/vr/ - Retro Games

I hated the GPL posting on Doomworld. Peak retardation.

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Fraggot
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/d-f/fraggot

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===

/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
BETA V2: https://files.catbox.moe/tc0rgk.wad

=== NEWS ===
[8-08] Official Port gets overhauled, adds new episodes, with new weapons and monsters. Has MBF21 compat, and apparently also a new standard???
Includes lots of unseen Alpha & Beta content!
https://x.com/Wario64/status/1821578978462699748

[8-07] More Quake II updates coming. Possibly something about Quake 4 also.
https://x.com/nightdivestudio/status/1821265126219247951

[8-07] DBP67: Marble Hill is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3642/marble-hill

[8-03] Anon releases Cliffside Combat:
>>11130303

[8-02] Chocolate Doom 3.1 released
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/releases/tag/chocolate-doom-3.1.0

[8-01] Quake 2 N64 Skins released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/qiake-ii-n64-male-skins-by-paril

[8-01] Alien Armageddon 5.00 Part 1 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-alien-armageddon/downloads/alien-armageddon-500

[7-28] Nugget Doom 3.2.0 adds custom skill level option
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-3.2.0

[7-22] Quake 2 PSX coming Oct 5th
https://youtu.be/qkRs7ko2TB4

[7-22] The Quake Bonk Jam is out
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/bonk-jam.373/

[7-21] Quake E1M1 cleared in 0:22
https://youtu.be/zdMzCjsB2Uk

[7-19] Tetanus has been added to the Unity port.
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-EU/article/new-add-on-tetanus
Updated idGames re-release scheduled.

[7-14] Marathon 2: Durandal has been re-released on Steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398490/Classic_Marathon_2/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [mm-dd] date bracket)

>>11143884
What?

>>11143891
https://www.doomworld.com/search/?q=GPL&type=forums_topic&item=146899

Anyone take a look at those commX.wad files in Common.kpf\vault\maps? There's 5 of them and they're marked as an IWAD oddly enough though each only contains 1 small map. Two seem to take inspiration from existing maps as well. Not sure how to launch from within the new port but they do work in other source ports from what I can tell.

>>11143884
>>11143892
So don't fucking bring forum drama here.

The mod report function really needs a “shit doesn’t work” option to purge half the broken shit clogging up the mod browser. I assume by this time tomorrow there will be 50 pages of mostly non functioning wads or the whole browser will be axed.

I see 512 linedefs and HFFM (under "Gachi mod") in the mod browser

>>11143902
This reminds me of when the Skyrim (or was it Fallout 4?) mod workshop was added to be cross compatible, with mods that couldnt work for the Console version getting uploaded anyway by people who thought they were freeing them from "the evil modders who didnt want to share them".

>>11143907
Doesn’t work on PS5. Neither did the Gachi one or even most of the mods that worked in the unity port. So some mods work on the PC version just fine? Shouldn’t every platform be the same?

>>11143902
Haven't tried it yet but can you even test that it works with the port before uploading to the browser? Didn't see a way to just launch any random local wad

Wait did Bethesda incorporate something into Unity Doom that allows people to upload mods? Is that why the last thread had like 900 posts?

>>11143915
yes
I just tried uploading 512 Linedefs myself as a test, it ended up being so broken that I just nuked it. Maybe I'll have better luck with the vanilla projects but I'm not too interested anymore desu.

>>11143910
>Unfortunately, I had to remove maps 3 and 6 because game crashes when loading them
what fuckin crack is this port smoking to "support" boom and mbf but also break while in the confines of these established formats

>>11143915
The new kex engine port allows it and it means consoles have access to any uploaded mods, too. So stupid shit like Mario Doom on my Playstation is happening. A lot of stuff just doesn’t work on console, though where it may work on PC. Most of the unity port mods don’t work for me in this console version.

>>11143927
>>11143918
That's neat. I'm glad for consolefags.

>>11143926
Yeah, I think they tested zero wads. They didn’t even test the wads that worked in the unity port that they officially put in the mods section.

>>11143930
Better report it then lad

>>11143930
lmao, nice launch Bethesda
But hey, at least the new episode works I guess, and it came packed with some pretty cool shit

>>11143930
Classic bethesda

>>11143926
This door on HFFM map01 crashes too

>>11143951
That's not a door I think.

What the fuck so they somehow fucked up BOOM on anything but Plutonia

>>11143397
Don’t bother uploading Ad mortem. I don’t think it’s going to work there.

>>11143956
Plutonia is not boom.

>>11143957
Lots of shit that's uploaded doesn't work at all, I don't think they're gonna stop.

>>11143958
shit yeah i forgot

im not sure what i expected with nuts.wad with bethesda's update
those first three or so minutes arent super rough but it should be able to handle it waaaaaaaaaaay better than it currently is

Can (you) find the chaingunner in this image?

>>11143957
yeah I didn't bother trying after seeing how they didn't even get boom support right
>>11143980

Who's the brainlet level designer I can blame all the Slaughtaurs in Deathkings on

>>11143980

i swear doom eternal's official editor is literally just radiant with 20 years of extra triple a bloat piled on top of it

>>11143713
>>11143714
Asking in this thread too

>>11143991
I'm just surprised it's still brush-based. I thought current year developers just make maps in 3D modeling programs and only use a dedicated map editor to place entities.

>>11143991
DE got a map editor? What the fuuuck. Neat.

>>11144010
If it aint broke, don't fix it.

So looks like some folks from Doomworld helped out with the Upcoming SNES Doom re-release (mainly map porting and play testing)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/146905-snes-doom-limited-run-collectors-edition-announced/
>Being done by Randy Linden, the original programmer for the SNES port with some assistance from various Doomworld members
>More or less a port of Ultimate Doom as it includes Episode 4
>Improved controls and faster framerate than the original port, still renders at the original resolution.
>Runs on a modified Super FX2 chip, dubbed the SFX3
Sounds kinda neat desu, will wait for the rom dump.

>>11143971
It's the Kex engine so it's not really optimized that well for anything, it's just there for them to cobble shit together and knock it out as quick and cheap as possible.

>>11143971
Beth Doom was made to satisfy shareholders.
>>11144046
Exactly.

So is Legacy of Rust just another wad you can slap into a source port or is it only playable in this new Doom 1+2 bundle shit that just came out

>>11144043
>SuperFX3
Holy shit, that's is amazing.
Hope they drop docs of the chip (it's probably a FPGA, but who cares)

>>11144075
reportedly it works mostly fine in MBF21-compat ports with some visual stuff missing due to the whole "ID24" thing

>>11144083
what visual stuff

Apparently, they only just started to remove the uploaded content. Can't say what criterias are.

>>11144087
There's some skybox stuff, hud stuff and other crap in the ID24 stuff.

>>11144098
I can picture one of the devs telling some angry middle manager faggot "Hey, I TOLD you this was going to happen."

Is Zandronum / ZDoom ports somehow easier than Vanilla/Remaster in some way, I'm playing Doom II and it feels like the monsters just have way less of a windup time before firing overall. I'm getting wrecked in some of the earlier stages due to hitscan and even in Dead simple (my fault for daring to not take cover vs arachnotrons when I have the invis debuff still on.

Though, I;m playing on a basic i3 laptop and a wireless mouse right now so that plus non-tweaked mouse settings on remake could be affecting my aim (I loaded up Dead Simple on Zandronum and did much better)

>>11144130
Somebody was placing bets on how long it would take till Imp Encounter ended up on there.

>>11144098
>>11144130
Like I said in the last thread they should go back to the curated wads and TCs, I think those did a fine job of showing console only people and new players what the community can do.

