/vr/ - Retro Games

Reposting good news: >>10813573

>>10814280
Did they add ST018 co-processor to SNES and decided to go balls to the wall and add full GBA, since they already got the ARM CPU emulated? That's how Higan got GBA support a decade ago.

>>10814325
Probably.

https://twitter.com/anaelseghezzi/status/1773755040492036517

>>10814280
Redpill me on Mesen.
What can it do that other GBA emulators can't?

>>10815487
>>10813664
>Using its event viewer with games is like looking at girls under their skirts.
It allows to see how graphics effects and such were made (pic related).

>>10815591
Another pic.

bvmp

https://twitter.com/SomethinNerdy/status/1773818973982720000

>posting another twitter link without context
Not clicking that shit.

>>10817387
I'll take one for the team
Looks like it's a video showcasing a battle engine for a NES RPG in development

>>10817387
>video showcasing a battle engine for a NES RPG in development
This one: https://somethingnerdy.com/blog/

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Exclusive Release
Cave Story for Nintendo 64
z64 + source
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hzqo4qn9qtz9702/cave64.zip/file

>>10817695
Based. I'll play it on my Everdrive X7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBHvEFn-8E

>>10817695
interesting, i loved the genesis release, beat that on flashcart like a year ago. there was some weirdness with the AI, but it was pretty spot on, and the music and SFX were such an amazing fit for the YM-xxxx chip, just bleeding authenticity and S0VL.

>>10818510

>found out my translation patch randomly changes character palettes in a few random parts early in the game
I thought I was DONE

>>10820717
it's a feature!

>>10820736
it's tempting honestly.

>>10820740
happy little mistake you can use as additional patch or something

Any good homebrews for the virtual boy that aren't just ports?

GBA demo: https://neofidstudios.itch.io/demons-of-asteborg-dx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWsYkHD2wnI
New SMB-CD demo just dropped
Truly an interesting animal here, essentially an alternate history if the "Nintendo Playstation" was released and there was a Sonic-CD type Mario game for it. Besides using redbook CD audio, it also opts for mode-0 SNES graphics, which consists of 4 scrollable background planes of 4 colors each, instead of the usual 16 color variants that most games used, a very uncommon choice in the SNES' lifetime. The sprites also stick to this 4 color limitation, giving it a really unique art style. Got my eye on this one...

>>10821941
It looks hideous. No idea why they'd go with Mode 0. They most likely could have gotten a much better looking game with Mode 1.

>>10821945
> it sux
well it's cool to have the multiple parallax layers i guess, which you cannot do with mode 1, and the art assets *should* be way easier to make. to me, it almost approximates the more limited color choices of the Genesis / Sega-CD, in my head anyway...
i think it's neat to get weird and experimental, but yes there's a good reason why mode 0 wasn't really used commercially... only a fool would argue that 4 colors looks objectively better than 16 colors.

>>10821956
>well it's cool to have the multiple parallax layers i guess, which you cannot do with mode 1
You can have up to 3 and then you still have tricks like line scrolling, sprites, etc. to fall back on for more parallax.
>the art assets *should* be way easier to make.
If anything they're more difficult to make as you need to really pick your colors well and you're limited to 4 colors per tile. It's like doing NES graphics with the SNES master palette.
> it almost approximates the more limited color choices of the Genesis / Sega-CD, in my head anyway...
It's worse than the Genesis because the Genesis still has 16 colors per tile, even if it only has 4 palettes.

>>10821970
there's honestly nothing here i don't agree with, but i like seeing the hardware stretched in unique ways.
Considering you have 64KB of V-RAM, which you ALSO had to share with the SPC-700 sound chip, in theory you could load an absolute TON of graphics since they are all 4 color 2bpp and you don't have to share it with instruments for the music since the CD-audio is being used; though of course you still need SFX. This mode opens up different options creatively, which i think is cool, so i'll leave it at that. Good day sir.

>>10821973
>Considering you have 64KB of V-RAM, which you ALSO had to share with the SPC-700 sound chip
This is false. VRAM and Audio RAM are separate.
>you could load an absolute TON of graphics since they are all 4 color 2bpp
Which isn't really an issue as you can update your background tiles in VRAM per frame as you need them. The more limiting factor for VRAM is sprites which are limited to 16KB, which Mode 0 wont help there as sprites are still 4bpp.

