/vr/ - Retro Games

I'm actually wondering the same. I see a comolete module, but it looks cheap. I've seen something made by a speed runner called Brewsticks, a metal "bowl" for the analog stick that's like 40 bucks alone. And trying to learn anything about them is a nightmare.

Tbh outside of spending a good amount of money on steel stick youre best bet it probably kitsch bent parts. They aren’t 100% compared to the OEM but I doubt most people would notice.

>>11006023
Idk, steelsticks? Try that

>>11006040
>>11006039
Out of stock

I bought some kitsch bent parts along with plastic lubricant. They work but they have some problems.
First of all their bowls grip the gears too tight so I ended up just using the original ones.
Also the black gear pieces have some flashing on the part that rests on the bowl and causes problems. You can file or scrape it off with a knife and then it'll work fine. I've heard some people say they got a "bad batch" and ordered more but it's easily fixable.

Superglue and pen

Kind of just shit out of luck until steelsticks are more readily available or something better comes along. The Kitsch Bent sticks are the biggest meme on the fucking planet, you're expected to sand the parts down yourself because they don't come out of the 3D printer correctly plus lubing it up yourself sucks and even after all of that theyre still not as good as a worn down OEM stick. I appreciate that they're dirt cheap at the very least but christ I would easily pay good money for a decent stick that finally fixes this bullshit once and for all.

>>11006023
As time passes and there is not much left in terms of original hardware, the demand will lead to a 8BitDo level N64 controller. It will be expensive but no doubt it will be made of parts to last.

And then the market for N64 controllers will soften

>>11006148
looked up the steelsticks and damn this shit is like 200 dollars. Does it at least last permanently and feel the same as the OEM stick?

These are genuinely good. Cheap on Amazon and the calibration isn't far off from a fresh stick. Zero complaints with mine.

>>11006148
>because they don't come out of the 3D printer correctly
They come out of the 3D printer exactly as intended, made evident by the fact that they don't do post-processing (as per your won complaint.)

I have SLA and FDM printers. You literally have to do work after the print by nature of how they work.

You need to look at the n64 speed running community for the stick replacements. Check out taostyx64. You can get metal bowls from there right now.

>>11006023
obligatory burger seethe pic

>>11006023
>The sticks on the Nintendo 64 controllers won't last much longer
mine were already destroyed by 1998

>>11006662
It's not over because it never even began...

>>11006640
Whats supposed to be represented here?

>>11006680
sticks resting in unnatural positions

>>11006731
kinky

>>11006680
>Whats supposed to be represented here?
Nothing. It's a pic of a box of controllers, silly gosling.

>>11006213
it's literally a steel stick, if you can wear it down I'd be impressed
also price is fucked because out of production so scalping time lmoa

>>11006023
8bitdo have a GC style replacement with accurate N64 dead zone tuning
It’s good unless want the exact same feel

is epoxy and grease a valid way to reset the clock on these things? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzxguPfWhe0
or 3d printing replacement bits I guess

What are you guys doing to these pads? Just dont play shitty games that wear out the sticks. I have 3 controls that are still in perfect condition, one of them is a bit worn and the stick jiggles a bit, but thats 20+ years of gaming on it, it still works fine though. Loosen the retard grip a bit perhaps.

OP I have 3 n64 controllers for trade if you got anything game related I want.

>>11009204
Are blowjobs game related?

>>11006023
Why even bother with a crap controller like that

>>11007532
If your livelihood doesn't depend on the absolute precision of an original stick, the slight inaccuracies of the modern stick represents really shouldn't be a big deal. And if your job is speedrunning N64 games, then fuck off because you retards are a big part of why the stick crisis even at started

>all this shitty misinformation
8Bitdo replacement stick is the only answer, it reaches 80 on all axis, has no deadzone, has proper steppings and the right gating, its nearly perfect and better than literally 99% of oem sticks out there currently, unless you compare it to a never used one.
It is also compatible with control freeks for shooters.
I have always been a n64fag, one that actually likes the oem controller, trust me, this stick is perfect.
I have beaten PD, GE, Jet force gemini and turok 2 with it.

>>11010207
Yep, the only real downside is the physical shape of the gate I think

>>11009506
le optical stick sensors of muh precision

>>11009506
N64 games are designed around the N64 controller.

>>11007745
My launch controller joystick did finally crap out in the late 2000s.
The moment I first held that stick I realised it was not the most robust design and even dreaded the bowser fights in M64.
I also never owned mario party or any other game that requires spastic stick rotation, and yet it still wore out over time.
I did use it a lot though, and was also my only controller for most of the time.
These things just wear out with sufficient use.

