/vr/ - Retro Games

TAH TAH TAH TAH

that game sucked

>>10801010
bing bing wahoo

I love how low-poly this looks

>>10801010
>that game is awesome
ftfy

>>10801007
Fun game. Feels like it could have used a couple more levels. I liked it when treasure were still at Konami, games like Contra 3 more more balanced and polished. Treasure's games are good but they put in too much weird shit at the expense of making the game well-rounded.

>>10801010
Absolute shit-tier taste.

Amazing game, somehow got popular with zoomers too.

>>10801134
weird shit is good shit

>>10801387
100% agave, and the weird name which still inspires curiosity just as it did 20 years ago. Also saki is in smash bros as a cameo

>>10801432
Did Agave became viral? It's a good song.
Anyway this was like 10 years ago but I was dating a girl in her late teens and she and her friends were emulating this game, and it seemed like it was popular among their peers in general from school and the like

>>10801007
what game is this

>>10801508
Sin and Punishment

>>10801440
Heroine A is the jam

>>10801007
Why did they make the protagonist look like a girl when it's actually a guy? What kind of shit is this?

>>10801870
David Bowie reference

>>10801870
He's 14 and his gf is 15 (lucky bastard)

>>10801007
I play this game on mouse and keyboard

>>10801007
>Get bonus!

>>10802967
That must’ve been difficult, Faye.

>>10802967
Lolwut?

>>10801870
We want the gay faggot audience

>>10801010
this
also sold like shit

>>10804963
Protag gets a girl pregnant though
>>10804965
Based salesfag

>>10804963
Just because I sucked a few dicks at the frathouse my freshman year and I like Sin and Punishment, it doesn't make me gay. I also like Gunblade New York, WHAT NOW!?
>In before Gay Blade New York

>>10801440
that's odd to me but anything is possible

>>10803623
It makes it way easier, movement and aim wise
>>10804171
Yup

>>10801007
it was Nintendo’s failed response to Panzer Dragoon. Main character is this enormous faggot that I’m 99.9% sure was purely inspired by Macaulay Culkin.

>>10806060
>it was Nintendo’s failed response to Panzer Dragoon.
c'mon, they'd long stopped caring about what sega was doing at that point.

The sole reason why I have my Wii-U hooked up to anything these days is so I can still replay 1 and 2 every 9 months.

>>10806060
>failed response
*chad response
Star Fox 64 already kicked PD's ass, S&P just dabbed on it's corpse while standing on a steel foldable.

>we got a Fox clone with a boring grab/item gimmick instead of prototype Shulk
>censored too
Coomer hype ruin everything like usual.

>>10806201
>replying to falseflag console warring
They're not even similar. PD is a rail shooter with 360 rotating turret camera, S&P is a rail shooters with cabal and platforming mechanics, and melee attacks.
Both games are great. Fuck australiakun

Fuck my ass trying to 1cc this game on hard is draining my soul. The only real trouble spots are 2-2 and 3-2, and 3-2 isn't even that bad after a while. But 2-2 is absolutely fucked. It's a full ass 12 minutes, twice as long as the 2nd longest levels and as long as both the other acts. This wouldn't be so bad if there were more checkpoints for training but as it is you have to go through 4 minutes of trivial combat to get to the first problem spots and the big ones don't happen until 8 and 10 minutes in. If by some miracle you make it past 2-2 you can still die to poor RNG in 2-3 or getting overwhelmed by spiders in 3-1 before tackling 3-2, and if you die there it's another 20 minutes before you try 2-2 again.

Fuck, I really don't want to have to break out an emulator and use save states but I've been grinding this on and off for months and just want to move on to the second game.

>>10807206
>Fuck my ass trying to 1cc this game on hard is draining my soul
I kneel. Can't even finish this game on normal. Thank God there's an easy mode. If you got that far, you probably have talent to do it. Just take a break, lest you get burnt-out. Start the second game, if you will, then come back later.

>>10807206
I know what you mean, I was also working on practicing 2-2 on hard.
I don't really mind it though, it's just so fun and amazing. Probably one of the craziest set pieces in any game I played.
I don't think you have to pressure yourself though, just play whenever you feel like.
You didn't move to S&P2? Or you mean doing a hard play off that? If you just mean playing casually, go play it, leave your hard mode S&P1 for later.
I still never beat the hard mode and got distracted with other things, but I know I can always go back to it.
Learning all the levels is a pleasure and I never get tired of playing it.

Wait. Is S&P1 harder than 2? It's been a while since I played either but I was feeling in the mood.

>>10807608
I thought both were challenging, but I played 1 way more.
Feel like maybe levels themselves are harder on 1, while 2 has harder bosses IIRC.
Also depends what controls are you using. 1 in anything but an original N64 controller will be harder because the game was built around the specific sensibility of the 64 stick. 2 was built around playing with the wiimote and Nunchuck so playing with a regular controller will also feel slower especially with how the game throws shit at you from all angles.

>>10807615
If you're emulating, I've found Hori controllers have a nice analog stick for retro games, even for the N64. Nothing beats the original, but, as of now, it's the closest (or more comfortable) that I could get.

Picrel: me getting assblasted by this game.

>>10807635
Airan...

I have so many modern games I could be playing
But this is what I'd rather be doing

>>10807934
S&P2 still feels modern to me

>>10807951
That game is 15 years old this year but I still think it moves with such a nice speed, looks pretty good for Wii standards, and so much going on at once with a great sense of speed. One of those games that feels timeless. I know this is /vr/ but my love for Star Succesor is great.

