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you guys playing OT?

>>1216014
No, the real one.

securq right? does aurera have a guild too? its a pvp server, we could kill some noobz

>>1216573
>we could kill some noobz

>>1216627
weredildo pls

>>1216573
Aurera doesn't have a guild. I'm not sure exactly who is active there. Some of us on Secura have alts, there, but basically all we're doing is letting the chars offline train forever until we have good enough skills to just power level.
As far as PKing, it's a joke. Standard PVP worlds make player killing absolutely worthless. Even on the hardcore PVP worlds, there is no point in player killing, since they have removed the experience gain from kills.

>>1216689
why? you get loot

>>1216980
You get shitty loot that would be obtained faster not killing people. And you don't get some shitty skull that makes you a walking target to every wanna-be bounty hunter.

>>1216661
>mfw I didn't realised than that was a gif until now
>mfw I invented that joke

>>1216689
>they have removed the experience gain from kills.
What? Why...

Finally. The weekend. It has arrived.

>>1216014
Anyone ever thought about hosting one?

It's easy as shit.

>>1219329
how?

>>1220136
Basically, you run a program on your computer, and for as long as it is running, people can play Tibia by connecting to your computer through your IP.

>>1220136
http://www.opentibiaserver.com/pleb/downloads/lostboy.exe

>>1221747
seems legit

What's the best browser to use the Flash client on?

Chrome gives me this fucking annoying "Press F11 to exit fullscreen" message whenever my mouse nears the top edge of the screen.

>>1222848
I don't use the flash client to play, but I haven't had any issues with firefox whenever I feel like popping in to chat away from home.

>>1222969
Gonna see if I can get firefox to work well with this game. Really need the screen space and no pop ups, ever.

I've used the C++ client since forever, but I just can't get over how incredibly awesome the keyboard support is on the Flash client. The modality is the best feature. You can set it up so that EVERYTHING can be done with your keyboard; just press Tab to turn chat off and you get WASD navigation, potions and spells in the nearby clusters, change equipment easily, open backpack, change battle modes, use rope and shovel, all you can possibly need, within your left hand's reach and 1 key press away. Your left hand can freely focus on targetting and clicking and maybe even more actions if your mouse has extra buttons.

I simply cannot go back. I hate Flash as much as the next guy, but Tibia's manual has stated that these features "cannot" be implemented in C++ client, so yeah...

>>1223106
Flash client is the main reason I came back to this game after 8 years. It's just so much better and more convenient.

>>1223446
There are some regressions in relation to the C++ client. For one, you can't see skills percentage; only a single bar can be displayed. Hotkey sets could use some refinement, but it's an improvement over nothing.

There's also the fact it's a Flash client in 2013. That means you lose your settings and have to redownload game if you clear your cache. It's also inherently non-portable because Flash is dead and already unsupported on Linux and mobile devices.

They should have implemented it in HTML5 or even in C# .NET instead.

>>1213803
Kaz is so awesome...

Woah, didn't know there was a Tibia thread on 4chan.

>>1223106
You should consider that the native Tibia client has been developed by multiple different persons over a span of more than a decade. While it might be true that in theory, everything would be possible to implement given enough time, the sheer effort required to work around all the ugly hacks and implementation details has prompted product management to mainly approve development of Flash client features, since that one has a much better architecture and things get done much faster. Guess that's why the Flash client is so much more usable today than the standalone client.

>>1223651
Things like HTML5 Canvas, WebGL and related specs haven't been around or only just surfaced by the time Flash client development started.

best way to make money? i just never seem to have enough to buy good equips

>>1225836
Sell premium scrolls.

Since Stealth Rings are cheap as fuck, what are the best monsters that do not see invisibility for druid to hunt?

>>1225961
Are you free account or premium?
>>1225836
If you don't mind investing real-life money, premium scrolls.
You'll need to meet a ridiculous number of requirements if you pay by credit/paypal. But if you buy through a reseller, you only have to be premium.
If you want to get money in-game, what is your voc/level? That'll narrow down the options.

>>1226603
i do mind investing rl money, yeah. seems like that's the answer to everything in this game these days

im a knight in his 30s, skills leave a lot to be desired since I don't train often. i guess i fall in the "so, you're not a noob anymore" 60/60 range.

>>1226613
Are you pacc or facc? Forgot to ask you too. My bad.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Client#Changes

>You can import/export your customised options in an xml file

How do I do this? I spent quite some time customizing my hotkeys and I'd be pretty mad if they get lost forever due to Flash's idiotic behavior of deleting data when you clear history/cache.

>>1226623
free player... but i might just buy premium one of these days if i decide to stick around

so, tell me about legitimate ways to build myself up as a premium player as well, please.

i just don't want to take the easy way out and pay for it, especially for another player to enjoy PA, especially for what, 1kk? my money is worth a lot more than that.

>>1226625
If you log into your account on the website, you will see a section below your character list titled "Migration Tool" you can use that to import your settings to the game server.

>>1226634
If you're playing on Secura with the rest of us, power abuse is pretty much something you don't run into. Maybe a high level botter will set himself up in a lower level spawn he can profit at, but that's about it. And not to push the premium scroll bit, but they are the highest gp:cash ratio you'll find. Nowhere else are you going to get 1,2 million GP for 8 euros.

free account, 30s, 60/60, assuming you have decent equipment, I would say Mintwallin. Especially if you have the post missions completed and can use the mailbox and also have an obsidian knife. 20k wouldn't be hard to make there in a couple to a few hours of lootbagging and skinning.
If not Mintwallin, there is also the Senja Mino spawn (dark helmet quest, Alawar's Vault quest areas). Not as good as Mintwallin, but still nice. No need for postman here, throw your lootbag into the vault portal and kick it to the nearest mailbox and you're clear.
Outlaw camp is another decent area. Bandits, Smugglers, Wild Warriors, a small Mino encampment. 1-2 hunters also if they get lured of if you walk past a certain bridge.
Shadowthorn can be great money if the Thornfire world change isn't active. Firestarters are almost impossible to profit on. Also hard to profit if there are people botting.
The outside areas of Orc Fort are good too. But only if you can solo an orc leader/zerker easily. Also not great if there are botters.
Maybe the dwarf mines too, but they tend to be bot-central.
The amazon camp might also be good, but again, it's usually botsville.

That's all I can think of for a free account player off the top of my head.

>>1226679
For a premium player, there are too many places to properly list, but I'll name a few.

I'm told some floors in the ankrahmun tombs are great money, but I've never actually hunted in one personally. So I can't comment.
In Port Hope, if you join the Paw and Fur society, they send you on missions to kill crocodiles, tarantulas, carniphilas, and mammoths for your level. Other tasks aren't worth taking. After a certain amount, you get to kill a boss variation which have a very high chance to drop good loot. Time rings, knight sets, spider silks, terra set items, etc. Plus on top of that, you get bonus exp just for finishing a task.
I don't know if you can handle them, but after doing some quests in Liberty Bay, you gain access to the pirate spawns on Nargor. They can be good money if you hunt them properly.
Liberty bay also has a cave filled with cult novices and witches which can be great profit/exp if you can kill them fast.
Yalahar is always a good bet. The alchemist quarter has mutated humans, which drop like 100gp each and their skin which is worth 50 gp to Yasir. It's almost impossible not to profit here. I think my first time trying the spawn out, I came back with like 6k gp and 40~50 skins in an hour or so.
The trade quarter is like the outlaw camp, only better. Assassins, hunters, etc on the highest floors, but with decent equipment they're easy peezy.
Foreign quarter is similar to the trade quarter/outlaw camp, except it is split into sections. 1 part is like a mini-orc fort. 1 part is like a mini-mintwallin. 1 part is like a mini-shadowthorn (underground = dragons, hydras, etc). I think there is even a section with pirates. The areas inbetween those sections are filled with outlaw style mobs. Nomads, crazed beggars, wild warriors, et c.
Magicians quarter might be good if you hunt in the parts with dark apprentices and cult novices. Just watch out for areas with gozzlers, necromancers, infernalists, et c. You will get #rekt.

All I can think of atm.

>>1226679
This is what it says. Does that mean my settings are on the cloud? If I log into my account from another computer, will they be applied to the client? If so, that's great.

I was hoping to get a XML file myself. It's a machine processable format and I wanted to create a little utility to manage my hotkeys for me.

I want general shortcuts such as chat mode toggle, change chase & battle modes, character and map navigation, etc. to be universal for every character. Consistency matters. Currently, if I change something, it only applies to that set; I'll have to manually change all other sets myself manually.

I wanted to create a utility that would allow me to stack hotkey sets. For example, I'd be able to create a "preset" with all my global hotkeys, and stack another set of hotkeys for each vocation on top of them. The vocation hotkeys can contain anything but will probably contain only action bar settings. They will "inherit" all the settings of the preset, but can be manually overridden. This way it'll be incredibly easy to change, adapt, maintain and experiment with your keyboard settings.

Honestly, the client should do this. It should be pretty simple to implement, especially in AS3. Maybe I should take this to Cipsoft themselves, somehow.

This is one of the refinements I was talking about in >>1223651, the other being the elimination of the stupid limit on the number of hotkey sets. 8 is just not enough. I want as many as I have memory for, thanks. Ideally, one for every character.

>>1226723
I'm not exactly sure how the web client works; but there should be 960 possible hotkeys as opposed to the 36 on the standard client. However, I do not know how many actions can be assigned within those 960 possibilities. The web client hotkeys are, sorry to say, per client and not per character. So whatever you assign for one character will be what you have for another.

I don't know why the VIP list, mini-map, and options aren't saved to the server by default, with hotkeys/controls being saved per character as opposed to per account/client. It seems like it would be the logical choice.

I tried to use the web client to export/import data so I knew exactly how everything worked, but the thing keeps locking up and crashing on me.
Really wish the flash client weren't such shit on Linux. Also really wish you could assign Use/Open and Attack/Talk to the same button (right click). That is one functionality I would miss from the standalone client's classic feature.

>>1226845
>the web client hotkeys are, sorry to say, per client and not per character

Yes, but the Flash client has the notion of hotkey sets, allowing you to keep up to 8 completely custom keyboard mappings and switch between them at any time using the selector at the bottom of the screen and to the right of the chat input field. That's where the 960 number comes from, it's the number of mappable actions in each set times 8; the actual number of usable hotkeys at any given time is a lot lower.

The problem isn't so much the number of hotkeys; I believe I have a lot more space than I actually need. The thing is that the mappings are entirely separate, and keeping them consistent is a needless exercise for my patience and memory.

>really wish you could assign Use/Open and Attack/Talk to the same button

You can. That's pretty much what the smart click does. You can assign it to any mouse button you want in the options.

>really wish the flash client weren't such shit on Linux

Unfortunately, Flash does not really support Linux anymore. The only way to get updated, working cross-platform versions of Flash is through Google Chrome, specifically. Might be worth a try.

>>1226709
>>1226679

thanks for all the info, i saved it and i'll give it a try

this alchemist quarter does seem like a great place to make money

15:59 You lose 214 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
15:59 You lose 105 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
15:59 You healed yourself for 64 hitpoints.
15:59 Using one of 3 health potions...
15:59 You healed yourself for 174 hitpoints.
15:59 You lose 147 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
15:59 Using one of 2 health potions...
15:59 You healed yourself for 135 hitpoints.
15:59 You lose 146 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
15:59 Using the last health potion...
15:59 You lose 209 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
15:59 Using the last health potion...
15:59 You healed yourself for 138 hitpoints.
16:00 You lose 144 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
16:00 You healed yourself for 62 hitpoints.
16:00 You healed yourself for 70 hitpoints.
16:00 You lose 162 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
16:00 You healed yourself for 67 hitpoints.
16:00 A water elemental gained 60 experience points.
16:00 You lose 136 hitpoints due to an attack by a water elemental.
16:00 You are dead.

My body was not ready.

>>1227982
Try getting maximum #rekt by a hellspawn.

>>1228063
I would have gotten away if I wasn't retarded.
Or if I had brought more than 5 hp pots.
That's what makes it so fucking lame.