Is there a way to play coop on custom maps in the new port at the moment? There doesn't seem to be an option.

>>11144138
By default, ZDoom based ports tend to use the improved hit detection (which makes both the player's and monster's ranged attacks a bit more accurate and kills some of the bugs associated with it).
As for agressiveness, this should not be perceptibly different, all frames are the same lengths, and all RNG calls should be the same values with virtually indistinguishable odds.

Check maybe if you have Vertical Sync turned on if you're playing the new port, because that can fuck with you and give you not insubstantial input lag.

>>11144041
I have difficulty believing it isn't broken six ways from Sunday under the hood

>>11141651
i know right? i never thought about a bayonet, if only there was a exploding bayonet launcher lol
I wonder if there is another launcher i could use besides the m203.
>>11141654
>>11141657
oh really that's p neat
>>11141662
My favorite attachment in COD was a flamethrower, the SSG slot is an auto shotty AR-style gun. I do want to add a energy shield when ADS.
>>11141708
I was so tempted to do that. hmm.

>>11141576
I like the micro missiles in both nuDooms. I like weapons that go pewpewpew and weapons that go boom, and they do both.

Man. How do you get thru Phobos Lab in under 2.45, that level is such a fuckin slog. Five straight minutes of plinking away a wall of pink with a shotgun. Shoulda grabbed the RL I guess...

>>11144163
I thought the shotgun grenade was super easy to use and generally effective in many encounters. I got a ton of use out of that thing.

>>11143885
crispy 7.0 released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom/releases/tag/crispy-doom-7.0
mostly bugfixes and under-the-hood stuff

Gog download when

>>11144186
It's been up for several hours now at the usual site.

>>11143719
>>11143730
>>11143770

initially MBF21 in GzDoom was available through the default compatibility options preset (compatmode 0)

in the current master branch (targeting the 4.13 release) they added two explicit MBF21 presets
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/issues/2308
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/commit/a6e1114d3cea82cf9aeaa74f36eea7f94a544e67

adding the appropriate command line parameter should ensure accurate behaviour:
-compatmode 8 (for MBF21)
-compatmode 9 (for MBF21 Strict)

>>11144140
Fucking lol

>>11144206
>compatflags
You didn't need those.

>>11144163
right, i remember i love using micro missiles in both games too. .
I think i saw an airsoft gun with a micro missile looking pallet launcher or could "roman candle" it.

>>11144201
?

Can you look up in the doom+doom2 bundle port?
gzdoom kinda spoiled me over the years

>>11144234
No. I think that GzDoom can run the new levels though.

>>11144201
I'm dumb and don't know the usual site

>>11144243
lemonparty.org

>>11144243
Unironically go to reddit. No, seriously. r/piracy is all i've needed to be in the know for ages

>>11144247
Why has it become a chat room?

>>11144256
Domain was probably nabbed by someone hoping to make money on it, it has happened to a lot of those old websites, such as meatspin.

>>11144256
Dunno, corporate buyouts I guess.

I only bought Doom 2 on GOG back in the day so apparently I'm not valid for the new version lol
The whole "you need to make a bethesda account" thing turned me off from wanting to try it anway

>>11144010
everything i remember reading about id tech 5+ over the years suggested it was so radically different that open sourcing or modding it was out of the question, so seeing id's documentation referring to ancient quake 1-era bullshit like wait parameters, lightmap compiling and on-grid mapping in [current year] is surreal, to say the least. i'm exaggerating a little, a ton of shit's obviously been changed, added or removed in the last 20 years - vis isn't a thing, but i think carmack ditched vis compiling by doom 3(?) - i'm just dumbstruck by how similar their basic level design process feels in some ways
>>11144016
https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/
https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/tutorials/build-a-simple-box-map
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2545650/DOOM_Eternal_idStudio/
it's extremely bloated and i hate it when modding tools get locked behind steam, but at least it exists lol

>>11144276
That's genuinely incredible and that puts id above a lot of over studios at the moment. I know it's easy to say
>These tools should have been in since day 1
and credit to developers like Croteam who got Serious Editor 4 out lickety split, but I really do think they deserve credit for getting this out. Good times ahead.

Did the new combo pack happen right now?
I usually use the Crispy port to play Doom so I'm a tad blindsided right now.
Anything worth pulling out of the files?

oh nonononono AAAAHAHAHAHAHA look at the state of his official remaster

>>11144298
hoi resolutions fonts y'all

>>11144298
Yuk

>>11144298
Are you serious?

>>11144298
Fuck me you're not kidding, what the fuck?

>>11144298
>>11144307
Accessibility option you deliberately turned on

>>11144298
saved me a purchase

>>11143927
>The new kex engine port allows it and it means consoles have access to any uploaded mods, too.
well except on Switch, apparently Nintendo wouldn't allow them to do the user supplied mods for the Switch version

>>11143907
Searching for wads is fucking horrid.

>>11144278
nu-id still sucks, and i was absolutely one of those people bitching about them forgoing official mod support, but you're right that this release is more than what the majority of aaa devs have done for modders in the last... decade, and i do think this is a legit step in the right direction. i'm skeptical that eternal maps/mods will take off (mostly because of the high barrier to entry), but i hope it at least reminds id and the rest of the industry that modding is a cool tradition that should be preserved, not a liability or a cheap cash cow
i'm a little paranoid that this was influenced by bethesda and that they'll start hawking official paid nudoom "creations" or whatever, but we'll see
>>11144298
>he forgot about kexquake having the same fugly "accessibility fonts" option added in a patch
lmao

>>11144309
Not him, but it really shouldn't be set as the default option.
Original Doom text seems legible enough for me.

>>11144327
>they're still forcing people to accept zenimax legalese bullshit and make bethesda.net accounts years after the microsoft buyout
the more things change, the more they stay the same?

>>11143991
Does it still have megatextures?

>>11144330
i thought id tech 7 killed megatextures, but the documentation still mentions them here, so i'm not actually sure if they still exist or not
i'd check the editor myself if i owned the game and had 200+ gigs of free space, but i like being a petty faggot who boycotts bethesda, so alas

>>11144323
Nintendo have been running crap like Mario Maker and Animal Crossing long enough to know better than to trust players with this shit.

I'm so baffled how they're making games from 1993 and 1994 require 8GB of RAM and DirectX 12. That's gotta be like expert levels of introducing unnecessary bloat.

sorry I'm late to the party, do we know why bethesda bundled sigil 1 in their latest cashgrab but not sigil 2? Some advanced jewery?

>can't do multiplayer on downloaded maps
Genuinely a downgrade from the Bethesda port.

>>11144342
i remember kexquake unofficially running on windows 7 a few years ago, but i wouldn't be surprised if they've broken it since then

>>11144342
Minimum settings are often a lie, and are just the worst hardware QA had available to them. It runs on the Switch, I doubt it requires 8gb of RAM.

>>11144347
So is the Bugthesda.net stuff just to play multi-player?
Haven't had to sign up for anything but I don't usually use the Steam ports.

>>11144360
Probably used for downloading maps, too.

>>11144360
yes, although i'm pretty sure the newer kex ports don't plaster a bethnet signup screen in your face like the old unity doom ones

>>11143971
Is performans on nuts worse than GZDoom?

>>11144383
Not that anon but it doesn't seem to be worse, though it doesn't seem to be that great either.

Regardless of how you feel about the port it's still better than GZDoom.

>>11144395
Sure, if you're retarded I guess.

>KEX Quake movement and aiming is "just not the same"
>KEX Doom released
>its movement and aiming is equally "just not the same"
Is it placebo, or is KEX actually fucking shit up?

