/vr/ - Retro Games

Would any janitor care to explain why my thread just got deleted, when it's identical to this one and was posted first?

>>1160582
probably because you had your trip on

>>1160582
Probably the /v/tier image.

>>1160582

the merchant image is both crappy by itself and was also made by he who shall not be named

>>1160590
...?

>>1160590
In other words, favoritism toward established members of the community, and hostility to outsiders?

>>1160596

I dunno man

>>1160593
DKG

>>1160596
Princess Sevenleaf isn't exactly an outsider. It was just a bad image to use as OP.

>>1160596
>favoritism toward established members of the community

>Anonymous 10/27/13(Sun)13:24 UTC-5 No.1160576

Yes, anonymous is a longstanding, well-known, publicly visible member of the /vr/ doom community. He alone holds the privilege of making new doom threads.

>>1160596
>>1160601
>>1160613
Just drop it guys, this is a new thread and I don't want this to be people's impression of me.

So... Strife is welcome in these threads, right?

Strife is cool. I think if it had come out a year earlier, it would be one of the most well-recognized games of the 90's. Unfortunately, it had to share shelf space with Quake and Duke.

>>1160632

Yeah, it was pretty good as something on the doom engine, but had to compete with things out of its league.

The sci-fi and fantasy mashup setting was pretty cool, but inconsistent in quality throughout.

>>1160632
>new tripfag
DoomKartGuy pls go

>>1160643
>muh leejun

You guys, hiding your shit is becoming tiresome. For fuck's sake, go to /vg/.

>>1160652

Doom is Retro. Shut up.

>>1160652
>mfw this nerd

Am I the only one that is looking forward to that Exploding Lips-ish project?

Also, Oculus Rift for GZDoom is slowly becoming a thing

Boy do I have a treat. Just got done torturing myself with 3 horrible random wads.

Here is the gauntlet omnibus special:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GcBH4HI1wk

I'm also expecting to do spooky stuffs for Halloween.

>>1160662
>no voice commentary

What's the point, nerd?

Stop responding to bait please

>>1160663

>voice commentary

Idk about you, but I mostly just want to see gameplay without having to hear someone's monologue over it with small talk, but that's just me.

>>1160663

>Complaining about no voice-over

Huh, and here I thought the general opinion on the matter of wad showcasing was the total opposite

>>1160652
Doom is retro.
We will stay. Period.

>>1160652

>>1160662
>That first WAD.

>Those Fucking sound effects in the last WAD.

>>1160679
Hachitachi

>>1160681
What does that even fucking mean?

>>1160683

I don't even know man, but now when I hear those sound effects back, it makes me cringe.

I've asked a few times but got no replies.

Is there a kind of "Balanced Doom" or "slightly harder" version? Something that would balance out the first episode for instance. I love that one but it's too easy. The episodes and Doom itself need a bit of a rebalance.

Build engine shit is allowed here, right?

How the hell to you get those fucking choking hands off of you in Blood?

>>1160714
Burl Tumd!

>>1160715
Tape the use/open button repeatedly.
Really. It took me a while to figure out, too.

>>1160715
>>1140791

I've noticed it seems to get harder to pry them off the longer they choke you.

In later news, Mark gets banhammered finally thanks to BlazingPhoenix.

>>1160714
Seconding Burl Tumd. It enhances the gameplay while still maintaining the look and feel of vanilla.

>>1160715
>Build engine shit is allowed here, right?
I see no reason why not. The Build engine has a lot of technical differences, but the games are in the same "spirit" as Doom.

>>1160789
>I see no reason why not
You do not run these threads. Build Engine has its own thread. Stop acting like you have some kind of authority here.

>>1160785

And for the love of everything sacred, let's keep this subject on the IRC channel

irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr
Pass: vrtroopers

Everyone welcomed to join

>>1160792
I didn't say "yes" you angry little person, I just said that I (myself, me, the person writing this) don't have a problem with it. I was stating an opinion, not handing down a decree.

>>1160785
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0kFNUP4P4

>>1160785
What did he do this time?

>>1160810
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=718236#p718236

>>1160810
>>1160814
Read this

>>1160793

Brutal Doom has a dedicated "fuck you" button. I can't decide if that's lame or awesome.

on the subject of Burl tumd, I've actually found a pretty fun combo of wads.
I am using:
Burl Tumd (fucking Obviously)
Brutalized Doom (Because of the Massive amounts of Demons everywhere, please see picture of dead demons)
And the Simplistic Gore Mod as you are able to actually cut open the bodies of Pinkies and imps to get health, shot gunners and stuff for shells and clips, etc.

>>1160814
>http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=718236#p718236

Sounds like hit the nail on the head.

>>1160825
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H7cOWYal5c

>>1160825
You can use it to aggravate monsters, so far all I've seen is them to start shooting faster. While not exactly practical, I find the concept amusing.

>>1160814
>and Eric_ comes in with the wall post
The both of you are fucking children.

>>1160838
>and Eric_ comes in with the wall post
What? Mark asked for a list of everything wrong with Brutal Doom, and that's exactly what he got. Don't blame Eric_ for being the messenger of bad news, Mark asked for it.

test

>>1160838
>>1160839
OI
>>1160793

>>1160662
>vertical aim
>using noclip
>using cheats at all
Why didn't you at least try to complete level two? It looked like it could have been possible.

>>1160839
I always considered Burl Tumd a joke that never should've been made in the first place. Without it, Eric_ probably wouldn't have made a name for himself unless he's done popular things I don't know about. And way to go to make that wall post after he was banned.

>>1160847

Vertical aim because I always keep auto-aim disabled and have free look on.

Noclip because the lift platform takes very long to reach the top and doesn't return down, I missed the sequence and didn't want to stretch the video any longer.

Wad 2 really doesn't have any exits, I spent 5 minutes on a practice run for that one. See: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=2999

So, are there any good wads designed around the idea of freelook, crouching, and jumping?

>>1160861
Void.

KILL ALL SPICS

>>1160861
ZPortal or whatever it was called.

>>1160846
Burl Tumd is great you fucking idiot, have you even played it?

God, the BROODLEDOOM fanboyism in this thread... I'm out. I'll be back later when the kids are in bed.

>>1160846

well, he kinda developed for all out war 2

kinda the most popular zandronum mod online

kind of a big deal

>>1160861
Just about all ZDoom maps.

Demonfear is so shitty.

>>1160861
Knee-Deep in ZDoom
Massmouth 2

>>1160869
I haven't played it, I'll admit that, but only because it was meant to be a dramabomb in the first place. And that's why it shouldn't have happened.

>>1160873
>AOW2
No fucking wonder I don't like the guy.