Funny thing though: when I got back to my corpse I found it untouched except a doll was placed on top of it.

hope you like Brazilians, Egyptians and other filthy nationalities

>>1227982
>a water elemental gained 60 experience points

>>1226603
I'm premium.

I've heard demon skeletons are good, but is there a spot where there is tons of them?

>>1228078
Drefia is really the only place I can think of. There are a few on the ground floor along with stalkers, ghouls, skeletons, and sandcrawlers. You can use levitate to get up some buildings that have more demon skeletons on them. Especially the western-most building. It has tons of them along with ghosts.
You can also go down the stairs in one of the buildings to find more. Just don't go too far down or you find necromancers.
Ghouls and stalkers can see invisible iirc. But I don't think ghosts can.

>>1228067
Yeah dude, you should carry like 50-100 pots on you. It's quite taxing on one's cap though.

Try carrying floor(level / 10) * 10 + 10 potions. If you're level 35, you'd carry 40 pots. If you're level 40, you'd carry 50.

>>1228089
Ok, thanks. Any other good places for invisibility hunting?

>>1228109
I'd also like to know as well. Any monsters that give lots of experience or money and can't see invisible?

Should be simple to pop a stealth ring and just wreck shit. Zero potion waste.

>>1228112
>>1228109
Demon Skeletons are really the only option. You could try popping into Cyclopolis or something though I guess. Pretty sure none of the cyclops can see invisible.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Allusions

>tfw your premium time is counting
>tfw you can't play due to studies

At least I have offline training so it's not a complete waste

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tibia

For those who want to sell premium scrolls, here are the requirements needed for transferring scrolls bought from resellers:

http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=2459

Through which means can one improve one's character's passive HP and mana regeneration?

I know about the pair of Soft Boots but I recently found out about this:

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Terran_Rainbow_Shield

>It speeds up your regeneration for 15 minutes (8 manapoints and 2 hitpoints every 6 seconds; 300 HP and 1200 MP in total)

You can apparently simply re-enchant it with a gem after it runs out for another 15 minutes of improved regeneration. I wonder if it would stack with the effect of one's Soft Boots.

Any other items that boost regeneration?

>>1232809
Yes, it will stack with the effect of soft boots. All regenerative effects will stack with others. There really aren't many other items. But I'll list what I can think of:

Obviously, food regenerates HP/MP.
Blessed steak and rotworm stew are food that will completely restore your MP and HP respectively, but can only be created during a special event.
There are life rings and rings of healing, LR regenarating less than a ROH.
Softboots.
Terran Rainbow Shield


Of the items above, soft boots are the most cost-effective. Life rings regenerate less than rings of healing but are more cost-effective. I'm not sure exactly how cost effective the terran shield is. But it seems to be about the same as a life ring.

>>1228087

>floor(level / 10) * 10 + 10

15 minutes to wild horse spawn. Hope this shit works.

>Knight Brave: At last we meet face-to-face!
>Doctor Darkness: Too late, puny knight. You can't stop my master plan anymore!
>1st Knave: Watch out! It's a trap!
>Knight Brave: Don't quail, my faithful follower! We have mastered worse obstacles to get here!
>Doctor Darkness: Haha! You may not fear for your own life, but how about hers!?
>2nd Knave: Oh no! Look! It's Princess Buttercup! He's holding her hostage!
>Doctor Darkness: Indeed I do! Wouldn't it be a pity for such a beautiful young lady to die so tragically?
>Princess Buttercup: Don't care about me! Save the world!
>Doctor Darkness: Keep quiet! Else your hair will make the acquaintance of these scissors!
>All: You're such a monster!
>Doctor Darkness: Hahaha! Now drop your weapons or else...
>1st Knave: Never!
>2nd Knave: But what about the princess?
>Knight Brave: Trust me, my loyal minions. Drop your weapons.
>Doctor Darkness: At last! The brave Knight Brave in my hands! Your death is near!
>Knight Brave: Not that fast, Doctor Dumbness!
>Doctor Darkness: How dare you? Are you mad? I hold the princess hostage and you drop your weapons. You're all lost!
>Knight Brave: I don't think so, dear doctor!
>1st Knave: What's this? Behind the doctor?
>2nd Knave: Look! It's Lucky, the wonder dog!
>Lucky: Woof! Woof!
>Doctor Darkness: Noooooo!
>Knight Brave: Get him, boy!
>Lucky: Grrr!
>Doctor Darkness: Ahhhhhh!
>All: Hooray!
>Knight Brave: Lucky, once again you saved the day!
>Lucky: Woof!

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Mapper?coords=126.103-125.85-7-3-1-1&mark1=126.103-125.84-7-20&mark2=126.117-125.99-8-20&mark3=126.120-125.100-9-20&mark4=126.113-125.138-10-19&mark5=126.105-125.137-9-20&mark6=126.94-125.113-10-20&mark7=126.96-125.117-11-19&mark8=126.101-125.102-10-1

Do you have to download? How big is the file?

Noob here. At Level 9 with over 2k Gold, Knight, Magera Server and now at Venore. Now what?

>>1236652
You can play using the Flash client, which is much better than the standalone client.

>>1236731
Post your name so that I can include you in your /vr/ player list.

Try hunting around in the Venore swamps. It's pretty much a beginner area where you can gather some gold and creature products to sell.

There's also Venore daily tasks, which you can do to get some easy money to buy equipment.

>>1236804
Kikuchio's the name

Will probably do the quest for the Light Shovel, then probably wander around the Swamps. Heard Rotworms make good money (hopefully I can deal with them now since they were a pain in Rookgaard) --- if I could find them.

Also, should I continue sticking to my Jagged Sword, or should I start gaining Fist/other melee weapons to get by?

>>1236825
Always stick to one skill. Switching skill means you lose a lot of training time.

Rotworms are great for grinding money and experience. You can deal with rotworms just fine. Don't let more than 2 hit you though, especially the carrion worms. They'll break your shielding and things can get ugly pretty quickly.

Ultimate Booze is one great quest. More capacity is always good. Carry potions at all times for emergencies.

Don't be afraid to look up stuff in the wiki.

>forgetting to set your characters to train offline
>2013
>ISHYGDDT

>>1236731
Yo, if at some point you wish to engage in PvP, join us in Aurera. It's the American Open-PvP preview game world; 2x experience and skills.

Anyone feel like starting Hardcore PvP? Inferna is probably the best server right? Dolera seems impossible to play on.

>>1236459
wat

>>1238541
It's a book from the game.

Is everyone in game? Is that why these threads are a little slow

>>1240415
I have final this couple weeks. I'm good so I'll probably be able to get some play time.

Just not in the next couple days.

>>1240571
>I have final

I mean finals.

I see that there are UO and Tibia threads on /vr/. How does one compare to another? I've heard they're similar in many aspects and that Tibia was greatly inspired by Ultima

So I've started playing this a while ago, and I don't know what to level anymore.

Knight pissed me off. Fuck that, so I need to stand still and train for 59 days in order to get remotely useful skill? What's the point of this class, it takes too fucking long! Also 237 days of offline training, that's a joke. And there's not even a convenient way to train weapon skills. Sorcerer can just stand still, eat and make runes, or spend tons of gold and buy mana potions. Knight doesn't have any shortcut, and organizing enemies to train is pain in the ass, especially on optional pvp server, where any asshole can just come and kill my monk and stuff. Fuck, I'm mad, knight sucks. Does all that training even pay off? Other calculator showed that at lvl 400 and 120 skill I'll get max hit of ONLY 560. It's like, lvl 40 sorcerer does more with sudden death rune...

How's paladin? Is it same bullshit? I noticed nobody plays it in /vr/ guild.

And I'm not really interested in sorcerer or druid because their fucking low health and capacity. Fuck being one hit killed by everything, and not being able to carry around anything more than rope and shovel.

Damn it, I don't know which class should I level.

>>1241446
You don't need a skill of 100. Nope. No, no no.

A skill of 50-60 will probably suffice for lower levels. With good equipment you can take the usual mobs and also things like minotaur guards and cyclopses.

I have skill 81 on my level 33 knight. I had trained it to ~50 years ago, and through offline training I got it to 81.

The training pays off. I was hitting about 100 on dragons just yesterday. High level knights with good skills and equipment are known for pretty much snubbing the monsters that once did a ton of damage to him. You can spot them running around the spawn fast 1 hit killing everything and receiving next to no damage. Needless to say, it's a lot easier if you have a premium account.

>ONLY 560

He'll kill a Dragon in like 2 hits.

>paladin

Paladins are pretty much a ranged knight. Distance skills trains much faster than melee skills and ranged weapons have great attack values and are cheap. Since you're a ranged fighter, you avoid a ton of damage you'd otherwise receive as a knight and don't use as much mana as mages. Result is we hit hard, waste less and hunt stronger monsters earlier. You're not as frail as sorcerers but you also don't have access to as many spells, but when you're hitting over 200 using royal spears, you can end the enemy resistance pretty quickly.

The thing is you're limited to a single target. Mages can destroy entire spawns by using an area of effect spell or rune, but paladins are pretty much limited to attacking a single creature or using runes, which is less effective since their magic level is lower. If you get swarmed, you're likely to either waste a lot of supplies or die.

>nobody plays it

I play all vocations. Name's Zelus the Swift. Azebu plays it as well but I haven't seen him around in a while.

>mages
>one hit killed by everything

Magic shield gives you more health than knights have. I soloed my first dragon lord at level 42 the other day with nothing but magic shield, potions, rod and ice strike.

>>1241446
>What's the point of this class, it takes too fucking long!

The point is to make money, absorb damage, deal high damage, kill quickly at next to no cost and loot monsters for as long as your capacity allows.

If you have the right stats and pick the right spawn, you will only use potions during emergencies where you get swarmed by more than 2 monsters, and that is negligible waste that can even be eliminated with careful advancement through a cave.

You don't need to worry about ammo or runes. Potions are the only consumable items you will carry, along perhaps with a few rings and amulets. Purchasing a weapon is a fixed cost; a one time payment. You can use it to kill as many monsters as you want. The only cost you will surely incur every hunt is the cost of potions, but since you can hunt to your heart's content (or until your potion supplies last) you will probably come back with a backpack filled to the brim with gold and sellable items, and that's without a lootbag. Many times I've left gold coins in the ground because I didn't have enough cap to pick even a single coin up. In order to profit as a knight, one should pick a spawn where you can easily kill the monsters without taking any damage so as to eliminate the potion cost. Rotworms are the standard safe choice, but I like tarantulas myself.

Knights have access to incredible armors and equipment; this makes them especially suited to blocking monsters. To block a monster is to stand between it and your party, so that it attacks you instead of them. Your shooters and mages can then deal damage in peace. Knights have spells tailored for this purpose: challenge can bring a monster's attention back to you if it changes target to one of your friends.

It is said that since knights brave the monster up close and personal, they take all of the loot, but any kind of arrangement can be made. I've heard about people paying for a knight's supplies in exchange for a part of the loot.

>>1241532
Ok, so at what level of a sorcerer/druid I could safely explore everything in this game without the fear of dying? 500? And can I solo hard stuff like bosses?

>>1241704
I don't really have an answer to the first question. It depends on your level, skill, the monsters you're expecting to face and the amount of preparation you've done.

You're not going to survive an encounter with a monster that can combo 1k damage if you have less than 1k mana. Hell, even if you had that amount of mana, you'd probably not be able to bring your mana reserves back up fast enough with regular mana potions.

Bosses follow the exact same logic. You can kill certain bosses quite easily if you use the correct strategy. Some bosses are just stronger versions of the regular monsters, others are entirely different monsters on their own right. It's harder for mages to solo without a blocker.

I don't think exploring will ever be free of risks; given the right situation even low level monsters can kill high level knights.

I used to be very afraid of exploring and taking risks, but I've been getting more confident and skillful lately. The best option is not to be surprised and to have a strategy for the monsters you will be facing. However, even when surprised, you can still fight your way out. Even if it taxes your supplies, it's better than dying.

As a mage, the highest priority is to keep your HP green. That puts you out of immediate danger; you will probably not die after the next attack. Next in the list is to cast mana shield; that will probably triplicate your life bar, giving you more room to think and more time to react. While protected by mana shield you can carefully manage your mana reserves by using potions while you either attack using runes (area of effect for best results) or run towards the next floor.