>>11144395
Better for what though? Cause for general play there's something weird about the weapon swapping in it, which I can't put my finger on it but it seems slightly quicker to change but slower to give you back control and I can't be doing with that crap.

>>11144409
You just know it's some BS with the higher framerate they didn't account for

>>11144407
It's definitely Kex, I remember with Quake some anon went out of his way to time the movement between two spots on a bunch of ports and releases and it was significantly slower on the Kex version.

As a genialized engine it's unlikely to ever handle right in every way, especially not compared to purpose-built sourceports.

>>11144238
They been extracted already?
Even custom weapon mod? I gotta download that. It’s in OP right?
Is there any reason to play the nightdive remaster?

>>11144407
It has aim acceleration on by default among other things.
>>11144413
Kex Quake had wrongly configured console variables for strafe and movement speed.
Kex Quake also changed the nightmare difficulty.
They almost always incorporate their own changes which nobody ever wanted. Q2 rerelease was an abomination too.
It's great they are keeping these games for the next generation of kids who play on consoles but for anyone else these are redundant.

>>11144416
There's a few bits of the id24 format that aren't supported elsewhere yet but it's cosmetic stuff for the most part, the meat of it is dehacked and MBF21.

Odds are the big name ports will rush that stuff through and Zandronum and Eternity will get it by the next ice age.

>>11144421
>Q2 rerelease was an abomination too.
Now you're just being a contrarian.

>>11144421
>It's great they are keeping these games for the next generation of kids who play on consoles but for anyone else these are redundant.
Yeah that's kind of the thing, for anybody with a passing interest, they've probably got a way to run it that's closer to how the game handled than anything Nightdive put out.

Their intended audience are the fairly casual types, the ones who'll go out and buy some shite game like Nerves of Steel something if a "retro" Youtuber tells them to, with no interest or drive of their own, so even just running a wonky version of the game is enough for them since they'll never know better.

tl;dr We're not the target audience, lads.

>>11144421
>>11144425
If KEX Q2 is an abomination, I don't even know what can be said about the rest of its ports.
PS1 chads where you at?

>>11144407
This new Doom port is garbage. How do you fuck up something as simple as the input?
Doom 95 didn't have this problem.

>>11144447
Oh come on, at least disable the mouse acceleration before shitting on it.

>>11144442
Console FPS ports of that era were generally shit, Doom got away with it at least with some versions by kind of forcing studios to try to do their own thing to make up for not being able to just straight port it with the corners filed off.

>>11144442
I like the colorful lighting and slightly different weapon designs in Q2 PSX, and being able to play it with controller+mouse is awesome.

>>11144453
I'm getting different results with a script, what do you mean?

>>11144458
Q2 port was good.
>looked cool as fuck
>removed the bloat levels
>split-screen deathmatch

>>11144453
There is no option to disable mouse accel...

>>11144472
Yes there is.

>>11144483
Where?

>>11144483
Wanna bet? If you can't provide evidence, you respond saying you're a massive retard. If you can, I'll say I'm a retard.
Go. Prove it.

>>11144327
None of those anons, but the original Doom font was the default for me.
>>11144345
This is the one thing I want. I just want to be able to host something like Alien Vendetta on the fly without having to mess with ports or TSPG and play with randos.

>>11144327
To be fair, the first thing you get when launching is "there're accessibility features, you want to keep them on or turn them off"? It's kind of understandable why they went this way to simply the process for people who require said features.
>Original Doom text seems legible enough for me.
Some people might struggle with it... Which is surprising to me too, but hey.
>>11144342
Current wrappers are demanding. Not a fan of it, but not much I can do. Especially since there's little interest for optimization on developers' (and many people's) side.

>>11144487
When you launch the new port first time, one of the very first things it asks you is do you want the new accessibility settings enabled? You can't even access the actual game menu before selecting to turn them on/off. It just won't let you. The only people who got it enabled are the same people who never read error messages before clicking "ok".

>>11144485
Oh yeah I fucked up. Its for controller settings.
I just acclimated quickly enough to handle what little jank there is to it though.

>>11144497
>Current wrappers are demanding.
Yeah. I still remember how Diablo 2 remaster burned people's 30xx videocards on release because it's an unoptimized piece of shit. My 3080Ti was screaming like crazy when I played it.

>>11144503
Funny thing, the game crashed when I got that message and It never showed up again. So I guess I got lucky...?

>>11144505
>I just acclimated quickly enough to handle what little jank there is to it though.
"little jank"
Anon, the games input capture is completely fucked and inconsistent. It's like if Mario jumped at random heights. It's not "little" this is a colossal fuck up on something so basic.

>>11144512
Well I don’t notice it that much.
Maybe that’s the true power of UV Maxing Sunlust two and a half years ago now.

>>11144421
The funniest thing about Q1 Kex is it adopted Copper's Nightmare difficulty since Copper is pretty popular for mappers, but then Copper went out of its way to revamp its own Nightmare difficulty to be really fun and not just about halving your health in its latest versions. Get mogged Kex.

>>11144517
If you're so bad you can't tell when your mouse sensitivity is randomly being adjusted, then I doubt you've finished even Doom 2 on ITYTD.

>>11144518
>Copper's Nightmare difficulty
Haven't actually tried this. I used to play Quake so much I remembered everything on every single map and had no issues but now after couple of decades there are maps and areas which cause ass pain and quickload key tension.

>>11144523
Copper's new Nightmare is really challenging and refreshing as someone who exclusively plays everything Quake on Nightmare. Give it a whirl sometime.

I have not bought this port, as some other anon said, I'm not target audience, but I've noticed:
- Weird weapon switch. I don't know, it feels weird, I think something's happening with the frames count
- Input being completely fucked up, like the above anon noticed as well
- Bethesda account required to go online
- The mod menu completely fucked, filled with garbage

Are these the enhancements? I don't understand why anyone would want to buy/play this. Are you a mod player? Gzdoom. Are you anyone else? Dozens of ports.
If you are a casual player, chances are you already have the Unity port.

My guess? Expect PAID WADS THAT ONLY WORK WITH THE NEW ID24 STANDARD AND WON'T BE ABLE TO BE PLAYED ANYWHERE ELSE.

>>11144534
>My guess? Expect PAID WADS THAT ONLY WORK WITH THE NEW ID24 STANDARD AND WON'T BE ABLE TO BE PLAYED ANYWHERE ELSE.
Won't surprise me with how Bethesda operates these days, they really love their back door paid modding crap by making it cost pretend money you have to buy for real money.

>>11144534
So far id24 adds fucknothing of substance, so it would be hard for them to do exclusives. Besides, who the fuck would pay for something that was 100% free for 30 years?

>>11144534
>>11144536
They didn't do it for Quake

>>11144542
>They didn't do it for Quake
Then I fail to see what's the point of this port. We all know they're not into charity. Everyone who wanted to play Doom was already playing Doom and was quite happy with it.

>>11144534
Doesn't ID24 work with some source ports already?

>>11144541
>Besides, who the fuck would pay for something that was 100% free for 30 years?
I don't know how to break it to you anon

>>11144548
For the most part, but adding slots 8 and 9 and a new ammo type would be trivial for other ports.

If any anons are going after the punching cheevos, assuming you're serious about playing through this port, keep in mind that they seem to reset after each death.
Got the creeping feeling that goes for the chainsaw too.

>>11144542
Quake's a much higher bar for entry compared to Doom, which could basically operate as a content mill on top of having decades of shit to dump into it.

>>11144549
It's funny when you spot the anons who just showed up one day and pirated it from the OP, not knowing it's never really stopped being on sale in one form or another for the entire time.

>>11144547
Probably some Microsoft requirement since it's been 3 and a half years since the last Doom release.

