/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1241125
When I was a kid I was a massive pussy. I rented Ocarina of Time and stopped playing because of the Deku plants. This is probably not the answer you're looking for though.

levels?

how about the first 10 seconds of silver surfer?

Fuck this stage.

>>1241125
That's just Donkey Kong Country 2 shit for ya. Damn that game failed compared to the other two.

>>1241137
>silver surfer

what a cruel game to get a kid

it's not even fun

>>1241161
I didn't find that stage to be so difficult.

You know, considering I only had 6 games for my Mega Drive, and 3 of them were Sonic games, this was a pretty fucking debilitating feature of Sonic 3 when I was 7 years old.

>>1241182
I really can't believe all of this hatred /vr/ has for DKC2. I thought it was widely considered to be the best of the trilogy until a few days ago when I saw how many people here consider it the worst.

To this day, I haven't beaten this level.

I wish I was joking.

>>1241262
What?! That was one of those levels that became easy after the first time you beat it. I haven't failed it since I was like 8.

>>1241268
I downloaded the 3d version of that on the 3ds. I was going to play this before the sequel. I failed miserably and wasted money. I am so bad at videogames.

>>1241268
Kid icarus' difficulty curve is like backwards. The first few levels are fairly difficult because you have little health and can die easily

>>1241125
That level is easy. Web Woods made me want to stop playing the game.

Ninja Gaiden stage 3-3

>You think you can reach the top with full health? That's cute.

It gets worse when you have to do it again after Joker kills you with his bullshit gun.

>>1241262
Get the PC version, so you can retry the level as many times as possible.

>>1241289
Piss easy. Toxic Tower was mine!

>>1241316
>Piss easy. Toxic Tower was mine!
Animal Antics, even though that was at the end of the game

>>1241260
It's just DKC3 hipsters trying to improving the image of their pet game by belittling the dangerous king. I am full DKC1fag myself but can look past my feels and acknowledge DKC2 as being objectively a more refined and complex piece. DKC3 tried to do too many things and failed at the basics, thus ending up the weakest installment.

>>1241289
Did you know that by pressing L+R at the same time you lay a web right underneath Squitter?

>>1241339
Oh man, Animal Antics... Spent hours getting through that on the last playthrough. The start is piss easy, but Squawk's part in those brambles... Actually it wasn't even me who did it, my friend made it through in the end while I just got blown into the thorns ad infinitum.

>>1241304

Fuck it, I love that part. Top-tier precision walljumping.

Also, the Joker isn't so hard when you realize that he'll pass right through you after you've hit him. You can just spam punch when he runs at you and he'll pass through. Works for all enemies, I think. Either punch or use batarangs.

>>1241364
I know that trick actually. I've beaten the game a bunch of times, it's just that tower I hate.

>>1241125
Ha ha, seriously? Out of all of the levels in that game, Red Hot Ride has to be one of the least offensive. Crocodile Cauldron in general is just way too comfy to make me want to stop.

>>1241374
Speaking of Batman, things didn't exactly improve in the sequel.

Tomb Raider III - The Jungle

For some reason I could never get past the first fucking level of that game and would just ragequit after 30 minutes of looking around and not knowing what to do.

>>1241161
But it's fun. It's the most fun level in the game.

>>1241260
I never knew /vr/ had hatred for DKC2 in the first place. I always thought the whole trilogy is pretty strong. Kind of makes me want to replay it, now that the semester's ending.

>>1241182

2 > 1 > 3

3 is just so slow and obnoxious, I hate it.

>>1241292
Fucking this!

It's hard enough to make that final leap to the path that leads to the boss without getting knocked into the pit by either a bird, running animal thing, or the guy RIGHT next to the ledge

I've never beaten the 3-3 boss (the one that hops back and forth shooting stuff occasionally), I never know the right position to be in to start slashing away without touching him and the power-ups do nothing.

>>1241396
I also like all 3 of em. Good memories, playing with my brother and dad, seeing the commercials on TV for 2 & 3, getting hyped, not being disappointed...
And I've played em for years, I think I'll be replaying 3 soon, that's been the longest time ago.

>>1241439

Really? I always thought he was easy.

Just stay in one spot. Slash him when he gets close. Avoid his projectiles by ducking and just hitting the bottom one so it doesn't hit you.

You haven't even gotten to the real game yet, man.

>>1241345
/vr/ disagrees with you.

>>1241396
A lot of people view DKC2 as the oddest, because it fails to be a classic like DKC1, and it fails to be the adventure game that DKC3 is.

>>1241182
Call me a hipster or whatever, but I honestly prefer 2 and 3 to the original.

>>1241161
That stage isn't that bad actually. You can at least get a 1up every time even if you die, so that you never have to continue. Furthermore, it was a fun stage imo

>>1241410
Wrong.

1 > 2 > 3

You're welcome.

>>1241410
>>1241510
Same poster.

Everyone knows it's between DKC 1 and 3 for best game.

here I voted now

>>1241510

3 > 1 > 2

>>1241518
O.K. opinion, but actually it's:
2 > 1 >>>> 3

>>1241125
I found some of the other stages in Donkey Kong Country 2 to be more frustrating. That being said, nevermind all the Jon-Tron DKC2 hipsters in this thread who can't handle the fact their game is not perfect and is flawed.

>>1241483
Yeah, you keep posting the results of that rigged poll in every thread where people highlight your bullshit charade, it's hilarious.

