/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Fraggot
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/d-f/fraggot

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
Is this even alive?
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
BETA V2: https://files.catbox.moe/tc0rgk.wad

=== NEWS ===
[6-22] Quake 2 Torture Jam is out
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-re-release-torture-jam1

[6-20] DBP66: Lunar Strain is out now
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3575/lunar-strain

[6-17] Fraggot is on IDgames!

[6-13] Gore Nuggets released
https://skelegant.itch.io/gorenuggets

[6-10] Tomb of Thunder updated to version 1.03
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tomb-of-thunder.357/

[6-10] Ashes: Hard Reset released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/ashes-2063/downloads

[6-5] Nightdive announces Killing Time Resurrected
https://x.com/GuerrillaCollec/status/1798429585299964031

[6-3] Release trailer for Ashes: Hard Reset scheduled for June 10th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFf65H8q1lg [Embed]

[6-2] CutStuff.net is now https://mm8bdm.net/forum..

[5-30] Rise of the Triangles is on IDGames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21188

[5-30] Little Italo, tribute to the Italo Doom
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3549

[5-27] Zandronum-compatible Colorful Hell released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1252561#p1252561

[5-26] AMC Squad v4.5 released
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news/amc-squad-45-interim-edition-released

[5-25] MBF64, D64 gameplay mod for MBF21 is released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143161/

[5-23] Extinction Warrior Typhon released
https://skelegant.itch.io/extinction-warrior-typhon

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [mm-dd] date bracket)

>>11041093
>Reposting:
Any fun mapsets with 3D floors, slopes and all these advanced mapping shing-dings? Makes the world feel more spacious, full of intricately tucked secrets to discover and untapped potential for exploring. Partial, total conversions or just generally based on Doom, you name it. Preferably something which let me play without a mouselook and focused on nonstop gameplay, i.e. no interactive story elements or cutscenes.

This is when you know DOOM modding has gone full circle

Are there any Quake mods that make heavy use of the wind tunnels from e3m5? I want more of that shit.

>>11041138
"Obsessive Brick Disorder" from Arcane Dimensions. That's all I know

What's everyone playing or trying to play today?

>>11041108
>try to do some cartoon villain shit with your speedy rat arch rival
>a blood drenched lunatic with a sawed off SR50s in and BFGs your gay robots because you used bunnies in your badniks
>you're quite the large fella, which has implications for your guts

>>11041108
unironically the crossover which could've saved sega

>>11041203
>1994
>Sega copes with the Saturn's poor 3d capabilities by licensing the DOOM engine and releasing a series of highly optimized DOOM clones

remove the pistol from doom
remove bullets from doom
increase shell capacity to 100(200)
make the shotgun the slot 2 weapon
make the chaingun consume shells and fire 4 pellets at once
make the plasma rifle fire a perfectly accurate 10 damage hitscan simultaneously with each plasma bolt so it can snipe switches and compete with chainshotgun & bfg

>>11041271
So would that mean zombimen drop two shells on death?

>>11038358
thanks for info. i hope it gets released soon

Finished Outlaws, a bit simple and the shotguns sucked but atmosphere is off the charts, I'd recommend it.

>>11041021
>>11041012
Holy shit that's awesome. Download?
>>11038743
I know the increased damage is there but the plasma gun not being BRRRRRRRRRRT and instead being BRT-BRT-BRT-BRT is heresy to me.

>>11041216
>Sonic DOOM
>Nights Into DOOM
>House of the DOOMed
>Shining in the DOOM
FUND IT

I think I speak for everyone here when I say that Nuke Dukem would have been a better name

>>11041426
Dick Kickem

>>11041426
Stool Drizzlem
Uhuhunh what an mess!

I'm 99% sure this doesn't exist, but I'm going to ask anyway: Is there a mod for Doom whereby you play as Duke, but he has bespoke lines for certain "beats", i.e. the beginning of episode two begins with something like
>Damn, those demon bastards are gonna pay for taking my life
? Not just playing as Duke in Doom, but having him exist diegetically in Doom's campaign.

>>11041403
>I know the increased damage is there but the plasma gun not being BRRRRRRRRRRT and instead being BRT-BRT-BRT-BRT is heresy to me.
Heretical plasma, you say? Corvus is a bro so that's cool.
>captcha: WANGJS

>>11039905
>give the vanilla Doom 2 gameplay a try some day of you haven't
I'm definitely gonna, in retrospect I regret BD because of how easy it feels but I'm already far enough in that I'll see it through
my plan is finish II, circle back to E4 in I, then final doom, 64, and 3 in VR and maybe VFR
after that I'm gonna play doom 1 through eternal on pc just kbm

>>11041356
I think I said that I would get it all tested by June 15th, but I overestimated the time I could assign on playing, and forgot how tight some maps were. I still have a few big maps to try and break, like the Shantae and Mikazuki ones, but it's getting there.
If anybody would like to go bug-hunting here's the current beta you should use : https://files.catbox.moe/hqmxt7.zip
Captcha: SSSG

Why so many duplicate textures in IWADS? I've noticed a few...

>>11041190
Thinking about running Space Hunter with the new DBP.

>>11041598
Doom 2 and Final Doom for some reason replaced some Doom 1 switches with these placeholders.

>>11041093
ARE YOU GOING COCK SUCKING

I need another trash metal midi now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOyyQxj986w

>>11041474
I woul love a mod that does this with Quake 3's unused Doomguy lines

>>11040805
>Doom Plasma Rifle
> + Melts every individual target decently fast, a super strong weapon
> - Generally superfluous once BFG is obtained except for sniping bosses
You wouldn't actually get the BFG until either secret area in E2, or later on in E3, so for most of the first game you just don't have it, and you'd mostly use the Plasma. Doom 2 changes this some, and it's an example of how Doom 2 would really have benefitted from episodic division, like the first game, so that the player's inventory would get forcibly reset a few times, so that some of the difficulty and scaling can also be reset.

>Doom 64 Plasma Rifle
> - Sucks ass
> - Nerfed so hard the buffed Chaingun feels better
> - Completely useless once you get the Unmaykr
> - Has no reason to exist
It exists so that you have a weapon which uses Cell ammo until you finally get the Unmaker (or BFG9000), which may take a while, depending on if you find secret levels or not (and depending on which passwords you might use you may not have the Unmaker from previous levels, but still finding the Plasma lying around).

The reason it's nerfed in rate of fire is probably for memory reasons, the rapid spew of projectiles would probably tank your performance in some situations, and this is probably why the Chaingun had its rate of fire boosted in return, to make up for that.
It's probably also to make the Unmaker weapon more distinct, as much of its deal is rapid fire.
Since the Unmaker uses hitscans with a very simple 3D laser drawn between the weapon and the impact, it's no even close to as memory intensive.

>>11041523
Yes, as said, most probably for memory reasons, it likely contributed excessive slowdown in some places and some situations. Imagine blowing out 50 projectiles quickly and they travel across a longer distance, that can add a lot extra for the game to keep track on when things are already busy, on a machine which just isn't as powerful and capable as a PC.

>replaying marathon
>after each level look up author comments on lhowon
>then read the volunteers and tour of duty commentary
soul. bless those who were passionate about marathon 20+ years ago

idea: Training grounds mapset. Each maps is balanced around a specific weapon, monster or item, emonstrating different kinds of encounters and giving tips on how to deal with them.
It would also be interesting to try different gameplay mods in it and see which ones won't work well in some vanilla-balanced scenarios.

Hey guise, I need some feedback on my level, see screenshot

>>11042638
add more monsters and obstacles in the middle so players are more obliged to take the intended path

>>11041414
>Shining in the DOOM
would play

>>11041426
Wouldn't have alleged legal issues with Captain Planet either

>>11042638
>>11042754
Look up uaclabs .wad

>>11042758
>combat without damage
This isn't a Morrowind thread

>>11042758
>pistolstart somewhat normal
>feeling absolutely retard
Good start. Man I can't decide what retro fps to play next. All out of ideas. Might just do a palate cleansing doom run or something.

