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DOOM THREAD

Last thread >>1165938

Discuss WADs, stories, projects, ask for recommendations, suggest ideas, etc; don't be shy, we're here to help! We have many projects going, and if you want to share your maps or join in whatever thing you may want feel free to do it

If you know about some projects we don't, don't even hesitate to share 'em with us!

======WEBSITE (WITH TONS OF COOL DOOM STUFF, BE SURE TO CHECK THIS SHEIT) ======
http://vrdoom.weebly.com/

FAQ/Pastebin, still updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3

=====NEWS======

-We're two months away from the biggest event of the year - The Cacowards! Who are your nominees?

-Have you tried our very own gameplay mod yet? Spare some minutes and go give FKER a try, you won't regret it!

-Bethesda, for once, is doing something right; go check the Doom-related stuff in their store http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/doom.html

-More than 2 months ago a Doom tournament took place at Quakecon and these were the finals (Jkist3 VS DevastatioN). YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS SHIT! WORLD CLASS DOOMING! http://youtu.be/hcSj0lk-vEo [Embed] [Embed]

-No, you're not hallucinating, Zandronum updated itself to 1.2. http://zandronum.com/download

-OBLIGE v5.10 (WIP) here http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=289 Go wild

-Latest ZDL (v3.2.2.2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?eq4zyb6k8c0o6nc

-Cool ZDoom works you should check: "Pirate Doom" (recently updated), "Project MSX", "The Adventures of Square", "Cyberrunner", "The Space Pirate", "The Guncaster", and "The Trailblazer" (last 6 under WIP). Check the Projects section of the ZDoom forums for more info.

===COMMUNITY===
##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

IRC channel: irc.zandronum.com, channel #vr
The password is in the FAQ.

Best Single Player WADS of 2013 (so far) - If you want pure vanilla maps go check this list!
http://i.imgur.com/yeSiyQo.jpg
http://pastebin.com/XSVn3zzJ

>> No.1173161

What did you guys think of winter's fury?

>> No.1173190

Are there any artfags here? I'd like to see Doomguy dual-wielding chainsaws.

>> No.1173193

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjKA97vVO9E&feature=youtu.be

>> No.1173208
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1173208

>>1173190
When the stars align and I fee like it I am

>> No.1173209

>>1173161
Gameplay is a bit repetitive
Predictable 2spooky4u story
Ran like shit on my comp (not really criticism)
It's a neat concept at least.

Also:
>we retrieved the icon of sin's remains even though he was in the fucking bottom level of hell

>> No.1173212

>>1173190
I'd like to see Doomguy locked in a chainsaw battle with Ash.

>> No.1173223

DTWID-LE thread has been updated. Shots resemble E4M6 I think

>> No.1173234

A shot in the dark, but if he happens to be browsing our threads

Gez, stop being a lazy ass dude, fix whatever part of the body you fucked up and fucking release ZDCMP2 before december already

>> No.1173239

>>1173212
I'd like to see Doomguy and Ash slaughtering demons together while dualwielding chinsaws.

>> No.1173264

>>1173190
Sorry, I only draw Quake looking monsters.

>> No.1173273

>>1173264

Then draw a Shambler doing Shambler things

>> No.1173275

>>1173264

have a shambler jacking off in midair while a scrag is shoving a chainsaw up his ass

>> No.1173281

>>1173273
This, we need some shambling.

>> No.1173285

>>1173273
>>1173275
Nah, realised I have to do homework now.

>> No.1173319

>>1173234
I thought zdcmp was a tormentor667 thing

>> No.1173320

>>1173239
doomguy is ash in a sense. the idea of doom was something like "alien meets the evil dead".

so doomguy is the offspring of ash and Sigourney Weaver... think about that for a while

>> No.1173331

>>1173320
Eh, I suppose you can think about it like from an abstract point of view.

>> No.1173332

>>1173319

Huh? Hell no, ZDCMP2 is way more balanced in the mapping detailing; a lot of people contributed in mapping. We would've discovered immediately if Tormentor were the only one who mapped the whole thing

The whole thing was handed to Gez in order to polish a few things and make an actual release of it, but it has been like that for months and no progress has been shown

>> No.1173340

>>1173332
oh i realise it is a community project and one guy wasn't doing all the mapping. i just was under the impression that it was one guy putting it together, when apparently it is someone else. (i was sure it was tormentor who put together the first zdcmp.) thank you for setting me straight.

>> No.1173356

Sorry about the lack of updates on the Space Pirate. I've been bouncing around several different IRL projects and now my harddrive is dying, so it's a pain in the ass to get anything done. SPACE PIRATE: EVENTUALLY.

>> No.1173361

>>1173193

Dear lord, that framerate....

>> No.1173365

Is there anyone Doomguy CAN'T beat?

>> No.1173364
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1173364

I love homages to classic wads.

>> No.1173385

>>1173356

Take all the time you need brah, no need to worry about it

>> No.1173387

>>1173193
everything about that hurt

>> No.1173396

>>1173356
If your harddrive is dying, PLEASE salvage as much as your work as you can, I'm a particular fan of it.

>> No.1173403

>>1173365
Corvus would give him a run for his money. If doomguy doesn't steal a tome of power

Jesus fuck

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>>1173365
If he dies, he just fights his way back from hell.

>> No.1173443

>>1173365

Corvus, Parias, Daedolon and Baratus. They're all on the same par.

>> No.1173447

Tried Oblige-generated maps, created an episode-long run. How does Oblige determine what weapons to give you? Level 4 greeted me with lots of revenants and hell knights, and chipping them with only shotgun and chaingun is too slow and tedious.

>> No.1173456

I'm planning to start a heretic/hexen map, but I want it to have the Hexen HUB map style, is this possible?

Also, GZDoom has that new mouse function that works on the menus, could that be used to create ingame menus, like an inventory window? Has anyone tried this?

>> No.1173463

>>1173365
>>1173403
>>1173413
>>1173443
you're forgetting caleb, too

>> No.1173474

Hello,

I have problems coding the auto map generator for my CubeDoom mod. CubeDoom itself is finished, but I want to test it on a large map. So if anyone has awesome skills in C/C++ or even Java please tell me. I will teach you about UDMF and how it works.

Sincerely, Anon

>> No.1173494

>>1173320
groovy

>> No.1173517

>>1173456
>but I want it to have the Hexen HUB map style, is this possible?
Yes.

>> No.1173626
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1173626

Should Doom have a bigger lore?

>> No.1173631

>>1173626

As long as it doesn't get in the way of gameplay, sure.

>> No.1173638

>>1173626
>>1173631
I still want the council of Archviles to be the true rulers of Hell.

>> No.1173656

>>1173626
Maybe a little.
I always liked the first Doom novel, even if it was kinda hokey and weird at places (though, not as much as the later novels).

>>1173638
I kind of figure them to be just special units, so to speak, and that the Baphomet was the ruler.

>> No.1173664

how the shit do you make a custom palette for doom?

I've been trying to figure this out for a bit, now, with no luck.

>> No.1173674

>>1173664

Download the latest beta of SLADE, it allows you to create and edit a custom palette

But be warned, since the beta crashes even when you move the cursor to any fucking part

XWE can do the work too, but ehhh

>> No.1173680

>>1173674
I kind of miss the simplicity of XWE, but it wont run on my computer. ( ._.)

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1173682

>>1173674
>he suggests XWE

>>1173680
>this guy using smileys

When will the DOOM babbies leave? The only reason you faggots play DOOM is BrutalDoom, made by a donkey AKA Sgt. Mark the glorious winged faggot.

Kill yourselves, pathetic loser scum. Brutal Doom is pleb tier.

>> No.1173701

/r&tg/
what is your favourite wad, and why is it New Gothic?

>> No.1173705
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1173705

>>1173701

FACK da newgothic no good slaughterwad motherfucker

Joking aside, a decent wad but not for everyone's liking

>> No.1173719

>>1173701
>what is your favorite wad

Scythe 2

>and why is it New Gothic

But anon, you are the only one who likes New Gothic.

>> No.1173724

Speaking of Slaughterwads, are there any ones out there that both look good and never starve you for ammo?

>> No.1173735

>>1173626
Damn, that pic is cute.

The artist isn't a bad mapper either.

>> No.1173739

>>1173701
Scythe 1
Also: >wat is New Gothic

>> No.1173741

>>1173724
>and never starve you for ammo?

but anon, there's plenty of cellpacks all over the place for you to blast every single monster with the BFG! It isn't the mapper's fault that you couldn't find the BFG in that secret!

>> No.1173749

>>1173656
>revenents mocking him in pink shorts
>zombies smelling of lemons
yeah... it really was

>> No.1173758

>>1173674
thank you. had an older version of slade, and it wasn't working for me.

>> No.1173762

Doom on the 32x or Doom 64? Also best console port of Doom?

>> No.1173767

>>1173762
Best port? PSX imo. The added ambience and stuff really made it feel like a different game while not changing the core mechanics. However, I didn't like the cut-content and stuff like no archviles and slow revenants.

>> No.1173768

>>1173767
Ok, I recently installed a modchip in my ps1. Downloading it now.

>> No.1173792

>>1173767
Is there a PC version of Club Doom, like a one-map wad or something? I wanna play it again but with actually threatening revenants this time.

>> No.1173796

>>1173474
Hello, it's me again,

Noone knows C/C++ or Java? You can also tell me if you know someone who knows them and knows a lot about these programming languages

Sincerely, Anon

>> No.1173802

>>1173792
You can download the PSX Doom TC and use the addon for PC monster stats if you want fast Revenants

>> No.1173818

>>1173796
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25016&hilit=map

this should help?

>> No.1173819

Howdy /vr/ im playing doom for the first time. Does anyone here still play the Doom MP sourceport from your guys incredibly helpful FAQ? (thanks for that, btw)

>> No.1173875

>>1173802
Seems like too much trouble just to play one map. Never mind.

>> No.1173937

>>1173819
>Does anyone here still play the Doom MP sourceport from your guys incredibly helpful FAQ? (thanks for that, btw)
Zandronum? Yes. Lots of people.

/vr/-specific servers aren't too often anymore, but we still hang around a lot.

>> No.1173939

>>1173796
I don't know these languages, but what do you need done?

>> No.1173942

>>1173796
I have an extremely basic amount of coding skill in C++, and I mean, 64 pages into a 381 page textbook of basic skills, whilst 44 of those pages are just instructions on how to set it up for all major systems. I should really get on that. Perhaps you could look up C++ guides to what you wish to do, or even buy/download a guide (I am using "Jumping Into C++" by Alex Allain) but I am certainly of no help. Sorry.

