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Sega Genesis/ Megadrive Sound (...) Sat Nov 30 01:52:23 2013 No.1234157 [Reply] [Original]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how great music for the Genesis was? Games like Earthworm Jim, The Ooze, and Sonic Spinball had music that actually benefited from being on the Genesis, and wouldn't have been as good otherwise. Sure, the snes had great sound, but it was much better at "bright" sounding stuff whereas the Genesis was better at "dark". Any thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:12:23 2013 No.1234192 Genesis sound card was pretty shitty, but yeah, it had some good tunes. Probably in spite of that, though, not by virtue of it.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:16:52 2013 No.1234197

>music that actually benefited from being on the Genesis
Please stop this nonsense, the Genesis was mostly LIMITED by its failure to adopt DSP when not only the arcade industry had embraced it but consoles were catching on too. It had a fast sound chip, but that's about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:19:22 2013 No.1234202 FM synthesis has much potential, but in the wrong hands it rapes your ears. Unlike samples or subtractive synthesis (NES, C64 etc.), it takes quite a bit of skill to make good sounding instruments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFv00PegJg

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:28:53 2013 No.1234221 File: 558 KB, 1280x720, 1366905842832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >talk of great Genesis music >citing Sonic goddamn SPINBALL as an example of this

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:30:52 2013 No.1234226 Obligatory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-B3Q0cRrY

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:36:22 2013 No.1234230 >>1234221 What? Sure it was bastard hard and bullshit at times, but Sonic Spinball is legit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:36:22 2013 No.1234231 >>1234221 The level music was pretty good. The options music was pure earcancer though.

>>	Sega Genesis/ Megadrive Sound (...) Sat Nov 30 02:39:24 2013 No.1234246 >>1234231 Amen to that!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:46:25 2013 No.1234258 >>1234197 Yeah, no. In 1988 most arcade games were using YM2203/YM2151 and occasionally a PCM chip with a Z80 as a sound mpu. Sound familiar? The main design flaw was using a serial bank register for streaming PCM data through the Z80.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:47:54 2013 No.1234261 File: 50 KB, 300x309, No.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1234230 >pinball game >30hz

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:48:24 2013 No.1234265 >>1234226 Why is SoR2 music so good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDMRdyUOpYQ

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:51:54 2013 No.1234273

>>1234258
>1988
I actually wasn't aware the Mega Drive launched that early. Still you would never find a game sound like this on it. The SNES could at least make an admirable attempt thanks to its forward-thinking inclusion of DSP. Around 1990 or so or even the late '80s, arcade developers had definitely starting taking advantage of DSP for audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8aZtNfGQ0k

Polite sage, don't really want to start a platform war.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:29:54 2013 No.1234342 >>1234273 forgot your sage, LM

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:42:24 2013 No.1234357 I'm a huge fan of the SNES soundchip but what Sega game that stands out for me is Streets Of Rage 2. The sound on that game is amazing , really showed what the megadrive could do

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:42:24 2013 No.1234358 >>1234261 Your fedora is showing, how is that even relevant?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:43:24 2013 No.1234361 >>1234342 >>1234273 Announcing sage is bannable now and sage is invisible.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:50:24 2013 No.1234380
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>>1234273
>Undercover Cops - Northern Barramundi
excellent taste

and also, totally agree with you, having this kind of quality on the megadrive would send manufacturing costs through the roof. I'm happy with what we have though. I love how devs always paired the YM2151 up with something like the OKI or a proprietary chip for sound playback because 2151 didn't have any.

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=566
http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=747

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 08:31:11 2013 No.1234667

>>1234192
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9WzrJ5OyWA

But even when it's not pushed to the absolute limit like that video the sound card was really damn good. The issue was devs were just too fucking lazy and usually did half assed conversions of the SNES version making the music sound bad. Most of the really good Genesis music is on the games either developed originally on the console and ported to others or is a Genesis exclusive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 08:34:12 2013 No.1234671 >>1234358 Because I don't want to be watching a juddering ball the whole time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 08:44:11 2013 No.1234680 >>1234157 >muh grimdark sega and kid-friendly nintendo It's 2013 Anon, let go off that "Nintendo didn't have mature X" shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 10:47:34 2013 No.1234860 Love that first stage music in Battletoads & Double Dragon.

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