/vr/ - Retro Games

I'd beat it to play a music instrument

>>1152671
>it
My child will be a he, or me and my wife will have some serious problems.

>>1152671
Sure Snape, why not. I let him kick his ass in Shumps games.

Older games are easier to just pick up and play, so they're ideal for kids.

>>1152671
I would shelter the child from video games

when it heard about them, i would give it an NES
each time it complained, i would give it another slightly-less-retro system

by the time it's 18, hopefully it will have a present-day vidyamachine

gaymen PC always present, of course

>>1152671
>wanting your children to like video games
I wish I never got into this sedentary, intellectually stagnating time sink of a "hobby"

>>1153029
What's stopping you from quitting?

I'd tell any son or daughter to stay away from them.

>>1153029

>>1152671
Older. He or she would be provided with the same games I played, because my taste will undoubtedly be superiour to that of his or her generation. (I only had access to consoles from previous generations growing up because we couldn't afford new consoles, as a result I got to experience some of the best games the world has to offer.)

you guys know dick all about children

they sap your fucking life out, so that you no longer have the time or attention for 'your interests'

the kid is going to do whatever he's going to do, and he will care about your old shit for all of 10 seconds before he moves on to something else

it doesnt hurt to play strategy games with the little shit, but an actual education and some self confidence is what will make him smart or successful, not gaming skills

>>1153043
It seems like your childhood was euphoric.

My childhood started with the NES and Genesis, but I grew interest in the classics when I found out that the NES wasn't the first video game system. I went all apeshit happy when I found a colecovision and a 2600 at a yard sale with a crap ton of games. I played the ever loving piss out of all of them, then moved onto computer stuff like vic 20, atari xe, and C64, not to mention all the old dos games I was playing at the time. I always just loved video games so much, modern and retro. I like to think my kid would be the same way and merely just want to explore games at his or her own pace. For me, it was always about the magic of discovery.

>>1153048
Sounds like your children lead wonderful lives.

I've got kids, and they're very much into what I do. Do what you love and they'll most likely show an interest too.

>trying to force your tastes onto your kid

ITT shit parenting.

Both, I guess. I don't want to force my childhood on them, but newer games for the most part aren't age appropriate and would probably be much harder to control for a small child.

Probably some old and new Mario games since they're colourful, imaginative and appropriate for kids. Plus he's a character that'll probably be around forever so they can grow up with him too.

>>1153075
they are only patronizing you bruh

My kids won't be into videogames. It'll be sports and musical instruments for them little shits.

They'll be thankful once they start getting laid way more than their friends.

I wouldn't. I'd let him discover video games on his own, and he would buy them with his own money, aside from one or two new games on a Christmas or birthday. That's how it was in my parents' household, and that's how it'll be in mine.

>>1153101
Video games prevent nobody from getting laid, getting laid is only a matter of effort. That said video games are far superior than spending time chasing tail. Women are stupid and easy to manipulate but not worth my time.

>>1153118

>what is defense mechanism for being ugly and possessing no game, Alex

>>1153118

Having skills, developing your talents, and a fit body will make you happy, and it will also get you laid easily. You don't need to chase any tail when it all comes to you because you're an attractive guy.

>>1153120
Getting laid is EASY you dumbass, its not worth the time moron. Infact I spent this weekend getting laid instead of playing video games because my car broke down. It wasn't as satisfying either. So what if my eyes roll back and my spine turns to jelly that shit only lasts a couple seconds then I am bored again. Like its nice as a release every once in a while but I'd rather game.

>>1153132

Am I on gamefaqs?

PS1 and GameBoy games would be a good start. Stuff like Spyro, Tomba!, Tekken 2, Crash Bandicoot: Warped, and Gran Turismo 2 for the PS1, and Pokémon games for the GameBoy.

I would probably start them off with this kind of stuff around age 7 or 8 and kinda go from there depending on what they like. Also, if I do have kids, their 13th birthday presents will probably be Grand Theft Auto III and the boxed set of Gurren Lagann, as a sort of rite of passage.

>>1153029
You can quit at any time

>>1153162
You can't just quit an addiction, especially not a severe one like gaming.

It's a real mystery why there are people on /vr/ who don't actually want to share video games with their children.

>>1153148
>their 13th birthday presents will probably be Grand Theft Auto III and the boxed set of Gurren Lagann, as a sort of rite of passage
pleb mitzvah

>>1153216

It's a mystery why people would force their old ass shit onto their children. It's like a dad shoving dad rock down his son's throat. Bound to go badly. If they wanna play and they show earnest interest I'll talk with him about and recommend stuff like an adult.

