/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
BETA V2: https://files.catbox.moe/tc0rgk.wad

Fraggot (Deathmatch session is scheduled for June 2)
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : UDMF
RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3nq7bg.zip

=== NEWS ===
[5-30] Rise of the Triangles is on IDGames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21188

[5-30] Little Italo, tribute to the Italo Doom
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3549

[5-27] Zandronum-compatible Colorful Hell released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1252561#p1252561

[5-26] AMC Squad v4.5 released
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news/amc-squad-45-interim-edition-released

[5-25] MBF64, D64 gameplay mod for MBF21 is released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143161/

[5-23] Extinction Warrior Typhon released
https://skelegant.itch.io/extinction-warrior-typhon

[5-23] Voices of the Nether, a 14-map episode for Doom 64 has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/145337

[5-21] Polish Doom Community Project 1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141953

[5-21] VanillaPSX, Playstation aesthetic for vanilla Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/144075

[5-20] Corruption Cards updated to 6.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1252393#p1252393

[5-20] Malice Jam is released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/malice-jam.358/

[5-18] Tomb of Thunder, a Quake mod since very long development is finally released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tomb-of-thunder.357/

[5-17] Nugget Doom version 3.1 released
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases

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Some deathmatching will be held on the 2nd of June, expect announcement from a our Fraggot project lead

RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3nq7bg.zip

As development concluded, some deathmatching session will be held on the 2nd of June. Expect announcement from our Fraggot project lead.

Fraggot RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3nq7bg.zip

>>10978116
What would the gameplay be?

Finally getting back to community wads and mods. Having a blast with it so far. I like hellrider.

>>10979756
hope you checked if your license expired or not first so you didn't accidentally engage in piracy

Doesn't the vrdepot link in OP kind of obsolete the vrbin one? Why have both?

Are there any conversions with Resident Evil level of ammo management, besides Divine Frequency? Ashes felt a bit frugal at times, too.

>>10979813
>using ammo

>>10979780
There's also wadsup dokuwiki which may as well supersede both of them given the proper treatment, so that's three. For now they all serve largely dissimilar kind of purposes.

>>10979813
Do you mean like, something that makes ammo more scarce? Hideous Destructor has an addon called Ugly as Sin that lets you customize the “scarcity” of items, weapons, and ammo.

I guess it also depends on which RE game you’re using as a reference. RE4 would often have several enemies per encounter dropping the ammo I’d need.

>>10979842
RE4 was a bit dynamic on that, most ammo types are given based on whether or not you have the relevant weapon, and it also scales drops by how well you're doing, so if you're kicking ass you get less ammo, but it you're struggling you get more.

I personally dislike that kind of scaling in theory, though RE4 executes it well enough that it doesn't perceptibly hurt the gameplay, the parts which I think are challenging are so even when you're stocked on ammo.

>>10979842
I want a TC or a game that's designed with scarcity in mind. Best case, the ammo serves as a key to exploration, and has nuanced use, like multi-hits with piercing or spray weapons, or damage type affinities. Dead Space or RE4 approach, where ammo isn't really lacking, but feeds into economy, is ok too. Makes it satisfying to use it judiciously.

>>10979780
Also, 'obsolete' is adjective, not a verb.

>>10979835
wadsup is only doom stuff though. sum ting vry wong wouldn't be there.

>>10979954
I mean, I don't see why couldn't host just our own non-Doom stuff there, it's not that much.

>>10979927
ESL and all that. Thanks though, I'll remember it. Always looking to fix my broken fucking English for lore-improving purposes.

>>10979927
>>10979970

It's recognized as a verb as well, actually, most typically in 3rd person present or past tense (obsoletes/obsoleted).

>>10979970
It's morphological form kind of implies it's a verb, so I used it the same until it started to sound weird and I checked with the dictionary.

>>10979993
Here you go, I'm full-fledged ESL too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00CHVl-03tg

>has one bad encounter with a demon at the start of the game
>just assumes all demons he meets from then on are hostile

>>10980003
Its*
Now we're even, anon. =)

>>10979968
I guess. For the sake of tidyness I think a "4 chan project" list or "non-doom" list would be best as a separate section, outside the tagging system. Like the tutorial section.

Why are codex fags so obsessed with Half Life?

>>10980003
>ESL.tv
Interview reads like something from a Boy Band clip

>>10979721
I want to give this a try
>>10978507
I'll start with something small and full of poorly drawn placeholders and see how things develop themselves from there.

>>10980008
what's stopping you from doing a self-defense only run?

>>10979835
>wadsup dokuwiki
New additions and edits from the past week
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=dorian_s_doom
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=obituary
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=action_doom_2
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=rise_of_the_triangles_rc1
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=hellscape
Revae also posted some of his old pass-around quicktip images in tutorials section

>>10980175
Doom but you need to be hit once by every enemy before you can fight them.

>>10980175
I saw that imp reaching

>>10980008
>be racist against demons
>be alone with lots of demons, and lots of guns
>get opportunity to violently kill MANY demons on sight with no consequences

Doomguy was put in a self defense situation, he had to shoot through those crowds of demons to defend himself

>>10980382
Killing of demons is always self-defense.

>>10980353
Not Doom but for Duke Nukem 3d even though the aliens are invading earth, in many places it kinda feels like you're busting in to some anti-alien hate crimes while they're just going about their business like aliens taking a shit or the pig cops at the porno booths.

Something like Duke Nukem 3d / Ion Fury with just a tad more set dressing and not...plot but setpieces with talking antagonists and some friendly characters too would be really hard up my alley.

>>10980385
capcha: NNG AY H

>>10980236
I forgot this site existed. I added my wad to it.

>>10980442
Fun doodle. Love it, was doodling stuff myself too. I really like how you did the expression etc and I need to practice drawing anime eyes and mouths more

>>10980008
seems doom 2016 is almost possible to beat as a pacifist, judging by the amount of sequence breaking in speedruns

>>10980453
I thought it was 1.0.6? You uploaded 1.0.5. Will it be on the idgames soon?

>>10980442
I'll make exceptions for SOME cute demons.

>>10980467 (Me)
The only change is a title pic it seems, no matter then.

It's cool that you can use Hokuto Shinken in Lt. Typhon, but I wish it didn't still take Bio ammo when you whiff it.

>>10980467
Fuck, I went for the most recent zip file I had in the folder. Which was named 1.05. I fixed it.
>Will it be on idgames soon?
Probably not because it's using some sounds ripped straight from 2016/Eternal. It got rejected last time I submitted it.

>>10980467
A couple of the map names were misspelled, it was a minor fix.

>>10979676
Doom is overrated.
Doom II is underrated.

