/vr/ - Retro Games

>Link's Awakening borrowed this games game engine
holy shit, will play
it was developed by Nintendo and everything? why didn't they release it in the west?

>>1115118
>it was developed by Nintendo and everything?
My memory might be off, but I think Intelligent System helped them work on it.

>why didn't they release it in the west?
Pretty sure it was released during the time Nintendo of Japan deemed the west to be too dumb for some kind of games. It could also just have been a gameboy thing. We missed out on a lot of good games.

Alright, time to vaguely discuss next week choice.

What I had in mind for next week was Sega Genesis, and I want to let you guys vote on the game that will be chosen. So what I plan to do is let you guys suggest a bunch of games, then I will look them through and choose three (the rest of them will be left on my suggestion list!).
What I'm looking for is
>Platformer
>Shmup
>Beat 'em Up
Try to give suggestions about must play games and gems.

>>1115113

Isn't the Prince with the gold leaves in LA from this game?

>>1115143
He is! If I recall correctly the theme song from this game even plays in his house.

>>1115131
A great lesser-known beat-em-up for the Genesis would be Mazin Saga. It's based on an old anime series that was only dubbed about three-fourths of the way through, so it wasn't really popular, and neither was the game, by extension.

>>1115147

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJMv0k1TY38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPgoOxGb6vk

>>1115120
>deemed the west to be too bored with some kind of games
FTFY
I like JRPGs personally, because while many Japanese gamers responded positively to Wizardry, most other WRPG series were poorly received and they were seeking something simpler and more accessible. So Yuji Horii and other game developers satisfied that market demand.

Other than specific genres that got shit on like JRPGs, most of NOA's bad decisions were because of paranoia at America's moral majority and assuming anything even slightly offensive - drugs, sex, excessively graphic violence, etc. - would cause a shitstorm.

Nice, always heard about Prince Sable and his game. Downloading EMU now.

It could had been nice if you used the GIF template of the last thread, OP. But eh, whatever floats your boat, I guess.

>>1115163
>GIF template of the last thread, OP
I didn't make that one and have no idea how to edit it. If I did, I would have. I agree with you, it's a nice touch.

>>1115131
I'm all in for a beat-em-up even though I suck at them.

How do you get past this nigger?

>>1115182
Ah, nevermind, figured it out. Didn't notice there were more rooms on the right side of the palace.

IT BEGINS

56-0? Holy shit I'm such a loser.

This... is the menu transition?

So, Okkun, how long is this game? I need an aproximate.

BTW, the water looks real nice for being a GB game. Way better than the one from the GB Zeldas.

>>1115182
Think like a snake

>tfw you will never toll the bells

This is going into my reaction image folder.

>>1115238
about 5 hours: http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=4915

NO STOP GIVING AWAY MY MONEY FUCK

>you will never have a bro-tier rivalry like the prince of sable and prince richard

>>1115248

Thanks. I can only play one hour at a day, so I'll probably finish it next week.

The combat is a bit weird. I expected Zelda, or RPG, not a mix of both. It's somewhat refreshing.

Excellent, the overworld is fairly large, and there are lot's of screens to explore.

Sweet!

>>1115270
>I can only play one hour at a day
That's aight, this game is really well suited to stop-and-go play due to the journal in the menu that recaps everything you've done up to the point you're at

Oh, Zelda 2. How I missed you.

>>1115270
Yeah, I feel you with that. I can't say I like the battle system, but it is unique. When you think about it, it's pretty much the battle system from most strategy games. So this is pretty much an Action/Strategy/Platformer/RPG.

Oh Zelda 2, how I've missed you.

Thank god for Wonderballin'.

So which Nintendo team made this?

>>1115286

I'm wondering if the strategy part gets more complex the further you're in the game.

NIGGER GIVE ME MY CASH BACK

>>1115305
"Team Shikimaru", which is R&D1 with assistance from Intelligent Systems.

>>1115332
Once you get the wasabi you can beat enemies you usually couldn't have.
It pretty much breaks the game

>dem shrooms

>>1115363

Seems like Yoshi Island all over again.

Why all the bosses always leave me with the tinyest bit of life?

>>1115372
the game's set up so you can only just barely beat the bosses

>>1115372
Eh, I think it's to make it more exciting. Like, oh no, are you gonna make it? Are you gonna make it...OH you made it.

