/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1110348

Is this classic enough for you?

RE2 > Survivor > 1 > 3 > CV

How's the Saturn version of the first game? I was thinking about downloading it.

>>1110681
>Survivor

Good joke. Everybody laugh.

>>1110728

The biggest difference made to the Saturn version is that all 3D objects were remodelled and retextured. They're generally more detailed, but because of this are rendered at a slightly lower resolution than the PlayStation version, so which one looks "best" is really a matter of taste. Definitely worth checking out for fans of classic RE though, and you get an exclusive Battle Mode as well.

>>1110728
Aside from what the guy above said, on hard mode, there's a second tyrant you have to fight in the labs and the hunters are reskinned and called Ticks.

Plus the battlegame has a golden tyrant.

>>1110728
The 2D backgrounds look better but the 3D looks blockier.

Some people claim there is better sound quality as well but I don't remember for sure.

There is no autoaim (like in the original PS1 release but unlike in any other re-releases; except maybe PC i don't remember).

IIRC the loading times in between each camera angle seemed to be slightly longer than on PSX, but then again, I can't remmeber for sure.

>>1110878
The re-skinned Hunters only appear in the 2nd waves (in the underground cave). There is also re-skinned Lab Creatures but you only see them briefly (about 5-6 of them) after fighting the Tyrant(s) down in the lab.

There is also 2 exclusive costumes one of which is my favourite (pic related, Chris').

The battle mode is absolutely fantastic. A true test of skill and high replay value for scoring. The only problem is that, if you're playing the PAL version, due to 50hz, the time limit is very short.

It's personally my favourite version of RE1.

I respect peoples opinions but for me RE 1-3 is best on PS1. Feels more polished somehow.

And in the long run, who cares for costumes or a extra battlemode?

>>1110893
>I respect peoples opinions but for me RE 1-3 is best on PS1. Feels more polished somehow.

That's ridiculous. RE2 and 3 are best on PC :
- Best quality of graphics (both2D and 3D), especially in the Sourcenext dvd PC re-releases
- Best sound quality
- NO loading times between camera angles. (The split second loading times between each camera angle hinders gameplay a lot on console) + the fact that you can skip doors make gameplay MUCH smoother
- you can chose to play with any pad you want
- for RE2, a FANTASTIC exclusive Hard Mode exclusive to the PC and Dreamcast versions. I can go into details as how it's fantastic,but it's the best difficulty mode in any RE. Just an example: zombies take a random number of bullets to die from 1 to 35, which leads to fantastic situations.
- you have at the same time the original western release but ALSO the "arrange" mode which is the original Jap release in which a lot item+health placement differ quite a lot
- access to mods, some of which for RE2 are quality mods which change the way you go through RE2 radically

Dreamcast versions get a notable mention as they are similar but they're still worse than the PC version (can't skip doors; have to stick to playing with the Dreamcast pad even though RE games play much better with a good d-pad, no access to mods)

For RE1 though, there is no best version, it's a matter of taste.

>>1110893

People who like variety.

>>1110893
also,
>who cares for costumes or a extra battlemode?

Costumes aren't much but you'd know the battle mode mattered if you played it. But anyway like I said in my previous post there is MUCH more than that regarding version differences.

>>1110750
Survivor is a good game. It has the classic b-movie feel of 1 and 2 that was lost with 3 onward. It also has great atmosphere and high replay value due to all the different paths and to how enemy changes during replays.

People who laugh on Survivor usually haven't played it. It's like HVGN's video "is it really that bad?!" : if you assume a game is bad before playing it just because lot's of people say so, and play it with the intention of only mocking it and nitpicking on its negative points, then of course you won't enjoy it.

>>1110896
What you dont seem to grasp is that there are people that not looking for the "best graphics" or "skip door animations" and so on. For me the slow gameplay and the door/ladder animations is a part of the RE experiance.

Why bother playing any game at all if you just fast-forward it by skipping things?

For me, stuff like the door animations, the slow paced gameplay is a part of the build up. Also, I prefer the somewhat blurry low res graphics, it adds to the imagination.

The original Resident Evil is still my all time favorite game. I remember being 11 years old in an Electronics Botique store in 1996 when it just came out. They had a psx display and it was running the game. I vividly remember picking up that gray winged controller and experiencing my first taste of survival horror. Considering I had just come from playing snes, I was so blown away. Till this day I fondly remember that moment. A week later my parents bought me a Playstation 1 and Resident Evil.

>>1110904
Well, even in this case, the fact that the PSX/Saturn version have loading times between camera angles which hinder gameplay and which you there isn't in the original PC releases, is still a good reason alone to play the PC version.

Also, skipping doors is not the same thing as fastforwarding or skipping gamepaly. When you'll have played every RE game dozens and dozens of time, or when your play time is short and precious, you'll enjoy skipping door animations. In one "normal" playthrough or RE1 or 2 you can spend 20-25mins just waiting watching the same door animations over and over again. I don't call that fun.

>>1110949
My first experience with Resident Evil was with the Saturn version of 1. When I was 11, a friend of my brother landed the console and the game to me. I spent all summertime playing it. It was the first time I experience a game that could make me feel something intense other than cheer fun.

Mind you, the game was in English, not my native tongue, so that game taught me the basis of english. I remember using a dictionnary for a lot of things notably the painting puzzle! That was a lot of dedication for a single game and that only made the experience tougher for me but also more rewarding. Also, the cheeseness of the dialogues didn't appear to me at all since I was 11 with no experience in the english language back then, and actually the slow pace of the dialogue and the clear pronounciation helped me a lot.
I remember shedding a tear when I eventually beat it with a lot of hard work... I'm glad I didn't get stuck with the two Doom Books because that friend showed me the trick about them beforehand.

Resident Evil 1.5 actually isn't as bad as Kamiya says. Okay, it's not as cinematic or thrilling as Resident Evil 2, but boy did they nail the atmosphere. It's worth playing if you're a fan of classic RE for sure!

>>1110896
My issue with the PC release is that you can't increase the resolution. That bugs the heck out of me.

>>1111116

It's buggy as hell at the moment.

>That month old Re2 thread asking for a "working N64 rom" died
>That other Re2 thread died

I am sad.

>>1110967
>NESfag

Please remove your name.

>>1111593
NESfag has been around for years, buddy.

>>1111620
>NESfag has been around for years, buddy.

So has Manly Tears. Please kindly remove your attention seeking name.

>>1111660
LoL

>>1111593
Good luck with your journey.

just play REmake...

On a serious note, I started the RE franchise with REmake, CV, and RE0.

Will the "dated" look if RE2 and RE3 be a distraction?

>>1111660
I'm a tripfag, is that better or worse?

>>1111723
Nah, the graphics don't actually look that bad. The controls are a mess (and always are in that engine unless you play Dino Crisis) but you'll get used to them.

My personal favourite version of resident evil 1

>>1110949

Nice man. Resident Evil was my first PS1 game too. Coming from the SNES, it scared the complete shit out of me and I only finished it the first time because I used a GameShark to get the rocket launcher with infinite ammo.

>>1111315

Yeah, but just wait, it will be spectacular :-)

>>1111856
I heard that one 5 years ago, m8

>>1111593
NESfag is a pillar of this community. Who really cares if he posts with a name anyway?

>>1111894
Today, we are all NESfag.

>>1111894

I agree. He seems like a nice enough dude and his posts are usually pretty informative.

>>1111897
No, I AM NESfag!

>>1111748
The DS version is great. But imo, it's not comparable with the other versions because it's a different experience from original game : enhanced controls, new 3D models for characters and enemies (which look fantastic), new zombie ai. it plays completely differently from the other versions that's why it's not the classic original experience at all.

This being said, it's a great port. Gameplay is so smooth. What I love about it is that it's the only verison in which you can skip both doors and cutscenes, so you can beat the game in like 35mins. Also, I do have the game on DS, but I like more is play it emulated so that I can use a PS2 pad, that plays even better imo. I've sadly never played the bonus multiplayer modes though but they seem good.

>>1112938
3DS circle pad works great with ResiDS tho i had no issues with the D-Pad on the DSLite.

Multiplayer mode was great fun. Shame they never had the full single player campaign as a coop mode. chris / Rebecca and jill / barry. that would've been amazing. more zombies / harder to kill ofc.

>>1112989
I can't play RE games with joysticks. A good d-pad is so much better for RE games, it feels much more precise and all the precision you need to dodge enemies. Recently I've been replaying REmake and RE0 with a PS2 pad using a GCpad to PS2pad adaptor and that made me realize how great and smooth the controls really are in REmake. Playing with a PS2 pad is so much better, it was even better than playing the Wii versions with a classic pad.

>>1113004
>PS2 pad is so much better
Personally hate the PS2 controller. D-pad on the PS2 controller is ass, sony have never made good D-Pads. Mind the Gamecube's D-pad was shit too.

>was even better than playing the Wii versions with a classic pad.
I'll try this out later.

>>1113035
personally I consider the PS2 pad the best pad for everything, except N64 games. I use it for everything I can. It's getting that adaptor which lets me use it for GC games that made want to replay REmake and 0, just because I could use the PS2 pad.

>I'll try this out later.
It's good but not worth paying 30€ for the Wii port if you already own the original game. There is barely any changes.

>>1113040
i have 0 and REmake for the GC, I have the Archives versions on my harddrive

>>1111111

I didn't know that there still people who liked the old RE formula. The old resident evil games are only good for it's stories but the gameplay and controls? nah, it sucked horribly 2/10. Finally 4 came out. Now if they would just remake the shitty first games into RE4 style. And I don't want to hear things like I haven't played the first games. I played 2 first then 1 3 and CV. Nothing beats Resident Evil 4 on pro mode with knife only.

>>1113083
Shut up corpsefucker. The controls in RE 1-3 is not bad at all. It fit the style of the game perfect.

>>1113083
>it sucked horribly 2/10
For you maybe
>Finally 4 came out
And the resident evil series went to shit afterwards.

>>1113086
It Capcom/Sony wasn't retarded, yes it will be perfect. But instead! Used the most retarded movement ever. Your character moves like a fucking tank. If the game's movement wasn't like that then I could finish the game with one hands only.

>>1113092
>omg I have to press forward to go forward, right to right and left to go left, i can't figure it out it doesn't make sense most retarded control scheme ever !!!!

>>1113090
5 and 6 kinda sucked but not 4. Throwing aside the nostalgia, imo 4 is the best of them all. Just please.. Capcom should remake 1-3 in shoulder view style.

>>1113092
>If the game's movement wasn't like that then I could finish the game with one hands only.
What? Why is this even in your argument.

>>1113095
5 is basically 4 in HD

4 was a terrible resident evil and made the series what it is today.
>Capcom should remake 1-3 in shoulder view style.
No how about they make NEW GAMES not milking the good games for all its worth.
People like you have awful logic.