Are there any threads dedicated to chiptune music creation? The closest I can think of is >>>/g/dmp for digital music in general. Does anyone here make chiptunes in addition to romhacks/fangames?
A LSDj remix I enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTer83fiOJo

Pre-patched games time:

>Crazy Kong.nes
https://files.catbox.moe/hdyliy.7z
(v. 1.0) (original rom included due to rarity) https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8529/

>Kid Dracula (SGB Enhanced).gb
https://files.catbox.moe/nxabsy.gb
(v. 1.0) https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8524/

>Lemmings - Amiga Edition.md
https://files.catbox.moe/32t1x4.md
(v. 1.1) https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8520/

>Sonic 3D Blast DX Plus.md
https://files.catbox.moe/bdin17.md
>Sonic 3D Blast DX Plus (No Music).md
https://files.catbox.moe/hylfd6.md
(v. 1.0) https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8526/

>Arkanoid VS the Occult.sfc
https://files.catbox.moe/uukhw3.sfc
(v. 1.0) https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8537/

>>10817695
no audio on real hardware

>>10817695
>>10811120
>>10819695
Were these made by anons, or are they from known sources? (Cool either way, obviously)

>>10824570
The SM64 hack is by someone on YT, who had that GDrive link to it in the description.

SNES Xeno Crisis footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dztziS57Fl4

So I want to make a game for the PC-Engine and I was hoping someone had a good place to start to learn to code for it. Anyone got anything?

>>10824871
They shrunk the play area to fit reduced resolution but kept all sprites the same size? That's certainly a choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFUkrTwECb0
>>10825703
>That's certainly a choice.
It's the cheapest choice.

>>10821941
it looks nice in motion with all the parallax, but the whole idea of famicom cd is so retardedly farfetched i just can't suspend my disbelief

A PS2 game I wanted to create a patch for is commonly distributed as a bin/cue file instead of an iso, including the info on redump.
It seems like there's little to no support for editing ps2 bin files though, so I'm kind of at a loss on how to actually release the final patch.

To work with the game I converted the bin to an iso, but if I were to then convert that iso back to a bin to make a patch for the original file, the resulting patch would be quadruple the size necessary. Should I just tell people, "Hey, convert the game to an iso first" in a readme file or something? Or is there some way to directly replace files in a bin/cue that actually works so I could avoid this mess?

It feels like rom hacking beyond cartridge based media is a total nightmare.

>>10815487
Has the best debuggers in the business.

>>10826150
>the whole idea of famicom cd is so retardedly farfetched i just can't suspend my disbelief
Bruh a real physical prototype exists, this was an actual engineered and built device and business deal between Nintendo and Sony, in which Nintendo backed out last minute to partner with Phillips to develop the CD-i for some god awful reason. The "MSU-1" homebrew chip is based on the actual specs of this actual machine.
Sony was absolutely FURIOUS that Nintendo backed out of the deal last minute, and went on their own to make their own obscure little indie gaming machine.,. it's called the... uhh... (checks notes) ...Sony Playstation apparently
Anyway, gosh, i've been playing this demo on SD2SNES / CRT and the whole 4 color vibe with CD-Audio feels like an unreleased late 80s console from an alternate universe. i LOVE the art direction. to all the "muh 16 colerz" whiners this hack whisks my soul away to a mandela effect reality in which i truly feel like i'm playing a unique piece of hardware that is not the SNES. i know what the SNES can do, every game and their mother has 4bpp 16 colors, this takes me to a magical alternate reality which i can't really say about other hacks, even the good ones like Super Metroid Subversion still feel like Super Metroid. This silly demo is AMAZING and i am head over heels in love with the vibe and aesthetics. Play the damn thing. That is all. Rant over.

>>10826206
cannot be overstated how lovely the Mesen debugging tools are to work with, way above any other options currently.

>>10814241
well here most of megadrive homebrew released (yes those commercial games as well)
https://00gamers.wordpress.com/2024/03/19/514/
the only one sharing those commercial megadrive games released last year or this year.