I used to have this mindset where I'd hunt rotworms until I was at a good level with good amount of money and only then would I go exploring. Trust me, that gets boring quickly. I sought variety in other vocations and became better at the game and at handling pressure situations because of that (and a few stupid deaths too).

>>1241704
It depends on whether you're looking to explore and hunt or simply explore and survive. Magic shield and a quick hand will save you in most cases. But you need to be aware of what to expect when exploring an area. While doing the crusader helmet quest the other day, I discovered a hole that was not there the last time I played. I went down to be comboed for 840~ damage by a Lost Husher and a Lost Basher. No magic shield and I would have been done. But with magic shield and already having my rope prepared, I was only taken down to 150~ or so HP. Close to death. But it gave me time to rope myself back up, heal, and learn to never go down that hole again until I know I can handle a potential 800 damage per turn.

Surviving is easy. Being able to hunt in different areas is just dependent on your skill. You can hunt dragons on a level 6 paladin without having to worry about dying. Or hunt dragon lords or giant spiders on level 28 druid/sorc. 1 at a time, of course. But if familiar enough with the game mechanics, it isn't that difficult to manipulate mobs to your advantage. You aren't going to profit. At all. Waste is astronomical. But it is possible.

To the second question, so far in my time back, I have had 3 players offer to block for my druid. One of them was a knight, as expected. But the other two? A sorcerer and a druid respectively.
The druid was level 291 and blocking wyrms and behemoths for me. There were times where he had 5 wyrms on him. And there were times where he had 5 behemoths on him. Not once did he use magic shield. Just a constant spam of exura gran/exura vita. The sorcerer was 260-something and blocking 2-5 war golems for me at once. Again, no magic shield and a constant spam of exura gran/exura vita.
That should give you a rough idea of when you can explore everything without fear of dying. Being able to just survive though is going to be a much lower level.

Zelus. I got the wild horse mount! There are less people checking for them now. Took 19 oats! I don't know if it's true, but someone said hitting them to low HP makes them easier to tame.

>>1243616
So the world change is still active? Will it continue to be active until people chase the horses back to the stable?

>>1243805
I don't know, but I've got horses for all my 5 characters, so catch them while it's still easy.

They spawn every 3 hours starting from server save at 10:10 AM CET. So 13:10, 16:10 and so on. Three of them each time.

At one time it took 147 oats to tame it! Damn gluttonous horse, must be too fat to run now.

>>1242929
>>1241757
So the knight is safe, boring and mundane, but mage is thrilling, exciting and dangerous?

Oh man, I can't decide now. Maybe paladin, because it's the mix of the two? But I've heard nobody likes to take paladins to group hunts, because it's better to take druid instead.

>>1244424
Druids are popular because they are master healers. They can heal their blocker with exura sio. They can cast mass healing, which will heal everyone in range, including themselves and summons. Their party spell will heal players in the group for 20 hitpoints per 2 seconds.

>>1244414
>147 oats
>mfw

Does the trick of taming them when they're weak work?

>use 120+ oats on red hp wild horse
>fail to tame it

I mad.

>>1244746
>wasting all your money on cosmetic items

stay maximum mad

>>1245279
They aren't cosmetic. +10 levels of speed, yo.

>>1244424
You just need to figure out what playstyle you prefer. With the more recent bows/ammunition, most paladins don't even hunt with shields anymore. And the mages come at a serious cost if you want them to be "thrilling, exciting, and dangerous" I spent about 10k per level from 34-48 and then it was about 15k from 49-54 the it spiked to about 50-60k per level from there to 60 or so, because I was hunting using only AOE runes and SDs with blockers. From 61-70 it was a slower pace and back down to about 15-20k per level. And that isn't counting the 700k I spent on soft boots to save myself money in the long-run. Without them, I would probably be spending 1.5x to 2x the amount of money per level.

A knight isn't going to spend shit per level. All of your equipment is a one-time only investment. Once you have it, it's there. Mages and paladins have to restock after every hunt. I have to max out my cap with mana potions (about 350 of them atm) per 1-2 hour hunt. A paladin would have to max out cap with spears or ammunition each hunt. And you will almost never profit if you are specifically hunting for fast levels or hunting exciting mobs. Not until higher levels at least.
Knights don't need so many potions or supplies. They are basically a free vocation. You will almost never come back without profiting.

It isn't uncommon for people to make a knight and collect a few million gold and then make one of the other vocations to power through levels.

>>1245365
The cost of a paladin's ammunition varies quite a lot as well. Spears and royal spears are relatively cheap and it is trivial to refill them each hunt where you can come back with more than 2k gold in your backpack.

Royal spears are the most cost-effective tool to hunt with, as they have great attack value and a satisfactory break rate. Enchanted spears are superior in terms of weight, range, attack and break rate but are significantly more expensive.

One can also hunt with throwing stars, but I don't think they're worth it. Even if you bring a stack of 100, you'll probably spend about the same time hunting as you would with royal spears due to it's higher break rate. Stars are more expensive and pack less of a punch, too. Assassin stars are probably worth it due to their absurd attack value.

I've never profited hunting with a crossbow and bolts. Not even once. At 400 gold per stack, bolts simply don't last long enough unless you're hunting big game. Though, at that point, elemental arrows might have a better damage/gold spent ratio due to their elemental advantage and higher accuracy.

I hear the knight/sorcerer duo is quite popular on hardcore PvP worlds. Knights are at a severe disasvantage in PvP situations, so the knight is used to make some money for the main mage character so that they can level.

where is azebu

we summon thee

>>1245994
I think his Internet's been out. His PA ran out as well.

>>1245365
>>1245956
Thank you, thank is very informative post. I'll take your suggestion and stick with a knight for now.

Now I just need to figure out a good training spot.

>>1246358
It's been a long time since I trained the hard way. I remember I used to go with a friend to some remote area south east of Thais, where there was a cave with a couple swamp trolls. We'd take all our equipment off and attack each other with knives and protect ourselves with wooden shields while the monsters attacked us. At some point my friend started a druid but by the time he was able to summon monks I'd already quit the game.

Some of my friends and family are former players; I've spotted them training on slimes in port hope during some of my visits. I never mastered the art myself, but it's great since slimes multiply and provide you with a never-ending stream of monsters to train with.

>>1246540
I've heard you can't train with other players anymore. Is that true?

>>1246709
That's right. I guess too many people fell into the PK party trap. On Optional PvP, you can't attack summons either.

>>1245994
hello it is I Azebu
state you're business

>>1245994
Why helo it is i azbue
state you're busnisess

>>1246956
>implications

>>1247006

>>1247018
Oh, you're really back!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JQxH77NWEQ

>not listening to this while playing Tibia

>>1247027
Nah, I just monitor these threads. Don't really have enough time to play now.

>>1246540
It depends on which server you will be playing. I think the largest group of us is on Secura. If you are free account, I can show you to a great secluded training location that would easily last you until 60/60 if not more. If you're on a normal or hardcore pvp server, you'll just have to find other players to train with. If you're premium, offline training yo.

>>1247032
swedes who played too long play this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7EQaNlsEFs

Where is everyone? Literally nobody in Yotsubas guild chat.

>>1249176
2busy4u

bump

>>1248989

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y

>implying I have the slightest clue what this faggot is saying

>>1249176
>>1249862
3busy5u
Other than popping in to reset my character's offline training I haven't had the chance to do shit. Should have a lot more time starting Monday though. Then it's straight to level 100 for me.

So if I block on a hunt as a knight, I get all the loot? Do I expect druid to always heal me, or I need to bring my own healing pots and use them all the time?

What are the common rules of group hunts?

>>1253551
There really aren't any set rules for blocking. You just have to figure out what will be best for the situation.

Typically, if you are blocking so a mage can power level, you aren't going to be attacking anything, you will get 100% of the loot, and you will be healing yourself. Sometimes the mage may pay for your supplies before-hand.
If both of you are attacking and the mage is healing you, generally you will split the loot 50/50 since this setup tends to be for maximized profit over experience.
When blocking for a group of 2+ players, it usually means a group hunt, where all of you are splitting the loot equally or putting it toward some specific fund. Like more supplies or equipment upgrades for better hunts.

Regardless, you'll always want your own healing supplies. Shit happens and sorcerers can't heal others without runes.

>>1253551
You should carry potions with you at all times. A druid's sio will help you save money on healing supplies. It is not a replacement for them.

>log in
>nobody online
>nobody in guild chat
>set my characters to train offline
>log off

I don't wanna play alone ;_;

I just got back into tibia after being away for about 8 years.

Are there any active guilds on open pvp servers? I just wanna play with some bro's that aren't pl or br

Is there anyone here who's at least level 100+?
I've just been offline skilling for over a month because the leading guild on my server is hunting me without any reason to and I can't do shit.

I might transfer over to secura if there's anyone to play with.

>>1255002

Kentaro Sakata will probably reach level 100 soon. See >>1253204.

>>1254919
There's probably a ton. If there aren't any, maybe try making one.

>>1255214
What I meant to say was, are there any active vr guilds on open pvp servers?

>>1256129
I don't think so. Tibia isn't exactly a popular choice in game. Even on Secura we're only marginally active and right now I don't think anyone is really playing much thanks to finals.

I'm sure there are a few players here and there that identify with 4chan in general, but not sure about anyone from /vr/ specifically. Yotsubas on Secura is the only guild I know of related to /vr/ letalone 4chan.

>>1256173
Ah I see, that's too bad. I have tried playing on optional pvp servers but it takes away the fun of the game for me. One of the biggest reasons I like tibia so much is the excitement, you could be killed at any moment or kill someone else, it is what makes the game thrilling for me. So I couldn't see myself investing time in a character on an optional pvp server

Is this game pay2win?

>>1256463
It's freemium - free to play but with premium account that gives you access to some additional features and locations. Additionally, you can legally sell premium subscription to other players for in-game gold (like Pilot's License in EVE Online). But that's about it, there is no cash shop, and gold from selling Premium Scrolls is nice boost, but wouldn't call it pay2win.

Premium subscription is pretty much mandatory if you want to play this game tho.

>>1256469
Dropped. Thanks for the info.

Tibia is great, but my account got deleted due to inactivity.

So I made a new character in the world Arcania

Does anybody have some reasonably good gear or want to be friends?

My username is Buhiko. Feel free to add.

Also which worlds do you guys play on?

GUYS

what about we make our own Guild?
We all start as level 1 characters, on a new world, uniting the 4chan /v/ board into this MMORPG and eventually become the biggest clan on the server?

(or at least get very far and respected in the game. We can then recruit new 4ch members, it could be awesome, we could take over the PVP enforced worlds ((or the pvp-optional ones))

How about it?

And which world shall we stick it to?

tl;dr Lets all make a new character on....
Calva

Because Calva is one of the new worlds, there aren't as many high level bastards.

I will be making a Paladin on Calva named:
4chBuhiko

(adding 4ch to our newly created character names will make them all think, what is going on??)

Anybody who's up for it, create a character with a 4ch (or anything else 4chan related) prefix/suffix and add my character: 4chBuhiko

We will form a group and be awesome.

>>1256540
it won't allow numbers in the username. Shame.
I have named my character:
Buhiko Chan

>>1256536
>>1256540
I have no intention to move from Secura. I've already had my fill of PVP-servers during my time playing on Antica before the skull system and then on Dolera before they removed PVP-experience. It's an absolute chore maintaining position on those servers. I like Secura mostly because I don't have the time or patience to deal with power abuse, wars, and diplomacy like I used to. I just want to be able to log in, chat with people, help with quests, help guild lowbies level, and just enjoy my free time.

There is a guild on Secura already, "Yotsubas," which is the largest /vr/ group at the moment. A few of us are active, but I don't think we'll become a reputable power any time soon, if ever.

The "4ch" prefix is a great idea, but Tibia doesn't allow numbers in names, or capitals anywhere except for the very first letter of a word. Some of us also have characters on Aurera that we dick around with occasionally, with "Futaba" as a surname (Hondo Futaba, Saikaz Futaba, etc). But like myself, those characters mostly just offline train while we focus on Secura.