>>1113094
That's it, to go left, you have to fucking press right/left until you face in that direction and press up, instead of just pressing left and your characters go left. Capcom is so retarded back then... Guess the first 3 games would be the easiest game ever if they wouldn't have those shitty movement.

>>1113096
My mistake... I can finish the game with no hands at all. The only thing keeping these game hard was the controls. Nothing special.

Stop replying to bait, dumbasses.

>>1113095
> Capcom should remake 1-3 in shoulder view style.

I keep hearing that but it always comes from stupid people who can't think straight. Shoulder view style in 1,2,3 wouldn't work at all considering how narrow and small the corridors and rooms are; not to mention how they change direction in odd angle and shape constantly. You wouldn't be able to see more with should view.
and gameplay wise, the games would be too easy. You'd also need to change the AI by making monsters faster, stronger, or give them another range of attacks which, for the kidn of monsters RE1,2,3 have, wouldn't make sense at all. (notice how enemies in 4 and onwards throw stuff at you etc).

I'm not saying it's not possible to have a survival horror with this type of camera. Silent Hill: Homecoming did it, and it did it perfectly. But it simply wouldn't work with RE1,2,3. THe level design needs more space and the enemies have to be completely different. One design element changed, and you need to change the whole game.

Speaking of Homecoming... So everybody wants RE1,2,3 with more modern controls while still being survival horror.... Well, that's what Homecoming did and it did it really well. Guess what happened.... It became a very misunderstood game, people calling it a "fighting" game and claiming it became action oriented just because of the camera angle. That's ridiculous considering Homecoming is the most survival of any Silent Hill...
Give something to people and they say they'll want something else. Give that something else and they won't understand it and ditch it without thinking.

>>1113102
The controls are not hard tho.

Only you seem to have an issue with them here.

>>1113098
>4 was a terrible resident evil and made the series what it is today.

To you nostalgiafags only who can't move on. Giant Dr. Salvador is even more terrifying than Nemesis. But Nemesis is cooler.

>>1113107
>small corridors

They could just redo the whole places you know like expand the corridors and stuff.

>>1113097
So basically, instead of having carachter centric controls, you want camera centric controls... camera centric controls in a game where camera angles change every 2 seconds!

Do you even realize how DUMB that is?! Here is what would happen with camera centric controls in RE1 :
>You go towards the left direction, avoiding a zombie on the way.
>Just after that, the camera changes so left becomes backwards; so the character instantly go backwards even though you wanted to keep going in the same direction and you couldn't predict how the next camera angle was
>so you end up getting hit by the zombie you just avoided perfectly because of stupid camera centric controls

Before complaining about game design and claiming that you hold the smart solution to its "flaws", maybe you should think a little with your small brain. Your solution would completely ruin the game, but, if you really want camera centric controls, the N64 version of RE2 has the option to do that and it's absolutely awful. Go try it.

Another solution is a mix between camera centric controls and character centric controls, like some of the Project Zero games did; but that only appeared YEARS after RE games.

>>1113105
I don't find it hard. You'll get used to it. What I'm saying is that it FUCKING SUCKS. And without that shitty fucking movement, RE1-3 would be the easiest survival game ever. Look at Silent Hill... They did an amazing job by not using the shitty tank-like movement Capcom likes.

>>1113110
So you want to, not only change the type of camera, but also change the whole layout of the entire game.

You're a moron. What you want is play RE4 again and again. If that's what you want, then play RE4,5, Revelations, that 3DS mini game; as well as the dozens of rip-offs RE4 spawned; and stop saying that games of other genres should become like your "Holy RE4 Grail" and let other people enjoy those other type of games;

>>1113125
Stop being so butthurt. They wouldn't make RE game similar to 1-3 because it was a big mistake, I bet you all wouldn't like it if the game has a horrible storyline. Resident Evil 4 both storyline(excluding Leon's cheesy one liners) and gameplay.

RE1-3 in modern RE is not impossible you moron. What couldn't Capcom do?

>>1113090
U sir, are correct.

>>1113127
Actually story in RE games is the worst part. It's awful in 0 yet I still like the game for gameplay.

and yes, as it is, "modern" RE style in old games is impossible unless you change the entire game.

Your problem is that you're unable to get used to a simple type of controls that was created in 1992 (more than 20 years ago) and which took me 5 mins to get used it when I was 11.

God, high res pre-rendered games look so fucking bad.

>>1113138
right

>>1113138
PS1 games yes.

Highres Pre-rendered REmake looks fucking glorious

>>1113134
>RE style in old games is impossible unless you change the entire game.

Who said they couldn't change the entire game? I mean how to places look. It's a completely remake, are you expecting for it to be entirely the same? The angles, the width, the length of the walls etc, would be the freakin same? Oh shit.

And I will say it again. I got used to it as soon as I played the game. and it even took me as soon as I grabbed the controller. What I was saying is that the control sucked so bad.

>>1113138
>>1113145
OP's picture look blurry because it's high scalled emulation probably using epsxe.

RE1 in higher resolution in the PC version if you have the appropriate video card looks great. RE2 and 3 in the Sourcenext dvd re-release look great as well.

>>1113147
like I said you want to play more RE4 style stuff. Then go play those. There are tons around. And stop saying everything should be like RE4

>>1113147
>Who said they couldn't change the entire game?
Are you stupid?

>>1113152
It should be! RE4 is fucking perfect, asshole. And I think has more challenge that the first games.

>>1113157
Confirmed for troll confirmed.

>>1113167
I fucking challenge anyone of you to beat RE4 on pro mode using a knife and flash grenades only. come on!

>>1113170
Way to change topic man.

Look, I couldnt care less for your knife skills in RE4. What was discussed was your retarded ideas of changing control layouts and what not.

Just realize that you have not thought this through.

Whats hilarious is Resident Evil 4 also has tank controls.

Like in Classic resi you can turn while moving, but moving forward and backward are still noticeably separate from moving left and right.

The only difference is resi4 has over the shoulder.

>>1113196
over the shoulder camera*

>>1113134
I actually love the story in RE1-3, especially the Mercenaries sub-plot, guess I must be the only one

>>1113602
Could never get in to all those extra games. I loved the original games tho, but after completing each one i'm just "full" of RE for awhile. If that makes sense.

Fixed camera and tank controls fit the atmosphere. Also, it's totally worth having beautiful pre-rendered backgrounds. Once Resident Evil 1.5 is finished, I think a lot of you will put your hatred of the old formula aside and enjoy a decent classic Resident Evil game. In fact, if the Facebook page of "Team IGAS" gets four more "likes", we'll get new material released...

>>1113720
>if the Facebook page of "Team IGAS" gets four more "likes", we'll get new material released...
i don't even.

just wow

>>1113752
>>1113752

Viral marketing on 4chan is an excellent tactic, it will ensure that at least some percentage of the lurkers will be lured. Hey, didn't we have a name for Microsoft employees who would come into XBONE threads to promote the console and build hype?

>>1113720

>if the Facebook page of "Team IGAS" gets four more "likes", we'll get new material released...

>>1113789
faggots?

>>1113720
> Fixed camera and tank controls fit the atmosphere.
Shame that they fuck with the gameplay, especially during the boss fights.

>>1113795

I wonder why they do that? Is there any money in facebook 'likes'?

I'm not into this social network stuff, so I honestly don't know.

>>1113805

It's just a tradition, no monetary reason (IGAS is strictly non-profit, which is why their RE game isn't like CoD).

>>1111301
You can change the resolution of RE3. I haven't found a way to do it in RE2 yet though.

>>1114153
One of the function keys does it in RE2 PC. Probably F4-F6.

Dunno about sourcenext though.

>>1110896
RE3 is the best on Gamecube only because it has the best looking character models and they're not all wavy and jittery.

>>1115434
not really, they look better on dreamcast and pc. Plus, playing with the GC pad joystick is quite bad, RE games are much better using a good d pad.

>>1113805
There's no money in it exactly but the stuff you liked appears on all your friends pages so it's basically free advertising

>>1113813
Cut that shit out man. We all know what you want. You want free advertising, thats what you want.

I'm not buying it.

>>1115468
What?

>>1115470
Nothing, just a troll using my name because he has nothing better to do than to try to give a bad reputation on a namefag on 4chan just because he disagrees on my opinion on one game.

>>1115513
I'm the real NESfag. Don't listen to that guy. He has been pestering /vr/ all day.

He is a troll.

I GOT A SHOTGUN

>>1115550
Too bad you'll be a sandwich!

>>1115441
It's a fact that the GC version has the smoothest models. All other versions, even the SourceNext one, have the wavy/jittery problem.

so which outfit should I wear?

>>1115606
Purple tank top for sure.
>Dem armpits

>>1115628
done, also i'm trying to find all the hidden things and so far its proving really fun

>>1115645
Was that one from Wesker's desk?

>>1115651
oh my!

>>1115653
Muh dick. Too bad that outfit wasn't in RE0.

>>1115653
Wesker knows what's good.

>>1115653

Is that a dude?

>>1115653
so i found what i thought was more sexy pix but it was just this arm in a tank, what a bummer.

is there any other good secrets to be found?

>>1115441
Wrong. Gamecube was the only version with proper Z-buffering.

>>1115606
Leon could easily have combined them.

Anybody ever read the Resident Evil comics and know if they are any good?

i'm the most interested in this (kinda rare) promo RE1 comic

>>1111111
just wanted to see what the post was

>>1110901
I agree I loved Survivor although I wouldn't ever consider playing it if not for the fact that you use the gun

I had trouble finding the Saturn version of RE1 for a "reasonable price" for a while.

Two years ago at a convention I found Biohazard on Saturn (japanese version of RE1 for the unknowing). I figured it couldn't be THAT difficult to play without knowing japanese, so I picked it up for $25.

it wasn't any more difficult to play in Japanese than it was in English. There WAS Auto-aiming, but I assume that was a japanese-only thing. The only thing I needed to go to youtube for was the Picture puzzle in the gallery, since I couldn't actually read what the picture I was looking at was.

>>1116980
>>1110901
Survivor question.

The US version of Survivor doesn't work with lightguns, I get that.

The Japanese and PAL versions do.

But didn't light guns back then, like Namco's Guncon, not actually have Dpads? how were you supposed to play Survivor without moving?

>>1117025
Any Jap version of Resident Evil is notably easier than the Western releases. Didn't know about auto aim though

>>1117034
Pretty sure they had a dpad?

>>1117049
PS1 guncons did not have Dpads

at the very least, I know Namcon's Guncon1 and Innovation's Dual Gun Con did no.

>tfw just want a version of RE2/3 with good resolution, no loading times and random item/enemy placement

>>1117049
PS1 guncons did not have Dpads

at the very least, I know Namcon's Guncon1 and Innovation's Dual Gun Con did not.