>>1153223
It's like you read what you want to read instead of what's there.

>>1153120
>he thinks sex is the most important thing in the universe

Women have become the dominant sex in our society by teaching boys from an early age that attention from females is the only thing that matters. By making themselves gatekeeper to men's sense of self-worth, they ensure that men will always behave in a manner beneficial to women.

When a man engages in activities for his own enjoyment and not that of a woman's, out come the insults. "Manchild! Nerd! Virgin!" Notice how "manchildish" activities are simply any activity that doesn't revolve around women?

Feminists love complaining about "if a man has lots of sex he is a stud / if a woman has lots of sex she is a slut", but that stud/slut dynamic is the only thing that gives women power in our society. Men will dance through flaming rings, crawl over broken glass, wade nose-deep through rivers of molten feces, as long as the carrot of sex is dangled before his gullible face. Women have made their vaginas the most important thing in a man's life, because the only alternative would be to compete with men in things that actually matter (like politics, or the sciences), a feat of which they are utterly incapable.

Virgin-shaming is a modern feminist construct.

>>1153261
says the virgin. The purpose of fucking is to procreate our species. It has nothing to do with women controlling our self-worth.

>>1153081
This all the fucking way

>>1153261
>out come the insults. "Manchild! Nerd! Virgin!"

>>1153285
>says the virgin.

Can I call it or what?

>>1153285
I don't fuck to procreate you idiot, the last think I want is more responsibilities. I fuck for a hormonal release and it feels a lot better than doing it myself. Getting someone else to make me have an orgasm is not hard, you have to give fucking some special meaning because you work so hard to get it.

Oh my god this thread.

>I'm not a nerd! I have sex with girls all the time! You're a virgin!
>No, YOU'RE the virgin for not liking sex as much as I do! Which I do, because I have it a lot! I totally had sex last week!

You guys are pathetic. I don't really care how much sex you have or don't have, but it takes a special kind of insecure to look for validation on 4chan of all places.

Holy shit, this is really GameFAQs meets /pol/ the thread. Don't bust a vein with all that women hatred and virgin defense.

>>1153101
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>>1153339
Don't acknowledge the shitposters. Report and ignore them.

For my nephew's 3rd birthday, I gave him my NES and games (most of the games were his dad's anyway.)

So far he's only played the Big Bird's Hide and Speak game.

>>1153341
hey you shut up

>>1153090
Pretending to like stuff other people like is an important social skill. When you try to act like the smartest guy in the room and hate on everything, that gives off bad vibes.

>>1153261
This post kinda smacks of angry virginity but it does have a few good points. We live in a society where men live to please women. Traditionally it's usually been the opposite.

Nobody actually wants equality. "Progress" is when the dominant group becomes subservient.

>>>/v/

No one cares, neckbeards.

>>1153327
>>1153337
Virgins are only virgins because of their choosing. The problem was the fags that think getting laid is some sort of achievement and video games will prevent that from happening.

Well this thread is going downhill in a hurry. Also, Donkey Kong Country on SNES

>>1153357
You only remind me why I've given up pretending to give a shit about being social.

>>1153029
>I wish I never got into this sedentary, intellectually stagnating time sink of a "hobby"

Get the fuck off of /v/, then.

>Feeding the troll. *sigh*

Anyway...
I'd teach them the same way I learned: weak-ass barebones PC with zero internet hookup and a couple controllers attached in case they don't like the keyboard or something. No wireless in my house to make things harder to break out of. Start with NES emulator and add more games/emulators as they beat the old ones. Tell them that in order to get new games they must beat the old ones.

If they complain? Offer to get the game they wanted as long as they beat every predecessor first. Sure I'll buy you GTA 16... start with the PS1 version. GO!

>>1153357
Being a sycophant is a bad thing to do, you untrue, manipulative fuck.

>>1152671
If the kid shows interest in games, I'll let them play what interests them. However I'll use my knowledge of games to limit content and play time, I'll be their ESRB. When they get older, we could try multiplayer games of sorts.

I played Battleship and Stratego with my father, now we play Civilization. It's worth it to share hobbies.

>>1152675
like michael jackson's dad

>>1152671
i only play older games with my son, he got scared of some ps3 fighter so thats out. and when my daughters old enough, itll be older games also.
pretty much what i play even when i have alone time is older shit

>having kids

>>1153427
Eh, it's your choice.

In polite society everyone wears a mask. You either play by the rules, or don't play.

>>1153162
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

Fucking faggot janitor needs to stop deleting all the funny shit

>>1152671
Older, no question, games were of much higher quality.