>>11042785
Just don't spec your character retarded, equip him for what you actually specced him for, and then pay attention to your fatigue. The game throws virtually free restore stamina (and restore health) potions at you in most major towns, and they're commonplace elsewhere.

Just finished afterglow and wow was that incredible, good thing I saved all my stims for that boss fight or else I'd have been fucked; so many of the side areas in that last mission had too many enemies and not enough ammo the sub mission didn't have many enemies, but I sure didn't get my ammo back from it, it was worth it for the Smiley slide at the end though, lol. In general I think the last couple of levels were a little to Doom 2 for me in terms of just throwing you into a room to circle strafe in; I love ashes for it's Blood/Ion Fury style shootouts, not for careless arena fighting. But even with those lategame negatives it's still one of the best FPS games I've played, all the more sweet for being a passion project and not an early access steam release, though I'd happily pay for it. Onwards to HR.

Pic related made me shit my pants.

>>11042638
Sink the grass down and turn it into nukage, keep the narrow path as a thin walkway, put hellknights and imps on the semi-circular path.

>>11042846
>Onwards to HR
Temper expectations

>>11042638
Put a backpack behind the lamp post
And a trigger which causes two chaingunners to spawn behind those park benches when you pick it up

>>11042846
>spoiler
That was a moment that made me realize I was playing a truly transcendant game
>Onwards to HR.
Just so you know it wasn't fully made by Vosty, it was a collab with a tranny and the tranny afk'd halfway through, he had to rush it out just to meet the deadline. It has 3 excellent levels but overall the quality is far below 2063, let alone Afterglow. There's also talk of a patch for a number of the issues coming soon, probably want to wait at least for that.

Just finished Hexen first hub. I got a feeling it's gonna be really painful.

>>11043035
You're a big guy, I'm sure you can handle it

>>11043035
First hub is the worst hub

>>11042638
doom engine is a bad choice for dm-hyperblast remake

>>11043035
It gets much better after the first hub, but Hexen really just doesn't click with everyone.

>>11043035
Hexen's level design is akin to torture.

>>11043080
>but Hexen really just doesn't click with everyone.
Raven's biggest fuckup was not really getting what their audience of Doom into Heretic into Hexen players were expecting,

Most of these people don't look at map names, don't really listen for context clues short of elevator sounds and they often just kind of brute force their way through maps by trying everything till something works.

>>11042758
>3d bad

I thought Afterglow was gold until the last two missions, which have potential but feel pretty unfinished.

>>11042638
Put 40 or so revenants, 8 mancubus, 5 hell knights, 30 imps, 10 chaingunners, 20 shotgun zombies, 4 arachnotrons, 3 arch-viles, a cyberdemon and 2 spider demons in there. Then repeat that encounter 3 or 4 times throughout the whole map. Then put your map after map20 and you'll have made a quality map.

>>11043174
This, but unironically.

>>11041480
Source?

>>11043195
No, Idtech 1
The gameplay mod is Babel. I think the WAD is Going Down

>>11042846
I liked both 2063 and Afterglow but.. Getting stuck in Afterglow sucks the fun out of it sometimes. Being stuck wandering around the botanical gardens was dreadfully boring and every time I get stuck I start hating the game until I finally get going forward.

>spend way too long on a map
>think its absolute trash
>cant just let it go
How often does this happen to you guys?

>>11043260
That doesn't usually happen to me until I release something.

>>11043260
It happens a lot while I'm doing gameplay stuff. If you think it's complete trash then I'd say at least set it to the side because there's always something that can be salvaged or reused there.

>>11043076
smile_and_nod.gif

>>11041094
>Demo Release: 6/22/24
>picrel
so what now

Which source ports support Voxel Doom? I thought it was just GZDoom but it Woof! does too (and by extension Nugger)

what happened too delphi doom. is it still alive?

>>11043175
I wasn't being ironic.

>>11041190
The Square posts got me back to playing Square. I spent a stupid amount of time lost e2a3 because I didn't realize you need to use the speed power up to progress. Now that I know what to do I think the idea of juggling two powerups just to progress is a really interesting idea, and combat while speedy in general is really fun.
The experience also made me realize you can rocket jump to great effect in low gravity and alternatively use that to progress. Somehow I never tried rocket jumping till then and now I wonder what kind of skips you could do on earlier levels with it. And on that matter...
>>11041096
Isn't Square designed for freelook? I think the rocket launcher and goonades would be hard to use without it.
To actually answer your question: Try heartland maybe, or quake. I feel like most maps that use 3d floors and expect freelook to accommodate the fact enemies can exist directly above each other.

Anybody play any good .wads lately? Just in general? Old or new?

>>11041190
sum QUAK

>>11043059
I'd say fouth is more confusing.

>>11042638
Not retro

What's a good mapset to use with Moon Man Doom?

>>11043874
/pol/.wad

>>11043634
I'm just getting into actually playing doom mods other this weekend so I've mainly been downloading and setting everything up, but I've started with Sunder and it's kicking me in the balls.

>>11043892
I wasn't aware that was a thing. Thanks.

>>11043901
>I wasn't aware that was a thing. Thanks.
Damn son you're in for a treat. Total classic.

They never called themselves demons. It was Doomguy who made assumptions based on their outer appearance. Don't be like Doomguy.

>>11043901
pol.wad was basically the blueprint the Moon Man mod is coasting off of, and was made by a guy from these threads. Even non-/pol/lacks loved its theatrics.

>>11043260
I JUST HATE DOING DETAILS FUCK ME

>>11043901
I need to actually get Doom Explorer or another one of these loader programs because my folders are getting confusing af.

And I also actually need to put down the time to play.

>>11043957
I just dump everything loose in the Zdoom folder and write my own batch files to launch with.

>>11043903
>>11043931
Trying it now, using both together does some goofy stuff with the enemy placement. I'm having plenty of fun with pol.wad alone though.

>>11043957
It was really easy to set it up and get about 100 different wads downloaded and working in it in a couple hours, even without prior experience. Modding is so much easier than I remember it being in the 2000s.

>>11043725
Who's the artist for this?

>>11043725
Looks a little too Mass Effect rather than Marathon, not that I dislike Mass Effect.

Does anyone happen to know where I can find the NPC portrait art in Hard Reset?
I tried to narrow it down by NPC name(varni since she's the one NPC name I remember) but i could only find her sprite.

>>11043925
>cacodemon
>actually not a demon, just a smoothbrained scavenger animal
what should we call it then
cacobeast?

>>11041093
You’re in charge of coming up with a “super shotgun” slot weapon in a project.
What do?

>>11044237
A shotgun with a tiny red cape, which turns shotgun shells into highly damaging lasers.

>>11044237
>What do?
Put in... a super shotgun? Idk what else to say lmao. If you need a super shotgun you put in a super shotgun. I'm not going to re-invent the wheel as a square when the wheel is perfectly fine.

What type of project it would even be for is the question? Maybe if it was a medieval fantasy themed thing maybe I would utilize something like a hand ballista but I don't like fantasy fps so..

>>11044237
A shotgun that saved a kitten from a burning building

>>11044237
A full auto mag fed shotty with grenade launcher under barrel.

>>11044243
That be pretty cool, attachment for base to be super
>>11044245
Can be whatever you like.
>>11044254
A “ sentient” helper gun? Has the been a mod where gun becomes follower like that?

>>11044237
An explosive punch that fires debris.

>>11044268
>can be whatever you like
Well here's a couple, some have been used already :
-Explosive tipped crossbow, altfire switches between regular and dynamite bolts.
-Flaregun. Blood actually imo almost-perfected the flaregun but it's a bit powerful to be in the pistol slot.
-Flak cannon that shoots out pellets that bounce off of surfaces so you can hit enemies in cover or behind corners.

>>11043080
>everyone
Speak for yourself. I love Hexen.
>>11044237
>What do?
Two words: double crossbow.

>>11044237
Look at the rest of the project and make something that fits in. Can't just make something all disconnected from everything else, that's poor project management.