>> No.1173965

>>1173937
Thanks. Btw, does anyone know how to get ZDOOM to allow me to look up and down with the mouse?

>> No.1173969

>>1173965
Turn on always mouselook.

>> No.1174031

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=719991

>> No.1174048

>>1174031
As I understand, Mark is kind of a jerk, so I could see them banning him, but permanently?

>> No.1174049

>>1173796
I know C, C++ and Java (Bachelors of Science in Computer Science.) I could show you some good resources to learn how to program?

>> No.1174101

>>1174048
He was already on thin ice after everything that's happened over the years...

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>> No.1174118

good alternative sprites for weapons?

>> No.1174121

>>1174116
The fuck is Scroton smoking this time?
It was bad enough when he had to be dropping twenty hits of acid a day to make Fractal Doom.

>> No.1174131

>>1174116
>capitalizing every word
>Udder
>actually explaining the Doom was made by id Software on a Doom forum

>> No.1174138

>>1174118
>>1174118

Perkistan's Smooth Weapon Pack

>> No.1174142

>>1174138
looks nice, but i meant alternative skins

i actually prefer the low frame ssg animation, feels like a beat is going after each frame

>> No.1174148

>>1173796
I know only the fundamentals of programming from doing a paper on Java programming. Never really pursued programming as a personal hobby, though.

>> No.1174147

>>1174116
Wait, who is this guy and... and why does he capitalize every word? He... he doesn't need to do that, in fact, he SHOULDN'T do that.

What the fuck is he trying to convey?!

>> No.1174150

>>1174121
He's just pretending to be retarded

I think he may have done something similar on Doomworld when he told them about pol.wad

>> No.1174157

>>1174121
>>1174147
>>1174131

This is from over a month ago.

After that it was the shoot and boot fiasco. Then >>1174031 earlier tonight, now he has a Fractal Doom thread up. He's basically just a ZDF shitposter.

>> No.1174159

>>1174157
he also made /pol/.wad

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>>1174159

So a ZDF shitposter and a neo-nazi.

Sounds like someone else we know.

>> No.1174168

>>1174167
taking words out of my mouth
making a jokewad does not mean he believes what he put in the wad

he's basically having a giggle

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1174183

>>1174168
sooory couldn't resist.

>> No.1174221 [DELETED] 

Where's the Gone Home Doom .wad?

>> No.1174236

>>1174221

have u tried in the foolz archive if someone has been talking about it? i assumed impse never considered that thing a serious thing so it shouldn't probably be in the /vr/ wad list in the first place

>> No.1174243

>>1173796
Never done anything in Java, but I have lots of experience with C++ and C#. (The latter of which has pretty much the same syntax as java) Not sure what you'd count as awesome, but here's an example of something I've done:
http://retrooftheweek.net/misc/combat%20b1.zip

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1174257

BDSE v19 is (mostly) done. In addition to all the changes inherent to SE:

>Normal and Berserk attacks have been differentiated and have different impact sounds and effects
>Berserk attacks now discriminate between wall, monster, and barrel
>Super Kicks can now knock over burning barrels in addition to normal kicks
>Super Kicks can still nut-crunch Hell Nobles
>Super Kicks can still decapitate dying enemies
>Left and Right Side Kicks now have proper properties. For example, while you're zerking you can do Super Side Kicks, which does everything you expect them to do.
>Exploding heads have their own sound instead of the vanilla gibbing sound
>BFG secondary fire fixed to be more effective against the Spider Mastermind. Before, it would just fly right through the head area.
>Tactical Rolling and DoomGuy Talk is restored. One Liners are also more responsive than before.
>v18 sprites restored
>Kept original Plasma Gun sprites with scatter shot secondary
>Mancubus gun's secondary mode spends slightly less ammo
>Revenant and Mancubus gun's max ammo increased to 60/120, pickup amount to 12
>Kicked burning barrels now have their own sound effect
>Tweaked burning sound to loop properly
>Thrown barrels now have proper properties akin to other explosives

http://www.mediafire.com/download/v6qbb8b92albugj/Brutal_Doom_v19_SE.zip

More substantial changelog included in the zip.

>> No.1174275

>>1173701
please do not ask questions worded like this, it's a form of trolling.

>> No.1174282

>>1174031
haha, scroton's posting reminds me of reading FYAD a few years ago, before it died

>> No.1174284

>>1174221
i found this in my browser history

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0uh6wpq2p3k6ixx/GoneHomo.zip

>> No.1174289

>>1174236
the /vr/ wad list, i assume you mean the pastebin link, seems to be somewhat incomplete, for example, deuce's map, you know the one that has "have fun" written on the floor, that's not in there either, unless it is, and i just didn't recognise the title, although, come to think of it, i don't know if it even had a title

>> No.1174292

>>1174284
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/0uh6wpq2p3k6ixx/GoneHomo.zip
Looks like a mockup of the main entry room, hallway and attic of the house. I'd love a full-on spoof of Gone Home though.

>> No.1174293

>>1174284

is that the version where impse pasted all the textures he used trying to make the wad freedoom comp.?

>> No.1174296

>>1173356
I was actually just about to ask about Space Pirate. Well good to know it's still happening. What other projects are you working on?

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>> No.1174327

>>1174318
killin monsters is a good job, mate. its chillinging wirk, out of doors

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1174338

I saw a video of the Xbox Doom II level "Betray" & holy shit... It looks like a map maker's first level... It looks easy but god awfully made. I'm glad you can't access it normally.

>> No.1174410

>>1174406
So it's dropped by SS I assume?

>> No.1174413

>>1174410

Yes.
It's worthless.

>> No.1174417

>>1174413
Why's that? It's faster than the regular AR.

>> No.1174352
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1174352

Guys, someone needs to make a mod where the all "unactivated" enemies are doing some fun activity to keep entertained (if they can do so, that is.)

>Imps playing cards
>Cacodemons shooting at something for target practice
>Demons eating a corpse
>Demonic gay closet orgy
>Revenants boxing each other
>Hell knights playing catch with a human's head
>Various enemies fucking around with weapons on the ground

Guys.

>> No.1174356

>>1174338
imagine you're some 11 year old cunt and you get hold of doom and make a map for it, then 15 years later somehow you're working in the video game industry and your company is contracted to port doom to xbox, and you're still a little faggot so you pollute the best game ever made with your shitty first map from when you were 11. it's a fucking disgrace

>> No.1174357

>>1174338
Post the vid.

>> No.1174360

>>1174318
I kind of wish I could have a job like that.
Life would be so simple.

>> No.1174361

>>1174357
/watch?v=e4sGFUHXSIk
>>1174356
This sounds about right. Like, holy shit. I don't know HOW it was even thought of being put into the game.

>> No.1174363

>>1174357
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4sGFUHXSIk

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>>1174338
You wanna know what's worse than that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VgvMQGgqg

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1174380

>>1174361
>>1174365
It's Nuclear Winter all over again.

>> No.1174457

>>1174417
Since Mark chose to take out the Brutal Nazis I'm not sure they're acquirable through normal means.

>>1174257
I forgot to mention that in v19SE the Revenant weapon's primary now tracks enemies. I keep forgetting shit. The updated file has been reuploaded.

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>>1174365
I don't even want to speak of this.
Jesus Christ, how awful.

>> No.1174471

I'm not sure what you guys think of Let's Play channels, but how would you guys feel about the Game Grumps + Ross playing a Doom game?
It'd end horribly, I know, but I'm curious about it.

>> No.1174475

>>1174471
I think it'd be an interesting idea for a knock-off channel, i.e. a few guys co-oping various wads, but GG/ST would just be embarrassing. Not to mention the shit it would bring to the playerbase.

>> No.1174474

>>1174471
no and yes
no because they suck
yes because it might bring new people to the game

>> No.1174476

>>1174471

It'll go one of two ways.
Either they're absolute idiots and we have a blast making fun of them, or they're actually decent and introduce more players to the scene.

Win/win in my book.

What's that, you say? What if the people they introduce are faggots?
We're all faggots here.

>> No.1174397

>>1174352
Could totally be done.
You'd have to do a fair bit of Decorate and ACS, not to mention sprite-work, but it could be done.

>> No.1174398

What is weapon 9 in Brutal Doom?

An MP40?

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1174403

>>1174398
Whoops, I meant to say 0.

Pic related, this gun.

>> No.1174406

>>1174403
MP40.

>> No.1174486

>>1174476

>"But I don't want to post on a forum full of faggots," the Doomer remarked.

>"Oh, you can't help that," said the mod: "we're all faggots here. I'm a faggot. You're a faggot."

>"How do you know I'm a faggot?" said the Doomer.

>"You must be," said the mod, "or you wouldn't have come here."

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1174494

>>1174486
>>1174476

>> No.1174503

>>1174475
>>1174476
>Make Barry play while Ross, Danny, & Arin sit back & talk
>Win/win
I honestly think Barry could do a whole play through of the game. It'd be a decent length series, but as long as he was playing I think it could work.

>> No.1174508

Man, fuck The Pit

>> No.1174513

>>1174508
Man, fuck Limbo.

>> No.1174514

>>1174513
Man, fuck The Focus
No seriously fuck it that level was so horrible

>> No.1174517

>>1174514
really? map04? what did you not like about it?

>> No.1174521

>>1174514
Man, fuck The Suburbs

>> No.1174527

>>1174521
Man, fuck Doom II.

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1174529

>>1174514
I feel ya, bro.
>>1174517
Enemy placement & overall design.
>>1174521
I'm on that level right fucking now.
>Mfw Doom II mid-game as a whole

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1174534

AT LAST, MY BROTHERS

The Doom 64 Speedrun has been finally uploaded to Youtube. For those who don't know, SpeedRunsLive ran a charity marathon months ago and Doom 64 was choosed as one of the main games to be showcased

This dude got a lower time compared to his (allegedly) WR but for some reason they aren't acknowledging this. Oh, and by the way this is a "Watch Me Die" run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54T21LE1HbY

This dude pulls some neat tricks so you might not want to miss it

>> No.1174536

>>1174534
Doom 64 is too dark, can't see shit.

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>>1174534
FUCK YEEEEEEES
I know what I'm watching tonight.

>> No.1174546

>>1174534
I'm not a huge speedrun watcher but this interests me, is there any version of the footage that focuses on the game and isn't split with a room of neckbeards?