Im not going to force my children to play the vidya. I'll actually encourage them to get outside and work off their energy during the daylight. However, I'll still have all of my fine-aged retro consoles in plain-sight. The kids will have played them at some point in time during their childhood. There wont be any begging for "new consoles" until school starts, which will all be shut down with the argument of "We have thousands of very good video games now. They were good enough for me and your mom, you can play them too." Though, hopefully my children will pipe up with how awesome their dad's old shit is and the kids at school will be awe-struck by what a Super Nintendo is.

>>1155460
I will follow kat williams logic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvOtTwR_aCE

Ignore the shitty visials

>>1152671
>medium
Ugh, eat shit retard. Video games are not a "medium" and any responsible parent wouldn't let their kid play video games at all

>>1155485
>Video games are not a "medium"
I'll bite, what would you call it?

I have a child. He's 6 months old. At this phase in his development he wants to do what I'm doing so he's more focused on the controller than on the screen. Therefore touch screen games are his favorite and I'm sure for that reason they'll be the first games he learns how to play. Angry Birds seems like a very likely candidate.

Can anybody think of an educational game for Windows that would be even more intuitive for touch? I suppose I'd prefer his first to be educational.

>>1155485
What do you have against the concept of entertainment?

Both

That depends.

I think video games are a fantastic source of entertainment and in future years can provide great memories. My best memories from childhood are almost all me playing video games, or playing games with friends. I had my share of outdoor activities, swimming, mountain climbing, and sure those memories are nice, but I don't really get nostalgiac for any of that.

That being said I don't know. I feel like it would be amazing to have played an open ended massive world RPG as a child, because then in replaying it when older I could have found a million new things and enjoyed the game twice as much. I'd get my child to play some games that I like and I'd keep an eye on games that get released, but ultimately the child will play whatever it likes to play.

>>1155485
>and any responsible parent wouldn't let their kid play video games at all

lol

Also no. My kids will play whatever they want to, within reason (I'm not going to buy more games than we can afford, and I'm not going to let him/her play M rated games until I'm sure they can handle it)

I've no interest in trying to tweak their interests. If they want to join me for video games, fine. If not, also fine.

>>1155636
>Educational games
Firstly, it's been proven that "educational games" suck. Would you want to play any of them? Really? Instead focus on games that teach things you want the kid to learn without shoving it in your face.

Angry Birds is actually pretty high-up logic with geometry in it.Try something simpler like "Bang!"- the old canon game where you just try to fire one canon at another canon from across the screen. Cut the Rope is another option, though it also gets pretty hard.

Old adventure games are great for observation and learning to think outside the box. Play through them first to make sure there's nothing objectionable. Monkey Island series is pretty gentle, fun and interesting without being too hard.

Never underestimate platformers. They teach spacial reasoning, quick decisions and basic multitasking. This means plain old Mario Brothers is good for you.

And then there are rythm games. Learn music theory through application by things like counting beats, recognising octaves, and learning how to shift between rhythms. Rhythm Heaven and Rock Band Blitz aren't very hard and generally kid friendly.

You can also take ANY GAME and use it to teach stuff. This means getting off your butt and parenting... so do it. Here's an entire youtube channel that does this (for adults) if you need inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL35FE5C4B157509C9

This also means taking a good, long look at the games and deciding "Does this teach the kid something I want them to learn?". For example, Fat Princess looks cute and harmless but it turns a woman into a helpless object who is laughed at for her weight. Kids internalize stuff they grow up around. Think deeply and plan wisely.

From keeping an eye on my peers since grade school I'd say your ability to become a well-adjusted adult can be seriously hampered by a lot more things than this pastime. And many of those things are more socially acceptable or even encouraged.

I also believe one day the sedentary aspect of it will be toned down with new input technologies.

If you allow any pastime to seriously damage the other aspects of your life, you have an issue with self-control in general, not just video games.

A big part of self-confidence is to stop questioning yourself and what you enjoy for the sake of people who usually don't care about your well-being to begin with. I hope the champions of human excellence in this thread die from sodomizing impalement to the delight of their enemies.You are the problem, faggots.

>>1155773
And if I had a kid, and he or she was interested in video games,

I'd guide them into it by showing them different genres. I'd also have a stern talk with them about the dangers of excess. I don't want my kids to be more concerned about their virtual personalities than their real ones.

>>1152690
This.

You can't fuck up with a good rummage through Super Mario Bros. 3.

And by "good rummage" I mean "biting your lip fighting back the urge to take the controller after your kid keeps falling in the same pit multiple times."