>>11044237
A blunderbuss you just jam a bunch of shells into
The more shells you load the more damage and knockback

>>11044237
What’s cooler, ak that shoot shotgun or “m1 garand” that shoot shotgun shells?

>>11044015
me

>>11044146
the marathon 2 assault rifle does look pretty damn close to the ones from ME, what with that whole tactical tuna thing going on.

>>11043174
>>11043175
>>11043537
Of course he wasn't being ironic. The guy who did it first got hired by Valve.

>>11044237
A massive punt gun that does BFG-level damage but costs 40hp and stuns you for 2 seconds when you shoot it.

>>11044417
ak that shoots shells is just a saiga, cool but exists
m1 shotgun is a perfect blend of cooltarded, unique, and has the obligatory meme ping (or since it's a shotgun now, maybe a deep gong)

>>11044618
Bolt action shotguns do exist, they're more for slugs than actual shot though
Though that's an idea...

>>11044625
bolt actions and semi auto shotties both exist, but the m1 is its own unique mess with that enbloc clip and preternatural disdain for thumbs, it's only ever been rechambered for .308 so anything more wild has the cool factor of being OC donut steel

>>11044632
Just do what Kalashnikov did :^)

>>11044618
Never thought about the sound aspect.
Make it a sawed off and im sold.
Wonder how big would be to have an 12ga enbloc.
Tf2c had the “garand slam” shotgun

>>11044237
40mm grenade laucher that shoots 40mm flechette shotgun shells. Yes this still uses normal shells as ammo, I ain't gonna explain shit.

>>11044637
>don't ever speak to me or my son ever again

>>11044637
Slightly bigger or somewhere in between those, probably hold 4 shells per clip. Fills the niche of SSG’s low capacity high damage satisfying booty blaster.

>>11044331
>Look at the rest of the project and make something that fits in.
I’m way too into having balanced shotguns, so I’d like to know what the “regular” shotty is before diving into making a “super” one.

I'm trying to play blade of agony (3.0), but bullets literally aren't hitting. I can stand directly infront of a guy and unload an entire mag of mp40 into him and maybe 2 bullets will actually hit. Is there something wrong with my install or is the game just shit?

>>11043634
I'm playing through Blight. Idk anything about the mapper(s) but it's supposed to be after sigil 2? It's a Doom 1 .wad. It's been alright so far.

>>11044857
Something is definitely wrong with your settings. Last time I played it, it worked just fine after I turned some of the fancy graphical shit down. Check your auto-aim settings especially.

So as you could easily surmise, Sum Ting /vr/y Wong isn't going well. It has one completed map and 5 levels in progress but I really don't know when I can get around to finishing them.

To put it simply, no one else made a submission. I saw some test maps and general interest for a bit, but they didn't follow through. Same could be said for me. If there are no submissions, it's no longer a community project, but a personal one. I've been thinking that 500ml was a fluke. It felt like I didn't lead anything this time around or even make vague suggestions.

If someone is willing to map, the deadline will become "when it's done" but otherwise this will be a personal project and derided for the foreseeable future.

>>11043426
Disappointment and ridicule most likely.

What's a good doom wad for someone trying to impress his racist friends that he's meating for the 1st time?

>>11045080
What?

>>11045080
HFFM

>>11045103
Seconding this, hard.

Trying out Torture Jam for Quake 2. So far it's pretty good, but it has the same sort of quality control issues as previous Q2 Remaster jams with the last map I played (Strogg Rock Cafe) having absolutey AIDS gameplay. I'm overall more optimistic for this than the previous ones though.

I gotta admit, I'm also not sure how I feel about the heavy use of dynamic lights in some of these maps. It's one thing if you can see player and enemy shadows, but when everything in a room has that harsh projected shadow behind it it looks pretty off - especially in motion. Doesn't help that the dynamic lighting and shadows are layered on top of static lightmaps, which can lead to some visible discrepancies between them.

>>11045080
Are you like Uncle Ruckus meeting Jimmy Rebel for the first time and trying your damned hardest to not repel him immeditely with your skin color

>>11045193
>Strogg Rock Cafe
lmao what the fuck is this
hitscanner spam with no health and armed with only a shotgun

>>11045080
>meating
This >>11045103

>>11043559
Jumping is fluid and very responsive in this game, doesn't feel like an afterthought feature and actually lets you do precise movements with ease. For now I use keybinds to move the camera in case I need to survey the environment, with goonades you adapt to the trajectory pretty quick and I only use them for walking groups. Let's see how far this gets me. One of the GZDoom strengths is to be tweaked and moddable, so I play the way which suits my sensibilities.

>>11044220
His name is Phil.

>>11044943
I managed to mostly fix it with some auto aim changes, though the mp40 in particular still like to just shoot through the sprites without hitting on occasion. That said I'm up to the dam mission and think I might drop it; I'm all up for Blood style quicksaving before every big shootout, but at this point I'm damn close to quicksaving before every enemy.

>>11045007
500ml and Violent Rumble are two very cool things to have happened, but since then it feels like everything has really slowed down. I've sadly only ever had the time/knowledge/talent to merely test most of these projects.
>decided to go through the 500ml zip
>noticed the goodies at the end of the ini
that's awesome, man, damn. And I'll always say how 500ml is some of the most fun I've had playing anything in Build so I'm sure the Wang will be worth any wait.

Annoying that mutants don't get subtitles in afterglow, since they are really hard to understand with the effects put on their audio. I have NO idea what the apparition said in return to the spire.

>>11045007
It's alright, can't win 'em all. Plus, /vr/ projects in general have been pretty dysfunctional these past 2 years so it's not like a black spot on our record or anything.

>>11045692
did everyone with the knowledge/drive fuck off to doomerboards/doomworld? is everything neat on this site doomed to rot and die until any cool anons are forced out and all that's left is a cancerous mass of tourists like /v/?

Only on afterglow replay I found out that Walker gets new lines after going theough the gap, some pretty interesting ones, like his horror at the fact the scav fought apparitions. Though the scav says he found a note in the general's room, is there actually one?

>>11045719
Sounds about right, I think some people just don't like being surrounded by insane people and just withdraw from the community entirely, like with TE13.

>>11045692
Nobody can be as bad a lead as Cockblock.
>>11045719
We had one year where a lot of people knackered themselves out being productive as fuck and it's not really bounced back from that.

>>11045757
I know a few anons that have gone over the years, not even because of these threads but because of having to deal with the wider community for long periods of time.
>and just withdraw from the community entirely, like with TE13.
It's especially understandable with what he was going through, poor dude shouldn't have had to suffer through that shit.

>>11045719
2020-2022 were really productive years, but they were also years where people were spending a lot of time indoors. Look at the output before that period. 2022 in particular had a huge turnout and it's not unreasonable for people to get burned out.

My doom mod has so many hateful comments towards the gzdoom dev team that i left when I get frustrated when making something. I call them all sorts of names there, very rude stuff.

I should probably clean all that shit up.

>>11045835
at least share them here for funsies

>>11045835
Nah, leave them in the comments for people to find.

>>11044220
cacodummy

>>11045869
I don't think hunderds of comments in the vein of "GRAF IS A RETARDED NIGGER" is going to be a good look for me man. Even if I explain I was frustrated and angry when writing that code.

>>11045878
It'd still be funny, if you use Slade's archive search function on pretty much any of Term's mods to look for the word "fuck", you get about eighty results for it.

>>11045886
The what now? As far as I know there's only a CTRL+F search inside individual text entries.

>>11045886
I see, but I think I used lots of actual slurs that people get really pissy about. There are people still giving MarkIv shit for having the "n-word" in his mod 10 years ago.

>>11045908
Quite ironic of Nexxtic to make fun of Graf like that.

>>11045921
Gossip is gay.

>>11045835
I vent out my frustrations too.

>>11045930
finish kusta- oh I guess you are huh

>>11045921
as gay of a response as it is, zero punctuation was never good.

