/vr/ - Retro Games

Actually, my favourite is FF9, though I think 4 is my second favourite.

And 4 is definitely the one FF that I would like to see given a full next gen 3d remake.

It's FFV. And if you have to ask why, it's because of the job system

I have a soft spot for FF1. Specifically, the PSP remake, but every version has its merits. Also, easily the most memorable soundtrack of them all.

6 > 9 > Tactics > Legend 3 > 4 > everything else I don't feel like ordering out right now

9 > 4 > 1 > 6 > 7 > 8 > All the others I haven't played

>>1213724
Because no matter what I always end up with the exact same party, with the exact same abilities, using the exact same equipment.

>>1213785
He said why you like it, not why you consider FF4 to be one of the worst in the franchise.

>>1213792
That is why I like it, it's comforting to me :3

Tactics is probable my favorite.

>Top Tier
VI and VII
>High Tier
V and IX
>Good Tier
IV
>Okay Tier
I and III
>Meh Tier
VIII
>I Love the Emperor But Everything Else Is Shit Tier
II

I own Tactics but haven't gotten around to playing it.

Top tier: FFV, FFVI, FFVIII, FFT
High tier: FF1, FFIV, FFIX
Mid tier: FFVII, FFX, FFXII, Mystic Quest
Low tier: FFII, FFIII, FFX-2, FFTA

>>1213918

>Top tier
>VIII

You've got some explaining to do, son.

Guess I'll try ranking them since that's what everyone seems to be doing:

5 > 7 = 9 > 6 > 1 > 2 = 4 > 8 > 3

>>1213724
>Pre-Enix
You do know that Enix has never touched Final Fantasy right? They are a small division of less than 40 people who only work on Dragon Quest and publishing for other studios (Tri-Ace, etc.)

>>1213991

Yes, I was just using that to refer to the era of Final Fantasy games that can be talked about on /vr/.

4 had some of the most memorable moments and characters, one of the best soundtracks and some of the most imaginative locations. Going to the moon on a whale vessel, battling inside a giant, discovering the underworld, the world of eidolons, those were some really cool concepts.

>>1213991
>Enix ... are a small division
Enix is a video game publishing megacorporation that bought Square and all of it's assets and assimilated it's trademarks, dimwit.

>>1214025

Did you read his whole post?

>>1214025
>Enix is a video game publishing megacorporation
1. They have never had more than 40 employees. My local grocery store has more than that.
2. Enix was never primarily a video game company, they did a lot of other publishing work.
>that bought Square
It was a company merger.

For me, 4=6>1>5>7>everything else

Not counting the Tactics series which I also dig.

>>1214063

>no 9

It's not.

5 master race.

9>6>4>5>7>3>2>1>8

>>1214025
Yet Wada, of Square was in charge of SE for years.

Enix didn't ruin your precious Squaresoft, Squaresoft did that themselves.

>>1213724

>What's your favourite Pre-Enix Final Fantasy

It changes between IV, VI and VII. Right now it's IV.

>Medieval setting
>Characters wearing actual armor and wielding swords, not wearing armor with zippers and skin exposed and wielding a decorative sword that would be useless in combat
>Old men were still allowed to be party members
>The story was there for flavoring, gameplay was the most important thing
>Difficult dungeons
>Lolis weren't sex appeal (Not that I mind sexified lolis, I just hate that Japan ALWAYS sexualizes them now
>Old men were still allowed to join the party
>They didn't try too hard to make the game epic.
>Spending 100000 gil on upgrades
>The best equipment were found in dungeons
>No real way to easily overpower yourself (I always end up doing that in the later games, I just can't help myself, I play Triple Triad for 11 hours whenever I start FF VIII so I can steamroll the game)
>The best final boss both in terms of aesthetics and challenge (and dig that snazzy background)
>I really enjoy the strict classes in the game and the final party is great.

My favorite version is the SFC version but I can't play it often due to the horrible fucking translation patch so I sometimes play the PSP version. I'm learning Japanese though so I can make the SFC version my go-to version eventually.

>>1213728

I like IX but it loses steam after the first disc, it gets even less interesting by disc three. And it's so goddamn slow.

>>1213846

I've tried really hard to get into Tactics. I've played the PSX version up until I got to Cuchulainn, and a very small amount of the PSP version. I was actually interested in the story which is saying something, I usually don't find JRPG stories to be that compelling, but the gameplay, no matter how hard I try, is just not for me. It's not the strategic element, I like that, it's just too damn slow.

>>1214063

>I above anything but II and XIII

This is why I like this place, people where appreciate old games even if they don't have pretty graphics and aren't polished to a mirror sheen. I is not my favorite but I do enjoy it quite a bit (mostly the NES version despite it being broken).

IV always bores me a bit.
I appreciate it, but I just don't love it the way other people do.
V and IV are my personal faves.

