT LOOKING LIKE GIRLS
Monster Girl Quest? Rance? Do you notice something? They're not abominations, with a million abs, they're sexy demon monster girls with some slight differences in features, horns, big ears, a tail
but never full on goat legs

>>1251546
one is half chick half real animal, one is half chick half made up shit.

yeah dude huge difference lol

and the guy defending his retarded weeaboo fetish shouldnt be throwing words like scrub around

>>1251551
>Monster Girl Quest
>some slight differences in features, horns, big ears, a tail

i don't think you actually played the game.

>>1251548
CC3 and 4 were quality stuff. so was was 1 for its time. 2 just felt like a third of the maps were shoed in cause there wasnt enough interest or something.

>>1251538
>>1251548
is CC3 better?

>>1251558
I remember liking 3 and 4 about the same, 4 has some seriously amazing late-game levels too (like those space/cyberspace ones)

>>1251473
not possible in vanilla -- at least not without all sorts of fuckery with textures and lifts.

Now then, in Zdoom, you can use the special Line_SetBlocking in either ACS, or (if you for some reason absolutely HAVE to use vanilla doom map format, as opposed to doom-in-hexen) use decorate to define a SwitchableDecoration actor that has TNT1A0 as it's sprite for all states that has Line_SetBlocking on one of it's active-state frames, and then place that said actor directly in front of your switch, so as to trigger the actor rather than the switch. Yeah, ghetto as fuck method, but it is what it is (I am forced to use Eureka, which doesn't support doom-in-hexen or ACS so I have to be this ghetto when mapping for zdoom)

>>1251556
yeah, some monsters have bottom halves like that purple snake chick
I wouldn't have to play it to see that shit, /v/ used to have regular MGC threads before anti-japan faggots moved in
point I'm making is, they look like women
what's being made doesn't, and the fact you don't refute my second point makes it clear you know what I am talking about and agree

Relevant to the current subject.

Pardon the shittiness, I am not a good artist.

>>1251567
idc how you look im not trusting a bitch with rocket shoulders

>>1251567
should've made a pun and said
"revenant to the current subject"
it's good, I don't get why it'd have glasses but it's a good image
8/10 would launch my missiles inside

>>1251567

>>1251567

>>1251567
Well I thought I hated you too.
I'm not sure how to feel now.

>>1251564
i don't have to refute your second point because they're both dogshit. the MGQ threads have a good bit of scrubs like you who complain about most of the monster girls not being 90% human. in one instance, there is literally a girl who is entirely a dragon up to her neck. there's several who have horse legs, goat legs, and a few who even have entire horse lower bodies.

>>1251564
From the second one onward they get more and more disgusting.

Like Beezlebub and most of the main artist's work.
Then in the third one they go full body horror.

>>1251583
yeah, the third one practically goes into The Thing territory.

>>1251567
That's pretty good. I'd AAAA the shit outta her.

>>1251570
Revenant-tan needs glasses because skeletons are not known for their good eyesight

>>1251564
>>1251581
>>1251583
meant to say what's being made does but there are suggestions to make them more like actual monsters
>>1251581
>have a good bit of scrubs like you who complain about most of the monster girls not being 90% human
I don't know where you're getting this shit from, at least they look kinda like girls
I pointed out MGC for the ones that do look girls, spin it all you want, furries like you will argue for as long as it takes for the otherside to give up
but I'm making it clear now, I wanted a discussion, not an argument and find it a problem that you would try so hard to actually say you like them being more like monsters

I'm not disagreeing about how some of them do become major looking creatures like >>1251583 and >>1251585 are talking about, but whatever
I'm not shitting up a doom thread any further than it will get shit up just because of some furry

so yeah how bout that doom game guys

>>1251597
It's great but you guys need to play it with Brutal Doom.

>>1251595
>calling people furries for liking actual monster girls
>calling MGC's cosplay-shit monster girls
>even MGC has monsters who are literally half-monster
yeah, you can't be helped. you're just spewing shit by the gallon.

>>1251591
>Revenant-tan

We need a better name for her.
...AAAAAAAAAAAAA.
A-ko? Eiko?

>>1251616
Agitated-tan.

>>1251620
skele-tan

>>1251616
>>1251620
>>1251626

http://www.behindthename.com/name/reva

Reva.

>>1251606
okay, I'm sorry
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings because I called you a furry and said something that you don't agree with
stop being so mad and calm down, you're saying stupid shit and want to further something so utterly pointless, you're wasting so much time that you're making cancer patients all around the world angry that you're wasting time by being such a little shit
big deal, you're a furry
people are gay too
total shocker
go to the doctor to get that stick in your ass pulled out and while you're at it, remember to just shut the fuck up and not bother replying to this post
christ sake you're pathetic and you say I can't be helped! ha!