>>11144547
It's for the casuals. They are the majority. Not you.
Casuals not going to go to some website, not going to navigate through some cryptic pages, not going to click some "link" to download some incomprehensible "zip" file, not going to do anything with it because they don't know what it is, and definitely not going to repeat the same process but with x10 more jumps and hoops to install some mods.
But they will click on the huge "install/play" button in Steam because their favorite youtuber told them about ebin "Doom" game ancient caveman played when they out of rocks, and they will click on some "funney mod hehe nigga deez nuts.wad" in in-game mods browser because it's easy and can be done with a gamepad. Come out of your basement anon.

>>11144560
My point is: didn't these people already own the Unity port? The new version is free if you already owned the previous ones, isn't it?

>>11144561
This is effectively an update replacing the unity port

>>11144565
So am I to believe they're all gone charity now, spending resources to gain nothing in return? I just hope the new paid wads will be ripped off and made available for others

>>11144547
>the point of this port
PR move as part of the run-up to Doom The Dark Ages launch.

Seems like it's also tightening the control over the game too.

>>11144561
Well yeah. My guess is they're moving everything to KEX engine so they could easily maintain it, but no idea why why would they need it (except to fuck the customers later as you said).
Also maybe they just wanted to move from Unity engine. The whole "runtime fee" fiasco was less than a year ago. They backpedaled but no one trusts them anymore, rightfully so.

>>11144572
>Doom The Dark Ages
I had forgotten about that. Well, now it all makes sense.

>>11143882

>>11144576
Next OP image.

>>11144568
>I just hope the new paid wads will be ripped off and made available for others
Considering the first time I played NRFTL was from a pirated NERVE.wad, I'm sure they will.
I expect the id24 standard to be patched into source ports within the following month, if only for full support for Legacy of Rust.

>>11144572
Does the new WAD tie in to the Dark ages like the new D64 levels did to Eternal?

>>11144560
This, most of those fucks wouldn't even tolerate dragging and dropping wads onto something like GzDoom, let alone getting something like ZDL to organize shit with.

Of course the irony here is a lot of these types are the ones who'd try to play MyHouse from seeing their favourite eceleb jump that bandwagon but can't because no ZScript.

>>11144314
Seconded. I'll just wait until source ports can run ID24. I wonder who will do it first, Kraflab with DSDA-Doom or Fabian and Graf with PrBoom.

>>11144582
Someone really should upload /pol/.wad or HFFM renamed to MyHouse and with replaced TITLEPIC before the whole circus got shut down.

>>11144579
>I expect the id24 standard to be patched into source ports within the following month, if only for full support for Legacy of Rust.
It's at least more likely to get full support that the re-released Strife, which only got partial support for it's added stuff in a handful of engines, Graf especially didn't consider it worth his time to have the added stuff and anti-softlock feature.

>>11144583
Quality post. Best itt so far.

>>11144580
Doom 64 ties into the new series.

>>11144553
>it's never really stopped being on sale in one form or another for the entire time
I remember one day in the mid-to-late 2000's I got the urge to play Doom so I bought it again for a few bucks, but it was in DOS and I didn't know about source ports or how to remap the keys to WASD so I wasted my money and was angry

>>11144583
My money's on DSDA, there's a little more of an impetus for getting at least the gameplay-affecting shit working in that since people would want to speedrun it properly.

>>11144552
>Got the creeping feeling that goes for the chainsaw too.
Correction, it doesn't seem to be counting at all.

so they only have made a new map standard so that people can't play their WAD outside of their commercial engine? Fucking atrocious

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doom_doomii/all?sort=POPULAR

The licensed content thing is going to be an issue, especially if it brings the attention of more shitters like Nintendo to Doom mods, we really don't need another Viacom DMCA shitshow.

>>11144534
This replaces the unity ports doofus.
It's for console players more than anything

how is Doom + Doom 2? I got it for free cause I already own Doom 2 in gog. How does it compare to crispy Doom?

Oh damn, guess I can't play those hot new maps, how I will recover?

>>11144623
What the fuck, I checked my GOG account a few hours ago >>11144265 and it said it didn't have it, I checked again a moment ago and now I have it AND Doom 1 on my account
Those poles are alright

>>11144627
I mean, I got it off a very helpful anon who posted a link to it in the last thread. I didn't thoroughly look at and test everything but it seemed to be working ok on DSDA and Nugget. I barely got to E1M2 but I like what I saw so far. E1M1 clearly has some alpha/beta elements to it and I really love it.

>>11144265
you need the bethesda account only for mods

>>11144641
Yeah I'm still probably gonna check it out, I don't really care
It's neat that GOG did that though

>>11144639
It's mostly MBF21, the id24 stuff is for separation of the fuel weapons from the cell ones, some intermission stuff, some skybox stuff, a few other things too.

Sounds like Xaser's the one who's been in charge of it and he says they're going to post documentation at some point so the other ports shouldn't have too bad a time integrating it.

>>11144623
As far as I'm playing I'd stick with Crispy, not sure if the Doom Combo Order has phased it out entirely but I like using the arrow keys to look around. Also, assuming anyone was a goober like me and bought old games on Steam, there does seem to be some possible issues with cheevos if you feel obliged to go after those.
Don't know about style points, here's a screenshot.

>>11144641
Yeah I'm still probably not gonna check it out, I don't really care about the new wad
It's neat that they did that though

>>11144647
Yeah, was checking Doomworld just now. What a guy, that Xaser.

I might have gotten into Doom through gameplay mods but man, seeing MBF21 + Decohack being used for an official new episode is such a cool thing to happen. GZDoom might be where a lot of people start dooming but more classic-oriented stuff like Boom and MBF21 is where I found out just how much I love this damn game.

Somewhat related, is there a Decohack tutorial somewhere? I'm basically a retard when it comes to coding but I'd like to make some mods with it.

>>11144653
>GZDoom might be where a lot of people start dooming but more classic-oriented stuff like Boom and MBF21 is where I found out just how much I love this damn game.
It's been neat seeing a lot of people decide to have a try at Boom or MBF21, even a fair few of the ones who are experienced at getting stuff out of Decorate/ACS/Zscript seemed to have given it a go.

I wonder how easy would it be to just export Doom 3's maps to Doom Eternal.

>>11144647
>the id24 stuff is for separation of the fuel weapons from the cell ones
Which is weird, because the menu doesn't even allow you to bind slots 8 and 9, and the two guns in the new episodes are bound to 6 and 7.

>>11144423
A bit impatient if modders don’t port it in like 8 hours I may install n play.

I enjoyed & finished doom64 recently, this new port can’t be that bad right. I need scratch that itch

>>11144423
What kind of cosmetic stuff? I'm only 4 maps in, but I haven't really seen anything that can't be done in the current MBF21.

>>11144605
I'd like to hear what the fuck is the guy uploading Mario Doom thinking, things like these tend to ruin it for everyone.

>>11144662
Same here. I got some of my friends to hop on the Boom/MBF21 train with me and it's been quite nice since. I have some ideas for partial conversions (or who knows, maybe full ones) that *can* be achieved with Decorate and ACS, but I don't particularly care tp stoke GZ's fire if I can help it.

Not sure if this can be said of all my projects, but I do like making stuff that'll get people to stop worrying about playing with mods. Making a map that's entirely balanced around itself and not accounting for whatever Brutal Doom fork some dumbfuck will inevitably try to run it with while offering fresh gameplay and visuals is just refreshing.

>>11144671
Might be some fuckery going with weapon selection inherited from Boom, I think. Slots 8 and 9 are reserved for the chainsaw and super shotgun, while 0 is (I think) your best weapon.