>>10980518
>It got rejected last time I submitted it.
Considerable amount of such was lost with the wad-archive going down, and with some looking you can spot plenty of abandoned project threads with wads uploaded to various places. It's good to have alternatives and mirrors in any case.

>>10980442
BULLY
with headpats

Caco is a bit jealous seeing Doomguy giving heatpats out

>>10980569

I think I'm a little too casual for Selaco's hardcore mode.

If you could Bring Your Own Class to BYOC (as in your own design), what/who would you bring?

>>10980518
>Probably not because it's using some sounds ripped straight from 2016/Eternal. It got rejected last time I submitted it.
They have so many double standards with that shit.

>>10980660
Okay hear me out on this one: A heavily NES themed class. Like the Spread Gun from Contra, and the cannon from Blaster Master.

>>10980453
Vry nice.

>>10980660
If I had absolute freedom I'd probably use a class I've had in a design document for a while where they augment themselves with meat or mechanical parts from monster kills and their stuff varies depending on whether they go exclusive / both / neither in what they eat.

>>10980661
Yeah, I'm not really going to bother with getting it up on idgames because I can't be bothered to replace all the copywritten stuff in the wad.

>>10980663
That exists... What was it tho.
Had spread shot, rapid fire something. I recall the projectile sprites blinking like old NES games did when they hit the render limit

>>10980675
Contra Doom, one of the earlier works produced here.

>>10980661
BTSX with FreeDoom.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/btsx_e1
(although it's in the official Doom port now, so I guess they retroactively get a pass on that)

>>10980683
Oh yeah. I forgot it was just called contra doom
I liked it.

>>10980690
Plenty of bigger wads on there contain palate-swapped vanilla sprites too, not even edited in any way just converted and stuffed in there as a truecolour format.

>>10980690
>>10980696
I think as long as it's not an exact binary match to IWAD files it's okay by /idgames rules. BTSX integrates the sprite fix project and converts them to its own palette, so while it does have sprites based on and resembling the IWAD resources, technically speaking they are distinct assets.

>>10980724
I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly just an MD5 check from a bunch of known lists, though I also wouldn't be surprised if they just skip over checking if it's somebody they like.

>>10980610
Try to beat the game softcore first before attempting hardcore.

>>10974895
relite
I think it's by the same guy. Takes longer to load maps, but they're supposedly less peformance intensive. Maybe I have it backwards.

>>10980804
I think there might be a psx or D64 lighting mod too? Not sure of their names though. probably something obvious like"psx lighting"

>>10980690
BTSX technically includes palette fixed versions of the sprites, rather than completely unmodified resources. And it does so because otherwise they would look like a garbled mess with the wads unique palette.
>>10980724
>BTSX integrates the sprite fix project
Apparently only E1 does this. Neither E2 (which is also in the official port) nor The E3 preview include them.

>>10980660
Animal Mother from Full Metal Jacket, complete with the absolutely virulent racist remarks.

>>10980660
I'd port a soldier I made for a mm8bdm mod years ago. Maybe give him more weapons to fill the missing slots. Most of his weapons are mix of ww2 and futuristic with small twists, and his slot 7 would be some ancient artifact.

>>10980817
Better you than me

>>10980846
That looks so cool
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v7cFGneuaw
Does it have a banging soundtrack?

>>10980878
Thanks. The character himself is just part of a gameplay mod, so no sountrack, heh. The map is some old deathmatch map I made (not really fit for DM because it's too big) with this music in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umC-rYfYec8

what's the best way to experience PSX doom nowadays, Doom CE lite?

>>10980816
>Apparently only E1 does this.
Wonder why.

Does anyone have the sonderkommando leak? I lost it and links are dead

>>10980929
https://files.catbox.moe/fm8zn4.rar

>>10980929
https://litter.catbox.moe/d1yw8g.rar

how do i disable the blurry depth of view

>>10981029
I'm not sure if I remember this right but try
gl_texturemode GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR

But you should really just use Ironwail if you're going for a more retro look. Quakespasm is kinda pointless unless you're on an absolute toaster that doesn't support newer versions of OpenGL.

>>10980943
Wow that was fast thank you

>>10981048
You're welcome

That was really fucking good. 11/10 soundtrack.
How is Valiant?
Thinking about playing it next since it's by the same author.

>>10980943
didn't know this existed and I missed it, 404'd

Thoughts on Turok?

>>10981187
It's okay. About as good as a console FPS can be.

>>10979813
the cop-out answer would be Total Chaos, personally I enjoyed it but your mileage may vary, you might not like the focus on melee and questionable mobility system
it's nowhere near as nuanced as RE but some items like nails can be used to enhance baseball bats, make bombs, or as ranged ammo for the nailgun

>>10981091
valiant is good but it's not overly inventive and wacky with its encounter designs, just halls and rooms of monsters to kill
disclaimer: haven't played the hell maps, too hard

>>10980817
Thank god for the sickle cell huh anon

>Clean Up Hell mod
>Doom Gals companion mod
> the gals kill stuff while I clean up their mess
holy fuck what did i just combined

>>10981318
It's ok bro, let the big strong grils take care of those monsters while you do the chores for them.

>>10981297
I love how through much of his screen time, Animal Mother just hurls out all kinds of incredibly hateful and vile shit right to Eightball's face, but when Eightball gets shot and pinned down by a VC sniper, Animal Mother loses it.
Cowboy says it's no use, but Animal Mother tells him to fuck off and defies his orders, rushing out into the line of fire and blasting his M60 from his hip.

>>10981374
That's how they get away with the "all fucking niggers must fucking hang" moment. Classic film that'll live forever.

>>10981318
>Clean Up Hell
Seriously, this should be made into a joke arsenal mod.

>>10981091
Valiant is excellent, not as difficult or wacky as Ancient Aliens though.

>tfw there's a version of Aleph One that works in Win9x

It's crazy to me that only Marathon 2 got an official Windows port back in the day. Very cool game good atmosphere.

>>10981297
I read recently that sickle cell became genetically prevalent in Africa because malaria can't infect people with sickle cell as easily.
Dunno if it's true, but I found it interesting enough to repeat randomly on the internet.
Good fucking movie though.

>>10981396
I'm gonna tear ya a new asshole.

>>10981145
https://litter.catbox.moe/3may8k.rar

perhaps to them, we were the demons

>>10981525
Nope, nuh uh. All we did was open a few portals. They drew first blood.

>>10981525
Doesn't matter. If they're the enemy that attacks us then the should be gunned down. Moral relativists are at best naive idiots and at worst straight up 5th column agents that should be contained or neutralized.

Augur Zenith with the Ashes Weapons + Monsters works pretty well. A bit more grunge for the setting but the gangs and mutants work.

>>10981529
>All we did was break into their house and they shot at us.

