/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10968537
>They might as well have said the exact same thing but with a heckin motherfucking in it

>>10968537
Players in the west back then played games for challenge, it was one of the most important factor. Marketing, reviews, and even manuals reflect that. This aspect of video games has been largely forgotten these days.

>space rouge

>Welcome to the fantasy zone, get ready!
Holy shit, they might as well have just said, "Hey motherfucker cocksucker, welcome to Hell, try not to get assraped by a salted cactus, faggot!"

>>10968537
I like how the wingmen don't just "retreat" if they run out of health in SF1, they fucking die.

Well fuck me sideways, she might as well have said: "Jesus Christ on a toadstool. When will you understand that I'm seeing Koopa? I'm gonna get a restraining order, you Italian Asshole! O M G! Now go fuck off forever."

>>10968537
>>10968554
>space rouge

>>10968615
Don't they come back in the next stage or something? Or are they gone permanently?

>>10968537
>your and your friends are dead. Game Over
Damn, they did not beat around the bush with these old Game over screens. They might as well have said, "You're dead. Your friends are dead. Your family's dead. Your fuckin' pets are bein' skinned alive. Your mom's a fuckin' whore. You suck at life. The whole world hates you. You're goin' to Hell. Live with it. Game Over."

>>10968537
Typical Cornerian Propaganda Machine. In reality, the Venomians are a fair and just people who were discriminated against by the Cornerians.

>>10968537
no one called him Fox McCloud
everyone called him StarFox

>>10968790
>rib rib rib rib
>look out StarFox ®1994 Nintendo

>>10968537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpiXshEH0Vs
>My name's Fox. Fox McOx.

>>10968694
>stereotypical "we'll meet again" line before ship blows up
I always presumed these cartoon animals almost always eject/survive but we just don't see it.

>>10968537
What the fricking heck…I’m just trying to relax and play a video game, just one little freaking game to myself for once for a change, and instead find out I gotta reflect on the politics of historiography?!

>>10968537
>>10969557
Crimedy this is worst than homework

>>10968537
>Your skill will determine whether your name goes down in history as the savior of Europe or a meth-addicted unitesticled genocidal boogeyman.

>>10968537
The manual makes it sound like you could be the saviour of the galaxy, a mercantile jackass, or work for Andross. Did they ever do this in a Star Fox game? I vaguely recall the DS game has different endings, but I can't for the life of me remember what the story of that game was.

>>10968658
>Original Japanese text is Peach giving you a generic "Thank you for saving me and the kingdom" speech
Someone in localization thought they were being cute.

>>10969842
>I can't for the life of me remember what the story of that game was.
Absolutely incomprehensible.

>>10969842
>I vaguely recall the DS game has different endings
I only remember the one where fox gets cucked lmao
but yeah, the above anon is right, the story's a clusterfuck.

The concept of challenge used to be the number 1 driving force of video games in the west so it's not surprising a manual would put skill in high regards.
This is something you need to understand if you're going to play old games especially pre 5th gen.

>>10968537
what is up with star fox? why did it never become a quality series? star fox on snes was alright, star fox 64 was fucking great, and the rest of the games fuckin suck
and then star fox 3DS was just star fox 64 again, but in 3D
and then star fox zero was just star fox 64 again, remixed with worse controls
why is it so hard to just make a fleshed out sequel to star fox 64 with an original story/original levels/bosses?

>>10970883
Something about "wanting to innovate and not repeat ideas" accorting to shiggy iirc
Pretty funny considering the best starfox game released in the last decade was the final boss of fucking kirby planet robobot of all things.

>turn on Final Fantasy 7
>I'm on a train
>black guy walks up to me
>remember stories of the summer of 92
>it's worse than that
>he points his hand cannon(not slang for a gun, he has a cannon for a hand) at my head
>"What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Eco Terrorist Recruitment Academy, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Shinra, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire Avalanche armed forces."
>shit my pants and turn the game off
Motherfucking Final Fantasy goes hard

>>10969842
DS game was sensical for the main path, then you gain the ability to "change Fox's destiny" or whatever to see if you can get a better (but usually worse) ending and it becomes a huge mess. There's a branch or few where you follow Star Wolf, yeah? Only they have no equivalent to ROB and the Great Fox, which is integral for gameplay. So I guess it's ROB making the decision to join Star Wolf? Except I thought it was established that FOX was the one making these decisions in-universe. No explanation for why ROB can do this, btw.
No, there isn't a Star Fox game where you can actually act as mercenary group. It's like getting Samus to act as a bounty hunter. Nintendo doesn't know what these things are.

>>10970250
The only thing I remember was that Slippy's girlfriend was fucking ugly. Like c'mon bro, you're a member of Star Fox, you should not have to settle that hard.

>>10971318
>No, there isn't a Star Fox game where you can actually act as mercenary group.
In Star Fox 64 you literally send a bill to General Pepper at the end.

>>10970883
>what is up with star fox? why did it never become a quality series?
He flew too close to the sun.

>>10968537
so basically it's canon that he's a terrorist

>>10972458
Be reasonable, Fox!

>>10972447
Poor Slippy gets no respect, at least he managed to land a goblina. Better than nothing I guess?

>>10970883
Miyamoto keeps wanting to add fucky controls to game instead of just using a regular controller. If he wants to be "innovative" just make a flightstick you can plug into the Switch. Hell you could even use a joy-con as a gyroscope to save on costs.