>>11045930
>Zandronum: Why yes I will not implement any new useful features, how could you tell
>GZDoom: Why yes I will implement literally everything imaginable, break random shit for no reason and obliterate the performance, how could you tell
Surely there should be a middle ground for this

>>11045903
> As far as I know there's only a CTRL+F search inside individual text entries.
and there's your problem.

>>11045931
Working on it. I've burned up like a month+ just trying to come up with something that I think'll be good.

>>11045942
Oh that's why, I don't have that here. Fuck that'd be nice to have, I've just been unzipping the contents into another folder and use Geany to search.

>>11045946
>Oh that's why, I don't have that here.
You must use an ancient version since even my old version made of warnings still has the script manager under the tools menu that nobody clicks on.

>>11045946
Ah fuck I forgot to mention what I'm cooking here.

>Heat gone
>Two "weapons" now: Laser beam gun, metal shooting spread gun
>Whatever you're using on primary fire, altfire is a melee attack that uses the other ammo. So laser gun primary gives you a metal beating stick secondary.
>Bottom out on ammo? Now your primary is a stripped down attack to use to harvest ammo

Also gonna try making the beam gun have a wind up attack here. But instead of a stronger shot or an exploding attack like the old setup, you just fire more hitscans in a stack. If I go with this I'll make it so you can charge up and fire off the entire goddamn battery if you want. Need to figure out some kinda effect for the scatter gun too, maybe a ramping fire rate.

I've also done some adjusting to ammo gems and shit. So red gems give red mana, blue gems give blue mana, and I recolored the dark gray gems to purple, and those are combined mana.

>>11045956
Version 3.2.6, I have the script manager, but my entry scripts folder is totally empty.

>>11045956
>>11045958
Woop I looked deeper. It's not in entry scripts, it's now in Examples > General. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

>>11045930
Aren't anonymous functions incompatible with Zandro's netcode or something so they'll never add them?
>>11045938
Do what the Q-Zandro devs did and make a fork yourself maybe? Not the ideal middle ground but it's an option. Then again, if you can even do someting like that, might as well join the Zandro dev team instead.

>>11045967
Weird, I guess it got moved folders after 3.2.5, shit's really fucking useful.

>>11045971
>Aren't anonymous functions incompatible with Zandro's netcode or something so they'll never add them?

>>11045979
Hey, don't take my word for that "they'll never add them" but apparently it's not made to have several functions in one frame. Conditions and loops would make things even harder, and if you add that, might as well add zscript as a whole.

>>11043559
"Bigbrik" times do need rocket and explosive crate jumps in some levels, sometimes even jumping on top of enemies

>>11041190
>What's everyone playing or trying to play today?
Perfect Dark.
>this room full of lights
>the nightvision section in the next level when the lights turn on
Someone at Rare really had it out for eyes.

>>11041190
More Doom 2 while I mod.
And then I'll be going back to Monkey Island 2, I'm on the last chapter.

>>11045637
>500ml is some of the most fun I've had playing build

That means a lot man, more than I can articulate over text. Were you the anon that made this webm? If so, it makes me smile each time I see it. Thank you.

We really put our all into that project, even those who couldn't see it through got some spotlight in the screenshots. I was hoping to do the same for STWong but it didn't work out I guess.

>>11045692
>/vr/ projects have been pretty dysfunctional

It's sad to see, for sure. Maybe 2020-2021 was the perfect time for mapping since most dudes were stuck inside or perhaps we just grew up and have more pressing responsibilities. Can't say for sure, but I hope future projects can get more people involved and encourage new frens to try out an editor.

>>11042758
>functional megawads sometimes

>>11043195
>who wanta some javascript?

>>11044268
I think one of the plasma infusion assemblies in DRLA deploys drones instead of shooting normally?

>>11041093
Team Fortress Classic Red Soldier makes me think of Serbian or Croatian soldiers from the Yugoslav Wars.

>>11046171
It's uncanny

did anyone here ever compile the latest version of sentinel's lexicon from github for personal use? if so, can you spoonfeed me how to pls? is it even compatible with GZ at this point?

>>11046089
A lot of the anons involved in the 20-22 projects disappeared.

Reminds me of Quake 2 mines

doomguy is based on rambo

man, this shit is like devil may cry 1 except actually good and not aged like warm fucking milk jesus fucking christ

>>11046262
I feel like some people could just be working on personal projects without really talking about it.
Mine, for example, just isn't really worth talking much about, since it's just a vanilla map with a lot of silly shit. So, I'm trying to avoid spamming the thread until I finish it and have something actually playable to show for it.
If it was a cool gameplay mod like the one in >>11045946 then I'd probably update on it semi regularly too.

>>11046332
>devil may cry
more like demons may die

>>11046448

>>11046451
because you kill the demons

>>11046190
>>11046171
was it already a meme back then?

>>11046332
As a massive DMC3 and Bayonetta 1 fan, I have lots of problems with Demonsteele's scoring system and some of its balancing, but it being a free and abandoned mod I suppose it can't be helped.

>>11045930
Fucking lmao.

>>11046536
>it can't be helped
Just fix it urself.

>>11046538
I'm not passionate enough right now about coding or learning to code. Maybe when I'm in my 50s.

Since people are discussing the trends of /vr/ projects I thought I'd post and update to this. 2 projects have been canceled and one has been completed since last time. I also put the citations on catbox this time so the thread doesn't get drowned in links:

https://files.catbox.moe/docqeg.txt

Hey Kartbros, the client got updated again, you're gonna wanna update before WNW
https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.2
>>11046542
Interesting stuff, good job compiling this anon

Couldn't figure out how to get to Mjolnir's mj4m6 legitimately so I warped, wew lad.

Is there a custom Serious Sam campaign (for any of the games) that's designed to be as insanely difficult as possible while still being... possible? Like super large scale combat puzzles tailored to people who have 100% mastered the arsenal and enemy dances and resource management. Plus even stupider traps than usual.

Serious Sam: Skill Issue Encounter?
Serious Skill Issue?

>>11046729
Serious Sam 4 Reborn in the SS4 workshop is definitely the hardest Sam content I've ever touched. In terms of classic Sam, I'll tell you when I remember when I wake up.

>>11046781
Sam has a lot of really shitty mods with no concern for balance or framerate.

>>11046729
>combat puzzles
Such a term is not really imo applicable to Serious Sam imho.

steamed demons

>>11045921
This is different. :^)

>>11038934
This didn't work for me anon :(

>>11046798
?????
you can't not apply the term to a game that forces target prioritization and has no form of rapid disengagement
just design encounters to fuck over the player until they figure out what to shoot first and there you go it's a puzzle lol

>>11046798
(Good) Serious Sam fights are the Tetris of FPS. You have a limited board filling up deterministically with moving pieces at a steady rate, taking away your space for maneuvering. You have to plan which pieces to eliminate, which to let pile up, and which to store with you for later (letting a few harpies, kleers or bulls to orbit around you).

>>11046729
BFE kinda fits your bill. You'll want the regular BFE version rather than the Fusion one though, the author is going full fucking retard with the latter.

>>11045908
whats the meaning here

>>11046852
*BFE Enhanced. And since I have to rectify it, the author seems to have been buck broken by speedrunners and has grown obsessed with preventing, to the point of removing vanilla secrets.

>>11046806
I'll check it myself then, in a couple hours.
anything specific you're trying to convert? will just do metal.wad otherwise.

>>11046798
you couldn't be more wrong

>>11045102
Exactly how it sounds.

>>11045103
What's that?

>>11045218
No idea what you're talking about.

>>11045271
Yeah, you can make freidns with someone before meating them irl

>>11046725
In Bridge of Sighs where you first climb aboard the lift that slowly takes you across the map to grab the dragon claw key, look for a place to drop down, right beside the gigantic ballista

>>11045737
... I was actually supposed to find Walker? I spent like two and a half hours in that area and couldn't find him.

>>11047032
You don't HAVE to, he just lore dumps you, but he's interesting to meet if you want to know more about events of ashes.