>>1160879
http://aow2.drdteam.org/page.php?page=team

>Eric - Balance consult, weapon decorate
>AOW02 - The Barrens - Fletto

>Playing Brutal Doom for the first
>Those seizure-causing Cacodemon balls
>Super hyper fast Zombiemans and Cacodemons
>Archvile looks different
>Super Barons of Hell
>Stomping Cyberdemons
>Impossibru-to-hit Lost Souls
>All those extremely loud noises and sounds
>Dangerously cheesy quotes
>Extremely overpowered weapons
>Source code looks like shit, yet kinda works, but still not good enough to prevent crashes
>Zandronum crashes several times while playing Brutal Doom

I expected a simple mod that changes the look of Doom, not the gameplay itself. What the fuck? Absolutely disgusting.

>>1160882
He was still a part of that piece of crap. No excuses.

>>1160895
>Crashes
What? That's never happened on Zandronum for me.

>>1160895
Shut about you bigot.
Brutal Doom is awesome.
It made DOOM more popular than ever and is now a MUST have for every gamer. The new gameplay rocks, monsters can no longer be easily killed like in the old Doom, it sucked. Now they are smart. And the new weapons are awesome and have cool sounds and sprites, And all the gore...just look at it, its everywhere. Its freakin awesome dude. I wished Doom 4 was like Brutal Doom pal (._.)

>>1160895
Stop it.

woo...front end is coming along.
are you guys seriously arguing about brutal doom again?

>>1160923
Just report their posts.

>>1160913
Wow, you're so obviously trying to start shit.
No replies, guys.

I swear every time someone even thinks of saying brutal doom is bad everyone goes up in arms to defend it.

It's other people's opinions and you will never change that, you will never change them, and they will never change you. Simple as that. I swear that it's only brought up to spark rage from brutal doom fans more than anything... But it's hilarious to see what they say though.

>>1160930
What did you just fucking do then, aspie? In any case the post is gone anyway.

>>1160923
Looking good, spritenoob. Keep it up

>>1160913
hi mark

So you guys.

TNT: Evilution OR The Plutonia Experiment?

http://strawpoll.me/614238

>>1160923
Nice work, but is there any reason you're using an old version of blender?

>>1160958
Voted Plutonia
Have fun.

>>1160960
because I couldn't find a certain mirror modifier I needed, and the tutorial I'm following was using 2.49, so I just said fuckit. I'm more used to the old interface anyways back when I made crude junk in Blender.

>>1160958
Plutonia is way better than Evilution. I am not saying that Evilution is bad at all though, just that Plutonia is one of the best megawads ever.

>>1160994
I'm playing through it now, and it's not that good imo. It seems like they couldn't find a decent use for anything except chaingunners and revenents. And they always place the chaingunenrs too far for vertical aim to lock onto. It's cheap.

And there are too many switches to doors in other parts of the map, with no indication what they go too. But TNT does that shit too so.

When I play DoomRPG with Brutal Doom I only get XP for colored enemies. How do I fix that?

>>1161073
By not playing it with Brutal Doom, newfriend.

>>1161078
Thing is, if I load DoomRPG first I get xp for all mobs but I miss out on the over-the.top animations and gore.

>>1161082
If you want the Brutal-style gore in non-Brutal mods, get Ketchup

>>1161086
He'll still have the same problem because Ketchup still replaces the enemies.

>>1161082
You can't just mix and match gameplay mods. Things tend to break. As a general rule you can only load one at a time.

>>1161073
>>1161082
Brutal Doom and DoomRPG both replace enemies. You can't get the two to merge together.
Stop playing it with Brutal Doom.

Necrodoom + Ketchup + Realm of Demonology is badass.

>>1160846
>And way to go to make that wall post after he was banned.

At the time of his posting he wasn't banned yet.

>>1161092
Just strikes me as odd that it almost work. DoomRPG even has a "Brutal complatability" option. Meh.

Does anyone have Lamedoom.wad?

There was a Sendspace link but it no longer works.

>>1161092
ketchup replaces the blood, not the enemies

this isn't brutal doom lite we're talking about

Do any of you even actually know how to make a WAD?

>>1161168
No, the enemies get replaced too so they can have 2brutal4u XDeaths. Kind of defeats the point of it being a "universal" gore mod, but then again, it is made by Mark.

>>1161142

This what you looking for anon?

http://doom.dogsoft.net/download.php?h=ef629eae931228a25c784f61a388becc&f=Doom%202/Deathmatch/L/lamedoom.zip

I may have to showcase this shit, it's nuts.

>>1161172
It runs with any doom game, and that's enough. How do you expect a mod to work with any mod?

>>1161179
If it just replaced the blood, it would work with any mod.

>>1161170
mark pls go

>>1161170
>half the people in here mod and map and generally create content
>pastebin in the OP linking to all the things we have made
uh

>>1161184
Yeah 4 maps, so wow, so amaze

>>1161179
>>1161180
>>1161172

It replaces the enemies, but does not alter them in a huge way.

It works perfectly or mostly perfectly (lacking some blood and whatnot) if you load ketchup and then whatever else.

>>1161189

the pastebin is not a complete wad list

off the top of my head, there's two wads that mapbro made, the one the lydia guy is working on, gone homo, dewce's map, the two maps by that spacestation guy and 2 other unnamed first maps that have been posted here.

There's also terminus, mike12, eric, bloax and marrub that frequent here that have more widely known works that aren't listed in the pastebin.

>>1161189
>wads are ONLY maps
hue

>>1161194
>Terminus
the samsara guy?
he's a /vr/gin?

>>1161202
Samsara actually started on /v/, believe it or not.

>>1161185
>>1161189
>>1161195

I don't know why you faggots seem to think shitting up the thread along with the shitposter is a good idea when compared to reporting shitposts.

>>1161194
Don't forget scroton!

>>1161206
the second poster that you replied to is the shitposter
but yeah sorry ill stop
im addicted to the taste of b8 ;_;

>>1161209
he hasn't done anything of note since the pol map and he acts le intentionally retarded

>>1161205
Bullshit. Seriously?

>>1161218

Yup.
A little over a year and a half ago, a neckbeard got off a match of ZDoom Wars and made a thread about retro FPSes on /v/. Nothing special, just talking about how cool they were, how much fun it was to play them.

Then, across the world, another neckbeard had an idea. The ZDoom wiki holds information on Chex/Heretic/Doom code, right? You could take them and put them in a single mod!
The first neckbeard found this to be a wonderful idea, and so copy/pasted the code into SWAG DIS, Stop Whining About Goddamn Deathmatch In Skulltag. Eventually, though, it came to be known as Samsara.

Throughout all its infancy, though, SWAG DIS was guided on by /v/irgins. They decided on roles, they decided on coop/DM mode divide, they gave a lot of crucial criticism and feedback that helped shape it into the mod it is today.

All because of you anons. See that shining pillar of masculinity in the mirror? That's YOU, bros.

>>1161228
UNF

do any of you guys know if reelism will update anytime soon?

>>1161241
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31490&start=1065

>>1161194
And now, you also have me.