>>1117060
>>tfw just want a version of RE2/3 with good resolution, no loading times

PC Ports nigga. You can skip door loading animations or watch them. And they come in 480p, which is x2 of the ps1 resolution. Sadly, I am pretty sure Capcom just outright lost the original backgrounds to the game, so this is the highest we'll ever get.

>>1117060
this >>1117706

for random item placement you can always play arrange mode which is the jap version where non key item palcement is different.
You can also play the N64 version of RE2 with item randomizer but then you can't skip stuff and also shit graphics.
For RE2 there is also some mods which change quite a lot of stuff, most notably Requiem Of Spies, but there is also two others i've played i can't recall the name which change item placement. Look it up on google there is some RE modding forum i can't remember the name of

I wish we'd get the item randomizer mod of RE2 in another version though. I could never get RE2 to work properly in emulation, it would be full of glitches except once but then it crashed in the lab at the end... and there is no way i'm buying a N64 just for that especialyl because i live in PAL territory so i'd have to import it from the US... Well, maybe one day i'll just do that.

Iv'e heard what all of you shitheads have to say, but still, RE 1-3 is the best, the classics with fixed angles, tank controls, back to basic gameplay.

I have played all 6 installments but the last three is bland. BLANNNND. The only one I will somehow recognize is nr 4, that one was pretty cool aside for that faggot merchant, but the story and gameplay was decent.

With that said, the RE I will always come back to is nr uno and dos!

Also NESfag IS a fag. For real. He is.

>>1117768
what about CV faggot?

>>1117782
You mean Veronica? Yeah sorry, that one was awesome to. Forgot that one. Fuck now you depressed me. I miss my Dreamcast. =(

Ha ha ha well put. NESfag is a retard who like to be the know it all all the time.

>>1117929
>NESfag is a retard who like to be the know it all all the time.
>Bad grammar
>Calling others a retard
top of the lel's

Have done a technical comparison of all RE3 games using emulators.

If you want to play RE3 on the PC:

GC>PC>PSX>DC

You should be able to compare when opening the pics in different tabs.

Please let me know if you have anything to add.

Starting with PSX

>>1118156
DC

>>1118161
PC

>>1118172
GC

You know, replaying old school RE, I find that I do still love them, but I absolute cannot disagree with the people that say fighting the camera angles is complete bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit in every sense of the term.

>>1118178
Especially in RE 2 Scenario B in that platform with monitors where Mr. X shows up.

>>1118156
Thank you for the comparisons. Didn't realize how much better the GC version looked compared to the other versions. Now I really want to play it, but I wonder if I should buy it or just emulate.

>>1118156
>using emulators

Yeah, it shows.

Play it on the actual console with a good crt and it will look much nicer. Those ugly sharp backgrounds would ruin it for me.

>>1116812
Believe it or not, OP, but I actually own that comic, along with a small English novella that's a prequel to the game.
The comic has laughably bad art, the Umbrella logo doesn't even look right.
It's cool to have as a collector's item, but not really worth tracking down unless you wanna built the ultimate RE shrine

>>1118156
>"Hey guys, I took a 640x480 or whatever game and blew it up to 1080 and guess what, it looks like shit! Who would have thought!!"

>>1115572
"Zip, zam, zoom, I am your doom!" said the Tyrant. "Oh yeah, well now you go boom." said Jill, before escaping the mansion that was almost her tomb.

>>1118175
Now if you could also try the Sourcenext PC version?

Also anybody else notice how huges parts of the videos got cut in the GC version up and down? What the fuck is the deal with that?

And I don't find the GC verison to be that particulary better looking than the PC version. I'm sorry but the pros of it aren't worth its cons compared to the PC version (especailly how the PC version is the smoothest with no input lag)

>>1118829
and I will add that having to play with the joystick of the GC pad is the biggest of all cons for me. Since I got a GC to PS2 pad adaptor, REmake and RE0 have become so much more smoother! I had never realized they played that smooth, even with the Wii Classic pad. But that sort of adaptor isn't something everybody has (and not everybody can emulate the gamecube either).

Anyway - has ANYBODY here ever played the randominzer mode of RE2 and can share some experience? Has anybody ever been able to unlock it with emulation (and if so, using what emulator and plugins?) ? Cause that was mission impossible to me. The only time I got to work almost perfectly it crashed at the end of the game so I couldn't beat it (and there is no cheat nor saves online with the item randomizer mode unlocked).

>>1118261
GC version is definitely the best version in terms of graphics. If you buy it you won't have sound emulating issues (either an audio lag or some lapses + cracking noises).

But you would have to play with the GC-controller. :(

>>1118274
yeah, well, that's true.

>>1118295
Are you stupid? Also there a lot of games that do look pretty nice with upscaled resolution...

>>1118829
PC-version was the sourcenext-version. Except for the FMVs the sourcenext version is identically to the original pc release.

>What the fuck is the deal with that?
Every version got more or less shitty FMVs, except the sourcenext pc version.

>And I don't find the GC verison to be that particulary better looking than the PC version.
But it really is, thanks to no jitter. You should see it in motion.

>>1118835
>GC to PS2 pad adaptor
shit, I need to get one of those.

>>1118861

>>1118861
>PC-version was the sourcenext-version. Except for the FMVs the sourcenext version is identically to the original pc release.

Well I don't think so. Although the differences between the original PC release and the Sourcenext re-releases are more obvious for RE2, there is still differences for 3. The graphics (both 2D backgrounds and 3D models) look MUCH better in the sourcenext version than in the original PC release. Perhaps you should try playing it with a higher resolution.

Also, I was expecting your PC screenshots to be from the original PC version and not Sourcenext because you say there is no loading item between camera angle chanegs. For me, there is no loading time at all during camera angle changes for the original PC release, but there IS a split second loading time for the Sourcenext version for some reasons.

Also, it is worth noting that the Sourcenext version is Jap only and that Jap versions of RE games are all a LOT easier than the western releases. So, if you want the real experience, I actually recommend playing the original PC release rather than the Sourcenext version, RE3 is already very easy as it is there is no need to make it even easier! (I'll always be saddened by the lack of real hard for RE3, we got it for the PC and Dreamcst versions of 2 but not for 3...)
As a comparaison point, I was able to beat the sourcenext version of RE3 knife only, thing which would have been a LOT harder for the western release and I probably wouldn't have been able to put it off.

>>1118861
>shit, I need to get one of those.

I got mine for 1 buck at a flea market. I got lucky, they seem pretty rare, they go for 20 bucks on ebay and not the same brand... The brand I have is called Blaze and I recommend it, there is no input lag at all.

However if you want to play with a d-pad, you have other solutions : you can use adaptors which let you use SNES pads for GC; or you can beat that Hori "fake snes pad" for Gamecube: or for REmake and RE0 you could play the Wii re-release and use a classic pad. However, I've tried classic pad,and I thought it was much better with a PS2 pad.

>>1118867
>The graphics (both 2D backgrounds and 3D models) look MUCH better in the sourcenext version
I have Resident.Evil.3.Nemesis-FLT, which was released 2000 and the sourcenext version.

Graphics are really 1:1 identical. Except for 3 files, even all the gameplay-files are identical (checked with CRC).

Interestingly, if you open the .dat-files with an editor, you can see the names of the containing files. I googled one of the filenames and found an P2P-release of RE3 where all the files aren't stored in .dat-files. It's even seeding. Downloading right now.

>>1118873
Thanks, but it seems these things are not available in europe. I only found one converter for 11$ in the USA. :/

>>1118947
There are even some jpegs/wavs in it.

>>1118947
Interesting. This is the version I have, american version, released in 2000 as well. For some reasons I have have the CD+Booklet twice, one of which is sealed... Is it the same version?
The graphics are slightly worse than the sourcenext version although it's only noticeable at high resolution and with a proper screen.

Do you have a link to that torrent? I'd be interested. I recall having already downloaded it though.
Sadly RE3 is very hard to mod comared to RE2 which is why it doesn't have mods. It comes from the fact that a lot of events are semi-random or are decided depending on actions and choices you make, so if you try to mod it and change one thing it can break it all and make the game crash. Once somebdy was making a full mod for it though which looked promising, but just like most other big scale mods (Dark Biohazard for RE2...) it diseappeared of the internet with no explanation given.

>>1118960
2nd picture of the box. I miss old PC boxes.

>>1118861
Also you can't say that the GC version is the best looking when you're playing it using the Dolphin emulator. It wouldn't look like that at all on an actual Gamecube.

>>1118861
Also you can't say that the GC version is the best looking when you're playing it using the Dolphin emulator. It wouldn't look like that at all on an actual Gamecube.

Your "technical" comparaison doesn't really mean anything since it uses emulation. Saying the GC version looks the best, because you're using the Dolphin emulor, is very biased really. You remind me of that stuck up guy claiming the N64 version of RE2 had the best sound quality because it had "surround audio!!!" (regardless of how awful sound is in general on N64...)

Also, I checked, the Sourcenext versions can go at much higher resolution than the original PC releases.

>>1118979
...
All I'm saying is, that IF you want to play it on the PC, the GC version is the best looking one. I already wrote that in my first post. I don't know why you think I or anyone else would assume that emulation equals original... lol.

Though, you can still say that the GC version is the best looking, since it got no jitter, regardless of it emulated or not.

>Also, I checked, the Sourcenext versions can go at much higher resolution than the original PC releases.
Are you trolling?
Also you can set the resolution to whatever you want in the .ini

>>1118991
Sorry I misunderstood what you meant. But i still say that "no jitter" alone isn't worth palying the GC version of all the pros of the PC versions

and RE2 pc is very limited in terms of resolution if not playing the sourcenext version

RE3 is so full of details everywhere. Anybody noticed this poster on the left has "capcom" in the description?

Also in the previous alley (first alley of the game) there is a bike with the STARS logo on it. There a sheet of paper with something written no it near it but it's too hard to make out

>>1117060
>>tfw just want a version of RE2/3 with good resolution with no jittery polygons... in english

Do you see how part of this red thing against the wall is actually a model and not part of the background? Capcom had probably planned a puzzle here which got scrapped. IIRC That mod I mentionned earlier for RE3 that got cancelled made use of taht.

>>1119026
Do you mean this? ;)

>>1119021
;)

>>1119053
that looks great.. how?

>>1119053
you can actually mod the pc version with the un-archived files quiet nicely. You can use tools from the psx sdk for the files that are not jpegs/wavs

>>1119058
Just the textures from the pc version upscaled to 1280x960. As you can see, just some parts are pixelated and some look the same. I think there is some kind of pixelating-filter or something to make the scenes look more spacial.

pic realted

>>1119053
>>1119059
>>1119050
can you share the torrent please?

>>1119063
nice

>>1119064
sure

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:57DB537E5E3D14829A706BB0EE532C219F550639

Also I found this website here about re modding. There is a guy who has written a tool to unpack the .dat files. With that it should be very easy to make a fully english "sourcenext" version, ie change the FMVs and correct the AR for them.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_1_2_3/index.php?showtopic=402

>>1110904
Wow.