>> No.1174547

>>1174517
>Open door
>Oh boy, more dark brown and grey
>suddenly get raped by chaingunners that are too far away to SSG and it's too dark to hit them with the chaingun
>rush forward to blast their asses
>shotgunners in the fucking room that you can't shoot into most of the time shoot your ass
>make it to the chaingunners and kill them, hit the switch and shit
>other fuckers start shooting you through the mesh
>Fuck, whatever, run down there and blast those niggers
>get the blue key and go to the door
>oh boy, it's a pitch black hallway full of monsters and turning on the light barely helps
>oh boy, crate maze
>oh boy, then I have to stand on a platform with six chaingunners in a ring around me before I can get to the end room

>> No.1174548

>>1174536
That's not Doom 3.

>> No.1174549

>>1174546

I don't think so, what you're seeing is the direct stream feed. They usually don't store the game footage seperately but if you go to their Archive.org website you can download an MP4 file with an option to hear just the audio from the game and nothing else.

>> No.1174550

>>1174548

Haw haw haw. The footage is still shitty.

>> No.1174553

>>1174549

fuck, forgot to post the link

https://archive.org/details/SummerGamesDoneQuick2013

>> No.1174581

>>1174529
I'm still trying to slog through Evilution.

It's a nightmare of large boxlike rooms full of enemies, confusing level design, backtracking, point-blank chaingunner ambushes, archviles, and every level is so long that its a campaign unto itself.

It's like they looked at all of the worst level design from Doom II and said "yeah, I think people want more of that."

>> No.1174592
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>>1174581
That campaign breaks nearly every fucking rule I set for myself when doom-mapping. Every teleporter leads to a monster box, every key is a trap or leads to a trap, chaingunners you can't autoaim at with hidden arch viles resing them constantly, switches with no indication what they do, platforming in doom, every other monster is a revenant. THere's more I'm sure.

It's not that fun. But I'm beating it anyway.

>> No.1174667

Woah, Brutal Doom has new monsters.

Try "summon lordbelphegor" and "summon juggernaut" in the console.

Do you guys know about this? Am I just slowpoking?

>> No.1174674

Well, here's a decorate script that makes SS drop MP40's.

-----
actor MP40guy : WolfensteinSS replaces WolfensteinSS
{
DropItem "SecretWeapon_MP40", 16
DropItem "Clip", 255
}
-----

It's not much, but now you can legitimately get an MP40.

>> No.1174676

>>1174667
Those have been in for like 4 years now.

>> No.1174678
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1174678

>>1174676
Do they ever appear in-game?

>> No.1174679

>>1174678
I think Belphegors are Skulltag/Zandronum exclusive.

No idea on juggernauts.

>> No.1174686

>>1174678
>>1174679
No and no.
They're seriously just monsters made for brutal doom that nobody ever used.

>> No.1174701

>>1174686
juggernaut is crazy broken anyway

>> No.1174739

>>1174686
a shame really, i just tested the lordbelphegor (in v19 SE, if that changes anything) and found it pretty cool

>> No.1174786

>>1174739
If you feel like limiting your mod to brutal doom, feel free to use those in whatever map packs you make.

>> No.1174793

>>1174786
yeah, i guess that's the problem...
i don't know much about these things, but wouldn't it be possible to include a regular version of the monster in a map that gets "upgraded" by the one in BD when you use it?

>> No.1174813

>>1174365
it's like the creator tried to use every possible theme, shape and texture without sexy results

>> No.1174836

>>1174534

He says right in the video that his PB is 1:10:58. It's not a WR.

>> No.1174840
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>>1174361
>This sounds about right. Like, holy shit. I don't know HOW it was even thought of being put into the game.
It *is* right, if the doomwiki is to be believed...

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/E1M10:_Sewers_%28Doom%29
>[...] was originally a 1994 level, contained in the file SEWERS.WAD, intended for a nine-level episode replacement, and was designed by David Calvin, lead programmer of the Doom 3 port with Vicarious Visions, alongside David Blanshine.

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP33:_Betray_%28Doom_II%29
>[...] was originally a 1995 level designed by Michael Bukowski, a programmer for the Doom 3 port with Vicarious Visions.

I dunno how old those guys were in 94/95 but the main point stands.

>>1174380
>It's Nuclear Winter all over again.
What's nuclear winter?

>> No.1174842

>>1174679
Belphegors are the red and black barons from Skulltag, and the one in Brutal Doom was a replacement for them.

>> No.1174846

>>1174836
It's the WR for a live single-session run. His personal best wasn't recorded either.

>> No.1174847

>>1174508
>fucking pit
it's the only level with the best music

>> No.1174852

>>1174846

I don't even fucking know anymore. He has the WR listed as 1:19:00 by himself, on his own twitch page. Which makes no sense, given that he got 1:15 at the marathon.

>> No.1174860

>>1174840

Duke Nukem Nuclear Winter, basically shovelware

>> No.1174883

Has anyone tried Brutal Doom - Beyond hell and earth yet?

>> No.1174894

>>1174852
That one was the previous WR run. All in one sitting, recorded live.

>> No.1174948

>>1174847
Music does not carry a terrible level.
Also IDMUS09

>> No.1174952

>>1174840
I didn't read the conversation; what's this level/map called and what's it from? I don't recognize it

>> No.1174960

>>1174678
These monsters (and other guns like the Grenade Launcher, Railgun, and BFG10k) were supposed to replace Skulltag stuff when BD was a Skulltag-only mod. With the death of ST, these new monsters and weapons were left to rust forever. You still can find them in-game if you load a map made for Skulltag, and use the mutator that replaces skulltag actors with BD stuff.

Also mark did a patch for NeoDoom that allows you to play it with BD, and face these monsters and find these guns in-game.

>> No.1174964

I decided to try out Playstation Doom wad (it's basically PSX Doom for GZDoom, found it on doomwiki). First, the levels feel dumbed down. Second, Revenants are so sluggish there. Is it just a bug of the wad or were they that slow in PSX Doom as well?

>>1174952
Doom's E1M10 and Doom 2's MAP33, both first appeared in Xbox version.

>> No.1174967

>>1174952
>I didn't read the conversation
It's all contained within this thread: >>1174338 >>1174356 >>1174361. The parent post's two doomwiki links should provide the background.

>> No.1174968

>>1174964
They were that slow on PSX.
Also no archviles.

>> No.1174971

>>1174964
>>1174967
aha, I thought it was something like that
yeah, I heard of that there was also that sewers map in it too, right?

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>> No.1175016
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>> No.1175019
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>> No.1175031

>>1173456
God, I loved Heretic so much more than Hexen even though there was technically more stuff in Hexen. I guess I just didn't like the level design.

>> No.1175043
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>> No.1175060

>>1175009
>>1175016
>>1175019
>>1175043
are you (plural possibly) naming your screenshots deliberately so i don't have to complain for once about people not posting the wad name?

because if so, thank you!

>> No.1175074

>>1175060
Yes sir.

>> No.1175082

>>1175074
what would be nice is if one could configure the engine to put the filename of the wad in the screenshot name automatically

Screenshot_Game_Date_Time is not ultimately very helpful

>> No.1175140

>>1175082
that'd be hard to do unless you load only one wad, i guess

>> No.1175163

>>1175140
why would the engine not know the name of the wad a given lump came from?

so it just looks up say map28, goes okay that is lump 341 from sf2012.wad, so name the screenshot Screenshot-Doom-sf2012.wad-map28-20131103-124057.png.

or whatever.

>> No.1175179 [DELETED] 

Why do you hate Brutal Doom?
I really love it. It makes the weak monsters stronger and raises their intelligence. They can now even dodge! And lets not forget about the fatalities. They are freakin awesome, yeah! Gore and blood spilling everywhere. I f**king love it. OH and the weapons are really awesome too. I like how Sgt. Mark IV made everything. It sure took a lot of time.

>> No.1175189 [DELETED] 

>>1175179
Hey.
Fuck you.

>> No.1175192 [DELETED] 

>>1175179
Sgt Mark / DKG pls

>> No.1175195 [DELETED] 
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>>1175179
>freaking
>f**king
>yeah!

>yfw

>> No.1175209 [DELETED] 

>>1175179
Everybody has their own reasons for hating/liking Brutal Doom. It's not universal that /vr/ hates Brutal Doom, there are plenty of fans here, the anti-fans just tend to be a bit vocal in their outrage and apparently think Mark is Satan himself.

>> No.1175207 [DELETED] 

>>1175192
What? Doomkartguy is actually Mark?

>> No.1175210 [DELETED] 

>>1175179
>>1175192
>>1175207

We can smell your german ass from here. Stop

>> No.1175225

What has been the longest map you've ever played, /vr/?

>> No.1175234

>>1175225
the original Deus Vult, i expect.

>> No.1175240

>>1175225
Scythe map30 for me. Spent an hour and a half running in circles and watching most of the monsters kill each other.

>> No.1175253

>>1175225
Castle of Evil if you like really ancient old school maps. I can't believe this thing is from 1994, made with DOS editors that crashed if you looked at them the wrong way.
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=1021

>> No.1175362

>>1175225

Holy Hell because of dat waiting as well as rip and tearan

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>>1174667
>Brutal Doom
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY

>> No.1175370 [DELETED] 

>>1175367
>implying Brutal Doom is shit
toplel

>> No.1175374 [DELETED] 
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1175374

>mfw people think Cyberruner is an awesome mod
>mfw people play who dun it
>mfw people hate brutal doom
are you niggers serious?

>> No.1175389 [DELETED] 

>>1175370
>>1175374
This is why we can't have nice things

>> No.1175418
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1175418

>open up doomseeker
>filter for samsara servers
>only the 0.28b addon servers are populated

>> No.1175430

>>1175418
gotta have dat caleb

>> No.1175553
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1175553

In the process of making an animated water texture. This.. looks kind of disturbing as of now. The crazy colors are only there to help me edit.

>> No.1175575

>>1175553
What the fuck is that thing?

>> No.1175585

>>1175575
Still water looks kind of like circles of highlight that.. zoom into themselves? like a fractal. I'm trying to do that. Those are the first 4 or so steps looping back and forth.

>> No.1175625

>>1175585
the best water flat is the one from Epic2.wad

>> No.1175626
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1175626

What's that? A decent wad played on the DOOM gauntlet?!?

NO WAY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGHYQXBDqw8

Source: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=12098

Decent stuff won't get uploaded that often, I promise.

>> No.1175632

>>1175585
If you want to have translucent water that distorts what's under it, you're looking for another engine, I don't think any common Doom sourceport supports a filter like that.

