/vr/ - Retro Games

Oh, and also 88alice did this too.

Sauce of OP's pic

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17259

This, my friends, is how you do city maps. Oh, and yes, it is fucking Boom-compatible.

Stay alert because this motherfucker is filled with tiny but clever references. If there was a chance to nominate a single WAD as the fucking WAD of the year, this one must take the prize

>reposting
Remeber the hell map on DooM E2? there is a mountain that looks like a giant buried cacodemon

what if that giant buried cacodemon is the real monster from DnD that inspired the cacodemon
>Pain elemental+cacodemon spawn shot
>blasts are as powerful as Baron of hell blasts
>considering SCIENCE that thing has mech parts and it has revenant weapons and plasmagun from DooM 64 spiders[the ones that shot dual plasmablasts]
>when he dies he explodes like a BFG blast then spawns like 200 lost souls

>>1221953
>mountain that looks like a giant buried cacodemon
What?

>>1222023
See
>>1219839

>>1222051
I don't see it. Is it one of the ''skulls''?

>>1222058

>>1222061

>>1222063
that's quite the deformed cacodemon.

>>1222061
???

>>1222106
I don't see it either.

What's the best way to play doom on a touch acreen phone?

All the android clients I've tried have sucked ass. Just looking to do some Doom on my breaks at work.

I'm planning a Rip 'n Tear 'n Drinkan' night with some friends.
What are some good "classic" feeling multiplayer maps/wads?

>>1222219
Bluetooth controller?

>>1222230
kama sutra. when you get to map30 you'll be drunk enough to all jerk off together.

>>1222230
Scythe 1 and 2

>>1222232
Unfortunately not at the moment. Shopping around for one, but haven't been satisfied with what I've been seeing. Just want a key chain one with enough buttons for SNES emulation. That should be fine for doom as well.

>>1222247
Have you considered the Wii mote?
I use it for GB/C emulation on my phone and it's nice and portable.
Also if I can lug it around, dat classic pro controller.

>>1222252
I have used one in the pass and it does work great. But I think I'd get yelled at if I had a sizable/recognizable controller at work :p

Graveyard helphelp desk. Sometimes I can go for 30-60 mins without a call. Been burning the time playing final fantasy 3, but god damn, I need to mix some doom in to keep me awake over the night.

What's the difference between GZDoom and ZDoom?

Some really early-ass work on Samsara's bloodyhell3. Needless to say, a couple of the sprites still need tweaking and I need to make new gibpiles/bloodsplats.

>>1222286
OpenGL

>>1222286
GZDoom has an OpenGL renderer that can do some things ZDoom's software renderer can't, i.e. 3D slopes, dynamic lights, and truecolor sprites/textures.

>>1222289
Oh, and here's a close-up explosion.

>>1222290
>>1222296

So, GZDoom is better?

Thanks

>>1222303
if you like pretty things, yes.

What's a super kawaii uguu WAD?

>>1222314
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=6385

>>1222349
that's me

DOOM will be 20 years old the December 10th

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR YOUR HERO?

I'm gonna play DOOM 1, DOOM 2, TNT and Plutonia

:: [BE] New York :: /vr/ Scythe 2 : Fractal Doom Test Survival

Get in here if you want to help test new version of zandronum Fractal Doom

NEW FEATURES:

--No crashes (hopefully)

>>1222375

I was planning on releasing the next build of Samsara then, but FAT CHANCE OF THAT~

>>1222319
I'm also going to be trying this one, wish me luck :3

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=6479

>>1222349
>Grandpa is WASDing

>>1222430
I'm trying to run this WAD in Zandronum and it spits out:
R_InstallSpriteLump: Bad frame characters in lump CREDIT

How do I fix this?

I dont play multiplayer so I was wondering, is Stronghold played that much?

I thought it's singleplayer was really fun.

>>1222609
Actually back then the default controls were the arrow keys. I had a rough time switching from arrow keys to WASD, I finally made the switch around 1999, up until then I reconfigured all the new FPS games back to the old arrow key standard.

Normally I'd put up a separate thread, but I don't want to clutter up the board. Does anybody know of any good horror WADs?

>>1222642
That's different things to different people. You want like jumpscare type stuff? Creepy foreboding? Shoot em up action but somewhere spooky like?

Off the top of my head I can think of Cold as Hell, Ghouls Forest, Unloved and City of the Damned II but there would also be others.

>>1222626
Stronghold is mostly paired with Samsara, and it's stupidly fun.

>>1222303
If your graphics card can handle it.

>>1222684
Given how Stronghold has its own weaponry and whatnot, how well does Samsara actually blend with it?

>>1222430
>As of right now, it looks like DiC isn't making any more new Sailor Moon episodes for North America. Also, it is going off the air this fall. There is, however, still hope as long as there are fans. Please show your support for Sailor Moon and visit: http://deadsite.lel/

Oh, 1996.

>>1222684
>Samsara and Stronghold

Damn, that would be fun.

I want to make a WHILE(statement)OR(other statement) loop in ACS. It doesn't seem to recognize "or" like it does for example "else", so what should I put instead?

>>1222747
goodnight sweet mini-doomguys ;_;7

>>1222696
there's a samsara compatability wad.

>>1222740
while(statement || statement){

>>1222805
while(slotlist[7][0] != 0 || topleftitem+scaninstance 512)
{

Gives me a " missing '(' " error. What'd I do wrong?

>>1222809
Nevermind I'm a retard.

Dude, I forgot how much fun Doom was until I started rocking out on some Brutal Doom. I remember back in like 95 when I saw a shareware version of this gem. It blew my fragile little mind in turn making me the sick fuck that I am today,Thank you I.D. Software. I look back on that shits and I remember being able to look up in games back then was a huge deal. You had a lot of guess work on how the projectile was gonna react to the environment. Now that you can use your mouse to look anywhere you want equaled mind blown for me.

Did anybody else ever play Psychophobia?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/psychophobia

I cant even remember how I found it, it was certainly very unique. The 3D monsters you see in the screenshots dont actually appear unless you're using Risen or something.
It was really different but in a good way.

Doomworld being based again

Someone discovered a site with early concepts for the Doom movie. How old are they, who knows...

And the last one.

Sauce: http://firstpersonshooters.net/Games/-=franchise=-/Doom/Movie/index.html

>>1222902
>>1222898
>>1222895
>>1222893
>>1222892
>>1222891

wow. Was there anything involved with id that didn't take a 180 turn ?

>>1222891
>>1222892
>How old are they, who knows...

Well the cyberdemon looking one would say to me it predates widespread CGI usage.

>>1221886
>Kakopafue

hey guys. I'm making /g/.wad.

check it out here

>>>/g/38288359

>>1222932
a few pics

>>1222932
Show them /tg/.wad and /pol/.wad too.

>>1222935

Hah.
>>1222936

>>1222936
I'm not the guy that made pol.wad, I don't know if he's the same one that made tg.wad.

another fun part: bitcoin.
>you change the price
>graph changes
>the investors below flip shit

you can enter threads and post /g/ copypasta.

>>1222940
pol.wad guy is Scroton, who made Fractal. /tg/.wad guy hasn't been around lately.

then they all kill each other

"the catalog"

the thinkpad actually turns on and can type things to you

> tfw everything already was made for Doom
> you will never play a innovative wad anymore

;_;

>>1222936
Is /tg/.wad any good?

So, when you think of /v/, what is the first thing that appear in your head?

I need infos for a possible /v/.wad

>>1222963

>tfw everything already was made for Doom

Not really. Rest your head for at least 30 mins and I'm dead sure you can come up with something unique

>>1222972
The word "shill"

>>1222972

>what is the first thing that appear in your head?

Hell.

There's no objections for this. /v/.wad must take place on Hell or it won't be /v/.wad at all

I would personally include Episode 3 nods all over the motherfucker.