>>1251632
>one that moves
well, revenants do move pretty quick
seems fitting
but I like skele-tan too, just because it's punny

>>1251632
>means "one that moves"

>>1251567
She's pretty cute, but not quite in a sexual way.
More like I'd just want to give her a hug and then we get in a punchout because I must kill all the demons!

>>1251585
>The Thing
Anon wants the flamethrower!

>>1251416

Double check that thing. Triple check if you need. You can't find the problem? Relax a couple of hours and then check again

>>1251645
Are.. Are you making a full punching mod?

>>1251416
Make sure the SNDINFO lump isn't within the sprite markers, that can mess things up (also, make sure graphics are between those markers if you want them to load properly).

I had a problem working on a decorate weapon back when I was younger, damn near had a rage aneurysm until I spotted I hadn't put in the brackets in the decorate code. Felt like a drooling retard after that.

>>1251676
I originally made the wad without any markers because that's how I saw other skin wads organized. I got that error, and I tried adding markers. Still got the error. Cut and pasted everything from the .wad to a new .pk3. Still got the error.

>>1251670
No, I got that from the ZDoom spriting carnivale.

>>1251685
Damn.
I really want to play a mod with good punching.

>>1251689
brutal doom.

sue me.

>>1251689
Well, Action Doom 2 has a lot of punching, and all other kinds of implements for incurring bodily harm on street thugs and punks. There's a bit of combo's for bare hands combat, as well as upgrades, such as brass knuckles.

>>1251685
I am suitably spooked.

Im playing dawn of reality and I got to the part where its just plain demonic
I have no idea what to do now, can anyone help?
spoilered in case no one has got this far

>>1250501
>i
>you kids
Seriously

>>1251692
It's okay but it's a bit hard to get any proper damage in considering how much more aggressive everything is. I like the combos though.

>>1251694
Yeah that's one I enjoy but unfortunately it's not really playable with any other levels besides what's provided.

>>1251698
Go left, kill EVERYTHING there(Ghosts) and those bars should lower.

>>1251697

>>1251706

>Need to find a good set of horns to replace the ones from the barons
>And THEN I need to find other set, way better than the first one, for the cyberdemon

holy shit this is killing me

halp

>>1251567

>>1251706
I wish he had made a full set of that graphic, it would have been perfect for something like Reelism.

>>1251716
>>1251706

If we get to identify the sources that compose that frankensprite, we can

Let's see

>Nazi helmet
>Imp face
>Doberman from Wolf3d

And...where does that tail come from?

>>1251716

Holy shit, she just outdone herself

1/2

>>1251581
>there is literally a girl who is entirely a dragon up to her neck

That sounds more unsettling and boring than it would be if it was hybridized. That sounds like something made for a joke, like Crab Nicholson.

2/2

>>1251703
I did that and bars are still up

>>1251725
yeah, it gets pretty weird. I prefer monster girls to at least have a humanoid torso and face, but sometimes it goes full batshit..

>>1251724
>she

>>1251730

believe it or not.

>>1251730
>this filename
I saw this posted in /v/ and it's really not funny

>>1251725
Onee-chan, am I cute, uguu?

>>1251726
>tumblr

>>1251735
always wanted to see this made for classic doom

>>1251726
>my favorite mapがちょうどGotcha! でも、どこか分からなくなりかけているのでマップ名書いた・・・。みなはん20歳おめでとう。

>>1251736

If you're that much concerned over filenames, here's the original source

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=40137138

>>1251726
I kinda like how the Spider Mastermind is kicking the Cyberdemon in the chest.

>>1251736
Fuck off.

Yesterday I finished downloading the entirety of this

https://archive.org/details/doom-cds

It's 11.3GBs of shovelware. I've yet to check 'em all for duplicates and all that stuff. For those interested in gettin 'em all without clicking each article and downloading 'em individually, try this

http://pastebin.com/T6VuS5cx

Clicking each link should start downloading a zipped file with the entirety of each article, except for 4 of them (for some strange reason), which you will need to download normally.

>Pass the BFG bro.

>>1251735
Read it in his voice.

>>1251742
you could probably pitch the idea to one of the spriters here.

>>1251462
I fucking hated that map because of the fucking chaingunner tower run.

>>1251752

>I wonder if you can rocket jump in Doom.png

>>1251750

>dat helmet

MY SIDES ARE AT DEIMOS RIGHT NOW.

>>1251726
>imp using archvile jumps to hang the decorations
heh

>>1251761
Oh fuck, I didn't even notice that, that's a fucking golden detail!