>>10981578
>the broke into my house
>so instead of escaping and calling the police I brutally murdered them
>then I broke into their house and killed their families in the sequel

>what if we took a tanky hitscanner...and made him fast.

>>10981680
He's not that tanky and the minigun lizards and ass commanders imo helped alleviate the lack of enemy variety in Duke ep 1.

>>10981318

>>10981680
you could've posted the mini-battlelord and had something resembling a point but you went with an enemy that dies in one shotgun blast plus a kick or two

>>10980442
KILL THE DEMON

>>10981680
Duke hitscanners don't have to be understatted like Doom's because they don't have perfect tracking. You can avoid most damage just by strafing them.

>>10981747
Doom shotgun against chaingunners isn't really any better a matchup than Duke shotgun against enforcers, either. If you don't use cover and you don't get lucky with both A_Chase attack rolls and shotgun damage rolls, you're probably going to make a trade.

>>10981753
Poor ojisan put the one way mirror around the wrong way

Selaco is so fucking GOATED (currently on E1M3 after 5 hours of Admiral hardcore), it's not just tacticool Doom (that would be mediocre mods like Brutal Doom or Siren), it's Brutal Doom + Star Wars Jedi Outcast (the extremely aggressive storm troopers balanced by projectile attacks) + Vanquish/Ultrakill. The mooks are the best of any corridor shooter, significantly better balanced and stronger in terms of moves than FEAR or CoD-- for once in a zoom-based cover shooter sitting back and plinking is completely non-viable on the highest difficulty, you have to engage them guerilla style and either outstrafe their bullets or have high enough headshot accuracy to cancel their windup with painstate (they have two, a small and large btw) or an instant flying kick, and defensively juggle the seperate dash jump and slide/slide jump cooldown combined with diagonal strafing+mouse turning (faster than side strafing) to escape their rushdown tactics until they enter reload and you can finish them off. And that's not even getting into how good the level design and secret hunting is. Incredibe accomplishment by the devs

Buy an ad.

Is Opposing Force that good? Better than Half-Life? I see it was made by Gearbox and I thought they were hated around here.

>>10981995
It's almost as good as Half-Life. It is 100% worth playing.

>>10981995
it was like the first fucking thing they ever did, or close to it, the grease hadn't had time to accumulate yet

>you got Hexen in my Duke
>>10981995
It's a fun expansion before Gearbox became too silly, and you get everyone's favorite thing of the time: Tacticool gloves.

>>10982008
Your Hexen, your Duke, what's the difference?

has any wad ever made use of the rpg's tiered recolors? it already sort of works with knights and barons

>>10982034
Colorful Hell.

>>10981402
>litter.
Use files., you shortsighted dimwit!

>>10982008
every time i see Hexen trees i hear the night birds

>>10982038
But anon
>.rar
is a file!

>>10981995
yeah it's pretty good

Halloa!

>>10982038
https://files.catbox.moe/fm8zn4.rar

>>10981984
Looking forward to playing it in +2 years from now if/when it leaves EA.

>>10981984
I do not like Selaco. Sorry, I will not buy it.

>>10981995
Opposing Force is a must-play IMO. The "Race X" shit is a little weird but whatever. My favourite part is where you get the M249 and first encounter the assassins.

Any mapmakers here.
How do you get over creative block?
Making a level itself is the easy part for me, coming up with the level layout itself is my worst enemy.

>>10982174
have they patched the music for this and BShift yet?

>>10982182
Just wait until AI generated maps become big, and you'll be obsolete.

>>10982193
You mean playing the OST made for the expansions? Yeah that's been patched for years now. If you mean having the music keep playing during a level transition then no

>>10982204
>If you mean having the music keep playing during a level transition then no
yeah that's what i'm talking about. these game usually load some music before the loading screen to prepare the next area and make the cut less awkward.

>>10982182
just make shit 99.999% of people can't tell a good map from a bad one anyways

>>10982182
literally juts doodle. if it's shit then delete and start over. go outside and look at and inside buildings

>>10982210
From what I'm hearing this is hard coded into the engine to only keep the music playing if the modname is "valve", so only Half-Life gets the fix basically. I think they would do this this way is because DoD and CS:CZ have music playing in the menu and they don't want that music to keep playing when you join a game. I think having a value to control this should be in liblist.gam and default to no if it isn't specified there. That way both Valve and modders can have control if they want the fix or not

>>10982256
oh
Valve fixed it in HL iirc

>>10982024
>>10982042
It went to being nice and tropical for a bit.
And now this. Whoa.

>>10982271
kino

>>10982082
Nicely done anon, your pretty cool

>Open auto map
> >600 monsters
Oh boy! I'm sure this map will have a very fun run time, and won't just do the "lol just put le monsters everywhere!!" thing!

>>10982293
>it’s 550 zombies that get crushed 30 seconds in
lmaoo
>the other 50 monsters are archviles
>they spawn while you’re in an open field
oh

>>10982293
>everywhere
You wish. No one "puts" that much monsters anywhere, they will just teleport them all to your room. At best it might be a fuckhuge closet. Actually manually placing 600 monsters or even teleport exits is insane.

>>10982082
nice.
it's a pity it will never be completed.

uhh, if you map doesn't have at least 600 demons you need to reconsider your life choices

If I open a door and am not immediately deafened by a chorus of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAs, it's a shit map

>>10982202
You don't know how game development works.

>>10982202
>>10982341
Slige/Sludge/Oblige/Obsidian has existed for fucking decades, it hasn't done anything to make mappers obsolete.

>>10982202
Jus wait until AI generated AI becomes big, and AI'll be obsolete.

Mistery of Underville map for Heretic appeared to be quite good. It is huge, like a Hexen hub in size, but plays differently. Reminded me more of Romero Q1 maps, where you can run forward most of the time and switches always opens the closest door, not something on the other side of the hub.

>>10982358
>Slige/Sludge/Oblige/Obsidian has existed for fucking decades

Imagine a website where you can just enter a prompt and generate a wad like an image. Or load an image and use that to generate a wad somehow.

>>10981984
Happy for you, anon. Or sorry it happened.

>>10982301
>it’s 550 zombies that get crushed 30 seconds in
this but they're only crushed at the very end instead

>>10982481
this but they crush you between their thighs

>>10982481
>30 secrets
>exit stairway has 29 of them

>>10980582
>ass general
ow

>>10982572
>a dozen megaspheres are stacked on top of each other
>zandronum announcer blows out your speakers

>>10982293
Lol when I see a monster count like that I just menu and exit, get fucked amirite

>>10982429
You don't even need a prompt, you get a wad every day.
https://soulsphere.org/hacks/slige/

So with Fraggot being played tomorrow, can somebody give me the quick and dirty on how to do this shit? Which sourceport? Been playing Doom for 30 years and have almost never touched deathmatch lol

>>10982639
Still has too much of that pesky human element. You lack vision, but I see a big soulless machine pumping out millions of AI generated wads a minute, outcompeting even the most dedicated human wad makers. My God, it'll be beautiful!