>>1155787
Are you me? Sounds like exactly what I think any child's first attempt into the video gaming world should be. You would do well to shelter them from modern games at least until they get the basics and are able to read.

>>1152671
>If you had a child

>shoving your shit down your son's throat
The point of educating a kid is letting them find their own path.
I'd probably play old games around the house in front of him, but I wouldn't force my own preferences upon him. If he wanted to play it, it's fine. If not, I wouldn't mind giving a recent console, even though I don't really like newer games anymore, with a few exceptions each couple of years.

>>1155769
>Monkey Island for a six month old

>>1152671

My five-year-old niece loves playing with the iPad. I'm teaching her to play DoDonPachi Maximum.

video games? seriously? fuck that, he's not going through school as a loser. i thought we were supposed to help our kids live a better life than we did. that kid is going to play some goddamn sports.

>>1156284
>implying most kids don't play videogames these days
>implying your kid wouldn't be out of the loop if you don't let him play videogames

>>1156284
>not encouraging a healthy balance

Nerd athletes are the fucking best.

I have memories of playing Super Mario 3 and Battletoads with my mother when I was 2-3 years old.

My kids will probably have the same fate.

>>1156284
>>1156289
>>1156293
/v/ pls

Start them with Atari 2600 then just keep moving through the years

>>1153029
This. I will teach them other things while they're still young so they can avoid my mistakes. Obesity and sedentary lifestyles are hard to abandon, it's been an uphill battle for me, and I still have quite a way to go. They'll eat well, play, practice sports, but fatassery won't be tolerated. Same with poor school performance. If they choose to rebel they won't get shit for birthdays. They won't travel.

It's not crazy, abusive or militaristic. The rule is simple: "no spoiled child/teenager bullshit".

They can care about games later.

>>1153162
>I'm not addicted
>I can quit anytime I want
>I-I just don't want to...

>>1156284
>video games? seriously? fuck that, he's not going through school as a loser.
Every time I received a new belt in karate, I got a new console from my parents. True story.

>>1156485

So you got a new belt every couple of years? God damn you suck at karate

>>1156678
I got a new belt every several years, yeah, because I actually did the real thing, not your backyard ninja training with a hungover sensei called Bob.

>>1156692

>I sucked at karate because I did REAL karate

Whatever kind of karate you did, you did it horribly

>>1156709
Girls don't care whether you actually suck at karate as long as you've got the belts. If you understood that, you wouldn't have been the wizard you are.

>>1156716

If you think girls give a shit about your yellow belt that took you 10 years to get, you need to check your fedora at the door and lay off the minecraft

>>1156757
No, of course not, your belly that took ten years to get is way more impressive.

>>1156759

I'm vegan and do cardio every day, my stomach is flat as fuck. I'm like a greek god

>>1156761
>I'm vegan
>cardio
That's horrible. Poor sod. You probably look like a girl. You understand that's even worse than looking like a wimp, right?

>I'm like a greek god
A greek eromenos, more like. Ha ha! #wrecked

>>1156716
All the belts are bullshit that you use to impress girls. If you want to actually be able to defend yourself you learn Krav Maga or systema.

>>1156772
>All the belts are bullshit that you use to impress girls
Yes, yes, now you understand.

>>1156770

>changes insult from one extreme to the other, desperate to have something to say back

I take it you're not a black belt, huh? If any belt is going to impress someone else, it'd be a black belt. Nobody cares about anything else

>>1156791
Girls like uniforms. Black belts are actually less impressive, because they're a nerdy cliche, believe it or not.

As for extremes, your fault for thinking that being on a "vegan diet" (instead of an actually thought-out healthy diet) and doing fucking cardio is the opposite of being unfit. It's halfway there, but not the opposite, boy. Bet you get your ass slapped by hairy men every time you go in a bar.

>>1155787
This is what I do with niece and nephew, except with the newer Mario games so I can play alongside them and we can actually make some fucking progress.

>>1152690
Have you ever played with a kid under 15?

>>1156798

>Black belts are actually less impressive

No it actually isn't, that's just you trying to justify having the same belt as every 6 year old girl in the country

>your fault for thinking that being on a "vegan diet" (instead of an actually thought-out healthy diet) and doing fucking cardio is the opposite of being unfit

Vegan diet is the healthiest diet and cardiovascular exercise is the epitome of physical fitness, though I also weight train. Meanwhile you're trying to brag about doing junior karate

>>1156824
No, I'm "tyring to brag" about ahving done junior karate at school. And you are actually bragging about eating veggies and running with all the other girlfriends.

> though I also weight train
Now you remember about it, way after I made fun of your "diet" and your girly cardio. Sounds plausible. Very plausible.

