/vr/ - Retro Games

posting this from randnet

>>11113973
Been tempted to check out Duke Nukem 64, Hexen, and Quake after reading the other console ports are inferior. I know the music is missing but they do look a bit nicer on the N64 imo. Surprising as it usually seems to get inferior ports. Also need to check out the latest Smash Remix at some point

>>11113973
You probably already have it, but Animal Forest (w/ Eng translation) is a fun curiosity. Very similar to the GameCube game but it's missing kind of a lot like the museum.

What's the best N64 FPS?

>>11114013
I've heard good things about GoldenEye mostly but the Turok games look very fun too imo

>>11114003
>Quake
It's missing some levels from the original game and sometimes the framerate gets very bad (specially on E4) but its still playable and fun, I beat it this year on Hard and had a blast even when I was getting furious over those fucking Spawns
>Hexen
Not a bad port desu but needing an entire controller pak for one save sucks
>Duke64
One of my fav ways to play Duke3D, doesn't beat playing DN3D but it's still a great way to play it.
>>11114013
Hard to choose but I'll go with Turok 1.

SummerCart64 carts are appearing on Aliexpress, from what I checked they're better than ED64plus & Super64 (updated OS using N64FlashcartMenu with better compatibility and support for 64DD games and other things) while still being somewhat cheap ($60).

>>11114013
God Tier:
Duke Nukem 64

High Tier:
Doom 64
Turok

Good Tier:
Turok 2
Perfect Dark
Quake 2

Okay Tier:
Goldeneye
Turok 3

Low Tier:
Armorines - Project SWARM

Shit Tier:
South Park

Haven't played tier:
Hexen 64
Quake
The World is Not Enough

When I was 8 years old, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter gave me headaches and made me feel dizzy. This was strange because I used to play a lot of Starfox 64 and Goldeneye without any issues.

Turok had something about it that made me feel physically ill.

As an ESL learner, my father enrolled me in an English course during that summer. A few weeks later, I received Turok 2: Seeds of Evil as a birthday gift, and playing it felt… unique. I experienced the same side effects as with Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, but there was an additional eerie element: the phrase “Beware: Oblivion is at hand.”

That sentence haunted me when I was alone.

Would being forgotten be worse than dying? If I no longer breathe; no longer experience life, but there’s no record of my existence, who, how, or what could even confirm that I ever lived?

Will death be when I lose my breath and my heart stops beating... or when time itself has forgotten me? And if I am remembered: Will I live or will I be consumed by whoever at that moment is experiencing what I believe to be "living"? Am I living or just existing?

Few games have fucked my head like Turok 2. I don't know if it was because of my age or because I was learning the language at that time, I have no idea.

>>11114172
I'd be wary of those if I were you. Someone on N64brew ordered one and the seller tried hitting him with extra fees (one for 1 cent and another for $45). This was after it had already "shipped" (the seller claimed there was a problem with the order and it needed "reshipment"). Also, the carts are missing the button on the back and who knows what else. The price is really suspicious.

>>11114172
When you know the scam artist krikkz is charging 160 for an x7 as well it really puts things in to context. No doubt he has the entirety of plebit throwing money at him.

>>11114172
Do you still have to hit reset to save the games with this one?
its my main gripe with the super64, aside from it being ugly as fuck,

>>11114387
>Do you still have to hit reset to save the games with this one?
No. It automatically writes the save data to the SD card during gameplay. There's even a flashing indicator light. Way more seamless than the x7 which doesn't fully save until you boot into the menu again. Still pretty expensive, though ($124 + shipping from a proper seller like Phenom Mod).

>>11114435
It will eventually pop up for less on aliexpress for sure, thanks anon.

>>11114227
Doom is actually a 2D platformer

>>11114234
I see, guess it's still "too early" for the Summercart to get its cheap version.
My Super64 still works thankfully.

does this thing have 3D games running at 60FPS other than Fzero and Smash?

>>11114672
dark rift

>>11113973
It sucks. PSX was much better.
The N64 is a cemetery of unfinished games and abandoned ideas, the PSX knew exactly what it wanted to be from the beginning

>>11114672
Pretty sure Ridge Racer does, it's butter smooth

>>11114731
RR64 is 30fps but it's very stable on that framerate, plus it's a fast game so it feels really smooth.

>>11114731
nope, it runs at 30fps

>>11114435
>Way more seamless than the x7 which doesn't fully save until you boot into the menu again
X7 saves without requiring a reset.

>>11114013
for multiplayer I like Goldeneye X, its basically Goldeneye running on Perfect Dark engine so you can play with bots etc.

>>11114694
PSX let the normies in and its been downhill ever since

>>11114794
Video games have always been for normalfags. The only aspect you can say weren't were older PC games pre-90's.