>>10826246
it wasn't nintendo the one backing up it was sony with their "we want to make interactive movies and a movie experience of games,we need you to increase censorship" bullshit.
what sony did is similar to what square soft did
>get funding of nintendo
>instead of developing something for nintendo make other stuff for other company
>betray and backstab the one supporting you.
what sony did was more like
>we got all this money from nintendo
>let's spend all that money developing our own console
>let's betray nintendo at the end just making irrational demands and we will get our own console.
in fact the reason the ps1 doesn't have a 2D gpu is because that was the upgraded gpu of the snes which got added to the mini version of snes making it a real 32 bit console (leaving ps1 with 3d graphics gpu only).

>>10826246
anon, i was not talking about the play station, i was talking about this
https://famicomcd.github.io/about.html

>>10826303
>everyone and their mother is gushing about how this is a hypothetical game for either of the doomed super famicom cd add-ons
>in reality it's intended to be a game for a hypothetical add-on for the original famicom
>this information is publicly available and all anyone has to do is fucking read, but no one does
can't make this shit up

>>10825703
oof, 320 MD to 256 SNES was ALWAYS shit.

>>10821941
Yeah, Nintendo totally would have gone with a borderline NES aesthetic to sell an upgrade in the 90s. It's badly executed and retro kitsch wasn't en vogue in the mid 90s. Doing the best you could with the hardware was in style.

>>10826303
ah, that's an interesting bit of fanfiction, maybe a little bit unhinged but either way it does somewhat match up to the specs of the actual Nintendo Playstation prototype / MSU-1, enough so that i can play it on my real SNES.
Also the NES can actually use SNES controllers, there is nothing stopping it except extra polling of the buttons in software. I'm willing to bet backward compatibility was in the works early on but was quickly abandoned after Nintendo realized all of the ways that the poor NES was abused into doing things it was never meant to do lol.
picrel i do in fact use an SNES controller for NES games with a cable i dun made and it's amazing.

>>10826303
It would've saved the Saturn...

>>10826319
>Doing the best you could with the hardware was in style.
If that were actually the case then enhancement chips in game carts wouldn't have been a thing.

>>10826369
i really think the sense of exploration, awe and wonder has been absent past the PS3 / 360 era; when you can do everything, nothing is impressive anymore.
starfox is an absolute fucking slog to play on console today but damned if i didn't think it was fuckin amazing in 1994.
new and unique experiences in gaming were all the rage in those days, expansion chips made those possible. the only glimpse i've felt with that feeling lately is Palworld when i get to help my "pokemon" actually battle with a gun in my hand lol, but like, tons of games like that back then

>>10826369
What? That sort of maximalism only proves my point. I know you're doing a hurrdurr SNES CPU slow thing but
A) people did their damnedest with it, the whole "teehee it's so le retro and minimalist and indie" mindset wasn't a thing, Earthbound aside, and even that had some wild battle backdrops and great sound chip usage.
B) outside of the shitty CPU and horizontal resolution SNES was a cutting edge home console
This thing looks worse than any proper Mario entry on the SNES and would not have been used to push a CD addon.

>>10821941
I'm not watching your video.
Actual trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue3QpLb_GQo

>>10826428
That's one way to look at it, but another way to look at it is that by using an enhancement chip, you're now adding extra hardware that does things beyond what the original hardware did. Which can be considered not doing the best you can with the hardware.
>I know you're doing a hurrdurr SNES CPU slow thing
Not at all. Not intentionally, at least.
>This thing looks worse than any proper Mario entry on the SNES and would not have been used to push a CD addon.
Maybe if it were for the SNES you would be right, but this is meant to be a NES game, if it were using enhancements to push beyond NES's limits, in an alternate universe where Ninendo tried to capitalize on the fact that the Famicom remained relevant long after the Super Famicom released. And you can be damn sure they'd use Mario to sell it.

>>10826508
Well I got a couple dates mixed up in the AU but it's still basically that anyway. Embarrassing.
In any case I'm not trying to start a fistfight here, I just worded my original post poorly.

>>10826508
No it's not meant to be a fantasy NES game you gaslighting piece of crap. You just described it as a Nintendo Playstation game, as does the video, and it's chock full of SNES capabilities.

>>10826553
Read the website.