>>1222972

>>1222963
Pokemon/DQM-style Doom.

we should really go to /v/ and ask them personally how should their wad look like.

also I would go for multiple maps instead of just one. there's so many topics and situations that relate to /v/ in one way or another that there's no way that we could put them in a single one without butchering 'em

>>1222972
https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1206773/#1208578

>>1222983
Bad news, anon.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27649

>>1222963

Here, feel free to take my ideas

>Pinball Doom
>Chess game
>Simon Says

>>1222936
There's a tg.wad?

>>1222963
2hu doom.

>>1222984
>Touching that fucking shithole

I'd rather visit Somalia.

>>1223001

>that feel when clicking /v/ by accident and/or to read their opinion on earth-shattering news

also, holy shit I won't get tired of this gif

>>1222963
Doom Kart

My dream...

>>1222978
>Hell.

This is a nice idea.

And then put fans of companies and games in the middle of it

Of course, enemies can only infight if they are rivals, like Nintendrones vs Sonydrones

Report and ignore.

>>1223030

>Of course, enemies can only infight if they are rivals, like Nintendrones vs Sonydrones

you know too damn well they all be infighting eachother, no matter their alignment.

oh - one more thing, just for /vr/. there will be a secret level that you could call /vr/.wad. basically it is a remake of D2M1 but with zdoom effects and 3D floors, etc. it will make fun of "doom purityfags" who want to keep the game shitty and like it was in 1993.

>>1223037
>D2M1

dwango2 map01?

>>1223030
Better yet: it will be raining shit over hell

Like, drops of brown liquid

And instead of lava you will have pools of shit

>>1223037

>who want to keep the game shitty

look, I may play Doom with gameplay mods but I must declare that what you said is just an opinion.

You just can't beat the vanilla feeling.

>>1223024
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37959
get fucked

>>1223041
doom 2 map 01.

basically it will go like this
>ah good old doom shitty and just like it was in 1993, I'm such an oldfag
>kills first two zombiemans and turns corner
>hallway is a slope
>"WHAT THE FUCK"
>the doom purityfag disagrees with the slope being there and cannot continue with the level even though he has already downloaded the engine and wad

>>1223047
it's just like quake luddites too
>THIS .BSP DOESNT WORK IN QUAKE AS IT WAS, U NEED A LIMIT REMOVING ENGINE, ITS 2013 BUT I STILL USE 1997 QUAKE.EXE
looks like that levels gonna troll /vr/ good

>>1223047
> You just can't beat the vanilla feeling.
Yes you can.

>>1223030
>>1222978
>>1222991
>E3M1 start
>press the button
>takes you up to the console warzone
>"objective: find video games"
>armed with only a pistol that shouts "reported" when fired
>doesn't actually kill anything though
>red, green and blue plasma flying everywhere
>suicide bombers screaming "PS4 HAS NO GAAAAAMES"
>sage bombers flying overhead, dropping GET bombs
>these bombs each have a unique number on them
>when they land, they call out a number
>if the number on the bomb ends in the same one called by the bomb, massive explosion, otherwise dud
>one peaceful area amidst all the chaos
>but there's no video games to be found there
>after making it out of the console warzone with no video games, you must press on into the feel thread swamp in the hopes of there being video games on the other side
And that's all I've got.

Here's a concept for the enemies

>Lower tier
Your usual set of fanbois, they could be poorly drawn MSPaint dudes with pistols, same values as a SS Nazi. The only difference between 'em is some palette colors and nothing else
>Mid tier
They're as enormous as your generic Wolf3D boss. Maybe we can pick Hans Grosse and just palette-swap him and add some bits here and there.
>Mid-top tier
Brute force, but slow as hell, they could provoke infight even between their own class.

And then the bosses....but I'm running out of ideas for this

>>1223080
Where's the Gaben?

>>1222991
>The first response gets deleted even though it fits in with how /v/ sees some femnazi
why is this?

>>1222991
> think the main theme should be the 3 console manufacturers having a war and PC mustard race being in there somewhere, probably mocking too. It all has to be a parody using the worst possible stereotypes. There also needs to be a division for handhelds. It shouldn't be just for contemporary systems, but everything, or at least from the NES and up. The idorts would be in some kind of nirvana/paradise-like area. Key people of the industry need to be in somehow like Reggie, Kaz, Ballmer, Romero, Carmack, Miyamoto, Kojima, Sakurai etc. In-references for each game community like Ridley being too big, Megaman being dead, farting Bianca etc. and of course, huge guts. Lots of decorate and xwe meddling here and there.
seems like this should be it but it looks like way too much effort.

>>1223086
Mods want that shit to stay in the containment board.

>>1222963
Are you having a laugh?
There are heaps of ideas, what were you even looking for?

We want somewhere where we can kill shit up in a different number of settings. Though it's not just that, it's how the fights flow as well.

Were you wanting to just make a map to kill things in or some kind of gameplay WAD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF2jR3VFcDk

huheuheuahe

Has anyone made a 1st person flight sim in Doom? It's one of the few things I've never seen.

>>1223091
Ah seems reasonable I guess, but it still represents the board

>>1223083

now here's the deal

One of the ideas people threw two thread earlier was the concept of /v/.wad involved around "rescuing POWs and bringing 'em up back to /vr/"

So the first map consists of getting into the center of the shitstorm to help some comrades, once we're in that base, we must defend it from randomized swarms of consolefags.

Now, here's the deal. Once the invasion ends, PCfags will gather around us, first of all offering themselves to help us and give us enough ammo to manage to get outside that shithole. But then once we (as players) are about to clean the main pathway to the exit, a stress call from our previously rescued friends from the "master race" base telling us to go back because things got nasty in there

>>1223113

*we receive a stress call

And also

>because things got nasty in there

the explanation being that there's some cultists gathered around a temple (although I must admit that I'm personally so fucking sick of temples in Doom WADs) trying to offer our friends in sacrifice to "Lord Gaben"

Naturally all dem bustas are infected with the sickness commonly called "de gay"

>>1223107
It's nice to see that even someone dumb enough to think the gta4 shotty is good places the doom ssg in first. Even when that ain't doom 2

>>1223080

>they could be poorly drawn MSPaint dudes with pistols

like this?
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=720336#p720336

The palette swaps are done already. I only need /doom/'s consensus to keep this as enemies

I played the /pol/ wad again and I have to say, I get the feeling the author has made other maps in the past.

It's fine (even kinda cool) if he wants to remain anonymous but there are some tricks in there that would take a while to learn for somebody who has just made their first level.

If I want to use cool videogame music in a WAD I make how do I go about getting it?

I can see good OST's (and even remixes of doom songs) on youtube but I dont want to take them out and turn them into mp3's and put them into my map because of filesize.

Take quake music for example.

>>1223170
That's really the only way.

either that or you could pick a simple midi or tracker module to use then host an alternate file with the other music as an optional download

>>1223173
Fug, fine whatever.
Mp3 in the file it is. It's only a few meg.

>>1223170

turn 'em intop OGGs, they're way smaller compared to MP3s and if you don't care THAT much for quality you can degrade 'em to 22kbps monoaurals

>>1223190

import dem files in audacity

>>1223189
I'm familiar with OGG files, but how do I turn Mp3's into OGG?

>>1223191
I have audactiy, I wont try this now as I'm about to go but if it works then thanks in advance.

It is as simple as
>drop mp3 into audacity
>convert to OGG
>done
?

Is there any drop in quality?

How come no one mentioned Grezzo 2 in the list? It's a huge Italian mod, but fuck it who cares about language anyway

Also, samsara server anytime soon?

>>1223196

the quality is the same as it came from the MP3, if I were you I would get the FFMpeg codec to import audio directly from the MP4 youtube video.

>>1223204
>FFMpeg codec

Is this some application that I run over a youtube video? Link?

>>1223246

eh? No, just read this

http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/faq_installation_and_plug_ins.html#ffdown

>>1223263
Oh right, I see
Well, thanks chap.

A little late but here is the Samsara survival section of the fun we had 2 days ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M10v8UYFPJ8

>>1223204
If you want Vorbis audio from a Youtube video, just download the WebM version and drop the video. Unless the AAC version is significantly higher quality.

