/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1202409

http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_emulators#Emulation_issues

>>1202409

PC version right?

Those character models are very impressive.

>>1202416

I see. So it's inherent to the playstation architecture itself and cannot be rectified. That's pretty sad, actually. These games are not going to age well without some massive recoding done to every individual game. I noticed the "polygon popping" in a Brave Fencer Musashi video I was watching earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0fjduTzDtU

>>1202418
>PC version right?
>Those character models are very impressive.

Yeah, it's the 2012 version purchased through Steam. I'm not using any mods or anything. Just running it in 1080p on the highest settings. I find the character model mods are too much trouble for too little payoff.

>>1202436
>I see. So it's inherent to the playstation architecture itself and cannot be rectified. That's pretty sad, actually. These games are not going to age well without some massive recoding done to every individual game. I noticed the "polygon popping" in a Brave Fencer Musashi video I was watching earlier.

Mednafen and a CRT Monitior are your friend. Mednafen runs it at native resolution. The RetroArch port adds a front end, shader suppoort and superior synch.

The games look pretty close to the originals with it.

>>1202438

And by running at native resolution, it reduces these issues to almost nothing. About as much as it was on the original system.

Compare to HD where there's jitterying textures and distored polygons everywhere.

>>1202438
>Mednafen and a CRT Monitior are your friend. Mednafen runs it at native resolution. The RetroArch port adds a front end, shader suppoort and superior synch.
>The games look pretty close to the originals with it.

That's part of the problem. I really believe that the texture jittering, imprecise floating points, and lack of z-buffering are hurting the entire playstation library immensely in the long run. I have a console, so I don't need emulation.

I just really enjoyed the 2012 PC release of FF7 and noticed how much more immersive it was with the smooth animations and without the visual artifacts of the Playstation version.

There's a bare minimum that a lot of people expect from 3D visuals. I want something visually acceptable on a modern computer. I'm not talking about fancy shaders or anything. Just fixing what is visually broken in the first place.

I suppose it has to be done on a game-by-game basis, which would be a painstakingly massive project with huge legal issues. So sad.

>>1202436
>I see. So it's inherent to the playstation architecture itself and cannot be rectified. That's pretty sad, actually. These games are not going to age well without some massive recoding done to every individual game. I noticed the "polygon popping" in a Brave Fencer Musashi video I was watching earlier.

Play N64. It has z-buffering enabled in all games.

>>1202409
The gpuPeopsOpenGL plugin has a GTE accuracy button, which can improve clipping. Works for RidgeRacer R4 as far I can tell.

>>1202409
edgeblade's soft gpu, the latest version fixes it mostly.

>>1202592

{{citation needed}}

>>1202436

Character models and texture replacements aren't really worth it since they're never 100% consistent and the models keep the same animations that look silly with fancier looking designs.

The only mod really worth putting in for the Steam version is the ogg file replacement to have the original PS1 music instead of the PC MIDI based tunes. I'm actually surprised that SquareEnix hasn't made it available as an option.

>>1202450
I suppose the 2D would look better, but on the other hand, how can you stand the whole "hi-res 3D characters over low-res 2D backdrops" thing when NOT in battle?

>>1202659
3D, I mean.

>>1202642
Last I heard, they pushed an update that replaced the MIDI music with the PS1 music.

>>1202503
>>1202592
gpuBladeSoft's GTE accuracy option does not work well for this game. Not like it would matter even if it did, since it only works if you increase native resolution, and doing so slows the whole thing down a ton.

>>1202661
>Last I heard, they pushed an update that replaced the MIDI music with the PS1 music.

No they didn't.

>>1203171
Yes, they did. http://www.incgamers.com/2013/09/final-fantasy-vii-re-release-updated-ps1-music

>>1202494
>I want to play basketball
>go play football instead

This is just one of the reasons you faggots should not emulate. Play the games on proper hardware as it was meant. Also, buy the games poorfags.

>>1204825

You realize the point of the thread is "the ps1 looks ugly as shit without z-buffering, any emulators that somehow add it to the architecture"? OP just wants to fix native problems with the PS1 that would be there on the actual system.

Get fucked dude.

>>1202418
It's actually not a port of the PS1 game itself, but a port of the mediocre PC port.

Ports of ports, instead of at least a graphical upgrade to meet it's sequels. My how Squeenix has fallen.

The PC port was bad originally but had a much improved translation. They fixed many problems in a patch a year later. In 2012 they tacked on a video settings manager and further improved the PC port for stability. A few months later they finally tacked on PS1 music.

It is absolutely the definitive version of the game now. Looks 20x better than the PSX, has a way better translation, accepts mods if you're one of those people, has achievements and cloud saves, and it way fucking cheaper than the actual PS1 copy. What is not to love?

>>1202661
>Not like it would matter even if it did, since it only works if you increase native resolution, and doing so slows the whole thing down a ton.
Not really no.

>>1202632
edgeblade's soft gpu.

>>1202436
>see. So it's inherent to the playstation architecture itself and cannot be rectified.

I'm not sure. The playstation has the GTE to transform 3d coordinates to 2d ones, which are then plotted by the video processor. Doesn't the GTE get z information as well, or does it get everything pre-sorted?

>>1204842
It won't tickle when shoved up my ass.

>>1204842
ha ha ha, cloud saves, a ha ha haaAAAW!

I'll show myself out now.

>>1204842
>much improved translation

All it did was fix grammar and spelling errors and such. The core localization is the same otherwise, meaning it's still mediocre and inaccurate.

>Looks 20x better than the PSX

High-res polygons without wobbling is nice, I suppose. Shame that the backgrounds are exactly the same, so polygons stand out like crazy and don't blend in.

>>1204842
>A few months later they finally tacked on PS1 music.

I'm not so sure. Did they fix One Winged Angel?

>>1208406
>I'm not so sure. Did they fix One Winged Angel?

HOLY FUCK THEY FIXED IT

>Final Fantasy VII

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqea9cWOn4

So accurate. Great game. I love how they fixed the music in the PC version. I can't wait until the enhanced FF8 port comes out on Steam.