>>1214076

>Enix didn't ruin your precious Squaresoft,
Squaresoft did that themselves.

Indeed, the cracks were showing even in the late 90s. They just got bigger later on.

Number VI is the one.

Actually 8 is my favourite.

>>1214076
You are partially right, SquareSoft pretty much ruined themselves with Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, the failed experiment cost that Square $98,000,000. This is not a loss anyone can walk away from easily not even a powerhouse like Square. Because of this fuck-up they more or less needed to merge with Enix to survive financially.

>>1214246
If I recall I didn't even dislike this movie (it's been a long time since I've seen it). I just thought "Why in gods name is this called "Final Fantasy" when it's unrelated to any of the games."

>>1213724
You know why it's 4.

>>1214253
none of the games are related to each other dipshit. except for themes like crystals and the earth having it's own life force

>>1213728
>FFIV next gen
It's already had enough remakes/ports. My money is on FFV. I'd like a great FFVII remake more than anything, but there's no way Squenix won't fuck it up.

>>1214529
>Unrelated to any of the games
I specifically worded it so no asshat would get confused like this. Good job, you still got confused by this.
Yknow how Advent Children was a Final Fantasy movie AND it had something to do with one of the games? There's no reason this movie couldn't have been that for any of the other games.

Which version of FF6 would you guys recommend playing? Which version of FF5?

Eight


Anything else is Pleb Tier.

>>1214591
You's a funny nigga

>>1214582

SFC for both if you can into nihongo. If not then read on.

FF V SNES:

- Generally accurate fan translation. Kinda bland but at least it's not a complete piece of shit like J2e's FF IV translation.

- GBA version: More humorous script
- Four extra classes (that I can't comment on much because I've only played that version once, I remember Finisher from one of the new classes kicked lots of ass though

FF VI:

SNES:

- Better colors and sound than the GBA version (the colors can be fixed with a patch, the sound can be made better but still not as good as the SNES version's)
- I like the script better in most cases, though I prefer the enemy, item, and spell names in the GBA version due to accuracy
- Vanish/Doom if you like abusing glitches, but you shouldn't do that on your first time anyway

GBA version:
- Brighter colors, worse sound. As stated, these can be mostly fixed.
- Mostly the same script with some changes, generally more accurate
- One scene was censored (removed a guy beating up a woman)
- Can get the Ragnarok sword and Esper (not that you need both)
- Four extra Espers, four extra spells, a new dungeon that I hear isn't that good.

>>1214530
I have mixed feelings on this. While I'd like a FFVII remake as well, I can only envision a shit one where Cloud is as insufferable as in AC, all the males look like hosts and the humor has been completely taken out.

>>1214625

This, this is why I don't understand the desire for a remake. Square even said that they'd remove the cross dressing if they did remake it. Barrett and Cid's mouths would get significantly toned down too (though I think a lot of the cussing in the English version of VII was added by the translator anyway).

>>1213724
I liked 10 but 10 doesn't belong on this board.
Also Blitzball is the best minigame in any FF.

>>1214246
Except that's wrong. The merger was in talks before Final Fantasy movie even started production. In fact, after the movie bombed Enix almost backed out of the deal.

>>1214530
>>1214625
>FFVII remake
Stop crying about it and thinking it "deserves" a remake in the first place.
Even if FFVII would be remade we'd have the Advent Children Cloud as protagonist because SE thinks it's what the fans want and many of the awesome scenes would be watered down since they'd have to be censored in order to keep the "Teen" rating for the game:
-no Jesse, Biggs and Wedge
-no cross-dressing
-no trail of blood at Shinra HQ
-no Hojo surrounded by bitches at the beach
-no Gold Saucer dating scene
-no Tifa slapping the fuck out of Scarlet also say goodbye to Tseng bitchslapping Aeris for talking.
-speaking of Tifa she probably wouldn't have her giant rack in the remake
-Cloud is no longer silly or a douchebag, and is emotionless and they will get rid of "Let's mosey."
-It really pains me to think of how bad a remake would be because of the voice acting.
-I have a hunch that the fact you start the game as terrorists plowing up power plants wouldn't go well with people new to FFVII in 'Murica nowadays

In short FFVII is one those things that just can't be re-made, all the weird little nonsensical shit like Bugenhagen floating, characters being able to jump a 100ft into the air and etc is what makes it what it is and if they tried to remake it now they would have to make so many changes that it just wouldn't be the same game anymore. Do you actually want that to happen?

If you love FFVII a remake of it should be the very last thing you want to see. You didn't love FFVII for it's graphics in the first place so if you like it just go play it as it already exists.

The only people crying about the FFVII remake are the "hardcore" FFVII fans that haven't played FFVII itself due to it's outdated graphics and only know it's characters from spin-offs like Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children. Pic related.