>>10982689
What human element? It's entirely automated and has been doing it for nearly 22 fucking years.

>>10982706
It could be more inhuman and oppressive. Only one wad a day? You'll never render humans obsolete like that!

>>10981750
implessive

this is nice

the further i get in ancient aliens the more i'm starting to think it might be my favorite wad i've played so far in my admittedly small amount of doom experience. it feels like a real adventure with each stage being connected and on map 15 the whole "several small maps connected by ufo trips" was really fun. i just wish i was good enough at doom to be able to clear these levels without having to save two or three times during them, but each map is just so damn long that i can't deal with dying and having to start over.

really though i love doom, i never thought i would but it's like every time i think i've seen it all i'll check out the next wad and it'll show me fun new gameplay ideas and mapping ideas.

>>10982757
goatse.wad

>>10982778
>goatse.wad
Never post that ever again.

>>10982781
I see you're an imp encounter fan.

>>10982784
For me it's 2 imps 1 chainsaw

>>10982778
>>10982781
post it

>Tomb of Thunder, a Quake mod since very long development is finally released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tomb-of-thunder.357/
UberMonsters are cool, but I hate wasting more time accessing the very first secret on map1 than stumbling upon the super-secret somehow. Also I managed to clear the entire first level without picking up the Nailgun.

I am enjoying Ion Fury Aftershock and I am looking forward to Phantom Fury and Selaco too!

>>10982687
Download Zandronum here, press the first download link : https://zandronum.com/download
Install.
Put doom2.wad in your Zandronum folder.
Run Doomseeker, press ctrl+f to help find the server and click on it. It will download fraggot for you and let you get in.

>>10982840
TIL that Ion Fury runs fine in Zeta-Touch even on 150 bucks low-mid phone, don't need to boot a PC now to play it. Pic unrelated, it's another nice texturing from Outerville heretic.

>>10981707
YES!
Hot demon killing chicks make me into their salaryless janny

>>10981984
Good for you, anon. Maybe Ill try it once my wad backlog isn't so long idk
>>10982083
>Early Access
>31 maps
Why even call it Early Access at that point? They could've just said "version 1.00" or something and update it more down the line anyways.

>>10982182
I got inspired to make my 2048 map by going thru the village in dark souls ii and wanting to make something kinda like it.

>>10982769
Play Ancient Aliens with Kriegsland enemies, the first level will make you shit bricks.

Been a while in these threads.
Is the Waifu lead anon okay?

>>10981318
>>10982862
Isn't that the mod where you give them hoagies to heal them? They also give you buffs by cheering and I think blowing you kisses. So it's a harem househusband sim.

>>10982964
Sounds like DoomGals, yeah

capcha: RYNASS

>>10982860
>TIL that Ion Fury runs fine in Zeta-Touch even on 150 bucks low-mid phone, don't need to boot a PC now to play it.
GZDoom would struggle to even load up on that thing.
Duke FTW, baby.
Ken Silverman won.

>>10982895
It's baffling
>why EA?
>word salad
>what's in EA?
>substantial polished game
Seems like they are shooting themselves in the foot when they could sell it to make a bank now, and make another bank in a couple of years without pissing anyone off.
One thing to note though, the levels are broken up into multiple maps, so the demo level is three maps, but it's around the size of an Ashes Afterglow level.

>Quake Combat+
damn this slaps, why only 8/10 on moddb?

>>10982860
>TIL that Ion Fury runs fine in Zeta-Touch

All I get is a black screen.

>>10983057
Wait, never mind, it just takes a minute to load.

>>10983009
>>10982895
Honestly the Early Access aspect of it has made me hold off on getting it.

>>10982182
This is blatant contradiction. Making a level is making a level layout, they're not different from each other. Whether you develop the layout on the fly or plan it out in advance makes no difference. The level itself is the level layout.

how do i restore EAX in Postal 2 on Win 11? i have a Sound Blaster but it's USB so i doubt it's compatible with Alchemy

>>10983112
Maybe some of this could help
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Glossary:Sound_card

Thoughts on Sonar Shock?

>>10983023
The dev is a codex schizo

>>10983127
Not retro.

>>10983131
hey, you missed all the Ion fury discussion above

>>10983139
Godot isn't a retro engine, EDuke32 is.

>>10983148
>Godot isn't a retro engine

It would have been if it had been made available sooner, but we spent too much time waiting for Godot.

>>10983148
Well then stop discussing Ashes and Selaco here because GZDoom sure as shit isn't a retro engine either, given how far removed it is from Carnack's code.

>>10983159
>Ashes
Out of all the things you could have picked, you picked the one that requires Doom2.wad to play.

Congratulations bro, you are a winner.

>>10983125
thanks. i've tried most of this but no luck. i'm probably missing something but i'm tired i need to sleep

>>10983181
I'd love to see you try to run GZDoom on a 486, niggie.

speaking of not so retro, warlock 2 is the second time I've thought "damn I wanna fuck those imps" in a sprite based fps
also how did they just steal the shambler wholesale

TELL ME YOUR OPINION

>>10983203
I THINK DOOM IS PRETTY FUN

>>10983197
>how did they just steal the shambler wholesale
Quake didn't invent the dimensional shambler.

>>10983207
oh, so they didn't, didn't know they were in the same camp as shub beat the niggur

>>10982840
Is this going to be the new Ogay?

So Selaco is good?

Anyone know of a good way to play Shadow Warrior coop? I want to play with two Wangs at the same time.

>>10983139
>>10983159

Ah yes shut down all the actual game discussion so we can have more ''doom more like dumb!'' and ''doom but you are peepee poopoo man'' tier gemmy posts.

If Doom's development took 15 months, why can't people just develop a TC/game under that time?

>>10983281
TCs are usually solo developers, and they're usually stuck wrangling the engine into doing what they want, rather than building it to do what they want.

>>10983281
Doom development was also Id Software guys practically living at the office working on the game.

Yeah a small dev ''can'' develop a game in that time if they sacrifice everything else for that. And nothing guarantees the game will be a resounding success that's worth all the trouble. And some game / mod projects do get completed in similar timeframes.

>>10983281
>why can't people just develop a TC/game under that time?
Looking at Selaco, it probably has a lot to do with making excessive and anachronistic visual effects, coming up with long and superfluous 'lore' text, and spending all day on social media trying to write pithy gotcha responses to critiques before blocking people.

Mostly that last one.

>>10983301
I remember some time last year Batandy posted here about the immense amount of effort that goes into making TCs compared to anything else.