>>1111116
OK this was the first I've heard and I've just checked it out. Where can I download RE1.5?

>>1119172
it's not finished yet

>>1119185
Ah, yeah. I've seen some links to it unfinished but I think I'll skip them. I've just found the guys on Facebook, looking forward to it.

I hope I can get my Dad to play it, I fear he's grown to accustomed to the new games...

So I'm replaying RE3 (original PC version, the best) as we speak while, for once, watching all the cutscenes, videos, and reading all the notes. Been a while since I did that since I usually just play it for the gameplay and skip everything.

Gameplay is fantastic, I always knew that (plays very fast, very smooth) but that just reminded how how excellent the writing actually is (except for the notes that 'explains' puzzles, those always come off as a little dumb).

Anyway - see those 2 small red-herbs near Jill's foot here? I don't know whether it's a glitch, or a hint from the developers, but they appear here when they're actually in the back alley of this building. The problem is, you can only access this back-alley if 1)You meet Nemesis+Carlors for the first time in this building and haven't been in the restaurant yet 2)Decide to flee from Nemesis by choosing to jump through the window (said window which for some reasons will explode lol, I guess the fire from downstairs only spreads to the entire building if you do that).

So basically, that's 2 red herbs I won't be getting this time. I believe they are also semi-random, as they can appear either here or outside the gas station (randomly). Not sure.
Going to this building first will also change where you find the 2nd gem needed to unlock the gate outside. It is however more recommended to meet Nemesis at the restaurant instead and to decide to hide in the kitchen; which will make him faint and give you a free briefcase.

tl;dr look at 2 funny small red herbs

>RACCO BELL
>BURGER KONG

Raccoon City has the finest fast food of the US

Also I thought this "SMOKING PERMITTED" sign was amusing

and I like said, those 2 red herbs either appear in the hard-to-access back alley of the press building: OR at the gas station. Didn't get them this time but that hardly matters to me.

In case you didn't know, rather than using the ammo-making tool, combining C powder with regular grenades will give you more Freeze Grenades. So, if you go back to pic related with the wrench, you'll find tons of grenades. That + C powder and you'll tons of the best ammo to take down Nemesis! Enjoy and get that bonus shotgun from the briefcases he drops it's the most fun weapon in the game.

Exevia brand battery. The same brand as the battery you use for the elevator at the end RE1.

RE3 is full of little things like this.

>>1121036
About this tip, I've just read an FAQ (to make sure I was mixing the right stuff) saying
>. Mixing With the Grenade Rounds
> Unlike when you use the reload tool, the amount of ammo you get does not
increase with the number of times you mix.

That's wrong though. I just got 7 Freeze grenades from mixing 6 normal grenades + C powder while it used to be 6. I guess the guy hasn't tried enough.

Got the M37 shotgun as early as I could: the most fun starts NOW!

Gonna stop here for now. IIRC one save is allowed to get Rank A if you have a good time so I'll use that save gotta take a break

>>1121000

>(original PC version, the best

I tried to play the original PC version but ended up with major graphical errors that I couldn't fix, so I have to play Biohazard 3's sourcenext version if I want to play it on PC.

>>1121212
Have you tried pressing right click, then going intro "video" and unticking "texture correction" ?

Like I've said ITT the only problem with the sourcenext version is that Jap versions of RE games are easier (in the case of RE, enemies have less HP and I think Jill might have more not sure)

>>1121225

I believe I did try that but it didn't help.

> Jap versions of RE games are easier

I forgot about that! No wonder it seemed so easy.

>>1121236
RE3 is a very easy game to begin with considering the ammount of ammo and herbs around. Hopefully you're playing in "hard" and not "easy" as easy is just cheat mode (you start with all the normal weapons in the safe...), so the jap version is just ridiculous.

I'm always saddened by how RE3 will forever lack a real hard mode. RE2 did get that with the PC and Dreamcast versions and it's the best difficulty mode of any RE... Shame they didn't do the same for 3. Instead we got 2 costumes, blah...

>>1121247

Well yeah, when I play a console version I play on Hard Mode, when I play the Sourcenext version I play Heavy Mode. I've never been through the game on easy mode, even back when I liked playing games on easy, it did feel too much like cheating.

>That feel when I'm one of the handful of westerners to call the series Biohazard and everything just thinks I'm trying to be a contrarian.

>>1121681

Oh, it you again. I really don't like the name "Biohazard", at least for the first game. It gives too much information away. I like how you had no clue what the fuck is going on in RE1, with the name "Biohazard" you can at least conclude it has something to do with, well, biological hazardous materials.

Resident Evil isn't exactly a funky name, but it's vague and ominous enough to create a sense of suspension.

>>1121702

Me again? I haven't been here in two months, you must be thinking of someone else.

Biohazard does kinda give it away I guess, but maybe that's just hindsight talking. In any case, it was spoiled for non-Japanese people anyway. I remember reading a magazine preview talking about the virus that turned people into zombies, that was before the game came out outside of Japan, before it even got the name Resident Evil.

>>1119050
i always wondered about this ladder. all this just for a map and 2 herbs? i wonder what they planned to do there

>>1121247
> RE3 is a very easy game to begin with considering the ammount of ammo and herbs around

RE3 started the change of the series to action titles.

>>1121706

Ah here we go, I found some scans. Just posting these in case anyone is interest in pre-release material.

>>1121715

>>1121706
>Me again?

Sorry, there is someone else who insists calling games by their original Japanese name. My bad.

I dunno about the magazine issue since I didn't read games mags back then. So I guess I can be glad about the renaming.

>>1121715
>>1121717

Interesting scans. Thanks.

>>1121247
Anyone here good with a hex editor/disassembler, and programming in general? I have a hack here that makes the Resident Evil 3 PC version enemies invincible. A challenge for those who seek one, but it only works with the original, english language PC release of RE3 from 2000. I'll just leave it here, maybe somebody figures out how to use it.

Hex edit ResidentEvil3.exe

00053588:i662996CC000000 sub [esi+000000CC],dx

Change this hex string into all hex 90's (NOP) to make
zombies nearly invincible, so that only decapitation
kills them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfS6snXEa0g

Just gonna leave this here...

>>1121761
looks awful and a terrible reskin of resi2

Meh, I prefer the DC versions of 2 and 3.

>>1117061
Unlike the other Biohazard/Resident Evil games, the game uses a first person perspective view similar to all the popular PC shooters such as Quake and Half-Life. You can use either the GunCon 45 or a control pad to move and shoot your way through the zombie-infested streets of the island. To walk forward using the GunCon, press and hold the trigger away from the screen. To run, press and hold the trigger again while walking. Pressing the trigger twice will make you walk backwards, while the A and B buttons are you're left and right. To shoot, point the gun towards the screen and fire!!! You won't be able to walk backwards or forwards and shoot at the same time, for the more obvious reasons. If you need to access the status screen, then press A and B together. By pressing the trigger along with buttons A and B, you'll be put into the options screen where you can recalibrate the gun, change volume status or end the game altogether

holy shit that sounds horrible.

Someone should sticky this thread, cause I am a huge RE fan and never heard of the sourcenext rereleases.

Also am I to understand that it's possible to play RE 1.5?!

RE2 was the perfect game for me, it has the creepyness and unsettling loneliness of RE1 but was more fast paced and action oriented, plus with 4 scenarios it has a lot of replay value.

Survivor was cool but boring, and RE3 was fun but lost the creepyness. Code Veronica brought back the creepy factor a little but too much backtracking. RE4 was a great action game but it had nothing to do with RE except for having Leon and ADA in it, and don't get me started with RE5 and 6....

>>1121840
A playable build of the 1.5 prototype was leaked recently. Also, an incomplete restoration of said build has been leaked earlier. A group called Team IGAS is currently in the process of restoring the prototype to a completely playable state (They have a Facebook page). You can find the leaked builds from Assembler Games. Most popular Playstation emulators can run them. Also check out The Horror is Alive forums for info.

>>1121856

Cool, I first heard about 1.5 back in 1999 and back than there was no pictures of it

>>1121706
>>1121702

You know a Japanese person might not have much idea of what Biohazard means in English. At least not in that context in 1996.

Really before the term became synonymous with sci-fi plagues (in large part due to this series), all it really meant was a substance dangerous to life.

But its not like the virus is a big secret. You find the itchy tasty diary within the first hour of gameplay, and that spells out that this is all a sci-fi science-gone-wrong setting.

It doesn't give much away. About as much as Bad Mojo in a House does.

>>1121715
>>1121717

I wonder how it turned out lol... It's fun to see written previews of games that spawn huge franchises.

Anyone try the Sourcenext version of RE3?

>ps1 style jittering
>heavy/light mode with "Heavy" mode being easy mode in USA
>Can't figure out how to not start with an assault rifle and tons of stuff
>Models look poor and identical to PS1 version
>Can't find any in-game options

I swear the PC RE2 models look better.

This looks to be a lazy shitty port, unlike RE2.

>>1122158

>Can't figure out how to not start with an assault rifle and tons of stuff

You shouldn't be starting out with that stuff if you choose Heavy mode

In-game options are found by pressing F2

>>1122172
>In-game options are found by pressing F2

LAME

RE2 PC has a cool screen where you stand in front of a mirror and can change things.

>You shouldn't be starting out with that stuff if you choose Heavy mode

Okay. Have normal equipment now.

I read that the JP "normal" mode is still pretty easy. Really lame. Shame there's no Nightmare mode.

>>1122184
>LAME

You can also press RIGHT CLICK to access those options. That + how you couldn't find how to start the game with no extra weapons shows that you really didn't even TRY and complained for the sake of complaining. It would have taken you less time to start the game over to pick up the other difficulty, and to find the option menu by pressing keys that have always been used for option menus in PC games, or making a simple mouse click; rather than making a long post with picture + captcha.

>>1121761
in b4 that gets cancelled. Most interesting RE mods got cancelled, diseappeared of the
surface of the earth with no reason given (Dark Biohazard for RE2, that mod for RE3, etc).

>>1121741
Great! Man somebody should get into this and :
1) Turn the sourcenext version into actual RE3 by putting the difficulty exactly like the western versions are and putting the english translation into the game
2) Make a nightmare difficulty mode similar to the Hard mode of the PC/DC version of RE2

or maybe I should just learn hex editing.

>Replaying RE 3

Holy shit this game is terrible. It's just so stupid. Why did I ever think this game was good? I played through it like 9 times and got all the epilogues.

It can't hold a candle to RE1 or RE2.

>>1122536
My fav RE was a always a tie between 1, REmake and 3. Now that I've just recently replayed REmake (in normal as jill and in real survival as chris for the first time), RE0; and that i'm currently replaying 3, i can easily say that RE3 is my all time favourite.