>> No.1175643
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1175643

>>1175553
is this seapunk

>> No.1175651
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1175651

>>1175625
I'll go check that. My last try was this one, but the only animation in it is from using warp2 in animdefs.

>>1175632
No, that's not necessary. I just want the tiny waves you see in the highlights to behave properly.

>> No.1175670
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>>1175632
>>1175651
Here's a gif of what I mean with "zooms into itself"

>> No.1175676

>>1175651
Looks kinda nifty. Willing to show us a couple of other screenshots?

>> No.1175692

>>1175651
Did you know that you can combine animated tiles with warp effects?

>> No.1175713
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1175713

>>1175676
Sure, I've got a couple. I've a thread up on zdoom forums too if you wanna look the project up.
>>1175692
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. Since I can't find any good animated tiles I've resolved to make some myself.

>> No.1175724

>>1175713
I'm quite interested!

>> No.1175718
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1175718

Need another texture for this area :P

>> No.1175725
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1175725

This nigger is 100% made of 3D floors. There's no upper textures.

>> No.1175732

>>1175725
Ah, I remember this grand architecture! It looks 10 times better with custom textures!

You should consider making the cliffs a bit more detailed, and maybe a more muted color for the windows, but it's looking quite fantastic still.

>> No.1175734 [DELETED] 

>>1175718
>>1175725
>:P
>nigger
Have some manners, please.

>> No.1175741

>>1175713
That looks cool as hell.

>> No.1175746

>>1175225
Eternal Doom map 30.

>> No.1175759

>>1175734
Where do you think you are?

>> No.1175763

>>1175759
Certainly not /b/.

>> No.1175767
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1175767

>>1175732
More architecture isn't really my focus right now, even though it's what I enjoy most. Should really work on my code, but I'm running into walls without help. If anyone's an ACS god here and willing to help I'd be really grateful!
>>1175741
Thanks. I'm actually considering moving over to unity, but I'm not sure. It'd open up the possibility to work with physics and in the distant future maybe going commercial. If I get like a team or something. Still want to finish a proof-of-concept in Doom I think.

<- Mock-up of hud ideas. Also voxel lanterns.

>> No.1175771

I have a question regarding zdoom

Does it make a difference if I pick freedoom, ultimatedoom, etc when I open up a WAD?.

>> No.1175776

>>1175771
Some WADs might require a different IWAD to be used.

>> No.1175780

>>1175776
Alright. Thanks.

>> No.1175782

>>1175767
>going commercial
Nope
if you have any resources used from commercial games, even modified? NOPE (which it seems you do have)

>> No.1175784

How do I make WAD?

>> No.1175789

>>1175784
Try Google.

>> No.1175794

>>1175771
by default always use doom2, as it has all the textures and monsters will be using.

>> No.1175795

>>1175784
Blast it, Terminus did such a nice job with making that modmaking tutorial and nobody ever reads it?
Does anyone even read the FAQ? Seriously, most of the questions asked here frequently in it. Yet people still don't read it, what the fuck

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>>1175782
Well it's obviously WIP, I'm planning to make all assets myself. The bric, grass, and cliff texture are made by me.

>> No.1175859

>>1175802

You cannot sell games made in the ZDoom/Zandronum engine due to the licensing of the open source code and various assets like FMod.

>> No.1175865

>>1175859
Yes, that's why I mentioned that as one argument to migrate to Unity.

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>> No.1175923

>>1174257
Will you incorporate the mutators Mark still has yet to release into Sperglord Edition when he releases them?

>> No.1175934
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1175934

>> No.1176003
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1176003

The most detailed fanpic 88alice has made so far, IMO

>> No.1176015
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>>1176003
Nice.

>> No.1176020

>>1176015
fuck is this

>> No.1176023

>>1176003
Does she have a tumblr? I'd like to follow her.

>> No.1176026

>>1176023

nope, the closest she has is a twitter and the pixiv account

>> No.1176037

>>1176023
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5143909

>> No.1176046

>>1176026

>doesn't have a tumblr
>likes doom

she has the old lady beat on both counts
I think I'm in love

>> No.1176059

>>1176046

There's nothing wrong with having a tumblr.

>> No.1176074

Make way motherfuckers, best track coming through!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43aj3ag3H1c

>> No.1176120

>>1176074
You've got to be kidding, this will always be the best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWDSvNSzlA

>> No.1176124

My least favorite level in DOOM II would be Refueling Base, it's worse when you start off with a low ammo count on your weapons.

What's your thoughts on Refueling Base?

>> No.1176131

>>1176124
I think it's alright.

>> No.1176140
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1176140

Anyone got a wad with levels inspired from asian architecture and such? I just found a Shadow Warrior weapons wad and I wanna give it a try on something else than the original Doom episodes.

>> No.1176167

>>1176140

I think theres aa map in requiem or alien vendetta or another classic megawad that has an asian house with paper walls

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>>1176140
Batman Doom MAP06.

>> No.1176207

>>1176140

There's one map in Deus Vult II.

That's pretty much it.

It's very underrepresented in Doom modding.

>> No.1176230

>>1176046
>>1176059
Good luck, she is a Jap on Pixiv. She might not want filthy gaijin piggu around.

To date I wonder what if the Japs loved Doom as it is, or what if they had made it?

>> No.1176260

>>1175651
What wad is that?

>> No.1176275

>>1176230
There was a link to Doom thread on 2ch here a while ago. It's basically the same but less hate-boners.

>> No.1176285

>>1176275
Also loads of kawaiidesu ASCII art of DoomGuy.

>> No.1176295

>>1176275
http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamef/1366801768/

>> No.1176304

So what's everyone's favorite Doom 2 level?

Everyone always says the map design isn't as good as Doom 1, and maybe it isn't, but there must be something you like about it...

Also, has anyone made a mod that changes Doom's music to the SNES music? Or the 3DO?

>> No.1176308

>>1176304
Map23

>> No.1176310

>>1176295
_
/=\
( (___) )
,.--''"''--''"''-., __,,..-、 / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
|---、 | _,,..-''"_,.-'" < Damn, Japan's got some nice emotes
/_/-,,..-''" _,,..-) \____________
\,,..-''" _,,..-''|"''''"
\,,..''")--''" |
|、: ;| ; : ,|
| |_,,..,,_|
\__|_,,..,,/
| | --|
(__|==/
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>> No.1176313

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=37446

the autists invade.

>> No.1176314

>>1176310
Emoticons are an art. If you ever meet some reverse weeaboo who thinks Japan has contributed nothing to the arts, all you have to say is (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

>> No.1176315

>>1176310
That just looks all messed up on my end

>> No.1176341

>>1176315
4chan doesn't support fix-width font on the regular boards

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>>1176313

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>>1174257
ga

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1176353

>>1176310
Can't see shit, captain

>> No.1176352

>>1176345
>2.6.1
You need to upgrade man.

>> No.1176361
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1176361

Everybody, I think I got a neat idea, I need to see how many people would be interested:
Let's make a /vr/ map together. I'll set up a stream and start mapping, everyone says what they'd like to have in the map and I make it happen. Who would be down with that?

>> No.1176363

>>1176361
Good idea in my opinion. Be careful with advertising streams though.

>> No.1176362

>>1176345
1.8.02 is out, man

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1176368

>>1176361
MAKE THE WHOLE MAP SHAPED LIKE A GIANT DICK & BALLS!

>> No.1176373

>>1176368
if you guys can pull a good map with that concept...

>> No.1176374
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1176374

>>1176363
Damn forgot about that. Is it ok to post a pastebin with a link to the stream?

>>1176368
I'll do it. I swear I'll do it.

>> No.1176375

>>1176373
It's just shaped like a dick. Doesn't mean the design can't be good!

>> No.1176382

>>1176374
No idea. Could always post in the IRC, but that's a bit limiting. Could just go for it and see if the mods don't feel like being dicks about it.

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>>1176314
>MFW I realized what that is
That a really cute way of saying FUCK YOUR SHIT

>> No.1176402
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1176402

>tfw no /vr/oom on Zandronum to play Ghoul's World with

It's too spooky for me to play alone ;_;

>> No.1176403

>>1176313
what

>> No.1176405

>>1176313
>sonic
>mlp
>poorest ms-paint skills ever
Oh dear.

>> No.1176408

>>1176313
>>1176342
>>1176403
>>1176405
/v/ pls go

>> No.1176421

>>1176313
What the holy fuck

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1176425

>>1176374

>> No.1176432

>>1176313
>Yippee ki-la vista, bachachas!

>> No.1176450
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>>1176260
One I'm making. "HIC SUNT DRACONES" is the working title.


Also: fucking finally managed to make an animated water flat from scratch. It needs adjusting, but damn this is going somewhere. Apparently After Effects was the solution.

>> No.1176451

>>1176425

Fucking ace

>> No.1176452

>>1174257
MY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM

Sounds:
>You've replaced some things with higher quality ones. That's neat I suppose
>New title screen music. Kool
>But the game music is the same so it's like, nothing
>AR sounds neat, reload sounds better, I remember complaining about that

Gameplay:
>Could you, like, cut the delay on Kicking and Rolling Left and Right? It would make them more useful. Especially rolling. It's ridiculous.
>Hey, try adding forward and back rolling, idk
>It seems like bullets take forever to kill people, but I guess that's because you've restored some of the damage balance

>> No.1176459 [DELETED] 

>>1176313
Why do furfags ruin everything?

>> No.1176462 [DELETED] 

>>1176459
>>>/v/

>> No.1176464

>>1176015
>>1176425

Who are ya?

>> No.1176465 [DELETED] 

>>1176462
>>1176408
>>>/mlp/

>> No.1176470

>>1176425
Now I want to see a WWI game where doom monsters invade for no reason.

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>> No.1176475 [DELETED] 

>>1176459
>>1176465
who let the /v/irgins out of containment?

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>>1174257
I've been tearing my hair out trying to square away that bug where if you kick-decapitate a dude while zerking and you're too close you end up dealing LOADS of self-damage and potentially killing yourself.

Well I've finally tracked down what's causing it and fixed it right the fuck up. The problem is also present in the vanilla Brutal Doom v19 as well.

>> No.1176540

>>1175923
If you're talking about the sprites, oneliners, and rolling, they're already back in.

>>1176452
>Could you, like, cut the delay on Kicking and Rolling Left and Right?

I'm currently experimenting ways to make the special moves more responsive without breaking everything, so expect that to happen soon maybe. Same goes for the kicks. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way for the game to pick up where you left off after performing a kick, and can only cram an opportunity to do one where the code allows it without messing up other sequences. I'm pretty much constantly tinkering and testing so maybe I'll figure something out.