>>10826553
>No it's not meant to be a fantasy NES game you gaslighting piece of crap.
>In terms of alternate reality, FamicomCD is an add-on for the Famicom
Sure sounds like it is to me.

>>10826565
Agreed. The FamicomCD is upgraded over the regular Famicom in their fantasy though.
>personally I think that imagined SMBCD looks kind of dumb and off brand
>feels so fucking forced with the shoehorned in SMB2 stuff

>>10826596
I don't have a problem with SMB2 enemies, but the vegetable pulling looks bad. I don't think I've seen a SMW hack that makes it look good.

>>10826303
that shit if it was made it would have reached US four years after japan launch.
also isn't that technically an snes? why it looks like shit and worse then any snes title released (even master system games look superior to that)

>>10826623
It's a cool thought experiment and everything but honestly it doesn't look like a Mario game even though everything is there.

Gentlemen! I have a dumb question for you. Where the FUCK can I find information about the Commodore PET?
I have been struggling to find shit for this damn machine, which sucks because I really want to program for it. Everything seems to be for the VIC-20 or the C64, and I can't even find an address list for the KERNAL(important because I need it to load files from tape.)

>>10821945
>It's hideous
I really like it. It looks really unique, and the palette pops pretty nicely.

>>10827175
For more obscure microcomputers, your most likely option is to sink into archive.org and look for contemporary books about the platform.

>>10827184
>obscure
Heavily relative, it's the most obscure of the '76 trinity. Pretty much any nerd worth his salt would know that it exists and what CPU it ran on.
Anyways, ironically I found this right after bitching about it. Weird how that works.
https://www.chibiakumas.com/6502/pet.php

>>10827175
> I really want to program for it.
neato. learn 6502
https://skilldrick.github.io/easy6502/
> i cant find information
http://www.6502.org/users/andre/petindex/progmod.html
find an emulator, find an assembler, start bangin registers, and get goin

>>10827252
>6502.org
Did not have the kernal stuff I was looking for.
It turns out the reason why though is because the kernal is just really simple and DIDN'T handle IO like I thought it did. Not sure what to do with this newfound knowledge, but I'll do something.
Now I have to figure out how the Series 2001 compatible drives communicated, which should be fun.

I've been making some regular enemies for the second dungeon.
Video with sound: https://webmshare.com/play/GLnDE
Slow alt link: https://files.catbox.moe/at25ka.webm

>>10827260
> kernal
kernel is useless. bang data at registers like i told yuh fuckhead

>>10827384
>kernel is useless
Yeah. It is. Now I have to pick apart Commdore BASIC to figure out how to bang on registers in the correct manner.

>>10821941
I thought the PlayStation was a cd add on for the snes? Not the nes? What the fuck

>>10826303
Why are you moving the goal posts? The post regarding the mario cd thing literally states the PlayStation snes thing by name, why are you suddenly now saying you're talking about something else? Jesus

>>10826508
No it is not meant to be for the fucking nes, learn to read

>>10827709
You first.

>>10827252
This is completely unrelated but you popped out some good information so I figured I'd try the well. I want to start programming for the pce/tgfx16 and I was wondering if you had any suggestions. I've found some stuff and resources for some websites but I'm dumb. I was hoping there were some ez tuts like you posted for 6502.
>found this and am starting it
>https://www.chrismcovell.com/PCEdev/index.html
>only video two right now
>https://pcengine.proboards.com/thread/218/elmers-engine-programming-resource-links
>haven't looked through it but still good to have
>right now doing the videos to start
>https://forums.atariage.com/topic/291066-any-tips-and-utilites-for-pc-enginetg-16-homebrew-programming/
>again haven't looked through it but I recognize
good to have
Besides these resources I need to digest is there anything else you can throw out there or point me in the direction of?

>>10828331
Nice dodge on the fact that they discuss how it's upgraded.

>>10828593
>if it were using enhancements to push beyond NES's limits
What dodge?

>>10828593
What are you even trying to prove here? Dude didn't once say that it wasn't an upgraded NES. An add-on automatically implies an upgrade. But in the end it's still a NES. There has been no falsehoods stated.