3 is the one with the most replay value for the following reasons :
- semi-randomized placement for some items and even some enemies
- some puzzles are even randomized
- the powder system gives great freedom in your choice of ammunition.
- very little backtracking. No extra bullshit. Game length is just perfect for a replay once in a while.
- gameplay wise it's the fastest, smoothest, simply most fun RE. There is tons of enemies, tons of ammo, tons of weapons, there is a LOT of fun to be had.

Yes RE3 was more action oriented, but it's still survival horror in every single aspect.
I also believe its atmosphere is fantastic, it's a better sequel to 1 than 2 was because it literaly shows what just after RE1. RE2, except for the first few streets, is just RE1 all over again : big mansion, underground, laboratory. After the haunted house horror movie style of 1 and 2 now we have the logical next step : the entire apocalypse in the city à la Dawn Of The Dead.

The difference is like the movies Alien and Aliens. While RE2 was if the sequel to Alien was just Alien all over again. I consider RE2 the weskest of the original trilogy.

>>1122547
>Dino crisis with zombies

>>1122547
"I consider RE2 the weskest of the original trilogy."

RE2 the weskest

the weskest

weskest
wesker..... it all makes sense now .. doesnt it?

>>1121717
Barry Batton

>>1122547
>Liking the action spin off game the most
>Liking it over an actual resident evil game
Terrible

>>1122656
Are you calling RE3 an "action spin off" ?

While it IS more action oriented, RE3 is still survival horror. Let's also not forget that action is a main part of the survival horror genre, with no action, it's not survival horror, it's adventure-horror.
Also, RE3 is part of the main series. Code Veronica is officially a spin off. So is Dead Aim for example.

However
>Liking the action spin off game the most over an actual RE game
I do like Dead Aim a LOT more than CV or 0 though. Dead Aim is the most underrated of all RE games.

>>1122671
>Code Veronica is officially a spin off.
Only because Playstation had a hissy fit at capcom and wanted a numbered resident evil on the ps1.

Code veronica was originally resident evil 3
Resident evil 3 was originally a action spin off called resident evil nemesis.

So yes im calling it a action spin off because thats what it originally was.

>>1122689
>>1122656
I'm not sure the developers original intention (something that's outside of the actual game) has any bearing on the quality of the game.

>>1122689
>DMC was originally RE4 so I'll just consider it that

>>1122694
Oh come on. The name was changed 3months before release because Sony had a fit.

3 months. not while in development / beta

"However, three months before the initial release, the name was changed to Resident Evil 3, which project supervisor Yoshiki Okamoto later explained as a means of keeping the titles of the first three games on the PlayStation console consistent"

Hardly the same thing now is it. Don't be an idiot.

>>1122696
My point is that what matters is what the final product is, not what it was intended to be at some point during development. Regarding RE3 3 months is a lot.

I'm not going to consider RE1 a FPS because that's what it was at some point during development; neither consider there is a cyborg in the STARS team.

>>1122701
But the product was never intended to be resident evil 3.
>Regarding RE3 3 months is a lot.
They never changed the story or anything to compensate the change. they even kept nemesis in the artwork title.

The game is still an action spin off and only called resident evil 3 because of a deal they made with sony, nothing more.

>>1122696
>Don't be an idiot.
Dude, no game is exactly the same at the end of development as it is on paper. We can either re-evaluate every game ever based on how it changed during development or just make an exception for RE3 because it was last-minute change, but there is no rational reason to do either.
You got caught up in a dumb argument without thinking things through. Just drop it before this gets any more contrived.

>>1122709
>Dude, no game is exactly the same at the end of development as it is on paper.
My point is the game was ready to be shipped as resident evil nemesis not resident evil 3. Again as stated by the guys who made it, it was only changed due to a deal they had with sony.

That is the only reason.

>>1122707
Even if you were right on the title thing, you still can't call RE3 an "action spin off". It's not a spin off because the story involve the same character and is a DIRECT CONNECTED sequel to the 2 previous games. "spin off" means that it's derived from the main thing, losely based on. The survivor series is that; but you can't say about RE3 because it's exactly the same type gameplay and a direct sequel in the story.

and your "action" part i've already discussed, while it IS more action oriented, it's still survival horror, it's still the same type of gameplay. It's not as action based as RE4 like you're trying to make it sound, not even as action oriented as Dead Aim (dead aim which still has survival horror elements)

Not liking RE3 is fine but you can't spread lies, misinformation, and do wrong name calling just because you don't like it.

>>1122714
It doesn't matter. The reason could have been that they were high at the time. The motivation in their heads isn't something you can base substantial criticism on.

>>1122719
They literally just stuck a 3 on the title screen.
>you still can't call RE3 an "action spin off"
Would "action side story" be more appropriate?
>Not liking RE3 is fine but you can't spread lies, misinformation, and do wrong name calling just because you don't like it.
For the record i like Resident evil Nemesis. Im not lying or spreading misinformation everything i have told you is true and correct. How am i lying?
>and do wrong name calling just because you don't like it.
What?

>>1122728
>Would "action side story" be more appropriate?
No. Because like I said it's not a side story it's a direct sequel with the same character. It's also not action, it's survival horror.

>everything i have told you is true and correct.
"action spin-off"

>>1122731
http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/15/resident-evil-3-nemesis-began-life-as-a-spin-off/

>>1122732
This is going to blow your mind: "began life as" isn't the same as "is".

>>1122734
>The game we know as Resident Evil 3 was supposed to be a bit of non-canonical fun
until sony wanted to slap a 3 on the title

>>1122732
All that article says is that they changed more than just sticking a 3 on the title screen.

>>1122732

I'm not even going to read this (and also because I do know the story behind RE3, you're not teaching anybody anything here), the title says it all
>begin

RE1 also began as a FPS. There was also a cybord in the stars team. RE2 was also BEGAN as complete different game and changed entierely only a few months before release. RE4 went through at least 3 different phases.

>>1122736
did all those changes happen within 3 months of release?

>>1122739
How does that timeframe matter? Is there a rule about this written down somewhere?

>>1122739
and how does that make any difference? 3 months is a LOT for the making of RE3. It's not like it took 5 years to be made. And as far as RE2 is concerned, it might not be 3 months, but IIRC it was only a few months and they re-did EVERYTHING. So if they could come up with ALL of RE2 from scratch in 6 months surely a LOT can be done in 3 months.

Also the article you linked to doesn't even support what you are saying. The article is saying that, first there was a spin off evolving Hunk on a cruisehip; and that then they changed it all together to make, Resident Evil 3, with Jill escaping Raccoon City, a story as a direct sequel to the rest.

That's a lot more than "sticking a 3 there".

You try to change the definition of the words "spin off" and "action"; you try to base yourselves on articles that don't even go in the same directions; and you're stuck in your bullshit saying youre "correct and right" while we all proved you the contrary. I'm dropping the arguement here, if you still think Resident Evil 3 is an "action spin off" you're either retarded or a troll. All that just because you hold a grudge on the game...

http://residentevil.wikia.com/Resident_Evil_3:_Nemesis/development

>It was toyed with at one point for the player to be able to control a zombified Brad Vickers, tying in to his appearance in Resident Evil 2. However, because the game was only intended to be a low-cost side-story, it was decided that the production lacked enough funding to build it.

Shame, sounds fun.

>>1122742
No, he's right. The Hank game is a different game. RE3 is a renamed Raccoon City sidestory with Jill inserted into it. They spent the three months wrapping things up and adding a nuclear blast to wipe off Raccoon to mark the transition to the next generation.

Read the goddamn article. I thought you were one of the less retarded attention whores on here. Quit proving me wrong.

>>1122751
No. The article says that the spin off began as the Hunk story and that then it became RE3 and that THEN the decided that RE3 would feature Jill

>>1122759
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/Yasuhisa-Kawamura-Interview-Project-Umbrella

Worth a read. From the man himself

>>1122759
Read the goddamn article. They only mentioned the canned Hunk game because they were listing all ongoing RE projects.

>>1122751
>The Hank game

Jesus Christ Marie, they're zombies.

Whatever the original concept for 3 was. it really doesn't matter. They were at the point of being able to spit the game out pretty fast since they'd already made 2.5 games in the exact same engine.

And stop acting like you are goddamn connoisseur's of Resident Evil, turning your noses up at any hint of "action" like shooting zombies hasn't been a core mechanic since day 1.

The only difference between now and then is that shooter mechanics have gotten a lot better, the design of encounters took a huge nosedive after 4, and the player is almost always saddled with a partner now.

>>1122769
No they're hot hunks o'chunks slurp slurp glob glob if you catch my drift, he heh.

>>1122781

Exactly. Just because now I can shoot zombies better than I did in RE 1 and 2 doesn't make 3 a bad game.

The trilogy is awesome. Shut the fuck up already.

sure i'm not the only one who finds nesfag annoying?

surely i'm not the only one who finds nesfag annoying?

>>1122829
All tripfags are annoying. Nothing has changed. They crave attention.

>please please notice me and my opinions.

>>1122781
> the design of encounters took a huge nosedive after 4
No.

In RE4 you can kill most enemies just shooting at their knees.

so I'm resuming and finishing my replay of RE3 and...

Holy shit! I have played this game like 100 times, I thought I knew everything about it, and I just discovered hidden ammo I had never found before: 30 bullets in this locker in the basement of the hospital. I always thought ammo was a bit tight for Carlos... guess not anymore.

Who knew about this hidden ammo here?

Nemesis 2nd form might LOOK tougher, but he's actaully much easier to take down. One of the only gameplay flaw of the game I can note...

Fuck, I had underestimated those hunters. I just died, decapitated, the very second after I took this screenshot.

This "room" is one of the semi-random ones, either you get lucky and face dogs, or you're unlucky and face hunters. Didn't know for sure yet so I ran to the next camera which is when both hunters got here.... I had just killed one ine one shot in the face with the M37 shotgun so I thought, "no big dealing, those aren't RE1 hunters after all"... Well they might die more easily then Hunters in 1, but they're just as deadly if not more, and they're really fast. I was in fine status, first hunter hit me which probably set me to caution status, caution status which is when you CAN be decapitated... so the 2nd one just did that as I was killing the first. Damnit that got me by surprise.

>>1122883
Okay so, after dying, this time around, in the hospital, I went downstairs BEFORE going upstairs and the hidden ammo isn't in the locker! I guess that means there is hidden ammo in the other cutscene room upstairs ? we'll see

Anyway
>Catholic Student Center pannel on the switch
wat? You also see that pannel in some of the streets.
I wonder why they didn't make THIS puzzles semi-random as they could easily have had.

I finally did it... Not really fair though, as I'm using an emulator and the loading times are definitely faster

>>1122883
Nice, didn't know about that

>>1122934
>>1122883
Okay so here it is,
- if you go upstairs first, the ammo will be hidden in the locker downstairs
- if you go downstairs first, the ammo will be lying here not hidden upstairs. However, if you run right to it like an idiot you'll end up circled by two hunters. So, in solution 1 the ammo is hdiden, in solution 2, it's a trap.