>>1214635
>>1214654

It's amazing that they'd even remove the cross dressing. It's still something used for humor all around the world, what makes them think that people would care? Or maybe they're not worried about that, maybe they just wouldn't want nu-Cloud's image "ruined" with a nice dress.

>>1214654
>T rated games do not contain blood, any sexual references and definitely no big tits.
You seriously think this is true?

>>1214669

Not him.

I don't know how touchy the ESRB is these days. Blood trails would have been allowed ten years ago but I'm not sure if they still are, everyone is so sensitive these days. About the tits, I think he was just talking about the fact that Tifa got a breast reduction in Advent Children and everything after it, they'd probably downsize her tits just because they don't like the original size anymore (which were only so big in the first place so that they could be noticed on her character model).

>>1214676
Blood trails and many other things mentioned in >>1214654 probably got a free pass back in day because they were done in FFVII's rather primitive graphics. If they were to replicate them in detailed full HD graphics now they are sure to gain attention from ESRB.

>>1214669
>>1214676
>>1214705

Speaking of blood trails, I never understood why the blood in Ultimecia's castle was changed to green in the English version of FF VIII, there was already red blood in the first FMV of the game.

>>1214705
They got a free pass because games weren't as much of a big mainstream business as they are now so you didn't have shithead conservative groups and other THINK OF THE CHILDREN types constantly breathing down the necks of game developers and publishers.

>>1214705

Rated M for hyper-realistic blood

Are you fags for real? No one would care at all about anything in FF7.

>>1214018
>I was just using that to refer to the era of Final Fantasy games that can be talked about on /vr/.

FFX was before Enix but isn't allowed here.

>>1213724
Incredible game balance and great pacing for the majority of the game.

>>1215023
>great pacing
Yeah, this sort of thing doesn't get mentioned enough. A lot of JRPGs suffer from filler syndrome but in FF4 it never felt like you were just fucking around. There's a sense of urgency or tension that never really lets up, even during the times when you're mostly free to explore.

VII>IV>VI

The only three ive played so far.

I'm sorry, but I think V and VI far superpassed IV. IV did start the trend and was revolutionary for the series but everything it did was done better by its successors.

That said, my favorite is VI, followed by IX, then VII, then V. I just started playing III so I can't judge but I'm really enjoying it.

>>1215016

Nitpicky little cuss, aren't we? I think it's safe to assume OP knew that. Don't go full autism when it's not needed. He was just trying to start a thread.

>>1215047

FF4 feels too fast to me, really. It's like you get slapped with plot every 20 minutes.

Granted, it's an early 90s RPG, so I'll forgive it, but the game moves at such a rapidfire pace that it doesn't give you a lot of time to reflect on it all.

>>1215143
>I think it's safe to assume OP knew that

That makes him even more of an idiot.

>>1215154
That's nice.

>>1215117

>I just started playing III

Which version?

>>1215143
>FF4 feels too fast to me, really. It's like you get slapped with plot every 20 minutes.
I don't see how that's a bad thing. Personally I'll gladly take that over Playstation-era JRPG bloat.

I've been playing the PSP version of IV and Zeromus keeps on killing me. Do I just need to grind some more? I never stopped anywhere to grind. I even broke down and looked up guides but every strategy I've found hasn't worked.

>>1215181
Did you get all the lunar equipment?
And you shouldn't really have to grind much in 4, but if you've been running from battles a lot you might be a bit weak.

>>1215164
The only version I own is the DS version. I hear it's even harder than the original so I'll probably enjoy it. I personally enjoy the DS remakes of old Final Fantasies, I thought the IV remake was just as good as the original. I'm aware those are fighting words here, though.

Despite this I could not get into the iphone version of IV.

>>1215181

What are your levels? I've always been low-mid 60s (except for Kain, whose always been high 70s) for that fight. It was still challenging but not extremely hard. I'm sure you've tried this already but....

Kain: Jump
Cecil: Attack, have him help out with curing as needed
Rydia: Bahamut spam
Rosa: Curaja every round
Edge: Throw the best weapons you've got

If you wanted to puss out you could always auto-level to 99 in the Cave that leads to the Land of the Summons.

Here's my problem with FFIV:

>gain party member
>party member temporarily leaves party (with equipment)
>regain party member
>repeat
>repeat
>permanently lose party member

And it happens with every motherfucker you meet. It's insufferable. I loved the game, I'm not saying it isn't great, but that shit gets my goat.

>>1215181
What level are you?

>>1215185

>DS version

What a pity. Well if it's your first time playing the game at all you'll probably enjoy it, though I much, much prefer the original.

>>1215190

Yeah that is annoying on the first run through, after that it's not a problem.