>> No.1176546

>>1176540
Oh well fuck me, I guess I missed the previous update. Though, won't the mutators Mark is coming out with include newer sprites or something?

>> No.1176551

>>1176546
IIRC he's just re-adding them back in with some adjustments maybe. When the time comes I'll take a look at them and integrate those if there are any improvements.

>> No.1176552

>SectorCraft

Would someone explain to me why does this exist? If I wanted to build stuff a-la Minecraft I WOULD use Minecraft

Also Doom Builder is so goddamn easy to use, you can learn how to map in vanilla and replicate E1M1 in 3 hours or less

>> No.1176558

>>1176551
I don't get why he wouldn't just leave the v18 sprites in while he worked on the v19 ones, but meh, Mark is kinda unpredictable.

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>>1176514
So you actually squished a bug that was persistent in vanilla brutal doom? I may be seeking your advice on coding in the near future.

>> No.1176563

>>1176559
It was a fucking annoying one too. Huge delays between certain special actions.

Speaking of special actions, can you not take enemies as human shields anymore in Brutal Doom? Whenever I try I just end up punching their head off.

>> No.1176568

>>1176559
I'm just learning as I go, though Mark himself doubtlessly knows more than I do about decorate.

>> No.1176574

>>1176568
>though Mark himself doubtlessly knows more than I do about decorate.

well, uh, about that

anyway you should go on irc if you aren't already, there are a couple of decorate-knowledgeable people on there

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>>1176568
>though Mark himself doubtlessly knows more than I do about decorate.

>> No.1176613

>>1176552
It would be a fun gametype for 2 teams to have 2 minutes to build forts then attack and defend flags.

>> No.1176614
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1176614

Yo, Doomers.
What are the most erie, frantic, or bone-chilling WADs you've played?

>> No.1176616

So uh, why is Mark banned, exactly?

>> No.1176618

>>1176616

For acting like a dick when he shouldn't had to

>> No.1176619

>>1176618
I said exactly.

>> No.1176625

>>1176616
Holocaust jokes and harassing people in PM.

>> No.1176630

>>1176619
Acting like a dick when he shouldn't have had to.

>> No.1176635

>>1176616
Repeatedly causing shitstorms, being a supreme asshole, can't take criticism to save his life, etc.

Unless you want the exact post that got him banned, in which case it'd be this one: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37728&start=15#p718236
That's just the straw that broke the camel's back though, there's a lot more shit that led up to this.

>> No.1176636

>>1176625
>harassing people in PM
Uh, what exactly is the problem with that?
I mean, isn't PM the place to go if you don't want other people to have to listen to you and some other dude arguing?

>> No.1176638

>>1176625
Incorrect, his PM to Eric wasn't what got him banned, someone brought another moderator's attention to the post linked in >>1176635 and that moderator wasn't feeling as tolerant as wildweasel.

>> No.1176648

>>1176636
Harrassing people isn't really allowed on forums, regardless of how it's done.
Even if it was, it spilled over into public view.

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>>1176563
That was definitely a bug. It's now fixed. There's a side effect, however. You can't walk through dying imps anymore since they seem to require a collision box in order for grabs to work. To grab a dying guy, use fatality mode. To smash heads with fists, use smash mode. Fatality mode no longer hits heads, since I've yet to get my wizard license.

>> No.1176667 [DELETED] 

>>1176635
>I am yet to see a list that points out all these "bad design decisions" that everyone loves to talk about, and also suggest ways how to solve them.

Well, here's one Mark, you know the sound of blood splattering against the floor and walls? Yeah, that sound is really fucking annoying and exaggerated, and not in a fun way, in an annoying way, it's so goddamn loud that you can't hear the rest of the game (it's somehow louder than gunshots, INDOOR gunshots), and it's made worse by enemies gibbing sounding like someone is launching strawberry jam through a firehose.

Where's the sound of bodyparts bouncing and impacting with dull thuds and rolling/sliding along the floor? Where's the sound of bone fragmenting, snapping, and hitting the floor? Where's the sound of lungs ripping and tendons snapping?

That said, I always loved the plasma deaths, those were always cool.

>> No.1176673

>>1176635
>I am yet to see a list that points out all these "bad design decisions" that everyone loves to talk about, and also suggest ways how to solve them.

Well, here's one Mark, you know the sound of blood splattering against the floor and walls? Yeah, that sound is really fucking annoying and exaggerated, and not in a fun way, in an annoying way, it's so goddamn loud that you can't hear the rest of the game (it's somehow louder than gunshots, INDOOR gunshots), and it's made worse by enemies gibbing sounding like someone is launching strawberry jam through a firehose.

Where's the sound of bodyparts bouncing and impacting with dull thuds and rolling/sliding along the floor? Where's the sound of bone fragmenting, snapping, and hitting the floor? Where's the sound of lungs ripping and tendons snapping?

That said, I always loved the plasma deaths, those were always cool.

>> No.1176675

>>1176514
Can you please tell me what is causing this? I double-checked all gore actors and I couldn't find anything.

>> No.1176678

>>1176614
RTC-3057

>> No.1176681

>>1176678
Oh shit yeah! I remember that one! It was kickass!
Did they ever make more of that?

>> No.1176686

>>1176675
It's actually pretty simple. Under MELEE, the projectiles governing berserk kicks have -NOEXTREMEDEATH

That's somehow tied to the self damage. But I've also set the super kicks to the SuperKick damage type and defined the proper states for that type across all relevant enemies so it still does the ExtremePunches effect when hitting a guy. You just don't completely gib them outright.

I could be wrong on all of this though, but that's what I've found through trial and error.

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>>1176681
>Did they ever make more of that?
Not really.

http://www.nautrup.com/3057/news.html

The wad ended on a cliffhanger...

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>>1176691
I hate when this shit happen.

>> No.1176702

Guys, please dont hate me for asking but I can't find any proper answer.
I loaded the wrath of Cronos mod mentioned on the F.A.Q and everything is fine except that when I select new game, no matter what the difficulty I pick, the game starts with the doom 2 campaign levels instead of whatever levels it should have.

What can I do about it?

>> No.1176705

http://www.sendspace.com/file/z8ec6c

I made a mutator for Brutal Doom. It makes Nazis drop MP40's, and it also makes rocket launchers have a 50% chance of being grenade launchers, and plasma guns a 50% chance of being railguns.

>> No.1176720

>>1176702
Wrath of Cronos doesn't come with new maps.

>> No.1176760
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1176760

Doomguy is dead but he's still talking, this man is unstoppable.

>> No.1176780

>>1176760

This makes me laugh more than I expected

>> No.1176785

Anyone else find themselves enjoying the first Doom more than Doom 2?

>> No.1176786

>>1176760
Reminds me of that dying one-liner from Redneck Rampage.
>I farted, it's wet, and I don't want to move.

>> No.1176787

>>1176785
Pertinear everyone actually. Doom 1's level design is legend, Doom 2 is stuffed with filler.

>> No.1176793

>>1176787
Cool, just coming back to it after playing it as a kid. Wondering if it was just me.

>> No.1176796

>>1176003
nukage onsen. yep she's japanese all right

>>1176037
i wish this actually worked not instantly redirected to a "prease legister" nag page

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>>1174257
>MFW hunting down Cacos and Lost Souls with homing missiles

>> No.1176807

>>1176207
>There's one map in Deus Vult II.
and a remake in grid32.wad http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=1021
it's not very good, iirc it was pretty annoying, but mentioning for the sake of completeness

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>>1176003

>> No.1176813

>>1176295
rinking to wikia... shamefur dispray

>> No.1176816

>>1176810
The level: Unholy Realms map 03

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>>1176003
HISSSSS

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>go to download brutal doom in the hopes that mark has updated his credits and I can find out where he got his punch sound from

>find this

>> No.1176846

>>1176837
Not bald, horned, and naked equals no boner.

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>>1176837

>> No.1176861

What are the mods called that change the color and tone of the game? I saw a few posted here before

>> No.1176863

>>1176861
palette swaps?

>> No.1176902

>>1176368
eh, it's been done...

>>1176374
or you could just post your username on one line and a subtlely disguised name of the streaming website on the next, pastebin seems like overkill to me

>> No.1176909

>>1176450
well that looks... well, fairly radioactive to be honest, but neat nonetheless, can you post it as an animation?

>> No.1176913

>>1176450
Phazon!

>> No.1176918

>>1176913
>Metroid Prime reference
muh nigga

>> No.1176925

>>1176015
>>1176425
>>1176837
>>1176849

Who the fuck keeps making these? They're so great

>> No.1176934

>>1176925
Tormentor667

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>>1176841

>> No.1176962

GUYS
QUICK
HOW DO I FIND THE BLUE KEY IN EPIC 2 MAP 21

I HAVE THE TARDS.

>> No.1176972

>>1176962
ALSO THESE SKYBOXES ARE REALLY PRETTY.

>> No.1176978

>>1176962
>>1176972
Try to find a vid on youtube maybe? I don't think I've ever played "Epic".

>> No.1176985

>>1176978
CAN'T DO IT, DOWNLOADING A BUNCH OF GAMES N' SHIT.

>> No.1176986

>>1176962
Use the bookshelf on the second floor of the cabin, then shoot the switch above the one at the bottom of the stairs.

>> No.1177093

>>1176613
>ace of spades in doom
brb making a shitty mod

>> No.1177137

>>1176616
>So uh, why is Mark banned, exactly?
hey Marrub can you put the answer to this in the FAQ or something...

>> No.1177169

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trgQYIJVHNI#t=101
who that bitch at the end

>> No.1177190

>>1177169
Gina, the protag of Unreal

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>Playing Mayhem Mansion wad
>Shit is getting 2spooki
>Get weird boner from the lip enemies

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>>1177169
>That Duke Nukem voice

>> No.1177232

>>1176691
>>1176681
the team moved on to doom3 modding iirc.
doing this: http://tfuture.org/phobos/

>> No.1177236

>>1176787
>>1176785
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/66040-why-i-prefer-ultimate-doom-wads/
is one of you this guy? (not really...)

>> No.1177237

>>1176816
>>1176810
holy shit

>> No.1177241

What if the Imps are heavily infected hoomans (just like in the Doom movie) that got in contact with heavy diabolical entities beyond their control? What if the -so infamous R667 monster- Shadow is actually an imp's demonical soul?

>> No.1177243

I've been having trouble writing batch files for my doom mods recently, in this case Winter's Fury and Brutal Doom sperglord edition. I have them set up in the exact same way as the doom megapack from way back that we used to pimp out in the threads. My old files are fine, but any new ones I've been writing just boot up doom normally. I'm an ocd person about organization, can any anon help?