>>10828603
>only posting part of the page
I am literally a third party observer between you and the other anon arguing but I got irritated because you built an incomplete picture and put it forward as fact.
>read the page
>you first
If you read the page right below what you posted it validates --
Hard break. I was rereading the posts to better be in the conversation and I realized I misread the post where anon says learn to read.
>no its not meant to be for the fucking nes, learn to read
>misread it as not meant to be the fucking nes
My apologies. Still, it isn't exactly a NES. They offer it as an all-in-one unit for our market.

>>10828618
Sorry, I was typing out my blogpost. I misread the post saying it wasn't meant to be for the nes. I thought it said it wasn't meant to be the nes. My own mistake.

>>10828624
It's cool, everyone makes mistakes. God knows I have.

>>10828627

Has anyone played this yet? I wanted to get some thoughts before I drop 20 euro on it for an NES rom.

>>10828283
So who's going to volunteer to translate this thing?

>>10829689
Sounds like you just did.

>>10829146
I have the rom, you want that before/if you buy?

>>10829881
yes plz

>>10829924
Here /vr/o (also, it's the European version, lucky you. Still looking for the American version for me) https://files.catbox.moe/cfzseb.zip

>>10829942
thank you patriot, will it run on my NTSC console and everdrive?

What are some good obscure SMW Romhacks you know of? My personal favorite one is Massimo. It has a really cool atmosphere and it's kinda been forgotten

>>10829984
Sadly can't test that myself, but I did switch from NTSC to PAL 50hz and PAL 60hz on the FCEU emulator, and it ran at the same speed each time. It was a brief test, but it seems to be a good sign

>>10827184
I was looking for 68000 books from the 80's and even then archive.org won't let you download the whole thing, its just some rental thing. I do have a huge a amiga book I got at a computer swap meet but its mostly c.

>>10827705
are you retarded? did you even click the link sourced from the creators of the hack themselves? shit's easy to confuse with the real deal

>>10830674
Just as well. If you can't even manage to use google or archive.org you're not gonna write code for 80's machines.

>>10829984
Ignore my last post, because I now have a confirmed NTSC rom of Sam's Journey for you (plus a new PAL rom). Sorry for the trouble. Also the manual is now included!

Sam's Journey (headerless original + (not recommended) modified NES2 pack for compatiblity purposes or something ('PAL 60hz & NTSC 50hz')
https://files.catbox.moe/3y8471.7z
(both should be v. 1.0)

>>10830718
*unmodified headers original

Disregarding the dispute in here about what "Famicom CD" is supposed to be, I patched the two SMBCD demos from its website (the .sfc file in the respective folder is the patched game: throw every file (minus the patch and readme, if you don't want to) into your SNES rom folder and click on the .sfc file to play):

>Super Mario Bros. CD Speedrun Comp Demo
http://files.catbox.moe/aeo04c.zip
(v. 2.2) (current version)
files.catbox.moe/ay06go.zip
(v. 1.3) (old version)

>>10831281
*
http://files.catbox.moe/ay06go.zip
(v. 1.3) (old version)

>>10827381
What‘s the name of this game?
do you have the download link?

>>10831407
He posts updates in almost every thread. It's a GBA game he's working on
https://c3-project.itch.io/c3

>>10821941
Kind of neat. The 4 scrolling layers of background art is something they ended up including in the SNES, which is what mode 0 is. But very few games actually did this on account of the gfx having to conform to NES limitations. It's something I always felt like had a lot of potential, especially when combined with HDMA effects and gradients.

>>10831715
> gfx having to conform to NES limitations.
the 4 color 2bpp lmit? yes. it should be noted that you can pick from a full 16-bit 65,536 different colors for palettes rather than the 50 something colors the NES has to work with. Hell, even the Atari 2600 had 128 actual usable colors lol. The Genesis only has like 512 possible colors i think, so it's still way better in that aspect.

>>10831887
I mean I will be an asshole and point out that you can abuse DMA to get 4096 simultaneous colors, but it's unfortunately not usable on emulators so realistically you're working with a palette of 64 from 512.

>>10830706
are you saying there is a way to download books from achive.org so I can read them offline, I'd like to put the whole thing on a tablet or my phone. 6502 and z80 documentation is easy to find. All the 68000 books I found don't let you do it.