You're more than welcome to join us on Secura, if not, good luck on Calva (or Arcania) and I wish the best for you.

>>1256560

I used to play on Dolera, which got way too chaotic with level 200's and such. I later moved to pvp-enable (not enforced) but found less dynamics.

In game it is fun to have pvp, because we know it's just a virtual game.

I was thinking the 'Chan' prefix or suffix would do.
Point being it would be great if we could unite all the /v/tards that play tibia, with fresh characters in a fresh world.

that way there will be a potentially massive group of chan members ingame equalling a lot of fun :)

I figured Calva would be a cool world to start off with, perhaps we can do the same thing with other games too, bring more solidarity in games through these forums

>>1256487
Missing out on a great game. The free areas and features are pretty good on their own.

Nowadays the most significant difference between premium and free is offline training, which isn't really that significant to mages.

>>1256610
Unlike SA, 4chan can never organize and have discipline and motivation to do something together in online games. So it will never work.

>>1256635
Funny you mention SA. They had a great group on Lunara maybe 5 years ago. Very active and very helpful. But, even SA can't keep a group running long-term. It died out like every other group in a game does. Just not as slow, however much more suddenly. I think it lasted a good 5 or 6 months before everyone just disappeared.

>>1256536
>>1256540

Added it to the player list.

I won't be leaving Secura either. I have a couple characters training on Aurera; that will fill my PvP needs for a while I think.

>>1256560
>I don't have the time or patience to deal with power abuse, wars, and diplomacy like I used to

I feel similarly. I just want to actually enjoy the Tibia game instead of trying to making other players submit to our group of friends or kick them out of the game world entirely.

>>1256610
I'm not too keen on the idea of bringing /v/ into this. I've met plenty of really cool guys there, but the board itself tends to be a joke board with a joke culture with joke posters most of the time. Most Tibia threads I've seen there were endless baiting and Ultima/BRBRBR shitposting.

That's the reason I started these Tibia threads on /vr/ instead. I thought I could reach out to more mature folks.

But I won't stop ya. I'm just saying. I've heard /v/ tried to play Tibia together once and it didn't work out somehow.

>>1256635
........ SA? Something Awful?

>>1256646
Yes. Something Awful.

If you're hoping to build a nice group of players on Secura, you'll have to eventually spread out to /v/ and maybe /vg/ as well. Sure, there are a lot of chucklefucks mixed into /v/, but the community isn't so bad outside of the board. Anyone who isn't interested in the game or playing with us will leave anyway. Those who want to stay will. You can already see that trend right now with only like 5 or 8 people active in Yotsubas.

>>1256652
>but the community isn't so bad outside of the board

I'm willing to believe that. I have friends that I've met on /v/. I wonder if a Tibia general could fit into /vg/.

>>1256635
Is that image related to tibia somehow? Is that the SA group?

>>1257616
>Is that image related to tibia somehow? Is that the SA group?

It's the /vr/ Secura guild RL meeting.

>>1257725
GG no RE

>getting disconnected in a room with dragon, giant spider and demon skeletons

>>1257725
04:24 Loot of a dragon lord: dragon ham, a dragon scale mail, 96 gold coins

Kentaro the BEAST

>come home a little early from uni
>cool I can play some tibia, servers are closed from 3 to 5 pm.
Oh ffs

>>1259336
Only the EU servers are down. I'm dicking around in Aurera while they are down.

>>1259340
PK?

>>1259230
You need a goddamn house bro.

>>1260012
Too busy blowing all of my money on SDs so I can waste them.
>>1259854
Nah. Not yet at least. Aurera is crazy. I went from level 8-21 in 2 hours. making 50k exp/hr at level 8 is different. World seems to be filled with a lot of bored people too. Random guy gave me 25k, a knight set, knight axe, crown shield, and escorted me to get all of my blessings so nobody would kill me.

>>1260126
One needs escorts to get blessings? Anyway, get twist of fate to troll PKs who want easy loot.

>>1260141
When you're level 8 and people purposely camp the blessing npcs, yes.

>>1260141
One did today. There were people camping every blessing npc killing anyone that went near them.

>>1260306
They sure are bored.

Almost level 50 on my master sorcerer, right now I'm making a good buck from hunting vamps in one of the tombs, and about 38k an hour exp without bonus. I think I could continue this till about level 60 but I'm getting a bit bored. Any other places you might recommend at this level?

Also, I got almost 35k worth of vampire teeth and blood preserves, but when I got to yalahar I couldn't get through the gates, please tell me there is some way I can get past those gates to npc julius, because I could realy use that money.

Also:
>week of hunting vampires, still no vampire shield
shit those things are pretty fucking rare

>>1261686
Which server are you on and how much money do you have in the bank?

If you aren't "rich" and if your connection to the server is good, you can start hunting crystal spiders (similar to a GS) and ice golems (2x~ stronger than a stone golem) west of Svargrond's depot, on the mountain, using your wand of starstorm + exori vis. Both mobs are stupidly fucking weak to energy. You'll make substantial profit, even without looting gp or trying to make a lootbag. Combined they drop knight armors, knight legs, glacier masks, spider silks, frosty hearts, small diamonds, small sapphires, black pearls, crystal rings, crystal necklaces, crystal swords, strong mana potions, shards, time rings, platinum amulets, sapphire hammers, jewelled backpacks, and a bit more. That's just off the top of my head. I hunted there from level 45 to 65 or so (mixed with other locations too) at an average of 90k exp/hr without bonus. 120-140k exp/hr with bonus.
As a druid, I would bring 15k in small mana potions and typically come back with 25-40k in profit from loot depending on my luck.
As a sorcerer, you'll be a lot more efficient and should be able to kill them faster and with less waste.
You just need to be very careful here, as you can get swarmed and die very easily if the crystal spiders back-spawn on you. I suggest you hunt at the first floor until you are used to properly kiting multiple mobs at once, or pulling individual mobs without getting a horde on you. Then you can start trying the next floor up. I can't stress enough how easy it is for these things to swarm you.

If you have a lot of money (500k+) to spare, you can drop your cash onto SDs and strong mana potions, and convince someone to block wyrms/behemoths for you in Liberty Bay. I can make about 250-280k exp/hr there with a blocker without bonus. With bonus 350-400k exp/hr. By myself (at level 70+) I was able to make about 220k exp/hr without bonus running only the wyrm spawn with SDs. Behemoths were too wasteful.

>>1261824
>I can make about 250-280k exp/hr there with a blocker without bonus. With bonus 350-400k exp/hr.
To clarify; that exp/hr range is from when I was level 46 or 47. I was level 49 when I left. Then I went back to crystal spiders. until 51 or so. Then someone else offered to block for me and took me to worker golems in Yalahar. He would block 3-8 golems at once while I spammed thunderstorms to kill the group at once. That was roughly 300k exp/hr. I can't remember if I had bonus or not though, sorry.

> please tell me there is some way I can get past those gates to npc julius
See here:
http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/In_Service_of_Yalahar_Quest/Spoiler

You only need to complete up to mission 2. Then you can take the long-way to the Trade quarter by going to the Magician's quarter and travelling east through the same gates you have to use during mission 2.
You probably won't be able to make it to mission 4 (so you can use the main gate into the trade quarter) without help.

>>1261824
>>1261834
Wow anon, thanks for the very comprehensive and extensive response. This realy helps me alot. I'm on xerena btw, right now I only have about 8k on the bank.

The leading guild is a polish guild who pretty much dominates the server, I don't have bad blood with them although I did get killed by one of them once, but I think it was rather random.

Definitely excited to try something new so hunting crystal spiders looks like a good choice. By the way, why do you think a sorcerer will be more efficient than a druid? Don't your attack spells cost about the same?

Apparently, today Cipsoft deleted 15 or more - mostly BR - guilds and every account which had a character in said guilds for botting or bot-supporting. You're still all here, right?

>>1261887
It isn't about the mana cost. It's that druids have no energy rod. The best option is the death rod, which does normal damage to crystal spiders and doesn't hurt ice golems at all. So a druid has to use 1-2 more exori vis on an ice golem than a sorcerer and 2-4 more vis on a crystal spider.

>>1262031
I think we're all here still.

>>1262031
Well, I believe I'm still here. I've never botted once, Tibia's automatic tool has no reason to ban me.

We play on Optional PvP, so botters are nothing more than a mild annoyance.

>look up poll a few days ago
>guess the date of the update
>say December 11, the day of my last final exam
>Tomorrow, December 11, the winter update will be released.

How many million gps did I win?

>>1262559
What is your character name?

Looked interesting so i decided to make a character on Secura. So far it's pretty fun. I'm in Venore for the time being, any chance i could get a guild invite?

Upocu.

>>1262582
Added to the list.

I've been thinking about selling a premium scroll.
Going rate is about 1200k on my server, I've been doing a few calculations and the mana potions and rings I could buy with that money would allow me to exp fast up to about level 87 (49 now) with magic level 57. And with average loot value of the monsters I will be hunting I will earn the money back aswell.

>>1257725
fucking lol

>>1264869
Depends on how you hunt. Going for just SDs would not get you your money back. Strike spells will on average, but be much slower. But fuck the rings, get soft boots, theyre more efficient and you can resell the things roughly for what you paid originally.

>>1264991
I calculated using strike spells yes, sd's are a terrible fucking waste of mana, I would even rather put it in great fireballs than in sd's.

But how does that work? Don't the soft boots run out like rings? How could you resell them for the same then?

>>1265159
Soft boots can be recharged for 10k

For my friends here who might be looking for extra money: Invest into backpacks. If you are premium, buy backpacks from the NPC and put them up for 50 gp each (or 20 gp each for grey backpacks). For free accounts, you can find people buying backpacks on the market for 1-25 gp more than the shop a lot of the time.
I just spent 50k in backpacks and came back with 97k in only about 15 minutes.
Take advantage of people's sloth.

>>1266924
Holy fucking shit. Seriously? Can one sell premium BPs like camouflage for even more money?

The only BP I bought at market was a minotaur BP that I'm now using to store my valuable quest-related player-sellable creature products. It cost me 500 gold, but it's not like you can buy these just anywhere.

>>1267284
You can try, but 50gp is probably about the upper limit if you want them sold in a decent time frame. Fastest, but least profitable is to just accept buy offers. They're usually around 30~gp.

>>1267446
I bought ~6k worth of brocade backpaks, put them up on the market for 50 gp each and logged off. There were 40 and 45 gp offers but only 60 of those were left.

>>1267457
Hope they get sold soon. That 47k I made btw was from accepting current buy offers of 35-42 gp per backpack. I put up another 480 beach backpacks this morning. Down to 392 already. We'll see how quickly the rest go.

>>1267605
I suppose the quest backpacks have the highest profit margin. Crown, dragon, minotaur, expedition backpacks, I mean.

Not sure how high the demand is, though.

>>1267624
I'm honestly not sure. I haven't looked into it and I don't think it would be worth trying unless you were already planning to do the quests anyway. The backpack related quests are pretty time consuming.

Now that I think about it... Who the hell sets up buy offers for backpacks anyway?

Probably the backpack merchant themselves. Looks like they have it so easy they don't even have to go to the shop to buy backpacks.

>>1267730
Yeah. BP merchants mostly. But I know a lot of high levels too lazy to run to the shop when they can just grab a few bps for gold/items from hunting from the market instead of going to the shop. When they take their loot to the npcs to sell, they just end up throwing the backpacks on the floor afterwards and buy more later when convenient. Go figure.

>>1267780
Well, when you have so much money you can buy premium scrolls and play Tibia for free, I guess a bunch of potion vials and backpacks don't really matter.

Might as well move the economy, right?

Sigh... I tried my best to just stay away from any conflict on xerena, but for some reason it still found me.

I was just hunting at ancient scarabs today, and I got killed by two level 200+ (I'm level 53), now a few minutes again, 2 other high levels also killed me.

But it's get better, I literaly didn't do shit, but being killed twice wasn't enough, now some br in broken english with a red skull comes up to me and tells me I'm hunted because I helped someone who was hunted. And I have no fucking idea what he's talking about, I don't know anyone on the server.