> you will never be satisfied with your map

>>1223294
>tfw can't map and even if I could it would suck

This author has done a shitload of music for doom.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWeekle

I wish he'd put it all into a WAD file.

>>1223073
> one peaceful area amidst all the chaos

This area should have porn.

>>1223294
>>1223304
>did every doombuilder 2 tutorial
>didnt make anything

Now I'm learning it all again because I've finally got inspiration.

>>1223312
>I wish he'd put it all into a WAD file.
It's pretty easy to do so yourself though.

Anyway, has anyone else listened to this?
>http://doom.ocremix.org/main.html
They're not remakes of the soundtrack as much as they're dark electronica inspired by it. E1M6, E1M3 and E1M8 are some of the best.

>>1223328
>>http://doom.ocremix.org/main.html
I remember listening to that stuff a few years back. It's really been a while.

> All this talk about the /v/.wad

People should make multiple maps and then a votation should decides what map is better

Or just put all the maps in the same wad.

>>1223328
>The Dark Side of Phobos

I've already got them all on my computer, some are good but others are just terrible. The intermission springs to mind, I thought they were joking.

>>1223276
Cool, thanks for that.

Thanks to you and the other fellow for recommending these things, g2g now though I'll check them out later.

>>1223335
Yeah, some are shit. Most tribute albums are like that.

>>1223349
I think many of the other remixes of doom music have been quite good.
Youtube has plenty of decent remixes/tributes that stay true to the original music.

Quake 1's music was really damn good I think.
Great dark ambiance music, rivals that of Doom 64 and PSX.
>Quake 1's textures also go really well with DOOM

On music though, I just found this.

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Unused_Doom_music
http://planetromero.com/2007/06/doom-archaeology

Well damn.

>>1223073
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbAHQIVC5rg

>terminus is off playing terrashit and pretending to ape brutal doom instead of making another fucking character
Ffs

>>1223403

Bobby did some mean ripoffs of many songs that never made it into the game. He even managed to get perfect MIDI renditions of many songs.

>>1223515
>terminus is off playing terrashit

clearly this is ijon's fault

>>1223515

>stalking his tumblr

how low can you get?

Left one is a mock-up overlay on an clear screenshot, right is the current functional version.

>>1223553

noice

>>1223532
>tumblr
HA HA OH WOW
I KNEW HE WAS A SHITTY FEMINIST BUT GOD DAMN

Report and ignore

>>1223403

Boner, pls.

>>1223553
Vastly prefer the left one.

>>1222932
>>1222937
>>1222932

Are you the guy that needed gentoochan?

If you're not him, I started making an install gentoo neckbeard enemy as per his specifications but then stopped when he disappeared off the face of the earth. I can start working on it again if you think you would use it.

>>1222945
Yup, speaking of which there's been a bunch of updates for anyone that missed it, I posted them on here but threads not permanent so here's a link: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37815

Also /tg/.wad guy made projectILE, which is in the /vr/ wad pastebin.

Double also, if /tg/.wad guy is reading this, someone ripped spacehulk resources which you could use for your updated w/ custom resources version of /tg/.wad you said you were making:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=37544&p=723146&hilit=space+hulk#p723146

>>1223559
Coding is hard as balls. I've never done it before. Decided to use ACS for everything, cant be bothered with inventory checks and state jumps.

>>1223596
The right one looks like shit because I've not done anything but the bare minimum with the visuals. Eventually it'll be a nice mahogany finish with buttons that look like they're carved into the wood, along with brass trim on edges and such.

>>1223403
>MFW I find myself gently caressing her bare cameltoe with my mouse pointer, imagining her squirming around as I do so

>>1223598
>but then stopped when he disappeared off the face of the earth
He clearly couldn't handle the division of labor.

>Learning how to doombuilder
>Try to modify the light of a sector
>error
System.NullReferenceException: Referencia a objeto no establecida como instancia de un objeto.
en CodeImp.DoomBuilder.Controls.FieldsEditorControl.Apply(UniFields tofields)
en CodeImp.DoomBuilder.Windows.SectorEditForm.apply_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
en System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
en System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
en System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
en System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
en System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
en System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
Any ideas? maps with only a light level and two textues would be pretty shitty

>>1223649
You're using the latest version of Doom Builder 2 right? That's a weird error.

>>1223654
Yep, just downloaded and installed.

>>1223140

No, it's my first map. I'm also not really anonymous, I have accounts on zdf and sand that I act retarded with and sometimes post updates about my other project. I learned the stuff in the map by googling stuff and reading the zdoom wiki and bugging people in irc and a LOT of trial and error.

Though it is worth noting that I played zdoom with pwads for years and years before I ever posted anywhere about it or tried making my own maps. Most of the stuff I did in that map I saw elsewhere first or saw something similar elsewhere first. You can also see my mapping skill increase throughout the map; I did detail fixes to the swamp and tunnel to the red key room second to last before release and the secret areas in the yellow key room and the ITS HAPPENING sequence were both the last things completed before release.

I probably would have made a simpler first couple of maps if I hadn't started with a specific idea in mind, but instead just reworked portions of that one as I learned more since it's not like I could release a series of pol maps, I only had one shot at it. It actually started as a simple startan room with a test to see if a happening meter could work and grew from there.

The point of posting this isn't to say "I'm so great because this is my first map" but rather that anyone can do that level of quality (which isn't amazing or anything) right off the bat because I'm nothing special.

>>1223080
>>1223073
>>1223036
>>1222991
>>1222972

Here is the start of a possible enemy for /v/. I didn't make it it's just a.gif I saw on /v/ and saved because it had rotations.

Also, while I don't have a wad yet, I know exactly how to make a fully working Mr. Bones' Wild Ride in zdoom. It will look better with seat and coaster car voxels but those aren't necessary. I could definitely make a Mr. Bones' Wild Ride map portion for whoever ends up making or being in charge of (if it's a map with multiple authors) the /v/.wad

>>1223037

It already exists, there's a doom2 partial remake iirc.

It's pretty silly, but the detail is definitely over the top.

Guys, I'm confused. GZDoombuilder keeps saying there's an error with my map, but as far as I can tell the DECORATE it's complaining about is fine, and the map runs perfectly in GZDoom. Is this something I should be concerned about, or is GZDoombuilder just being weird?

>>1223702
Are you loading gzdoom.pk3 by default in db2? IIRC that's where decorate classes are declared in the first place.

>>1223705
I...don't know. How would I check that?

>>1223714
Go to this menu and see to it that gzdoom.pk3 is in the automatic loadlist

>>1223726
Nope.

>>1223730
Try adding it and see what happens.

>>1223731
That seems to have fixed it. Thanks! This actually might explain why some of my earlier stuff didn't work...

Anyone have the QuakeCon.wad they used for the QuakeCon Doom tournament? I like the selection of maps and yes, while they can be found on most zandronum duel servers, I just particularly like that rotation of maps and would like to play them with my friend.

>>1223740
Wait no, the previous in-editor error is gone, but now testing the map gives me this error. Even though I can still run the WAD fine outside of it.

Have I just completely forgotten to install some stuff? I've just been using GZD out of the box without really fiddling with the settings much...

>>1223752
Try changing the order your wad files are loaded. Might be a problem there maybe?

>>1223748

the quakecon staff promised to share the demos of the finals and, welp, you're expecting 'em to share the WAD itself?

I loved the original Unloved WAD, and I'm playing through Unloved 2 at the moment with Brutal Doom.

Unloved 2 is a great candidate for the Cacowards.

>>1223759
Doesn't seem to change anything.

>>1222375
Probably thinking about my 20th birthday seven days ago and how no one but me gave a shit about it.

>>1223761
I suppose that was an expectation, yes.

>>1223765
Erm

Resource options > check "preclude this from yadda yadda" on gzdoom.pk3

>>1223780
...I feel like this should have been obvious. That fixed it, sorry.

>>1223763
>Unloved 2
What?