>>1156839

Didn't mention it before because weight training doesn't get you a flat stomach, cardio exercise does. The irony is that despite you having a little kid karate belt and thinking you're some awesome fighter, I'd be able to kick your ass easily because I actually got myself in good physical shape. And before and after your ass has been kicked I'd have girls eyeballing me because they like my body, not your citrus-colored weaboo belt

>>1156849
>weight training doesn't get you a flat stomach, cardio exercise does
But that's wrong. Losing calories gets you a "flat stomach", which is acheivable by either, both or neither.

>>1156865

You lose calories and facilitate fat burning when you do cardio

>>1156867
You lose calories and facilitate cardio when you eat less than you expend, you imbecile. You can either do more cardio, or lift more, or even sit on your ass all day but eat less. Cardio doesn't get your stomach flat, the only thing it changes is the strength of your cardiovascular fucking system.

>>1156872

>you facilitate cardio when you eat less

The hell are you trying to say? You eat a shitload of carbohydrate, you run/jump/cycle, and you get all sucked up. That's the proper way to go. Starvation diets are as stupid as doing karate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV1j2VYi7ho&hd=1

>typical karate lesson

>>1156798
>Black belts are actually less impressive, because they're a nerdy cliche, believe it or not.

Yeah, I don't. Nobody even knows the other belts, or what the hell they mean. If someone has a black belt, I assume they at least have some dedication and skills. But doing karate at all is a nerdy cliche.

Pop Quiz: Who was the last karate guy to hold a UFC or even PRIDE belt?

The correct answer is that the first grand master of all seven styles of shaolin kung fu was also a wolfman

The strongest martial art is Aikido. You don't believe me? I think you shouldn't underestimate Aikido. Now I know you may be thinking, "Why take a weakling martial art like Aikido seriously when I am learning Kendo?" I can see why you would think that, how can a peaceful martial arts like Aikido beat a powerful one like Kendo?

Well, I have a story to share with you.

Years ago, I was a Kendoka, I thought I was the toughest kid in high school, I would pick fights, and kick ass. I was full of hate, until I picked a fight with the wrong dude. He was a Japanese exchange student, I still remember his name, Noboru Takeda.

I picked on him because of his hilarious and thick Japanese accent. I told him I was going to beat him so hard, he would go back to China(Yeah, I was a little racist prick.), he never said anything back, made me wanted to kick his ass even harder.

Well, here comes the fight. I threw men and do strikes, he dodged them like I was a mere white belt. I was tiring out and he knew, I saw the smirk on his face that made me raged hard. I put all my strength in one amazing tsuki, and he grabbed past it to my wrist and threw me over. My back smacked on the hard cement ground, and I was knocked out for who knows how long.

When I woke up I was in the school infirmary, I asked the nurse who brought me here, and you guessed it, Noboru Takeda. The next day, he wasn't at school, he was back in Japan, and I never got to thank him, for saving my life and showing me the light. I soon learned that he was an Aikidoka and have been practicing Aikido ever since to show my thanks to him.

I have defeated countless opponents using Aikido, and they always ask me, Why are you so strong?

I answer, I'm not strong, you are.

Aikido uses the strength of the attacker back at them but 10 times stronger(estimate). Using Aikido and I can probably kill a charging Rhino using it's force right back at it, of course, I'm not going to try it, way to dangerous for any sane person.

>>1157628
>People actually writing a near max length post about Aikido on /vr/

The "strongest" martial art is mixed. All modern champions practice their own style that favors their personal strengths.

The traditional "style" that is generally the most heavily represented - perhaps even to be considered the best core to adapt is Brazillian style Jiu Jitsu.

Sage for not /vr/

vidya is the only thing my parents got right.

>>1153029
dontforgetyourhereforever.jpg

Older, so they will actually have some hand eye coordination and problem solving skills when they grow up. I don't care about them sharing my tastes, i just don't want them to grow up autistic like all the XBL kids.

HOW DOES METROID CRAWL!?!?!

My god, just getting out of bed must be a truly daunting task for kids today.

>>1157646
This this this. And more this.

>>1159835
Also this.

Not posting the rest of the series. It's not /vr/ and it's even less on topic.

>>1159831

Can someone post that image of the girl back in the 90s playing Super Metroid and being awful at it?

I don't know why you people act like people being bad at video games is a recent invention.