I feel so shitty right now, all I did was pve on the server and I still get fucked killed and hunted. Geuss all the work I put into my character was for nothing because it's worthless now

>>1269558
Don't play on pvp server unless you have group of friends or good guild that will have your back. It's really shitty to play alone on such servers, I've lost lvl 46 knight when I first started playing Tibia.

If you want to enjoy pve at your own peace, transfer to Secura and nothing like that will trouble you again.

>>1269652
>transferring to secura
Yeah..I guess that is the only option left, but it's just seems like such a waste of money, 19,95 for a character transfer. Maybe I will just start a new character on secura.

What vocations are most needed in the guild on secura? I like playing a sorcerer

>>1269663
What level are you on Xenara?

Like, everyone is playing Druid in the Secura guild. Maybe a paladin? Only one which is active.

Sorcerer is fine, too. I think nobody plays it as main character.

>>1269681
I'm a level 52 master sorcerer on xerena.
I don't like paladins though, so either a mage or a knight.

>>1269686
Would be a pity to abandon it, I'd say transfer. It will save you time and nerves in the long run.

>>1269694
I guess, how is the vr guild on secura?
Also, I've always played on either hardcore or open pvp, I'm afraid playing on optional pvp will take some of the excitement of the game away. It's weird, because I don't want to pvp myself, I'm not interested in killing other players.

Maybe I just have to think about it for a few days

>>1269703
Some of the excitement is gone, yea. But all the griefing and power abusing and random player killing is gone, too. I don't know about you, but for me it was often more stressful and annoying than exciting. And since my time is precious now, I don't want to waste hours of gameplay by getting killed by some random lvl 250 brazilian kid who plays/bots 24/7.

/vr/ guild is ok, a little bit inactive. But there is a core group of people that play often and you can chat with them. Maybe someday we will get more people and do some group hunts or quest or something. Everyone is pretty helpful, and there is no meme-spewing /v/ level random retardness.

>>1269729
I geuss you make a valid point, I will think about it. Having some people to play with does sound like alot of fun

>>1269558
That's why I chose to play on Secura all those years back. I remember being subject to that faggotry a long time ago in Fortera and I didn't want to experience it again.

>>1269663
Feel free to choose whichever vocation you prefer. We apparently have an abundance of mages and a shortage of knights and especially paladins.

>>1269729
I'll probably be a little more active now that I'm on vacation.

>>1270032
Cool, I think I might try a knight, seems like a fun vocation to play and a good moneymaker

>>1270321
Good choice. There's something about the knight that makes it overwhelmingly powerful. They descend upon full spawns and kill all the monsters, one by one, with great speed and little waste. There are no runes or ammo to worry about; there is only keeping yourself alive with potions. It's a different experience altogether: a vocation that truly shines in its simplicity and power. Playing as a knight is a fairly relaxed experience, even when blocking a monster for a shooter.

When compared to mages and paladins, you will generally need higher levels to hunt the same monsters, at least without significant waste. However, there is no per-hunt cost associated with the vocation, besides potions. Depending on what you hunt, you might not need any potions and come back to the depot with massive profit.

If you are premium account, you will not have to train at all. With offline training, you will reach great skills without the frustration associated with traditional training, albeit at a slower pace.

>>1270435
Sounds great, I'm already excited about building a strong knight :).

Also it would seem like a great step up, if later on I would still want to make a mage, I could use the money I make on my knight to speed up the process

>>1271780
That is a wise strategy -- one that is particularly helpful on hardcore PvP servers. Making money with the knight, a vocation that has no future in PvP, and then go level with the mage.

But who knows. You might just like it enough to stick with it. :)

>>1271860
My main focus is on pve, and the knight seems like a great place to start and maybe even stay, when it comes to pve

>>1271908
Yeah, it is. So much, it can be used to support your other characters as well.

>>1270435
You forgot to mention that playing knight is the most boring thing in this game. There's no excitement of firing out runes, killing many monsters at the same time, or using some cool spells. All you do is auto-attack enemies, which is fucking slow, get frustrated at missed hits, and fall asleep while hunting. If you liked mage, stick with a mage. It's 100x more fun.

Pic semi-related.

>>1271950
I guess you also make a valid point, thing is , my mage is now hunted by some br guild so I can't do much on it, so I was thinking I might try out a knight, just to see if I like it. If anything I could use the money I make on it to level my mage later on

>>1271950
I don't find it boring at all, and I play all vocations.

Knights have instant targeted and area of effect spells.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Knight#Instant_Spells

Their effectiveness when it comes to dealing with groups of monsters is about the same as paladins -- the biggest difference is that paladins can attain a higher magic level. If it's high enough, a knight can even shoot runes, albeit with lower effectiveness when compared to a mage or paladin, of course.

However, spells like Berserk and Fierce Berserk are on a league of their own -- they don't depend on the knight's magic level, but his melee skills. They can deal a lot of damage to all the monsters surrounding the knight and are exclusive to the vocation. Knights can also challenge monsters.

The matter of your attacks missing is due to how the game's armor system works. If you're not skilled enough and your equipment is not good enough to kill the monster effectively, the damage will be blocked or nullified by the monster's defense. That is why paladins and mages get to kill stronger monsters at lower levels than a knight; I believe distance damage is calculated differently, and magic damage cannot be blocked at all.

Everyone has their own playstyle. He can pick whichever vocation he so chooses. There's no real reason he can't have a knight and a mage, either. As I said before, a knight is an excellent way to support your mage hunts; a strategy commonly used in competitive hardcore PvP game worlds.

>>1272087
Knight runes will deal less than 100 damage even when he's level 400 and has mlvl 10. Using runes as a knight is silly and pointless.

Exori is fun, but you can use it twice before running out of mana. And it has long cooldown preventing it from being used same way as mage's strikes. And WHOA, I can kill all the monsters one square away from me. When I use exori like 5 times. Mages can kill all the monsters on the screen with Rage of the Skies or whatever the druid has. Knight's exori does not even compare. Not to mention shooting avalanches and GFB's around, which is loads of fun. Knight just stands still and watches health bar of a single monster go down slowly. Then another monster... then another...

There's also no excitement of distance fighting and keeping distance from monsters. As mage it's fun and challenging to kill strong enemies without getting hit, or minimizing taken damage.

Knight is objectively most boring class in Tibia. You're pretty much missing on the entire magic and runes system, which is quite extensive and fun. Knight is safe, it's cheap to maintain, it's good for making money, but at the cost of falling asleep on the keyboard.

Annoying misses and blocked attack happen at any skill level, any equipment and any monster. It's just random system, and sometimes my knight attack gets blocked by rotworm, while normally I kill them with one hit.

Sure, he can choose whatever he wants, but don't just show him one side of the coin.

And that argument about competitive hardcore PvP game worlds is useless. I think nobody here plays on such world, and the guy you're recommending knight to wants to play on non-PvP world.

>>1272115
Yeah I do find mages alot of fun to play. For example, at level 53 right now I can already kill ancient scarabs and make a nice profit. They can kill me in a few hits so I realy have to pay attention and caste the right spells at the right time (exura to cure paralysis, haste when they caste haste etc.) For me this is what makes tibia fun, the excitement, the fear of dying makes it fun to play, opposed to other mmos where it doesn't matter if you die.

>>1272150
And knight lacks that excitement, unfortunately.

>>1272156
And killed again by two high levels (one 110 one 276) sigh.... I'm seriously starting to think about moving to optional pvp.

I can't play like this, been killed 3 times in 2 days now, and by different people everytime

>>1272584
Just transfer to Secura already, faggot.

>>1272643
Is it a very busy server? The only thing I actualy like about xerena is that it's pretty much empty and the spawns are almost never taken

>>1272649
It's busy compared to yours, I guess.

Players currently online on Xerana: 93
On Secura: 543

>>1272664
I see...

>>1272682
No wonder everyone kills you on Xerana.

>>1272717
Haha, it's just that I think it will be a pain in the ass to level if the server is too crowded, but I guess it's preferable to being killed twice a day by powerhungry pl's and br's

>>1272717
How does the character transfer work anyway? does my entire depot get transferred, or do I need to have everything in my backpack before I transfer?

>>1272783
All items in your main depots are deleted upon transfer. Any items you wish to transfer must be placed into the depot at Travora on be kept on your character. The limit is 1,000 items all together. You can not bring duplicates or multiple stacks of items, so only ONE pair of soft boots or 100 demonic essences, as an example. Your bank account transfers intact.
Once you transfer to Optional-PVP you can never transfer back to any server that is not also Optional-PVP.
You must have a yellow or lower conduct level. Cannot own a house. Be in a guild. Or be married.

Keep in mind that 19,95 is 3 premium scrolls and roughly 3,600,000 gp in value on Secura. So if you decide to transfer, you have to be sure that opportunity cost is worth it for you. 3,600,000 can get a mage to level 100 in less than a month with 2.500,000+ still left over. You could still have about 3,200,000 if you hunted to 100 normally with only strike spells and mana potions. I would say if you do not have at least 3,000,000 gold worth in items on your mage, just buy the premium scrolls and sell them on the market at Secura.

If you do not have a character of level 70 or higher with 31+ days of premium time, you can buy premium scrolls through resellers or with a bank transfer and you can then sell prem scrolls with almost zero restrictions.

>>1273305
Thanks for the info, I have applied for the transfer.
It's a national bank transfer so it might take a few days. I just look at it this way, I know 19.95 is worth alot in tibia and could probably get me to a higher level then I am right now (level 53) but I also look at the hours lost I put in my character as opportunity costs. I easily have about 70+ hours put into the sorcerer. So if I would not transfer it, those hours would be lost, the 70 hours spend on the game amount to a much larger number than 19,95, so it's more than worth it for me to do the transfer.

>>1274670
Completely understandable. I just wanted you to know all of your options. Let us know when your transfer goes through and I will invite you into the guild.

>>1272115
>Knight is objectively most boring class in Tibia.

I've heard knight becomes fun after level 200.

Am I the only one who enjoys playing the non-mage vocations, knight and paladin?

Been away from tibia for some time now.
Who is now the closest thing to a level 999 player? I still want to see what is in the fucking door.

>>1277254
There's nothing there. They got through on the test server.

Once people reach that level, Cip will either move the goalposts or actually get off their asses and add some content beyond that door.

>>1277387
Oh thanks, but still.
Who has the highest level atm?

>>1277505
I think the highest level is 714. Pacera if I'm not mistaken. Second highest player is level 690-something.

>>1277641
Can anything even touch a level 714?

>>1277801
He was killed in 1-hit by the newest boss monster.

>>1278353

Upocu. I put the pickaxes you mailed me on the market. I will transfer 12k to you when they sell.

>>1278361
i can watch this gif for minutes on end.

>>1274817
I will, thanks :)

It's been 3 days now, still waiting for the transfer to happen...

Anyone on Aurora wants to earn easy 100k?

I need someone to drag 10 Areca Palms from Venore to Fibula as my house decoration.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Areca_Palm

>>1280120
If only you had said Aurera...

>>1280120
You never told us which house was yours. How am I supposed to drag 10 trees if I don't even know which house to throw them in?

I made a character on secura. Would anyone mind inviting snuser to the guild?

>>1281396
What's your name? We can arrange it when we're both online.

>>1281852
Post the name.

>>1282126
>Would anyone mind inviting snuser to the guild?
>snuser

>>1282058
Grunt Worker

Rookgaard <3

>>1276705
Pallys ftw

>>1282206
>tfw all I have is 100 feathers and a coupple honeycombs

Feels poor.

>antidote rune
>multicolored eggs
>all those fluids
>that ball

How.

>>1282215
actually not mine collection, however I have 2x mlw and some other crap

>>1282220
How do you get MLW in rook?

>>1282223
http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Apprentice_Sheng

>>1282228
I thought the monster was unreachable.

>>1282229
Mino Mage is locked in the room, however AS shows up quite often, on some worlds even 3 times a week.

>>1282231
Wait, so AS is a rare spawn in minotaur hell?

>>1282234
boss, which is not so rare actually.
Also Munster is worth hunting (dice)
http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Munster

>>1213518
>http://pastebin.com/85qhp12a
>http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Scam

HOLY CRAP! All the scams! It's a long list!