>>1250937
i was there at Quakecon....man it was intense to watch and awesome with all the fans there

i got a pic from the event from where i was sitting

So, does anyone know if there's ever gonna be an Action Doom III?

>>1251790
I don't think there will
action doom 1 was good, but I didn't like 2 (what I played of it) that much

>>1251790

Probably not, but then again you never really know (especially with the doom community)

>>1251698
I am just about to start playing this
all I want to know, is it a 'horror' mod and does it make use of zdoom features? (crouching, freelook and jumping)
I want to know because I've played mods before which I played through as if it were designed with no jumping and whatever, and missed a lot of shit because you were supposed to jump and crouch

>>1251561
Why a lot of people use Doom-in-Hexen format anyway?

Does project MSX have it's own map pack?

Also, may I please have that compilation of all the rip & tear parodies?

Guys, I was wondering, how would you make the cacodemon look more sinister and/or lugubrious?

>>1251826
It's already pretty terrifying.

>>1251824

>>1251513
>Responding

Why

I've never played DOOM, where do I start?

>>1251831
Hahah! Thanks.

>>1251834
ask yourself the same question, that shit is 3 hours old

>>1251838

by the beginning. Ultimate Doom

>>1251838
the first game, and then the 2nd game

>>1251838

http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/3892051/Ultimate_Doom__Final_Doom__Doom_II

Holly Shit.

>>1251868

Will I survive?

>>1251875
>>1251868

Speaking of demon spitters, is it possible to "slow down" the firing rate" of each cube?

Let's say I want to create my own custom BossBrain, and I want that fucker to spit certain kind of enemies only at (let's say) 20 secs

What should I do?

>>1251370
Toxic Seahorse's stage, to be specific

>>1251694
>that ass
Might have to work out a concept for the cyberdemoness next, should be an interesting challenge to keep me attentive while i finish off a few new bloodyhell 3 gibs.

>>1251906
Thanks bro.

>>1251826
I don't know, but they're pretty adorable already.

>>1251912
see >>1247285

I need some feedback on this

http://i.imgur.com/vS3VfE8.png

and if anyone wants I can humanize it further

>>1251826
You could try cranking up the resolution a bit.

>>1251567
>first line is "A-ah!"

Heh. Subtle.

Is there a Doom 1 wad that's all low level weapons, and demons? Very Episode 1 feeling?

>>1251826
>>1251957
Nice.

I would love a more 'threatening' version of every Doom monster. They look a quite goofy.

>>1251954

reduce her rack juuuust a little bit, and do the same with her arms.

>>1251970
>I would love a more 'threatening' version of every Doom monster. They look a quite goofy.

Stop.

I love them.

I just change the palette with PalPlus.

Also, if you really want to mess with the graphics, just make well animated 3D models that look great.

Oh wait, that's hard.

>>1251969

I am looking for that kind of wad too, because I'm so sick mappers think I am a fucking jedi with the BFG

>>1251971
>>1251954

fuck, I mean, add more volume to her arms, they seem to be way too thin

I say if you start making new weapons and monster sprites, you might as well just make a new game.

>>1251972
But they look goofy. This is a fact.

>>1252001
Sure. But a scarier version of them would be nice.

>>1252000

Well that's fuckin' doom for ya.

They're also low res as hell.

>>1252003
>>1252001
>>1252000

I wouldn't say scarier, actually. >>1251826 here, I still want 'em to look like the Cacos, without adding anything major, like arms so they look like their D64 counterparts, or stuff like that.

Just a revamped look, because almost everyone seems to be in the "ugh i want to add modern effects to this old-ass game and assrape the mechanics of it so it looks more cool; yeah i love to play this retro game with modern shit added to it" parade

I just want something in the middle

>>1252003
someone should put the doom 3 demon models in a program and put their animations in image files so they work with classic doom. that might look like shit though.

>>1252012
I think a couple of mods did that.
DOOMERO also did the Doom 3 conversion that added all the Doom 3 monsters and weapons.

It doesn't look very good.

>>1251971
no the cyberdemon should have a monster rack cause it fits

What are your autoloads?

>>1252015
But this is exactly what you are looking for:
>>1251957

>>1251823
Anyone?

>>1251971
>>1252019

So if the size stays, he should deal with the fact of adding a "jiggling" effect to them to each walking frame. If he can keep up, fine. I'm just doing a suggestion

>>1251823
>>1252031

More complexity in certain actions such as monster triggers, ACS is more friendly to handle with ZDoom in Hexen compared to ZDoom in Doom, and welp, 3d floors

>>1251954
If anything it should be less human and much more muscular.