>> No.1177247

>>1177241
What if the Imps are just lesser demons from Hell?

>> No.1177251 [SPOILER] 
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>>1177247
>>1177241

What if the imps are magnificent beef, bacon, and cheese burgers with a nice layer of tomato and lettuce sprinkled with a tangy and creamy sauce?

>> No.1177254

>>1177241
In Doom 3, the part where you see an xray of an imp's head on a monitor, I was hoping there'd be some tweeest about the skull being identical to that of a regular human, and the DNA to also be that of a regular human. It would have implied some hellish force making the Imps what they are through some purely mechanical means. Mechanical in the sense that something physically made them into that would chemicals or mutagens and shit.

>> No.1177256

>>1177254
*without chemicals or mutagens

>> No.1177269

>>1177254

if you haven't already seen the Doom movie, i think you will like it

>> No.1177270

>>1177217
how did he get Jon to help him out?

>> No.1177291 [DELETED] 

>>1177251
In which case I'd om nom nom[/url] them all immediately!

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>>1177251
In which case I would be forced to Om nom them all immediately.

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>>1176909
>>1176913

>> No.1177316

>>1177307
thanks, that's very good!

>> No.1177324

>>1177270
I don't think Jon's got anything better to do nowadays. Plus I'm fairly certain he has a YouTube channel called DukeLovesYou or the like. Either he's got nothing better to do, or it's someone who's a damn good Duke impersonator.

>> No.1177339

>>1177324
Someone posted a vocaroo of that a while back in the threads and then never said anything else about it.

>> No.1177345

>>1177324
>DukeLovesYou

Seems like something else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTU5tSufu0

>> No.1177486

what if doomguy's weapons could be improved by the tome of power?
chainsaw: attacks all enemies in front of you
fists: demon claws (HP drain, can send imp/noble projectiles with altfire)
gun: sharpshooter (bullet penetrates the enemy and jumps to the next one if it's close enough)
shotgun: faster reload
SSG: incendiary
minigun: shock (paralyzing)
rocket launcher: homing
plasma: freezing
BFG: dominator (hitscans deals a lot less damage, enemies hit fight on your side)

yay or nah?
(it's just ideas in the wind anyway, i couldn't code/sprite that for shit)

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>>1177486
what if doomguy's weapons could be improved by the tome of power?
>doomguy
>tome of power

>> No.1177515

>>1177206
At the late night...
double feature...

>> No.1177523

>>1177486
>plasma: freezing

>Superheated gas freezes things

>> No.1177529

>>1177523
>not cold fused plasma
Also, it's a game, we shouldn't limit ourselves with reality constraints.

>> No.1177532

>>1177523
>chainsaws
>on mars

>> No.1177542

>>1177532
They would need them eventually.

>> No.1177556

>>1177532
Well there are a couple of trees growing in outdoor areas.

Speaking of which, a biodome/hydroponics level would have rocked.

>> No.1177606

>>1176686
It was a problem with the head hitbox actor. It had no damage specified for a "Extremepunches" or a "Kick" death, and hitting it with a berserk punch or kick was automatically going for the Xdeath state, which causes an area damage type which the player is not immunized. To fix this, you just need to go to the HEAD_SYS lump and add this state for the HeadshotTargetBase actor:

Death.Extremepunches:
Death.Kick:
TNT1 A 1 A_SpawnItem ("HeadshotHit", 0, 0)
TNT1 A 1
Stop

Thanks for helping me to solve this.

>> No.1177608

I wanna make a monster that combines skullattack with vileattack. Flying uppercut!

>> No.1177624

>>1177542
by the time they would have mars terraformed they would probably need new chainsaws
>>1177556
in doom 2

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>>1177606
>Mark on /vr/
wat
Who invited this autist

>> No.1177635

i find it hard to believe that's him, but i'm willing to be proven wrong somehow

>> No.1177636 [DELETED] 

>>1177627
You mean sergeant mark IV cyber commando from blood dragon??

I think he's pretty cool!

>> No.1177638

>>1177606

[lels internally]

>> No.1177649 [DELETED] 

>>1177627
lol'd
Sagt. Mark IV is ok. But there are worse people. Like Hitler, Impse or Doomkartguy.

Sgt. Mark IV should be unbanned, he did nothin wrong

>> No.1177669

I have the day off today, can any of you guys recommend me a weird/abstract good WAD to play?

>> No.1177681

>>1177669
Mayhem Mansion
Lost Episode
Beyond Reality

>> No.1177690

>>1177635
https://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/tripcode/!!8yj52LboZir/
The archives don't lie, anon.

>> No.1177698 [DELETED] 

>>1177649
Yea. He was actually ok. But I like him though. Brutal Doom introduced me to Doom. Was wesome. Cant play any other mod without BD

>> No.1177726 [DELETED] 

>>1177698
>Cant play any other mod without BD
Why is this always the case with people whose first mod was Brutal Doom? You don't see this with any other mod, nor with people who played other mods prior to Brutal Doom. Is it really that good in your opinion that you think that no other mod could hope to compare (even though you've never tried anything else), or is it just ignorance? I'm seriously confused here.

>> No.1177730 [DELETED] 

>>1177726

I'm pretty sure it's just a few retards, or the same retard, trying to derail the thread, it's happened before mind you.

>> No.1177746 [DELETED] 

>>1177730
But it doesn't just happen here, you see it on Doom forums as well - there's a reason the BD fanbase has such a reputation for complaining about maps designed for vanilla Doom being impossible with Brutal Doom.

>> No.1177751 [DELETED] 

>>1177746

That's true, but based on what happens here every now and then, I'm sure a few people come here to intentionally cause ruckus, and are mostly successful in doing it because Burtl dum is such a touchy topic in the Doom community.

>> No.1177776 [DELETED] 

>>1177751
That sounds retarded

>> No.1177782

Soon I'll have some free time, then I need a very long WAD where to spend it. Can you help me?

>> No.1177787

>>1177782
Armadosia is a 32 level megawad and many of them take over an hour to finish

>> No.1177810 [DELETED] 

>>1177776
>DKG

You made me sad. Pls go.

>> No.1177842

http://kotaku.com/blasting-through-dooms-levels-as-duke-nukem-theres-a-1457972816

terminus is the next sgt mark iv

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Umm... g-guys

we rbutl dum nao

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1177857

guys, its over. brace for the oncoming scrub flood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4kLpBUHf9E

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>>1177532

>> No.1177869

>>1177857
It's
fucking
OGRE

>> No.1177884

>>1177848
Thanks for nothing Slowtaku.

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1177889

Keep updating this shit kids.

>> No.1177891

>>1177857
>maxed out the filters and AA first thing
>jumps to skip obstacles
I love brutal doom but this is painful to see

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>>1177889
>jpg

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>>1173365
Master Chief, obviously. The numbers check out.

I'm kidding I'm kidding.

>> No.1177904

>>1177848
>>1177842
congratulations on your great success

>> No.1177906

>>1177857
>not running
>using texture filters
>doesn't know about fullscreen hud
>crediting brutal doom for GZDoom features
>jumping to skip half of map03
>"this is the work of one guy"
>"[the original doom music] does not sound good right now"
somebody kill me so i don't have to

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>>1177894
>>1177889

>Implying the original image wasn't a jpg

Capcha: organdy tryhard

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>>1177906
>>1177891
>>1177857

>> No.1177912

>>1177906
at least he didn't pronounce sega "sagger"

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>>1177902

I know you're joking but I hate that fucking video anyway.

>> No.1177916

>>1177910

man why is he such a smug cunt

fame really goes to some people's heads, even shitty e-fame

>> No.1177918
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>>1177916
What are you? Jelly?

>> No.1177919

>>1177916
he's also british and fat. pretty much a given if you're a fat brit you're gonna be a smug turd to everyone.

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>>1177919

Don't even need to be fat.

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>>1177916
it's tough living your whole life with a disgusting mole on your face, it's probably shaped his entire personality and lifestyle.

>why do you think he rarely shows his face in videos

pro tip: cause he's ugly

>> No.1177960

>>1177889

fuck off SArais

>> No.1177972

>>1177916
>>1177910

good god #zdoom is exploding in trying to defend him
why would you defend this shitcunter

>> No.1177979

>>1177972
>trying to defend him


You better be rusing. Defending TotalBiscuit?

Give names, NOW

>> No.1177980

>>1177979

Impse, Mark, wildweasel, Terminus, Doomkartguy, Eric and so on

>> No.1177986 [DELETED] 

remember mods/jans, he is a well-known ban evader

>> No.1177987

>>1177910
"you should be thanking me"

no i'd rather the community stay small and knowledgable. it may sound elitist but it gives a vastly improved signal to noise ratio.

>> No.1177992 [DELETED] 

>>1177986
who?

>> No.1177997

>>1177980
I'm in there, and I can vouch that Eric and Impse AREN'T vouching for TB or Mark

>> No.1178001

>>1177997

Impse (imx) isn't even in #zdoom, hell, I've actually never seen him logged in on that channel

>> No.1178005
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>Today's thread
Good god guys, if he wants to recommend brutal doom, it's his fucking opinion. Are you guys really this bum-sore about something so trivial? All you guys talk about anymore is community drama.

>> No.1178006 [DELETED] 

>>1177997

>#zdoom
>scroton is a fucking nutter

>> No.1178015
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1178015

>>1177980
>>1177997

>terminus
>eric
>defending TB

hahahahahaha sure

>> No.1178016

>>1178005

I've been lurking the threads for the past week, and it's been a fucking hurricane of butthurt, anger, and bitching like children in middle school.

Do you guys even play DOOM anymore

>> No.1178020

>>1177987
There's this idea that the community should get used to YOU rather than you getting used to the community

Which is reflected in /a/'s eternal struggle in one-page threads.

>> No.1178021

>>1178016
Yeah, most of the actual shit that happens is on the IRC channel. The threads are pretty much just the excrement of forum drama and the likes.

>> No.1178023

>>1178016

>for the past week

That's bad, because you choosed a bad time to join. For starters, we all knew deep inside us that this was going to happen sooner or later, there was so many signs around the community warning us about it but we weren't sure WHEN it would happen

Two months back you wouldn't see this kind of stuff in our threads, like, at all.

Just a matter of time for everything to be gone with the wind, there's no need to alarm.

It's KDiZD all over again

>> No.1178028 [DELETED] 

>>1178005
DOOM community is full of insecure furry manchildren, old news

>> No.1178046
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1178046

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss sgt Mark.