>>11144679
It has a custom intermission map if you play it in the new port, other than that I'm not sure.

>>11144685
I thought that stuff was already doable with UMAPINFO.

>>11144679
Some skybox stuff, some statusbar stuff, some intermission stuff, I think there's something else as well.
>>11144681
It's almost all people being fucking idiots, there's at least three uploads of Scythe 2 and none of them are Erik Alm, and it's a similar thing for the entire thing, just random fuckwits uploading whatever mods they have to hand.

>>11144690
What skybox stuff?

So regarding Legacy of Rust should I
a) play it now in the new port?
b) play it now in DSDA?
c) wait for DSDA to add support for id24?

Is it true the weapons are on different slots? Do they give you both new and old weapons on same map?

>DOOM + DOOM 2
Is that really the best they could come up with? It's not even accurate.

>>11144696
In Legacy of Rust, the new guns replace the BFG and plasma. It seems that if you play any wad in ID24(or anything without a complevel lump), you'll have access to the extra slots.

>>11144696
A) If you care
B) It seems to work fine in DSDA, I haven't found anything gamebreaking yet
C) Might take a while

The new weapons are on slots 6 and 7 and, for the moment, seem to overwrite the plasma rifle and BFG9000

>>11144690
??? do you also expect for 60year old dudes to upload their 90s wads?

>>11144704
>replace
ok, guess I'll play it now in DSDA then, don't really care about some minor cosmetic stuff

>>11144706
thanks

>>11144708
Yes.

>>11144696
>Do they give you both new and old weapons on same map?
My understanding is that in the SP maps, they're plasma and BFG replacements, but in the deathmatch maps you can get both and the new ones are on slots 8 and 9. The wad should be fully playable in any MBF21 port, id24's additions seem to be mainly cosmetic, stuff like a custom statusbar, something about skies, and custom intermission screens.

>>11144708
Not that guy but if is a mod is big enough, I would check if the author is still active, I rather see him do himself, 1) because he deserves to be seen 2) If there is any incompatibility he would be more likely to fix it than a random chucklefuck.

>>11144717
>muh pro authors
anon from last thread was right

>>11144717
why won't erik alm come back to upload scythe 2 himself bros?

>>11144717
Yeah this shit has happened with other crap on Bethesda's system, makes it impossible for mod authors to update stuff since they end up with eight versions of their mod on there.

Maybe ID should have contacted the major mod authors, give them access and then gradually open it?
Free for all is ripe for abuse.

>>11144728
>Free for all is ripe for abuse.
It's funny cause they pulled down a couple Imp Encounters already but the huge gaping vagina the size of a hallway is still up there.

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doom_doomii/details/11d1da1c-3f26-481b-b29f-ca71b5bba475/Kama_Sutra

>install it on PC gamepass
>1 Gb
Why? I randomly checked my Doom folder and despite having Hexen,strife,Chex and a couple of mods is still under 500 Mb.

>>11144732
Wonder if anyone tried to upload Hdoom.

what is even the difference between woof, crispy and nugget? On a surface level all i can notice is that crispy is lower res

>>11144735
>Wonder if anyone tried to upload Hdoom.
Probably, other ZDoom mods have been uploaded and one anon did threaten to upload their dehacked version of it.

>>11144736
Woof is MBF-based, Crispy is Chocolate-based, Nugget is Woof-based with some stuff from DSDA and Crispy.

>>11144735
>Why?
Uncompressed audio files for the Hulshult soundtrack.

>>11144736
The big one between the three would be that Crispy doesn't have Boom/MBF21 support. It can only play vanilla and limit removing maps. Woof or Nugget is pretty much up to personal preference.

>>11144736
Nugget is a fork of Woof with more visual features.

>>11144753
I prefer Smelly Nugget Doom.

>>11144748
Oh right, that would make sense, I am enjoying it quite a lot.
Havent played the Eternal DLC so I dont know about his work there but I am happy here.

I wish I didnt have to think that Mick Gordon wont be involved ever again.

>>11144765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGK1dr-Ql0w
They're just covers. The Doom 1 side was already done a decade ago.

>>11144742
so just some subtle shit only modders/vets can fully appreciate, okay.
>>11144750
>>11144753
Woof has become my main port, no need to change that than, ty

>>11144779
Does Woof support Brutal Doom?

>>11144779
Nugget is way bettet than Woof.

>>11144785
Brutal Doom can only be played on GZDoom. Play Boiled Doom instead.

>>11144785
No, it uses the more expanded Decorate and ACS so it'll only run on Zandronum-based stuff and ZDoom-based stuff.

>>11144785

>>11144521
No it’s because recoding a demo restricts the hell out of the smoothness of the mouse movement.
I’m used to mouse movements being fucked because of it.

>>11142852
Using this opportunity to shill this soundfont I use
I modified an existing sc55 soundfont I found online to make the drums sound less midi and fake, it makes a huge difference for me and I think it sounds 1000x better.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14j_ExSr5ynC06BigAkNfVX1x7QeWBZCV/view?usp=sharing

here's a demo (I've actually changed it slightly since this video, I edited the snare and added new samples to the bass drums so it's not exactly the same but it should give you an idea of what to expect)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwKkbX3xx6k [Embed]

>>11144009
if what I read on doomworld is correct, the cosmetic shit is just the new intermission screen maps like in doom 1.

>>11144521
Also yeah you're also right about DOOM 2 I never actually beat it because it's a shit game.

>>11144681
they just want the attention of having popular wads on their profile. that's literally all it is. they're subhuman in terms of intelligence.

>>11144818
New samples have too little decay and come out bit too harsh overtaking the other instruments. It's close though.

Paril confirmed on Discord that they Hired Ethan and XASER and they are working on spec documentation
So this new re-release has people from the community working on it, and since Edward is from Doomworld

>>11144447
>crosshair is off-center
welp, that's bethesda for you

>>11144552
Some achievements are broken like "get 100% kills without getting damaged on UV"

Uh oh, anyone else has troubles finding servers right now?

I fucking despise Andrew hulshult music, it's unreal. they could have made a remastered soundtrack in the same style as 3DO Doom. what a waste of potential but good for nudoomfaggots I guess.

In this new cashgrab, where are the keyboard only controls? Why can't I set the turning manually?

>>11144702
Doom Classic would have sufficed I think

Legacy of the Rust is just another Xaser/Kaiser tedium, it has no canonic feel.

>>11144857
That one works, apparently the chainsaw one only works in Doom II for some reason.

>>11144870
>I fucking despise Andrew hulshult music
Why?

>>11144870
why do you have to make it about nudoom

I see that this thread is now infested with /v/ tourists spewing buzzwords.
Also if some of your wads doesnt work, check if there isn't new acs or some shit in it that works only on GZD, people are having issues because of fucking GZD code in their wads

>>11144879
Are you a pajeet tranny?

>>11144875
>That one works
Well shit... I completed E1M1 on UV with and without saves and no damage, it didn't trigger for me. The other one with just getting 100% kills did though...

>>11144879
>infested with /v/ tourists spewing buzzwords.
Seriously why is it a common occurrence with this general. It happens every fucking time anything DOOM related is revealed.

>>11144885
I think that one is a bit wonky. I did E1M1 UV, saved and reloaded any time I took damage, finished the map with 100% kills, secrets and items, and I didn't get the no damage achievement
But later after closing and reopening the game I reloaded my last save just before the exit switch, triggered the exit and the achievement popped

>>11144870
It's getting real fucking tiring that his music gets used in absolutely fucking everything, most of the time shit sounds the same so nothing ends up being distinctive.