Sup guys, I need a place to stay for this night. *puts feet on the table*

>inb4 GTFO

>>1161260
oh god dammit, why'd you have to go and reply

>>1161253
Calling troll. Prove me wrong.

>burl tumd
>burrow-el tum-deh

>>1161261
Because, that's why.

>>1161260
This map is not released anywhere. You know that only the real Mark could take a screenshot from it.

>>1161268
Right then, give us a screenshot of you jumping down the waterfall with Brutal Doom.

>>1161268
You could have got that from anywhere.

>>1160871
Why? It's my favorite, since levels don't take an exorbitant amount of time to complete, traps aren't abundant like in Doom 2, and it isn't like a fucking slaughter map where enemies and ammunition are just flooding your screen.

>>1161274
>>1161268
>This map is not released anywhere.
>You could have got that from anywhere.
huhhhhhhh

>>1161276
There's been screenshots posted elsewhere.

>>1161190
Great, but the point is that it replaces the enemies so that DoomRPG, which has specific enemies to give out XP, no longer has those enemies...

That's why he was asking in the first place. It may be minimalistic for most gameplay wads, but not for DoomRPG

>>1161272
>>1161283
samefag

>>1161272

I don't know what's the point of this, but whatever.

Pretty sure many have seen this and beaten it to death before, but god damn does this look wrong.

>>1161283
go away you macaco

>>1161286
How the hell did I forget?

>>1161286
what does?

>>1161290
oh god what the fuck is that?

>>1161293
1998 meets hi-res textures.

We all die.

>>1161293
Jdoom
I used to fuck around a lot with it.

>>1161228
That made me smile.

So uh.
Doom right.

What's all y'alls favorite mod?

Mines FKER, mainly because it ported in the R667 monsters and weapons without them being complete ass, and is still balanced

>>1161253
a word of advice, newfriend:
you're not really well-liked around these parts
try >>>/v/ instead, they love your mod there

>>1161281
>It works perfectly or mostly perfectly (lacking some blood and whatnot) if you load ketchup and then whatever else.

>>1161317
Project MSX.
Space Pirate if Kirra ever gets around to releasing it.
Eriguns. I really want an updated version with the new Automatic Shotgun.

>>1161253

Wow! Is it really you?

I just wanted to say that I think your mod is great; it really feels like doom 2.0 and what doom 3 should have been. I played doom when I was younger with my dad but hadn't for years. When I heard about BD on kotaku I got back into doom and discovered zdoom and all the many many pwads, I even ended up trying my hand at making some of my own mods (though nothing that great, just decorate stuff), so hopefully I'll eventually make something worth sharing.

Welcome to the doom general :3

Just kidding, I think you're a terrible person and I hate your mod. I hope you kill yourself after suffering for months with an excruciatingly painful terminal illness. I hope that when you close your eyes for the last time with the bag over your head (because you're too chickenshit to go with something else) the last image in your mind is that of all the people that hate you. I hope after you die your mod gets picked up by someone more competent at coding and it's generally agreed upon by all (your fans and detractors alike) that it's much less buggy, more balanced, easier to mod for, and overall far superior. I hope your works all rot in a github somewhere with 3 views in the last 5 years as of 2018 because everyone has jumped ship for something that wasn't thrown together in 20 minutes in an internet cafe in a favela somewhere.

>>1161341
Your tears of rage are delicious, poor kid.

>>1161253
Why must all the faggiest tripfags begin with the letter m? Why?

>>1161346
>begin with the letter M

What?

Stop giving it attention. Use the report button.

>>1161345
So tell me, Mark, why have you come here? Honest answer, please, I'm genuinely interested.

>>1161345

I'm not even mad. In fact I don't even care that much, I just popped in to check the thread and saw that you posted.

Meanwhile, you responded less than 5 minutes after I posted, when your last post was almost an hour ago.

You're sitting here hitting refresh waiting for someone, anyone, to notice you. That's pathetic.

>>1161350
because he got b8 from both zdoom and zandronum

>>1161352
Or he has it autoupdating and tabbed back in when it said he had a reply.

>>1161346
Niiro-dorinku

>>1161268
>>1161283
>mfw Sergeant MarkIV uses blur filter

>>1161352
Stop lying to yourself. I can smell your sweat of anger from here. Also, I have a chrome plugin that tells me every time the thread is updated.

>>1161345
Share maps, make friends, hear stories, you know.

>>1161293
Risen 3D

>[Deleted]
>(Dead)

Thanks

>>1160958
>http://strawpoll.me/614238

Gots to be TNT.

Plutonia and its fanboys can go suck a barrel of dicks, the texturing gets old fast, there's never any atmospheric lighting, and thanks to them we have tons of shitty megawads that throw you against archies right from the word go... It had some cool ideas (maps like Hunted for example) but overall, TNT just felt more like how Doom should.

>>1161368

I don't agree with your post entirely, but I do think Hunted was a cool map.

I'm not as tickled by the Hunted tributes though.

>>1160958

I like both, but I prefer TNT

>>1161253

Stop using Knarrenheinz as your avatar if you're going to make such a disgrace of yourself. Use a more suitable mascot.

Why aren't people allowed to argue about Brutal Doom? On what grounds is the janitor constantly mutilating these threads?

If we could just really duke it out once or twice I'm sure people will get tired of the issue anyway, and if some fuckhead keeps spamming it nonetheless, then you can start cleaning that up.

Isn't it a bit ridiculous to not be allowed to talk about something on topic? I also have to read this thread on the archive before it's dead just so I now what's happened.

>>1161389
>If we could just really duke it out once or twice I'm sure people will get tired of the issue anyway

We did.
They didn't.

>>1161389
>If we could just really duke it out once or twice I'm sure people will get tired of the issue anyway

First time on 4chan, eh?

>>1161391
>>1161397
No reason for the janitor to take away the charm of 4chan.
>serious respectable discussion on the internet other than forums with small communities
>possible

>>1161389
>If we could just really duke it out once or twice I'm sure people will get tired of the issue anyway,

sure!

just like we did with

crt vs lcd
hardware vs emulation
sega vs nintendo
whether dc is retro

those are just from /vr/ off the top of my head, there are many other classics like

EU vs US
cut vs uncut

and so forth

>>1161403

>serious respectable discussion on the internet other than forums with small communities
>possible

that's what we've had in these threads since pretty much ever, with the exception of one or two troublemakers that generally make themselves known

>>1161389

If you want to read threads full of shitposting go to /b/.

Yeah I guess it's sad that a certain area of discussion has to be hushed once in a while but it's really the most pragmatic solution for a place like this. Be honest, you KNOW that we won't get anywhere productive. This is 4chan for fuck's sake.

>>1161403
>No reason for the janitor to take away the charm of 4chan.

>/v/ is 4chan
>/vr/ should be like /v/
>/v/ was always the charming shithole it currently is

>>1161389
>people will get tired of the issue

That rarely happens. As a /tg/ frequenter, I can tell you the days surrounding the release of 4th edition were just awful for this reason.