>>11047045
completely unrelated but your pic rel makes me think it would be cool if a sourceport allowed your to have the automap open at all times on a second monitor

>>11045226
>hitscanner spam
Most of the pain near the start here has been coming from projectiles and grenades, though there were two shotgunners up top I had to prioritize and I had to take cover against the four down here. I'll see how it plays out, I'm halfway through the jam and this has been quite a spike.

>>11046806
idk, worked for me: https://files.catbox.moe/9ebphi.7z
at what point exactly are you having problems?

>>11047102
its gets completely unplayable past the elevator and that's where i dropped the entire jam, it has like 3 good maps total
i'm tired of quake jamshit lads

>>11047552
>>11047102
Yeah this and Shambler on a Ship or whatever are total trash. At least that other map that looks like it was made in QuArK and left on a floppy disk since 1997 was fun to play.

The finale level is pretty dumb too. You just fight scaled-up repair drones in a weirdly shaped room for some reason. This is what happens when you just open the floodgates and don't cull garbage I guess.

>>11047574
>Yeah this and Shambler on a Ship or whatever are total trash
And I thought that was fun and enjoyable...
Quite a swing of taste here.

>>11047582
I found it to be too cramped and gimmicky, but that area towards the end isn't too bad.
There's also the eye strain factor from the harsh dynamic shadows all over the place, but I don't see them in your screenshot at all. Maybe I should have just turned them off.

>>11046729
Not Sam and not even retro but Devil Daggers is possibly the hardest FPS game ever made, which has about 328k playes and only 1118 have beaten it

>>11047574
>This is what happens when you just open the floodgates and don't cull garbage I guess.
Strogg Rock Cafe felt like they gave Trenchbroom to a Mario Maker kaizo mapper, with the quality to match

>>11047594
It's a much cozier time after going through some Mark Shan and Milous missions, but it could use either a difficulty warning or a tune-up if it's way harder than intended.
>captcha: WAAYY

>>11044237
A double-barreled M79 grenade launcher called the MM158.

Yeah okay I'm dropping Blade of Agony, I got as far as the timed bridges exploding in Paris mission and the only agony here is the agony of trying to play through this mess. Yes it's very pretty, but it feels like a game developed by someone trying to prove the neccessity of playtesting.

>>11047889

>>11042237
>tfw you play Tempus Irae and Apotheosis X

>>11047019
Ssshhhhh, don't say anything.
https://files.catbox.moe/lb8i01.zip

Just take this .wad and play it, you will understand.

>>11047889
Hoseclamp two of them together I guess.
Or go the MACVSOG route.

>>11048095
what about hoseclamping a pair of China Lake launchers together though

>>11047889
>Gets a quad barrel upgrade
>Becomes the MMMM316

>>11048227
>>11048225
Just going for a grenade machinegun would probably do the same thing much better and easier, but it wouldn't be the same visual spectacle.

>>11041532
Merulafag here with my map. hopefully it's no issue to update it.
Changes:
- Smoothed out some geometry and expanded the 6th secret so it's less frustrating to walk on
- Swapped some triggers
- Fixed missing textures and wrong skyboxes that I'm aware of
- Added a plasma rifle and a shotgun to beginning of final section
- Added a broom.
Also, nice job on the intermission, Mokou-anon! Just needs a bit of an edit. She boasts a bit about how good she is at broom-riding. She's not, which explains the crash landing.

Link: https://files.catbox.moe/mi7wp6.zip

List of hard Final Doom levels;
>TNT MAP 29: River Styx
>

>>11046602
oh no it got updated again because 2.2b had some kinks to iron out https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.2c
Get this instead

>>11047045
I walked through that area at least four times and somehow didn't notice the double doors standing wide open. God damn.

>>11044237
Your right hand becomes duke's boot that gets propelled forward and has an explosion animation on impact.

>>11048026
Count your blessings, you're missing on one of the worst finales I've seen in a Doom mod.

>>11047021
Shit I'm not seeing what I'm supposed to be dropping down to. That hole in the center of the screen is a mini underwater section.

>>11047225
>at what point exactly are you having problems?
The textures show up as each black squares in Trenchbroom, I was using quake.wad, the one that comes with JACK but is compatible with Trenchbroom. Hmm, I'll try again but thank you for providing the metal.wad for HII.

>>11048551
Yeah just done it again. Copied quake.wad, renamed the copy to quake4hii, opened in Slade, converted all to palleted PNG/HII, exported as PNG into a folder labeled quak4hii, dragged this folder over the any2wad executable, it spits out another wad file, but everything is black.

>>11048550
You'll need the rune that the sheep drops before you can enter the locked door though

>>11045226
>>11047102
>>11047552
>>11047574
I'll say again
It is time to /vr/ to man up and finally do the Q2R map Jam on the likes of Niggur
if 99 finally came out, this one needs too.

>>11048586
sure you start

>>11048585
OH MY THE GOD THE OPTIMIZER. Goddammit, here I am shotgun starting it on another save. I suppose I'll continue it. And this fucking top lad, goddamn. People are sleeping on this extravaganza of Quake I'm telling you.

>>11046075
Nothing on working mods yet?

>>11048590
The one who is baking this is the Projects dude
Q2UMP was on the projects list until 99 and the blood project became priority
Also Q1 fags cried over /vr/ finally working on a Q2 Project thanks to some sheep spies who comes here every time Q2 is mentioned in a good light ever since Q2R made them mald at their pisscord and forums.

>>11048601
>Also Q1 fags cried over /vr/ finally working on a Q2 Project thanks to some sheep spies who comes here every time Q2 is mentioned in a good light ever since Q2R made them mald at their pisscord and forums.
Archive link? I don't remember this.

So when I run VoxelDoom on my regular GZDoom installation, I get parallax effects on the textures. When I run it on GZDoomVR (the fork so you can play it on Oculus for motion sickness simulator) the parallax textures don't work.

It's not the end of the world but I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't work. I wondered if maybe the parallax effect just doesn't work in stereo rendering but apparently people on YouTube have it working. I really wanna waste several hours walking around staring at trippy 3D Doom textures in VR. Any ideas?

(The voxel models look amazing in real 3D though, you should definitely try it if you have a headset and haven't already)

No zero days anons. 15 minutes at least per day on your projects.

>>11045007

... Is that fuckin Noshahr Canal from Battlefield 3?

>>11048667

Does it count if I just spend 15 minutes looking at it in 3D mode and thinking about it

>>11048687
That's a zero day.

>>11048667
On ALL of them?
I'm not awake 43 hours a day!

>>11048692
I think you should finish some faster than others anon.

>>11048551
that doesn't really answer my question. are the png's fine or already black? what about in SLADE? what about my wad in TB? what about my src wad in SLADE?
are you sure your quake.wad isn't just full of placeholder dummies? considering JACK is sold for money, I'd be surprised if they included idsoft's copyrighted textures. I'm also not seeing any wads in the latest version on moddb.

>>11048736
The pngs are fine within the wad itself. Within TB, they appear as such: >>11048574
>what about in SLADE?
They appear fine, just gray.
>what about my wad in TB?
I hadn't checked actually, but dang, also black.
>what about my src wad in SLADE?
Gray, but fine.
>are you sure your quake.wad isn't just full of placeholder dummies?
It isn't, 100% sure.

>>11048748
>dang, also black
probably means the palette.lmp is missing from TB\games\Hexen2\

>>11048753
FFFFFFFFFFF- this fucking rabbit hole.

>>11048756
well I don't know. maybe TB breakage? mine is from 2022. I'll check a bit later.

>>11048601
Why does every 12th Quake post here have to be completely fucking detatched from reality

>>11045780
>>11045757
>>11045719
the projects we did in 2022 (400 Minutes, 512 Lindefs, and Unrattled, plus iirc 2022's Ad Mortem round) were all headed by one guy (MacGuffin) and he fucked off out of disgust at the wider community after the whole Marisa thing happened
I don't think it's a coincidence that our output slowed down drastically after that

>>11048775
Waifuwad was going fine until the lead got injured. Proton is a can of worms because nobody wants to step up (myself included) to tell the current guy to fuck off.