>>11144889
Just shows how important original dooms are

>>11144889
>>11144879
ironic how you don't see YOU are the newbies here

>>11144329
you don't need a bethesda.net account dumbass

>>11144870
Yeah, it feels like the dude made a whole soundtrack for Brutal Doom than Doom

>>11144904
No, it shows that retards who doesn't play videogames comes here to spew buzzwords about games they never played and larp as oldfags.
Alf/Dwterminator is unbanned too so you can guess who is with the tourists too riling these shitposts and posting off topic shit like this cum gargling moron >>11144906

Also, has someone tested Icarus and NeoDoom in it?
Doomworld made the favor to erase the page with the classic and most memorable doom TC wads

>>11144878
because those kind of "people" like that shitty music.

>>11144916
Hulshult music is the same original tracks with more instruments

Playing through Auger Zenith for the first time on my big screen TV and holy fuck bros its so beautiful. I am so happy with this console update.

Nobody is coming here to larp playing your boomer games, lil bro.

I have the game on PS5 and mods that have been taken down are still in my mod list and playable. So as long as you never delete the game, they can’t take them away.

>>11144870
Fuck you. I love this shit, especially On The Hunt and The Demons in Adrian's Pen. I prefer MIDIs for actual Dooming but I listened to the album years ago and enjoyed it.

Am I going crazy or does going into exclusive fullscreen fix the mouse issues? What an amateur port, it defaults to controller prompts even though I have no controller plugged in(it does change to keyboard prompts when you start using it though)

>>11144941
For the love of Christ, remove the special accessibility font if you want to shitpost

>>11144702
They could've called it Doom: Legacy or Origins at least

>>11144946
Neither have the devs, look at this shit, out of fucking bounds man.

It's nice how this general is moving fast, but it sucks that the new port has just attracted /v/ shitposters. Oh well, everyone will be bored of this port soon enough anyway. Anyone who sticks around from being introduced to the game this way will be interested in playing the good wads and the new player retention cycle will continue.

Someone should tell the Project Malice guys that 48 is way too much Radius for Arachnotrons.

just tried playing the new episode in GZdoom. Got through the first level fine, but am I supposed to be randomly taking damage at the end of map 1 and the start of map 2? there's like mini green explosions or particle flashes and they damage you, is this intended or some kind of bug? very odd.

>>11144962
The best part (for me) is seeing all the unused graphics. Full rotations for stuff like the imp and mancubus pain sprites has finally soothed my OCD. I'm betting that the Sprite Fixing Project thread will get a big kick in activity sooner or later.

>>11144978
Doom Delta is also going to make great use of the new old assets like polished old huds.

>>11143885
>https://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/map-center-quake-retrojam-1
retro jam 1 is out

>>11144983 (me)
Interesting that they only put it on moddb. Has there been another schism? I would expect it to at least end up on either quaddicted or slipseer too.

>>11144857
weird, I just got it in E3M1

>>11144854
oh fuck me you're right

>>11144854

>>11144854
the shotgun sprite is the one off-center actually, unless they fixed that

What maps have the secret exits in Legacy of Rust? Don't wanna miss em.

>>11144541
>Besides, who the fuck would pay for something that was 100% free for 30 years?
The kind of people who did more than merely acknowledge the existence of that new port.

>>11144983
Thanks for the headsup, been meaning to play more Quake again.

I’m trying to get 64doom to work. Compiled a ROM but it doesn’t run. >>11144160

I love the sound those new enemies make in the new episode. So far Im liking their design, heavy hitting with low health. Anybody have any other lesser known mod recs that work on console? I have played many GZdoom mods on my PC but its nice playing on a big tv.

>>11144991
Quaddicted is still under construction

>>11145053
Just use Doom 64 re-release like a normal human bean.

>>11144568
They ain't making paid wads there is no money in that, this is because the new Doom game and to have releases on PS5 and whatever the fuck the newer Xbox is named.

im not getting the psx fire sky in dsdadoom, is it exclusive to the KEK engine?

>>11145095
I assume it's defined in new SKYDEFS lump which is part of a new id24 standard.

Here you go
https://www.gog-games.to/game/doom_1993_doom_ii

>>11144605
The game eula states that they will remove addons if the Copyright holder requests it.

>>11144913
You do, if you want to use the mod browser.

Unity lost

>>11145128
I downloaded Sunlust and I didn’t need an account.
Unless Steam remember my Bethesda account or something and signed me in without me knowing.

>>11145119


thanks my dude

>>11145146
It does.

>>11145154
Can you tell me how to sign out of it when I get back to my PC later then

>>11143991
>>11144010
Well, I think it's easier to use brush-based maps simply because it's faster to do any changes, but takes more time to create a map. If it's a 3d model, it would take too long to create a map.

>>11144276
At least it's not snapmap levels of stupid simplicity.
Would be neat to be able to add/change weapons, enemies and other stuff, but I doubt that'll happen

>>11144309
I'm just playing a wad, not the whole shit.
I dunno if I can turn it off

>>11144336
>>11144330
I've heard that it's still being used on modern Id, and that other companies has the same technology but with other name.

Rank the official ports

>>11145176
Everything else >>>> kek'd engine

>snes doom re-release
>not psx doom
Sony bros...

>>11145176
F, all of them.

I'm sure this is a topic that's been done to death here but: general consensus ever happen on best soundfont(s)?

>>11145176
it's okay/10
The best parts of the update are the sprites, music, and LOR.

Need some Quake in Half Life conversions and viceversa.

Dooooo Hitler doom?!? Haha naw this shi crazeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>11145205
Nuked SC-55 > any soundfont
Some anons, me including, preferred EmperorGrieferus version. But I stopped using it once Nuked emulator got released, even its author said he won't be making any updates because there's no point when emulator exists.

>>11145227
redpill me on this?

>>11145176
More broken than gzdoom

>>11145164
Too late. They have everything. Know everything. You cannot hide.

>>11145229
Nothing to redpill about. It's more accurate than any soundfont, and sounds much more "deep" and expressive.
Also supports few other models, not only SC-55.
A little pain in the ass to get it running, but it's worth it.
https://github.com/nukeykt/Nuked-SC55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Z5y2otJqY&t=176s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5yfu_J60U

where can I access the new releases remix soundtrack?
I dont think the doom2 recordings are on jewtube yet.
are they accessible on the files somehow?
I really dig map 8 and 14 tracks

>>11145262
extras.wad has them all in ogg format.
Also it should be on spotify.

>>11145262
extras.wad

>>11145268
>>11145274
thanks

>>11145268
>>11145274
any chance of either of you two gentlemen catboxing this?

>>11145292
No. But you can stop being a lazy consumer and scroll the thread, there might be something.

>>11144343
>do we know why bethesda bundled sigil 1 in their latest cashgrab but not sigil 2?
who knows, it's one of the official featured mods so I guess they just didn't want it cluttering up the main menu.

>>11145276
https://files.catbox.moe/sw7bh1.ogg

I love the map8 remix track

>>11145128
you don't need it to play the game

>>11145262
https://youtu.be/jGdEF9U5zJc?si=WpWY7mvijLmqHbOI

GZdoom brothers, I was reading the previous thread and someone mentioned the compatibility option for the projectiles passing through decorations.
Do you have it active? Would you advice activating it? I mostly play vanilla wads anyway, no mods at all other than Corruption Cards and Final Doomer once in a while

>>11144298
>>11144307
Go back to /v/ with your disingenuous shitposts

Speaking of compatibility.
Why the hell do we still have to set complevels manually?
I understand there's no other way for billions of old wads, but why wasn't something like this added to MBF21 or ID24? So the wad could force the complevel for itself and you didn't have to change it manually every damn time.

>>11144323
>>11144339
Nintendo has a hateboner for people modding their own games, there was no chance they'd let you play HFFM on a Switch.