>>1156390
Haha good luck with that

I think I'll probably try and initially get my kid into NES/SNES era games until they're like 10, and then go to PS1/N64 through PS?/XBawks/Nintendo Console? until they're like 15 then get them current consoles that way they can actually 1: appreciate how far games have come and 2: appreciate challenge in games and learn to see games that took alot of dedication and work to make like the Metal Gear series and games that are lazily slapped together each year like cawadoody.
>>1156390
I played a fuck ton of games as a kid and still got my work done. You just have to teach them moderation and discipline. They should think of video games as a reward for doing good in school and whatnot instead of something that will always be there for them. That way your kid (if they happen to like the same games as you) can have some of the same interests as you and you can have something to talk about with your kid.

>>1153029
>>1156469
Jesus. I thought that at least on /vr/ I would be able to escape this fucking cancer but I guess not.

>No son you can't get an iphone until you beat my contra score

I would let them learn and enjoy games for themselves. I am not going to micromanage my children at that level. I like both Retro and Modern games so I could careless what they play. If they seen me playing something older and got into it that would be great, if not I would simply try and enjoy what they are playing.

What I enjoy isn't better just because I enjoy it.

>>1160482
>I could careless
Ugh, you fucking idiot.

I'd put him to work on Ninja Gaiden, and I wouldn't give him any other game until he'd beaten it.

>>1160463
You'd have to be a pretty bad parent to give your child a smartphone.

>>1160530
why is that?

>>1156761
Greeks were all fags who wrestled and sucked each others dicks.

>>1156867
you burn more fat and calories lifting weights

>>1156716
>impressing girls with karate

I wish I lived in your country anon.
Here you impressed girls by failing your grades multiple times, smoking and being a general shithead with rich parents to fuel your failures.

>>1157617

Lyoto Machida is formed mainly on traditional Karate and BJJ, and back in the days Bas Rutten came mainly from Kyokushin, and it shows(high kicks, punches to the guts and liver).

Of course they integrated with modern stuff, but they still were successful fighters in their own right.

I will lock my children in my basement and hand them a retro console with the absolute classics for that console within every genre. When they've managed to beat all of them, I will hand them a newer console until they've worked their way up to the current gen. At that point I will release them into the world and they'll be ready for anything except social interaction.

>>1161029

I'm a pediatrist and this is the most sane and official studies-endorsed method.

I would make my kid beat battletoads and ninja turtles for nes before allowing them to get a modern console. they need to know pain and suffering before being allowed to play shitty baby mode modern games.

>>1161053
>furthering this shitmeme

Stop. Just... stop.

>>1156761
Not bashing cardio, as it's great for you, but if cardio is all you do, then you must be a skinny fuck, and girls aren't into that brah.

tldr; dyel?

>>1156867
this is complete horshit son, and you know it.

2/10

I had a teacher who taught his daughter about games by era.

Pretty sure he started her on the NES and worked her up from there. Same sort of linear progression for PC games, she'd beaten the Baldur games, Icewind Dale I & II, and was working her way through PS:T last I knew. Not bad for a 13 year old.

I could see myself doing something similar.

I'd let him play whatever he wanted provided it wouldn't cost me a fortune and he still doesn't forgets his sports and does his homeworks well first and foremost.

>>1161121
and you didn't marry his daughter why?

>>1161149
>making your kids do something as asinine and brain dead as sports
You mentally sick troglodyte.

>>1161156
>improvising tactical choices on the fly while other human opponents confront you with their own strategies and coordinating with a human team
>braindead

Unless we're talking bowling or darts, sports can be pretty well demanding, certainly more than memorizing patterns on a NES game and exploiting them because they never change.

>>1161193

Tends to help kids maximize their growth hormone output during those critical pubertal years, too.

Not necessarily going to make a small person big, but it helps the odds.

>>1153029
Can there be a game to end all games?

>>1152671
I let my kid get introduced to games by friends. If I'd given him a GB and and told him to take it to school and tell all his friends how superior it was to their DSLs he would have been forever branded as a pretentious hipster nerdfag.
Also, there are modern games designed for very young kids. My 4 year old had trouble understanding complex plot mechanisms such as you have to rescue the guy in the windmill before you can get across the bridge but stirring soup with a pen was easy enough.
As he grew up he moved on to more complex games but was never interested in old shit because they "looked bad". When he started playing Mario 64 I let me get 50 stars or so and then broke out the N64. After a few minutes he quickly realised that the DS version was a shit port of a game that was nearly a decade old.
After that it was conkers and rocket and then on to pre-3D consoles and arcade games. Once a kid gets over the mental block about old games not looking like new ones they begin to appreciate the challenging and superior game play that many classics offer when compared to the modern crap designed to allow autistic children to walk through a game in a few days.
That strategy worked well for me and we now play retro games together at least as much as modern one. I used to repair retro consoles and cabinets back when they weren't retro so I've started to do that in my spare time. Not only does it allow me to build an arsenal of machines for very little cash but he's showing interest in that as well.
Hope that helps

Probably not.