It sounds fucking exhausting, especially if it's by yourself or a very small team.

so what's the deal with fullscreen exclusive/borderless window? apparently borderless window is fine now? but is this only for people with 120hz+ monitors?

was pissed off for the longest time that Dusk didn't have a true fullscreen exclusive mode, the game felt like ass to play with near-vsync levels of input latency. only recently found out how to force the game to proper fullscreen and now I can finally play it.

>>10983339
Easy to ALT-TAB out of borderless windowed (because everyone is fucking with Dicksword or something else while playing games now) + borderless latency isn't that much of an issue anymore unless you have a toaster.

>>10983339
I work from home so it's pretty much a requirement for being able to retain sanity during the downtimes, also because some stuff lol GzDoom has a habit of losing it's shit when I frequently tab out to another screen with it on fullscreen mode.

IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SAFE. GUESS AGAIN MOTHERFUCKERS BECAUSE IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

Finished Outerville, last fight was gruelling, passed it on 2hp on a third time. Overall can recommend it as a tribute to Q1 ep1, huge interconnected map with zero backtracking.

>>10983424
*Underville

>>10983430
*Innerville

>>10982202
>I think Slige maps are good

>>10983424
>>10983430
>>10983457
*Nexttoville

>>10982781
hello.bsp

>>10983197
wh-what was the first one

>>10982860
>>10983424
Link to the map?

>>10981029
What map is this

>>10982271
That's really fucking cool.

>>10981029
What map is this

>>10983482
I’m way too into it all right now. >>10983229 was fun for a few hours but I’m loving this WG map pack through this mod.
>>10983479
>>10983505
Looks like Arcane Dimension’s ad_azad

I see that since Doom 64EX's release, there have been many, many other releases. Which one would be the closest being the equivalent of Crispy or Chocolate for D64? is EX still the closest (open source) one?

>>10983579
Using a recompiling tool on the original N64 ROM would be the most accurate way to play.

>>10983579
just play the original ROM on PJ64 with a wired controller dude

Daily reminder that the only proper way to play any DOOM or Quake game is to try and beat it on the highest difficulty without dying. Any death is a restart from the beginning.

>>10983593
Ironman rules, Mr. Barnes?

Did I do good, anons? Am I bad at video games?
Also I played with Harsh Invasion.

>>10983603
How many episodes are out?

>>10983605
Oh wow never mind. Alright lemme pick it up. I normally dislike early access for this reason.

>>10983597
It changes the game completely. It goes from a casual experience to the ultimate form of gameplay. Going for a deathless run of DOOM or equivelant is more of a survival horror experience than something like Resident Evil could ever hope to achieve. You make it through a few levels, you die, you start over. The next time, you make it a little further. Each and every time, you gain a greater appreciation of the game's nuances. Suddenly, every item, every secret, every powerup, every single decision, it all has a weight and meaning that a casual playthrough can never capture. You aren't just trying to beat the game, you are trying to fucking SURVIVE. You have to plan, strategize, and execute with absolute perfection -- or you die. It is the only way to play.

>>10983603
did you play the bonus level? they buried a whole extra level in there without telling

>>10983608
No I get it anon, I was just quoting/misquoting this part in Syriana:
https://youtu.be/0snGkVX5IlA?t=124

>>10983605
Episode 1 out of 3, there's only 1 currently.
If you're asking content-wise: It took me a total of 18 hours to complete this, keep in mind I was playing on Admiral and because of my play-style my health was always 35 and I could never stay still.
>>10983614
How do I reach the bonus level?

>Hold alt in Trenchbroom
>Right click anywhere, you rotate along where you clicked
That feels good on the eyes somehow.

>>10983624
Reach security card 6 then go to the big green outdoor area in level 8. I used the train to find them

>>10983608
i'm doing this very thing right now in doom 64. currently on map 7 (research lab), made it through outpost omega and got the unmaker and demon key before moving on. almost got fucked by the death pit on alpha quadrant, fucking ~20 spectres and nasty pain elementals but i somehow survived with 188 hp/armor to tell the tale. i rarely make it this far. worried about even simpler, that's where i usually get BTFO. i think if i can make it past there, i have a chance of finishing since the hell levels aren't typically as devious with the random pits and traps. wish me luck.

>>10983229
Goty 2024

>>10983634
Wow, how did I not know about this.

hhhhnnnngggggggggggggg

>>10983703
It's so satisfying I can't get over it. I'm just using it when I shouldn't.

>>10983681
Until Astro bot releases… ;)

Neat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRM1B1GPM_g

>>10983730
That's pretty fucking neat. I really like the nailgun. Ditching the axe and making the shotgun infinite is an interesting choice.

>>10983734
>I really like the nailgun
Same and I'm not really sure why. The blockiness and the different sound makes it feel like a bigger gun I think.

>>10983730
You're telling me an indie dev isn't marketing this as a 'boomer shooter' and trying to sell it for $40 in Steam early access?

>>10983757
There's a link in the description and you play it in your browser.
https://js13kgames.com/games/q1k3/index.html

>>10983464
Never @ me or my son ever again.

>>10983247
The people you quoted are for free game discussion, cleanse your brain rot.
>>10983281
They were already industry pros. Romero's been coding games since 1980.
It's also probably a big motivator to work on something that no one's ever seen before, as opposed to stepping up to the pantheon of old.
Also, some do just crank em out, look at Shrine and Shrine 2.

>>10983730
I could've done it in 12kb

what port are we using for fraggot dm later? zandro? odamex?

>>10983593
No, that's more of a self-imposed challenge and good for you if you enjoy it I guess.

I like to do one map at a time instead of the whole game. Going multiple levels deep and then dying feels like such tedium / wasted effort. I do enjoy greatly level-based no-saving rules for Quake and Doom though especially when you feel like the map was meant to accommodate that.

Episode 1 from Doom 1 saveless UV? Doable. The rest? Not bothering unless I would be attempting some speed/challengerun and also streaming it on twitch with at least some potential for being compensated for the tedium of restarts.

>>10983410

>>10984009
It's amazing that no one bothered to make some comfy suburbs kino before.
how much long?

>>10983593
The proper way to play is to beat it on the highest difficulty and punch yourself in the balls every time you die. If you're not sterile by the end of the game, you win.

Playing JCPC with the Final Doomer weapon pack The energy katana + berserk pack + nerf effect by the needle weapon makes every enemy melt like butter. Including spider masterminds and cyberdemons. Revenants turn into a complete joke because the pain state triggers on every hit and since your slaashes also destroy projectiles you need not be that careful of them anymore.

Final Doomer does break the voodoo puppet traps on MAP011, unfortunately.