>>1241534
>Implies poll is rigged because majority disagrees with his taste

Let me guess, you are a DKC2 guy, am I right? Where is your proof DKC2 is the best or most popular?

>>1241538
I was the poster the rigged poll guy replied to above. DKC1 is my favorite, DKC2 would've won in any normal vote. The fact that you continually have to repost the fake results in every thread DKC trilogy ranking comes up shows pretty clearly that the majority doesn't agree no matter how hard you try to sneakily influence people's opinions.

>>1241563
I'm a DKC3 fan, so naturally I express my admiration for the game, as well as point out its popularity with a recent poll.
DKC3 is a beloved game. I'm not sure why certain people feel they must discredit it. Just because some people prefer DKC 1 or 3, doesn't mean fans of DKC2 have to shit on everything related to them.

>>1241563
I'm sort of glad that site is word banned now, I don't think 4chan has used that site for anything other than shitposting.

>>1241536

Yeah, I never got in to Donkey Kong 2 like I did the original. I think it had something to do with the stage design. It just wasn't there. And I did like being forced to play as those animals.

>ctrl-f Maldita Castilla forest level
>No results

Fuck that forest level.

>>1241518
This.

>>1241125
Water Temple. Still haven't beaten OoT because I just do not want to play it.

>>1241603

I hate how people who haven't really played OoT are under the impression that the Water Temple is hard.

It's not hard, it's just annoying and a pain to play through because you have to constantly select the stupid boots.

Probably not kosher to say on /vr/, but play the 3DS remake of OoT. The boots can now be mapped to a single button on the touch screen. Makes the Water Temple so much more tolerable.

>>1241582
>I'm a DKC3 fan, so naturally I express my admiration for the game, as well as point out its popularity with a recent poll.
You're completely free to have your own opinions and preferences and I won't start shit over that, different strokes. My personal opinion of DKC3 isn't any more correct than the people who love it, that is an entirely subjective matter.

The problem with the DKC3 gang is that they are being extremely obnoxious about their game, actively looking for chances to talk DKC3 and trying to "stealth market" it into becoming the series top entry, or at least make it look that way to a casual lurker. I don't think people would hate on it so much of it wasn't for the rabbid shills on here.

>>1241621
Unfortunately I'm a poorfag. I have OoT on the N64, but don't have the money for the 3DS remake.

I tried to play the Water Temple and I ended up fucking up and using a key on the wrong door, and there's apparently a way to fix it but I can't figure it out, and I just don't want to touch the game again.

>>1241625
>The problem with the DKC3 gang is that they are being extremely obnoxious about their game, actively looking for chances to talk DKC3
What are you talking about? Someone didn't like a stage in Donkey Kong Country 2. So what. That doesn't mean the person is pro-DKC3.

Just because someone talks about a game they like doesn't mean they are being obnoxious. I find it more obnoxious when someone shits on a game that is mentioned because of petty reasons.

Some people like DKC2 and some like DKC3. Shit. Get over it.

>>1241658
Why do you try to discredit my post by implying I went off on a tangent after seeing OP's post? That's not what I've been taking about at all.

See
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>>1241483
>>1241492
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>>1241536
>>1241538

I could post more DKC3 shilling and DKC2 dissing from other active threads if you crave more.

I thought the DKC series was pretty flawless. Some of DKC2 levels were pretty rage worthy. Screech's Sprint being the worst. I seriously haven't finished that game because of that level. I'm replying DKC3 and i'm enjoying it so far. Nothing rage worthy, that I can remember. DKC was far too easy. Maybe because I played DKC2 a lot and became accustomed to its difficulty and ridiculousness.

But as for levels that made me ragequit, Ghosts n Goblins, stage 2.

I still play it...but that fucking stage makes me feel inadequate as a gamer.

>>1241596
RETRO gaming

>>1241691
You only posted the comments from people who happened to not enjoy DKC2. Did you not see the other comments that were in favor DKC2? You act like DKC2 is under fire. Lots of people on here don't like DKC2, while others do like it. What's the problem?

Maybe it's a new phenomenon. Up until this thread /vr/ overwhelmingly favors DKC2 among the games and thinks DKC3 is shit. You can debate the validity of the opinion, but you can't excuse yourself for being new.

>>1241783
That's not true. I've seen both positive and negative posts for all three of the Donkey Kong Country games. You DKC2 guys are delusional. It was just one straw poll. It's not like it's the end of the world.

>>1241740
Happened to not like DKC2? More like going all-in trying to shit on it, yeah. Good you make clear you're not reading what I quite so I don't have to waste time fetching the rest of the shitposts scattered around this board.

My favorite:
>A lot of people view DKC2 as the oddest, because it fails to be a classic like DKC1, and it fails to be the adventure game that DKC3 is.

I see you're trying to be subtle now by praising both 1 and 3 in the posts targeting DKC2. Good luck with the rest of your smear campaign.

Guys, can we please not turn Donkey Kong Country discussion into the new Final Fantasy discussion?

>>1241821
Lol'd at the filename, I did.

>>1241795
You act like people don't also shit post on the other Donkey Kong games. A couple weeks ago, I saw someone post about when they first played DKC3, they tried to kill their self. I also saw someone post about how boring and slow the original DKC was.

This is 4chan and lots of good games get shitted on by people who just didn't happen to like them.

