/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1170849
Sega doesn't know how to do anything with its properties. They'd make a fortune by releasing all three SF3 episodes, rereleasing Shenmue 1 and 2, and maybe a few other gems but no, they're idiots.

>>1170858
this. they're sitting on a goldmine.

I would prefer Sega to make sequel instead of remakes. I want Jet Set Radio 3 and NiGHTS 3.

>>1170880
Would you choose to have a so-so JSR3 or no JSR3 at all?

Shenmue HD hell yeah would buy

>>1170882
But Sega can not.

>>1170882
Hard to tell, actually. So-so JSR3 won't stop me from enjoying JSR1, and there is always a chance that JSR3 will be good. I mean, Sega still makes good games sometimes.

>>1170889
>I mean, Sega still makes good games sometimes.
List them, please.

>>1170892

Yakuza series is good
Virtua Fighter is still good
Heard that new Sega kart racer is pretty damn good too

We usually sneak Shenmue under the loopholes because there was a Saturn version of it. It would be great to see it come back out but even if interest blew up for it the AM2 team is broken up so we'll never see it finished.

>>1170892
Binary Domain, Sonic Generations, Sonic Kart

>>1170903
From what I can gather, Shenmue still lives on somewhat in the Yakuza series. Shenmue's main fault was that it was perceived as too "high art" for gamers of that generation to comprehend. (this in no way means that I'm for artsy games, in fact, I detest them. But I do appreciate a good, moving story)

Then GTA came in, stole it's gimmick, and claimed all the glory.

>>1170914
The overall pacing problems didn't help it, too. It was too boring for many people.

>>1170916
Yeah and that's understandable. It was rushed out probably for the sake of saving the Dreamcast

>>1170903
Should I create another Shenmue thread?

>>1170903
There wasn't a Saturn version of it.

>>1170945
There was a prototype
Development then shifted to the Dreamcast

>>1170927
I feel like too many Sega games were rushed back then, like Sonic Adventure and Jet Set Radio.

>>1170950
At least JSR wasn't such a horrible mess. Sonic Adventure was seriously at the pre-beta level of completion.

>>1170947
So can we talk about Kirby's Air Ride and Luigi's Mansion here? They had prototypes on N64.

>>1170976
As long as you talk about those prototypes sure

>>1170947
A lot of games had all sorts of prototypes for all sorts of consoles. So what? Do we start saying that there's an N64 version of FFVII? That there's an N64 Mother 3? That there are five Resident Evil 4s? That there's a Shenmue 3?

Bottom line is, there was never a Saturn version of Shenmue, period, and the Dreamcast is /v/ material.

>>1171014
I'm not the first guy, I'm not saying there was a saturn game. I'm just saying there was a prototype and you are allowed to talk about said prototype.

you just wait for the day they return to make consoles again,if they learned their lession they can revive most of their IP's

>>1171065
HE is allowed to talk about the prototype. But the moment he makes a Dreamcast thread, we strike... brother.

>>1170892

Border Break (Japan and arcade only)

NiGHTS HD is the Japanese only PS2 version, and was only made because of how cheap and easy it is to make HD versions of them. It's the only one they'll ever do.

This game is fantastic and really needs a remake/modern sequel.

It's one of the finest looking 3D games on the Saturn.

>>1172946
I'm referring to the recent ports to Steam, PS3, and Xbox 360

>>1172983
It's PS2 port. Stop namefagging.

>>1170849
Saturn games are very hard to port, those that have been ported are either arcade or pc rereleases (nights was released on pc in japan)

burning rangers and saturn only games are pretty much a no no.

Panzer dragoon 2 and 3 are definatly a no no as both sourcecodes have been lost (1 was released on pc, this version is the one on ps2/xbox)

>>1172983
No shit genius, that's an HD upgrade to the PS2 version.

>>1170880
>>1170882
Didn't Smilebit get sold to something else, thus killing JSR forever more?

>Get Sanic Adventure re-release on PSN.
>Controls are horrible.
>DIsgusting border around the screen.
>Nothing new was added whatsoever.

I'm not sure I'd want them to re-release any more games.

>>1173502
Their Crazy Taxi re-release is quite horrible too (the Steam version at least), the steering was pretty much ruined.

>>1173510
I haven't played the Crazy Taxi and Sonic Adventure re-releases, but from what I can tell from the Jet Set Radio and NiGHTS ones, they are extremely unpolished re-releases. JSR already had iffy controls, but now it was only amplified, and there were sound issues, and the controls for NiGHTS was also quite off, though not nearly as bad as the rest of them.

>>1173502
NiGHTS on steam is also very bad if you play the HD version, they messed up the analog controls.

>tfw I want sega to re-release Jet Set Radio Future
>tfw I still know they'll somehow ruin it

Goddammit man.

>>1173545
>They take away half of the god-tier soundtrack
>Shitty controls
>They take away graffiti editor
>Audio issues

I can see it now.

>>1173514
>>1173564
What sound/audio issues are there in the Jet Set Radio re-release?

>>1173580
Certain sounds are MUCH louder than the rest, which is startling. That, and if I remember correctly, certain sounds are very low-quality and somewhat delayed.

why does Sonic Adventure get worse with each re-release exactly?

For the record I don't feel Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast has "aged poorly"

>>1174240

I feel like you and I are the only ones that still have love for the original Sonic Adventure. I remember when that game came out it just blew my mind and it's still a great game. Perhaps that's because I'm a gigantic Segafag.

>>1174261
>Perhaps that's because I'm a gigantic Segafag.

I'm one as well, though I find it strange that the Dreamcast is praised while the Genesis/Mega-Drive doesn't garner a similar level of respect, at least in the US

>>1174264
The Genesis had to fight directly against the SNES

The Dreamcast in its prime only had to go against the N64 and PS1, by the time the PS2 and Gamecube came out there was no need to pit them dirctly against it.

I still play the Dreamcast version of SA1 whenver I want to play it, only really got DX for Metal Sonic.

>>1174240
dx is just a bad port, and thats what we get every single time. its a shame because new players only get to see dx. sa2 battle on the other-hand is a straight improvement, although its lacking some extra outfits.

>>1174264
And why the Saturn, my favorite Sega system, never got any respect at all in the US. I love anything Sega and the Genesis was phenomenal and deserved all the credit it got...but damn it if the Saturn wasn't better. Perfect arcade ports, dynamite hardware, amazing exclusives...it was such a genius system.

>>1174307
what was wrong with DX?

>>1172948
Fuck this

>>1173545
I don't see how they ruined the recent re-release of the original JSR.

>>1173543
>messed up the analog controls.
They patched it.

Shenmue is /vr/, fuck what the mods say. It's older than Final Fantasy VIII and a fuckton of other games we see discussed here.

Anyway, I'm sure Sega will probably do this, if for no other reason than it's (seemingly) easy money.

I really feel that NiGHTS could've become the new flagship mascot for SEGA. An iconic character, great controls, imaginative setting and enticing story meant that it was perfectly placed to become the face of the Saturn. NiGHTS also "felt" more Saturn, if that makes sense. I would've loved NiGHTS to take the lead on the Dreamcast as well.

>>1174995
They only patched it on console versions as far as I know. Forgot about steam apparently. The Saturn version works fine but the HD version is a mess.

>>1175036
I wonder why did Sega abandon that Air NiGHTS project?

>>1174395
>that image
plsno

Anyways i'd love a Daytona USA 2 re-release, especially if it came out on PC too. A PC version of the 2011 re-release of the first game would be great as well.