>>10983470
who else could it possibly be

>tried playing doom as a kid
>get severe anxiety playing and turn it off
>tried playing doom as an adult
>get severe anxiety playing and turn it off

why the fuck does the soundtrack give me a panic attack every time no other game does this to me but doom.

>>10983730
demakes are cute!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c13cxyXcDtQ

>>10984009
comfy

>>10984070
We told you N64 is a bad console.

>>10984070
>why the fuck does the soundtrack give me a panic attack every time no other game does this to me but doom.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/music/beatles
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/music/beatles2

Here, this might help. Rip and tear to the Beatles instead.

guys

waht if

guys

what if doomguy

is a scp

>>10984102
Doomguy vs Able, who wins?

>>10983730
really digging the vibe. the sounds and music are on point. i'd play a full game of this if it had its own maps

>>10984009
This for the DIY sequel? Cause that's looking to be cool as fuck.

>>10984102
>DOOM & SCP
Whoa, that's like the perfect crossover, I can't believe that nobody has ever thought of this before

>>10984130
>I can't believe that nobody has ever thought of this before

Oh, that's very simple, it's because of [DATA EXPUNGED], and [DATA EXPUNGED], and when [DATA EXPUNGED] went and did [DATA EXPUNGED], everything went completely [DATA EXPUNGED].

Oooh so mysterious.

>>10984135
Stop being so REDACTED, anon.

Take me back to those days. Please.

>>10983927
>cleanse your brainrot
Indeed, must've been my exhausted 2am brain. My apologies.

>>10984070
Sounds like there's more to it than the soundtrack. Only Doom does this or other games as well?
I believe you're making this up but I replied anyway because the feeling of certain elements causing anxiety / fear or a level of uncomfortable is imo what made a lot of the Build Engine shooters like Shawdow Warrior and Blood so very impactful on me. There were a lot of elements that felt very eerie, initially offputting and dark but I pushed myself to go deeper and I grew to unconsciously love that dark, pulpy vibe.

>>10984125
It is, yes.

succubus saturday

>>10984151
Bro it's Sunday.

>>10984174
Means we're gonna get another succubus. No complaints here.

ok fine succubus sunday.

>>10984202
Called it. Very nice work, anon.

mancubus sunday!

Sewie sunday

>>10984227
i jus wanna grill these days fer gods sake

Doom but all of the demons are gay.

>>10984316
somehow worse writing than TAG

>>10984264
>>10984202
I am pleased by this.

>>10984320
If the Doom comic was written by Vivziepop:

>Fuckin' rip and goddamn tear!
>You are huge as fuck! That means you have huge guts, you fucking piece of shit!
>Here CUMS the rape train!
>Shit! Now I'm fuckin' radioactive! Ah, fuck me right in my asshole!
>My balls are huge... my ass is tight... and my cock is very, very large!

>>10983730
Oh yeah, that's a cool one. Stuff like this is always neat.

>>10984316
man id love to brutally murder those stupid fucking poser """demons""" bitchasses probably cant even shoot an imp fireball

>>10984008
You don't think you could do E2 and E3 saveless UV? They're not that much harder than E1.

>>10984074
Oh wow that's Doom essentially for the NES right? Really cool.

Currently hosting a Fraggot server with Zandronum.

Server name :
[TSPG] Fraggot RC1 playtesting session for cool people 8)

Doomgirl sunday
i tried. don't you judge her

>>10984304
kek nice

>>10984316

>>10983730
>camping it a Q1 "'demake"' when the coloured lighting is on par with Q2
Zoomers are so wierd in their unwillingnes to admit they're either retarded or disingenious.

>>10984343
pico-8 is way more flexible than the NES, but give or take

>>10983730
Man hours later this thing is way more than neat to me. I'm utterly charmed by it. I'd actually give money for the whole game to be remade exactly like this, filesize not limited to 13kb, and including the scrags, shamblers, etc. I can't believe he got the grunts, enforcers, zombies, dogs, and fucking ogres. The remix and mashup of E1M3 and E1M2 was cool too.

>>10984373
Oh and the music, what little there is of it, is cool too!

>>10984348
error

>>10984363
>throwing a shitfit over a word with no real definition
>still a quake clone in 13kb
missing the forest for the trees

>>10984351
>The virgin doomguy vs the chad doomgirl.

>>10984008
if you can't beat E2 on UV without dying you shouldn't even be posting in this general. you guys fucking suck at video games.

>>10984008
>he needs to save on a single map
Unironically git gud bro.

>>10983472
Here you are - https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102912-heretic-the-mysteries-of-underville-released/

I've tried it with Brutal Heretic first and got my ass delivered to me, ammo shortage is too harsh with BH. Then played it gunslinger style with Half-Life revolver and infinite ammo. Great fun, will replay again. The same guy was doing the castle part of Hexmas zdoom hexen hub.

>>10979676
>OP pic
wads for this feel?

>>10984450
imagine being this scrubby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PIR97SLxYU

>>10984387
I have no idea why you're getting that problem, and the screenshot doesn't explain anything. It's gotta be something on your end, because by now a dozen people have connected successfully.

>>10984054
>Final Doomer does break the voodoo puppet traps on MAP011, unfortunately.
Why? Isn't it a mod that only changes weapons? You should use (OBVIOUSLY) the version that doesn't affect movement

>>10984395
>13kb
Did it seriously took people this goddamn long to finally one-up Kkrieger?

>>10984623
Except .kkrieger looked like this.

>>10984621
It does not break all of them, interestingly. The one at the end works. The one where you pick up the BFG in the green area doesn't. And no, I won't.

So... Does anybody have feedback, or changes for their Fraggot submissions now that we've played it several times now on the server?

Deadline for the final version of Fraggot is 9th of June.

>>10983730
>>10984637
Why not doing something that is bigger than just 13kb?
I mean, for modern computers creating something bigger than hundred of mb is fast

>>10984707
I didn't notice anything broken or obviously unbalanced. It was fun, though.

Why exactly there's so many huge projects made on gzdoom instead of build engine/eduke? I don't mean to exactly belittle doom or anything but it feels like build engine would be better suited for more complex gameplay mechanics (like jumping and having three dimensions to play with) while still having pretty much the same look to it. Is doom just easier to work with?

What does it even mean to be >100% health?

>>10984764
https://youtu.be/qYkicwSeXw0?si=EWBSkVuHAEiwRp-L&t=168

>>10984762
Besides the lack of mapping/modding tools, Build engine codebase is a mess, very fragile and hard to work with. See details here - https://fabiensanglard.net/duke3d/ . For example Ashes 2063 in its levels structure is much closer to Build games, than to Doom wads, but was built on GZDoom because tooling is so much better in it. Also because of this both Raze (advanced engine) and Ion Fury (advanced episode on vanilla eduke32) are very impressive projects.