Nope, nope none at all. It's not like she's some demented old witch-thing that has a tree full of poisonous apples or anything.

>>1115381
Well, whadda ya fuckin' know?

>>1115341

I knew it. I had a slight Frie Emblem vibe from this.

Anyway, my time for today is over. See you guys tomorrow. I'm loving the game so far.

>>1115131
rocket knight adventures is a game not a lot of people played although i think its relatively well known

well this entire thing became utterly tripfag infested in no time

>>1115398
Is there any difference between between the genesis and snes version? I've only played SNES and the PC remake bofore.

>>1115403
Seriously, tripfags plz go

>>1115410
there is no snes version of rocket knight... and the remake is ass

>>1115403
Sup dude?

Super excited to play this game later today

>>1115410
I'm pretty sure there isn't an SNES version...

>>1115410
the snes game is a completely different thing

>>1115413

>only anonymoose can play gaem plz go we louigun

But seriously though, have never heard of this game, will play. Thanks OP

>>1115415
man i love playing games!!!

speaking of games i had an argument with my mom yesterday and shes kicking me out of her basement, im feeling kinda down right now and could really use some support from my friends :3 :3

>>1115421
>doing that "taking what someone says and then greentexting it after adding stupid shit and spelling it wrong, /v/ tier shit

tripfags plz

Last week of october should be something spooky.

hey guys I feel the need to have my posts on 4chan associated with an identity because I'm epic as fuck and I'm very funny and important. Let me use reaction images too all the fucking time

>>1115423
You know it's possible to use a trip code and not be a complete asshat, right? Anyways I'm going back to
>>>/mu/
I'll be back to discuss this game later.

>>1115428
using a tripcode means you consider yourself to be a special enough snowflake to need a tripcode so everyone can be your friend and see how great you are

>>1115426
let's not derail the thread now

>>1115428
Hey guys I need to let it be known what boards I'm frequenting too, I go to
>>>/mu/
because I have an epic taste in music, I love black metal it's so dark and grim like me

>>1115430
still not getting the fucking joke

Goddamn, This fucking fear try wont die.
I got the saws and the sheild and the speed gem....

This guy is an absolute sexpot 11/10 would bone.

>>1115426
You're right. Now I'm going to play this game and take screen shots of every little thing and come up with epic and funny captions because I KNOW I'm important, and I KNOW everyone wants to see me spam a thread full of useless shit!

>>1115439
Cut the other trees you see. A few of them have ladders underneath with stuff you need.

>>1115446
There was one tree I missed, Thanks Tripfriend <3

How the hell does the combat work? I press A when the arrow is pointed at the enemy and it does damage, but if I do it when I'm fighting that douchebag guarding the castle, he's invincible or some shit. Do I have to go down into the dungeon to the right at the crossing?

Also, given that LA borrowed this game's engine, I was expecting actual ARPG stuff, not "press A to not die" bullshit.

>>1115494
You have to explore to find the item to get past him

>>1115496
Did that after asking. But I still hate the fighting mechanic here.

Is there any way to avoid taking damage? Is there more to it than just hacking away at each other until someone falls down dead?

>>1115494
Battles are automatic. You won't win unless you're strong enough.
You can't get stronger by grinding, you have to find items

>>1115516
So it's basically just a pure adventure game dressed up like an RPG?

Interesting.

The gif from last thread should have been edited and reused. I also noticed there are no GNU/linux emulators suggested at https://sites.google.com/site/vrgotw/emulators..

>>1115591
I tried gngb, but it doesn't work with my controller. There's a way to patch it, but I'm not motivated.

Also, mess has a gameboy target but for some reason no mess systems ever work for me.

>>1115507
I really dont like the fighting mechanic too much either, but I dont know. I think you have too, soon you will be strong enough to take out dudes without getting hurt but still.

>>1115591
I agree. Or at least some common image that can be used from week to week and is recognizable in the catalog. It would draw more outside interest that way

>>1115518
>So it's basically just a pure adventure game dressed up like an RPG?
Yep.

The railroading is really relentless. I lost track of how many battles you MUST lose.

>>1115437
He's in Link's Awakening.

>>1115684
and his house is full of frogs

>>1115153

Funny, that exact video was the reason I learnt about this game.