>>1252028

hi blox

forgot to add (how stupid i am), it should be soft mode compat. It doesn't translate that well

>>1251954
also yeah you should humanize it further cause it kinda looks like a pony right now

>>1252046
more muscular? yes. less human? hell no.

>>1252049
>>1252046
>>1252052


I wouldn't say humanize, make her face look more like those cheap ass 80's terror movies

remember that vampire chick which is often used in jumpscares?

anon makin all the hentai doom shit how's the hell knightess sex gif going?

>>1252052
for the record, i'm working on a more humanized version in the style of the Hellknight and Revenant I did (based somewhat on >>1247285). This other version is neat, but not the same guy.

>>1252063
I fixed up a couple things the other day, gonna do more smoothing out after I get more monster concepts down.

http://i.imgur.com/2QetRKm.gif

>>1252063

Wouldn't an invasion of Succubi result in a utopia?

>>1252062
Do you think you make a version of >>1251567 ?
I want to see what she would look like as a sprite.

...you know
for research.

>>1252070
I already did a version of the Revenant (http://i.imgur.com/aRVlKFR.png))
Probably wouldn't be too hard for me to edit it to look more like the drawing version.

>>1252073
these are horny demon bitches. succubi would probably just kill everybody

>>1250918
the irony in that pic is that /vr/ is the only one that plays videogames

>>1251790
I bugged Scuba Steve alot back in the day when I found out about AD2 like a year after its release or so.
He was thinking about an AD3 with the girl character but he said that he was busy with an AD2 expansion pack. From his respond he mentioned that he plans on adding shotgun. Good news.

But being a dirty bastard and abit of fan I am, I gave small weapon ideas, one was golf club (which is pretty normal) and other being Hooker-esque super sonic BFG. I mean c'mon, you lurk on the streets and all hookers are out to get you? You sit that babe on your lap, shake it and unload the ear screeching scream upon thugs; would be hilarious.
I bothered him about the progress again a month later and he told me ISLE is working on it (who seemed to quit and stop most of his activities in doom community).

I'm really freaky...

>>1251414
The Ultimate Torture and Torment

Where can I get the latest edition of Sperglord Edition?

>>1252047
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/fancycaco.png

but muh fancy non-shitty-doom-palette compatible effekt's

Anyways, there you go sonny.

>>1251569
>>1251570
>>1251575
>>1251576
>>1251580
>>1251594
>>1251616
>>1251620
>>1251626
>>1251632
>>1251645
>>1251714
>>1252070
>>1252075

Oh.
Oh dear.
I, uh, didn't think folks would like it that much.
Th-thanks.

>>1252118

that would quite suffice what me and my pals are looking for. thanks! we would quite use some of the concepts in that caco

>>1251969
Foxtrotdemo

So, let's briefly bring up Doom 3, am I the only one that seriously fucking loved the chainsaw in that game? Once you got it, you practically substitute all your weapons with it, even for the big dangerous monsters, providing you know to spring and strafe at the right times.

I also kind of loved how it would grind and squeal terribly when you sawed against metal.

>>1252128
It was the only weapon that felt like it had any power behind it.

The rest sounded like toys.

>>1252128
It works astoundingly well against the tank boss, if you run right up to him and duck while using it.

I'm working on a level at the moment that would be very linear indeed.

Do you think you could still enjoy a level that is totally linear? There wold be no keys and very little backtracking, it's fighting your way up a tower to battle the bad dude at the top.

Thoughts?

>>1251980
>>1252046
>>1252049
well, can't please everyone with this, but I hope it's an improvement.

http://i.imgur.com/0wEo0WB.png

>>1252145
Well the SMG felt kind of nice. And the chaingun, despite it's lame-ass 60 round mag, was decent as well.

I quite dislike video game rocket launchers overall though. They're supposed to go BOOM.

>>1252150
As long as the fights are interesting and fun. The battle up the mountain in AV 20 was well designed.

>>1252128
Holy shit yes, I even remember after I got it I had a chainsaw duel with the chainsaw zombie because there's only room enough on this planet for ONE badass with a chainsaw.

>>1252145
Agreed, I cant believe how wimpy many of the weapons sounded, like what the fuck.
Luckily, it's almost impossible to make a chainsaw sound wimpy.

>>1252154
I thought the SMG was too dinky personally.
It was such an unsatisfying weapon.

I liked the Chaingun but it didn't feel very powerful.

Something about Doom 3 just didn't click at all.

>>1252150
Make the level linear sure, but not the fights. Make the player move around, not just back walk backwards in a corridor with the SSG or straferunning circles around a monsterblob with the RL all the time, change things up a bit.