>>11048775
the dude was already on his way out, that was clearly an excuse to fuck off. the stuff he was posting in the last few months of sns were outright mean spirited

>>11048756
alright, I think I got it. you probably have the wrong Hexen 2 path (view > preferences > game path). should point to root, e.g. "D:\Games\Hexen2", otherwise I also get black textures.

>>11048786
Fuck you caught me out the door. I'll be thinking of this the whole time I'm out, thanks.

>>11048791
the imps should also display as models, so it's most likely the culprit

bet you guys wouldn't act so tough if you met a demon irl

>>11048770
It is kinda weird. I mean, the Quake 1 singleplayer community IS in an abysmal state and filled with awful, cliquey degenerates who should have been gatekept, but the one or two guys doing unhinged sounding no-context posts about it doesn't help. It just makes it seem like someone's dumb personal issue that they're venting here instead of something that has basically stifled Quake modding over the past few years.

What does help is actually coming together and making quality Quake content and thus an alternate place for decent people with actual skill and passion to come to, but... well, RIP Violent Rumble.

>>11048785
I only ever remember him as a very bitter cunt.

>>11048950
hot

>>11048950
cool, he's just like me.

>>11048950
lukewarm, he's somewhat like me.

>>11044237
a pump-action or semi-auto gun of a large caliber that fires miniature HEAT slugs, making every soft and lightly target produce a huge jet of blood and liquid fire behind it

>>11048819
>I mean, the Quake 1 singleplayer community IS in an abysmal state and filled with awful, cliquey degenerates who should have been gatekept
>but the one or two guys doing unhinged sounding no-context posts about it doesn't help. It just makes it seem like someone's dumb personal issue that they're venting here instead of something that has basically stifled Quake modding over the past few years.
You're doing the exact same thing as what you're maligning you dipshit.
>hobby drama
Fucking fuck off.

nintendo presents...

a game by shigeru miyamoto...

Super DOOM™ 64

>>11048601
>Also Q1 fags cried over /vr/ finally working on a Q2 Project
When? Seconding >>11048605 because I don't remember that happening. Only some usual banter about said sheep and such. If anything, vast majority of anons were happy to talk about Quake 2 (with the exception of railgun change in re-release).

>The cerebral bore but it latches onto enemies dicks and jerks 'em off until it blows off the enemy's cock
You can steal this disgusting and terrible idea for free and get ridiculed by the community

>>11049329
No, you can keep your perversions to yourself.

>>11048605
>>11049214
Adding a third to the request. I’ve seen a few posts the last few years bemoaning some /v/ shitposts towards Quake 2, but it’s far from what >>11048601 suggests.

>>11049214
>>11049356
Since my post went missing before i hit the bed
4-3 years ago when the idea of /vr/ finally doing a Q2UMP came to be, suddenly this general as every talk about Quake 2 became a shitshow because the sheep's circlejerk discord who also has the likes of commander beep and roy batty(that roy from fallout NV community) decided that mentioning Q2 or anything that isnt THEIR Quake 1 is haram, to a point they mass reported people and the janitors banned them for "offtopic" when it wasn't, even talking about Doom or Build stuff became a complete mess and some people who used to post here like quakewulf and so on took a break because those faggots couldn't hear anything related to quake 2 that they came to shitpost everywhere and downplay it, it became annoying to talk about any game here because of them astroturfing everything, even erase and change history claiming that Q2 was garbage when Donde and the archive website says otherwise.
And coincidentally, this was the same period ALF became active and went on to raid and derail this thread and /vr/ when Q2 or HL were mentioned in a good grace, while Shilling all of the crap the Q1 sheep community made, even downplaying doom stuff everywhere.

Fast foward to now, Quake 2 rerelease is a success and the game is now what is meant to be before timmy decided to sabotage and rush the release.
Their discord and circlejerk forums went insane because all of their narratives died in that quakecon, and people finally saw that all of those years of they trying to paint that quake 2 was bad died overnight.
Also, none of them were even expecting HL to be remastered too, since it didn't only brought people en masse to HL1, it also made a point that HLDM was better than Quake 1 DM just as Quake 2,3 is.

Also, they were expecting id to make anew quake game based on Q1, only to see that DOOM Dark Ages trailer early this month, that looks more like Heretic than Quake.

>>11049395
Right, sure. Archive link?

>>11049120
>You're doing the exact same thing as what you're maligning you dipshit.
Yes you're completely right, pointing out the obvious state of things and saying the way to fix it is to actually make stuff is exactly the same as the guy constantly schizo posting about people being sent to do raids here over certain topics as if they're part of a mafia.
>hobby drama
>Fucking fuck off.
Okay. Whether that's your reaction out of genuine apathy the situation or just indignation over the other guy's posts, you will eventually just come to agree with me or get out of the way. In either case I'm still going work on Quake maps and suggest others do the same.

>>11049395
Look man I get that you don't like them and I don't either, but you're speaking with certainty about them coming to raid an anonymous imageboard and otherwise things taking place outside of their discord bubble for which you have no evidence. It's not helping. If anything it just cements their influence because they now have a long string of hyperbolic posts to point to whenever someone makes a valid point against them. They can say "oh, you're just like that 4chan guy" and dismiss it without a thought.

Open Trenchbroom and make something. Learn QuakeC. Make textures. Anything.

>>11048275
I'll add your fixes and that text edit to the next beta, thanks.

>>11049431
Indignation over the lack of critical thought. What obvious state of things? What cliques? You don't have any answers, you don't have any criticisms of recent jams, certainly not any good ones. Go make some maps faggot like I am and shut the fuck up about all of this already. Or don't.

>>11049431
I will never map to Quake 1, let that shitty community who thrives on jealousy 24/7 over other games die as it should be.

>>11049448
No archive link then?

>>11049438
>What obvious state of things? What cliques?
If you're serious, go spend time on the Quake mapping discord and the Slipseer forums. If you don't get it then there's nothing to convince you of.
>you don't have any criticisms of recent jams, certainly not any good ones
I have posted serious criticisms in previous threads - not that you see like you would believe me since I'm not behooved to namefag and otherwise can't prove it.
>Go make some maps faggot
I very much am making maps, and think everyone else should also.

>>11049448
Then what is the point of your posts then? You point to an enemy, get mad, and call for surrender. I point to them and want to fight.
Exaggerated, but that's how a see it.

>>11049471
>If you're serious, go spend time on the Quake mapping discord and the Slipseer forums
What? No. I play the jams that come from Slipseer, I don't need to know who these people are. Why do you care about anything but the final product?
>I have posted serious criticisms in previous threads
Such as? I remember a lot of nothing about the Liminal Space Jam when nobody had a thought above 80iq about why it was supposed to be bad. Were you in that lot? Wanna try again maybe?

>>11049481
>Why do you care about anything but the final product?
Because the final products have been continuously getting worse for years with the same names attached to them and the same people heaping fawning praise over what ends up as mediocre at best.
>Liminal Space Jam
>why it was SUPPOSED to be bad
Alright, I guess there really is no point to this conversation.

>>11049507
>getting worse for years
Such as? And how?
>why it was SUPPOSED to be bad
Who are you quoting? Seriously, what are you talking about?
>no point to this conversation
The point gets lost when you refuse to engage critically or thoughtfully, which you aren't. You're just making claims and don't want to, or are incapable of, discussing them. It's all on you man.

>>11048786
Ah so the real culprit after much testing was, in Slade, making sure Current Graphic was set to Quake. Finally. Thanks for your time anon.

>>11049481
>Liminal Space Jam
That's some Quake discussion that's not only archived, but something I can also link to >>/vr/thread/10991934

There were only a couple of posters in that discussion like >>10992575 that weren't coming across as angry flailing Quakebros.

Any ports that implement barrel distortion?

Is it me or after playing the 4 Build games any other game feels clunky and stiff? Especially after Blood and Ion Fury. The movement there feels so fluid and free compared to Quake 1 for example.
I still love Quake 1 (Quake 2 not so much, movement speaking) and Doom despite that.

Am I the only one who feels like this?

>>11049701
I never really had an issue with the Build games' movement, but what bothers me most about those games is RNG enemy drops. Especially when those games hate to give you sufficient ammo outside off secrets.