I have never played it though, even with it's translation, I just never felt like it.

Might give it a try now though.

>>1115113
Wait a moment. That butt-head old man appeared in Wario Land 4 too. Just a coincidence?

>>1115421

I really wish Tripcodes only existed within a thread.

You people are scum.

>>1115746
good eye. wouldn't be surprised if it was a reference/cameo lost in translation due to westerners being unfamiliar with the source material

>>1115778
>implying the tourist's trip isn't widely known
##frequency
people use it for shitposting

>>1115623
>>1115591
Please read >>1115165

>>1115746
>coincidence?
What do you mean by that? It's the same guy.

>>1115792

why not just stick with Anonymous? Do I really need to know that your not a regular before reading your post? Do I need that reader discretion?

Sounds like special snowflake faggotry to me.

>>1115803
sounds like people really need to get over tripcode users unless if they're being especially bad to me. no harm done if they contribute to the board.

that's all I have to say about that, I don't want to shit up this thread

>>1115808
> if they contribute to the board.

If you are actively contributing to the board and(or) its necessary for you to have a tripcode there's nothing wrong with it.

tripfagging just to tripfag goes against the culture of every board and makes forced anonymous a very attractive option, faggots will destroy a very useful tool.

>>1115793
I can make one again next week if we figure out the game ahead of time. I'm sure there are people who can do a better job though. Last week's was my first gif attempt. I think I like it better when it doesn't loop

>>1115746
prince richard was in link's awakening too

>>1115839
Just the image if anyone wants it

I'm looking forward to playing this OP. Never heard of it

>>1115845
>>1115839
This is awesome! The next game will be announced openly in this thread. I'm going to create a poll in a couple of days.

That said,

Reminder to everyone to recommend me Sega Genesis games. I need them for future polls!

Just started and I'm honestly digging the game so far. Only just got to A La Mode.

seems like a neat idea, will try out

>>1115867
Ristar.

Does anyone know a way to seemlessly use save states (or battery saves) created on a PC on a Mac? visa virsa as well too.

>>1115905
OSX versions of console emulators require different battery save files?

If this one works I'll post the template and instructions. Anyone can do it in the gimp

>>1115839
Aww. Sorry -- I didn't see you'd already posted an animated one.

>>1115914
ive had problems with them not working properly, or otherwise not letting me configure the directories.

>>1115921
Sweet! If it's not too difficult I should be able to do it without too much hassle.

OP Fyi,
the VBA link you posted for mac, no longer runs on Mountain Lion Macs.

I just started playing. I like the ability to save with the diary at anytime. I haven't quite figured out the battling yet. At first I would get in brawl with the slugs and trade back and forth blows. No they just fly away from me. Doesn't seem like any skill is required

>>1115976

>>1115516

>>1115976
Anyone else having a problem with it not keeping saves?

I was playing on EmuMaster v3 for PSP and my save disappeared the second time I went to play it.

>>1115971
Okay -- here is the template. Replace the lowest blue frame with the cover, cropped or scaled to that size. Then dupe that frame and replace the other blue frames.

Then set the opacity of the lowest (formerly blue) game cover frame to 25%, the next to 50%, the next to 75% and finally the top to 100%.

Then select the lowest game cover frame and Merge Down to blend it into the frame below. Repeat for each other game cover frame.

Then export as a gif with no looping. It sound like a lot of steps, but it's really just like 3 minutes of work.

But if possible, let's let >>1115839 make the pics. He created the first one so he should have the job if it's at all practical.

>>1116006
yours looks great too. whoever gets around to it each week is fine. or if anyone ever comes up with a better design thats cool too

>>1115983
Now that I understand that you can't actually do anything during a battle I am starting to really enjoy the game. Having fun exploring and searching for items and power ups. It's definitely a different mindset from most action or turn-based rpg's. Not having to grind is nice.

I just noticed when you talk to a female NPC the sound it makes is pitched a little higher.

>>1115113
When I try to open it with VBA it says "Usupported File Type" What do?

When I try to open it with VBA it says "Unsupported File Type" What do?