But at the same time, I think it speaks poorly of a community to not be allowed to discuss a contentious issue, to such a degree that it seems someone who didn't do anything (here) has been banned.

So... back to Doom;

Anyone knows any megawad that is good with Wrath of Cronos? I'm in dire need of one, since I'm going through all my conversions and using some nice maps. Just Finished Epic2 + Doom Expanded, and need more dooming.

How do I add custom wads i download to DOOM?

>>1161407
>sega vs nintendo

people are still arguing about this?

lets talk about console ports

>>1161426
They all sucked up to the Xbawks HUEG port.

>>1161407
>EU vs US
Which one is the one waging war for the freedom and liberty of all at the expense of it's own national security?

>>1161426
>Doomguy dressed liked Ernest P. Worrell without the hat. KnowhutImean, Vern?

>>1161428
Neither.

>>1161430

>>1161431
Terrorist!

>>1161426
SNES: good port, snes tier music, at least has most things
32x: absolute shit
Jaguar: it's okay
PSX: excellent, no music, terrific lighting, password only
Saturn: shitty version of the PSX version
N64: it's own (good) game entirely
GBA: decent for handhelds

what am I missing?

>>1161418

For a sizable subset of the population on /vr/ the sega/nintendo console wars never ended.

Insert Viet Nam reference here.

>>1161397
I mean the people who really want to make points instead of just insults. I know there's always some asshole who can't let it go AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE TIRED OF THE DISCUSSION and then go on a one sided spamming spree. Which is then, like I said a job for a janitor.

Been here a couple of years, mate. For the longest time I can remember, just being in a heated debate about something that's on topic, didn't get your posts deleted.

>>1161442
War.
War never changes.

>>1161446

IIRC the posts in the thread yesterday that were civil were left alone.

One of mine got deleted but I didn't get banned. Another one (the one pointing out the crediting issue with mark) stayed up, as did others.

>>1161439
The snes port was horrendous. Easily the worst port. The 32x version very playable, it just had shit music and missing levels.

>>1161407
>crt vs lcd
That's not really a debate.

>hardware vs emulation
That's just people being elitist.

>sega vs nintendo
We did get tired of that one. I at least don't see it happening anymore.

>whether dc is retro
That was just one guy spamming. Perfect example of a case for the janitor.

>EU vs US
>cut vs uncut

Those aren't on topic, except for on /b/ and in that case, who the fuck cares what happens there?

>>1161439
>32x: absolute shit

Whats the matter man? Dont you like the crackling sounds of ass of the 32x soundtrack?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oyweqZ7WM

>>1161408
But if you look at the last thread, it wasn't shitposting. It was a back and forth debate with long posts which contained points. It's fine if you don't like it but calling that shitposting is a bit weird.

>>1161117
I like to play Necrodoom with Heretic. Makes me feel like some badass dimension hopper who got lost or something.

>>1161439
>psx: no music
What? It definitely had a soundtrack, and a damn good one at that.

>>1161458
nah, there was a fair amount of ALL CAPS BITCHING AND SCREAMING

also it was a high possibility that mark was in there posting as anon at the time

NOW, if you wanna talk more about it, take it to the IRC fellas

>>1161481
I was there right up until posts go deleted and I don't recall a lot of all caps. Sure, there was a lot of bitching and idiocy, but not a lot of all caps screaming.

>>1161414
>Chillax

I just finished watching The Mist

And now I want to make a WAD based on the concept of the movie

Halp

>>1161439
I thought the SNES one wasn't a port, but was actually it's own engine.

>>1161498
Can you make one of the objectives of the WAD to kill that ranting fundie bitch? One of the most annoying characters I have ever seen in a film.

>>1161449
At first only select posts were deleted, then everything all together was deleted.

Are there any Doom WAD,s that take place under water? Like a submarine or underwater facility? Or perhaps the ocean floor itself?

I would like to play one.

>>1161481
>also it was a high possibility that mark was in there posting as anon at the time
So, what? What's your point? Is he banned here too?

There was also an even higher possibility that some of his obsessed stalkers were posting here as well. Even posting screenshots of their posts.

But again, what's the problem with that? The moment discussion is stifled where discussion is to be had, 4chan loses a lot of its value. I don't go to other forums usually, I'm from here. But this stuff came up here so I lurked around a bit to be able to form an informed opinion, which I wanted to share.

But now apparently I'm not allowed to talk about it because janitor-kun keeps baleeting everything.

>>1161516
Not the guy you were replying to, but it was far from a great discussion. It was really shitting up the thread. I reported some of the posts.


>>1161515
Object 34: Sonar

>>1161521
Well it was taking place instead of discussion about something else and it was exactly friendly but I don't see that as shitting up the thread.

at least I've made some progress today, but I really wanted to finish it sooner. Hopefully I'll be faster when I start doing other voxelized cars. I did learn a lot about blender doing this.

>>1161521
Looks interesting. One thing that really caught my attention looking up information on it was its size. Should be interesting to explore.

The choice between Evilution and Plutonia is a tough one, because they're both honestly kind of pants.

>>1161439
3DO

It had nice music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m35pIk5wfNk&list=PLB2880E9A7DFF6C25

I really wish the 3DS and/or Vita got Doom ports, hell even Douk is getting one for the latter apparently

>>1161498
A Silent Hill wad?

>>1161481
>>1161458
>>1161516

What WAD would you guys say has the best Music? Were talking custom music made for the WAD.

>>1161367
Is that a GZDoom mod?

>>1161617
It's a sourceport.

>>1161626
What IWADs can it run then?
I have the sneaking suspicion that it HeXen looking like that would be the most metal thing ever.

>>1161628
Risen3D is a fork of Doomsday from ages ago, so they've both followed completely different development patters.

That seemingly unrelated statement was to mention that it seems there's a Hexen pack for Doomsday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON7sVS19zoQ

>>1161414
Have you played through Strife with WoC yet?

You should go do that if you haven't

>>1161635
Hrm, does HeXen have a high-texture pack?
And would I be better off with a Doomsday model pack or Risen3D?

>>1161546
>Douk for Vita

When did this happen?

>>1161638
That video said "high res textures" so IDK??? Also I have little-to-no idea what the real difference is between Risen3D and Doomsday so uh, you're on your own. If it says it's for Doomsday then by all means, use Doomsday.

>>1161639
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/366944848948903937

I hope it actually comes out, as I haven't heard of any further news on it.

>>1161481
>NOW, if you wanna talk more about it, take it to the IRC fellas
Is IRC anonymous yet? Or are you essentially a tripfag with your IP address visible from the moment you join? Because, fuck that.

>>1161597
lol seriously

>>1161653
Registering gives you a hostmask.