So whats the current go to techdemo wad with ALL the goddamn bells and whistles current sourceports can manage?

Actual gameplay optional.

>>1223801
There's not really a single one with everything. Personally I'm most interested in 3D polyobjects if that's ever going to exist.

>>1223801
Soulcrusher, I believe.

>>1223748
You could just load up those .wads and set the server's rotation to play on them

Hosting Samsara TDM on UDMX. It'll be tons of fun.

Hostname: /vr/ Samsara TDM - Can't keep a good man down
Password: there's not one because most people on here make things for doom instead of playing it. Not that I have a problem with it or anything.

Y'all should c'mon and join the fun!

>>1223553
Wat is dis.

>>1223872
My try at making a sierra type point-and-click adventure game in doom. You walk around, explore shit, solve puzzles, and enjoy the scenery.

Just passed the first level of that Hellbound wad. That was some shit.

>>1223937
>the first level

it hasn't even begun, son

What are the best Chex wads?

>>1222937
Dem textures

tfw if I play doom for about half an hour I start to get motion sickness (?).

>>1223981
Reduce movebob? change fov? use windowed?

>>1223981

open console
type "movebob 0"

welcome 2 doom

>>1223785
its fairly old, no one seemed to like it that much, from what i remember

>>1223986
>>1223985
>movebob

That actually helps, I think. I'm not sure since I just finished playing it like a minute ago but I started again and I did feel a little better.

I'll try to play again for a long time later to see if the hand movement was the cause of it. I think it would be pretty funny if It was.

What would a Metal Slug wad be like?

>>1223994

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjxx7vr9TA

Blame deathz0r for being a lazy ass faggot and never continuing this

>>1224001
that's so cool

>>1224001
>>1224001
>deathz0r

Fuck, I meant Rottking

>>1223992
It's not the movement of the hand, it wiggles the entire screen.

>>1223975
Chex Quest 3.

And...

...Chex Quest 3.

>>1222996
I forgot to append this with a "Where?".

So, tg.wad where?

>>1224006
Oh yeah. Didn't actually notice that.

>>1224016
It's one of those things where you don't realize how annoying it is until you've gotten rid of it. Viewbob wasn't half as annoying in quake 3.

>BE SUPERDEMONZ server with a gorillion people
What's with all the people?

>>1224001
Goddamn that would be awesome.

>>1224043
Oh it's another boss mod. Nothing that interesting besides people shitflinging about megaman.

Why in the fucking world, does Steam have all the Doom games from 2 on up? Why don't they offer the first Doom?

>>1224208
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/
u wot m8

>>1224208
>He doesn't know about The Ultimate Doom

>>1224213
Hmmm, okay Fuck me, I didn't know Ultimate was the first. Guess I just thought Doom 1 would be called... Doom

I bought Quake 3 Arena the other day on Steam. I've been having fun playing it...are there any people here who play online? I'd like to do some 1v1's, but most of the servers are filled with bots.

>>1224227
Another, possibly stupid question, is there a WAD like Brutal Doom for any of the Hexen games?

>>1224227
It was.

Ultimate Doom is Doom with all 4 episodes.

ahem...

>>1224238
There's a Brutal Hexen, but it sucks and isn't being worked on. Hexercise does an excellent job of rebalancing the game and making things generally more enjoyable without resorting to any cop-outs like guns.

I'm finally done with my very first mini .wad & need to upload it. What upload/download site should I use? What Doom related forum should I post it on? Is there anything else I should do besides describe the .wad & have pictures of it? Thanks in advance.

>>1224260
Mediafire.

>>1224260
>my very first mini .wad

Anywhere but do not post it on the most common forums, Doomworld included.

Either put it on mediafire and/or dropbox or something.

>>1224372
What's wrong with the "popular" forums?

>>1224380
Because four czan is muh sekrit klub!!!1

Hmmm...

Is there a wad or a weapon pack that has an actual "lasergun", I don't want any kind of railgun like the one in Skulltag or >>1224331

Any ideas?

>>1224380

Nothing, it's just that it is not very recommended to upload "very first .wad" works where you may receive the wrong kind of feedback, specially considering that it is not a good idea to mention it is your first one

Doomworld is a guarantee that they're going to tear you a new one.

>>1224386

wrong answer...

>>1222967
short but cool,however easy if you play with MSX mod

>>1223669
if you want to add the Mr Bones wild ride a la ITS HAPPENING [/pol/ final section]
for the love of god,spawn more than 300 revenants

>>1224390
Understandable. While my .wad isn't some "let's dick around in the editor for 3 hours" work, it's also not the next Sythe or some crap like that. The levels are generally well made, had thought put into them, etc. It just happens to be my first .wad; but I'll avoid mentioning it anyhow. Shall I link a download for it in the general (when I get to that) first?

Not so Doom-related, but someone requested Crash biting her lip in a draw thread

>>>/v/219874405

>played all of the official wads with Russian Overkill
>tried to go back to vanilla wads
>weapons feel shitty
>everything is slow
>nothing explodes
>have magnets on my boots
>no 200 bullets per enemy around the map

how do I go back

>>1224482

thread died, so I'm posting it here

Also check this out. Fucking one after another

>>>/v/219908291
>>>/v/219908301

>>1223785
It was a beta for the sequel.

>>1223989
I thought it was really great, ended on a high note for me. I went down to the area you need all 6 keys to get to and it felt 2spooky but it was unfinished.

Also, I didnt do it with Brutal - sort of preferred that WAD as it was.

>>1224496
Do what I do. Just stay away from Doom anything for a week.

I've become so used to hueg FPS maps now because of playing DOOM, that I feel constrained by everything that isn't a sandbox game/open world.

I'm not sure how to feel about this, Zach.

>>1224840
I don't feel bad about it at all. I just keep downloading map packs. I've got about twenty years worth of backlog to work with. I can even afford to skip all the crappy packs if I just hang around on threads and IRC and just ask for a reccomended one.

>>1224840
Reminds me of this.

>>1224859
The sad part about that is that it's actually true.

>>1224859
While I do know that the level design in Doom and other old FPS games is superior to modern games, one must remember a key part of the old level design.
There was typically one path through it, not including secrets. You had to find the keycards to progress to certain wings and search for the new cards and so on. But there was only one general path through a level.

So in that way, the corridor shooter cut out some of the foreplay. But is it interesting from a gameplay standpoint? Certainly not.

>>1224870
>The sad part about that is that it's actually true.

Actually it's not. The image on the right is fake. One hell of a strawman.

>>1224887

>>1224887
>>1224887

>>1224886
You could sort of do things at your own pace thought without some AI character retard named Sergeant McHugeLarge being like "Go go go! Save Murrika!".

Take this video as an example
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULv6HbgEjY

I think the main issue is taking action away from the player because the game seems to think that if the player has to stop for so much as 5 seconds to wonder what to do then something is wrong.

>>1224891

Totally the same map on the image posted!

>>1224887

>>1224895
this is bait

>>1224903

There's nothing bait about it.

If you want to make an argument against modern FPS games, do so without making crappy false images to do so. If map design is so bad, why didn't the person who made that image use an actual map like he did on the left?

I'm not making an argument that modern FPS games are good (haven't touched them in years because of this) but if you're going to make an argument that's worth a damn, stick to the facts.

Using images like the one posted make you look like a strawmanning retard.

>>1224902
>that reply

They might want to look up player exploration and what it really means. It means more "Oh, some other guys might not have found this but I did".

If you make it THAT linear (because unless you're a fucking moron, you know you can have linear and even more linear) the player is moreso just shown stuff as they go along.

Playing other games though means players might miss some areas others will not because they went out to explore on their own. Part of this is what makes some sandbox games so fun, exploring at your own pace.

So how is this?

>>1224912

I don't much care for people making up stuff to win arguments, so I like this image much better. Too bad it won't get passed around 4chan and used, however.

When you create bullshit for arguments, you end up making your case look worse.

>>1224912
way ahead of you

>>1224916
I've seen the better image before a while back, used a better image and the colors were better. Found it on /v/.