>>1252150
Linearity is not necessarily a bad thing.

What matters is the quality of the fights.
Look at Hell Revealed 2's Level 29, that's pretty linear but it's great.
Or Ultimate Torment and Torture's final level where you climb that mountain to get to the final boss(Which is a light pillar for.. Some reason), that climb was sweet.

Basically what I'm saying is that there's no reason for your map to be boring unless you flub the fights.

>>1252158
They don't sound wimpy. They fit perfectly on the weapons.

>>1252159
The SMG sounded kind of exactly like a real suppressed sub-machinegun, with the clicking of the action being audible over the gasses and such. I liked how it was accurate and controllable.

The pistol was just godawful though, and the rockets/plasma were quite disappointing. Only decent "plasma gun" in a game I can remember was the particle rifle in F.E.A.R. It sounded kind of like an old-timey camera flash, but with a weird whirring sound. It instantly turned bad guys into smoking charred skeletons, and it looked like a really bulky FS200 or something, not the glowing blob-firing space ship in Doom 3.

>>1252181
Play it windowed if you want to alt-tab

Why do the graphics flip shit when I tab out? It's like I'm tripping on acid, the entire game turns into a rainbow colored mess.

>>1252145
I kinda agree.

If I could change some things, I'd make the pistol fire as fast as you could click/press the button, and it would make kind of a loud, yet smooth crack, the shotgun would actually be able to score at least a basket-ball sized pattern at 25 meters, instead of having the accuracy of a keyholing AK, it would make a bit more of a boom, but also produce an echo, the SMG I would make fire in bursts of 3, and just slightly faster, it would sound something like the Quake 2 SMG, the chaingun would hold 100 rounds in a magazine instead of just 60, and it would fire 2.5 times as fast (because it fires way too slow to justify six barrels), sound is alright as it is, I guess, but it could use a bit of an echo.

Rocketlauncher would make a loud, yet very dull thud when fired, and then a loud hiss from the rocket, the grenades should be able to be thrown with the help of a button, they were actually very handy, but the problem was that you had to reach for them by scrolling through your inventory, which you sometimes just didn't have the time to do, it should make a loud boom, the explosion bigger, while also throwing shrapnel.
Furthermore, the grenade shouldn't fucking bounce like it does, I've lost count at how many times I've lobbed a grenade at something, only for the cocksucker to bounce at a step of a stair right back at my direction.

Plasma can keep it's sound, but it should fire about twice as fast, to mimic the original plasma gun. BFG is also alright, though I suppose it would be awesome if it bathed the room in green light when fired.

Chainsaw is perfect as it is.

>>1252147
I was too afraid to use it against Thomas Kelly (or, what used to be Thomas Kelly).
Personally, I loved using it against the Tentacle Commando's (one of my favorite enemies), if you sprinted at them as soon as you saw them, with the chainsaw in full rev, and ducked as soon as you made physical contact with him, you could kill him without him scoring a single hit at you.

>>1252152
Why is there a string of orange on a CYBER+DEMON?
It looks only just ever so slightly minorly off.

>>1252173
>FS200
fuck me, one of these. F2000.

>>1252182
>Plasma can keep it's sound
Now this I can't agree with, it sounds a little too cartoony for me.

I also didn't like PSX Doom's plasma sound, and also not Quake 2's Hyperblaster.

Personally I liked Q4's Hyperblaster sound.

I'm not sure why. I also liked Doom's plasma sound a lot.

>>1252190
You know what had a good plasma sound? Eve's arm cannon in WALL-E.

>>1252183

I tried setting it to window, but it just plays the game in fullscreen anyway.

>>1252152

That's too cute. I wouldn't want to shoot it.

Can I hug it?

>>1252152
i like it. coming from the guy who wanted more humanzing the idea of the cyberdemon having a kinda gross face is growing on me cause it fits.

>>1252201
>Doom 95
Found your problem.

It doesn't want you to do anything but focus on Doom.

>>1252201
>2013
>Doom 95
for what reason

>>1252208

How do you recommend to play it?

>>1252201
>doom95

>>1252218
There are any number of source ports to pick from.
If you're a real purist you can use Chocolate doom or PRboom or whatever it's called, they're alright.
More options is Zdoom, more options + opengl is GZDoom.

There are stacks of other ports as well, that's just the ones that pop into mind straight away.

>>1252201

>Windows 7
>Using Doom95

Now this is some low quality bait

step yo game

>>1252216

I don't fuckin' know. I've never played doom before. I just went on thepiratebay and downloaded the one with the more seeders.