>>11049701
>Am I the only one who feels like this?
I only start to feel that way with movement speed closer to FEAR’s. Not even HL2 or Doom 3 feel as stiff.

>>11049701
Yeah Build games having jumping yet a step size and movement speed not too far from Doom make it feel pretty fucking smooth, but it just feels like that all the time without any effort.
I don't find it as satisfying as more skill-based movement. Like yeah Quake feels kinda clunky if you're just running and jumping normally, but once you get the tricks down you can't stop doing them because it just feels great. Strafe jumping, circle jumping, and ramp jumping never stop being fun.
The Malice total conversion for Quake is a pretty interesting case, since you have Quake jump physics but diagonal speed boosting like Doom that you can use to go retardedly fast. Any mod with a grapple hook and/or jump boots also adds another dimension of trickery you can take advantage of with enough skill.

>>11049720
I do like the tricks you can pull off in Quake. I do wonder if it's possible to combine both movement "styles" into one. Think of it as a hybrid: Quake's hopping with Build's smoothness and crouching.

Another thing I like about the Build games is that in tight situations I can jump on the enemies and escape being cornered. Feels liberating.

>>11049395
>4-3 years ago
To be fair, that's a rather large amount of time and I could simply not remember everything since a lot of shit was going on at the time. And it's not like I was (and still am) largely a lurker for... Probably 5 years now, damn. Either way, all this unrelated shit is to say that I can't really debate that part.
That being said, it probably won't hurt to get some some of confirmation as >>11049427 suggest to perhaps refresh some anons' memories. I'm still a newbie when it comes to anything outside of lurking (still not using any extension and shit like that), but I'm pretty sure that archives do tend to pick up deleted messages as well.
>before timmy decided to sabotage and rush the release.
Not to completely dismiss Tim Willits' role in Quake 2's original state, but that was just one factor alongside general shake-up at id Software.
>they were expecting id to make anew quake game based on Q1
And they're a bunch of idiots, like all the others with the same though. Expecting id Software to do something not related to DOOM at this point is outright stupid. If anything, Quake could eventually end up in the hands of MachineGames properly.
>>11049431
>you're speaking with certainty about them coming to raid an anonymous imageboard and otherwise things taking place outside of their discord bubble for which you have no evidence. It's not helping.
Yeah, those morons definitely life rent free in anon's head.

do you people bother with doom3? what source port should i use for multiplayer? (i know the multiplayer is kinda shit in vanilla)

>>11049785
>do you people bother with doom3?
I think it’s just me and maybe someone else. I still use the vanilla exe but check out the Dhewm 3 sourceport. I don’t know what kind of multiplayer you’re looking for but I heard of a thing called “libre coop” that might interest you.

>>11049736
>Another thing I like about the Build games is that in tight situations I can jump on the enemies and escape being cornered
Yeah this is probably one the biggest things Quake movement is missing. Weirdly it's not even an engine issue as you can shorten monster hitboxes without changing the collision vs BSP (you can't make them thinner though), and you can fix the weird sliding on top of them with a few lines of QuakeC. Guess id just never thought of it.

>>11045921
desu I didn't understand the seethe people had over this review
ZP is gay but he didn't say anything too crazy
I like Selaco too

>>11049803
>Guess id just never thought of it.
Or they did, and you can’t because its a balance consideration. You have enough height to jump over death knight volleys, though.

>>11049797
i'm just interested in playing with my kid and maybe doing campaign co-op
thanks, completely forgot about dhewm3

>>11049395
Man that alf faggot was obnoxious.

>>11049701
Yes, Build's movement being both fast and precise makes it feel good. I hate Doom's slipperyshit movement. I really do. I recognize it's made the game unique in its flow, but I will never be able to mesh with it.
I hate so many elements of Doom despite enjoying Doom. I hate its movement. I hate its lack of aiming. I hate its finnicky autoaim. I hate its slow weapon switching and lack of dedicated inputs for shotgun/chainsaw. I hate its absurd range of random damage. I hate its retarded enemy behaviors where sometimes they do nothing at all for so long you fall asleep before suddenly deciding to attack.
Doom doesn't appeal to FPS players, it appeals to gamblers. People who like their agency taken away for a thrill.
But saying Quake 1 movement feels bad or worse than Build movement is batshit.

>>11049806
Selaco got way overhyped, in part due to ecelebs with voice roles in it, so it's getting treated like a sacred cow and any criticism is blasphemy.

>>11049808
If it was a balance consideration, that wouldn't explain why the exploboxes suffer from it as well.

>>11049852
>in part due to ecelebs with voice roles in it
What the fuck are you talking about.

>>11049813
>>11049797
Dhewm3 is great and the OpenAL EAX adds so much to the atmosphere.
A shame other id tech 4 games never have their source codes released. Quake 4 and Prey '06 yearn for Dhewm3-level source ports.

>>11049852
>getting treated like a sacred cow and any criticism is blasphemy
can you stop shooting from the hip, Tex
that's the dev bitching, before promptly being told to stop whining

>>11046853
Selaco dev is making fun of GZDoom's dev. Irony is Selaco uses GZDoom.

>>11049907
yeah but whats he making fun of
is graf known for shooting down new ideas or...

>>11049913
Yes, Graf is known for that. He's also known for being quite arrogant but given his source port is the most popular source port in the community it's somewhat understandable.

>>11049913
he is, or just answering "no"
Graf is a bitch

>>11049395
I would say that some of this is true, for instance the Alf faggotry (pretty sure it was a different guy pretending to be Alf), but also that you're massively exaggerating other parts, because I remember me and others arguing against the completely mindless Q2 hate from guys like him, and likewise that he got banned at times.
I also remember a guy (you?) going on regular rants about the Q1 circlejerk Discord, and sometimes complaining about getting banned for that.

Hey guys, I'm new to this series
I wanna try Doom 64, do I need to play the previous 63 Dooms to understand the story?

>>11049857
It’s difficult to imagine they somehow “missed” the ability to jump over enemies during Quake’s development, but it was also weirder than the Doom’s so maybe I’ll consider that.
>>11049865
>A shame other id tech 4 games never have their source codes released. Quake 4 and Prey '06 yearn for Dhewm3-level source ports.
It sure would be something to see newer ports for these two without any buzz from being “remastered”.
>>11049907
Is it currently the smoothest running branch of GDZ?

>>11049431
>>11049471
I like your posts and I agree with them.

>>11049785
I like it, even for its flaws, but I haven't played it in a long while.

>>11049943
Yeah. Sorry. You should've gotten in on the series on release. You simply can't catch up.

>>11049948
Was that a question or a statement? If the former then I don't know. I don't plan on playing Selaco.

>>11049943
Doom 34 is kinda where things go off the rails. Too many harsh restrictions you have to play by.
You should google 'Doom 34 rule' to see what I mean.

>Mod in a thing meant to spawn mid-air, play animation and stop
>It's falling on the ground mid-animation
>No clue why
>Turns out I forgot to set offsets on last few frames

>>11049978
Do people still fall for that shit?

I love Serious Sam so much bros.

>>11049987
gay?

>>11049990
Sam's not gay, he's serious.

>>11049994
Yeah, seriously GAY haha gottem

>>11049972
>Was that a question or a statement?
Mostly a question, but secretly me wishing I could get a smoother/better GZDoom without having to pay for it.
>>11049994
>seriously going gay for Sam
I’m on the fence leaning towards “sure”.

>>11049990
>>11049994
>>11050002
the cannon balls touch!!!

What's going on with vertex relocation anyway?

>>11050002
>>11050012
Damn, you got me

>>11050018
dw I bet serious sam is so masculine that all other men are feminine to him anyway

>>11049978
>Doom 34
That game brings back memories. It's even almost caused economic crisis. Don't believe me? Google doom 34 rule inflation

>>11049774
>MachineGames Quake
more like Qwoke

>>11049539
nice. doesn't explain why my wad was showing up black though.
but yeah, if there's no palette in the wad, you have to select it manually.