>>1224917
Ah, well there it is.

>>1224917

This is actually even better for sourcing maps.

The original version had a recognized map and something that was clearly made up.

>>1223403
So I just listened to all of these, I must say it's mostly cutting room floor type stuff but there is some stuff in there that has promise.

>>1224897
I completely agree with you, that is definitely an issue. The issues with modern FPS are very numerous. I'm sure this is one of the few things that people from this thread can agree with Total Biscuit about. He's made a few videos about old FPS versus the new style. But I digress.

My main issue is the lack of uniqueness in the guns. Instead of having unique weaponry, many modern FPSes go for many guns that are almost identical. Even though three of Doom's guns were hitscans, they were completely different in their uses and purposes. Four, if you count the SSG.

>>1224932
Yeah, it is what separates Unreal Tournament & Quake 3 games from COD.

In the former 2 you can see the other guy first and they can still win because of so much more maneuverability, "realistic health" is not an issue and the firearms vary widely.

COD is more about seeing the other guy first and not being a complete clutz at aiming.
There *is* strategy involved though if you're actually playing as a team, I'll grand it that.

Though if I want something closer to realism i'll play battlefield or ARMA.

On a side note:
I've got a copypasted reply somewhere of the main diffs between arena shooters and spunkgargleweewee.

>>1224942
Agreed that COD and it's ilk take the worst things from video game and real life combat and adds it together. I think the "seeing the other guy first and not being a complete clutz at aiming" thing isn't inherently bad at all, but it doesn't work at all in Deathmatch, it needs proper objective-based gameplay and maps with as many multiple paths and hiding spots as in real life.

>>1224948
It's just that COD is not even "realistic" at all. I mean, you regenerate in seconds for fucks sake.

I can respect a firefight in ARMA type games because it's trying very hard to be real so it's a different sort of setup. S.T.A.L.K.E.R too.

COD is not that though, it's just this arcade shit that fucks around in the middle and it's got a really slick coat of paint but it's not how firefights go at all. You want things to look a bit more real try having stanima, inability to bunnyhop and knowing that if you die you'll take ages to respawn and be nowhere near the guy that shot you.

>>1224942
I, for one, approve of using Yahtzee's term "spunkgargleweewee" in future reference to all modern FPS, since they are obviously a completely new genre from the old.
As for realism, in my shooters, I tend toward ARMA. Realism can be a great thing to play with in a game. But brown isn't realism, corridor forests aren't realistic, and neither is regenerating health.
>>1224948
The original COD was a great game for its time. Come at me. But somewhere down the line, it changed for the worse. I don't know where.
Overall, I agree on the idea that aiming is the most important part of spunkgargleweewee.

>>1224965
>The original COD was a great game for its time. Come at me.

9 times out of 10, if someone tries to argue against this, they are trying way too hard to fit in.

>>1224965
>>1224954
>>1224948
That got me curious has CoD ever advertised itself as being realistic since the fourth game?

>>1224897
>that last bit on the video

>>1224965
>Yahtzee

I find his personal politics (which he seems to hamfist into things) simple minded and vacuous but he at least knows his way around FPS games.

I was glad too that he mentioned Painkiller, I remember playing it in 2006 and wishing it had gotten more love and now I think it has. He knows what can make games good but you can tell when he does not really give a shit about the game he is playing so for somethings he just does not care and that goes through to the review but then his fanboys defend him as infallible.

That said, I have purchased 2 games in the past based on his praise.

>>1224974
Yes and no.
It does everything to market itself like that without being direct about it. Otherwise it would be instantly compared to ARMA II and eaten alive.

Battlefield while still arcadey is still closer to realism but the thing about ARMA is is has all the real life boredom of standing around for extended periods like a real warzone has.

and then getting shot by some sniper 900m away because you were looking at another screen out in the open

>>1224908

They didn't even say exploration, though it's an easy mistake to make.

They said "player expression" which means fuck all to me. Maybe someone else can parse it.

>>1224985
So they did, I misread that.

But "player expression" is even more vague, you mean like making your own choices?

We've got games for that and bioshock infinite is not that.

>>1224991
>But "player expression" is even more vague, you mean like making your own choices?

>>1224984
I generally dislike his character. I find his reviews are quite crude, though I know that's what he's going for. It might be an issue of taste. But occasionally he's spot on, in his analysis of a game.
>tfw just replaced old chair with new one
>tfw read "made in China" under the seat
hoooo boy. Another two years of fear.
>mfw no Judge Dredd weapon set
Shit son, you could even have the Lawgiver change its munition type for different bullets. The gun has fucking everything. Even excorcism bullets.

>>1224997
>tfw read "made in China" under the seat

Prepare for liftoff.

>>1224984
>BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS.jpg

>>1224897
These things play almost like a rail shooter with more freedom of movement and an utter lack of challenge or obligation besides "move around". 10:35 where the guy was getting in and out of cover like a robot, I found that far funnier than I should've.

>>1225006
They do, the entire time I was reminded of games like "house of the dead" and "time crisis"

>>1224917
Now that's a compelling argument.

I'll go play Call of Dooty and laugh at modern FPSs some more.

Fractal Doom has been updated.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37815

In all versions, the pain elementals now have an alternate rocket lost soul attack, where they fire a fast lost projectile that explodes on contact (like a normal rocket.) They are also shootable. This was done partially to stop the pain elementals from flooding maps with lost souls (since they shoot faster than vanilla, and only have a spawning attack compared to other monsters) and also to change them so that they are not helpless at point blank range. The rocket lost soul attack occurs less frequently than their normal attack and the missiles can be differentiated from normal lost souls by their smoke trails and increased speed.

The zandronum and zdoom versions both have difficulty levels. The zdoom version has 7 difficulty levels and the zandronum version has 5. Details are in the link under the respective downloads.

The performance tweaks in the previous non-crashy zandronum version have been added to the zdoom version as well.

The monster-only version has been split into zdoom and zandronum monster only versions.

Fixed an oversight in both monster versions that caused the player to receive significantly more damage than intended from cacodemon and pain elemental death explosions.

>>1224905
>If you want to make an argument against modern FPS games, do so without making crappy false images to do so.
They might as well be the same, since the maps don't show where the zillion cutscenes happen.

>>1224917
I'm not sure that putting a fanmade mod actually counts.

Put a map from the original 1993 Doom for more emphasis as well.

>>1224997
He said Bayonetta is a ripoff of God of War and he got stuck in Jabu Jabu's Belly, claiming the game had unfair difficulty as well.

He doesn't have a single respectable particle in his being.

>>1225198
I'm >>1224984

He's alright when he seems to give a shit about the review he is giving, you can tell when he *likes* a game he can talk about it's mechanics and the way it works and why he thinks that's good. Sometimes even when he does not like things he can say why but there are other reviews where you know he does not care but still wants to be taken seriously. If he marketed it as "first impressions" he might be better off.

I mean, there is so much that is bad about COD and what it does but for the most part all he can do is have a whine about the crappy story and thinks any game including white protagonists is incredibly racist/xenophobic or whatever other bullshit Kotaku check your privilege garbage he's decided to spout.

Then you point this out and many of his sycophantic followers just go to the extreme and think you're the opposite end of him because if you dont agree with Yahtzee you just mad.
To be honest I feel like he's got some non-white friend who he's desperately trying to impress.

All this said I still tune in when new videos of his come out.

>PS: Jim Sterling still does this too a bit and I still like him

This isn't /v/. Go bitch about (insert internet celebrity here) there.

>>1225198
Sad thing is that he's more respectable than many video game critics. Also when did he say about Jabu-Jabu?

>>1224390
i guess doomcenter's phaser and blasterrifle can both qualify

>>1225246
>baww, dont talk about things i dont like
no

>>1225253
I think he gets the popularity he gets because his videos are very easily digestible.

He talks a lot about there being heaps of jump cuts in modern games and you quickly move from scene to scene but that is exactly what his show does, not a dig on the practice itself but he should at least see how he got so popular.