>>1122883
>>1122887
>>1122895
>>1122934
Stop blogging this.

>>1122938
Very nice time for a console version, which version was it?. S rank means you're using a Jap version though

I did around 1h00mins once but on the PC version.

did you know about the hidden ammo in THIS locker (on the right of Jill)? It's either 6 grenades or 6 mines. I'd rather have grenades in order to turn them into freeze grenades but I just got mines...

Ah! Just discovered another fun thing. So, in this room, IF you are facing Hunters (it's either Hunters or Zombies) and actually want to kill them; after you've killed the first one, go on the right and then upstairs. That will "wake up" the 2nd Hunter hidden in the water. Now go back on the staircases on the right, and you can kill it through the staircase as the Hunter is running like a retard against the wall. Safe spot

Okay now I'm the dumb, not the hunter.... I just died again in the SAME ROOM. This time I killed the 2 first Hunters, except I had forgotten about the 3rd one... As I was running he suddenly appeared, I dodge-roll'd and appeared near the barrel. I aimed at the Hunter and shot, the barrel was at a 90° angle the right of where I was aiming so I figured it wouldn't explode... Bad guess. The M37 shotgun seems to have a very wide range of fire, I'm not too used to it. Damnit

>>1122949
Yep, it's the jap version. The decreased difficulty and the instantly skippable FMVs are really useful, my previous record was like 1:23.
This video also helped me a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q94L-oZqhk

I always jump off here, IIRC it makes one win time for the last part. Look at that face...

One question : during the Gravedigger fight at the cemetary, what happens if the two streets lamps fall down?

>>1122968
The problem with RE3 speedrun is the semi-randomness of the game. You can lose a lot of time just by bad luck... What difficulty did you play on?

>>1122763
So Resi 3 was a spin off. Cool.

>>1122839
That's an issue of combat, not encounter. I mean in 4 there is a lot more instances of cool stages and puzzles. In 5 and 6 it's a bunch of halls or standoffs with Majoni/J'avo/zombies.

>that dead licker on the left

Just read a note saying they were disposing off bodies in this facility so I guess it makes sense (had forgotten about that)

>>1123030
Yeah pretty much. Would of liked to see what Kamiya was working on.

HOLY SHIT! There is Magnum Rounds hidden in here too! Never knew about that either

>>1123041
RE4 has literaly TWO puzzles.

>>1123015
>One question : during the Gravedigger fight at the cemetary, what happens if the two streets lamps fall down?

They kill him. You can win this fight without firing a single shot, although you'll need to dodge his attack for a while.

>>1123051
>RE4 has literaly TWO puzzles.
This is lierally a lie

Dead Mr X, Jill even comments it

>>1123051
Also found a spray hidden in that room but fuck sprays

>>1123052
Cool. I knew that you could just wait out the fight and flee but didn't know you could kill it without firing.

>>1123054
Name them. I remember counting them and there was only two, that puzzle with the painting and I can't recall the 2nd one at the moment. Having to combine two items together that you find in the same area and put it into a door does't count as "puzzle" for me[

>>1123062
>Dead Mr. X

A Mr. X. THE Mr. X got blown up in Scenario B, remember?

So im restarting my replay of resident evil 1..

This should be fun. playing it on the DS, played this game like 100 times :)
Not sure on who i will play yet. Maybe jill.

>>1123070
its the THE Mr.X , its a different one

>>1123062
>>1123062

Dial behind the church where it only moves in increments of 3 or 4, that light puzzle in the church. That makes at least 3 including the painting room. Unless you want to discount one of those for some bull shit reason.

Oh, and the sliding puzzle as Ashley.

>>1123072
Well after a hard think im going to go with chris. Prefer the harder challenge involved. I hear he has less health and less ammo. we shall see.

Always used to pick jill because i liked barry as a side character

>>1123078
Woah..

I have only just realised there is not blood here? maybe it was chris's blood after all? what do you think guys?

also that emblem on the wall looks very suspicious. only armed with a knife atm so not feeling to confident :S

>>1123042
looks a bit more like a regenerator from 4 even though it doesnt make any sense

>>1123085
forgot my pic.. lol

Woah..

I have only just realised there is not blood here? maybe it was chris's blood after all? what do you think guys?

also that emblem on the wall looks very suspicious. only armed with a knife atm so not feeling to confident :S

>>1123091
Well first guy down. with the knife no less.

>Green blood?
Forgot to change the setting in the options menu. This version lets you change the blood.

Also did you know you can search his body for ammo? not only once but twice? pretty cool huh.

>Dat headless body
Pretty creepy.

>>1123076
> Unless you want to discount one of those for some bull shit reason.

Actually, the one behind the church is not mandatory so that's 3 mandatory puzzles in a 10+hours long game. It's really almost nothing.

>>1123094
Well looks like wesker and jill have vanished?!
Atleast i have found jills gun.

What was the point of the walkway behind the stairs? bit odd.

>free ink ribbon here
first save spot. gonna skip it. dont need it.
Do i go upstairs or downstairs? think i will stay downstairs.

Also bonus here. keep opening the main door for a shock :)

>>1123101
wow this room is blue lol.

>map in the statue
Dont forget this guys! its important. only F1 tho so upstairs is still a mystery.

Also there is a side room here with a zombie on the floor. your in for a surprise.

so far this is pretty simular to jills story.

>>1123096
Way to move the goal posts and add criteria you didn't add before, chief.

>>1123132
The "mandatory" criteria matters since your original post was about how RE4 was better designed because it had puzzles to break down the waves of fighting.

As Leon, there are 2 mandatory puzzles which break down the pace + one hidden non mandatory one. Then you have one as Ashley, but Ashley's whole part is already about breaking dace the pace though

so I guess that's where "2 puzzles" came from when I remembered counting them; it's really not much for such a long game. Also every puzzle can be completed without having to think as you can easily try every combinaison or randomly do it until it works.

>>1123108
Sorry i forgot my battery was low.

Anyways. i was blocked downstairs so i headed upstairs. Notice the blue door? that was the room i was previously in.

Anyways lets move on and head to one of the side rooms.
>no barry to give me grenade rounds..

>>1123175
>i hope this isn't barry blood..

small hall way. not really much in here. tho that blood effect is pretty creepy.

Apparently in beta these blood blotches were actually messages written in blood by the people turning into zombies.
No idea why they removed that.

onwards we go.

>>1123181
well its clear it wasnt barry huh. Forget his name tho i think its forest.

I never realised this was a balcony.. i always thought it was a room with some crazy tree wallpaper. i guess i was just a stupid kid.

Notice the sparkle on the ground? that means goodies!! i know hes gonna just out at me. here we go.

>>1123171
>>1123171
I don't have the time to detail every damn encounter and argue over the semantics of what is or is not a puzzle. Suffice it to say there are at least a dozen candidates, not all of which require their own interface.

The original point was that puzzles and encounter design are better in 4. Even discounting the puzzles, areas like the the various el gigante fights after the first one, the trap room with the novistador and the cage, the room with the monks and the RPGs shooting from behind a wall panel, the areas with the bug things (the several of them), the sniping areas, the 'IT' chase. All these portions are noticeably different. Contrast that to
how often they just use 'hall of enemies' and 'hold out until the timer is up' in 5 and particularly 6.

>>1123187
>It's Forest
Called it. Did you guys notice that his name is forest and yet there is a forest in the background?
Coincidence? haha i think not!! cheeky Capcom..

>sparkles
There was ammo, just handgun so nothing to write home about. Did you guys get this ammo too?

so i was expecting a jump scare from forest :( tho it never happened. searched the body and nothing. as soon as i turned around out of nowhere CROWS!!

I panicked and ran for the door :) nice surprised.
Well now we are loaded with bullets lets go kill some zombies!!

>>1123231
I agree about encounters, but for puzzles I don't, RE4 is awful in terms of puzzles. When a game has a sliding puzzle (Ashley's puzzle) you know the developers were completely out of idea and put the worst, most basic stuff there just because they wanted a puzzle.

Sliding puzzles are horrible. They are the most senseless. The worst to solve. The most lazy designed. The least original. I hate them. Yet one of my all time favourite survival horror game has TWO sliding puzzles...

>>1119026
>Capcom had probably planned a puzzle here which got scrapped.

Yes, they in fact did.

You first get the CHAIN object from the safe in the Warehouse (where there are handgun bullets in hard mode). You retrieve the FIRE HOSE NOZZLE from the red box at the top of the fire escape, and use the CHAIN to prevent the stairs from retracting and preventing your descent. You later find the BROKEN FIRE HOSE where you would normally find the normal one in the final version (you need the wrench to unfasten it). You combine these two objects to make the FIRE HOSE. Some other scrapped puzzles include combining the BATTERIES with the REMOTE CONTROL, finding and using the SPADE KEY in the RPD (as in RE2), and finding two medallions (not sure where they were supposed to be found or used). One puzzle was simpler in the beta, however; only the GIGA OIL was needed to fuel the cable car, rather than a combination of the MACHINE OIL and the OIL ADDITIVE (yielding the MIXED OIL).

>>1123229
Well here i am above the great hall.. two zombies in here. took them out with the knife because im a boss.

>see that statue
Well i went behind it and took out the zombie walking towards me. he got stuck behind it and was an easy kill.
Also the statue can be moved! kinda like a sliding puzzle. you have to line it up and push it off the edge. pretty basic stuff. this wont be the only thing we will be sliding.. this game has a few sliding puzzled here. lazy of the devs but hey

>>1123237

It's also possible that the Warehouse safe was originally locked, and the code could only be found in Dario's Memo. This would force the player to backtrack all the way to the Warehouse later in the game to discover his tragic fate.

>>1123243
>>1123237
Cool, but how do you know that so precisely?

>>1123241
3 BAD GUYS AT ONCE?
Shame i rock at this game. Few bullets and BAM! dead. HOLY SHIT!

Did you guys notice how ugly the wallpaper is here? what were they thinking? not really much here. just a few locked doors and some stairs.

Only way is down.

>>1123248
>Cool, but how do you know that so precisely?

Certain modders/hackers have excavated some very interesting data from the RE3 beta. Read all about it here:

unseen64 (full stop) net/2009/07/03/resident-evil-3-psx-beta/

(pic related, it's where you find the chain)

>>1123264
Headed downstairs and when though the first door and i was chased down by two zombies.

headed into the door and WTF Rebecca out of nowhere freaks out and sprays me with pepper spray?! lucky it seems chris has eyes of steal and is totally unaffected.

he is some info about Rebecca!
A talented girl, Rebecca graduated college at the young age of 18.[7] Her expertise in chemistry and medicine earned her a position in the Special Tactics And Rescue Service, a Raccoon City Police Department branch handling specialist cases. She was assigned as Rear Security (RS) and Medic for the Bravo team

Decided to save my game as some guests just turned up. dont worry tho i have taken loads of pictures and will be uploading them asap!! :)

Oh nearly forgot guys. there is a key on the bed!