>>1252218
unless youre running windows 95 that has aero on it for some reason get a more modern launcher

>>1252173
>The SMG sounded kind of exactly like a real suppressed sub-machinegun
A .22 with a suppressor and subsonic loads, maybe, (though that could explain how it did diddly against monsters). Really, even with a suppressor, a 9x19mm can be pretty loud (not to talk about how loud it would be *indoors*, in a room made out of metal).

Maybe make it do high damage against zombies but low damage against demons?
Or make it particularly likely to make a zombie flinch, to make them stop in their tracks.

>>1252150
Linearity isn't inherently bad, it's just that a lot of modern games are linear in a BAD way.

>>1252190
I kind of liked the pew-pew sound. What if one added a high-pitched, soft bang to it?
Though otherwise, the Quake 3 plasma sounded kind of cool.

Also, really? I liked the high pitch and mechanical whirring of the Hyperblaster, it was probably one of my favorite weapons in Quake 2.

>>1252218
Authentic experience: Chocolate Doom
Enhanced/modern experience: GZDoom

>>1252230
lol, never mind him anon, we're just bantering
>full disclosure: i was using doom95 for the longest time as well before somebody told me about source ports

>>1252201
>Doom95
That brings me back.

Really, if you wanna kick it oldschool, just get Chocolate Doom, Boom, or PRBoom or something, Doom95 is dated as fuck.

>>1252234
I liked the whirring of the Hyperblaster, but it felt like it needed a more powerful sound, especially considering how it tore the Strogg apart.

I guess I just prefer weapons with a more powerful sound overall.
I do like the Hyperblaster's design and the spinning head was kind of neat.

>>1252234
I was referring more to the actual sound than the volume (since no game ever has a realistic volume on weapons..)

>>1252145
I personally liked the shotgun's sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9nOcL0fJ0&feature=player_detailpage#t=360
AVP2 has the best fucking chaingun in any game ever. I really feel like ripping it. I especially like the muzzle flash obscuring what you're shooting at for some reason.

>>1252243
I really just liked how it was so high pitched with it's loud whirring and all, it gave the impression of it firing really fast projectiles at a really fast rate. Really, it just gave the impression of high-velocity.

>>1252256
It was alright, but it needed to be played at a louder volume. Fire it at a wall, and all you heard was *CLANK*

>>1252259
Fuck, was supposed to link to 6:00

>>1252259
Reminds me of the Chaingun/Flechette Gun in Turok Evolution. That thing was fucking beastly.

Any mods that enhance the vanilla experience or feel vanillay?

>>1252289
>enhance

Now there's a subjective word to everybody if I ever heard one. You'll have to specify buddy.

>>1252196

brb, looking for that sound

TOMORROW

ROMERO

SAMSARA

ANYONE ELSE FUCKING COMING?

>Talking about the Doom 3 weapons sounds
>Not a word about the awesome reload sound of the plasma rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsPkDc8JhA, 1:10

10/10 would reload all day

>>1252289

have you played the original games already?

>>1252289
Eriguns.
Perkistan's smooth weapons

Fresh from /v/.

>>1252289

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=31681&p=600537

I have a bunch of these.

>>1252305
I want to fight all of these.

>>1252296
How? Where?

>>1252312
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3987

>>1252292
I forgot to mention a gameplay mod or weapons mod. Something along the lines of Beautiful Doom or even going as far as Complex Doom.
>>1252298
>not having played the original dooms
>>1252301
I've already played to death perkistan's smooth weapons.

>>1252157
Just played it again, I can sort of see what you mean. You're referring to the tight corridors, dodging projectiles as you progressively go up the mountain?
That was hectic.

>>1252163
That's what I was thinking my main hurdle was, the fights. Well that and gun progression, because it's 1 map (and not mega long) I was wondering how to give the player more guns, just an armory at the start?

>>1252164
I just played level 29 again, i'll check UTNT later. 29 is even more linear than I think my level will be but you're right, those were good fights if a tad extreme for my tastes (but it's HR, man).

The fights are the most important though, shitty looking maps can always be forgiven if the fights are fun but never the other way around. I'll do some more guide reading and lurking here on monster usage.

>>1252234
>Linearity isn't inherently bad, it's just that a lot of modern games are linear in a BAD way.

I see what you mean, I've heard this said a few other times and I'd agree I sort of "know it when I see it".
Not asking you to be totally objectively quantifying here but are there any examples that come to mind of "linear done well/done shit".
Mistakes I can sort of just avoid making in the first place.

>>1252323
>>not having played the original dooms

well, I asked since there's this new wave of doomers who haven't even played the original games and they go straight away to the mods. that's all

>>1252323
At the risk of being smacked through the internet by my colleagues here.
Brutal Doom is great fun for a romp. The maker of that also made some pretty good levels.