>> No.1178050

>>1178046
>Great minds discuss ideas

Great minds EXECUTE ideas.
Ideas are ten a penny, anyone can talk about them.

>> No.1178090 [DELETED] 
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Brutal Doom is awesome! How do I teabag enemies?

>> No.1178101

The funniest thing is, TB is just catching up with something that has been going on for more than 2 years.

He might bring more people because of it, yes, but not in the levels of what PDP did with the Ghouls' series. Even it makes me wonder if TB did that move hoping to get a similar effect.

Is it usual for him to catch about things the way Slowtaku does too?

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>>1177857
>This is the work of one guy
SERIOUSLY?!

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>>1178090
How can u play games with shit graphics like dat?

>> No.1178118

Reminder that you are giving such people attention by clicking on their videos and articles.

>> No.1178120
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1178120

I know you're lurking the fuck out of our threads.

What a fucking pussy you are

>> No.1178123

>>1178120
who are you speakin to

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1178135

>>1178120
>>1178123

>> No.1178150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBV_GELP-WI

All skill :)

>> No.1178152 [DELETED] 

>>1178150
nobody cares nerd

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>>1178150

You call that skill?

No, this is skill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDnnvz9Koz0

>> No.1178164

>>1178135
heheheheh

>> No.1178171

>>1178150
>5:22
>picked up yellow keycard

Well, alright.

>> No.1178173

>>1178159
>TAS
W-well, it still took a lot of planning.

>> No.1178192 [DELETED] 

How do I turn on crosshair in brutal doom?

>> No.1178195 [DELETED] 

>>1178192
And so it begins

>> No.1178198 [DELETED] 

>>1178195
>taking it seriously
>giving it attention

>> No.1178209

>>1178173
TAS is built on almost pure knowledge on a level that far exceeds even the most ridiculously-skilled players. If you're such a naysayer, go beat a TAS record.

>> No.1178213

So what's some wads that work with zandronum that do the same job as beautiful doom?

>> No.1178250

>>1177910
The doom community is actually very big.

>> No.1178260 [DELETED] 

>>1178050
Confirmed to be pop-reading business retard who majored in something retarded.

nice low iq you got there, you'll never be rich faggot

>> No.1178263 [DELETED] 

>>1178260
or pop-business books i should say

>> No.1178265

>>1177987
Too late for that, anyway.

Brutal Doom brought a shitload of fucking mongoloids who don't know how to to mod for shit asking "duur how do i ad wepuns?!?!?!"?"

>> No.1178267 [DELETED] 

>>1177987
>>>/a/

>> No.1178284
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1178284

>playing Doom co-op

>that one guy who tries to speedrun every level, using techniques that wouldn't even be possible in the vanilla game

>> No.1178289 [DELETED] 

>>1178260
No, that's true. Even Thomas Edison said genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

>> No.1178293

>>1178284
S-sorry.

>> No.1178296

>>1178284

>Not reinforcing vanilla settings (no jump, no crouching)

MAP07 becomes a joke without 'em

>> No.1178294
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1178294

TSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
FWOOSH
BLAM chuk-chik
HAUN!
BLAM chuk-chik
HAUN!
BLAM chuk-chik
HAUN!
BLAM chuk-chik
HAUN!
BLAM chuk-chik
HAUN!
BLAM chuk-chik
HBLRLBRLBLBRBLBLBL!

>> No.1178305

>>1177905

Can someone add Hell Ground? It's by the same guy who made Epic and Epic 2, but I think it's superior to both. Fun levels, decent challenge, AMAZING atmosphere. It's my favorite WAD.
>>1177889

>> No.1178307

>>1178265
>>1178265
Yes. Brutal Doom is the "y kant metroid crawl" of wads.

>> No.1178313 [DELETED] 

>>1178289
>some guy said this
>therefore true

stupid tranny

>> No.1178317 [DELETED] 

Thank god for the report button.

>> No.1178321 [DELETED] 

>>1178317
No evidence found AHAHAHA FUCKER

>> No.1178324 [DELETED] 

>>1178317
Announcing report.

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>>1178294

>> No.1178341

>>1178294
But anon, it only takes 3 BLAM click-cluck-clacks before HBRBLRBLRBLRB

>> No.1178349

>>1178341

Sometimes it takes only two.

>> No.1178354

>>1177987
>i'd rather the community stay small and knowledgable.

You want a community like this? Go join the Marathon community. Seriously, after the Halo fans moved on to other games, Marathon's community literally is nothing but a handful of Devs for their one sourceport, and trekkie-tier nerds who discuss extremely pedantic aspects of the game's lore to the point that obvious typos are cause for debate.

That community is small and knowledgable -- it's also dull and incapable of getting anything done because of exactly how small it is.

>> No.1178357

>>1178354
Yeah but the difference is, Doom is actually a good game. Marathon isn't.

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>>1178357

You fucking take that back right now.

>> No.1178368

>>1178364
It's okay, he's just an insipid attention whore.

>> No.1178374

>>1178341
With the regular shotgun it takes about six hits.

>> No.1178372

>>1178357
Marathon's problems are almost soley derived from its tiny community.

>not enough people care to fork or improve their sourceports
>not enough people care to play online, thus leading to boring online play
>not enough people care to develop sites for the community to use, leading to unreadable 90's era shit like forums.bungie.org

Whether marathon is "good" or not is debatable; that it's tiny community is a deteriment to it's development is, however, obvious.

>> No.1178376
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BLAM click-cluck-clack

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>>1178341
Meh, I just go WHIRRRRRRR BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW. Only takes one to HBRBLRBLRBLRB.

>> No.1178389

>>1178357
What exactly is bad about it?
>inb4 its bad because it isn't doom

>> No.1178392 [DELETED] 

>>1178357
suck a dick sevenleaf

>> No.1178393
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>>1178389

Maze-y level design in 1, no music in 2/infinity, shitty devs for a subpar source port, but that's it.

>> No.1178395

http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/yadex/historic.html

>> No.1178396

>>1178364
Sorry. I thought we didn't like Marathon!

>> No.1178401

>>1178393
>shitty devs for a subpar source port

Like >>1178372 said, Marathon's "problems" can pretty much all be traced back to its community lead by elitist cunts.
Aleph One is great for vanilla but does an unbelievably terrible job at enabling modern audiences to enjoy it like Zandronum/ZDoom do.

It's like if the only way you could play Doom was with Chocolate Doom--and nothing else, ever.
You might say "well it's still doom so i'm fine with that", but how many times have you even done something as simple as opened up the console?

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>>1178396
we don't like aleph one.
we LOVE marathon.

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>>1178396
God, just fuck off already.

>> No.1178416 [DELETED] 

>>1178354
>oh wow doom guy so kool nd badass wow hey guys why cant i look up or down omg so retro what a nerd XD

>> No.1178419 [DELETED] 

>>1178401
>zandronum
>modern audience
Sorry I don't want to play with stupid immature manchildren and kids, socialist.

>> No.1178423 [DELETED] 

>>1178419
>Manchildren

There's that word again!

>> No.1178424 [DELETED] 

>>1178401
>but how many times have you even done something as simple as opened up the console?
what the fuck are you going on about? are you saying we should support computer illiterate retards

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>>1178423
Here's one.

>> No.1178426

>>1178389
obviously not the same guy, but my issues with marathon are as follows:

>debatable map design in vanilla game
I have to be honest. Bungie's level design is pretty poor IMO. Between wandering around in circles for hours looking for "that one switch", to the complex platform movement puzzles in some levels (mainly looking at M1 here), the maps wear one thin and kinda get annoying.

>not enough mod community content
In doom, if I get bored playing vanilla, I have a million billion wads and megawads I can DL, fire up and play. Marathon has less than 10...

>Ease of modding
I like modding, mapping etc. With doom, I have an extensive arsenal of map editors, WAD editors, and resource editors that I can use on the multiple modern OS platforms I use throughout my household.

Marathon literally has it's dev tools published...however, they're also for ancient version of Classic Mac OS, and thus need complex emulation in order to run.

Outside of that, all marathon has in terms of mod tools is a suite of buggy, poorly written tools by hoge piyo, which aren't even 100% documented in english -- not his fault being a japanese, but it's still a detriment given that most mthon modders are westerners.

>horribly bad network design.

Basically, marathon/aleph one doesn't have the ability to run dedicated servers and games cannot be joined once launched.
this shitty network infrastructure means you can almost never find a game....

>community site's are often dead or unusable
This isn't a problem with the game per se, but many of the forums that cater to mthon are either dead, have uptime issues, or are simply awkward to use.

Don't get me wrong, I love marathon, but to say it doesn't have issues is a poor assertion. Doom is objectively better IMO, however, I believe marathon is disadvantaged by two things:
>its sourcecode was released far later than doom's
>small community

>> No.1178427 [DELETED] 

>>1178414
>angrily cursing even after the other party has apologized and attempted to diffuse the situation

I bet you're a real hit at parties.

>> No.1178431 [DELETED] 

>>1178424
>computer illiterate retards are the ones using svars and cvars, and debugging their mods with simple console commands

Are you this big of a stupid fuck?

>> No.1178436 [DELETED] 

>>1178426
See also:
>>1178401
>>1178372

>> No.1178437 [DELETED] 

>>1178431
Wow that takes a lot of intelligence WOW

>> No.1178438 [DELETED] 

>>1178436
Yes, we see you are quite the samefag.

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>>1178436
lel.

>> No.1178439 [DELETED] 

>>1178437
What are you even arguing? I don't understand how you can possibly equate "using the console" to "computer illiteracy" - they don't logically connect in any possible way.

>> No.1178447

>>1178439
don't you get it? you're computer illiterate because using CVARS and SVARS is inanely simple and comprable to using trainingwheels when seen next to getting the same results in DEHACKED.
/sarcasm

>> No.1178451

>>1178439
>>1178431
>>1178447

Pretty sure he thinks the console was in vanilla Doom.

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1178454

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWH_d7oMs-s

The true Icon of Sin in Brutal Doom is the most metal thing I've ever seen and ever will see. I had a nightmare about it towering over my home city.