>>1215192
Level 60 means you grinded. I'd have to actually load up the game to check, but I"m pretty sure you can get to the final boss before level 50. At that point, his ultimate attack will kill your party in one hit. So you might need a grind a few levels. In my most recent playthrough, I had to do a bit of grinding before him, and he still killed Rydia in one hit, so I just killed him with 4 people. In the level 50 something range.

>>1214712
I've played the English version of FFVIII so many times and I never knew there even was blood in her castle.

>>1215215

It's green in the English version.

>>1215187
If you mean all the equipment in the final story dungeon then yes I believe so.

>>1215191
>>1215192
I don't know off the top of my head. I decided to take a break from my PSP today. Also auto-level? First I've heard of this.

>>1215223
Do you have the ribbons and protect rings (or whatever they're called) on Rosa and Rydia? They need the extra defense the most.

>>1215223 Here again.
Just booted the PSP up.

Cecil 62
Rosa 61
Kain 62
Rydia 59
Edge 60

>>1215229
I have both Ribbons and Protect Rings on both Rosa and Rydia.

>>1215239
You really shouldn't be having trouble. If you just spam your best attacks and best heals every turn, he should go down. You can still lose to randomness, but it shouldn't be common. If you absolutely can't do it, then there's no reason why you can't grind a bit in the final dungeon. It has good music and plays the boss theme during random encounters. Breddy cool.

>>1215239
I don't know if the PSP version differs significantly from the SNES version but at those levels and with the lunar equipment you should be able to beat Zeromus.

>>1215242
>>1215248
I don't know what the problem is. I've seen Zeromus do Big Bang twice in a row before I can heal.

Well I just found out what autobattle is. I never thought to hit select during battle before.

>>1215263

It's damn useful for if you must get yourself to level 99. There's an enemy, can't remember the name, in the cave to the Feymarch that summons Arachne. I don't remember exactly how to set it up but you can set your characters up so that they just kill Arachne every time it's summoned by using autobattle. Come back a little while later, finish the fight, get shitloads of exp.

>>1215278
I'm looking for the thing now. The enemy is names Summoner. There's the occasional Thunder Dragon Summoners but the rest all summon Goblins.

>>1215283

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgNjK2FkiCE

Finally found one. Muted the PSP and going to leave it on and charging while I sleep. Hopefully it'll work.

>>1215169
Because it's not paced out at all.

And I don't know why you brought PSX into it. FFVI, DQV, and other SNES RPGs got the job done without it feeling as "rushed"

>>1214214
How do you guys go about learning Japanese? I don't even like anime but I'm considering learning it.

>>1215502
Start with literacy. Learn kana and some kanji, and compounds. If you know how the language actually works it's a huge help.

>force matingib
Captcha supports rape culture.

>>1215502

Get Genki I, get the workbook too if you want extra practice. Find some Kapanese pen-pals, they're easy to find. Don't worry too much about Kanji right away, you need to get your feet wet first. Besides, there are like, 10 lessons in the second have of Genki I that are devoted to Kanji.

>>1213730
this

>>1215190

>that comic

Yeah I totally remember Edgar and Locke fighting the phantom train. At least let Sir Thou say it.

>>1215520

>Japanese pen-pal

Sounds neat.

>>1215278
Leveling up that high is a very stupid decision since you could end up with lower stats than if you were 20 levels lower.

>>1215634

Oh yeah, I forgot that stats can decrease past level 70 or so in FF IV. I wonder why they did that? Possibly to discourage grinding?

>>1215646
How does that happen?

IV -is- my favorite. I totally admit that the gameplay is extremely dated, but it's got my favorite characters and soundtrack. Also, its Four Fiends are fucking awesome.

>>1215634
>>1215646

What? Stats don't decrease in FF IV for anyone except Tellah. The stat increases you get are random after level 70 though.

>>1215681
They're so random they can include negative numbers.

>>1213932
>whatever.jpg

>>1214605
Thanks man.

I've never been much of a FF fan, so IV is actually the only pre-VII game I've played. I played the remake of it for iPhones though, so I'm not exactly sure what the differences are. I'm assuming the original probably uses sprites instead of the 3D models that are in the iPhone version.

That being said, I liked it a lot. The story was much less convoluted than the 3D FF games that I'm used to, and I liked that. It was simple, and I actually had room to give a shit about the characters. tfw the two midgets cast stone on each other so they can save everyone

The gameplay was alright. To be honest, I've never noticed a whole lot of variety in the gameplay of the FF series(until XII), and IV had solid combat just like I'd expect. Exploration was fairly straight-forward without feeling too linear. You have room to explore the overworld, but at the same time, it's not likely you'll ever have trouble figuring out where to go.

Once I have some money again, I wouldn't mind playing another one of these older FF games. I've noticed that the iPhone eventually got a version of V, so I might try that out.

>>1215860
>midgets
Uh, children.
They were kids.

>>1215871
Really? It's a been about 6 months or so since I played it. I must have forgotten.