Whats the best third party controllers you guys have used? I'm starting to consider getting one if only because it'll be cheaper than selling my blood for a Steel Stick.

What's a good S video cable for the 64? It looks like most of the recommended cables aren't being made anymore.

>>11006680
Another regular infamous /vr/ shitposter.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/image/e6yKukxWFFAFqr8DAa4XMw/
TL;DR Hoards high quality N64 controllers and gloats about it with pic attached like a Redditor.

>>11006680
>>11011042
Here's another.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/image/Pk8Fk8iMMYkZtR-pGWeXAw/

I just really want to drive home that there are multiple people making metal parts for N64 sticks that are of equal or greater quality to steel sticks and often cheaper and in greater stock

>>11011042
>>11011049
His motive:
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7073860/#7075920

>>11010884
>doesnt support transfer pak
it stinks! it stinks! it...
>lets you swap between memory pak and rumble pak at the push of a button
ok it's kinda based

>>11010948
I was suggested the wire from Insurrection Industries.
It was out of stock when I wanted to but eventually went in stock. Maybe keep checking, I dont know the frequency of when they restock

>>11011072
>Comes pre-lubed
Oh coo-
>Still has the same dated ware-and-tear stick issue
Get Monkey Pawed, faggot.

>>11011081
would a fair argument be NSO controllers are great for players 2-4, but not ideal for player 1?

>>11010945
Retro-Bit Tribute 64 is a decent option
Don't listen to anyone who claims the Hori minipad is better. It's not. In fact it's kinda shit because of the stick. Even the cheapest chinkiest most chinesium N64 controllers I've seen don't have sticks that click in, but the Hori does. It's literally just a standard third party analog stick like you'd see on some non-branded DualShock clone complete with a fucking L3 for some reason.

>>11010948
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233708952325

I use this. I have an RGB modded N64, but for whatever reason my CRT doesn't let you fiddle with image settings on an RBG signal, forcing me to settle on S-Video. I like it, it gives a far superior image than a shitty chinese one on amazon would, and it looks/feels durable and bespoke.

Official versions exist ofc, but good fucking luck lol

>>11011104

>>11011059
Tell us who they are or you are full of shit.

>>11011059
>I just really want to drive home
Only 4 more years until your old enough

>>11010884
So these do have the original sticks?
If I'm buying an N64 controller I'm buying it for the N64 controller feel.

>>11011668
I already kind of spoonfed by mentioning taostyx64 and speed running. Imagine what N64 speed runners do since N64 sticks wear out so quickly. They literally wear their sticks down in less than a month. What they do is autistically make better and better metal parts for n64 sticks over and over again, and they talk about it on discord and sell them on small shops that mostly only speed runners know about. They NEED those metal parts. So if you want a metal stick, FUCK steel sticks. It's time to hop on discord to find out where the sticks, bowls, gears, caps, gates, etc are. Most parts are available at all times. Usually the stick is what you have to wait for "drops" on. They get sold regularly though.

>>11006023
I bought the official Switch controller and use a blueretro adapter. Expensive? Yes. Does it work? Like a fucking dream and a half.

>>11012363
>>11011081
The stick is the same but the actual internal mechanism is completely different. It's like a weird hodge podge of the N64 gears/spring and modern controller stickboxes with trimpot resistors. It actually moves and tracks authentically like the original stick, and for me that's enough.

>>11006023
there is no definitive replacement and there never will be. it is literally impossible to recreate 100% because the original factories no longer exist. the original experience is now completely lost to time. if you were not born at the right time, you will never experience true n64.

>>11014707
The recent official wireless 64 controller for NSO is literally 1 for 1 with the original controller

>>11015587
I use one on my own N64, and even though it feels identical it actually isn't internally.
It uses potentiometers instead of optical encoders, but the bowl also comes lubed from the factory to prolong the stick's life.
Unless the stick starts to drift, though, I'm perfectly content with it.

>>11014707
It's like crying over the fact that original, Roman crucifixion is an experience lost to time.
Some things are better left in the past. Mashing a stick is the same experience as mashing any other stick - it's just your unwillingness to let things go making it seem special to you.

>>11015591
are opticals really that tough to manufacture? seems like no one can just do it and resort to hall effect or potentiometers

>>11015917
If you ignore all the manchildren and speedrunning transgender women and just look at the functionality of what a stick does, there's no good reason to use a more expensive production process. All a stick does is spitting out x and y coordinates.