>not using the anonymize feature of 4chanx

Plebs all up in here

My suggestions are:

Atomic Runner
Wings of Wor
RangerX
Rocket Knight Adventures

well just finished the game(always wanted to play this it but never have). overall I'd give it 7/10. definitely worth the play through and should have gotten a proper NA release.

pros -
-great graphics for GB game
-interesting use of animal transformations
-dungeons are well designed and fun to explore, especially the castle

cons -
-way too much unnecessary backtracking
-all power ups are completely necessary to advance
-battle system is dull and boring

This game really is quite interesting. It's not quite an RPG although it pretends to be, it's not an action adventure in the same way Zelda is, and the 2d bits are pure platforming.

It's definitely one of those games you play for the aesthetics and dialogue and not necessarily the gameplay (although I did love the platforming funnily enough). I'd consider it a GB equivalent to EarthBound in that sense.

Anways, great game. The final boss 'mini-game' had bitchin' music.

>>1115118
Is this why there's a room with a bunch of frogs in it in LA?

Wow I bypassed this thread since yesterday since I didn't recognize the cover. I feel really stupid.

Anyway, starting out.

Somebody was tripping balls when they came up with this storyline. Why am I frog? What was that witch going on about? I don't even.

This game is very entertaining though.

OP, I'm the guy that wrote the Retro Game Gauntlet random generator (the one on s3kr.it). I'd be interested in putting together some sort of bespoke voting system for RGotW since I need a new project to work on. Is this something you'd be interested in? Email is in email field.

I'm back, I'll be here until 1:00 PM.

We Metal Gear now.

Why is he so perfect? Richard for Kerfuffle

Why is he so perfect?

If Richard doesn't gets in SSB4, at least the main theme must.

WHAT

I hated Winona's Gym so fucking much.

Shit, why did my SNES have to break down? I was going to finish that game in it.

Welp, I'm just gonna get that translated rom instead.

>>1116810
That was the prince's little hideaway while the castle was seized by monsters. He just liked frogs...

I fucking hate this game economy.

MUH DICK

I don't mean to be a dick but the thread could do without your running one-liner narration and screenshots. I realise it's a thing in the gauntlet threads and it makes sense there, but when everyone is playing the same game you're kinda spoiling it for them with all the posts and needlessly clogging up the thread. It's supposed to be like a book club, so how about just playing it and if you have something to discuss then make a post, and possible accompany it with a screenshot if appropriate to further illustrate your point?

>>1117353

If you actually see the screenshots, you can note I'm not spoiling absolutely anything both plot or gameplaywise. I carefully choose the pictures.

Besides that, I only play one hour af a day. My time today it's up. Only six screenshots, zero clobbering.

You don't really need to be a dick, you dick.

>>1117353
he just wants attention

Why won't the rom work for me?

>>1117365
just stop posting the fucking screenshots man, no one cares that you think your playthrough is so important and unique to warrant a screenshot by screenshot let's play bullshit. It doesn't, it just comes across as obnoxious

>>1117353
>>1117485
>>1117714
>You're not allowed to do things I don't want you to do.
>Your opinion is wrong and mine is right.

>>1117753
Don't be that way. If everyone acted like that one guy it would just be a circus thread. That's all they're saying.

If you want to liveblog your game you can start your own thread and see who gets on it. There was a great one with Diablo a few weeks back. But it's just a little pushy here.

>>1117858
The whole point of this thread (more or less) is to do that kind of stuff. At least I'm pretty sure that's how OP intended it, as he tripfags himself.

the castle sewer is tedious. just got the warp door

>>1118129
Yeah, but we have to know better than him.

>>1117753
except
>>1117353
was a well intentioned and thought-out post

yours is a reaction image and
>implying

no I'm not saying that malice

>>1118173
Let's talk about the game already.

Polite sage because this thread doesn't need to be bumped with any more tripfag discussion

>>1118196
Wait...how'd you get it in color? I thought it was a black and white game only, or is that through SGB or something?

>>1115867

Adventures of Batman and Robin.

>>1118213
Wait, never mind, apparently it's a screenshot from the cancelled DX version of it. Least from what I was able to gather about it.

>>1118217
Yep. It looked awesome

>>1118215
I'd be interested in playing that. Is it any different from the SNES version?

>>1118219
It did, I wonder how difficult it is to hack color into a GB game. I know someone did it to Pokemon Red, and I can't imagine it being easy at all.

>>1118232
I used a color patch on a Metroid 2 rom. It worked okay but was a little glitchy

Can someone please help me get the rom to work.. I really want to play this game

>>1118475
What emulator are you trying to use? What happens when you try running it?

