/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10890659
Umihara Kawase is the deepest sidescrolling platform game of all time

>>10890659
marble madness is a isometric game

>>10890659
Depth of what?

>>10890680
gameplay

>>10890659
>original mario 3 has no depth
oh yeah? how you explain this?

>>10890685
Can you describe what "depth" is and why GNG and Mario don't have it?

>>10890720
>what does depth mean
I guess you're learning english a second language or something?

>>10890731
In terms of mechanics, how it plays out in a game that has it.

Kid Chameleon belongs towards the bottom, a brilliant game with great depth and challenge.

>>10890659
>Super Mario Bros 3 on no depth
>Super Mario Bros 3: GBA port on max depth
I chuckled

>>10890741
There are two factors, the amount of mechanics given to the player and the extent the game forces the player to use them. A game like Makaimura has less "depth" than Daimakaimura or Chohmakaimura because the player has less options to use.
>Makaimura: 1 fixed arc jump, shoot horizontally
>Daimakaimura: 1 fixed arc jump, shoot horizontally and vertically
>Chohmakaimura: 2 fixed arc jumps, shoot horizontally
There's a balance between limitation and options of course, and you can have deep gameplay with limited mechanics if the level design forces you to play the game to your limits (ex: king of dragons) makaimura is a bit more of a simple game in general (not much platforming going on, game has unneeded levels of slugishness like a 1 second delay from getting up from a crouch)

>>10890659
This isn't /v/ you little attention whoring shit, make an actual point instead of reposting bait. Go be a fag back on /v/eddit.

>>10890767
Someone with a decent understanding of game design is a rare sight on this board.

>>10890659

>>10890749
>western slop
Yeah would be fitting for OP's totally serious and not bait pic.

where does super metroid fit in?

>>10890749
Had potential but they didn't make enough content. Having the same fucking boss through the whole game was Atari era crap.

This is pretty bad even for a low effort shitpost

(You) dropped random games into random tiers to generate discussion

I don't think anyone argues the Battletoads games are meant to be intelligent games with depth. They were created as a knockoff of the Ninja Turtles which were popular back then. I actually like the Battletoads games a lot, they're fun. Extremely difficult.

>>10890659
Poser pic. "I'll shit on these popular titles and pretend the obscure/shitty ones are good, maybe this way it'll look I know what I'm talkinga bout". CV Adventure is a broken piece of shit and Holy Diver is also the peak poser game, the enemy design gets retarded later on in the game and the game needs two different romhacks to even function properly because otherwise it drops inputs and lags like hell.

>>10890767
>A game like Makaimura has less "depth" than Daimakaimura or Chohmakaimura because the player has less options to use.

Yeah that's pretty dumb. Number of mechanics is irrelevant if the game does nothing with it. Is the first Spyro "deeper" than 2 and 3 because it allows to do strafing rolls? No, it's not, because rolling never comes into play and Spyro 2 and 3 have more challenging enemy AI which actually forces the player to think about how to use the tools at his disposal a little.
In the same manner CV4 isn't "deeper" than CV1 because it allows to whip in all directions, it's actually the contrary, there is less depth because it does coupled with the fact that enemy and level design wasn't adapted to the system. In short that's like saying the remaster version or Resident Evil Remake has more depth than the original remake because the analog controls allow for more moves. It's the contrary, gameplay has less depth because movement allows for things the game never considered.

>>10891950
>CV Adventure is a broken piece of shit
Surprised it took this long for somebody to call that one out. It's a miserable experience

>>10890659
Where do the Megaman games fall on the list?

>>10890687
What the fuck!?

>>10890687
Look closer at the last tier. Someone snuck back in there...

>>10892652
I think that's the GBA version

>>10890883
>This isn't /v/
That's where you're wrong

why is Mario 3 at the top and the bottom

>>10890659
>Super CV IV
>no depth
>CV: The Adventure
>actual depth
as someone who has actually played The Adventure, that's bullshit

>>10892690
GBA e-reader levels?

>>10890659
Street fighter 2010: the final fight beats every single one of these games. That's how I know you're an underage gay that doesn't know shit about fuck.

>>10890659
Really low quality bait. Just took a bunch of games and threw them in random categories with no rhyme or reason

>>10892867
>>10892969
Yeah that and Mario 3 being in both the top and bottom tier just highlights how lazy the bait around here has gotten. OP probably hasn't even touched most of the games there.

>>10890659
>castlevania adventure
Literally the most aborted game of all time, It doesnt get any shittier

>>10890659
genuinely shocked at all the replies that are missing that this is an obvious joke list. mario 3's GBA port is on the opposite tier as... mario 3. I guess there really is a lot of autism around here.

>>10893093
jokes are supposed to be funny, this is just lame

>>10892969
Came to say this
>>10893037
It's the GBA version, but that doesn't really make more sense

>>10892690
>>10893037
see >>10892872
those e-reader levels have elements of 1, 2, 3, and World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZaWG6Bv1bg&ab_channel=xRavenXP

>>10893093
>I did le wrong thing, le opposite!
>aren’t I funny

>>10893642
I think the bigger joke is the idea that a sidescrolling platformer could have a "message".

Whoever did this probably took an RPG meme and edited it. The joke is actually funny but now it has lost its humor from explaining it.

>>10890659
>Wands of Gamelon
>Pretty Deep
Remasteredfags, prove this notion right

>>10890687
Schrodinger's Depth

>>10891950
NTA but that guy himself said in the latter half of his post that a game with less gameplay mechanics could be deeper than one with more if the game forced the player to use the existing mechanics to their limit

>Marble Madness
>sidescroller

>nobody noticed