>>11114758
>X7 saves without requiring a reset.
The save data is kept in battery-backed memory. It doesn't actually get written back to the SD card until you load the menu again.

Think of how much better the N64 would have been if it wasn’t for the slow RAM causing crappy framerates.

>>11114172
The 64DD hardware emulation is cool. I hope it gets added to the EverDrive.

Amped Up with 3D Models
https://x.com/Litronom/status/1812243295378264412

>>11114013
Quake 2

>>11114839
Nintendo always cheapens out in some thing. Slow CPU for the SNES, slow RAM for the N64, mini-DVDs for the cube...

>>11114814
Yep, the x7's solution is a bit of a cop-out. I honestly have no idea why you'd get one over the SC64 at this point when the latter is strictly superior and cheaper.
I got mine in just the other day, and it's been flawless testing the RTC, 64DD emu, USB->PC connection, and everything else.
>>11114234
The PCB costs alone are prohibitively expensive. Any listing claiming to significantly undercut the ongoing group buys in price is likely a scam.

>>11115116
This is sick

>>11114227
If you like Perfect Dark's campaign difficulties you'll like World is not Enough. The true way to play it is a full clear on Agent, then Secret Agent, then 00, but if it does not hold your interest the mandatory mission for multiple difficulties is Night Watch at least.

Quake is the best Quake.

Just a reminder you can play doom, doom 2 and wolf3D on a N64 with a flashcart, you can look for the latest .z64 files of those games on archive org, they play well.

>>11114839
>Think of how much better the N64 would have been if it wasn’t for the slow RAM causing crappy framerates.
Yes. It would be faster if it had higher specs. That's a good point.

>>11116203
Dumbass

>>11113973
Pokemon Stadium just deleted my Yellow save because it thought it was corrupted.
I hate this shitty Transfer Pak so much and how it wobbles around in this garbage controller.

>>11115116
Finally, I hated the 2D sprites since the day the game came out.

>>11116386
Are the contacts clean? I think you can put the transfer pak in a second controller and just set that down somewhere to reduce the risk of things like this happening.

>>11114013
Turok is the best FPS game ever made.

>>11116438
Yeah, I cleaned it. It's just that the Transfer Pak doesn't sit as tight in the controller as the other peripherals.
I did what you said and hope it doesn't happen again.

>>11116453
Maybe you could also wedge it in tighter with a piece of paper of something.

>>11116386
Are you sure the internal battery in the cartridge isn't dead?
I had a wobbly xfer pack that would lose connection with the game every now and then and it never deleted or corrupted saves. Used the dodrio tower and the storage boxes a lot.

>>11116467
I could try that, thanks.
>>11116909
I replaced the battery a while ago. And since I put the controller on the ground it didn't delete it again. So it has to be a faulty connection. But my Red version still has the original battery and it's still not dead. Not many such cases.

Im mostly interested in Return to Yoshi's island because Kaze said he would release his optimized code to the public once that hack is done, and I'm really interested in seeing what could this bring (vanilla Mario 64 running at 60fps on console? Mario 64 Land running on console?)

>>11118137
I'd like to see Mario 64 running in high resolution on console. The resolution is fine as-is, but I just want to know if a high resolution is feasible.

>>11115923
You convinced me to try TWINE, I didn't like the PSX version nor the movie all that much but the N64 game is good

Moron here. What's the best way to hook up an N64 to a modern TV using a Retrotink 5X? Is there a particular cable that I should buy?

>>11118485
S-Video is the best an unmodded N64 can output, so if the Retrotink has an S-Video I'd use that.

You want an S-Video cable that only has an S-Video plug (plus audio), because the ones which have S-Video and composite produce a picture with a diagonal crosshatch pattern. There are some cheap S-Video cables on eBay. I have one and it's fine.

Does anyone have the Raphnet SNES, Wii or GameCube to N64 controller adapters? If so what do you think of them?

>>11118379
It probably is feasible, I think long ago someone made a Goldeneye 007 mod that increases the game's resolution.

>>11118485
>>11118548
if he's upscaling to 1080p your going to want shielded s video cables, because the noise in the signal is more visible at higher resolutions. retro access made a cable out of fortaflex which is the best, but the tranny there is having a nervous break down right now. insurrection cables I think is the only one left who makes them, but with every retro product it goes out of sale all the time.

>>11118548
That's what I thought, but I thought I'd ask here just to he sure.
>>11119389
If S-video is the way to go, then I'd like to get high-end cables. I just got the Retrotink very recently, and so far I've only tested it with PS2. Using the AV cables that came with the PS2, the retrotink made it look decent. Then I got cheap component cables, and that was a big improvement. Then I got Retrovision's shielded component cables, and now the image looks great! So I've seen for myself the difference that good cables can make. Can anyone recommend me a good high-quality shielded S-video cable that ships to Canada? N64 is definitely the next system I want to try with the Retrotink.