>>1225238
>privilege
white privilege is genuinely important and it's good that more people are becoming aware of race/gender issues

stop being so contrarian and hard-edged mate, sometimes you just need to accept that the people complaining are complaining for a reason

>>1225273
>white privilege is genuinely important and it's good that more people are becoming aware of race/gender issues

It's the same shit with a new coat of paint, "mate" no need for mansplaining. Anybody who has traveled to different countries would find the majority are favored. Try Saudi, South Korea or especially India.

Privilege is like secularized sin

>vaguely defined
>to be atoned for
>something to monitor your thoughts and actions over
>something to publicly humble or humiliate yourself over
>to encourage recognition of it by everyone
>some believe you are "born with it"
>indulgences can be paid on it
>if you point out it's retarded, you're a sinner or in this case, a racist cis scum

As somebody descended from Irishmen and Slavs, the notion that I'm an evil slaveowner ignorant of history is objectively false at best and the total opposite at worst.

Go to /pol/ if you want to be a race huckster, they love that shit there.

Report and ignore.

>>1225280
>if you point out it's retarded, you're a sinner or in this case, a racist cis scum
how is it retarded to think that certain people have privileges based on their gender or race
it's true
my black mates are treated with much more suspicion that me
men are obviously privileged over women in so many ways

i don't know why these ideas get loads of people so riled up. it's not like anyone is asking you to change from being anything you are, just to be aware of it and hopefully stop people from being treated worse because of their race or gender.

why are you so angry man?

>rip something straight out of realm667
>mucking around with the decorate file
>get in-game
>primary file works fine
>secondary fire doesn't even use up ammo
Is it bad if I was a lazy shit and just completely removed the secondary instead of fixing it?

>>1225273
Please stop trying to turn this in to /v/ you mongoloid. People like you should not be here.

>>1225287
>how is it retarded to think that certain people have privileges based on their gender or race

Because nobody was asked to be born who they were and this facile notion tries to say certain people should feel guilty for existing. It also tries to imply to non-whites in majority white countries that somehow they are inferior and need mighty whitey (in this case you) to step in and be their advocate.

>i don't know why these ideas get loads of people so riled up
>why are you so angry man?

Because it's a thinly veiled argument used by people who are too chickenshit to admit they're racist, like immigration.
So I'm aware of it, what now? Feel guilty everytime some group has a higher per capita crimerate than another?
It tells people what they should think is more important than what they do think.

Type "ashkenazi jewish privilege checklist" into google for a great example of this retarded garbage.

>>1225293
Do not reply. Report and ignore.

>>1225293
>>1225296
I'm >>1225295

Fine, I'll just report it.
I hate how this cancer wants to infiltrate videogames too, reminds me of the scam artist Sarakesian.

>>1225289
Have you made sure it's actually taking ammo every time you fire?
Does it use another ammo source that you have not specified?

>>1225293
i'm not trying to turn this into /v/
i was just responding to him cause he's acting like something that isn't a problem is a problem
sorry that you don't like it though. imo if you're gonna be rude and call people mongloids you should go back to /v/, but it's all good man.

>>1225295
>tries to say certain people should feel guilty for existing
nah it doesn't
you seem to be misinterpreting a lot of stuff people say and acting like it's something else
sorry you're angry about it but as long as you're happy and kind to other people it's all good i hope everything's good with you in general

>>1225293
>Please stop trying to turn this in to /v/ you mongoloid.
Turning this place into /v/ would be perpetuating the anti-feminist edge-culture that has turned /v/ into such a shithole.

>>1225303
I know you're trying to paint yourself as the guy who is calm, collected and reasonable but you really should just keep this cancer of yours in /v/ or /pol/.

Or are you going to whine too that games made by asian people often feature lots of asian people. Or that films made in Turkey feature Turks.
You even frame it like it's a problem, it's a feature of a culture reflecting the majority in a certain piece.

Fuck off, really.
Go to /pol/ and shit up there instead.

Where are the mods?

>>1225313
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>>1225306
>anti-feminist

Feminism poisons literally everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxAljFlb-c

There is a whole series on this cancer, same from AmazingAtheist.
You wont find any converts here, so go back to whatever feminist safespace you came from or get tired and go to bed.

>>1225302
I have no clue how to check for those two things you asked.

>>1225312
report the whining feminist check your privilege shit and they'll arrive if the see enough reports

i wish saged worked

>what I clicked on
/vr/

>what I expected
fun zdoom mods

>what I got
/pol/

>>1225316
Oh cool another /v/shitter

>>1225314
Have you ever coded before?

Like if I was sitting next to you it'd be easy but uh......ok look at the shotgun (just the basic one) and see it's code and try to see what it's saying.

It's really short, you dont have to get aaaall of it but just the basic idea, you'll see the numbers matching the shells going down or whatever.

Then try a similar thing on your new gun.

>>1225319
Again and again, report the shitposters.

>>1225310
aight we disgaree but i dont get why you're so upset with me talking about something you first mentioned mate, it feels like you're upset that someone disagreed with something you were saying

the concept of privilege isn't really related to representation of different races in films and games

but even on that topic it's not really that people are upset about the levels of certain groups in films/games/whatever but how those characters are used

imo the representation of women in games atm is similar in depth to the way you got chinese yellowface characters in older films but that's me

again you are the one that started on this topic so i dunno why you are so angry that it's being discussed

>>1225313
i agree with TAA on a couple of things (talking about porn laws in UK recently) but all the vids of his i've seen on feminism seem to really misrepresent other peoples points to suit his own agenda

will check out the vid you posted later tho thanks

>>1225319
Time to fire up pol.wad again.

>>1225320
>be cancer
>make place cancerous
>act confused when people tell you to fuck off
>shut down and just think the world is nazis

Good job, certainly convinced me with those hot opinions.
Go to /v/ or /pol/ where you belong please.

>>1225316
You are posting off-topic edge-culture.

>>1225326
I liked pol.wad but it really really missed out on the hideous amount of hate/anti-feminism/jew shit you see there.

...that may be a good thing

>>1225260

>i guess doomcenter's phaser and blasterrifle can both qualify

not too convinced with the answer, but I am gonna try and post results

>>1225325
>Have you ever coded before?
N-No. I'll try again though.

hey remember when this thread was about doom

>>1225328
Please, if women were gamers more in the same way that males are then there would be more of them and no more and more mobile gamers does not count.

I remember that image which was a comparison of "male power fantasy" comic book covers and the front covers of womens romance novels and they're the same.

Read that cesspit Kotaku and you'll hear them talking about evil white game designers excluding women and minorities from the workplace. As if Romero and Carmack were turning away black people and women while laughing to themselves while going inside to salute their Hitler statues.

Whine about women not being in games?
Go and fucking make one and support the ones that come out. The entire argument even still implies it's the duty of the white man to make you a game because minorities just seem to lack the ability.

>constantly say anybody who does not agree with you is the personification of evil
>make the same argument over and over

AmazingAtheist and Thunderf00t and basically any other sane youtuber are right, Pat Condell is another example. New feminism and it's cancerous touch are utterly imploding in on themselves and they'll be gone sooner rather than later.

>>1225343
if you're scared go to church

>>1225343
to bring it back to doom, I don't ever remember seeing or dealing with any GUUUURL GAYMURS on any source port's community. after a while there was one but she only admitted it because someone directly asked. and she said that she wouldn't bring it up because she didn't feel she was that different so it wasn't important
>based doom community
I think the closest thing doom has to gurl gaymurs is that quake3 rip of the "crash" character

>>1225343
i get what you are saying, and personally i don't want to see what's in games totally overhauled, or see games made for target audiences that don't exist

but i also don't agree with the argument that having decent female characters in games is something purely for women. as a man i'd rather not feel patronised /w sexy ladies popping up to keep my interest in a non-pornographic game. that shit is boring as fuck and regressive imo.

Why Doom has an inside joke to Usenet, or
How I helped create a cheat key code.