Good luck with the rest of your "4chan is out to get muh DKC2" delusion.

>>1241384
At least the graphics were GOAT.

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that one yet.

Before anyone says anything, allow me to explain myself.

As a child, I simply couldn't figure out how to get to Bow's Mansion. It wasn't because I had a hard time understand the game itself or anything, but that at one point, there's a split path. One leads you to a dead end to a beehive, the other advances you through the story. Needless to say, because I went into the one with the beehive, and it was the one that pointed back to where I came, I simply could not figure out where to go. I even bought a guide, which simply said "note" the bee hive, not even helping me figure out what my problem was.

This made me stop playing for about 2 or 3 years before I came back to it, dicked around, and realized the "true path" way. Why my younger self never figured this out, I don't know. Still, the amount of satisfaction I got from discovering this alone made me continue playing, and thank goodness too, because I loved the rest of the game.

It took me ages before I figured out that the directions you get from the guy at Rose town have nothing to do with beating the level.

Not a level, but it did make me take a break for a couple of weeks. Seriously, these things were fucking brutal.

>>1241825
>Good luck with the rest of your "4chan is out to get muh DKC2" delusion.
pls
It's muh DKC. Nothing will ever top Gorilla Glacier for me (although Gloomy Gulch comes close).
>A couple weeks ago, I saw someone post about when they first played DKC3, they tried to kill their self.
Can you please dig that up for me? I'd love to read it.

>>1241883
This. Donkey Kong Country 3 rules. I doubt anyone said that about wanting to kill themself. Just because "Wah wah, muh DKC2 sucks and I know it" doesn't mean everyone else on 4chan shares your same shitty taste.

Someone said DKC3 made them want to die? Pics or it didn't happen.

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>>1241262
fuck that level, never managed to get through it

>>1241483
wow wtf dkc 3 was the first dkc game I owned and completed got it for christmas one year. I even know the other two are superior and I have mad nostalgia for dkc3

>>1241965
Me neither. Rented that cocksucker of a game when i was probably 10 years old. Could not beat that part if my life depended on it.

Why do people even get dyke crazy over DKC games? They were all incredible games and practically carbon copies of eachother. I didnt even realize dkc2 was deemed hard as fuck until this thread. Are you fucking kidding me? The only level that would ever piss me off was the second skull kart level. And that one towards the end with the parrot in the bramble level. No reason to hate a game though, jesus christ some of you all are crazy niggers.

>>1241896
You are in no position to call somebody else's taste's shit, when you are a fan of the super nintendo call of duty.

>>1241994
>super nintendo call of duty
Not the guy you're replying to, but I really think you're going out on a limb saying that.

>>1241994
>Super Nintendo Cawadoody

Are you retarded? That would imply it's a bad game, when there aren't any bad games in the DKC series.

I personally think 2 is the weakest, but I still think 2 is a very good game.

>>1242007
>>1242014
A yearly rehash series that values style over substance. Yeah totally not the super nintendo call of duty...

>>1241856
I haven't played this game since I've gotten to that boss.

Fuck that game. Fuck that boss.

>>1241729
>Some of DKC2 levels were pretty rage worthy. Screech's Sprint being the worst. I seriously haven't finished that game because of that level.
It is a very technically difficult level, but you can make it much easier by using the shortcut barrels at the beginning of the race. You'll still have to hurry, but it gives you much more time to take down those lines of bees.

>>1242020
Madden is a rehash. Sports games have rehashes.

DKC is not a rehash. TLoZ is not a rehash. FF is not a rehash.

Stop throwing that fucking word like you know what it fucking means or go back to fucking /v/.

>>1242020
Madden is a rehash series.

DKC is not a rehash series. They are clearly sequels.

Stop throwing that fucking word like you know what it fucking means or go back to fucking /v/.

>>1242040
Right DKC 2 & 3 were all the highest quality OC and not just made in some DKC level editor. It's a rehash they just change the main character to confuse simpletons like yourself.

>>1242024
Barrels at the beginning of the race?

>mfw I have no face to accurately describe the feels I have right now upon discovering this small but important fact

2 > 1 > 3.

I seriously don't have a clue what they were thinking with 3. Most people I know who played the game also despise this entry. /vr/ was the first time I ever heard anyone claiming they like it. Hipsterism or general /vr/ retardedness?

>>1242051

Madden changes as much with their games as DKC did from 1 to 2 to 3. That is objective fact. The only reason it is acceptable to you is that it isn't a sports game and it is dripping with nostalgia.

>>1242060
It's actually invisible barrels. Right after the race begins, when the stage starts going upwards, there's this tiny little opening in the brambles in the lower left corner of the screen. If you fly in there, you get shot through a sequence of barrels and gain a fairly good lead on Screech that should help with getting through the level.

>>1242069
Not that guy, but saying the dkc series is all the same is like saying all platformer mario games are the same. Imho.

>>1242060
>>1242071
Found a video of a guy using the shortcut. Video quality is shit, but should be easier to understand than my explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy6XIFWPTf8&t=1m21s

Let's do this thread right.

>>1241982
>Why do people even get dyke crazy over DKC games?
There was a recent poll that DKC3 won, so a bunch of DKC2 guys got pissed off and now everytime someone says something negative about DKC2, they claim it only comes from DKC3 guys, which is totally bogus.