>>11113973
I have one and i hate the controller of the n64

SUCH AN GOOFY CONTROLLER

>>11120512
so interesting how zoomers are just as baffled by the n64 controller as actual boomers were. history may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.

>>11120512
>HOW DO I HOLD THIS THING I DON’T HAVE THREE HANDS LMAO
The N64 controller is actually quite versatile but you might have to be used to it. Try from MLiG talked in a video about using the NSO controller for modern games. I play NES and Game Boy with mine and it works well.

dem rangz

>>11115116
>twatter

>>11120545
From what I can this is only available via twitter and I actually signed up for the first time just to download it, because elon decided you can’t view replied unless you’re signed in.

>>11120568
People that lock content behind walled platforms need to KTS.

>>11120957
got the xbox 360 remaster last week before they closed the store, and the only thing i miss about the n64 version is those chrome textures

I took a quick look at N64 Perfect Dark a little while ago. The controls seem complex but it looks like it could be a fun game.

>>11120984
It is a fun game but be sure to get used to the controls because the game is very unforgiving, specially on Perfect Agent.

>>11120512
It was a good design when you consider that analog sticks were not yet a commonly accepted feature of game controllers. The N64 controller had an analog stick in case fans responded well to it, and a D-Pad in case they didn't, and developers were free to design their games around one or the other. Sony spent 5th gen redesigning their controller to add features that Nintendo came up with like analogue sticks and rumble.

>>11114172
>better than ED64plus & Super64 (updated OS using N64FlashcartMenu with better compatibility and support for 64DD games and other things
so aside from 64DD what kind of improved compatibility are we talking about? i'd like to know if it's worth upgrading.

>>11121021
iirc it can play no mercy, pokemon stadium 2 and games that dont need a cracked version to work on ed64+ clones (like dk64, banjo tooie or jet force gemini), not sure about animal forest though.

honestly im gonna wait for FlashCartMenu to be compatible with ED64plus and its clones
https://github.com/Polprzewodnikowy/N64FlashcartMenu

>>11114007
the English translation patch introduces a game-breaking bug

>>11114229
you ever played killer7?

>>11114229
Are you Asian? They seem to be predisposed to problems with motion sickness in FPS games.

>>11120984
Just play it WASD+Mouse

Well, Quake 64... is Quake. It runs smoothly, the controls are fully customizable, the coloured lights seem to look better than on PC, but it's missing some levels and the 4th difficulty.

>>11122457
They went for the clown puke aesthetic in lighting. Ugly.

>>11122457
it does have the nightmare mode.

>>11122457
this kills the saturnbro.

The steelsticks64 A grade bowls were restocked today so I got one. Fuck it, why not. It'll be the easiest thing ever to resell if I don't like it.

>>>/v/684209865

>>11114694
the PSX library is like 85% shovelware lol

>>11122457
SOUL. I love the coloring.

It took me 5 years but I finally put together a n64, but what games should I even play?
console(watermelon): free
Psu: free
A/v: ¥130
Controller(black): ¥550
Onions wars empire: free

Don't think I'll be getting a memory expander for near nothing till next time im in Japan so ideally any good games that run without it?
I also have the gba adapter and a controller memory cart that were ¥220 and free respectively.

The onions wars game is pretty fun so far. I also have majoras mask (free) but can't run it

>>11114227
TWINE is great, you should play it.

>>11123743
What sort of games do you like? Mario Kart is fun and the Japanese version is easy to find.

>>11123528
What a bunch of morons

>>11123785
I'm willing to play most things so usually games that are seen as the best of the platform work for me