>>10984818
Ashes was pretty much what prompted this question. It just feels like gzdoom is kinda holding it back.

>10/10 dark fantasy aesthetics
>great combat with tons of items and enemies
>gentle RPG and dungeon crawling elements
>riddled with secrets
>semi-open world design
>99.9% of faggots on planet earth get filtered because they don't pay attention to environmental cues and get filtered by the puzzles
Most underappreciated game ever made.

>>10984837
>great combat with tons of items and enemies

>>10984837
It was appropriately appreciated:

> Heretic and Hexen shipped a combined total of roughly 1 million units by August 1997.

And this is for 320x200 games when for example Witchhaven supported higher res and was released before Hexen. Art and sound in Hexen is my favourite between all 90-s fpss.

>>10984856
>17 enemy types, 2 more than DOOM 2
>24 items with unique weapons for each class and unique flechette abilities
Do you ever get tired of being a gay?

It's uncanny how well this gif fits this song.

https://youtu.be/qz66vCBxbbs

>>10984837
I've played plenty Ultima Underworld, System Shock, Shadow Tower, and blobbers, this just isn't my cup of trash.

>>10984070
Doom was the first game Gabe Newell actually first felt fear whilst playing. When I went through all of it a few years back I remember feeling a bit of fear too even if I had seen all the demons before in other mods on Zandronum with friends. The music + environments do a number on you after a while and I would have to take breaks after a couple of missions - especially since I was playing at 3 in the morning. I kinda get that way with every horror type thing first time through and then once I know what is coming and when I just rip my way through at the speed of light. It does depend on horror games tho or the section. Anything with a strong/invinciblish stalker type that chases/hunts between areas tends to be scary no matter what for me. Things like Thief with excellent sound design and a horror atmosphere are kinda always scary no matter what.

So anyway just push through it and the game gets less scary on repeat. If you download enough gameplay mods for Doom 1 & 2 and then test them - the games get far far less spooky and you get used to blasting through multiple entire episodes in an hour.

>>10984927
>this just isn't my cup of trash
It's not a game for brainlets, so that's understandable.

This burger looks yummy

>>10984937
>Doom was the first game Gabe Newell actually first felt fear whilst playing

The second was Don't Starve.

>>10984960
lol

>>10984973

>>10979680
News: Cutstuff.net (main forums for CutmanMike's mods Ghouls vs Humans and MM8BDM) shut down yesterday because shit was unstable, but it now has a replacement forum in https://mm8bdm.net/forum..

8bdm may be too distant of a community, but the game is still a total conversion for Doom.

>>10984979
That image needs a final panel at the bottom that shows present date Gaben (the guy lost a lot of weight)

>>10983410

>>10985068
Oh my, looking fresh

>>10984837
hexen would be a better game if it was linear like heretic or doom

>>10984903
Thanks for the YTMND fad.

sometimes i wonder if people would be less judgement of fun mechanics like nudoom swapping if they just made them look cooler

like instead of just putting a gun away and pulling the new one out, it was animated way flashier like ripping the gun out with one hand while putting away the old one away kinda like an old gunbelt full of flintlocks

>>10984903
>me after 666 redbulls

>>10985121
>>10985131

Bha-ha-ha, nice save attempt, I thought this can happen only in build games, Carmack is a hack

>>10985158
savescummers win

>>10984957
Why is the Mars Marine base so comfy?

>>10984363
That's clearly the opening levels of Quake, you nigger.

is there a mod for wolf 3D that makes the hidden walls slightly more obvious? Call me a shitter all you want, humping walls until you find it is a stupid mechanic

>>10984837
>>semi-open world design
>>99.9% of faggots on planet earth get filtered because they don't pay attention to environmental cues and get filtered by the puzzles
It's kind of funny how at least half of that would have been at least somewhat mitigated if people looked at the map names.

They quote the seven portals puzzle line so much because they have no fucking clue what the seven portals even is.

It looks really pretty, but when the hell these exactly the same corridors going to end? Also it has the worst encounter design I've seen in any FPS. Is it taken from Resident Evil? Never played it.

>>10985143
>SEND DUDES!

>>10985369
Still remember getting for the first time to Seven Portals secret level without the guide.

>>10985337
>>10985337
pls respond

>>10985435
>for Quake II
>Clearly modeled after Ranger from Quake I
>Helmet has a fin that makes it look like a sippy-cup

>>10985337
>>10985443
Not that I'm aware of, but you can at least narrow down your wall humping to places that actually have room for a secret with ECWolf's map.

>>10985435
he's seen some shit

>>10985123
The most fun I've had with the idea has been managing "staged reloads", and one of my favorite examples is here https://datanon.itch.io/babel
They don't fully 'reload in the backpack' so you still have to manage them, but the animation doesn't completely reset and will resume at or close to where you initially swapped out.
>>10985398
I don't like where this is going. I have an easier time getting into vanilla HL2 than vanilla D3, and even still I'd say they're acquired tastes. What feels so off about the encounter design?
>>10985453
>>10985435
>anon after playing those A.Soldier of Light missions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECyV4VDX-JI

>>10985483

>>10985483
> What feels so off about the encounter design?
Imps jumping in your face from the darkness in super narrow corridors where you cannot really avoid them, that's pure bullshit. Also don't die from point blank shotgun, that's double bullshit. This gets old on the second time it happens, and so far all rooms are exactly the same. Did not have a PC that can run D3 in 200x, so trying it for the first time now.

>>10985143
What is that gal on the left from?

>>10985068
I don't remember this map in Earth2

>>10985204
>Why is the Mars Marine base so comfy?
It and FEAR have those nice "late/night shift" vibes.
>>10985539
A lot of those "imp jump attacks" can be avoided if you sprint back in time, assuming you didn't sprint-charge through the door or hallway in the first place. There's one near the end that's hard to avoid, though.
Projectile origins for the weapons come from the weapon model and headshot damage multipliers are present. If you're able to reliably hit their face those imps should be dropping in one shell most of the time.
>>10985647
The left girl is the Ion Fury/Maiden main character.

>>10985660
>The left girl is the Ion Fury/Maiden main character.

I'm not sure if Ion Fury belongs here. Sort of a grey area.

>>10985686
It's an eduke game. If GZDoom wads are allowed to be discussed, so is Ion Fury. There is no grey area.

jesus fucking christ
I can't decide if this level more beautiful or more holyshit

ey are there any wads that use portals like in the game portal? doesn't need to be see or shoot through, I'm not picky. just a shootable teleport would be neat

>>10985123
The fact that it makes zero fucking sense is a big problem for me, so if there is an in-world explanation, that'd help. But another part is it just highlights other decisions I dislike.
Homogenous gun damage, juggling wouldn't be as effective if one power weapon is doing 80% of the damage.
Universal ammo, you wouldn't be juggling in every situation if different ammo reserves mattered.
Fodder respawn, every fight is the same race to burst down big guys.
Generally terrible primary and sustained fire modes, you're never holding a weapon that could leverage its fire modes and ammo expenditure to hang with weapon juggling.