1. A Straw Poll doesn't mean very much at all.

2. Just because you bash DKC2 that doesn't mean you adore DKC3.

3. All three of the games are very good, and everyone is gonna have games they like and don't like.

>>1241245
I never found this difficult, in the slightest.

>>1242106

Or it's all superficial bullshit and someone is just being an ass and stirring up non-existent drama.

I have all 3 games sitting infront of me right now with my snes on my desk. I enjoy them all immensely, as is likely for anybody that really likes dkc.

>>1242083

Mario changed a good bit from title to title. World to Yoshi's Island to 64 etc. You can say 1 to Lost Levels was a cop out and you'd be right though. DKC 1-3 used the exact same engine and core mechanics.

How can you guys care which DKC game other people like this much. You're blessed that you all have ones you enjoy in different ways.

>>1242106
that poll wasn't done of anyone in here. It was just something dug up from some furry community probably. Too many responses for how slow this board is, so even if that poll is right it doesnt represent here because I think the DKC3 croud is just a vocal minority

>>1242069
You have got to be kidding me.

The only thing that has been changing in Madden for the past 5 installations have been players, player stats, and team stats and it comes out every year. If you were comparing the first Madden game and the latest one, there would be a lot more changes. However, changes between the latest Madden and the one released the year before are very minimal.

While the DKC games have the similar gameplay, there are far more differences between them than you'd find in a Madden game that has been released for 5 years. This has nothing to do with nostalgia goggles.

You're comparing apples and bananas right now.

>>1241125
Yeah, I'm with you, OP. I just couldn't get down with Donkey Kong Country 2 like I can the other games in the trilogy.

>>1242120

Different physics engine, rebuilt graphics engine, new modes, new online features, new team creations, new players and stats.

Quit acting like you played these games.

>>1242125
Its honestly becoming the new FF.

Not even FF threads are this bad.

>>1242125
>>1242114
Why can't we all get along? Let's not shit up this nice board we have.
What's the point in trying to convince someone they're liking the 'wrong' things anyway? To each their own. Try to keep the 'stop liking what I don't like' bullshit out of our comfy /vr/.

>>1242118
>that poll wasn't done of anyone in here. It was just something dug up from some furry community probably
Hahahaha I love you. The worst thing is you're most likely spot on.

>>1242118
Not that guy, but that poll was indeed from /vr/, because I remembered it and raged when DKC1 didn't win.

Lots of polls on /vr/ usually get around 200 votes. Didn't you see that Chrono vs Final Fantasy poll? Or the Final Fantasy main series poll? They each had close to 200.

>>1242134

On top of new gameplay features and controls in each iteration. I mean, it is much harder to list all the improvements in each Madden than it is for DKC.

New levels, one new character...?

>>1242134

You disgust me, /v/.

>>1242141
I like peace, but this is 4chan and if I don't like something about DKC2, then people can get over it. I don't rage over their opinions and taste.

>>1242148
>but this is 4chan
What constitutes 4chan rapidly changes every day, stop trying to force some pre-determined edge-culture/

>>1242140
This. Four weeks ago there was a poll about the top SNES games. Super Metroid won the poll, with Chrono Trigger and Donkey Kong Country 3 close behind.

The fact that DKC3 was third place proves the poll wasn't rigged by DKC3 fans, yet the game still managed to be very popular in the poll.

>>1242148

But you keep putting out shit opinions that cause strife and can't qualify them for shit.

You are fucking bitter, go back to the boards *where you came from* that support that type of shit.

>>1242160
Their rigging just wasn't effective enough, maybe the voting botnet was out of order on the day the poll ran and they had to fake it manually.

>>1242160

I really think that /vr/ just has a huge DKC3 following. Look at any forum dedicated to DKC games or has sub forums for a bunch of games. Nobody talks about DKC games outside of 1 and 2 with the passing mention that 3 existed.

>>1242147
You don't have that in football, retard. What there might be is a new tackling mechanic though, or new ball physics engine. I'm not a fan of the series myself but you really just gotta accept DKC is in the same boat. I'm not that guy you were arguing with but those sports games change every year usually with tweaks to things people who care about sports requested. A casual fan wouldnt difference between madden games or DKC games though so just calm down and accept its rehash status.

>>1242170

That's pretty much what I'm saying. DKC and Madden are both rehashes. The only thing is Madden actually does technically change more things in its rehashes than DKC did.

Gamers have this built in defense mechanism to their series getting called rehashes. "at least it isn't -really popular yearly installment of a game "diehard" gamers don't like". Shut the fuck up with that shit and see things as they are.

>>1242134
I have played those games.

Graphics and physics are always a given because they are continuously released every year and are required to keep up with the latest console generation.

So you have new game modes...which are added and changed with every new installation. Yep.

And like I mentioned, new players, stats, etc.

But you're still playing the same game. You're playing football. You're playing to win Super Bowls or maintain a dynasty or become the best RB or QB in the league. With online features.

TBH, that's not enough for me to continue buying the same game every year. It is the same game, but more enhanced to stay up to par with the console its been released for.

>>1242164
>But you keep putting out shit opinions that cause strife and can't qualify them for shit.

>>1242173
>Their rigging just wasn't effective enough

You see? This is what I mean. This is 4chan, people. Get over it. You are gonna hear different opinions and certain games are gonna be popular that you don't like.

If you need a hug, then I suggest you go to Game Faqs.