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>>1177848
>>1177884
>>1177842
>terminus is the next sgt mark iv

Holy fuck

>Brutal Doom has released its (supposedly) final update
>Shitaku shares Samsara with the audience we don't want
>Samsara becomes the next Brutal Doom as the latter's audience looks for something new to play

At least Terminus is nothing like Mark

>> No.1178463

>>1177861
>see that message
>OH SHIT THERES GONNA BE A CHAINSAW SOMEWHERE

though for some reason, it didnt work as well as the doom one, maybe it was the way the models worked or something

>> No.1178470

>>1178454
>I had a nightmare about it towering over my home city from a mile away

>> No.1178471

>>1178463
Maybe I'm misremembering things, but most of the enemies in Doom 3 didn't seem to have any kind of noticeable pain state. They just go right on attacking until they die.

>> No.1178473

>>1178454
If you could have nightmares about something in BD, try playing Unloved all the way through with the correct brightness settings...

you'll be dreaming about shadows waiting for you in the dark corners of your bedroom...staring with their dull red eyes and quietly chittering away like the unworldly things that they are...

>> No.1178475

>>1178471
IIRC, you could knock imps down if you shot them close enough with the shotgun.

I didn't much like doom 3, so I didn't play enough of it to be able to tell more.

>> No.1178476

>>1178473

It was more the spectacle of the flames in the sky as the backdrop and that huge thing appearing out of nowhere and roaring, holy shit.

After the disappointment of the original icon of sin basically just being a wall texture the fact that they put real effort into animating it and giving it lots of different attacks is deeply appreciated.

>> No.1178480

>>1178454
Shalom! Newfriend!

>> No.1178483

>>1178476
ah, I get you. It was a cool bit of animation...

BD for me isn't scary or horror-ish enough for me to nightmare about it, though. When I play BD, or anything by mark really, my thoughts are more tenacious D or Dethclock -- rediculously metal for the sake of being rediculous -- moreso than "oh shit, did he died? I better be scared".

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>>1178459
>>1177848
>>1177884
>>1177842
>looks at comments
>I WANT CALEB
>OR RISE OF THE TRIAD GUY
>OR LO WANG
>OR KYLE KATARN

>> No.1178504

Just beat Primary Gold. It was pretty fantastic.

>> No.1178505

>>1178503
>lo wang
>kyle katarn
Yes do these. caleb is overrated

>> No.1178510

>>1178503
oy veh. if all of these wishes were granted, samsara would be gigabytes.

>> No.1178512

>>1178454
>dies
>give all, give health 1000
>dies again

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1178516

Oh fuck, I forgot I had this rollchart around. Any way I can improve it?

>>1178503
To be fair, these kinds of faggots are at least better than those who play Brutal Doom exclusively, expecting every wad to be compatible and played with it.

>> No.1178526

>>1178505
I like Caleb enough, I just wish that the shitty addon that almost every fucking server uses was just...less shitty and broken.

>> No.1178528

>>1178526

Everyone wants that.

>> No.1178534

>>1178454

>get all 200 and 200 on health and armor
>IoS screams
>Minus 68 of health

Such is life in the Jelly mapping zone

>> No.1178532

>>1178528
What happened to that D64Guy template thingy that got posted a few threads ago?

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>>1178516
So what is the progress on Gina anyway?

>> No.1178542

>>1178512
At the point that you're failing this bad, you know it's simply time to IDDQD and forget about it.

>> No.1178545

>>1178534

Ah, and guess what, no matter where you hide, if the motherfucker screams, you're fucked, your health will go down because OMG SO COOL REVAMPED IoS

>> No.1178551

>>1178534

theres a megasphere hidden in the upper right corner of the map, to reach it you must jump the fuck out of some ledges and shit

That IoS fight is so no-vanilla compatible

>> No.1178550

>>1178539
I don't know, I'm not the dev of Samsara

Last footage I saw was on the trailer

>> No.1178554

>>1178532

It's still there.

>> No.1178557

>>1178545
I almost fucking lost my shit laughing when that thing popped out of the ground like that.

LOL SO IMPROOFED

>> No.1178561

>>1178554
Mind linking it?

>> No.1178563
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1178563

Ahhhh, bump limit, at last

Let's all enjoy the fuck out of it

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>>1178563

>> No.1178575

>>1178561

https://copy.com/ysE9DmdpLc3C for zandro

>> No.1178579

>>1178545
Its scream only hurts you if it has a line of sight to you.

>>1178557
You guys are always complaining about how anticlimactic the Doom 2 final boss is. Now you're complaining because someone tried to improve it? The fuck is wrong with you? Stuff like this is literally the reason Decorate exists.

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>>1178120
>>1178135

welp

there goes the last amount of respect i had for mark

motherfucker cant stand someone getting a little attention

>> No.1178582

>>1178579
>if it has a line of sight to you.

read >>1178545, aahhh I tried to hide everyfuckingwhere and nothing worked

the first scream ALWAYS hits you no matter what

>> No.1178591

>>1178582
>I tried to hide everyfuckingwhere and nothing worked
The problem is somewhere between your chair and your keyboard.

>> No.1178594

>>1178579
Alright alright, I'll lay off. This IS the first time I've seen someone try to improve the IoS without just changing the map. It's a shit sandwich but it's better than every other IoS replacement.

What it needs is rotations from a strong spriter. I don't see why it should turn billboard style like that, makes it feel very very crappy to look at.

>> No.1178596

>>1178591

nice counter-argument, pal

>>1178594

The problem is, not even the IoS itself blends with each part of his body. His chest if my memory serves me right comes from a redesign from the mobile Doom games, and the rest of it looks weird as shit

You will need a master spriter to get, at least, some decent angled sprites of it.

>> No.1178601

>>1178579
>You guys are always complaining about how anticlimactic the Doom 2 final boss is.

Not really

>> No.1178604

>>1178454
This music needs to play during the battle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Ose7A8P94

>> No.1178606

>>1178596
Yeah, did Mark work on that himself or something? He really should have sniffed around for a good spriter. But then, he probably alienated all his resource-makers by this point.

>> No.1178610

>>1178596
Why not replace the IoS entirely with something larger than a Cyberdemon and the ability to dodge?

A lot of bosses made for Doom and Doom engine stuff tend to not really be that interesting and are just stationary or somewhat slow but sturdy enemies.

Like Korax, D'Sparil, Cyberdemon, that R667 black Cyberdemon recolor, Mark's IoS, that thing at the end of UAC Ultra, that Cyberdemon recolor at the end of Threshold of Pain and whatnot.

I always found the three Hexen bosses before Korax to be more interesting.

And good boss fights can be done, just see Soulcrusher if you want to see good boss fights. Even if the final boss(When I played it) was just a recolor of that Hulking Alien from Redneck Rampage, it was a real solid boss fight and a good way to end the mod.

>> No.1178616

Boss fights should be nigh impossible and only possible to be defeated by the best of best players.

>> No.1178620

>>1178610
Also bringing up Soulcrusher again, there was quite a few bosses in there and each had different methods of attacking.

The level set could have been better, but the boss fights were the highlight.

>> No.1178625 [DELETED] 

AHAHAHA TERMINUS

AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

FUCK I SHOULD OF GOT A SCREENSHOT OF THAT

>> No.1178626 [DELETED] 

>>1178625
>SHOULD OF

>> No.1178634 [DELETED] 

>>1178625
Screenshot of what?

>> No.1178636 [DELETED] 

>>1178625

huh? what happened?

>> No.1178640 [DELETED] 
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>>1178634
AHAHA HERE WE GO, DID IT FOR A SECOND TIME AS WELL

TOO EASY

>> No.1178645 [DELETED] 

>>1178640

Was he actually in there? I mean, I could pretend to be John Romero in Zandro any time

>> No.1178657 [DELETED] 

>>1178645

Yeah, some nerd is votekicking me from a server and thinking it's an accomplishment.

>> No.1178658 [DELETED] 

>>1178657
trolled hard

>> No.1178676 [DELETED] 

>>1178670
>gets votekicked out, which lasts for only about five minutes on one single server
not even trolled

>> No.1178679

test, is cloudfare down or sumthin?

>> No.1178696
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SOMETHING IS AFOOT

>> No.1178702

>>1178696

what, testing a vanilla-focused project on a server from a zdoom-based port? Or the wad filename?

Also I'm fucking hoping they get to release it before december, has anyone played the beta yet?

>> No.1178703

>>1178701
Doom The Way ID Did.

It's a REALLY well done boom-compatible megawad.

>> No.1178746

>>1178696
>AFOOT

I think I know what it is

http://www.mediafire.com/?i1o78m5t43n4c7h

The previous link is the current beta, marked as e6, the server shows e9

Hmmm

>> No.1178856 [SPOILER] 
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1178856

Oh man, OH MAN. The secret maps in Doom 2 The Way id Did....

>Pic sort of related, possible spoiler

>> No.1178862

>>1178702
>what, testing a vanilla-focused project on a server from a zdoom-based port?
yeah they tested the first one in 2011 on odamex. it would be good if they could do that again.

>> No.1178956

I just beat CYRC01 in 2:55.4444 seconds. :0

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>>1178956

Get on my level, scrub.

>> No.1179002

>>1178985
Sugoi!

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>>1178985
how the fuck

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>>1178426
>all marathon has in terms of mod tools is a suite of buggy, poorly written tools by hoge piyo

That was true, like four years ago maybe, but stuff has come out since then. I miss Forge and Anvil too, but you can do almost anything you could back then with Weland (plus VML and Atque) and ShapeFusion. And maybe a little more.

There's a stickied topic in the Pfhorums' Editing subforum with all the editors in one place:

http://pfhorums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=5574

>> No.1179017

>>1179004
>>1179002
>>1178985
Pretty ez when you designed the thing.

Sup ijon.

>> No.1179048

>>1179017

Not ijon.
Close, though.

>> No.1179060

>>1179048
go to bed term.

>> No.1179076

>>1179060
>[04:23:11] * TerminusEst13 is now known as TerminusEst13|Zzzz
he did

>> No.1179082

>>1179076
its fun because he did it just 1 minute before i posted that.

>> No.1179109

>>1179060
>weyland

Weyland, although probably a good application is something I can't use.

Linuxfag...weyland is C#+.NET, and poorly written at that. It cannae run in WINE, and it cannae run on most of my native win32 systems either. Its shit.

Also, I only mentioned hoge piyo's stuff, because although it is sup par in many regards, its better than shit like
>obed
Which the maintainer doesn't even have a copy of anymore (dl link points to a corrupt zip)
>forge and anvil
Which were last seen running when jesus booted his apple II

About the only half decent tool for marathon is probably shape fusion...and piyo's physics editor one trumps it 10:1 imo.

>> No.1179143

New thread: >>1179142

>> No.1179360

>>1178596
There are a few master sprinters in this very thread.

>> No.1180313

>d2twid_e9.wad

oh shit nigger