>>1161653
>muh anonymity
>muh leegin

It's not like IRC is tied to this board. You can still post anonymously here and no one will know. Shit, it's just a place to chat.

>>1161521
>Object 34: Sonar

Damn, it's not actually underwater. I was kinda hoping to swim around and shit.

Are there wads that are mainly underwater, hopefully with infinite air supply?

>>1161660
it's a place where i have a name and therefore a reputation. when you have a name, people don't read what you say, they first read who is saying it and decide whether or not to pay attention based on that. it's got nothing to do with "muh leegin" or whatever you said.

>>1161664
I'm on #vr and no that doesn't actually happen. Stop talking out of your ass.

>>1161664

You actually don't have a "reputation" on IRC channels because there's nothing stopping you from leaving, changing names and IP addresses, and returning.

>>1161481
I fucking hate IRC, why should I go there?

>>1161660
What's wrong with wanting anonymity? Why are you posting here if you don't like it? Why aren't you a tripfag yet? HUH?!

>muh leegin
This doesn't even come close to being relevant here.

>>1160785
link?

>>1161687
>why should i go there
so we can talk about doom things here without making the janitor cranky

IRC is for all things off topic, basically

>>1161690
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37728
Shit goes down on page 2.

>>1161691
>IRC is for all things off topic, basically
you mean you don't talk about doom in there? i don't want to hear about politics or death metal or whatever else all day

>>1161691
But communicating via IRC is very cumbersome, if not downright impossible. Especially if you plan on writing long posts. Which is why I strongly dislike IRC and any kinds of chatrooms in general.

Crazy Shit That People Can Do With Doom Time!

todays feature is an ebook reader that can run doom on an e-ink screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOPZrVsCEHg

>>1161696
we talk about doom, yes around 80% of the time. its usually the off hours that people get board about doom and have a little rant about life and shit
cause we all friends in there

>>1161696
I've been in there for a long time and have yet to hear any of the things you described.

>>1161697
>But communicating via IRC is very cumbersome, if not downright impossible

>>1161694
haha, even the thread title is hilarious. thank you very much.

>>1161697
>very cumbersome
>writing long posts
As opposed to posting here, where you have to fill out nightmare-difficulty captchas (or pay $20, if you're a casual) to post and are limited to only 2000 characters per post.

>>1161694
What the hell? He didn't get banned when that thread happened. It was closed long before. So how did that happen now?

These people are such pussies, dude should just open up his own forum and be done with that part of the community.

>>1161710
A moderator that wasn't wildweasel showed up and didn't like what he saw. Wildweasel gave him the go-ahead to ban and it was done.

>>1161710
like tormentor667?

>>1161697
>But communicating via IRC is very cumbersome, if not downright impossible. Especially if you plan on writing long posts. Which is why I strongly dislike IRC and any kinds of chatrooms in general.

I don't think you even know what IRC is. Anyway, just drop the issue, everyone. This is stupid.

>>1161716
What a great system.

>>1161718
Who?

>>1161720
He was already on really thin ice, given the whole suicide shitfest, the racism shitfest before that, and the various other prior shitstorms he participated in. This was just the last straw.

>>1161720
>>1161710

>Spics complaining when their leaderspic gets banned

>>1161719
Sure I do, it's Internet Relay Chat. You need an extra program to connect or you can use a Firefox plugin, oh and it sucks ass.

It's usually a circlejerk so intense that if you go in it feels like you are walking in on a gay orgy, mods are always far gone into insanity, kicking and muting people for shits and giggles.

>>1161720
Tormentor667 was the previous holder of the title of the Doom community's most divisive individual.

He'd release a new wad, usually having hyped it to oblivion for months or years beforehand, and hundreds of fanboys would publically fellate him. Then others would point out that the wad was little more than corridors with massive amounts of detail and eye candy, and a huge argument would kick off.

His detailling guide won a cacoaward for worst wad of the year, IIRC.

>>1161720
>Who?
exactly.

face it, making your own forum just isolates you, and you end up not being relevant anymore, which doesn't help the problem of not being able to get the word out. the only people who know what you're doing anymore are the fans who actively seek you out. new blood stops flowing in.

you still fade into obscurity, like all the other fuckups.

>>1161735
"I have to download an extra program to use it tHAT MAKES IT CUMBERSOME"
If that's how you're phrasing it, why do you play Doom wads? You have to download the source port, the IWAD, and the PWAD. Then you have to load it up with drag and drops or the command line.

Fuck you.

>>1161731
All those shitfests were fabricated by the people who want him out for other reasons.

Oh and you forgot to mention that he is also a misogynist. Oh the humanity.

>>1161745
No, it's cumbersome because the reply line is too small so you have to copypaste from a notepad, also if you get disconnected the whole thread is gone. I'm sure there's ways around all that but that still leaves the other issues with the dynamic those circlejerks always develop over time.

>Fuck you.
Because I don't like IRC? Lol, that's ridiculous. See, that's why I hate IRC, people like you are there and like it there.

So what determines when r_fuzztype is used and when gl_fuzztype is used?

>>1161752
>No, it's cumbersome because the reply line is too small so you have to copypaste from a notepad

You are making shit up.
Like, whole cloth.

>>1161737
Well I guess you saved the Doom community then by killing the most innovative mod to come out in years. Congrats, you hero. I bet you really believe that too.

>>1161745
nevertheless, his point about it being a dreadful circlejerk is quite valid. see >>1161707 who admits its a big circlejerk at least in "off hours".

>>1161760
>the most innovative mod to come out in years
Yeah, gore mods were never done before. Neither were effect mods, or weapon/monster mods, for that matter.

>>1161757
>You are making shit up.
I said I'm sure there's way around that or programs where you can expand it.

>Like, whole cloth.
What? I don't even know what you are talking about.

>>1161760
you're just shitposting on purpose.


MODS MODSMODSMDOSMDAmdgfhg.

>>1161752
>reply line too small
oh man I can't see my paragraph of text all at once even though irc is meant for realtime chatting *oh god*

>implying irc conversations are like threads
if you're going to irc acting like it's 100% a clone of 4chan, of fucking course you're going to be disappointed because it isn't

that's like saying "oh but if I get pulled away from a real life conversation the entire conversation dies"

well *no shit*, that's how conversations *work*

>circlejerks
nigger what

>>1161694
>Eric's fucking post

Holy shit I'm screencapping this for future reference

>>1161760
>The most innovative mod to come in years

>>1161764
Not in a neat package like that and with that overall direction.

It's like hating on Tarantino for stealing themes, mood, stories and whatever else isn't nailed down. Sure, you have a valid point but the end product is still something unique that hadn't been done before in that form all together.

>>1161769
nigger stop. this shit will go nowhere.

>>1161754
just a guess but i imagine r_ is used in software mode and gl_ in hardware mode...?

>>1161769
>oh man I can't see my paragraph of text all at once even though irc is meant for realtime chatting *oh god*

I do not like real time chatting. How is that so hard to understand or accept?