>>1282860
Yeah. I remember falling to a few of these years ago when I was new to the game. We all should visit that page regularly.

I'm a bit confused when it comes to spellcasting classes. When you start on Rook, you just hack and slash your way through things, so mana isn't of much concern. But when you take up a caster vocation, you're either supposed to kill things with your wand (slow) or use spells. But spells take a lot of mana - and mana regenerates at a very slow pace.

So, are you supposed to be chugging mana potions non-stop? How do you even pay for these potions at low level? I imagine things get better when you can equip stuff that ups your mana regeneration, but how do you even get that far?

>>1283847
>So, are you supposed to be chugging mana potions non-stop?

Pretty much. It's either that, or pacing yourself carefully and hunting slowly so that your mana can regenerate.

You still need food, by the way.

>How do you even pay for these potions at low level?

Welcome to the world of the mages. Knight is the cheapest vocation for a reason.

>I imagine things get better when you can equip stuff that ups your mana regeneration, but how do you even get that far?

By somehow making enough money to buy soft boots

>>1283847
>I'm a bit confused when it comes to spellcasting classes. When you start on Rook, you just hack and slash your way through things, so mana isn't of much concern. But when you take up a caster vocation, you're either supposed to kill things with your wand (slow) or use spells. But spells take a lot of mana - and mana regenerates at a very slow pace.

In the beginning when your magic level is low, wands are by far the most efficient way to kill creatures, because they do a certain amount of damage which isn't dependant on your magic level. As your magic level and normal level grows, your spells do more and more damage, so they become alot more efficient. A flame strike from a level 20 mlevel20 sorcerer costs the same mana as a flame strike of a level 200 sorcerer with 80 magic level. But the latter will do much more damage with it.

So as you become more powerful, wands become less and less efficient, they do less damage per 1 mana then certain spells do.

At level 50 with magic level 46 right now, I use both wands and simple strike spells. And a combination of mana potions and life rings to gain mana.

When you are low level the monsters you hunt drop shit loot so paying for mana potions is hard but this changes pretty fast when you level up, your hunts will be more profitable and at some point it's easy to pay for your mana potions and walk away with a healthy profit.

>>1283858
>>1283863
I was hoping for a different answer, but oh well. If I use offline training to boost my magic level to an insane value (say, 70+), can I start hunting higher-leveled monsters for a better time/xp/money ratio so that I at can more easily afford mana potions? Or do low-level spells not do enough damage, even with a boosted magic level?

>>1283868
Boosting your magic level to 70 with offline training would take forever see graph.
In a year you could potentialy reach 65, but I don't even know for sure if this graph takes into account the time needed to regenerate your stamina, which would make it two years to reach 65.

A cheaper option would probably be to buy premium scrolls, sell them on the market for 1200k a pop, and use the money for mana potions and or soft boots to boost your magic level.

Or just go hunt with mana potions

Woohoo, my character transfer has gone through, so tomorrow I can transfer my sorcerer to secura.

No more getting assraped and hunted by br's and pl's

>>1283870
Ah, I didn't consider that - I'm playing a paladin on a preview server with double skill rate, so I'm sitting at level 20 and have distance fighting level 80 right now - that's probably a between a month or two of offline training. Does magic level rise much slower compared to distance fighting?

>>1283874
>Does magic level rise much slower compared to distance fighting?
Yes, 80 distance skill would take roughly 40 days on a normal server.

But the damage potential with spells is much greater than with distance fighting, so don't be tricked by the numbers

wtf, the guild leader on secura is level 40? What is this shit?

>>1283858
>>1283863
You guys, like, forgot completely about RUNES?

>>1283868
You can buy runes, they fire spells without costing your mana. So you can stack your backpack with Fireballs or Magic Missiles or stuff and go hunting without mana potions.

>>1283924
I assume that those things are still expensive, though. Is there any difference to buying mana potions or buying runes?

>>1283924
If you spend most of your money buying runes, and doing damage with them instead of your own spells or runes you made yourself it means you are spending alot less mana.

You need to spend mana to increase your magic level. (using runes does not increase your magic level).

This is the main reason why back in the day, without wands and mana potions being expensive as fuck, leveling a mage was a pain in the ass, most people spend hours on end sitting on their ass regenerating mana with food, and making runes. Then they used those runes to hunt. This is also meant that mages back in the day had much lower magic levels, magic level 50 was realy something back then, now it's faily easy to get.

>>1283896
>The guild level should be a fedoramancer that spends every single second of his miserable life hunting n00bz
Yeah.
Kinda fuck you.

>>1282202
Will you be online today to carry the rest of the plants?

>>1284116
>guild level
Guilds have levels?

>>1284197
Guild leader*
Trough guild levels would be interesting.

>>1284218
How would he hunt noobs on a non pvp server?

>>1284152
Hey. Sorry. I took a nap when I got home from work and slept through my alarm. I'll try logging on in a bit, going to cook myself lunch first.

>>1284535
Ok, I'm waiting.

>>1284226
It was sarcasm. I know this is 4chan but stop looking at every single little detail

>>1283872
Welcome!

Hi, returning player here.
Considering joining you guys.
I see there is a teamspeak server involved. I don't have a microphone, is it mandatory, or is the guild chat remaining the center of in-game operation ?

>>1285043
Game-chat is the central form of communication. Only a few of us use the TS, and personally, I only log in every so often or when someone asks me to join. So it's there more as a novelty than a requirement.

So I started a knight, but I don't realy want to waste time on it until I got some decent skills to powerlevel with.

What should I wait for, 80/80?

>>1286148
If you have premium account and can thus train offline, don't wait at all. Play normally during the day, leave him training during the night.

rate

>>1286254
7/10. Relatively good equipment.

Do the elvenhair rope quest. Buy some potions, 2k worth in brown mushrooms, a focus cape and protection amulet. Get rid of that fishing rod and the useless spellbook. You need a good, magic level-boosting shield. Let's do the thieves guild quest one of these days.

>having hotkey icons on-screen
>expanded console window
>life/mana/progress bars on top and not on the side
>not maximizing game window size
>interface not locked
>inventory window open when not needed
>battle window closed
>window filter box not hidden
>clicking hotkey icons
>not knowing all your chat off keyboard mappings by heart
>not naming hotkey sets for the vocation they're oriented for

3/10 is the most I can offer you.

>>1286278
>having hotkey icons on-screen
>clicking hotkey icons
>not knowing all your chat off keyboard mappings by heart
>not naming hotkey sets for the vocation they're oriented for
>interface not locked
I am a mouse guy, and I use the botom bar for some not-so-used-but-still spells like cure poison or food.
>life/mana/progress bars on top and not on the side
I like to have it there
>not maximizing game window size
Is the biggest size it can be with the sidebars there
>inventory window open when not needed
I like to be able to heal people arround me fast or things like that. Blocking a way with poision/fire fields has saved me quite a few times.
>battle window closed
It was closed because the spells windows wouldn't have fitted othwerwise.
>expanded console window
I chat a lot.
>Magic level boosting shield
I couldn't find any when I checked being level 16, will do it again soon.
>Useless spellbook
I use the windows client from time to time and is comes handy.
>Fishing rod
That thing, good sir, is the godliest, purest item you can have. You can get 99 fishes out of 99 worms, and 99 worms must weight arround 10 Oz.
>Focus cape
>Costs arround ten times more than the spirit cloack
>Gives only 1 more point of defense
I will wait some more.
Not saying all this to fight but rather to explain myself.

>>1286297
>I am a mouse guy
>not using the keyboard for all game actions

Using the mouse for even remotely important stuff is inefficient and can get you killed. Everything crucial should me mapped near the movement keys (WASD cluster by default).

Mouse should only be used for targeting, picking up items and interface manipulation.

>I like to have it there

Height is limited compared to width. Putting it on either side gives you a bigger game window.

>Is the biggest size it can be

The console windows can be minimized.

>inventory

Inventory is the window which shows your capacity, armor, wand, shield, backpack, etc. It's not used most of the time. I only open it to quickly check remaining capacity. You can set up a hotkey to toggle it.

Of course, your backpacks should always be opened. You can set up a key to open your root container.

You can even set up hotkeys to equip items. I have hotkeys to equip stealth rings, equip shield and crossbow, refill the bolts in the arrow slot... It's awesome.

>heal people around me fast
>blocking a way with poison/fire fields

If you want it fast, then set up a hotkey for those runes. It will make you more efficient at doing that.

>battle window closed due to spell list window
>not just minimizing it

Add a hotkey to toggle the battle window as well, so that it's easy to put it back there.

>I chat a lot

So do I, but a big game window is more important.

>will do it again soon

You can get a good one as reward of the thieves guild quest. I want to do it too. We should all do it together one of these days.

>I use the windows client
>using the windows client

I just can't bring myself to anymore...

>That thing, good sir, is the godliest, purest item you can have
>the godliest, purest item

More like the most redundant time-wasting item in the game. Buy mushrooms and forget it even exists.

>not playing the game like I do
>ISHYGDDT

>>1286336
>The console windows can be minimized.
I will only get grey space up and down due to the screen being a square, muh sidebars
>Inventory is the window which shows your capacity, armor, wand, shield, backpack, etc.
I am so used to having it there than I just forgot about it, I will minimize it when I add a third backpack
>If you want it fast, then set up a hotkey for those runes. It will make you more efficient at doing that.
But muh mouse
>Add a hotkey to toggle the battle window as well, so that it's easy to put it back there.
It was expanded only to show it, most of the time is in the second right panel, that is minimized
>I just can't bring myself to anymore...
You never know, muh paranoia about all my internet browsers failing because of reasons
>More like the most redundant time-wasting item in the game. Buy mushrooms and forget it even exists.
But if you are out of mushrooms? fishes are usefull too and worms are easier to get.
That feel when you have a soft argument that isn't even agresive

>>1286351
Also I am a level 18 facc
I can't even use the spellbook of guarding

>>1286351
>muh sidebars

Indeed, >muh interface-cluttering space-wasting sidebars

>muh mouse

Keyboard is objectively better. Try it.

You don't even need to disrupt your current interface; just map the icons to keys by right clicking on them and then try to use the keyboard to do things.

You'll feel much more immersed in the game because you'll never have to take your eyes off your character and the surrounding environment in combat situations.

>You never know

Google Chrome is as stable and fast as it can get.

Although I do admit that the flash client straight up crashed on me once due to a programming error (Cipsoft pls).

>but if you are out of mushrooms

Will never happen.

>worms are easier to get than mushrooms
>you literally buy the mushrooms by the truckload from the market at 1.1k per full stack
>they make you fuller than fishes, last longer, weigh less

>tfw useless fishing skill but no highly useful skinning skill

>>1286384
What is this weird looking tibia?
It looks all weird I've never seen that, is that a browser version of tibia or something?

>>1286492
You never heard of the Flash client? It's quite good compared to the stand-alone client. Just log into your account and click on the "Play" button next to your character's name.

>>1286502
What are the advantages? it just looks fucking weird to me

>>1286512
- You have four action bars around your screen where you can deposit actions, which work like the stand-alone client's hotkeys.
- You can have different hotkey/actionbar sets and switch between them at will, for example for different characters.
- All UI elements can be hidden/moved to a certain degree, allowing for greater customization.
- Trade windows are a bit better, as you can see item icons next to their names.
- Various small other small usability improvements I can't be bothered to explain.

Oh, and the code isn't broken as fuck as the stand-alone client is, so most improvements will come to the Flash client first, and the stand-alone client later (just kidding, they never come to the stand-alone client).

Need to get my knight a knight axe but its not being sold on the server, I have a level 54 master sorc with magic level 47, is the orc fortress quest soloable on my sorc?

>>1286517
Sounds pretty neat, I will look into it, thanks

>>1286517
You forgot the single most amazing part: fully customizable key maps in chat off mode.