>>1252330
>brutal doom
notvanilla/10

>>1252289
Beautiful Doom?

>>1252323
>I've already played to death perkistan's smooth weapons.
Well I thought you just wanted vanilla weaponry but enhanced.

ww-Doomnukem

>>1252335
score doom?

>>1252196
>>1252295

Hmm...a PC game got released, I wonder if it contains the sounds

Alright, here's the rough draft of my Cyberdemoness. Obviously still needs a good bit of work, but i got the basic stuff down.

http://i.imgur.com/jiJRtUu.png

>>1252389
Literally the only thing I would say is the leg might need to change a bit, it's the only part that really jumps out to me as being too close to the original cyberdemon.

Or it could just be me, fucking great edit either way though I must say. You guys are funny with this.

>>1252389
omfg its perfect

This isn't even a third cone, but what about this shotgun? I'll give it doom hands and touchup if it's cool.

>>1252389
need to see dat ass

>>1252409
Indeed. This is gonna need some boob and ass-movement action when I do the rest of the frames.

>>1252407

First frame you can still see the hud

>>1252389

>>1252389
>http://i.imgur.com/jiJRtUu.png
gross

>>1252424

you called?

>>1252434
>http://i.4cdn.org/vr/src/1386377032057.gif
grosse

>>1252152
9/10
would strafe dance with her.

>>1249949
Is Nightmare in Quake the same as nightmare in Doom?

>>1252416
Yes as I said, I'll touch it up if it bears promise. But is it a good shotgun?

>>1252173
>Only decent "plasma gun" in a game I can remember was the particle rifle in F.E.A.R
Man, I'll go totally off-topic but Q3A plasma gun is awesome once you get the hang of it. Very hard to master and very hard to counter a good plasma gun user I say. Now let's go on topic.

>>1252186
Looks nice, is that a under-barrel grenade launcher? I hope this inspires someone; pistol start sucks...

>>1252305
dang it... /v/ has some talented fucks.

>>1252341
Youguysarejelly Doom

>>1252389
10/10 would pump my rockets and I hope you are planning to make her a part of some WAD.

>>1252442

Nightmare increases the speed of projectiles in some monsters, and the speed of some monsters as well

Also certain enemies respawn given a period of time.

Not sure if it's the same for Quake

I'm playing Hellbound on UV and I'm stuck on map05. My problem is that once I get back to the little train tracks area and more of the enemies start spawning I'm completely fucked because I'm out of ammo by then even with going back and getting all of that extra ammo.

>>1252471

if you get stuck you should always try to look for the UV-Max runs of each map you get stuck on. You should feel lucky that someone already did a full walkthrough of it.

it's on youtube

>>1252462
>Man, I'll go totally off-topic but Q3A plasma gun is awesome once you get the hang of it.
Well, in original Q3A it had pretty sub-par DPS, but in quake live it's quite a decent gun. Really shines with the quad damage and for pre-emptive spam fire down corridors.
>Looks nice, is that a under-barrel grenade launcher? I hope this inspires someone; pistol start sucks...
No, it's just the grip on the particle rifle. Point being, it looks like and behaves like a practical firearm, even though it's futuristic. I appreciate that.

>>1252164
>Or Ultimate Torment and Torture's final level where you climb that mountain to get to the final boss(Which is a light pillar for.. Some reason), that climb was sweet.

you remembering correctly?
you go down an elevator and then walk into the room with the light pillar boss
i was trying to find the level you were mentioning

>>1252150
>Do you think you could still enjoy a level that is totally linear?
Yes.

Some Serious Sam levels are totally linear and still fun. Just make sure that the combat is always refreshing and challenging.

Someone needs to update pol.wad

They have a new queen.

>>1252502
who?

shitposting tripcode users are not queens, either

>>1252451

Looks pretty good to me, man.

>>1252407
>>1252451
Needs a bit smoother animation.

But yes.
I'm surprised AvP2 resources are so under utilized.
It had some kickass weaponry.

>>1252475
The version I played was scaling a large mountain fighting everything, including all previous bosses.

It's been a long time man, but I know for sure it was UTNT.

What's your guys' favorite doom 2 level? I like either Tricks and Traps or Dead Simple the most

>>1252508
>>1252531
Alright, I'll get working on it tomorrow.

>>1252538
map29 cause i like cave maps

>>1252538
Probably map2. There's nothing like getting the SSG for the first time.

>>1252538
I never actually thought about it before.