>circlejerks
>nigger what

I don't want "internet friends". I don't want to know about your life. I don't want to know about your dog. I don't want to know about your job.

Fuck all that shit.

>>1161763

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=making+things+up+out+of+whole+cloth

>>1161769
>oh man I can't see my paragraph of text all at once
How is that not the definition of cumbersome?... Especially if you like writing long posts?

>>1161760
>the most innovative mod to come out in years

>>1161779
But I'm using GZDoom and it seems to always prefer r_fuzztype to gl_fuzztype...

>>1161784
>>1161774
>>1161768
You can stop samefagging now.

Alternatively you can make a screenshot and sop two (you)s out of them to prove to me that you are not samefagging.

Or just stay mad.

>>1161780
>>1161787
>I write long posts
>I don't like talking in real time.
>I don't care about you

Confirmed for basement-dwelling internet recluse.

>>1161780
>How is that so hard to understand or accept?
maybe because you never actually said it and instead kept going on about reply lines and circlejerks

anyway the irc's still about doom, dunno why it got described as "off-topic" when it's really "shit that the mods don't want to deal with"

>>1161791

>>1161792
Yes, obviously that's the only logical conclusion if one dislikes IRC.

It's not like a bunch of lowlifes would flock to IRC to feel less lonely and jerk each other off 24/7. Such a thing surely would never happen. It must be all those people not using IRC who are the basement dwellers.

>>1161791

I never understood this mentality.
Is it really so hard to believe that there might be more than one person who doesn't agree with you? That, no, they MUST be the same person?
Always makes me wonder what kind of person would seriously believe that.

I have nothing relevant to add, so polite sage for off-topic. Have a burger.

>>1161796
Nice shop.

>>1161801
step one of ignoring the snapping tool: claim its a shoop

>>1161770
Okay, but Brutal Doom still isn't the most innovative mod to come out in years. Hideous Destructor is more innovative, though I guess since it started 3 years before Brutal Doom it doesn't count. Reelism is more innovative. Project MSX is more innovative. Pokemon Doom: Titanium is more innovative. I could keep going if you want. The point is that Brutal Doom is smalltime and you might as well have said that Halo invented FPS while you were at it.

>>1161802
Well of course you can just edit the site before taking the screenshot. That's much easier, I agree.

>>1161798

It's the /v/ mindset. Ignore it and it goes away.

Christ /doom/. All day you've been nothing but shitposts. I seriously hope the janitor is still up, because my report button is sore.

ENOUGH SHITPOSTING

POST REELISM RESULTS SCREENS

HEY GUYS LOOK DOOM

>>1161805
>Hideous Destructor

Stop and pop gameplay is innovative? That disgusting mod takes all the worst things about modern shooter gameplay and puts them into Doom. The ironsights in BD are bad enough but HD takes it to a whole nother level with that cancerous snail paced cover shooting bullshit. Why even play Doom if you like that?

I do not understand why people like that mod.

>>1161797
It's the logical conclusion if someone can't stand participating in a interactive conversation.

How many real-life conversations have you been in where the other party was silent for four hours waiting for you to finish your statement until you say "And now I'm done. You may now say anything you wanted to say."

No, that doesn't happen.

Plus most of your posts have been single/double line posts, which completely contradicts your "I enjoy writing long posts" argument.

>>1161791
>pic related

Guise, guise.
I downloaded Chocolate Doom, I placed Doom1 & 2 wads in the same folder, but it only plays Doom 2.
It doesn't give me the option to chose. Even if I drag the wad and drop in the exe it doesn't work.

How do I play doom 1 in it?

>>1161706
>template
Oh shit
Oh shit

>>1161805
If you don't want to call it innovative, that's fine. It's still the most polished and most impressive overall package of modifications and I'll be sad if it stops getting updated because of this bullshit hate campaign by a bunch off butthurt purists.

>>1161813
Did someone save the rest of these?

>>1161820
chocolate-doom.exe -iwad doom.wad

>>1161815
Get on my level, son.

>>1161819
It's finally happening...

>>1161821
>Most polished

I don't think you've even played reelism.

>>1161819
Wow, it's Romero's head as small as it looks? or it's just that the size fucked while making the template?

>>1161826
Oh, I had a few more story ideas too, should I get on IRC or just shoot you an email?

>>1161831
No, it's just that I traced along Carmack's hair because it was helmet-y.

>>1161824
Does anyone know where the "Post-Game Stats music is from?

>>1161817
>It's the logical conclusion if someone can't stand participating in a interactive conversation.
I do that in real life.

>How many real-life conversations have you been in where the other party was silent for four hours waiting for you to finish your statement until you say "And now I'm done. You may now say anything you wanted to say."
Internet isn't a real life conversation. I don't have time to observe and take part in a conversation on the computer without breaks. I go to another website and read an article. I go play some videogames. I watch an episode of a TV show. I google something interesting. I write a fucking email.

And from time to time I pop back into a thread and write a response. I don't sit there like an autist observing the screen, waiting for somebody to reply to me.

>No, that doesn't happen.
I bet real life conversations don't happen at all for you.

>Plus most of your posts have been single/double line posts, which completely contradicts your "I enjoy writing long posts" argument.
When there is something to argue about, you point by point.

Jesus Christ you are pathetic. And all because I don't like the dynamics of IRC. Holy shit, dude, Get a grip.

>>1161835
Lol, it's just "The Hair" then, cool

>>1161821
>brutal doom
>polished

how long has it had that one bug where fatalities remove invulnerability (eta: 5 minutes)?

how long has seven rockets been around (eta: five minutes to slap a damage factor on an actor)?

how long has crashing zandronum been around?

I'm not exactly a purist (I literally only play doom with mods), but calling brutal doom the most polished mod in zdoom's a very, very large stretch

project msx is a lot more polished from what I've seen, and that was made by one guy with a bunch of model and sound rips

>>1161836
I think we really need to make a list of where all the music in Reelism comes from

Only recently I noticed some of the soundtracks used were in Mega Man X

>>1161838
dude stop. you look retarded.

>>1161842
I remember that one bug where fatalities turned monsters into Cacodemons.

That was good.

>>1161836
Drove me crazy too. I dug through the files to find it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzPncQgJNKA

>>1161661
not that I know of unfortunately. iirc the end of the wad has an underwater fight, don't remember if you can swim around or not.

>>1161838
#rekt

>>1161841
Yeah, I should probably make Romero's helmet larger.

>>1161821
Brutal Doom is a complete mess of coding. For playing it, you get the privelege of sitting through pages of errors as it loads up and every new release comes with a slieu of glitches.

It's a massive, poorly-planned mod, made entirely of spaghetti code

>>1161814
>Stop and pop gameplay is innovative?
Can you name a mod that changes the gameplay more than HD? I'll wait.

>Why even play Doom if you like that?
Because you can? Playing one mod doesn't mean that you can't play others and vanilla, you know.