For some reason, I thought they were just midget mages.

>>1215872
In retrospect it would have been a lot better if they were crusty old midget twins

6 < 8 < tactics < 1 < 4 < 5 < 7 < 3 < 9 < 2 < gameboy games

>>1216064

>"<"

Huh?

>>1214576

This. If spirits within had been advent children it would have been awesome. It was still an alright movie but it could have been more. Or just not named final fantasy. Or been called final fantasy and had machine and sword fight and all that other BS in it. Also does anyone remember the final fantasy ova series. I've never seen it and was wondering if there is DVD release. All I ever remember seeing was VHS.

>>1216176
I've never heard of that, but why didn't they make a Spirits Within game tie-in? I mean, that's the real problem with Spirits Within. Final Fantasy is a game series. If you make a movie with that title it has to have something to do with the video games, or if not have something to do with a NEW FF video game. But just being a stand alone film and trying to ride on the popularity of Final Fantasy? Bad idea.

>>1216176
You talkin' about this? I remember renting it once when I was a kid, but I don't remember anything about it. It's probably all up on Youtube now.

>>1214067
9 is there, I lumped it in there with "everything else".

>>1214223
FF1 has its issues, but I played it when it first came out and it was one of the first RPGs I ever played, so I have trouble viewing it without nostalgia goggles.

I'm also a fan of the NES version despite the punishing battle system and broken spells.

>>1216064
The gameboy games aren't actually Final Fantasy games but other series games that were rebranded for their western release to boost sales. Final Fantasy Legends were SaGa games, while Final Fantasy Adventure was Seiken Densetsu.

>>1216186
Nah he's talking about the japanese only (?) one.
I still have that video though.
If I recall, it had absolutely nothing to do with Final Fantasy other than a few name drops and Bartz appearing for a few seconds.

>>1216110
He's saying 6 is the shittiest and 2 is the best.

>>1216267

I was just surprised you didn't rank FF9 higher, seeing as there seems to be a lot of overlap between FF4 fans and FF9 fans

>>1214215
I actually think the opposite. It felt like the most fast-paced Final Fantasy game. Partially because of how quickly most places you visit get nuked. First and second discs are the best, but I agree that it dips in quality by disc 3.

>>1216320

By slow I meant loading. Get into a battle and you have to wait what seems like an eternity (which is simply several seconds in reality) for the battle to really start (because the camera needs to sway around as if it were drunk, showing you your battle arena before focusing on the characters). And then you need to wait for the ATB gauges to load, which are in no hurry to do so. Setting battle speed at max and giving everyone auto-haste helps a small amount.

>>1216320
Also, to add to the thread's main topic. My favourite FF is IX. The difficulty is pretty low and the customization is lackluster, but the fucking world is one of my favourite fantasy worlds I've seen in video games. It felt really alive, unique and beautiful. The characters are also really loveable, and I don't understand at all how some people can dislike Zidane. The art style put me off but I grew to like it. In FFVIII, which has a much more realistic look, I hated a lot of the clothes characters wore because of how stupid they looked. In FFIX, the world is so distinct and stylized that I could actually believe that those clothes would be common or fashionable in the world.

>>1216324
Oh yeah, that's true. It especially got on my nerves when random encounter enemies had counter moves. Made the battles drag on fucking forever.

>>1216347

>Fightning Ozma
>Everyone has Auto-Potion

Goddamn that took way too long.

>>1216353
On the plus side, the slow pace makes auto-regen insanely effective.

>Spam Holy every turn with Eiko while using Freya to restore MP
>The game is now impossible to lose

Doesn't apply to Ozma, of course...

V>VIII=Tactics>VII>IX>III>IV>II>I>VI

Sue me but god damn the beginning of VI being so slow and boring, the entire dark bland color scheme, the mopey story, it all just kills it for me

Contrast with V, which jumps right into the game, is very lighthearted for the most part, while still allowing for seriousness when needed, and is a very bright and vibrant game

As for liking FFVIII, I think it looks nice, I enjoyed the combat although I acknowledge that it's incredibly broken, I think Triple Triad is fun, the music is great, and I think Squall had some really nice character development for the most part aside from retardedly pulling a total 180 when he fell for Rinoa

4 was too grindy for me, but I loved the story. Simple, but effective. Also, Kain is one of my favorite characters from a FF game.

5 was lots of fun to play through with a friend, thanks to the jobs system. I should try that game solo, one of these days.

6 is where it's at for me. Yeah I had to grind it, but not to an extent that pissed me off like 4. And the story is much deeper, so that's a plus. Also, it's got Edgar and Sabin.

>>1216472

>Yeah I had to grind it

In VI? You only really have to AP grind, and that doesn't take long if you use Intangr, Cactuar's, and Slagworms.