>>10972486
Labo HOTAS?

>>10972489
>Labo HOTAS?
Yeah exactly.
Ideally one out of plastic, but fuck it i'll take a labo one.

>>10968537
Are you ok, OP?

>>10972486
>A TIE-Fighter style game but with Star Fox
It'll never happen but I'd nut nonstop if it did. We're gonna have to wait 20-30 years for Nintendo to stop making hardware, Miyamoto to leave/die, and for Nintendo to put their games on PC (officially). Then maybe they'll hand Star Fox off to a AA studio to make something between an arcade space shooter and a space sim.

>>10968694
That's SF2. SF1 you watched them blow up while they screamed something. Never to be mentioned again.

>>10968537
is fox scottish?

>>10970994
Underrated post.

>>10968606
>Welcome to the machine

I still can't get over how the government payed nasa for a coked up schizo to get his woman to jerk off a dolphin to talk to aliens go then go completely schizophrenic to the point the happy jerked dolphins all fucking die

Its to the point I can't see the word welcome without thinking about it

>>10970994
KWAB

>>10973434
Kweh

>>10972447
Slippy has a penchant for landing froggish girlfriends.
>>10972453
Yeah, but we never really see what else they do when the Cornerian army's not hiring them. Star Wolf is presumably what they could be if they amorally worked for the highest bidder. For all intents and purposes, they're basically Cornerian contractors (in fact, I think they are implied to be in the SNES games, and the merc bit was added to the N64 game).

I'm I the only one who thinks the puppets for the promotional material for the first game look fucking creepy. Don't get me wrong, they look awesome, but they just look cursed.

>>10975618
They gave me nightmares as a kid. I was never scared of animatronics or mascots or puppets or anything, but those specific puppets freaked me out.

>>10970902
>rehash of existing star fox bosses but easier and more tedious
Even Star Fox Zero was better

>>10970902
>>>10970883
>Something about "wanting to innovate and not repeat ideas"
In 1996 that meant adding All Range Mode and a couple extra vehicles.
Today it means making an unplayable mess of gimmick controls.
How times have changed...

>>10969667
He would have been remembered as a failure either way.

>>10968537
>>You skill

>>10968537
"Your father helped me like that, too!" "This brings back memories of your dad!" "Your becoming more like your father!"
Why is this rabbit asshole so passive-aggressive?

>>10968537
This thread reminds me; I scanned the manual, like, more than 20 years ago.

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>>10977086

Did they cut their legs off and replace them with metal legs?

>>10977104
That was common theory for jet pilots:
>if you travel at high speeds, your heart can't pump enough blood into your brain
>and you'll pass out
>It's not like you're using your feet (or legs) when flying a jet,
>and they're the furthest limbs from your heart, so...
>you're better off cutting 'em off.
>More blood to your brain, less worry about useless blood in your feet!

>>10977082
>>10977086
fun fact: these models were actually made from taxidermized animals

>>10977129

>EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!
>EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!
>Incoming enemy aircraft!
>Prepare for launch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_4mCGHryn4

>>10977145
the term "scramble" seems awfully insensitive towards Falco

>>10977152
As a raptor, it's how he actually prefers his eggs.

>>10977145
>aircraft
fighters

>>10977160
anon hes a bird not a dinosaur

>>10977124
>It's not like you're using your feet (or legs) when flying a jet
Except for operating the rudder pedals.

>>10977162
Your memory is better than mine. The alliterative phonetic head rhyme seemed more poetic...

>giving the unsuspecting frog the predator stare

>>10977168
Don't call ME a lodicus, you dip!

>>10977169
That's a lot of buttons.

>>10977172
heh

>>10977130
"Star Fox looks fuckin' pissed"

>>10977178
Hey wait a minute, that looks like a rabbit, not a hare! Also Slippy looks like a frog, not a toad.

>>10978206
uh oh

I've never beaten the hard path in the original game.

>>10970883
I vaguely remember some interview where Shiggy or some other guy said they didn't see SF as just a rail shooter series, which explains some of the experimentations they tried. Those failed so they went back to rail shooter but at the same time it couldn't just be the same but more so they tried a few different gimmicks for the controls and have since given up. I'm sure we're going to see the series again though.
>>10970902
For what it's worth I think that's a valiant approach. It avoids the usual problem of sequels just being more of the same if not worse because its ideas that were originally cut for not being up to par and the further along the series gets the more the bottom of the barrel gets scrapped for ideas. That being said I'm sure a lot of Nintendo devs have come up with binders' worth of ideas for SF and Shiggy thinks it's not enough so who knows what he's looking for.

>>10980969
There needs to be a person dedicated to bonking Miyamoto on the head whenever he starts talking about adding motion controls to a SF game. That way he forgets about them for a while and goes on developing a normal SF game until he needs another bonkin' on his noggin'.

>>10970883
SF was an excuse for nintendo to steal shit from argonaut because they couldn't do 3d on their own. Japs used to do this a lot its why their consoles has these weird leaps forward

>>10969842
>>10974269
That's why I prefer the lighter 'adventurers-for-hire' than mercenary. They might take a few odd jobs, but they're Cornerian loyalists through and through. Probably why Falco leaves the team half the time, he wouldn't go full Andross like Star Wolf but he finds grey-area work much more interesting.
I had the impression James' Star Fox was an experimental proto-'Arwing' arm of the Cornerian military while Fox's Star Fox was the more independent version, but I could be wrong.