>I do not understand why people like that mod.
It's challenging to the point of masochism, which makes getting gud that much more rewarding. It's quite the survival experience, and two-player HD survival is possibly the most fun I've had with co-op. It obviously can't be everyone's cup of tea, but to say "I don't get why people have opinions that don't match mine" is just ignorant.

>>1161851
Thanks man

>>1161836

Theres a couple

J-League Soccer Prime Goal 2 - Menu theme
Actraiser - Round Clear
Madden NFL'98 - End of Game
Cannon Fodder - Heros of War
Jim Lee's Wild C.A.T.S. - Main Theme
Battletoads in Battlemaniacs - Victory
NBA Give N Go - Congratulations
Princess Minerva - Last of Chapters
Megaman X - Credits

Probably more including the updates and such

>>1161842
Well, if you don't wanna call it polished, you can call it the most innovative.

Whatever it is, the mod does something right. It's a neat compilation.

>>1161863
I wasn't talking about code, I meant in terms of gameplay.

>>1161821
It's not going to stop getting updated because of a "hate campaign", it's going to stop getting updated because Mark has alienated all his main resource providers.

>>1161865
>you can call it the most innovative.

>>1161869
If that's the case then why campaign so hard to get him banned from everywhere?

>>1161865
Reelism.
Hideous Destructor
Samsara
That one ZDoom mod that guy came up with in an hour where you play as a cacodemon and have to collect all the dots in the fewest moves in an isometric perspective.
They're all more innovative than Brutal Doom, which is just "doom but more bluudy and gorey and 'harder'"

>>1161831
I swear I didn't touch the size when I made the template, I just moved Carmack and Romero beside eachother.

>>1161873
There's no "campaign". The guy is just enough of a sperglord that he can start shit on ZDoom forums and end up getting banned on Zandronum forums for it.

>>1161865
>MOST innovative

Cyberrunner.

>>1161879
TECHNICALLY parkmore beat cyberrunner to that, but cyberrunner is basically parkmore2.0

>>1161872
Well, they said the same about Pulp Fiction when it came out. The most innovative film of the 90s is what they said.

You can claim that's wrong and I guess you've got a point because it borrows and steals a lot of stuff from elsewhere but the all together package, putting it all into one thing is what's innovative.

If it isn't innovative, name a mod that did what Brutal Doom did before Brutal Doom existed. Not just one thing here and there, everything together in one mod.

>>1161880
If you're ijon, you don't need to read the rest of this reply.

If you're not ijon, it might interest you to know that the coder for parkmore is literally the coder for cyberrunner. Not that you were disagreeing with me or anything.

>>1161874
>Hideous Destructor
>innovative

How is that innovative if BD isn't? Just because you steal gameplay from other sources doesn't make you more innovative.

>>1161884
im not ijon, and i knew that

>it's just a gore mod

No. That's really unfair. It's not just a gore mod, it is THE gore mod.

There hasn't been a game or a mod before it with more gore, not even SoF had more gore.

If you hate gore that's fine but in the realm of gore, Brutal Doom certainly is innovative.

>>1161884
>it might interest you to know that the coder for parkmore is literally the coder for cyberrunner

didn't ijon and terminus have a falling out?
either way ijon isn't doing anything for doom

Guys how do you organize your WADs, source ports and stuff?
My Doom folder's a fucking mess and my autism can't let this continue

>>1161389
>If we could just really duke it out once or twice I'm sure people will get tired of the issue anyway

truer words have never been spoken amirite?

it sure is fun not having shitfests over brutal doom since we all got it out of our systems hours ago, huh gang?

>>1161389
>If we could just really duke it out once or twice I'm sure people will get tired of the issue anyway

truer words have never been spoken amirite?

it sure is fun not having shitfests over brutal doom since we all got it out of our systems hours ago

>>1161885
BD doesn't make the massive gameplay changes HD does. Doesn't even come close. Brutal Doom is Doom with a few modern FPS features and the gore turned up to 11 million, Hideous Destructor is pretty much a completely different game.

>>1161891
I dunno about that but I do know Term has moved on to making his own games. I still hop on IRC to see how he's doing occasionally.

>>1161885
Whoops fuck I thought I had deleted that one from the list.
I typed it and was like "wait nah"
Fuck me up the asshole. Whoops.

>>1161890
What is Blood?

>>1161893
No, it's CoD meets STALKER with the difficulty cranked up to impossible.

>>1161891
>ijon isn't doing anything for doom
You wanna know how I can tell you don't frequent the IRC channel?

>>1161887
The answer is simple, you don't

>>1161896
That had a decent amount blood but still not nearly as much as BD.

>>1161897
>hideous destructor
>comparable to COD in any way
This just proves to me that you haven't played it and are hating on it solely because you don't run around at 50 mph.

>>1161893
>Hideous Destructor is pretty much a completely different game.
Yeah, a completely different game from the best FPS ever made.

Very similar to the mainstream shit produced today though, just more difficult. I'm not going to argue it isn't different from Doom, it is. It's just that it's shit, precisely because it's so different from original Doom, and not really innovative.

>>1161905
>taking cover
>aiming down ironsights
>not like CoD

>>1161905
>run around at 50 mph
>implying that's a bad thing

Why do you even play Doom if you hate it?

>>1161910
>>1161897
plebs pls at least play it before trying to criticize it

especially if you're going to defend brutal PRESS X TO WATCH DOOMGUY RIP AND TEAR doom at the same time

>>1161913
How the dicks did you fight archviles without running for cover
It's not a goddamn CoD thing to take cover.

>>1161917
You only have to run into cover for a second to evade an archville attack. Camping there would be a bad idea though.

>>1161913
>taking cover
>implying you don't do this in doom as well

>aiming down ironsights
Doesn't happen, or at least not like COD at all. If you stand still, you'll get a crosshair and reduced recoil, most noticeably on automatic weapons. Your weapons won't have their spreads magically decrease just because you're holding the gun up to your nose.

>>1161916
When did I say I hate Doom? Contrary to what you Brutal Doom babbies seem to believe, liking one mod doesn't restrict you to playing it and only it.

>>1161920
>>implying you don't do this in doom as well
>implying it's the same
>implying you stay there

Are you really trying to convince me that Doom, the archetypical run and gun FPS, is a cover based shooter just because there are instances where you can use cover? By that logic every cover based shooter is actually a run and gun game because you have to gun from behind the cover and run from cover to cover.

>See Doom thread burn through posts about drama and semantics instead of fun Doom stuff
I am bumming out hardcore. Bad vibes, maaaan. Bad juju everywhere.

Is there a megawad that strictly uses Doom 64 assets? That needs to be a thing. Like some kind of harder remix of Doom 64. I played the PSX TC and I want more of dat atmosphere.

>>1161925
>babies

1983 here. but yeah, go ahead and call me a baby for liking Brutal Doom. I bet you hated Braindead too when it came out.