I'd be very particular about how I behaved around my kids, trying my best to encourage them to create before they consume. Ideally the kid would know some art forms, be well-read, mature for its age, have self-confidence, value learning, value working to make things, be self-aware enough to have humor, and have empathy.

The way I see it, video games and other sedentary consumer activities (television) are pretty dangerous for most kids. They get caught up in it and don't grow as much as they would have. They get really attached to comfort and resentful of struggle. The longer that attachment is reinforced, the longer the maturation period is going to take out of which they realize that resenting the world is counter productive and depressing.

But, it isn't inherently bad. Video games aren't any less stimulating than other forms of play. It's just finding the balance. A lot of parents are more than happy to sit their kids in front of a TV for 12 years. Just as long as they themselves can go sit in front of a TV after a long workday. It breeds mediocrity. Best to not encourage heavy video gaming to much. If later in life they find that they value video games to a great degree, that is their decision. It's the parents' job to equip their kid with solid decision making abilities so that they can be a self-sufficient, productive person.

Games that I like and aren't overly complicated for a kid. That way it would be a shared experience Just an aside, kids who play video games in moderation, ie under an hour a day actually tend to be better adjusted than those who don't. Watching too much TV is correlated with more negative effects than gaming for children in general.

>>1155769

I remember years back when MovieBob (yes, I know) made a video for others to show for parents and older people about shopping video games for Christmas, mentioning that Pokemon titles as a rudimentary RPG teaches strategy, arithmetic, percentages, and reading for a child (later ones outside of /vr/'s timeline can also teach foreign languages if the child wishes).

As a side note, it also teaches sharing and responsibility and can also teach the importance of scheduling for the ones with certain items or pokemon only available at certain days of the week or time.

Newer, I don't want my kids to not know what any other kids are talking about in games. Besides, as the old saying goes our current new games are our future's old games.

>>1165114
>kids who play video games in moderation, ie under an hour a day
That would be kids who don't play at all.

>>1165114
You're raising casuals.

>>1152671
Why not a bit of both? How's this list of games for kids to start with?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Gaming_Monthly#Gold.2FSilver.2FPlatinum_Awards

>1998 – Metal Gear Solid (PlayStation)
>1998 – The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Nintendo 64)
>1999 – Soulcalibur (Dreamcast)
>1999 – Gran Turismo 2 (PlayStation)
>2000 – The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo 64)
>2000 – Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (PlayStation, Dreamcast)
>2001 – Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PlayStation 2)
>2001 – Halo: Combat Evolved (Xbox)
>2002 – Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PlayStation 2)
>2002 – Metroid Prime (GameCube)
>2004 – Halo 2 (Xbox)
>2004 – Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PlayStation 2)
>2006 – The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii)
>2007 – BioShock (Xbox 360)
>2008 – Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix (PlayStation Network, Xbox Live Arcade)
>2008 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii)
>2013 - Bioshock Infinite (Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PC)

M rated games I'll have to supervise.

>>1168227
>Bioshock Infinite
Oh come on.

>>1156887
>Starvation diets are as stupid as doing karate

>>1152671
>enforcing your own tastes onto your children
ell oh ell

>>1168287
>wondering what games are most useful to introduce a child to the medium
>enforcing your own tastes
Those a two different things, underageb&.

>>1168227
Wow this list is fucking horrible.

>>1168287
>exposing to a medium = forcing tastes
Gee whiz, I sure am glad my parents never showed me any movies, shows, or books as a child.

>>1168227
Why?

>>1168291
I don't see a single game on that list that's outright bad.

>>1168297
Not bad, but not the best. For example, why have them play SSF2THDR when they could play something better like 3rd Strike instead?

>>1168301
Because SF2 is better than 3S

>>1168327

I saw Bioshock Infinite. I stand by what I said.

>>1168297
Bioshock Infinite.

>>1168328
It's outright bad.

>>1168336

Action 52 is outright bad. Bioshock Infinite is not.

>>1168341
They're both outright bad.

>>1168341
Compared to 1 and 2, it's bad.

>>1168345
They're not equally bad, but they're both outright bad.

>>1168342
They aren't even in the same league, but whatever.

>>1168347
"Bad in comparison" is not "bad period".

Mega Man 1 is bad compared to 2 or 3. That doesn't mean Mega Man 1 is bad.

>>1168351
>Bubsy 3D is not.

I didn't know Ulilillia posted on /vr/.