>>11050057
Ooh boy I can't wait for a Quake Reboot with a black woman lecturing me while shooting a MAGA hat wearing shambler!
Their free Q1 episodes were nice I'll give them that.

And finally finished mj4m6. That was short and sweet, but honestly I think Egyptoagula, another map by the Mjolnir maintainer,
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/egyptoagula_final.html
was a much better version of "island fortresses in the sky". I thoroughly recommend that one. There's lots of geometry with bad collision too in this m4m6; it needs another pass for sure.

>>11050076
>>free Q1 episodes
I think Dimension of the Past was made to sell to help sell the XB360 port back theb, and Dimension of the Machine was made to sell the multiplat Quake remaster.
>>11050079
DAMN that’s nice.

>>11049943
>do I need to play the previous 63 Dooms to understand the story?
Yes, and then some more.
>>11049948
>>11050012
>Is it currently the smoothest running branch of GDZ?
I'm not a DOOM expert, but I just kind of assumed that VKDoom is currently as close to that as you can get.
https://vkdoom.org/

>>11050085
>I think Dimension of the Past was made to sell to help sell the XB360 port back theb
No. Quake never got a Xbox 360 port. Dimension of the Past just got dropped onto the Internet for game's 20th anniversary.
https://x.com/machinegames/status/746363189768650752

>>11049984
HERE COMES THE NIGHTTRAIN

>>11050096
>Dimension of the Past just got dropped onto the Internet for game's 20th anniversary. Glad I thought wrong.
Ah cool, so one “genuinely free” episode

>>11050096
>>Dimension of the Past just got dropped onto the Internet for game's 20th anniversary.
Ah cool, so one “geniunely free” episode. Glad I thought wrong, and glad I’m so good at messing up green text.

>>11050105
Does the picture actually feature a cock in it or are you merely jesting
do not say Tomas was there originally

>>11050118
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Wouldn't you like to know?

Why is freedoom still unfinished after 20 years?

>>11050125
Because (You) haven't done it yet anon!

>>11050105
fetal alcohol baron

>>11046602
>>11048378
Okay okay, last update for a while, I promise.
https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.2f
UPDATE YOUR CLIENTS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RUNNING NOW

>>11050146
Anon, don't be racist towards hell nobles because their eyes are spaced wide apart.

You bastards got me playing the Adventures of Square again.

>>11049715
Alien Armageddon

>>11049701
Blood is fucking amazing. The movement physics, just the right amount of inertia and some little things like I think if you're coming down from a jump and crounch fast enough you become even smaller. The act of moving and shooting feels so damn good in Blood. And Ion Fury as well.

>>11050161
got 'em.
>>11050164
>Alien Armageddon
Hell yeah.

>>11048950
glad he's kill, he was always an annoying bitch

>>11048950
scorching, nothing like one such as I.

Wednesday night Whatever, come play some SRB2Kart!
Don't forget to update your client to 2.2f!

The all-in-one repack is temporarily unavailable, it will return next week.

How to join:
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use (Windows): https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.2f
Or compile it (Linux or anything else): https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune
Get the mods: https://mega.nz/folder/MiUiESSa#CyovwTUnO9TSmqbwMI1xBg
Connect to 51.161.34.159 (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159 (same as the game server)
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

Recent Changes:
Neptune 2.2 has support for DRRR-style Followers, and all followers from that game have been backported, so you can enjoy driving around with a little buddy.

>>11050303
>DRRR

>You now have three narrow corridors to choose from - two with erupting fireballs, one with darts. One of the fireball corridors will allow you to pass (but will sometimes teleport you back regardless)
>One of the fireball corridors will allow you to pass (but will sometimes teleport you back regardless)
>but will sometimes teleport you back regardless
If in 30 years of Dooming I ever actually sincerely wanted to punch the mapper, that would be the case. The fact that the map itself is actually great makes it even worse.

>>11050350
Reject 3D, return to grid based mapping.

Shadow Warrior - 36 Chambers
Lo Wang is contracted by the government to go back in time and defeat the Wu-Tang Clan, in order to prevent hip-hop from corrupting the Chinese youth.

>>11050367
>WU TANG? SAY HERRO TO MY GREAT BIG WANG, HAHA!

>>11050350
This is nothing compared to what Realms of the Haunting is like.

>>11050350
>>11050394
You know I think that'd be a fun /vr/ Quake project, a small one I'm sure. Something dedicated to sadistic, perhaps even esoteric map design. I'll write some ideas down while I work on my VR2 maps.

if you think about it, DOOM is just a first person metroidvania

>>11050413
Actually SotN is a 2D third-person Hex-like Wolfendoom

>>11050462
Does Strife allow you to travel all the way back to the start of the game when you're near the end of it?

>>11050564
Yes but there's no new stuff to do, so not much point.

>>11050350
looking forward to your Hexen 2 adventures

>>11050210
I didn't ever play the multiplayer stuff here, how was he like?

>>11050676
Check the kart serv

>>11050394
I recall someone complaining that ROTH was an obnoxious fetchquestorama with a plot which is initially interesting and intriguing, but then completely shits its pants.

>>11050690
No thanks.

wtf I just realized that all the demons are naked

>>11050720
Hot.

>>11050720
almost all

>>11050727
>50% armor

>>11048785
I'm not going to gossip, but he made it clear he was done hosting projects after Unrattled, and that was months before the Marisa stuff.
The currently-running projects have been doomed, but there haven't been that many people who came forward to suggest something new.

>>11050584
what this

>>11050720
doom made me bi

>>11050807
One of WG Episodes map
It's actually quite fun and good

>>11049863
Is he just mad Gianni's in it?

>>11049913
he's infamous for refusing to add requests, and also for getting angry when people when people make mods for older engines because his latest changes broke compatibility with them

>>11050130
MINORICUS

>>11050303
GGs

>>11050303
GGs
vrfollowers soonish

The followers are the best part of Ring Racers and I'm delighted to see them backported to Kart

>>11050931
Same

>>11050932
>remove Doomguy from the base roster
>add Dead Simple and a Cacodemon
I don't understand

>>11050937
And now we have them all under the same umbrella, the modders win again

>>11051124
Wow. I didn't even know that could happen.

>>11051126
Seems like an oversight like john romero's head being too big in gzdoom for the longest time, in this case the flattened player is too small

>>11051127
>john romero's head being too big in gzdoom for the longest time
still cant believe we were the ones who found that

This map has too many SEGS.

>>11051141
I'm glad someone came up with some setup so obscure that nobody realized this was broken.

>>11050878
Odd reason. It's one thing to dislike Gianni on his own, but a whole game because he's there is just asinine.

>>11051141
You just reminded me of how Romero made sigil 1 and god he is one weird dude. A mac running a windows 10 emulator running UDB.

>>11045921
>this ain't it
I hate Twatter-Zoomer lingo so much. I looked at the video and he said he liked it and that they should release the full game, so what the fuck more do they want?

>>11051154
When you're used to getting your dicked sucked all the time any morsel of criticism is an insult.

any tips for getting into arena fps in current year? I want to play something like unreal tournament or q3a/cpma but I know player bases are small and there's a lot of shit to learn

>>11049837
>absurd range of random damage
It's the secret sauce that makes Doom's combat a bit more interesting given the game's limited systems eg no headshots etc because if you got used to say, a hell knight always dying to 2 rocks or a revenant always dying to one point blank ssg blast it would make the game boring automaton going through through the motions.

For the autoaim idk just turn autoaim off and enable mouse controls man.

>>11045921
I honestly thought Zero Punctuation's videos were not meant to be actual reviews but more like... comedy bits where he talks about a game fast with a non-american anglo accent?

>>11044237
19.05mm stockles quadstack gyrojet
Built like a brick
Armor piercing explosive ammo
Lets call it APE

>>11051187
Aim at the floor where you think the enemy is going to be in 1-2 seconds if you're using the rocket launcher. That's about it.
There's nothing to really otherwise say because everything else relevant you learn in the first session as long as you find get the game working and find the people to play with.