By Seth Cohn (seth@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu)

Doom came out Dec 10th, and first I did was go looking for cheat keys for it.
Didn't find any, but I came close. My brother Dale and I had a funny feeling
(call it a hunch) that somewhere in the game SPISPOPD was embedded. We didn't
find it in the code, but turns it it was there after all.

What is SPISPOPD? Well, to make a long story short, due to all the Doom hype on
the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Usenet newsgroup, someone posted a suggestion
to id that the next game be named something less likely to be used as a subject
header (ala When is DOOM coming out? The DOOM beta is so cool, and the ever
popular DOOM FAQ) They suggested the unlikely name of Smashing Pumpkins into
Small Piles of Putrid Debris. Of course, someone else immediately posted that
they wanted the beta of SPISPOPD and where was it? I joined in the fun, along
with a long list of others and started to DESCRIBE this fictional game. We all
got into the fun, and it was in part a healthy humorous response to the
pressures of such a long wait for Doom.

I probably posted more SPISPOPD stuff then anyone else at first, and when
someone else posted a signature spoofing DOOM FAQ author Hank Leukhart's saying
"SPISPOPD FAQ 1.0 coming soon" I flamed them and stole the idea. I claimed to be
the REAL FAQ author and asked for submissions. I got a number of good ones, and
taking these and all of the posts up to the first mention of SPISPOPD (I saved
them all, think it was a great thread) I created a really funny spoof of the
DOOM FAQ. In the process, id became ego for one reason: I was afraid of getting
sued. I mailed Jay Wilbur and asked what he'd prefer out the range of options
(id was doing SPISPOD, wasn't, etc..) and the only answer I got from him was...
well... I used it as his quote in the FAQ. <Big grin>

>>1225358

I got LOTS of mail including congrats, flames (such as GET A LIFE!), more
submissions, and my favorite, people asking where they could get a copy of the
game.

The best for me was getting a note from David Taylor at id, one of the Doom
coders, saying how much he enjoyed the FAQ. Little did I know...

To make the matter more confusing, a bunch of guys at Cal-poly decided they
liked the idea, and ignoring whatever features they didn't want to write into it
(and I don't blame them... some of the FAQ was truly outlandish), they wrote a
game called SPISPOPD. This game is cute, and using VGA and SB, is actually
playable and well worth downloading. I am amazed they wrote it in 48 hours...

So, I logged on Dec 15th having beaten the game a few times, and lo and behold,
someone has posted the cheat keys, and idspispopd is one of them. Someone
(Patch) suggested I write a little explanation of just how and what SPISPOPD is,
to help all those folks who don't know the inside scoop.

And as Paul Harvey would say, That's the REST of the story....

(I'm also including a copy of the FAQ, posted separately. This is MUCH funnier
if you have a copy of DOOM FAQ 2.X around...)

SOURCE: http://firstpersonshooters.net/Games/-=franchise=-/Doom/1/docs/Doom%20Cheat%20Code%20Origins.html

>>1225349
I'm as atheist as it gets and just before, I mentioned hating askenazi jewish privilege checklists. Of course this is part of your inability to argue because anybody who disagrees is some WASP type.

All I get is Orwellian crimestop one liners.

>>1225351
There was some female pornstar I know of who played heaps of Unreal Tournament. Anyway, many girls just dont like certain games for the same reason many men dont like female romance novels.

It reminds me of those guys who want to say male/female is a social construct. I guess they were away in kindergarten when they were told boys have a penis and girls a vagina.

Or in biol when told males and females are different. Having a womb and heaps more estrogen would certainly make life different.

>>1225361
>anti-semitism
I wish that /v/'s edge-culture would leave /vr/ today, what is going on?

>>1225353
So play as female characters.
I played every fallout game as a woman, because I wanted to see how I was treated as one.

You might believe what you believe but keep in mind that you rub shoulders with a lot of people who just hate white males for whatever dickhead reason they can think of and they blindly, unswervingly actually believe that if you point this out then you're a nazi racist or whatever.
To go back, it's like Yahtzee whining in another review about whites being so privileged blah blah blah, like I go out everyday laughing at non white people or that I invisibly took from them while my ancestors were getting murdered by Russian Tzars.

They're currently deporting non whites by the tens of thousands in Saudi Arabia as you read this. Enslaving many of them in Qatar as well in the leadup to the world cup.

Yahtzee is alright when he talks videogames, when he tries to speak like he knows world events he completely cocks it up. If he mentions this in his reviews, it can be brought up in the context of his reviews.

>>1225359
>>1225358
Another fun fact is when you IDDQD and get "degreelessness mode" it refers to one of the devs not getting a degree because he played too many videogames.

Reminder that this is a raid by /v/

Do not give subhuman /v/irgins attention.

Report and hide.

>>1225367
>calling somebody who hates people who whine at askenazi jews for the "crime" of being white anti semitic

Your mother must have married an idiot if you cant even read something as simple as that.

>>1224902
Man, antitrop is a moron. 99% of his posts in NeoGAF are shit

>>1224891
>>1224893
This happened because FPS games shifted from singleplayer for multiplayer. Developers put few effort in the single-player campaing.

But the multiplayer maps in modern FPS are big and complex

>>1224917
You can't judge a game for being linear or not

>>1225378
>So play as female characters.
not what i'm really talking about bruv i'm p sure you know that

not much point in talking anymore cause we obviously have a fundamentally different outlooks. i don't really consider anything a "non-issue" because i'm not gonna try to discredit anyone's feelings; people speak out about the things that affect them and that's fine in my book.

the "non-issue" argument just feels like a lazy way to shut people up to me; like bad parents who cook shit food and say "well there are children in africa who don't have anything so eat it all": that doesn't change shit about the situation the kid is in. yeah some issues are more severe than others but it doesn't mean that the less severe one's don't need to be dealt with too.

also i'm around a lot of feminists (male and female) and would consider myself one and have literally never met anyone who has any kind of hate for white males or anyone else for being something they can't help.

>>1225378
>Another fun fact is when you IDDQD and get "degreelessness mode" it refers to one of the devs not getting a degree because he played too many videogames.

Time to investigate!

I could never even hang out on video game discussion forums where you have to have a username and avatar and all that shit.
It's what makes anonymous discussion so much better, you just discuss things as they are without any "oh you have this avatar, I hate it" or feuds following you around and other drama.

It's impersonal and instead moves to talking about the games and as an added bonus there are no signatures at the bottom of posts.

>"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Master Chief
>*Picture of Nomad from Crysis*

You can also attack stupid shit head on instead of worrying about a mod picking friends.

Part of the reason SomethingAwful went on a one way ticket to shitsville.

>>1225287
> my black mates are treated with much more suspicion that me
Depends of the situation. You are much more likely to be considered racism purely because you are white. You are much more likely to lose a job for a non-white person, even if you have better skills. Results of anti-white propaganda, because, yes, instutionalized racism against whites exists and it's the only kind of instutionalized racism today.

> men are obviously privileged over women in so many ways
It's actually the contrary. Western women are the most privileged people in the world. If you don't know this, you are a moron without capacity of independent thinking. Sorry for being harsh, but this is the truth. All privileges in the western society are for women.

> why are you so angry man?
Because it's political propaganda. A way to shut up people while you take aways their rights.

Oh, I thought this thread was about Doom for a second. I guess I'll come back later when people aren't complaining about stupid, unrelated bullshit.

>>1225394
yeah the dynamics of internet forums are so interesting to look at
especially forums with upvote/downvote systems; people with a "cool" reputation who have been around for a while and are known for posting quality or whatever might get mad love for something a new user would get hated for
there's something interesting in the way people master the subtleties of being accepted by a very small and often hostile community but i could never be bothered with any of that

after 4chan everything seems so slow as well, i'm not into waiting a few days for someone to answer my question on something

>>1225353
> as a man i'd rather not feel patronised /w sexy ladies popping up to keep my interest in a non-pornographic game.
It's hard to believe that exists men who dislike being men, but yeah... you are a good example.