>>1168341
Action 52 is outright bad. Bubsy 3D is not.

>>1168350
>Mega Man 1 is bad compared to 2 or 3
No it's not.

>>1168354

>implying

Only 6 robot masters, no Rush/Items, worse stage design.

>>1168357
So? It still isn't bad in comparison.

>>1168358

Yes it is. The words "in comparison" are key here.

>>1168351
You're right. Only true intellectuals can comprehend the masterpiece known as Bubsy 3D.

>>1168359
No it ain't.

>>1168359
You're the one comparing Bioshock Infinite to Action 52.

>>1168390

And this has what to do with my post? I'm not the one pretending "in comparison" has nothing to do with the argument.

I'm going to play chess and scrabble and monopoly and parcheesi with my kids. They'll play whatever fighting games I play. They'll play racing games because I think it teaches enough of the basics to kids as far as hand eye coordination goes. My family will end up buying them sidescrolling games because that's what they identify as a child appropriate game. I suspect we'll play any kind of coop that I can interest the kids in. Honestly though, I'm going to regulate games for my kids because I'm addicted and it's made life difficult.

>>1168445
and to actually answer OP's question, I won't actively promote retro, but i suspect my game taste will rub off on my kids like my parents' music taste rubbed off on me

>>1168445
>I'm addicted
No you're not, pussy.

>>1160463
TBH I'd be like
>no son you can't get a console until you can outrun me. I'm more than twice your age you fatass.
>no son you can't get a smartphone until you can do more push-ups and pull-ups than me.
>no son you can't get a car until you're in college.

>>1156469
Interestingly enough that statement is the same for addicts and non addicts alike.
Useful.

I will have them play older games because that's what I usually play. If I wanted to give them a cinematic experience I would just watch Robocop with them.

Man I wish my dad didn't fall asleep while watching Robocop these days.

>>1152671
The funny thing about this post is that, for some of us, current modern games will be retro by the time kids are actually a consideration.

>>1152671
I would let them play their modern games with their friends when they turn like 7, but the main source of gaming before that will be retro games.

>>1152678
Lets hope your sperm aren't fuckups.

I think the dad's job is to be the old fart who suffocates kids with old stuff that they don't appreciate, so they hang out with their hip friends and listen to hip music.
Then when they get out of the teenage years and start having a new perspective on things they realize that what dad liked is pretty cool after all and start turning into old farts themselves.

>>1168328
Bioshock Infinite is a terrible game, even without comparing it to the first ones. And if you actually compare it to the first one, it's absolutely disgusting. Some people say that Bioshock was a disappointment as the spiritual sequel to SS2, but Infite took away everything that made those games great (eg. STEALTH, hacking, unique weapons, ammo systems, nonlinear maps, dark atmosphere) and filled the rest with terrible modern shooter mechanics (like shield regeneration, two-weapon limitation, annoying melee takedowns and extremely linear levels) and an annoying AI sidekick.

>>1168606
>bioshock
>stealth
What?

>people hating games in a game board

I'd start my kid on a 64 or PSX.
Maybe Pokemon or some shit like that.
Get him into sports maybe, I was never a fan but if he likes it then great.

>>1168628
You could walk up to / past enemies, do stealth crits, use the chameleon tonic (which made you invisible after staying still for a small while) and enemies went into cautious mode if they caught a glimpse of you or heard noises. I don't know if it had shadow-based stealth like in Thief, but otherwise sneaking was a very relevant game mechanic (and an advantageous tactic).

If you did ANYTHING in Infinite, an alarm would go off, all doors would shut down, all enemies in the area would suddenly get locked on your ass and the only way to continue was to kill every single one of them.

>>1168357
Less content does not mean worse. You can have more content than your predecessor and still be less good if the quality of your content is less.

>>1168914
>Less content does not mean worse.

It does when the extra content that MM2 has is all good.

>>1168917
Oh, I'm not saying I don't prefer MM2 to MM1, I'm just saying that his argument is flawed, and the number of Robot Masters isn't proportional to how good a game is. Hell, MM3 let you fight clones of the MM2 bosses in the Doc Robot stages but MM2 is still better than MM3 because the Doc Robot stages a shit.

>>1168918

Fair enough.

I think the Doc Robots stages needed a bit more time in the work room. You can't even jump over Doc Robots' leaf shields. That's some bullshit.

Older

Sega Genesis.

>>1168575
What will retro games of today be called?

As a matter of fact, my 2 year-old nephew is playing Duck Hunt as I type. I expect my eventual son will do the same.

>>1171003
Will yesterday still be in the past when it's becomes the day before yesterday?