>>11144009
In terms of non-cosmetic stuff, playing the WAD on an MBF21 sourceport removes the Plasma Gun and BFG to make room for the new weapons

>>11145369

>Pressing use/fire to restart a map like a normal person would forces you to pistol start
Oh...
thanks...

>>11145170
I thought snap map was neat, but it should've been released alongside oroper mapping tools.

>>11145170
>Would be neat to be able to add/change weapons, enemies and other stuff
You can.

>>11144343
Sigil ii wasn't as good. Might be all it is.
It was aight tho. Just kinda fine.

>>11145379
You can download it, but it won’t even boot.

>>11144343
Because it would draw attention away from LOR.
You’ll get it later for the source port officially by ID.

>>11144298
at least is not comic sans

For the love of christ just report the retarded baitposters posting low quality shit to derail this thread, these fags are shitting both /v/ and /vr/ thread due to literal asspain about got knows why?
Also Daniel's wads works on this release as all of the 10 years of doom stuff at doomworld
Doom64 Into Classic Doom works too as Foursite

Where the hell can I download Copper for Quake? Specifcally 1.30, everywhere else I looked is 404'd.

>>11145403
Because DOOM Eternal mind broke them and its ID’s fault, so anything they do since is bad.
Someone once said that during their mental development, people might get extremely attached to something and end up being self-destructive about it. In this case for a lot of zoomers, DE was so unfair to them that they’ll now dedicate the rest of their lives to shitting on ID. I also personally blame autism for magnifying this issue even more.

>>11145405
http://lunaran.com/copper/download/
direct link:
http://lunaran.com/files/copper_v1_30.zip

So what is the consensus on Legacy of Rust?

How do I play doo?

what happens if one tries to upload the moonman mod into the new ingame mod browser?

>>11145419
I'm on map 5 now. 2 sucked, the rest have been fun.

>>11145421
Won't work, it's a GZDoom mod

>>11145417
>http://lunaran.com/files/copper_v1_30.zip
Weird, it worked now. Many thanks.

>>11145421
Either nothing (it's gonna crash since it's a ZDoom thing) or Bethesda shuts everything down.

>can't run it
It's over :(

>>11145419
I enjoy it but I’m on map six currently.
Not sure what I feel about the arachno minigunner and Marine Zombies. It feels like a swap made for development lore reasons instead of being fully realized in gameplay.

>wolfenstein maps and medkits still censored
Sad

>>11144991
Map Center only uploads to Moddb, but Dumptruck is also staff there so read into that what you will.

>>11145421
GZDOOM maps doesn't work on the new port it has to be BOOM friendly

>>11145451
Blame Red Cross and Germany for that

Everywhere I go, I see his face...

Anyone else playing deathmatch? My first time trying it out and holy shit it's fun.

>>11144407
I felt like something was wrong when I tried the official port, so I put it side by side with my regular port (Nugget Doom). There's less friction when you move around. It's harder to stop or change direction while you're moving in the new engine. It's like being on an ice level in Mario World.

Can't wait for the next port in 5 years kek

So I played Cliffside Combat, and found it to be a lot of fun.
I also found that you could fall off the left near the end to the BFG and softlock yourself, so i am forced to give this shitwad the WORST score of all!

A B minus MINUS!

>>11145469
>left
*lift.
Anyway it was a nice little Doom session. I like small easyish maps like that and it had a section where I could go nuts with a rocket launcher on some Imps.

>>11145465
I think it’s because you’re running at SR50 in Kex’s port instead of SR40 in any other port.
I noticed it right away when trying God Machine from Sunlust because I failed to record a demo so many times that the five minutes is ingrained to my mind. I could tell I was moving waaaay faster in kex’s port simply by being able to get to the doors and gates faster.

>>11145420
>doo
More like duh kek

>>11145469
>A B minus MINUS!
Anon no!

>>11143885
MAP Center released what people where asking for
A up to date Quake II Re-Release Mapping tutorial for newbs and /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2bFcL32lUE

>>11145503
Finally

>>11145176
Doom95 > the rest

>>11145134
who the fuck is gonna defend unity

How do I unsubscribe from a removed mod? Imp Encounter is in my list and playable with no way of removing from my mod list.

Here you are, anons, five of my Doom maps. https://files.catbox.moe/1u3ymp.wad

Use MBF21 if you care for that nonsense.

03 and 04 are kinda old, 03 never got released and 04 did but it's a bit crusty in spots. I also changed 04's midi for something I like better.

01 and 02 are for a community project I kinda left behind because co-op is required and making a lock-in fight that works with 4 people in a 1024 map is a fuck.

05's a stopper.

Let me know what you think, I hope you guys like it.

Fuck I mean complevel 21 but I think you guys understood it. I haven't been getting enough sleep lately

>>11145554
dinnerdinner? cool

>>11145561
Not everyone who uses slimefalls is him anon

>>11145561
This was before I got into 10x10 lol

Picrel: my first attempt at 10x10, unfinished because working with mostly just 10 textures and 10 flats melted my brain good

I think so at least, I don't know how MtPain27 is seen around these parts but his channel has helped me learn a lot about mapping

>>11145572
I was right.

>>11144753
Rewind and autosaves don't sound so visual, to name a few.

>>11145584
I forgot about those because I don't use them.

>>11145584
Rewind is from DSDA I think, it's intended for expediting practing speedrunning stuff.
Of course, it can be abused as a cheat, but you can already type in stuff like IDDQD.

>>11145451
Green crosses are now used ad nauseum in the medical industry, so it's less weird than it used to be. What was Wolfenstein replaced with?

>>11144786
Can't trust the fork developers to handle the live base code with due care, not the ones with a feature creep tendency. The one noteworthy exception is NotBlood project. If I needed a rewind feature, then I would've used DSDA, or ZDoom for about anything else Nugget dev has took his code from.

>>11144343
It's probably a really boring reason like not making it in time for QA testing.

>>11145617

duke nukem but he's a chivalrous crusader
>Hark! Mine testicular firmament is of fortified iron.

>>11145617
NTA but he was referring to the changed wall textures.

>>11145638
I'll never understand this. It wasn't glorifying Hitler, any more than the pentagrams and sacrifices were glorifying Hell, so why censor the Nazi shit outside of Germany where they'll understandably be embarrassed?

>>11145638
Sunglasses hitler is the kind of cheeky censorship I would expect from Id but they always go for the most boring alternatives imaginable instead.
I don't know why they have to censor to begin with outside of select countries, no human has problems with killing nazis anyway

>>11145656
I've had a German friend explain it to me once. Basically, they don't want neo Nazi groups to load up a game with a swastika and have it shown on screen.

>>11145659
That makes zero sense. You're shooting them, not joining them.

>>11145663
Once you're done shooting them, you're safe to just look at a portrait of Hitler. I still think it's stupid, but I see the reasoning. Germany is deathly afraid of letting that happen again.

>>11145656
>any more than the pentagrams and sacrifices
You know why

>>11145670
It's an amusing notion, that just the exposure to the imagery itself will light that ubernationalistic fire again.

>>11145675
It's not that, they don't want nationalistic groups to use them as makeshift banners.

Valiant worked yesterday, now no uploaded version is working.

it looks so cute guys

>>11145676
As if they can't use other things as their symbols, like Pitbull Syndicate's logo.

>sigil and legacy of rust are official
Cringe

I’m getting tired of having to delete and redownload my whole game every time a mod that doesn’t work gets removed, since I can’t unsubscribe from a delisted mod any other way than a full purge.