>>10832850
>are you saying there is a way to download books from achive.org so I can read them offline
I'm saying there's a way to download books from archive.org. I'll also say it's very easy. Whether you can read books is a different story.
>All the 68000 books I found don't let you do it.
That's entirely a (You) problem. Frankly I've never heard of anyone else getting filtered by this. I have dozens, possibly hundreds of books I've downloaded from archive.org.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwSkmAp7f8
CTR PC Port is nearing completion

>>10831570
Thanks buddy. Looks great!

>>10834009
whoa

New pre-patched game:

>Metroid II: Return of Samus (SGB Enhanced).gb
http://files.catbox.moe/k9ygv2.gb
(v. 1.0) https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8548/

>>10814241
Good thread

>>10834097
>Looks great!
Oof dev biffed it. Mission failed.
>C3 Project
>Worst GBA RPG ever.

>>10833702
I think he's pointing out that the PDFs have expiries and DRM on them. The layman can't crack this without spending a small penny on specialized software.

>>10835920
0/troll. No one is that retarded.

>>10835030
Many such cases. He'll just have to find a way to ruin it, is all.

>>10814241
Is Chimp really the best way to lock a new HDD to your Xbox? Is there not a way to do it without weird cable swapping bullshit? And before anyone says anything I'm aware of hardmodding's advantages. It's not an option for me right now.

Took a break from making my hack. Now it's time to continue.

>>10834563
By the way, I appreciate these and keep an eye out for them in every thread. Just letting you know.

New Mega Drive stuff: https://twitter.com/diegzumillo/status/1777755534063460852

>>10839957
>>10839981
Who volunteers to take a crack at translating either of these?

>>10834563
Ironic that Metroid II is front and center of the SGB marketing but never actually received any true SGB treatment heh. Couldn't even be bothered with a Link's Awakening DX style release. Nintendo hates this game.

>>10840047
I volunteer you.

Now checking "add more little mans" off the todo list.

>>10842031
It's coming along! Is that GBstudio or custom ASM?

>>10842109
100% assembly. I wouldn't even know where to begin with something like GB Studio.

>>10837976
sovl

>>10842031
>slopes
Holy shit. You have my respect.

Hereditary alopecia summon.

With sound: https://webmshare.com/play/gOMym
Slow alt link: https://files.catbox.moe/8h8tcd.webm

>>10814241
SNES dev kit get big updates
https://github.com/alekmaul/pvsneslib/compare/master...develop

>>10844928
cave story snes port when

>>10844938
Is that GBA port ever going to be finished? I wanna throw it on my SP.

>>10844970
never ever

Bumping for good luck

>>10840047
Time Twist? It's kind of cool but I don't know much about FDS translation (data formats and whatnot), it would be easier to do a cartridge game.

>>10829714
>>10829689

>>10840047
>>10841759
Is this a bot or some weird samefag?

>>10846454
i posted >>10841759

no i want him to translate it. i'm tired of having to do other people's work for them.

>>10846461
>no i want him to translate it. i'm tired of having to do other people's work for them.
Exactly what translation work have you done? Direct us to it please.

This one should be tr...

>kanji
Dammit.

>>10846470
Here you go.

>>10846515
that's already translated for PCE. the SNES port would be pretty easy if anyone wants to do it.

>>10846454
No. People who post like that are faggots. Do it yourself if you want it so badly.

>>10844938
Aliens, Darkstalkers, X-Men: CotA and CV: SotN soon

>>10844189
>Hereditary alopecia summon
I'd like to un-summon this one, please.

>>10848657
Accept your fate.

>>10834009
Will it have online play?

>>10846838
>Do it yourself if you want it so badly
who's doing what again?

>>10844970
No but there is a pretty much complete megadrive port (Unless the dev wants to add the bonus Wind Fortress area from Cave Story+)
>>10846986
I'm waiting for the Mega Drive SOTN.
>>10837976
Ooohhh.. That looks pretty.

>>10849756
GBA Genesis emulator when?

>>10849792
NEVER!

Ultra does what censorship can’t?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQghZ6dRok

>>10850214
Even though it's software-rendered, it still has that N64 blur. Impressive.

NEW BREAD
>>10850851
>>10850851
>>10850851

They should bring back "Marked for Deletion (old)" for expired threads.