>>1118483
see
>>1116165

>>1117336

Are you implying that that wasn't a reference to this game? Because it totally was.

>>1118514
you're trying to open a .gb file with VBA and it doesn't open? idk, did you remove the gb. file from the rar?

>>1116165
typically it gives you a list of options: open gba, open gbc, and open gb. you sure you picked gb?

What the fuck do I do at this Mt Bavarian maze shit?

I've tried 1) following the directions in order 2) killing the number of creatures specified and then following the direction 3) leaving the specified number of creatures alive and then following the direction.

>>1117336
Of course it was him. It's obvious.

You don't know LA is just full of Nintendo references up the wazoo, right? Mario, Kirby, Yoshi, Goombas, a picture of princess Peach...

It's one of the reasons why it's my favorite Zelda.

>>1119087
I'm pretty sure you just have to follow the directions, and you'll get there. You don't need to kill anything.

>>1119087
>>1119093
I'm retarded. Way overcomplicated it.

>>1119095
Writing 'em down helps...

I'm a snake

i'm a snake

Time for my daily Frog time.

I'm not tripfagging anymore, but you'll get the same fucking result anyway, don't know why all the hate.

>>1119250
no you are ouroboros

Please tell me there's fanservice in this game.

One thing I am not liking so far is how you need to grind for equipment, otherwise you're practically going to die.

Legit question. What would happen if I run out of items at this screen?

Saving takes you to the latest hospital you have been, right?

THREAD THEME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJJLdMwJlKc

>>1115149
>Mazin Saga

Might be cool. Mazinger is actually very well known in Japan and in parts of Europe, so chances are good it would be known by some. Still, an interesting excuse to try a licensed game that might still be good.

I don't like this game's combat much personally. Perhaps it's that it feels so similar to LA that I expect Zelda-style combat. That said, I love how the whole frog business is playing out. And the nice touch of actually being a prince with money, unlike the typical game thing of being super poor and unable to do anything in the beginning even if you're some great leader or something.

>>1117264
>at least the main theme must.

You don't mean the ear-raping bleeps at the start, do you? It was quite a turndown the first time I heard that, but the rest of the OST is good. Specially the overworld theme
>>1119348
Nice

If we ever do another GB game, I think James Bond 007 should be considered. I think it's an interesting little game. Rather than being an FPS, it's an overhead exploration game kind of like Link's Awakening in some regards. Interesting in that I believe it was actually the last non-color GB game ever released in the US.

>>1119370

Of course I was referring to the overworld theme. That remix is going into my custom Brawl on Eldin's Castle.

alternate thread theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLasFRHQ1h4

I AM MAN FROM JAPAN.

This game is goofy in the good sense, I love it.

>>1119390
I agree

So Mandola was the princess in disguise the entire time.

But if Mandola was actually helping you the entire time why the fuck did she take all your money so you couldn't fix the spring bell?

Well, if you think about it, you never could have made it to the end without the bad things she did to you. If she hadn't taken your money, you never would have gone to the goldmine to try to pay for the bell, and you never would have found the snake killer (the only sword capable of defeating Delarin)
Mandola obviously knew it was hidden there, and she did the things she did so you would grow strong enough to save the kingdom.
Not to mention she basically gave you awesome transforming powers

>>1119565
>tfw you forget that spoiler boxes arent just for putting jokes in

Ok so I had a think about this, and thought of an idea for a voting system.

At the start of the week, a selection of n (say 5) games from a variety of platforms is chosen randomly. Over the course of the week, participants vote for those games from some sort of voting page that has links to some info about them (for example, Mobygames URL).

At the end of the week, voting ends and the most voted-for game is the /vr/ Game of The Week. A new vote starts a the same time, so that by the end of the week we have a new game to play - it's a sort of rolling vote system.

Games can't be winners more than once, but can be nominated more than once.

Let me know what you guys think, any improvements, etc. and I'll look at putting together a demo/prototype.

>>1119439

Imitation is the biggest form of flattery.

>Nantendo Fun Center

What am I missing to deal with the evil tree? I already got the shield, the saws, and the speed stone under the one tree. I just can't seem to beat the evil tree blocking your path to Mt. Bavarian. I know I did it before when I played, but now I'm starting it up again after losing a save and I don't see what I'm forgetting.