>>1225397
Just report the shitposters. I'm guessing the faggot nigger mods are sucking each others dicks right now.

>>1225387
>also i'm around a lot of feminists (male and female) and would consider myself one and have literally never met anyone who has any kind of hate for white males or anyone else for being something they can't help.

You have probably met an exception to a general rule because of all the ones I've met they're usually uni student protestor fucktards who think the world owes them something.
I'd have them go apeshit at me and seriously accost me when I asked them to have their protest marches in Saudi Arabia (where women cant even drive) or India where they're treated not even with hatred but worse, total disengagement. However they're afraid they'll get called the magic R word or get met with serious resistance (physical assault or even imprisonment) and so they back away.

Fact is most feminists in the west have it easy and any of them who disagree are invited to move to parts of the world that they think have better track records with women.

>>1225401
lol i dunno what you mean by that
it's the same as if i'm reading a book that's non-pornograpgic, i don't want to turn the page and see a picture of a woman in a bikini out of the blue.
it's patronising and ruins immersion for me.

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>>1225353
Feminist vision of 'decent female characters' = any character that fit on their fantasies.

Feminist vision of 'bad female characters' = any that character that doesn't fit on their fantasies.

Keep trying.

> I feel bad for liking sexy women

Typical male feminist.

If anyone feels like talking about Doom...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaxnWx2zyE4nBLi1p9NufrotItnYyMziw

Someone already did demos of Hellbound. (See OP and >>1221908 for details) Not quite sure if he's running an outdated version because of certain differences in one of the sekrit maps. Also it seems that he's running the expanded version of MAP29 (!) so go check this shit out

If you have plenty of time and want to get that itching feeling of replay Doom normally, check this run.

>>1225396
You're referring to this image.

>It's actually the contrary. Western women are the most privileged people in the world.

You refer here to divorce court?
This is one of the biggest reasons men are not getting married now, whats the point really?

On the topic of marriage law, it's pretty good for men in Saudi.

>>1225407
> lol i dunno what you mean by that
You reject something that men naturally loves.

>it's the same as if i'm reading a book that's non-pornograpgic, i don't want to turn the page and see a picture of a woman in a bikini out of the blue.
Isn't out of the blue when it's part of the book.

Also, I love how feminists think that this should only belong to pornographic products, while at the same time they accept women dressing the way they want in public.

>>1225408
>> I feel bad for liking sexy women
when i did i say that brother
i like sexy women when i'm looking at porn because i'm horny and want to jerk off
i don't want it everywhere cause it's silly and out of place
i also like coffee a lot but i don't want it in my curry
you feel me?

DELETE THIS THREAD PLEASE.

>>1225413
spamming is against the rules

>>1225416
Report and ignore the shitposters. Do not respond to them under any circumstances.

Already?! That's fucking insane.

>>1225414
>i like sexy women when i'm looking at porn because i'm horny and want to jerk off
If you need to jerk off every time you see a hot women, this is your problem. If you feel bad for 'being horny' in other situations, this is your problem too and sounds like repression.

Why should I 'feel horny' only when feminists want?

> i don't want it everywhere cause it's silly and out of place
It isn't out of place when you expect it.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Reposting my question again

Someone knows about wads with plenty of areas with marble textures? Or wads with an extensive use of them?

Thanks in advance

>>1225418
>Isn't out of the blue when it's part of the book.
the kind of thing i'm talking about in games isn't relevant to the game.

>Also, I love how feminists think that this should only belong to pornographic products, while at the same time they accept women dressing the way they want in public.
that's the most ridiculous link i've ever read
people should be in control of how they dress at all times
that's got nothing to do with shoe-horning sexy women into video games where it's uncalled for
what are you on about mate seriously

>>1225423
i feel like yr misinterpreting what i'm saying
i never said i want to jerk off every time i see a hot women.
i'm saying i find it boring and patronising that games developers expect me to want to see sexy women wherever i go.
i'm all for more games focusing on sex or porn games or whatever.
but if i'm playing a game where i dont feel that it's relevant at all it feels silly and unnecessary to me.

>>1225425
"Venom" is basically all marble.

>>1221953

I like you. Here's an idea I had when one of those "Hell" threads in /v/ popped out

>Boom-compatible WAD (after watching how does Hellbound works, this is totally possible)
>From MAP01 to MAP29, the whole wad is filled with psychedelic, "Spiritual World"-ish levels. Totally not a slaughterwad, something in the vein of The Eye-levels of difficulty.
>MAP29's exit is totally strange and different from the rest of the exits of the whole wad
>MAP30 you seem to jump off from the biggest cliff ever and land on an extended playground apparently located in Hell
>You hear a big ass growl
>You suddenly realize what you heard is a big ass monster, which is located right at your left. You were inside him all this time.
>You fell off from one of his ears, and your objective now is to kill that motherfucker.

Pic related, that possible monster. Also it should be clarified that the monster is geometry-based and not a big ass sprite

>>1225428
>the kind of thing i'm talking about in games isn't relevant to the game.
Except it's relevant.

> people should be in control of how they dress at all times
What? Nobody has the right of dressing the way they want in PUBLIC.

> that's got nothing to do with shoe-horning sexy women into video games where it's uncalled for
Yes it got. Feminists have a terrible double standard since they accept and applaud women who shoehorn their sexuality in public.

> i'm saying i find it boring and patronising that games developers expect me to want to see sexy women wherever i go.
"Seeing sexy women wherever you go" is men's ultimate life fantasy. You got brainwashed by feminists to feel guilty about this, sorry pal.

> but if i'm playing a game where i dont feel that it's relevant at all it feels silly and unnecessary to me.
You can argue that violence in Doom is silly and uncessary, but you would be wrong. This is a BIG part of Doom, just like sexy girls are a big part of the games where they exist.

Why isn't someone making Dark Souls Hexen yet?

>>1223669
Really? So it *is* your first map?

My first map is pretty damn ambitious as well, at least your map shows it's not too ambitious.

>>1225448
Just use this image.

>>1225449
That is a *seriously* big project to pull off.
I mean, to do well that would take major effort.

Even just making the first area or whatever.

>>1225459
that image is so dumb lol

>>1225462
wait nevermind you're actually the same guy just replying to yourself
just learned that if you report the same person twice it will tell you, so that's pretty interesting!

>Pick berserk/chainsaw
>Pinky/Spectre monster trap

Another mapping "tropes" I should avoid when making my first wad?

>>1225403
>there's something interesting in the way people master the subtleties of being accepted by a very small and often hostile community but i could never be bothered with any of that

At least thanks to this though discussion can be a bit more honest. We're here to take points as they are and the bullshit is easier to cut through.
I remember reading other forums and thinking "gosh guys, enough pleasantries, just get to the point".

>after 4chan everything seems so slow as well, i'm not into waiting a few days for someone to answer my question on something

This definitely, it's also easier to ask dumb questions and not feel so bad. /vr/ has given me quite a bit of help with troubleshooting doombuilder.

I was thinking about mentioning it in the credits when I release it but I'd be worried about people being like "Durr 4chan! evul place!"

>>1225463
No, you kept the same post as before ticked and so you tried to report that one twice.

>>1225482
haha yeah just realised what a plonker i am ;)

>>1225441
Jesus christ what I wouldn't give for a wad based off of Wayne Barlow's artwork.

>>1225487
>Waving 3D lines
Hard to do

>Lots of Waving 3D lines
Very hard to do

>Doing lots of them in 3D
I quit.

Then again I'm not a mistro mapper but that image would be hard to do.

>>1225449
I'd love to try. I've got parrying and riposting down. Fine tuning and some stuff. Getting the graphics and such would be a pain in the dick. My mod is going to be heavily inspired by Dark Souls but it'd be nearly impossible to recreate a lot of the features I think

>>1225468
>Pick up a key
>Monster Closet

>>1225468
>tropes

Please don't do that

>>1225503
Huh?

>>1225503
what?

>>1225503
Stop being a fuck boy