I'm kinda interested in playing FF2, as Firion was my favourite character from Dissidia. I've heard the way you level up your attributes as you use them, so in order to increase your health, you need to get into critical health, etc. This sounds kinda monstrous. Is there any one version of the game that makes this less horrific? If they're all roughly equal, I'll probably just check it out on PSP.

>>1217372
Just play the PSP version, the levelling thing isn't that bad, and for HP it's taking damage, not critical health, and I think it actually increases as you just kill stuff too

>>1217372
It's really not that bad. I can't speak to the NES version, but I know with the GBA one you can pretty much just play it like you would normally and your stuff will level up just fine. PSP one is probably the same.

How was that PSP FFT remake? I've never played FFT, but tempted to get it. I heard there was some slowdown issues in the remake for some of the crazier spell animations, is it really that bad?

>>1217372

>I've heard the way you level up your attributes as you use them, so in order to increase your health, you need to get into critical health, etc. This sounds kinda monstrous. Is there any one version of the game that makes this less horrific?

NES and PSX version:

- Can use a bug to (relatively) quickly up your stats
- Can use this same bug to increase Toad to level 16 which works on like, 95% of enemies

GBA and PSP:

- That bug is not available so leveling will take longer however it's also easier

Both versions:

- Equip the right equipment to get your evade stat to 99%, you will rarely ever be touched. If you're playing the NES version, max evade + Max Toad = Easy mode

Consult this http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread.php?9970-Kraid-s-Quick-Guide-to-FFII

>>1217392
There's a fan patch for the slowdown, other than that it's pretty great, although some people didn't like the new translation

Old one was badly translated but pretty straightforward, and some of the fucked up lines are memorable, whereas the remake was translated more faithfully, but the writing style is more grandiose in its word choice

The original is on the PSN store if you'd rather try that out but WotL has some extra content added too and beautiful voiced cutscenes

>>1217403
You forgot to mention the butchered sound quality.

>>1217548
Does the fan patch fix the lack of reverb? I can't remember, I don't usually play my PSP at all anymore.

Oh and FF9 is best

>>1217548
I wasn't aware of that

>>1217553
It doesn't.

>>1217554
Maybe you should try playing the game before talking about it.

>>1217403

It was my understanding that the Playstation Port (the one which is on PSN) had the same slowdown problems as War of the Lions.

>>1217565
I haven't tried it but I heard someone say that it didn't which meant the slowdown was actually programmed into the game
It sounds ridiculous but I haven't tested it

>>1215239 Back again.
I slept with my PSP on autobattle and forgot about it when I woke up, just remembered now. Battle was already finished when I got it, didn't get much of a boost.

Cecil 65
Rosa 64
Kain 65
Rydia 62
Edge 63

I was hoping to get more than that.

>>1217565
No, that's not the case at all. The PSN "port" is literally an ISO of Final Fantasy Tactics on the PlayStation. It runs no differently than it did on the PSX; I've beaten it on both and everything.

>>1217579
Adding to this, I will say I forgot that there's an odd bug that causes the "Job change" music to play slower than it does on real hardware but other than that there's nothing major that's different.

>>1217572

You did it wrong. If you do it correctly (I think you need to cast Slow on Cecil or something, and maybe Haste on the Summoner) then the battle will go on until you choose to end it yourself.

Still, you don't need higher levels than that for Zeromus.

>>1217590
I did cast haste on the summoner and slow on Kain who did nothing but Jump. Cecil, Edge, and Rydia did nothing but defend while Rosa prayed. As I said earlier Zeromus keeps on wiping me out for some reason.

>>1217579

Yes, but the PSX version, which is a port from the original version had slowdown too.

>>1217598
Barely, and only during summons. Saying it has the same slowdown problems as War of the Lions pre-patch is absolute madness.

>>1216441
I did not know it was humanly possible to have taste this bad.

>>1217992
Let's hear your list then

>>1217553
Burmecians remind me of Moomins more than anything.

>>1218010
VI>V=VII>IV=IX>VIII>I>X>III>II

Say what you want about it, VI isn't perfect by a long shot but not having it in at least your top three means that somewhere, somehow at some time you went horribly, horribly wrong.

>>1218021
Well then I don't see how my taste is the worst ever if VI is the only thing you really disagree with
I mean you still have V up there so I can't hate you

>>1218024
No, you're taste is pretty good, anyone who puts V up there is cool and knows there shit. But hating VI man, what happened?

>>1218021
And pray tell why you think that FF1 is better than 10 and 3.

>>1218027

>And pray tell why you think that FF1 is better than 10

I isn't a movie.