>>11123743
get an expansion pak asap
as for games
>3d platformer
mario 64
mystical ninja starring goemon
banjo kazooie
rocket robot on wheels
duck dodgers 64
castlevania 64/legacy of darkness (some say skip to lod as its an improved version of 64 but i still recommend playing cv64)
chameleon twist duology (preferably the japanese version)
conker's bad fur day
dk64
banjo tooie
rayman 2 if you dont have a dreamcast or dont like playing on pc
>racing
mario kart 64
diddy kong racing
snowboard kids 1 and 2
1080 snowboarding
mickey speedway usa
fzero x
wave race 64
excitebike 64
top gear rally
iggys reckin balls
top gear hyperbike
wipeout 64
extreme g
star wars racer
aerogauge
rally challenge 2000
ridge racer 64
cruisn world
rush 2 extreme racing
world rally championship
stunt racer 64
beetle adventure racing
>fps
goldeneye
perfect dark
turok trilogy
doom 64
quake 2
forsaken 64
007 world is not enough
>fighting
killer instinct gold
fighters destiny
rakuga kids
mace dark age
sd hiryuu no ken
>arcade
robotron 64
star soldier vanishing earth
chopper attack
any rampage game
utchan nanchan no hono no challenger (irritable stick 64)
>on rails shooter
star fox 64
sin and punishment
pokemon snap
>action
both zeldas
gauntlet legends
shadowman
jet force gemini
blast corps
winback covert operations
bomberman 64, 2nd attack and 2001
star wars rogue squadron
star wars battle for naboo
shadowgate 64
nightmare creatures
duke nukem zero hour
indiana jones infernal machine
>puzzle
tetrisphere
new tetris
magical tetris challenge
taisen puzzle dama 64
any bust a move game
wetrix
pokemon puzzle league
dr.mario 64
puyo puyo sun or n party
lode runner 3d
charlie blast territory

>>11123851
forgot to add
>arcade
dezaemon 3d
bangai o
>rpg
hybrid heaven
zool 64
robopon 64
super robot taisen 64
shiren 2
>sports
track & field 2000
any iss game
fifa/world cup 98 or 99
any nfl blitz
wayne gretzky 3d hockey/98
any ken griffey jr game
nba hangtime or showtime
nba jam 2000
aki's wrestling games (wcw vs nwo series, wwf wrestlemania 2000 or no mercy and virtua pro wrestling 2)
>2d plafformer
mischief makers
goemon great adventure
>misc
pilotwings 64
project wonder j2
harvest moon 64
battletanx duology
vigilante 8 duology

>>11123853
and i forgot ogre battle 64

How's the N64 version of Daikatana?

>>11119635
Used these for years with no issues

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUPER-NINTENDO-SUPER-FAMICOM-GAMECUBE-WII-N64-SNES-NES-RGB-SCART-CSYNC-COMPONENT-YPBPR-HDTV-HDMI-VIDEO-CABLES-CORD/n64/SUPER-NINTENDO-NTSC-GAMECUBE-N64-S-VIDEO-SUPER-FAMICOM-CABLE-FULLY-SHIELDED-75-OHM

>>11114013
Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Doom 64. Doom 64 is a classic corridor shooter and the others are mission based, with good multiplayer for the day. These games reward creative ways of solving their missions and are at theur best when things go wrong and you have to improvise. Doom 64 is not a port of Doom 1 or 2, its like Doom 3.

The World is not Enough and Turok 2 are the next level. TWINE is another devs take on the Goldeneye formula, and it came out well. Theres 4 Turok games and a few others that use their engine on n64 and Turok 2 is the best by a good amount.

The other Turok games are the next level. These games are more about exploration, item collection and boss battles. As I said Turok 2 is best. Turok 1 is fun too, but has terrible line of soght and fog. Rage wars is a multiplayer expansion and it ok fun. Three is just more of the same, but not bad. Armorines is one of the worst of the Turok type games, but it isn’t that bad. South Park is the worst Turok clone.

Forsaken 64 is a descent clone. Its a niche market, but if you like 8 directional shooters this ones for you.

The PC ports are mostly fine but inferior to the pc originals. Quake 1 and 2, Hexen, Rainbow Six are all good. The Duke 3d port uses polygonal models which is interesting, but I actually prefer the Saturn version as a console port.

Shadows of the Empires has a first person canera option. Its Auto aim. Kind of a fun, very early 3d platforming/third/first person shooter hybrid.

Daikatana is a steaming pile of shit.

>>11124269
Quake 2 isn't a port, it's more like an expansion. It's entirely exclusive levels.
Duke Nukem 3D doesn't use polygonal enemies except for the end boss.

I doubt you played half of what you're talking about

I prefer Mystical Ninja 2, but most people seem to have fond memories of the previous game. Is it that good?

>>11124362
2nd one is a better game. First one is fun to explore the huge 3D world but gameplay is otherwise poor.

>>11123851
Fucked up that 4MB of shit RAM is going for 40-50 bucks.
I ended up just buying a whole other console with the expansion pak already inside for about $25.
>>11123968
Honestly, it's an improvement over the original release just because the sidekicks aren't used in the game. There are a lot of further heavy alterations done to the game to make it play on the N64, though. Just look up the intro cutscenes for the original and the N64 port to get a glimpse.

>>11124362
2nd plays like a bad SNES game (bad is a harsh word, but it's your typical "3d game in a 2d plane" game of the era)
1st one is great

>>11124362
I wouldn't say its better than Great Adventure/Mystical Ninja 2 but it is still a good time, I think its more remembered because Great Adventure wasn't so common to see (I by luck managed to rent that game back then).

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