I like how Dead Simple is such a no nonsense level.
I also like Living End.
And O of Destruction.

>>1252537
I might play through UTNT again to find the level but I was looking around for about 20 minutes and could not find the one you mean.
Sorry bro :(

>>1252552
>>1252538
O of destruction (also known as "Circle of death") was a pretty good level to me.

It was very hectic and all round great fun.

>>1252538
Suburbs is great, mainly because of the shit ton of enemies they throw at you. It just feels so satisfying mowing down countless numbers of imps with your super shotgun, and the BFG when things get hairy

>>1252462
>Q3A plasma gun

That thing has the best firing sound effect ever

>>1252556
It's the old version

>>1252561
Do people still play Q3A? Or have most people switched to QL?

>>1252565
I'm not even sure. I see CPMA thrown around /v/ every now and then though.

Is anybody else a member on ModDB?

I just got randomly invited out of the blue to join this doom group. Is anybody else in it?

>http://www.moddb.com/groups/doomdb

Odd considering I never comment on anything.

>>1252562
Bummer, I got the newer version I guess.

I was looking forward to finding that mountain section :(
Oh well.

>>1252474
as far as I know both guns have same effective dps 20 per plasma bolt and 10 plasma beats per second which makes 200 dps. in QL counterpart plasma balls have a pre-step for like 20 feet (acts like a hitscan weapon from close quarters) then they reduced down to their normal speed of 2000 ups. Both guns have solid dps but Q3A one is harder to master.

>>1252580
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=14722

This has a screenshot of the mountain level so it might be the version I'm thinking of.
The screenshot with the gravestones

>>1252538
I always loved Map18: The Mill from TNT Evilution never thought about original Doom2, I guess I'll say Level 22: The Catacombs.

>>1252509
That porn actress

>>1252586
Oh THAT, yeah I think I can find that.
I dont think that was the final boss level though.

I'll check it out later but for now I have to run. Thanks for the clarification there though.

>>1252538
Tricks and Traps
Monster Condo

So much memories...

>>1252585
Well higher relative DPS, at least back when I played QL, since both the RG and especially the LG were nerfed from their Q3A originals. I think the hitscan-in-CCQ was a good idea, reducing the dominance of the LG a bit.

>>1252591
not sure who you mean
i'm taking an extended break from that board for my own health

>>1252594
I consider the Alien boss to be an extra boss personally.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I just like good big levels where you have to climb.

Like Deus Vult 2's mountain climb

>>1252601
>Ever having been on the board at all

>>1252576
That guy? Uuugghhhh.

He always uploads other people's mods.

>>1252576
>>1252613
I also noticed he's got a post from /v/ up there as well

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1220101

AAAAND WORD HAS GOT OUT. Good luck to everyone who will attempt to get on the server now.

>>1252601
Tila Tequila

>>1252665
>Telling Doomworld users to use Z&

Shots fired

>>1252665

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3987

>Player/Client limit: 64/64

NOPE. JUST NOPE. THIS WON'T BE GOOD. AT ALL.

RIP Zandronum servers - 2011-2013

>>1252665
16 hours remaining.

>>1252665

>What day: Saturday, December 7th, 2013

>What time: 18:00 UTC
United Kingdom: 19:00
Russia / Moscow: 22:00
Eastern Time (US): 2:00 PM

Okay, who is going to make it?

>>1251160
>>1251201

Post those wads you niggers

>>1252201
>doom95
my nigga

Someone needs to make this happen

>>1252701
Why not?

I already played in a server with 30 persons.

Ok, I will make a map and I have a question:

Considering that ZDoom is more advanced than Zandronum, if I test my map on Zandronum, this is a guarantee that it will works without problems on Zdoom, right?

>>1252780

No.

>>1252780

it depends on what you use, really

>>1252780
Are you planning on using ACS?

>>1252807
No.

>>1252826
I don't think it'll be an issue then.

Does anyone know how to remove weapons from a pack? I don't want to use DoomNukem's sledge or his pistols. Truth be told, I really only like the shotguns. But I do like to out box pinkies. And having the sledgehammer pop up is annoying.

>>1251886
Putting a monster spawner in an out of bounds area, it can simulate a slower spawning time. Take the lost soul as a spawning point meant for this purpose.

Need to play TNT & Plutonia for the first time, should I play with Brutal Doom or vanilla?

What happens if you combine OBLIGE generated maps with R667 shit and a whole lot of HD textures and uncompressed MP3s? You get a 570MB behemoth of a shitty mod named Onslaught: The Cult Within.

Here's a sample of this QUALITY work.

>>1252915

vanilla first

>>1252915
You're asking to get rekt if you play those with rbutl dum