>>1242169
You are right, it does. And it should, because DKC3 is a great game. Donkey Kong Country 1 is my personal favorite, but I admit that DKC3 is a big game with an awesome world map. So naturally gamers are gonna like it. I don't see why the fuss against the game, either.

I have fond memories of all DKC games. I first rented DKC1 when I was in the 1st grade. I remember faking an illness just to stay home and get to the next world. I would load up the Funky Kong level and just listen to the music while I played with my action figures. Goddamn those were memorable times.

DKC2 I had this huge maple leafs garbage bin filled with pennies that my parents would just toss in whenever they had change. I eventually had 80 dollars worth. Went down to Kmart with my Mom and got DKC2. Played the sweet fuck out of that game for years.

DKC3 I got one year for christmas. It was the main present I wanted and my parents pulled one of those tricks where it wasn't with all the other gifts under the tree. After I opened everything i realized it wasn't going to happen until my dad said "hey wait a second, there is one more over here"...big shit eating grin spread across my face because I just knew what it was.

DKC3 was the only donkey kong game I 100%. All those golden birds and fuckin dk coins. I shit my pants the first time that island burst out of the ocean with all of the secret levels.

>>1242192

I think most of us just find it very peculiar since DKC3 is legitimately never talked about in a popular notion outside of /vr/. I've never ever seen it listed in a top 3 SNES games list let alone top 10 and its popularity on any site you go to in very much below the previous two.

>>1242170
Also not the guy you responded to, but a game doesn't have to be a rehash just because it uses the same engine. I don't really think sports games are comparable to platformers, at least not the "yearly" sports titles. The DKC games all added so many new elements they are very different experiences as platformers.

There wouldn't be any discussion of which is better if they were all the fucking same. Do you hear discussion of which Madden is the best? Maybe 2014 is out now, but fuck that shit, 2008 was so much better. The atmosphere was amazing and the ball design just got worse.

>>1242212

>so many new things in DKC titles

Please, go on.

>>1242187
The problem isn't getting butthurt about your favorite series being called a rehash.

Its people just using that word to describe a series they don't particularly enjoy. They do it mostly with Nintendo games even though the games are completely different from one another.

>>1242209
When Nintendo Power did its 100th issue, Donkey Kong Country 3 was ahead of the other two games on their top 100 games list.

Personally, I've met lots of people who loved DKC3 back in the day.

>>1242185
What about different Madden games released on the same console?

>>1242192

Do you not realize that when you type shit that doesn't work, you can't have valid discussion about things afterwards?

Nobody wants hugs from neckbeards, trust me, but I do expect you to actually contribute to the conversation if you're going to stink up this thread.

And the second thing you quoted was satire. I hope to god I'm posting to a troll, but I really think you need correcting and will waste my time if it does do the trick.
If you want to hammer DKC2, then do it properly.

You could compare it's lack of open world to its predecessor.

You could talk about the differences inherent in the actual frame data and movement speeds of the duo in the games.

Talk about level design, art aesthetics, something ANYTHING, but you CHOOSE to say it's shit and fold up your arms like a five year old.

>>1242221

I use it for games that are truly rehashes.

I like DKC but I am the first to admit the three games did little to nothing to differentiate themselves from the previous installment.

>>1242229
I don't have any problems with DKC2 at all. I like all three of the games. What the fuck are you talking about?

Just because I said "You are gonna hear different opinions and certain games are gonna be popular that you don't like," you thought I was somehow dissing DKC2? Are you delusional?

>>1242246

This guy: >>1242229 is a Donkey Kong 2 troll from /v/. He thinks 4chan is "out to get muh DKC2 game, wah wah!" Just ignore him. /vr/ needs less of these pointless arguments, and needs to focus more on quality posts and actually playing video games.

>>1242221
thats your victim complex speaking.

>>1242227
I will be honest: I haven't played the different Madden games on the same console. I didn't see any reason to.

But if the game play is that dramatically different, then you can take the cake on that one.

But then again, how big is the change in the earlier Madden games (let's say 96 to 97 for the PS1) compared to the changes in the newer Madden games (last years with this years for the PS3)? Taking in account limitations with older consoles and such?

I always lose interest here at Sliph Co.

>>1242256

Can we really stop with the "that guy has opinions I don't like so he is from /v/" stuff? Seems really childish.

DKC 2 > DKC 1 >>>>>>>>>>> DK 64=DKC 3

>>1242264
I don't think the guy is from /v/ because he has opinions I don't like. I think the guy is from /v/ because he is a paranoid fag who thinks if you are not praising DKC2, then you are out to smear it. Which is stupid. Just because someone doesn't like a certain game, you don't have to rage or claim others are "out to get you." That's why I say he is from /v/.

>>1242232
Fair enough. I don't know if you're the same guy I've been talking to but you have explained yourself in a concise manner as to why DKC is a rehash and I will agree with you because you are right.

>>1242257
Go to /v/ and see for yourself.

Head into one of those troll console war bullshit threads then come back. Now is the perfect too with the new generation consoles coming out.

Or do it during E3. Its truly a shitshow of faggots throwing that word around in attempts to troll everyone else.