>>1161928
>implying you stay behind cover in HD either
Maybe if you're some sort of scrub.

>>1161913
>CoD Literally Invented The Most Basic Non-Arena FPS Tropes, News At 11

>>1161929
Strictly Doom 64? Not that I'm aware of.

>>1161938
Keep thinking like a baby and I'll keep treating you like one, chump.

>>1161934
Iron sights really weren't a thing before CoD became big. You'd know that if you weren't a teenager.

>>1161929
Wasn't somebody making a wad that gave everything vanilla Doom64 graphics?

>>1161891
>>1161898
yeah i'm pretty sure i saw his name in the list of people who've done maps for doomworld mega project 2013

>>1161940
Perhaps not strictly, but things like enemy sprites, textures, mood lighting, music and reverb. I really want to see something like a custom megawad done in Doom 64's style and atmosphere.

>>1161941
>>1161945
>>1161938
I am super happy to hear all these new young people are finding Doom at such a late time. When did this start?

You mean all the doom shitposters aren't just people who played in the 80s and returned recently, ignoring the rest of the modding community?

also
>CoD made ironsights popular thus inventing them
Perfect Dark let you use the iron sights of the AR34 as an altfire mode. It also, using the GE engine, had ducking around corners and ducking for cover. Quake had that shit too but if you want to argue that arena shooters didn't really utilize cover, go ahead, but a fucking N64 FPS series that most PC FPS fans call a shit did it before CoD so why are we even talking about this.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/66003-abcess-wad-public-beta-6-maps-download-link-now-working/

If you liked realm of chaos this is worth checking out, it's a bunch of maps made by one of the contributors just after it was finished

i just did map01, it was pretty easy although you have to watch your health (lots of zombies, not many health items)

>>1161852
Given that it's a Boom wad, I doubt it. It's probably just a room with water textures on the ceiling.

>>1161945
>chump

Yeah, you sound like a real winner.

>>1161978
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
>IF YOU LIKE ONE MOD YOU CAN'T LIKE ANYTHING ELSE
you too m8

>>1161956
>play Doom
>in the 80s

>>1161956
>why are we even talking about this
because mark got b& from zdoom and we are riding the backlash

>>1161956
Did anyone actually use the AR34's alt-fire extensively?

Still my favorite PD gun

>>1161831
Perspective.. the template does come from a photo..

>>1161982
Whether you like BD or not, that banning is a bunch of bullshit.

>>1161981
>me being this big of a shithead

I'll just go kill myself now.

>>1161989
>guy A is an asshole on a forum
>gets banned for being an asshole
>guy B is an asshole on a forum
>it's okay though because he made a mod that brought a shitload of children into the community
Please.

>>1161989
i kinda agree, if only because mark will continue to live in the delusion that his mod is the best thing since sliced bread and everyone else is jelly.

>>1161992
>Bringing children into the community
>okay

pick one

>>1161994
thatsthepoint.png

>>1161994
He was pointing out the strawman, Zenon.

>>1161992
If they were banning people for being assholes they should've banned that guy who blogged about being emo and wanting kill his mother as well or that Eric guy for being on a shit crusade.

They aren't consistent, that's why the banning is bullshit. Besides, if they were banning for him being an asshole, they should've banned him for telling that lunatic to off himself, not for defending himself in a thread where he was being shit talked.

It's a bullshit ban.

>>1161994
>the point
>your head

So, is he gonna get banned from Doomworld too now?

>>1161994

>>1161997
No, see, it's the repeat offenders. Mark's never taken criticism well, definitely not after getting the cacoward. Every time someone criticizes his mod, all he can do is scream "JEALOUS! YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS!". He doesn't show anyone, even the people who made most of the content in his mod, the slightest hint of respect. Any time he's called out on being an asshole to someone, he shifts into reverse gear and floors the pedal, crying the entire time "I WAS JUST JOKING, IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU GUYS DON'T GET MY HUMOR". This happens every time, without fail. He was on thin ice before the suicide thing, and I still can't tell you why they didn't just ban him there, but this latest incident is just the last straw in a long line of last straws before it.

>>1162009
>people get upset about real gore
oh wow it's nothing. artist have used real gore as inspiration and reference since forever. totally fabricated

>the "racist" joke
oh wow it's fucking nothing. that was burried deep inside the code and it wasn't even a racist joke in that it joked about niggers being inferior, it was just a joke containing the word nigger. wanna hear a racist joke? why are all niggers such fast runners? because all the slow ones are in jail. THAT is a racist joke

>telling the faggot to kill himself
this is the only somewhat valid thing. that was dickish but it's not really something I care about and the guy posting the OP clearly was an asshole himself (fantasizing about killing his mother) who should've been banned himself

>doesn't react well to criticism
I'm sure he handled it better in the beginning but you have to try and appreciate the situation here. there are so many purists that just hate him and give him shit constantly that he's gotta be fed up with it by now. If anything I think he handles it fairly well. he could be reacting much worse.

telling someone they are jealous shouldn't be a bannable offense.

but hey, you wanted him out and you got your wish, you should be happy now. why are you still so mad?

>>1162007
I think he already was long before Zan or ZDoom, but if not it hardly matters because Doomworld, being purist central, already hates him.

>>1162016
hi mark

>>1162017
I guess he could team up with the 667 guy. Are there anymore people like that? They could form a community of outcasts.

That'd be kinda cool. The Refinery was neat.

>>1162016
>If anything I think he handles it fairly well.
His reaction to people calling Brutal Strife the blatant rehash that it was was "YOU GUYS ARE ALL JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE NONE OF YOU CAN MAKE A HALF-DECENT WAD", complete with some shit from memegenerator mocking anyone that criticizes his mods. If that's handling it "fairly well", I'm not sure I want to know what your idea of handling criticism "badly" is.

>>1162021
I'm not but it figures that that's all you can come up since all your "points" for hating him amount to nothing at all. In the end the only reason is that you hate his mod and the crowd his mod has attracted. If only you could just be honest about that.

>>1162025
again, hi mark

>>1162026
I have to admit that I'm not familiar with everything he has ever posted since I'm not stalking him you do but at some point everybody snaps.

>>1162027
Go to bed, Eric?

>>1162029
> implying I'm eric

>>1162029
Don't make me post the fucking 5-page PM Mark sent to Eric.

>>1162032
> implying I'm Mark

>>1162034
Oh, please do.

That I want to see.

Pretty please.

>>1162037
You want it? You got it!

1/5

>>1162041

>>1162039

>>1162046
and that's it

enjoy the read, and thx marrub for co-op dumping

>>1162039
>>1162041
>>1162043

Yes, go on.

>>1162043

>>1162039
>>1162041
>>1162043
>>1162046
>>1162048

Where did you get this from? Are you an Eric?

>>1162050
he posted it on the irc channel when he got it