>>1218029
I dunno, it just feels like a huge difference from V
Maybe I'll give it another go, maybe it's some kind of hipster reaction wanting to hate it because everyone else likes it, I dunno

I guess I could point out that the sprite quality is pretty good and stands out from the fairly similar spriting of the first 5 games for their SNES/GBA sprites and the music is pretty decent

>>1218027
Because although it's primitive, it's also really fun. X I liked but felt the writers didn't have alot of editing, and the voice acting was pretty bad, and not bad enough where it comes around full circle and becomes so-bad-its-good. And III was fun, but I had already played V, and III kind of felt like a poor man's version of that.

>>1218021
I like your list. The only thing I disagree on is having III so low, as I had a lot of fun with the game.

>>1218032
If you want to give VI another go there is an HD remake coming to iOS. Odds are it'll give the game a new color pallet along with some new features.

>>1218041
My only apple product is an ipod nano so I guess I'll miss out on that

I was hoping for more PSP porting/remaking though since they had most of the series on there already and were only missing remakes for FF5/6 instead of just the PSN versions, not a fan of the whole iOS craze, I'd be more fine with it if they released it there and on 3DS/PSP/Vita

IV>VI>VII>I>IX>VIII>III>X>II>XII>V

>>1218045
>XII and V at the end
for what purpose

>>1218042
Yeah, but Japan is in love with mobile shit right now(SE are also doing a 3D mobile port of FFIV: The After Years) so expecting any kind of handheld support is a dream. I was hoping FF: Dimensions and the V remake would come to Vita so I finally have something to play on the damn thing, but that won't happen either.

Also, the HD for V is amazing I beat it earlier today.

>>1218063
If he plays for the plot it makes a lot of sense.

>>1218063
>>1218087
V was just totally fucking forgettable and the job system couldn't save it. Game needed to be a lot a more challenging to justify the customization it offered.

The story in XII seemed okay (well, what I saw of it) but the combat was just intolerable. Like playing a really bad MMO with really stupid people.

>>1218095
>Needed to be alot more challenging
>Status effects are handed out like candy
>Liquid Flame
>Atomos
>Omega
>Shinryu
>Neo ExDeath

wut.

6>3>5>4>1>7>8=9

Have never played: 2 11 12 10

13 would go at the end but lol not /vr/

6 is always tops with me followed by the 2 job system games. I have played both versions of 3 and honestly the translated NES rom is my favorite. 4 was my first FF game but nostalgia can't beat the fun of a job system or 6 to get it higher on my list.

>>1218095
>Game needed to be a lot a more challenging to justify the customization it offered.

When I think about it, I don't think ANY of the Final Fantasy games have difficulty hard enough to justify any of their character progression systems, the game is almost always in the player's favor. Not even the MMOs were safe from this (XI was full of flavor-of-the-month job/party combinations).

V > IV > VII > IX > VI >VIII
I enjoy all of them.

>>1218029
I dislike 6 too. Too much drama that just felt forced and characters it was hard to care about made the game very boring for me. I tried playing it twice but I just find it tedious.

>>1216441
I don't think VIII should be that high, but agreed otherwise.

>the entire dark bland color scheme
I didn't like VI's art direction. It looked really dull.

>>1218030
That's a stupid reason.

A lot of love for FF5 in here. Which version should I play? Any significant difference between the version on PSN and the GBA?

>>1213724
I see how FF4 was so influential, but its appeal was lost on me after playing 6,7,8,9,10 and Chrono Trigger first. Its alright I guess, way better than FF1

>>1214214
>No real way to easily overpower yourself (I always end up doing that in the later games, I just can't help myself, I play Triple Triad for 11 hours whenever I start FF VIII so I can steamroll the game)

At the risk of sounding too casual, that was actually my biggest pet peeve about the game. In the hard (regular) version, you have to spend like 6 hours grinding at the last save point to power up enough to fight Zeromus, and even then that fight is a crapshoot.

I hate RPG's that pad out the end in general, but 4 was the worst. At least typical RPG's let you do a zillion sidequests to get all your best stuff, in 4 you have to grind like 30 levels to learn all your best skills

>>1219541

Every single boss fight in Final Fantasy 4 is made easymode by using Slow.

>>1219398

GBA has the best translation and the most content. Go for it.

>>1219398
Play the GBA version first, and if you like that play the recent iOS port, it looks great. You can play the PS1(or PSN) version if you want, after playing the other versions it's optional, as it feels a little outdated.

>>1219563
>>1219560

The only reason I'd recommend the PSX version over the GBA version is the music and audio are way better. Outside of that, you're safe to go for the GBA version, though I'm surprised there wasn't a PSP version made, and I suppose by now there's no chance of it being made.

>Excellent
IX, Tactics

>Great
VI, VII, IV

>Good
VIII

Haven't played the rest.

FF1, FF4, FF6, FF8, FF9

These are all my favorites in the series because they are the ones I have the best memories of. I played all of these constantly when I was younger, always looking for new things to discover and find. I still to this day always end up finding new things out from replaying them which is weird.

FF4 will always be my top choice though.