>>10984762
Because Build editors are as shitty and clunky as they were back in the 90s, while Doom Builder has been constantly improving for like 20 years.

Also it's just way easier to make levels for Doom than it is Build. Also EDuke32 breaks all mods with every single update, necessitating packaging your mod with the target version of the .exe, as opposed to GzDoom breaking mods only sometimes.

>>10985123
I don't like nudoom swapping because it makes automatic weapons useless, you just shit out your highest DPS options.

>>10985068
I wish VKDoom was capable of making lighting like this.

>>10984070
Man I hate to brag but I've always been the opposite, I'm a total thrillhound and often favor a game with better atmosphere or "immersion" (for whatever that word is worth these days) over ones with better gameplay. Might be why System Shock 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, with less retro games like Dead Space and STALKER up there too. Funny because I was a complete pussy as a kid and couldn't play Silent Hill but went back to it recently and loved it

are the vanilla doom sprites wrong? the pink parts of his eyes arent there when hes full health (when hes looking left and right)

>>10984837
>great combat with tons of items and enemies
TOPKEK

>99.9% of faggots on planet earth get filtered because they don't pay attention to environmental cues and get filtered by the puzzles
Hunting for keys and switches isn't puzzles. Telling the player things like "One Third Of The Puzzle Has Been Solved." when they throw a random unmarked switch isn't an environmental clue.

>>10984070
because it's actually nothing but jumpscares. the game is filled with monster closets. This is the reason why Doom 3 is a horror game, because despite what retards like to say Doom is a sort of horror game. You shoot a lot, but it's still meant to spook you

>>10984887
The problem is that too many of those things suck. The centaur is one of the most common enemies in the game and you're required to have to stop and page through your inventory for flechettes any time you run into their annoying ass.

There isn't even anything inherently wrong with blocking enemies, but it'd make much more sense if that was a more high end and dangerous kind, rather than one of the cannonfodder types.

Each class gets 4 weapons unique to them, which is nice, but to a large part those are not that great. The Ice Shards and Thunderbolts fucking suck, for instance.

>>10985337
It's called having a map printed out or on your phone. Chancing random spots which might hide secrets, or slidehumping walls, isn't exactly great, but Wolfenstein 3D very much inherited that design sensibility from earlier PC games, it's simply what it is.
It wouldn't have been that much to instead add subtle secret switches to the engine for opening pushwalls, but IIRC pushwalls were a relatively late addition to the game because Carmack initially thought there wouldn't be a clean way to render them.

>>10984764
it means he can eat ALL the tendies and doesn't get stomach ache

>>10985123
In a first person game it doesn't matter as much imho. And idk haters gonna hate

>>10984102
What if Doomguy is one of the Holders. Not gonna tell you what I mean by Holders, except that its a different set of stories and such.

>>10985910
*elders

>>10985204
>>10985660
>it and FEAR have those late / night shift vibes
My word. Doom 3's Mars base is the comfiest shit. Just the right blend of military / science / industrial aesthetic with a lived-in workplace feel. That dark mood and then the lights from workstations or computer / television screens was just a real vibe. Would love to pull security shifts in the Doom 3 UAC facility and comfypost on my phone / UAC handheld device and post-shift hit the cafeteria and enjoy a good burger before heading off to play vidya / sleeping or whatever. Maybe some banter with other marines etc.

And FEAR hits a bit of those notes for office areas like okay, there is pretty much never a time when ai crave to be an office but some of those dark offices with the phones with the red light and screens and all the shit were almost comfy. If you were of course use the office computer for fun stuff which of course you are NOT allowed to do ever.

>>10984102
>>10984130
the HUD face is MrBallen, the monsters are SCP, the maps are just backrooms

b r o

b r u h

What's a good 3d slaughter typemap that isn't in doom - something with a ton of enemies? With infighting as well. I just want it to be performance demanding just as a test to see if large armies fighting one another is possible in 3d with models or if I am stuck with 2d sprites.

>>10985921
>elders
WTF that's not what I meant. I DID MEAN the Holders.

>>10985968
anon I think I know what you meant a little better than you do

>>10985967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWwReM0_pXI
?

>>10986023
I can't play Serious Sam anymore after I spent 48 hours straight playing it in VR

How would I go about editing a pk3 file? I love replaying wads with the Treasure Tech mod but it has a tiny albeit annoying issue when you play on Pistol Start Plus. If you have the red ssg and blue plasma gun variants you will carry them over to the next level. They will have zero ammo, but it still defeats the purpose of pistol start.
There's no way to contact the dev directly it seems.

>>10986042
>48 hours straight
>in VR
by 48 hours straight you mean over multiple gaming sessions back to back
right?

>>10986108
Get Slade

>>10986023
Was thinking of Halo when you mentioned this cause I wanted the fighting to 'appear' organized on both sides & that was the biggest game I could think of that had two armies fighting with you in-between. Maybe the older call of duties/medal of honor & other type games as well. But thanks.

>>10986042

>>10986116
Half-Life has 3-way fights too.

>>10986134
Yeah I just was thinking those typically have a handful of aliens and some marines though. Even 2's I don't remember getting very large in terms of the resistance vs combine vs headcrabs/zombies/antlions. It definitely works. Just I'm thinking of much larger numbers than what is typically depicted.

>>10986116
it's a shame how they didn't use the "3-way fight" gimmick much after the /vr/ Halo games (CE and 2)
I think 3 has "you vs Flood vs Covenant" bits once or twice, and 4 and 5 have some "you vs Covenant vs Prometheans" segments (but those games suck so I don't count them)
ironically the most consistent ones to do it are the RTS games (Halo Wars 1 and 2)

can you guys recommend anything like void and rainbow? talking about doom2 mods

>>10984960
>>10984979

>>10981091
Valiant is really good, and where Skillsaw truly hit his stride, IMO. Its kinda like a more refined and ambitious sequel to his episode wads Vanguard and Lunatic he made a few years prior to it.

>>10982358
>Slige/Sludge/Oblige/Obsidian has existed for fucking decades, it hasn't done anything to make mappers obsolete.
Thats probably because those programs aren't really doing what modern AI generation is typically doing. They don't rely on data from pre-existing publicly available wads as a basis, they rely on data specific to their programs.

>>10986587
I was just scrolling by and read this comment.... havent touched doom or games like it in forever. Did I misunderstand or is ai being used with wads to create maps?

>>10986618
no (and even if it was, who gives a shit)
the level generators out there are just that, level generators, not really AI-based