>>11145598
Rewind is more like a periodic quicksave, if you're a savescummer kind of guy.
>>11145624
>ZDoom for about anything else Nugget dev has took his code from.
According to the Nugget readme, the only ZDoom code in it is for "bobbing styles." A lot of the stuff from other ports, ZDoom and otherwise, is coded from scratch.

Legacy of Rust is better balanced than Sigil 2

Once it's (heavily) polished, the one niche this port can fill is quick, multiplatform multiplayer. It just needs the ability to host custom wads.

>>11145684
Vassago-chan just wants to warm you up

>>11145205
Jimmy himself uploaded his Sigil album to bandcamp using the RLNDGM soundfont. Remember that MIDI composers have to make their MIDIs for the default Windows settings since that is what most people use by far, and using soundfonts is like playing with gameplay mods. RLNDGM is basically the default Windows soundfont but improved, so to avoid constantly switching soundfonts, I just stick to that.

I read on the moddb website that Valiant sounds very good with the Arachno soundfont. I tried it out and I agree, which opened up to me the idea of using specific soundfonts for specific WADS, but so far that's the only combo I'm aware of.

Musyng Kite and Orpheus are some nice high quality soundfonts to play with. There is also an SC-55 soundfont that sounds almost exactly like the music packs ( http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#doom ) but sadly I don't know which version it is, since I just use the music packs if playing the original game instead of using soundfonts

>>11145706
Interesting kinks that they're working out here. I wonder if they have a long term plan with this.
I've kinda abstained from subscribing to anything that is more or less a sure thing.
They're going to have to start banning wads based on md5 or some lump checks or something.

>>11145684
thats a centuar right...

does it have you know...

>>11145695
Whatever. Not even bovvered.

>>11145323
Oh, shit. I listened to IDKFA years and years ago but this was uploaded less than 24 hours ago.

>>11145735
Yeah, the whole mod system in this port is pretty broken. Valiant and Vanguard both worked and now Valiant won’t load and Vanguard hard crashes the game.

>>11144156
Which is more super shotgun worthy?
Genesis-12 or Saiga-12

That scene from wick 4 made me want to add dragon rounds.

>>11145365
Just play on the modern default, MBF21. There's no need to switch, except for some niche cases like that one map on Sunlust that requires Boom's item dropping off ledges, or if you want to limit lost soul spawns, or if you're speedrunning but in which case you wouldn't be complaining.

>>11145684
>>11145730

>>11145761
beautiful

>>11145753
It's just introducing a new generation to terry wads.

>>11145753
>now Valiant won’t load and Vanguard hard crashes the game.
It's happening to me too.

>>11144447
Try playing Doom without crosshairs (the original way). Some anon recommended it to me and I never went back. I even play Quake without them

>>11144421
NOW THIS
This is how you spot the contrarian tourist fag who NEVER and ever played any retro fps games at all and comes here to parrots and post buzzwords to derail the thread.
If this faggot isn't a Ai chatbot idk what else is for being such a huge dicklet faggot

>>11145786
I don't see how that addresses his problem.

>>11144447
Doom 95 outright did not have working mouse input at all on Windows 2000, XP, and beyond.

I can't use soundfonts in the new port, nor can I change the HUD with +/-

Anyone has the Thorr soundtrack for Sigil II? Never see it floating around here...

>>11145809
The problem doesn't exist though. All the weapons are slightly offset in doom

>>11145014
map02 and idk

>>11145786
To be fair, you always have a centered weapon (unless you scr_ofs) always telling you the X-axis of the screen, a lot of Quake baddies have fat hitboxes, and a lot of combat is pretty in-your-face. Still feels good though.
>>11145798
Holy shit, Boromir.

>>11145842
The problem isn't the weapon offset, it's the mouse input in the new port being inconsistent.
He's running an input script and getting different results.

>>11145761
Would, she's cute.

Why are a lot of you so excited about the "new features"?
>New weapons, intermission screens, minor cosmetic changes
Weren't these already possible in zDoom or with some hard work in Dehacked? Or is it a big deal because it's now "official"? Whatever that means with this game
I don't see the appeal of this new format. Was it really needed?

>>11145863
Extra weapon slots and ammo types were not possible.

>>11145863
professional polish

>>11145798
Why are you so angry? I'm most likely older than you. You don't know anything about me.

>>11145857
its fucking incredible how no one is talking about this, I fucking realized that something was wrong immediately. The controls feel so floaty. I dont have great aim but even I could see that the aiming is inconsistent.

>>11145875
I talked about it yesterday and I either got over it or LOR uses something different from DOOM 1 for input

>>11143882
Millenial fps

>>11145863
>Weren't these already possible in zDoom
Yes.
>Was it really needed?
No. Most modern scripting standards are superfluous, but for whatever reason nobody seems willing to implement ZScript anywhere other than the ZDoom family.

>>11145659
>Basically, they don't want neo Nazi groups to load up a game with a swastika and have it shown on screen.
No idea if he actually explained it to you like that or if you misunderstood, but that's retarded.
The real reason is that swastikas are insignia of a forbidden organization and showing them in any context but "art" is forbidden, period. And only recently did they acknowledge games as "art", so you can finally get those WW2 shooters with proper symbols.
There even was a case where they busted some leftist merch store that sold crossed out/smashed swastika stickers because, well, they contained swastikas, even if the context was strictly antifascist.

>>11145885
>but for whatever reason nobody seems willing to implement ZScript anywhere other than the ZDoom family.
Probably because Bethesda being the retarded out-of-touch retards they are think with doing their own thing they can get a sweet share of whatever. Because launchers and storefronts and the like proved to be so successful in the past.

>>11145878
It feels kind of like shorttics, which would explain why it would be broken in Doom 1 but not the MBF21/id24 LoR.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Turning_resolution_is_lowered_when_recording_demos
If this is actually the issue, then the real quandary is why specifically a demo-recording limitation of the vanilla game would kick in during normal gameplay.

>>11145863
Clearly you're just another GZcuck. Let me lay it out for you: GZDoom is great, it lets you do a lot of shit that wouldn't be possible with the original game and that's great. That's more ways to enjoy Doom and that's definitely part of how this 30 year old game not only is still talked about, but also never goes out of style - there's always something to keep it fresh.

However, GZDoom is just not cut out for stuff with a lot of monsters, it demands modern graphic drivers from 2020 onwards, its renderer shits itself if the draw distance is too long, it renders every fucking thing on the game at once regardless of what you're looking at and only uses one of your CPU's cores. In other words: GZ is pretty and super flexible but it's also very high resource intensive, I recall people with great computers back in 2017 that couldn't get 60 FPS in Eviternity 1. Even with a strong machine by modern standards, GZ slows down to a crawl in big maps like Sunder map 15 and Hellbound map 29.

Beyond that, GZDoom has kinda been the newfag port for a while. It's what the vast majority of people who are new to Doom will use, in fact I'm willing to bet it's how a lot of people get into the game. That's my case.

*Not* having to rely on a port with shit optimization, a sea of settings no one will ever bother with and outright flawed compatibility configurations is good when you're a mapper who can't be bothered with UDMF, slopes, 3D floors (hold that thought), all that shit that makes Doom not look like Doom.

Yes, there's nothing MBF21 does that DECORATE or ZScript can't. But it also doesn't require a ZDoom port to function and opens up a whole lot of possibilities for what I'll call the mapping side of the community - the people who like making maps balanced around new weapons and such, not the people who go and make gameplay mods.

I'm biased and ready to die on the hill that GZDoom isn't even a Doom sourceport anymore. Running a 30 year old holds it back.

Is there a download for the Doom + Doom 2 engine? Mostly interested in the multiplayer but not interested in buying since I've bought both games at least 10 times in the past 3 decades