>>1286524
Here's what I'm able to accomplish with the flash client:

>walk around with WASD
>walk diagonally with QEZC
>health and mana potions to 1 and 2 respectively
>support spells to [shift +] 3, 4, 5, 6
>commonly used attack and healing spells to F and G
>M for mana shield/challenge
>N for invisibile/stealth ring


>H toggles chase mode
>Y, U, I for setting attack, balanced, defensive modes
>R for open backpack
>T for open inventory window
>Shift + T for open battle window
>Space for attack next target (battle list order)
>Ctrl + Space for attack previous target

>V for rope
>B for shovel
>X to eat brown mushrooms
>Shift + X to cast conjure food
>Shift + V for obsidian knife
>hotkeys for equipping distance weapons such as a crossbow and shield
>hotkeys for refilling ammunition

It's a straight upgrade, if only for this priceless feature. Having every single command you need within reach won't just make life easier and simpler, it will save your character's life when you're under tension.

>>1286687
>walk diagonally with QEZC

Don't waste best and most convenient hotkeys you have around WSAD for diagonal walk, which you don't use that often, and is not very critical. You can bind it to shift+qzec and it will work just as fine.

>>1286707
You have a point. I'll modify them next time I play.

>>1286518
You can, but it will be stupidly difficult. Which server are you on? If you're on Secura I can clear the quest for you.

>>1286754
I am not on secura yet...but thanks for the offer! What level are you on secura?

Also, hunting mutated humans in yalahar with a level 25 knight, 70/62 skills, good idea?

Okay so what's the deal with defense and armor for a knight?
What is more important and what should I focus on?

Right now I have about 7k saved up
Level 27, knight armor and legs, steel helmet, vamp shield, knight axe plat amulet. I can either save up for my promotion or get a warrior helmet for 2 extra armor

Quests for a level 18 facc?
I want to make some money and travel a bit.

What's the point of reporting bots? I've reported an obvious botter 10 days ago, and the report is still in the state of 'Pending'. Ten days ago!! The guy is still botting day and night in the same spot, got from level 30 to 90.

No wonder this game is botfest if they do not punish players using them.

>>1287729
Tibia's rule enforcement team receives hundreds, if not thousands of bot reports each day (the thought process of Tibia players appears to be: Someone is hunting where I want to hunt - HE MUST BE BOTTING, REPORT THAT LITTLE SHIT!). It's obvious Cipsoft cannot check each report - so there is a minimum threshold before action is taken. If a single player isn't reported by at least X different players for botting, the report will not be processed - ever.

That doesn't mean bot reporting is useless - if no one did any reporting, no one would ever get deleted.

In any case, Cipsoft is looking into a better automated detection and punishment system that should go into test some time next year, which will hopefully improve the situation.

Botting is a problem in Tibia because the game is so boring that it is literally unplayable, especially at low levels. Want to watch your character slowly wack things to death for endless hours? Play Tibia. Knight and Paladin is especially boring. Click, wait, loot. Repeat.

I thought mage was better, but it's just the same thing except with downtime, because you have to wait for your mana to regenerate because low-level monsters don't yield enough money for you to afford mana potions.

>>1287742
Are you CIP employee or what?

>>1287779
>Botting is a problem in Tibia because the game is so boring that it is literally unplayable
Then why some players are level <500?

>>1287742
I thought there were automatic systems in place for detecting and deleting bot accounts.

>>1213803

This just struck me: Barring the complete neglect and constant ridicule of Tibia's history/lore/integrity for NEW ASHUM HLVL DUNGEONS, The Colossus is the thing you pass under when entering Kaz through the "main" entrance. It always has been this way. Now, look at the picture again. Drawn like this, to enter Kazo you need to literally walk into the giant dwarf's crotch. Oh boy.

>>1287742

God you sound like such a massive mindless drone. Cipfucks' bot "detection" system has always been ridiculously and outright offensively broken and abusable. The GM system as flawed by the human factor as it was actually worked. They "keep refining" the detection tool for years now and nothing's changed, especially their constant promises.

>>1288003
So what bot or automation software can I use and not be detected?

Can I run scripts in AutoHotkey without worrying about losing my account?

>>1288017

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13663999/how-cheats-made-for-multiplayer-games-ex-tibia-accesses-information-from-the
http://pastebin.com/6WWif7gK

>>1288027
Does the flash client also do that? I find it hard to believe that flash client does some memory scanning.

>>1288027
So according to that I can safely use keyboard/mouse emulating software?

Anyone used them for a long period without getting banned?

>>1288054
Do what and in what context? I can't imagine why the flash client would need to scan memory. Do you mean in the map importing process?

>>1288080
It's safe in the way that Tibia thinks something is manipulating the mouse and keyboard just like you would.

It's unsafe in the way a machine is doing it. With ridiculous precision. And the fact a program is running and injected onto your process.

If Tibia had something like VAC, you'd probably be fucked.

>>1287329
I am currently 84.

Mutated humans is iffy at your level/skill. Refer to below.

>>1287619
Physical protection % is the primary stat to focus on. Then def value. Then arm value. That is their order of importance and effect on the damage formula.

Keep your platinum amulet. Forever. You'll maybe want to keep a collection of garlic necklaces if you're hunting vampires or a collection of dragon necklaces if hunting anything that does fire damage. But in the end, the protection amulet is always your primary necklace.

I can't stress how helpful a promotion is for a knight. A normal knight will regain 1 hp per 6 seconds. A promoted knight will regain 1 hp per 4 seconds. I say do your promotion first, however not everyone agrees that an extra 5 hp per minute is worth the 20k investment at a low level.

That aside:
Your first step is to get rid of those knight legs and purchase zaoan legs. They are (arguably) the best legs available in the game.
Your second step is to get rid of your steel helmet and purchase a zaoan helmet. The best helmet in the game. Period.
Your third step is to get rid of the vampire shield and get a mastermind shield.
Your fourth step would be to invest into a magic plate armor.

Until you can afford any of the above, make no changes to your equipment unless you receive a donation or find something better for free.

Anywhere inbetween those 4 upgrades, you'll want to upgrade to a noble axe at level 35. Ornamented axe at level 50. Heroic axe at level 60. etc etc.
You could use 2H weapons for a large bonus in attack damage, but also a large penalty in defence. Naginata at 25. Headchopper at 35. Guardian halberd at 55. et c.

At your level, you can make great fast cash by hunting terramites in Ankrahmun or in Farmine. You can also try the tarantula task from Grizzy Adams in Port Hope. The boss drops great loot. Mutated humans will most likely be a huge waste for you, but around level 40-45 with 80/80+-5 you can make great exp/hr and profit.

>>1288003
I think it should be understandable that Cipsoft doesn't release what exactly is done against botters, as such measures would be easier to circumvent otherwise. While it is mostly true that the automatic detection that was implemented some time ago is broken majorly, note how I wrote that a new system will be finished next year, so I'm quite looking forward to seeing results from that.

And regarding GMs: GMs that work for free always had a track record of being biased, so I personally wouldn't want to see them back. And Cipsoft already does track botters manually, just as GMs would, only with more supporting tools. In fact, the rule enforcement department is the largest department in the whole company. Still, the problem is that there are many worlds, many botters, and not enough money to employ more staff members.

>>1288435
Wow that's an extensive guide, thanks bro.
But, what is physical protection? Is that skills? Or is it like a bonus you can get on items?

>>1289059
Are you a Cipsoft employee? A developer?

Is there any new version of Tibia Map Viewer or any other program with similar function?

Can I even view the maps from my flash client, like I could from stand alone client?

Ok my sorc is getting transferred to secura tomorrow, I'm done with all the br hueueueuue power abusing and having my charcacter killed by 200+ guys over and over again.

Who should I contact to get into the guild?

>>1289380
Just leave your name here, someone will invite you.

>>1289387
The guild name is Yotsubas right? Geuss I will just look up one of them when I'm on the server.

>>1289204
What if I was?

>>1289412
Remove all br's and pl's from the game please

>>1289412

Will you ever do a major graphics update? Something like 3D or semi-3D isometric (like Diablo 3 in example)?

Also, why there is no some kind of permanent torch? Like in the lightbearer event? It pisses me off that I have to either use lighthack by setting brightness to 100% and all caves look all bright and shitty and not like caves at all, or sacrifice tons of capacity for light sources or waste mana for light spells. I prefer to have darkness in the caves, as they look much better.

Please make permanent magic torch like lightbearer one. I'd pay million gold for it.

>>1289432
>Something like 3D or semi-3D isometric
I would quit the game straight away if they tried to pull shit like that.

One of the reasons I like tibia so much is the way it looks

>>1289420
But they're paying the bills!

>>1289432
Don't think so.

As for the torches: I don't know. Maybe no one ever thought of it?

>>1289196
Just a bonus on specific items.

>>1289553
>>1289432
>permanent torch
>Blazebringer mount

>>1289619
>Only for premiums
There is a point where you have to stop giving everything decent to the premiums.

>>1289619
>Blazebringer mount

Is that a mount that burns? How strong is the light? Where do I get it?

But still, that just proves permanent torch should be added, as there are other alternatives and it wouldn't hurt anyone.

I didn't know there was a Tibia general on /vr/
You guys made me so happy.

Greetings from Premia

>>1289707
Fuck you from faccnia ;_;

>>1289707
come to secura!

>>1289794
No thanks, I like Premia.

>>1289707
SHARE YOU FUCKING COCONUTS

>>1289950
I only have 9, my main isn't high enough level to survive a trip to banuta yet most likely.

>>1289412
Well, I'm impressed. Never thought I'd find an employee of Cipsoft on 4chan, much less a developer.

I hope you have a thick skin. People here have pushed away a bunch of emulator developers in the past.

Anyway, in the past threads we discussed some ideas to improve the hotkey system in the flash client. Did you see that, by chance?

>>1289432
>Something like 3D or semi-3D isometric

Please disregard this guy.

>>1289707
Hello! Do you mind if I add you to the players list?

>>1289646
You have to light all ten basins on the lightbearer. Santa gives it to you.

I think the crystal wolf also gives off permanent blue light, and it's the most badass mount in the game, too.

>>1289420
>remove the majority of the paying players because i'm analpained

Play on a optional PvP server if you don't want to deal with power dynamics.

>>1290041
>Please disregard this guy.

Hey, fuck you, too. I didn't mean to turn it into some kind of WoW close with 3rd person view or FPS, but to have same top-down view as now, but with better graphics and animation. Why is that a bad thing in your opinion?

>>1290178

http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=2590

>>1290190
The biggest problem I have with Tibia graphics is that they are inconsistent. You can clearly see which areas are old and were created many many years ago and which are new. It lacks overall graphic direction and standardization. Like they just have a bunch of random artists doing their own vision, without any kind of direction. And they they put all of this into the game, mix with the old and outdated stuff and then it's all a mess.

Hell, they've even admired that in this article:
>Not all pixel graphics in Tibia strictly match this perspective, though. The graphic artists make use of their artistic freedom here to choose whatever works best to achieve the desired result.
They don't even keep the same perspective for all the sprites! I think this game really needs a major graphic overhaul.

>>1290190
The biggest problem I have with Tibia graphics is that they are inconsistent. You can clearly see which areas are old and were created many many years ago and which are new. It lacks overall graphic direction and standardization. Like they just have a bunch of random artists doing their own vision, without any kind of direction. And they they put all of this into the game, mix with the old and outdated stuff and then it's all a mess.

Hell, they've even admitted that in this article:
>Not all pixel graphics in Tibia strictly match this perspective, though. The graphic artists make use of their artistic freedom here to choose whatever works best to achieve the desired result.
They don't even keep the same perspective for all the sprites! I think this game really needs a major graphic overhaul.

>>1290190
The biggest problem I have with Tibia graphics is that they are inconsistent. You can clearly see which areas are old and were created many many years ago and which are new. It lacks overall graphic direction and standardization. Like they just have a bunch of random artists doing their own vision, without any kind of direction. And then they put all of this into the game, mix with the old and outdated stuff and then it's all a mess.

Hell, they've even admitted that in this article:
>Not all pixel graphics in Tibia strictly match this perspective, though. The graphic artists make use of their artistic freedom here to choose whatever works best to achieve the desired result.
They don't even keep the same perspective for all the sprites! I think this game really needs a major graphic overhaul.

>>1290243
I don't see this as a defect. It's as if each town was a world in of itself, with its own culture and look and feel. It sharpens the contrast between Thais and Venore and Ankrahmun and Port Hope and Yalahar. Every area has a theme. Their art direction should be similarly unique.