>>1242223
DKC2 has a new character that can hover, which changes the basic gameplay immensely. You have new types of water stages where it alternates between underwater and on land sections. There are new types of bonuses like hidden bonus barrels and the cannons you need to load with cannonballs, and whole new types of bonuses instead of the three different ones that were in DKC: finding the bonus coin by traversing obstacles, finding the bonus coin inside throwable objects, killing all enemies, collecting all stars and so on. There were many new types of transportation type barrels added. In DKC you only had the 180 degree angle barrel and the freespin 360 one, but in DKC2 there are four-directional step barrels, marked directional barrels, controlled angle barrels and fixed angle controlled movement barrels, allowing for much more complex barrel focused design. They added an enemy type that hides inside various types of throwable barrels, requiring you to exercise caution when approaching these. They added bosses with large areas to battle on and actual complex patterns to figure out and counterattack. Squawks become grown up between the games and is now able to fly while holding the monkeys, which allows for completely free movement in all directions and very different level designs. Squitter the Spider is a new animal buddy that has the same free movement as Squawks but gets around by laying webs that disappear after a while, so you need to plan your path before you proceed.

I could go on about DKC2 for much longer, and there'd be just as much to type up about DKC3.

>>1242232
I think the main differences are the talents of the characters. Donkey Kong is strong, Diddy is fast, Dixie can fly, Kiddy is also strong and can... bounce... yeah I don't like Kiddy either but it was somewhat different.

I also think there was a difference in the way they go about bonus areas. For DKC, there's no prior indication and no real incentive past getting more bananas and lives. DKC2 added distinct bonus areas (sometimes) and hidden DK coins, promoting exploration. DKC3 also had that, except these bonus areas were always marked for simplicity, and rather than having hard-to-find DK Coins, they were introduced through a new enemy, Koin, who is often easier to find but will require some amount of dexterity or thinking to get the Coin off of him (my personal favority is when they had a Bazooka shooting standard barrels at Koin, and you had to switch it to the metal barrels that can kill him, then bounce on the floating barrels to reach him and kill him).

>>1242258
To be honest, I don't play Madden either, I just wanted to be a devil's advocate. I think I have a stepdad that plays Madden, though, I might ask him how different each game is.

>>1242282
Now is the perfect time too*

>>1242275
To everyone saying this thread is full of people "out to smear" Donkey Kong Country 2, then I advise you read this post: >>1242275

Gee. That guy looks like a legit DKC2 fan to me.

>>1242232
Donkey Kong Country was a masterpiece of gaming. Its brilliant level design, soundtrack and ultra tight controls left the gaming world stunned.

Donkey Kong Country 2 tried to be more of an adventure game, but I feel the overall level design was far more annoying than the original. I didn't like being forced to play as the animals.

Donkey Kong Country 3 continued on the idea of making Donkey Kong into more of an adventure game, as it featured a world map complete with shops, puzzles and un-linear stages. So overall, I think it was a much better game than Donkey Kong Country 2, but still in the same league with the original.

>>1242312
>>1242279

If you guys really think that all of those things constitute a new non rehashed title, then next time you bash CoD for being a rehash-- play them and realize they changed a ton from title to title in little ways such as the ones you listed for DKC.

>>1242094
Motherfucker.

There are fucking barrels to get you through the level with minimal effort.

ARGH.

>>1242320
>If you guys really think that all of those things constitute a new non rehashed title
I don't. I was just posting what I thought about the DKC series. Sorry if I tagged you, when perhaps I should have tagged someone else.

>>1241852
after Geno disappears it is pretty aggravating. But just after this is when the game gets fucking awesome.
>Dat mole mountain music
>>1241132
>not using Flash man's power
>even though I do and still die at least once every damn time

>>1241245
Sorry, but you have to be retarded not to figure this out, even at 7 years old and at least by process of elimination when using the controller.

>>1242312
This. Donkey Kong 3 rules

DKC3 overcomplicated the formula. It's the FF8 of the series.

>>1242312
But DKC3 has Kiddy Kong. That's the worst character in the series ever.

Therefore 2 is superior.

>>1242452
>DKC3 overcomplicated the formula
>Admits he sucks

>>1241125
Here's a tip. Take out DKC2 and put in either DKC1 or 3. You can thank me later.

Hey, hey- everyone. DKC2 is a gem of a game and among the most sublime of platformers. DKC3 is underrated and a lot like DKC2, just a little more expansive. So guys, stop arguing. The true piece of drivel is DKC1. Truly an unfinished mess of a game. I agree with Miyamoto's sentiments on it.

I'm happy that people are finally recognizing DCK3 as a high-caliber game, but everyone's butthurt is aimed at the wrong direction.

>>1242535
>I agree with Miyamoto's sentiments on it.

Fun fact: He doesn't actually hate DKC and that quote was a mistranslation/misatributed/whatever

From what I understand, he was involved to some extent with the project.

>>1242460
Kiddy Kong sucks, but that doesn't make the game worse.

in this level of Ren and Stimpy for SNES...I could never figure out how to do the boss. i could never get the happy helmet on Ren's head even if i tried for 5 hours.

I'm going to get a walkthrough for this game (now that it's the future and the net exists) and see what the hell had to be done that my young 11 year old self could not figure out.

>>1242557

oooooh, that's how to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PVVmiE0u8A&t=3m0s

>>1241834
I think the issue is that you can insert any level after that as well. Still haven't beaten that fucking game.

>>1242543
He was pressured by Nintendo to make Yoshi's Island with 3D graphics. He did as he always does and told them to shut the fuck up.