>>1123041
> That's an issue of combat, not encounter.
Yep, and this issue got reduced a lot in RE6, since you have stamina and the 'window' that let you use context-sensitive meele is smaller.

> In 5 and 6 it's a bunch of halls or standoffs with Majoni/J'avo/zombies.
This design choice makes sense sincethey are co-op games. You can't put too much backtraking and puzzles in these games.

Also, RE4 only had 1 challenging puzzle (with Ashley). Every other puzzle in this game is dumb and you can find the solution in seconds.

>>1123231
RE6 has a plenty of interesting encounters. Not as much as RE4, but way more than RE5.

Fresh off of the Team IGAS Facebook page... The renders are pretty good!

>>1123356
Your thread just got deleted.. STOP ADVERTISING HERE

>>1123360

I'm not advertising, I'm sharing.

>>1123363
>>1123356
>Commercial spam/advertising
>Commercial spam/advertising

>>1123368

Guy, this is a Classic RE thread, you're acting like I'm selling mail-order brides. Does this project not qualify as Classic RE?

Based mods

What's with all the talk of RE4? Isn't this supposed to be a "classic" thread? Am I that old?

>>1123385
It started in an argument about action in RE games, and how re3 is allegedly "just" a spin off and is 99% responsible for RE6 or something.

>>1123353
The problem with 6 was too many encounters ended up being one time mechanics with snow mobiles or motor cycles or jeeps or planes that didn't rely on normal mechanics and just kind of drug on after a while.

If you compare that to stuff like the boulders in RE1, where there is still tension, but you don't lose control and get a bunch of button prompts.

>>1115841
How dare you call that a bummer? That is the only integral leftover from BH1.5..

>>1121247
Resident Evil 3 is easy because fighting Nemesis is optional. If you do decide to take on Nemesis every single time you fight him, you'll be scattering for gun powder and herbs. Only if you bring FAS into the mix does it get slightly bearable.

>>1123360
>>1123368
What was it?

>>1122696
DMC is the spiritual RE4. The backgrounds and atmosphere resemble a lot those of other RE games. Not only that but DMC's action is more focused on the enemy; you need to learn the patterns of the enemies before slicing away. The perfect example of RE's influence in DMC1 is Shadow and Blade. Shadow plays easily like a refined RE monster (dodge, find the weak spot, attack) and Blade is pure RE next generation (dodge, use grenade launcher, re-position, repeat).

>>1122887
Nemesis is supposed to be easier to take down because he is losing control after sustaining damage. That's why he is much more powerful (if he manages to combo your ass, you'll be in critical stat for a finisher) but far more predictable. His 2nd form makes perfect sense.

>>1123062
There are 5 dead Mr.X and 11 dead U.S special forces in that place, IIRC. 2 U.S special forces survived until they got to the hospital (most likely killed by the Hunters).

Whats the best versions of RE2 and RE3?

>>1123738
Some will say Dreamcast, others will say PC. Though I prefer the Dreamcast version of RE2 and the GameCube version of RE3.

>>1123738

PC (Sourcenext version) for RE2. Nicest grapics plus load screen skip and 4th Survivor and Hunk are unlocked from the beginning.

For RE3 I vote Gamecube mostly because it has the nicest graphics. Otherwise, PC version since you can skip load screens and have two extra costumes.

>>1123662
Well I just replayed the game on Hard and I took down Nemesis every single time EXCEPT the very first time (I had forgotten it counted as an encounter, thought the moment he kills Brad and when he crashes through the window was the very same encounter); and I still had TONS of ammo. If you know what you're doing with the powders there is no problem at all to take him down every time and to still kill tons of enemies (use normal grenades to make freeze grenades as much as possible, fight nemesis with freeze grenades; and then I make as much shotgun shots as possible by using AAB powder)

Whats the definitive version of Resident Evil for the Playstation? I only have a lose copy of the directors cut, and I'd like to buy a compete set.

>>1113170
well i challenge you to a game of quake

>>1124384
Do you mean, what's the definite version of RE1 altogether or what's the definite version of it only on playstation?

In any case, there is no definite version, it's a matter of preference.
- The Director's Cut and the Director's Cut Dualshock versions have the most content. Original game but also director's cut version.
- Dualshock versions of RE1 and of RE1:DC have a different (considered worse) soundtrack
- RE1 on Saturn has better 2D graphics but worse 3D graphics. It has 2 exclusive costumes, 2 exclusive new skins for the 2nd wave of 2 type of enemies, and a fantastic exclusive battle mode. The western versions also have no autoaim contrary to the director's cut versions but just like the original PS1 version (unless you're talking about Jap versions, in this case it has autoaim on saturn, i know it's confusing)
- the PC version has the best graphics by far and a couple of fun bonuses BUT it's only playable on a computer of its time. On modern OS it runs at150% the speed... You also have access to mods (or should I say, to The Barry's mod, which is nice)
- the DS version is completely different. You have the original version and a DS version which is pretty much another kind of director's cut but with shitty touchescreen "puzzles" and shitty forced touchscreens first person fights. However even if you play "original agme" on it 3D models were ALL remade, the characters have new moves, zombies a new ai, which is why it plays compeltely differently.

>>1124397

Thanks for the info. I just meant on the Playstation. I was just trying to decide if I wanted the original long box or buying the Directs Cut Dual Shock.

The different versions on each system are pretty interesting though.

>>1124404
On Playstation, go for Director's CUt or Director's Cut Dualshock (or both, for the different soundtracks)

When you play tthe original game on DC versions the only difference is that you have autoaim

what do you mean "longbox"?

>>1124412

I meant the original case for the game. It's a really long style Playstation box. Like when the system first came out.

>>1124418
Nice. I'm not familiar with NTSC PSX cases. So yeah, the only difference is that there SHOULDN'T be auto-aim in this longbox version. Either than that, if you get Director's Cut you'll have this version+the arranged mod. But before buying the dualshock version I recommend you check on youtube what's the difference between the soundtrack of the dualshock and non dualshock versions....

So I had never played the original japanese version of RE1 so I just downloaded it and ran some tests for comparaison sake.

Holy shit the japs had it bad.

So the jap version is easier as expected: characters have more health. Also there is auto-aiming. It seems to be the only gameplay differences though but it's already a lot, though more tourough testing would be needed to give all differences.
But what's REALLY bad is the censorship: there is no blood AT ALL. Not even when the bullet hits the zombie, not even on the floor when it's dead it's really ridiculous!

Gonna test the jap Director's Cut versions next

>>1121247
It´s easy except for that fight with Nemesis after he shoots down the chopper...fuck that noise. It might be easy if you have freeze rounds, but I didn´t have any

>>1124419
So I just tried the japanese dualshock version now. There is blood now but the blood that comes out of the corpses when they die seems very pale.
Played on normal and there is still more health (as much as in the original jap version).
However, while taking down the first zombie in both the original jap version and the original pal director's cut version took 4 bullets, this time it took 9 bullets! Maybe it's just the first zombie though, more torough testing would be needed. It's kinda weird.

>>1124552
Yeah that's the toughest part of the game. You can make freeze rounds by combining C powder with normale grenades or by combining CC powder with the ammo making tool.

>>1124419 (You)
So I just tried the japanese director's cut version now (non dual shock). There is blood now but the blood that comes out of the corpses when they die seems very pale.
Played on normal and there is still more health (as much as in the original jap version).
However, while taking down the first zombie in both the original jap version and the original pal director's cut version took 4 bullets, this time it took 9 bullets! Maybe it's just the first zombie though, more torough testing would be needed. It's kinda weird.

>>1124552
Yeah that's the toughest part of the game. You can make freeze rounds by combining C powder with normale grenades or by combining CC powder with the ammo making tool.

>>1124384
I would argue the definitive version is the original. Seems like too much stuff bled in from the director's cut, even playing the original mode.

The lack of auto-aim really ups the difficulty too.

Guess it depends on how "authentic" an experience you are looking for.

>>1123668

Someone was apparently "advertising" the Facebook page of Team IGAS, an anonymous group of non-profit developers who are working to complete Capcom's scrapped Resident Evil 1.5.

Pic related, it's from them:

>>1124729
>Commercial spam/advertising

>>1124729
"Someone"
Its you..
You're using the same file name and image and still advertising. STOP ADVERTISING HERE..

>>1124628
I agree. Although the original jap versions did have auto-aim, for the authentic experience I always play the NTSC-U Saturn version or original PS1 NTSC version, hardest, most authentic. Saturn version is better imo though.

Director's Cut version is fun for the DC mode to play the game in a different manner though.

>>1123668

Resident Evil 1.5. And nothing more.

>>1124735

I was just trying to answer the anon's question, but apparently the truth must be censored here. Pic unrelated, it's the 80% build.

>>1110681
CV has the best engine though.

>>1124735

I am not even advertising anything... why was my last post deleted? I really don't get it. Clearly the problem is me and not this board.

>>1124808
Except that a full3D engine on Dreamcast didn't allow for detailing. Contrary to RE2 and 3 which had tons of details everywhere in their backgrounds, CV is empty, bland, clean.
Also, characters and monsters (especially characters) move very stiff and so are their animations, compared to RE2 and 3.

>>1124808
CV's engine was great.

>>1124512
I don't remember anything about the blood. But yes, the game is considerably easier. However, do note that the game is supposed to have auto-aim; retards at Capcom USA and Europe decided to take it out to artificially revamp the difficulty, but as Mikami once stated in an interview, auto-aim was always necessary because the pre-rendered backgrounds (instead of 3D models) did not allow the player to see what was ahead of him. I do think that the more difficult enemies (to defeat and damage they cause) were good additions, though, and it seems the Japanese agree, considering that Arranged Mode of Director's Cut implemented those changes.

>>1124552
That's pretty much the easiest fight of traditional Nemesis, regardless of him carrying the rocket launcher into the fight or not. There's too much space and your arsenal has considerably increased by then.

If you really want a challenge in RE3 then fight Nemesis in every occasion. Then you'll understand why the game is so easy on Hard Mode if you escape from him every time.

>>1124580
Also, in Director's Cut, if you're playing Arranged Mode, Chris will occasionally land a critical hit which results in decapitation. Pray that you're landing them frequently, or you will have ammunition problems in the Mansion.

>>1124512

>But what's REALLY bad is the censorship: there is no blood AT ALL.

The fuck are you on about? I've played Biohazard before, it's got the same amount of blood as the American version of the game. Hell, it's even less censored what with the uncensored intro and first zombie cutscene.

>>1124512

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdlqH1FpDj0

>Also there is auto-aiming
>there is no blood AT ALL

>>1124743

>Not the original version of the game; was modified by people who didn't develop it
>most authentic

>>1124831

They upped the difficulty in American in hopes that people would just buy the game rather than rent it.