I'm not against graphics updated to make items look better or anything like that, but to make Tibia 3D is to destroy the game.

>>1290041
You can, but I won't be moving to Secura, and I think I'm the only one that plays Premia.

>>1290338
That's fine. I keep a list of players on all servers.

>crixus

>>1290363
That is my offline training pally, my main is Saro Atakhand, a level 45 Elder Druid.

>>1286687
my hotkeys still need some refinement but I have healing/support spells and pots on 1-backspace, wasd for main movement, qe\zxc for diags (extra keys for south diags so I can be inaccurate and still move where I want).

R on knight is challenge but equips energy ring on mages (ctrl e for wedding/crystal ring). F is haste (strong haste for mages), G is charge (haste for mages). T is tbi'ish tools but I'll temporarily put anything in that action slot which might need frequent uses like Repenters urn. K is ob knife. I should add an invis spell/ring hk but so far I just click the action bar for them (my action bars are fairly full of handy things)

Numberpad has all my attack stuff (since knight has so few spells I also have pots there, pally has spear/shield/bow equips there).

Using the default space for selecting attack targets but I need to change that... Maybe to comma ( , <) and period (. >) since ctrl and space isn't really feasible in the heat of things, especially when I forget to turn players off in the battle list (which I turn on to look and join people) and the "you cannot attack this person" is cockblocking my lazy targetting.

>>1290391
I mean ctrl & r for regular rings to bump e ring out of the slot. Also ctrl & L for quest Log and ctrl & P for Profile because the default stuff is retarded. I also cleared quit/log/change char hks because they're just an unnecessary keyboard mistap I don't need.

>>1290391
>especially when I forget to turn players off in the battle list (which I turn on to look and join people) and the "you cannot attack this person" is cockblocking my lazy targetting

That annoys me as well. Devs should add an option to skip players when auto-targeting. It makes no sense in optional PvP servers, and arguably not even in PvP servers. The targeting of other players should always be deliberate.

>>1290041
>Did you see that, by chance?
Didn't see anything like that, no (and didn't find anything in the archive). Just found out recently that /vr/ has Tibia threads. I'd appreciate if you could link up the relevant post if you can find it. Can't promise anything though - changes that do not classify as bug fixing have to go through product management for approval, which is usually a lengthy process.

>>1291074
Funny, I can't find it either. I could have sworn I had posted about it but I guess I just discussed it with people in guild chat.

The flash client currently lets us create several hotkey profiles. When creating a new profile, it allows us to use an existing profile as base. However, that is a static, one-time process.

The idea is to make that dynamic by making it so that they can be organized in a hierarchy. It enables the "global and specific profiles" use case.

The user would create a global profile with all the essential features configured. Movement, potions, interface functions, everything that stays consistent no matter which character you're playing as. He would then create one profile for each vocation and make it inherit from the global profile. The child profiles would inherit all the options from the global profile and apply all the vocation-specific hotkey configuration on top of them.

The advantage is that it becomes easier to maintain several profiles. I play all vocations and I recently decided to reconfigure my hotkeys. I had to change 6 profiles in order to ensure they were consistent, but with that feature, I'd only have to edit the global profile.

It's similar to how CSS works.

>cascading hotkey profiles

Currently, the number of hotkey sets we can have is limited. If this limitation was lifted, we could have as many sets as we have characters. Since every character has a distinct collection of equipment, it would be beneficial.

We could then create character-specific profiles and stack them on top of the vocation-specific profile, which in turn is stacked on top of the global profile. It'd be a really flexible system.

Also, as mentioned at some point in this thread, it would be nice to have an option to have the "select next/previous target" function skip players even if they are visible in battle window.

>Can't promise anything though

That's perfectly fine. I just wanted to get the idea out there and see what people think.

>>1290041
It's not as much the power dynamics, although I agree pls and brs taking over whole serves like a plague and then killing anything that isn't br or pl annoys the shit out of me.

It's mainly the fact that they can't talk English, it's impossible to communicate with them and they shit up the forums

I have been transferred to secura, someone send me an invite to the guild please :)

>>1291206
Look at it the other way around as well. They also probably can't communicate with you. They see you in the exact same way you see them.

>>1291213
sent ;)

>>1291109
Wow, that sounds overly complicated and confusing. What's the problem with current hotkey system? It's fine and very useful, and with a bit of one-time work you can easily do what you've described.

>>1291218
Yes but the difference is, I'm not using my mother language to communicate with them.

I learned English so I can communicate with people of other countrys.

>>1291206

You'd be surprised at how many do speak English, they just refuse to try.

Last time i played Tibia, I was with a group of Americans & we allied with a Br team, not saying they all spoke, there were a few that straight up didn't know a thing, but there was a lot in there group that tried & spoke decently, and there were those that just straight up knew English but couldn't be bothered to before.

>>1291271
I didn't say it wasn't useful -- it is. I love being able to remap my whole keyboard.

I just said it could be even better.

According to the wikia, we Flash client has, or had, the ability to import/export options as a XML file:

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Client

>You can import/export your customised options in an xml file, as compared to a cfg which did not have a built in function to access it.

Though I can't find that function anywhere. If I had that, I'd just implement this idea myself -- there'd be no need to bother Tibia devs.

>>1291278
So did I. Apparently, I'm doing a lot better than my peers.

Still, there is no universal language. There is only a language that is spoken by a higher percentage of people. And it isn't even English, by the way. It's Mandarin. All you're doing is joining a bigger group of people. It helps you reach a bigger audience, but it's still not everyone.

So, where are you hunting today?

>>1291325
That's a bit lame dude, you know as well as I do that especialy on European servers and in online games in general, people are expected to talk English, it's just easier when everyone does that so you can communicate. And from what I've found online there are a number of groups that just don't want to talk English and it's mostly pls and brs, and that annoys me.

>>1291334
I think I'm going ancient scarabs, but I still need to get my hat of the mad. So maybe I'm going to try and solo that quest today, or if anyone on secura is willing to help, we can go together

>>1291339
But they''re only like 35k..

>>1291334
At what level I can solo lower crypts with GFBs as druid?

>>1291336
Tibia is a game where the majority of players are Brazilians with the Polish in close second, and yet there's an expectation of English? I don't agree with that.

Most of the time I open World Chat in Secura, I only see Polish dialogue. I didn't mind at all. There's no real need to condemn other groups of players because of language.

If anything, condemn them because they're power abusing the shit out of you.

>>1291357
35

>>1291363
You're forgetting that this happens on EU servers as well and that BR's have absolutely no buisness there, they ruin the game for everyone;

This game needs a region lock.

>>1291368
>This game needs a region lock.

Good luck!

>>1291345
35k is alot of money I don't have right now
>>1291368
This, even if I was to play on a server with alot of people from my country, among them I would speak our language, but to other people I would speak English and on forums aswell, it's just common courtesy

>>1291371
Well, if it can work in Heroes of Newerth why not in Tibia.

>>1291425

Because of:

>>1289553
>http://www.tibia.com/community/?subtopic=polls&page=show&questionaireid=235
>picture related

>>1291427
>German game
>1.84% of player base are Germans

What? Must be because the game is in English, and Germans are just like BRs and PLs when it comes to learning and using English.

I guess they should make different language versions of the game and make language-specific servers.

But wait, didn't they make BR servers long time ago? What happened to them?

>>1291427
disgusting

Just starting this now.
Got any tips 4chan?
IGN: doompod

>>1291430
>But wait, didn't they make BR servers long time ago? What happened to them?
Nobody to parasite on

>>1291430
>must be because the game is in English, and Germans are just like BRs and PLs when it comes to learning and using English

Maybe. I find it weird that the game wasn't in German to begin with.

>internationalization

That takes time, money and giving a fuck. I18n is hard as hell to get right and would probably turn the seasonal updates into yearly updates.

>BR servers

Tenebra was hosted in Brazil way back in 2005, but the network provider/game server host couldn't ensure a stable connection. Moved to the US, where it is still hosted is today.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Tenebra

With the world cup coming, telecoms are pretty much being forced to step it up. Maybe they should investigate the infrastructure there next year.

>>1291446
Read the pastebin.

>>1287779
Tibia needs interesting mechanics badly.

>>1291510
They took the mechanics years ago, I doubt they'll just put them back in.

>>1290243
>The biggest problem I have with Tibia graphics is that they are inconsistent
I will give you that. That new forest near carlin is a very good place to see what you say

>>1291510
>Tibia neeeds to be fun under level 20
FTFY
Seriusly, leveling if you are under level 20-25 is boring as hell, at level 18 I am raped or I rape, no middle point.

>>1290319
It's not that "every town should be the same", the issue is more in how different new and old sprites look, particularly in faccland which has been largely untouched for years. The rehauled Outlaw Camp, for example, it looks nothing like the southern part of it, behind the river, or the Plains of Havoc in general. Same with leaf golem/forest fury camp in the Fields of Glory between Carlin and Ab'. The most infuriating part, however, is how the new tiles make it so hard to discern between walkable tiles and the unwalkable ones. I've seen people complaining about this issue being present in Roshamuul, comparing it to Tiquanda, both of which are almost unmanuveurable without mapclicks.
Nothing like Plains of Havoc, or the most of facc area in general, which clearly tells you where you can stand and where you cannot.

Transferred to the server today and already hunting behe's with other yotsuba's

>>1291664
Go hydras instead man, you'll waste less, behe's are terrible at that level.

>>1291664
>hides names
>doesn't hide it on Battle List

why.jpg.png.tiff.exe.bat

>>1291678
>using white bars to hide names
>not knowing that ctrl + n toggles name visiblity

I already knew it was Lyfh and Arthi anyway.

>>1291685
What's the point of hiding it anyway? We're all like a family here. :3

>>1291693
Yeah, and the names are on the player list too

>>1291678
>>1291685
>>1291693
>>1291698
I was tired, lol, pretty dumb
>>1291671
I never hunted behemoths before and he needed to explore the tomb for his druid, it wasn't realy a serious behe hunt, but thanks for the tip

>>1291363
The expectation of English stems from the creator's wishes. And the wishes stem from the fact that online, English is by and far the most common language. Especially in 1997 where I would say at least 90% of the world wide web was English. Even in University they knew making the game in German would push anyone who was not from Germany away and kill the project.

The language rule has also only ever been enforced for Game-Chat (now English Chat), Trade-Chat (now Advertising), the Help channel, and the public boards on the forums.

Default chat has never had any rules for language, just for offensive statements. The private boards for guilds and the community boards such as Real Life have also never had language rules. Obviously private messages have never had rules either.

I'll dump few screenshots I have, because why not.

And remember, I'll be with you for as long as these threads live.

Stay strong guys.
Don't rip in peace.

Post your houses.

Is ignore list bugged? I've added people last day, and today the list is empty again. Flash Client.

>>1293693
Mark the checkbox next to the name. That turns it into a permanent ignore.

yo niggas does this have player housing?

>>1293852
Yes, each city has multitude of houses, different sizes and shapes, and you can buy them. Provided they are for sale. It's not instanced so only one player can own a specific house. You can decorate them, sleep in them (which offline trains your skills) and it's fun. Some of them are huge and looks great.

There are also guildhalls, which are even bigger.

>>1293861
sounds like my kind of mmo

>>1293852

>>1294138

>>1293872
By decorate, most people mean littering it with your most valuable items to show off. Of course, you can just use 100 furniture items available and make it a good looking house. But what are you, a hipster?
I don't know if Yotsubas still have their ghall. At first it looked retarded with their well organized storages, but then they fixed it by dumping some dead dragons here and there.

Intense hydra hunting which almost ended with us dying when 5th appeared.

>>1294268
I touched deep red for a moment, it seems being on the phone and hunting 5 hydras at a time is not a good combination

>>1293550
hey azebu

>>1294238
we still have the g hall biatch.

yotsubas stronk!

>>1295180
Why is your tibia so damn pixelated? Like, the edges aren't smooth at all.

>>1295498
He didn't turn anti-aliasing on.

>>1295498
>Using anti-aliasing
>Ruining your pixel goodness

>>1295846
Merry Christmas you fuckers.

Love,
Kentaro.

>>1296014
Yoo too bro

Signed,
Arthi