I was extremely scared of the big bad wolf in King's Quest, because the version I had played a menacing tune whenever it appeared. I've never been able to find it elsewhere, though, most versions just being silent.

This right here, the only game ever in my childhood that I straight up gave up on because I couldn't figure it out. I usually got through any puzzle or platforming challenge when I was a kid, but I just could not figure out the fucking ice manor puzzle in Alundra. Holy fuck, I sort of want to fire it back up and complete it now, just to see if it really was that difficult or I just wasn't thinking on the right wavelength.

>>1241656
It is impossible to "use the wrong key on the wrong door"

why would the designers allow for that to happen?

>>1243038
I don't think they did it on purpose. You can get three keys and you can open more than three doors, and if you use a key on one of the doors before you're supposed to, you lose a key, and I've been posthumously told that there's a way to get another key by going to a later dungeon and grabbing one, but my younger brother had already deleted my save file and I don't want to play through the first half of the game just so I can get back to that hellhole.

>>1241260
Fuck those people lol. DKC2 is the best.

Speaking of which, the entire game is absolute shit.

Fuck those tigers.

>>1243093
Just charge up a shot and fire it on them, kills them in one hit.

>>1241125

The DKC series has always seemed like a hack of itself.

The first few levels make sense, but halfway in you're just shooting in barrels floating around in space encircled by half a dozen bees that have no business being in an ice stage.

It's good game design, but very weird from a story or thematic point of view.

>>1241691
All of the fags who hate DKC2 are just assblasted because they can't beat it. I love all of the DKC games, and it hurts me when I see people shitting on any of them because they don't like it as much as the other 2.

>>1243093
I've never understood this. I think you'd have to be clinically dead to have trouble with Mega Man 5.

>>1241292
not 6-2

>>1243114
For fuckin' serious. The whole game feels phoned in. Shit bosses, shit stages, shit weapons, shit (non)difficulty.

pretty much everything this level and beyond

>>1243101
Haha this made me laugh. Why are the bees circling the barrels in an ice world? That's like asking why bowser has all those traps in his castle, wouldn't it make it hard for him to go buy groceries each week? Yes I also wondered this

>>1243107
I beat DKC2 and I still think it's the weakest link.

People really think DKC2 is hard?? I wonder what games they think have a good degree of difficulty.

>>1243178
Nah, they don't think it's hard. They just find it corny.

>>1243172
I think several games have him bathing in lava, so I don't think it's a big deal for him to be in lava.

Getting knocked off a bridge into lava is clearly a whole different story.

>>1243178

I found it difficult the first time I played through it. Definitely has a lot of frustrating parts.

>>1241262
There was a hidden air recharge behind a wall so you didn't have to rush so much.

>>1243515

That might have been some actual artificial difficulty

I remember knowing about that secret wall, but I ONLY knew about it because of Gamepro magazine. I've beaten EWJ a bunch, but I've never gotten past that one point without using the extra air.

I can handle this now, but when I was little I literally had to use the level select cheat to get past this point and deal with all the dead Muds.

>>1243537

The first stage in the Himalayas in Tomb Raider 2.

>>1243107
I don't hate DKC2, I think it's an absolute masterpiece. I just like DKC3 more.

Sky World in Super Mario Brothers 3

It can go fuck itself

>>1243645
>ragging on the best world
No anon, you can go fuck yourself.

>>1243658
the best world is giant world

This shit RIGHT HERE.

>>1243659
>Best world is really Ice world.

>>1243667
Desert world master race

>>1241161
I tried that stage like 60 times, they really could have added that stage skip right at that part. The lava surf was a piece of cake for me.

>>1243668
>not pipe world

>>1241260
they all kinda suck

>>1241856
>>1241856
$toss

This boss level on Mendel Palace, I never managed to get past it.

It's impossibly hard, those guys keep multiplying, and they make tiles unusable, so you can't attack 'em.

DKC2: Animal Antics

>>1242312

>controls
>super tight

>>1242312
>I didn't like being forced to play as the animals.

You mean that thing that was worse in 3.

>>1244106
>You mean that thing that was more balanced in 3.
Fixed that for ya.

>>1244108
>hurr durr i'm biased

Yeah i know right playing a level with a barrel dropping Squawks and Ellie was awesome and not tedious at all.

>>1244113
>playing a level with a barrel dropping Squawks and Ellie was awesome and not tedious at all.
You said it.

>>1244125
That's not Downtown.

Also turn off that OpenGL shit, you fucking faggot.

>>1244121
I don't get the hate for Ellie. I like Ellie a lot more than Rambi. Rambi was just "ram into things to kill them." I prefered the shooting water aspect of Ellie, they were able to do more with level design that way.

>>1244121
This reply just tells me you have nothing to stand on.

>>1244129
That's not my screenshot, I just googled the stage name.

>>1244134
>This reply just tells me you have nothing to stand on.
Ditto.

>>1244132
Yeah, Ellie was awesome! I liked both Rambi and Ellie to be honest, though.

>>1244095
Name a few examples of what you consider tight controls then, so we can see you're not just full of shit. When it comes to precision platforming controls, few games come near the level of SMW and DKC.

>>1244356
Don't forget Super Metroid.