FF6 > FF7 > FF9 > FFTactics

>>1219580
i thought there was some psp release that included like fucking everything - the 'after years' wii material and such...? I could be totally wrong, but i thought that the 'ultimate ff4' version was psp

>>1222113

That post was about FFV

It's really sad watching Final Fantasy stray farther and farther from it's roots.

IX proved without a doubt that you can keep the entire setting and mythos intact wholesale, and still tell an interesting story.

>>1222163
Well there's the MMOs...

>>1213883 >>1213918
Ultima Tier:
FF6, FF5

1000s-of-voices-screaming-in-unison Tier:
FF7, FF8

Stray Cat Tier:
FF4, FFX-2, FF1, FF3, FF9

Dummy Tier:
FF2, FFMQ

>>1222190
Weird that you included FFX-2 but not FFX

FF IV never feels like its wasting my time (its actually quite short game by RPG standards, too). That plus great music and graphics (who cares if it just looks like upscaled 8bit, its very consistent in style).

My runner-up 2nd place FF games, VI and VII, DO often feel like they are wasting my time. And even if they both do get the feel of their worlds slightly better, the complete package isn't quite as good. Also, the FF6 tileset is ugly and clashes with the sprites.

I played FF4 for the first time on emulator nearly a decade after its release, despite being an SNES kid (never played any FF game except the crappy GB ones back in the 90s), and I was sucked in by the glorious 80s anime feel, music, and quick gameplay. Been my favorite ever since and I replay it frequently.

>>1222206

This, the pacing in FFIV is one of the best in a JRPG. There was ONE point in the game when I thought "Oh shit, here we go with the pointless fetch quest", and then it turned out I was wrong When they said there were a bunch of Dark Crystals, I thought we'd have to do the same shit we did in the overworld, luckily, you only have to go to one place.

Also, Golbez is a fucking boss of a villain. Unlike a lot of JRPG villains who remain distant throughout most of the game, he's right on your ass the whole way through. In fact, you're consistently losing throughout the game.

>>1222163

FF has always been about innovating on the Japanese RPG. If they stayed the same it wouldn't really be Final Fantasy anymore. I like how SE is continuing to do something new with each one - god knows they're refusing to innovate anywhere else. But if you're looking for traditional FF gameplay there's still other games by the company to try. Make sure to check out Bravely Default, it's coming out in a few months and looks like a classic FF in 3D.

>>1217594
Did it again, this time got them up to the mid to high 70s. Tried fighting Zeromus a few times and he still wipes the floor with me everytime. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

>>1223378
This might be a stupid question, but....

You aren't talking about the intro to the fight where he automatically wipes you, are you?

>>1223380
No, I mean after I use the crystal.

>>1223383
And after the prayer cutscene where all of your friends bring you back to life with the power of friendship?

I am kind of confused because at level 70, there's just no way he should be able to kill your party that fast. Even Rydia can take his ulti at that level.

>>1223392
Every turn he does Big Bang, every turn Rosa casts Curaja. For some reason Curaja isn't healing more than what Big Bang is doing. I can't catch up.

>>1223398

>every turn he does Big Bang

He does it twice in quick succession. The easiest way to get around it is to have Edge/whoever your fastest character is use a Spider Silk to slow him the fuck down, so you have more time to heal between hits. Also, you could get Rosa to cast haste on herself before Zeromus first casts Big Bang.

>>1223419
I never thought to cast slow on him. As for haste, before he does Big Bang he shakes and that gets rid of all buffs. I remember him being easy in the GBA version and I'm sure my levels were much lower.

>>1223423

Which version are you playing? Shake doesn't get rid of buffs, only Black Hole.

>>1223424
PSP like I've said a few times in the thread.

>>1214530
V already got fucked up on iShit with godawful graphics, and VI is soon to follow.

Right now the new "next-gen port" thing is After Years.

>>1223429

I'm playing the same version as you, then. I beat Zeromus with mid 60s levels with the default party. It WAS pretty tough, but it's definitely not impossible. Like I said, use Spider Silk or Slow, makes things a lot easier (Until it uses Black Hole, which negates all buffs and debuffs, meaning you have to recast).

Keep in mind that there are actually 2 levels of Slow. A Spider Silk is essentially the same as casting Slow twice, so if you've got any stored with the Fat Chocobo, I'd get them. If not, it's not THAT big of a deal, you should still be able to do it with just a Slow spell.

>>1214530
I want FF V to be remade in BD:FF's style.

>>1223436
I didn't know there were two levels of slow. Is there two levels of haste and where do I get spider's silk?

>>1223442

Spider's silk is a random drop from enemies, I don't believe it can be bought anywhere. If you haven't picked any up or if you've sold/dropped it, then don't worry about it.

And yes, there are two levels of haste. I believe Hermes Sandals will count as 2 casts of haste, but I'm not sure.