>>1119678
have you considered strawpoll? Don't vote off of 4chan posts, people can spam that way too easily.

I saw this fan art a while ago and now I finally 'get' it. I thought the guy fighting Link was someone from Fire Emblem but it's the main character from this.

>>1122142
I'm trying to think back.

I think there were a few trees in that general area that could be cut down to reveal stairs and items. There was one right by the village

>>1122224
Pretty sure I got em all, the speed stone most important but the wonder ball was also a nice find. I'll keep looking, I did it once so surely it's not that hard to figure out my mistake.

>>1122228
if you got the speed stone and are not beating him, you must be missing a heart upgrade. I know there is one around there under a tree

I think I'm kinda stuck here guys. Need some help.

I already met the witch, then went to the castle. Then I came back to play this months later and have no idea where to go.

>>1122245
Well, I found that Warp Door . I think I must be on track now. I think.

>It's 'Prince'

The Pwince confirmed /v/irgin

>>1122146
To tie it in to the random game selection, I'd roll my own voting system. They're not too tough to make, even including spoof and multiple-vote detection/prevention.

I'm just making this post to show that I haven't ignored this thread, I was just banned for a couple of days for a post I did at another board.

Another thing I need to talk about..

I can't promise 100% that the new thread will be up at thursday. Recently I've fallen very ill and some days I just can't get up to bother doing anything. If it doesn't go up on thursday it will hopefully get up on friday.

If anyone feel that they're up to the task and can help out with making a new thread and pick a game this thursday, hit me up on IRC. You can find me on #RGOTW at the rizon server.

How to you trigger a conversation with the guy in the bar in mine town?

>>1123730
read the sign in the front of the town.

>>1123742
I got it.

Before reading the sign you have to talk to the guy in the house next to the wife's house in the top left who explains about the bulletin board

Credits are rolling now. The game was okay. Puzzles were very simplistic and combat didn't require any skill or strategy. Changing forms and searching for items was fun at first but got pretty repetitive after a while. Final boss didn't even require finding all the hearts

At least Prince Josh is getting laid no matter what form she's in

>>1115746
They were going to make a remake of this game for the Gameboy Color.

So new game tomorrow?

>>1126068
Read >>1123045

>>1115410
The SNES games are a goddamn atrocity
On the other hand RKA for the Mega Drive is possibly the best platformer I ever played.

>emulators
>SNES: SNES9x
Am I being trolled?

>>1126539
What, would you prefer ZNES?

OP, what's the next game going to be? I can make a gif if you want

>>1129213
See
>>1123045

Maybe ask him on that IRC

>>1130625
Discussion Thread for this week

I haven't had time to do more than half of the game this week. Stil enjoying it so far though. Just got the Work Glove. The doctor's comment on future work sounds like a reference to something, maybe another game that was in development?

>>1115131
Pulseman.

>>1130951
>>>1130625

I just finished the game today! I have the same complaints as >>1125006 but I still enjoyed the character the game had.

I finished this game way back in the day, and I don't speak moonrunes.It was fun , although I brute forced all the game.

Still got my cart somewhere in my parents home.

Maybe its time for a replay and know what actually they are speaking..

>>1131417
I think I'm about done as well, and looking forward to the ending soon. I feel the same. The game is obviously very formulaic, like everything was done to make sure nothing can possibly go wrong. Despite that, it was still charming in its own respects. The main theme is also one of the best songs I've heard in a game boy game.

The thread for the new GOTW died, does anyone know if a choice was made for the next game?

I remember some of the possibles.

Clock Tower
Pulseman

but forget the rest. Anybody got any info?

Gotta love this boxart. It really captures the whole of the game's characters quite well.

>>1132113

I say Crisiscore.

I just bought it and it's a cool little 3D Fighter, it's pretty interesting.

>>1132113
see
>>1131862

>>1115113
Beat this a couple months ago
Shit is damn good, the prince is my #1 retro pick for Smash 4.

New thread started for this weeks game Clock Tower


>>1132674

>>1132674

>>1132674

>>1115131
right now i'm playing live a live for snes. i think it would be a great one to do for vrgotw.

>>1132803
>>1132674
bring it up in the new thread and play some Clock Tower in the meantime