>>1244132
Both characters are heavy and have very clunky jumps, but with Rambi you can attack enemies in the front making movement less painful. Platforming with Ellie is just a chore. That elephant looks really stupid stupid too (subjective opinion), and the "afraid of mice" gimmick isn't any fun (objective truth).

>>1244365
>Platforming with Ellie is just a chore
You must have sucked.

> the "afraid of mice" gimmick isn't any fun
Yes it was. It also offered gameplay variety.

>>1244356
>When it comes to precision platforming controls, few games come near the level of Super Mario Bros 3 and DKC.
Fixed that for you

>>1244365
>You must have sucked.
If that's the highest level of discourse you are able to contribute with there's not much point in continuing, it's like arguing with an elementary schooler.

>Yes it was. It also offered gameplay variety.
I can see your POV, but in reality it only amounted in having to backtrack to fetch a barrel. My least favorite bit about it is that while Ellie is in the middle of her "scared" animation, you become vulnerable underneath too, dying from landing on top an enemy. It doesn't make sense in the context of the established game world rules.

>>1244372
Yeah I don't understand the Ellie bashing, either. I thought the Ellie levels were cute. I loved how the animals had a bigger role in DKC2, and I'm glad they continued their presence in DKC3.

>>1241127
The music did that to me too.

>>1244374
There's no need for exclusion, both SMB3 and SMW deserve mention when it comes to tightly controlled controlled precision gameplay. SMB3 had more challenging level designs, taking better advantage of the level of control the player is given over Mario, but World isn't lacking in implementation. There's a reason why there are so many difficult hacks available.

It took me years to figure out.

Shameful.

>>1242185
>But you're still playing the same game. You're playing football.

Nothing to do with whatever conversation you got goin on, but by this logic any sequel that isn't a completely different genre of game would be a rehash. And since DKC2 and 3 are the same genre, by your own definition of the word they would be rehashes. While it might be hard to draw the line between rehash and sequel, you just can't label all sequels as rehashes just for being of the same genre.

All the same, the guy calling DKC a rehash series was probably trolling you, please stop responding.

>tfw trying to double jump but failing

>>1244963

>>1244425
Not really shameful, as this game isn't as easy as its graphics would indicate

Pretty much every level in Castlevania 3 after the halfway point.

>>1241834
BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBITONPMOMBBATTATOMBTOMB

I haven't been able to past the Wood Golem in Popful Mail.

>>1247218
You know you can stunlock him if you get behind him, right? Lots of bosses freeze up if you stand in the right place and mash. It's disgusting.

The PCE version has you running up its extended arm to stab it in the face. It's amazing.

>>1241834
Even with game genie that game is still impossible.

>>1241834
>Play TMNT as a kid
>Get to dam section
>Fly through it, no problem
>Proceed to spend the good part of the next four months figuring out what I need to do
>Finish game, it was weird as hell
>Decades later
>Be on internet
>Find out the dam level is apparently impossibly hard
>Go back, play it again
>Still easy as shit

Why does everyone have a problem with this level? Do you all have hand spasms or something?

>>1242624
this. pretty much everything after that is downright bullshit. level 3 is a huge maze that gives you no clue where to go. also has the infamous gap that makes everyone rage. level 4 is an even worse maze and my god those sewer parts. after spending probably the best years of your youth figuring out the right path, level 5 is a fucking russian roulette with much stronger enemies than before (dat porcupine). then that motherfucking level 6 is YET ANOTHER maze, no map and that super faggot with the jetpack and laser gun. stockpile on the superweapon beginning at level 3 or you are fucked.

i can beat the game blindfolded today but it took me ELEVEN years to do it the first time

>>1247393
it's fine after you figure out the best path and the crawlspace segment isn't terrible if, you know, you change to a healthy turtle midway through it. the problem is you have two minutes or something to do all that try doing it knowing zero english. also those vines that instantly kill you, mothercukers.

>>1247410
You had to switch turtles? I'm not trying to be pompous ass here, but I can do the dam level getting hit maybe twice on a bad day.

>>1242473
It has nothing to do with difficulty, as 3 is easier than 2 and 1. It added unnecessary bullshit that bogged down the gameplay.

Why do people hate Kiddy Kong?

>>1247417

Remember that level where you're in purple water, and the controls are reversed for 90% of the level?

Also, maybe it's just me, but I think 3 was shorter than the first two games.

>>1241289

Web Woods is easy. But it is rather long, and it tries one's patience waiting on slow cannonballs to get to bonus rooms.

>>1247416
you don't HAVE to but the option is always there. i can beat the game easily but it is was much harder when i was a kid, knew zero english and didnt have the fast thinking i have today.

>>1243138

Don't venture too far from the middle. The rest is just timing when to dodge and later jump once you're past that point. There's little margin for error. Or just say "Fuck it!" and try to reach the warp to the river level instead of passing the final section and playing in the ice level.

cranky for age

>>1247418
Because babbies are ugly, and he's fat and slow on top of being one.

For those of you who don't know how to play Solomon's Key:

You are the green dude in the top.
Your mission is to get to the exit (or on this level, the book in the center).
You do this by breaking or creating brown blocks with your wand.
Grey blocks are indestructible.
You have somewhere around 3 minutes to solve this puzzle.
Again, grey blocks are indestructible.
Also, you have no weapons on this stage.
After 50+ stages, this is the first and only stage to introduce 2 new game-changing mechanics without saying what they are, or even hint at them being introduced.

>>1241834