I'm fucking around an hex editor and RE3. Surpringsly there are TONS of tutorials around. Pic related, giving myself my favourite weapon to start the game with.

I'll keep fucking around with hex editing for a while and see what I can do. Then perhaps I will create a Nightmare Difficulty mode for the game, RE3 lacks that.

>>1124852
Oh yeah that was actually my emulator fucking up...

>>1124863
I said HARDEST most authentic, as in, the most authentic you can get with the hardest difficulty. Nobody wants to play resident evil japanese baby's mode.

>>1124831
I like not having auto aim as an extra difficulty. But if you'd rather have it, then just play a verison which does. Nothing wrong with that.

Mikami's quote (which would be nice if you actually had source) doesn't matter. He took out auto-aiming in the Real Survival difficulty mode of REmake after all.

>>1124881
Please dont start your Resi3 picture spam again..

>>1124884
I wasn't planning to but I'll let you know next time I do.

>>1124418
I have that but its only in acceptable condition and I'm missing the manual :(

I haven't read this whole thread, but I'm played the first RE again after many, many years of not touching anything related with the series.

After I started playing, I became a little apprehensive about continuing because of the damned ink ribbon thing. I think to play 15-45 minutes of a game (usually from "save spot" to "save spot") and then go do something else. With a limited number of saves, I feel like I'm obligated to play for longer than I'd like. Will this become an issue, or is it decently balanced.

I just re-installed the PC version of RE1. Installed it and ran it using Windows95 Compatibility mode, and installing the 1.00c official european patch, the game plays perfectly and at the correct speed too.

So, since RE1 PC doesn't seem to be that hard to configure to run properly, I think I might take back what I said earlier about liking the original PS1 version as best most authentic (while having the western difficulty). The PC version has great graphics, no loading times at all between camera angles contrary to console versions (which is a BIG plus for smooth gameplay) and you can skip doors.

A shame that the PC version didn't have the bonuses of the Saturn of Director's Cut version though...

>>1125156
and also the PC version is the only version where there is a bonus beretta clip hidden at the back of the lab room where you fight the tyrant lol Probably a hint from the developers who ported the game at how you can actually kill the Tyrant in around 12-13 Beretta bullets, thought it was quite funny.

>>1125140
There is tons of ink ribbon around really in obvious spots. There is also more hidden (for example there is some at the back of the blue room downstairs near the hall, some in the scientist overall located in the room with the small aquarium you have to drain water off, some in a drawer of a room of the guard house that can be opened with a small key for Chris or with Jill etc)

Allright, guys, using the advice from >>1121741 I have created a pre-patched ResidentEvil3.exe, which should make the game nightmarishly difficult. I only tested it for a few minutes, but it'd seem to work, I couldn't kill any of the zombies with body shots alone, I always needed something that can perform a decapitation. Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ke11r

Just drop it to the same folder where the original .EXEs are, and use this patched .EXE instead to start the game. This .EXE is from the original year 2000 release, so it may not work with Sourcenext.

Come to think of it, what ARE the circumstances of the Director's Cut? Did Shinji Mikami sit down and say "New item placement, new music.... yeah, this is how I really wanted it to turn out!" or did the title just get tacked on because at the time they found they could re-sell movies by slapping "Director's Cut" on it, adding some deleted scenes?

>>1125503
i thought it was a "sorry resident evil 2 is taking so fucking long here have a special resident evil DC to keep you busy"

>>1125509
Did a double check and i was right.

Resident Evil: Director's Cut (バイオハザード ディレクターズカット Baiohazādo direkutāzukatto?) was the first major re-release of Resident Evil. The game was released as compensation for the delayed release of Resident Evil 2. The Director's Cut contained, in addition to the original version of the game, a new arranged mode with various changes made to the game.

>>1125512
>>1125509
forgot to mention it was also shipped with a Demo of Resident evil 2

>>1125509
>>1125512
>>1125516
Yeah, but how involved was Mikami in it? When you consider what a "Director's Cut" is actually supposed to be, and what they actually did with the rerelease, they could have called it just about anything else. Resident Evil Advanced, Resident Evil Plus, Resident Evil (weird Japanese subtitle here).

>>1125531
>Yeah, but how involved was Mikami in it
no idea.
Guess they just went with directors cut for the hell of it.

Maybe a reference to the 80s horror directors cut boom. Resident evil was always joked about being similar to the B-line early horrors.

>>1110896
You are so full of shit.

PC version has the same arrange mode in terms of item placements. What it does have is nightmare difficulty which needs to be unlocked first, which is essentially hard mode.

N64 version of RE2 had randomizer mode with different shit.

PC version is inferior because it cannot be forced into high resolutions so you are forced to deal with pixelated characters.

Nintendo GameCube (emulated) is the best version really. Looks the best in terms of models, you get some nice background filtering and shit too.

>>1125156
I still think that console version on a CRT looks better than PC one.

>>1118161
Can someone shed the light on emulating dreamcast versions of RE2 and 3? I thought there's no way.

>>1125610

nullDC

>>1125617
1.0.4 crashes when I boot up RE2, right on the sega screen after the dreamcast boot screen.

>>1125587
>I still think that console version on a CRT looks better than PC one.
I agree.
PC versions look like shit. sharp bold player/enemy models that stand out too much from the pixely backgrounds.

most the pictures the tripfag posted look hideous.

>>1125623
Exactly, it's all about the blending of 2d and 3d.
Characters do look like shit, all the flickering/jittering is really annoying but what can you do.

I'm downloading the magnet link from the above which supposedly has the filtered backgrounds for RE3. That shit looks fucking amazing.

>>1125619

Then I'm afraid that I don't know, the only game I've ever played on nullDC was Code Veronica which worked perfectly.

>>1125630
>Exactly, it's all about the blending of 2d and 3d.
Totally agree.
even this >>1123272 picture looks better as atleast the 3d models blend into the background better and not stick out and look out of place.

>>1125587
It's a series that plays best on a CRT with a controller. The PC versions ain't bad, but the true RE feel is on a console.

>>1125647
Yeah.

I think the definitive version of 2 would be NGC emulated and then outputted into a CRT tv.

>>1125654
Any reason why emulated?

>>1125659
I often read how NGC is a straight ps1 port. It's not true though because model textures are different actually. It's clearly noticable when you emulate both, NGC has detailed faces (eyes etc etc), plus there is no pixel jittering or however you want to call the shit you get when you emulate ps1 version, or actually play it on a real console.

Of course you can also just play NGC version on a real gamecube, but that's not available to everyone.

>>1117706
....and here's gamecube version for comparison:

>>1125587
i agree. Just look at the threads main image. Looks like shit.

Consolefags who claim the game looks better on console because of the scanliness and bluryness of a CRT screen hides the uglyness of the console versions makes me laugh...

The "best played with a controller" thing isn't even an argument. I play the PC versions with a PS2 pad and its d-pad is much better for RE games than having to deal with the joystick of the Gamecube or Dreamcast pads.

EVEN if you were right on the graphics thing (which really is very arguable) the PC versions are still better for the smoother gameplay (no loading times at all between camera angles is a very important thing gameplaywise), being able to skip doors, and having the most bonuses as far as RE2 and 3 are concerned, access to mods

>>1125585
>PC version has the same arrange mode in terms of item placements

Then you haven't played the game enough to be able to spot the differences.

>>1125678
This is enhanced by the emulator.

>>1117706
This is the non-sourcenext version at lowest settings.

Nice biased comparaison. And then I'm supposedly the one who's "full of shit". Right.

>>1125587
>I still think that I should play at 2 meters from the screen than just one.

>>1126454
I don't say it hides the ugliness. It does apply a nice filter to backgrounds so the shortcomings of the low resolution don't show up that much.

I'm sorry but if you think that models don't stand out too much on PC/emulated, you are a retard.

>>1126454
There's no delay between camera angles on NGC version.

And honestly, I don't think anyone who played the games back in the day minds door loading animations.

>speedrunning RE3
>5th or 6th playthrough, so I'm rather familiar with the game
>I just dodge enemies, since fighting them takes more time
>got to hospital with Carlos
>got the vaccine, heading back
>a Hunter appears in the corridor
>leaps and me and beheads me in one hit
>last time I saved was before getting all the shit to get the cable car running
>mfw

I still love this game.

>>1125623
>most the pictures the tripfag posted look hideous.
Yup.

>>1125630
>Exactly, it's all about the blending of 2d and 3d.
Yup.

The PC release on modern rigs I wouldn't particularly call authentic. It ends up being nearly the same situation of emulating, with a couple of notable differences.

If anyone thinks that's the "best" version, that's pretty subjective.

>>1126468
>Nice biased comparaison
>1126454
>Consolefags

>biased
lel

>it's actually Wesker saving Jill

and I don't see how it stands out any more than on console versions.

>>1126586
>it's actually Wesker saving Jill
Again you are wrong its barry.

If Jill was poisoned but did not sustain damage, she must collect the serum herself.
If Jill was poisoned and sustained damage, she will fall unconscious and Barry will collect it for her. She will regain consciousness in the 1F chemical storage room.

>>1126586
>it's actually Wesker saving Jill

I don't know how you definitively reached that conclusion.

>>1126595
>>1126613
>Again you're wrong.

Everybody thinks it's Barry.

Except that the pants here are black. Barry's are blue, only Wesker's are black.

>>1126621
It's barry. It's even stated in guides as barry. Enough.

>>1126621
They look blue to me.

>>1126626
Guides aren't made by developers.

>>1126634
Yawn. So all those guides are wrong yet you and only you have figured out its really Wesker. Get over yourself.
You're wrong.
Yet again.

>>1126628
Compare to this screenshot and you'll see that Barry's pants colour is much closer to Jill's than that of Wesker that you see when she's poisoned.

If it's really Barry, then why don't we see his face when he saves Jill? Why doesn't he stay in the save room with her and wake her up?
Even Jill sounds like she's not sure it was him, her tone is very interrogative "Barry... ?"

Everything was made from the developers to make the player not sure who it was, but if you look closely, you realize it's Wesker.

>>1126648
Its Barry. Its stated everywhere as barry. You may think its Wesker but you're wrong.

>If it's really Barry, then why don't we see his face when he saves Jill?
Rebecca does the same if you choose not to take her. She turns up and carries chris. You don't see her face either. If you choose to take her you gain control of her and get the serum yourself.

>Why doesn't he stay in the save room with her and wake her up?
Because hes working/blackmailed by wesker. Jill could of died to the B.O.W ( more data for wesker ) tho barry saves her.

>Even Jill sounds like she's not sure it was him, her tone is very interrogative "Barry... ?"
She just woke up from being poisoned... Shes confuse at what just happened as she blacked out.

>>1126586
>it's actually Wesker saving Jill
Any source for this info because i found many stating its Barry.

Or are you just speculating?