>>10807206
>I really don't want to have to break out an emulator and use save states
It's the only way

>>10807951
S&P2 to me will be one of those timeless arcade style games. The game looks great considering the hardware, everything runs fast, fluid, so many enemies on screen at once. The combat is quick, fast paced, and pays off to be more methodical when it comes to fighting bosses. It's a game I've kept playing for the last 14 years to actually maintain and increase my high score. I haven't cared about that in a game since I was a kid but this game and Space Harrier are the two I keep going back to.

>>10808196
You are one based motherfucker.
Not S&P1 though?

>>10806209
And she doesn't even have her iconic voice because the developers reddit-appealed to fags that don't even care about this hack.

>>10809084
What happened?

>>10809453
They used the JP voice of Marina even though the hack is specifically made to appeal to English-speaking players. It's not a humongous deal, and I like her Japanese dub too, but it's inconsistent with most of the rest of the hack's choices.0

>>10808668
I would play S&P1 one a bit more once I get a cart for it. Nothing against emulation but I'm just one of those people who like playing on hardware with my CRT.

>>10809470
Understandable. Ever thought of getting an Everdrive? That way you can also play Bangai O on real hardware, great experience.

>>10809475
>Bangai O
Do I need a guide or something to play that? Everything is in Japanese. Does it matter if I don't understand what's happening?

>>10809492
Yeah, just look up how the shop works (upgrade either character's shots, get HP refill, or dont buy anything and gain big bonus points), then the gameplay is pretty intuitive.
The plot is funny, if you want to know whats going on play the english version on Dreamcast, but a lot of tue humor is really lost in translation.

>>10809475
Yes actually. I want to get a Everdrive for this exact reason, plus it'd be nice to get it for Bangai O (never played it) and a few odd N64 games that I'll never pay second hand for. Plus having those japanese Aki wrestling games with a english patch would be nice.

>>10809507
>I want to get a Everdrive
You can get a "Super64" it's more or less the same thing.

>>10809464
Thanks for telling. I thought that hack let you choose between japanese and american differences, didn't it? Or that doesn't apply to Marina?

>>10809514
Honestly what is the different other than the Everdrive is $10 more and doesn't look like a Aliexpress cart?

>>10801007
Any more games like this about patting your head while rubbing your belly? Too many games play too similarly, I need something that controls unlike anything else and will make me feel like a retarded child again.

>>10809542
Np, and sadly, I don't know if it has a "JP-ENG" switch at all. Hopefully sometime in the future, as that would be really cool like in Melee.

>>10809691
>Honestly what is the different other than the Everdrive is $10 more and doesn't look like a Aliexpress cart?
If you buy the most expensive everdrive (Everdrive X7) it has two differences. A real-time clock so you can play Animal Crossing and it automatically saves games so that you can power off without losing data (the cheaper everdrives and clones require you to hold reset to return to the loader menu before you power off or the internal cart save won't be written to the sd card). But this cart costs a lot more than $10 more.

>There are people who considers this game easy... Too easy, even.
I'm fucked! How do you do that? I can't even finish it on normal mode. It surprised me some folks are bored by the default difficulty.

>>10810982
Most likely shitposters.
Game's difficulty I'd say is hard, once you get used to the controls and all the options you have at hand and get good at multitasking the aiming and the platforming/dodging/melee, then the game sort of "clicks" and it becomes slightly less hard but it's still a demanding game.
Hard mode is hard for sure but that goes without saying

>>10810982
I think some people that are struggling might not be using the sword enough

>>10805949
Wow

>>10807206
Starting to get to the space cannon with over half health consistently but the final stretch is the hardest part of the game by far. First you have to get through the orange ball mine field, then you have to survive the fucking engine fight before running the gauntlet of tracking blue balls. If you’re lucky enough to make it this far you better hope you have more than 1/3 health because parts of the final laser wall obstacle run are fucking impossible to dodge. At least the final part isn’t so bad.

>>10801007
Am i the only one who finds this game an eye sore?

>>10812605
Probably? I'd only understand that if you really hated knife-sharp low poly models. But it looks pretty cool and flashy, I like it.
I also like the city setting pre and post apocalypse, and the pacific US float level is just insane.

>>10801007
So is this game Evangelion as a rail shooter?

>>10812637
It is definitely influenced by Evangelion but I'd say is its own thing.
But yeah, you could say most japanese media after 1997 was influenced by Eva one way or another.
The TV CM was also clearly based on a Death and Rebirth CM.
https://youtu.be/pmf7yPWMyPg?si=xZaME8DlkTaLx1GN
https://youtu.be/HvM9Ai9Vk58?si=pcrHWWY2aZfK01hD

Only played S&P2. What am I missing?

>>10812661
S&P1 is a more grounded game... Literally. You can't float around like Soace Harrier as you can in 2, so 1 has a lot more jumping around.
Play it, it's worth it, especially if you liked 2.

>>10812661
1 actually has a kind of sweet story. I won't spoil anything.
It's one of the more underrated things I like about the game.

>>10812665
I’m really gonna miss the jumping when I play 2. It adds a level of mechanical depth to the game that floating just won’t match. There are times you have to jump over obstacles and you can also use it to dodge a lot of ground level attacks but that came with its own risk as it you had to be wary of where and when you’re landing and if you get hit in the air you take extra damage from falling. Throughout 2-2 there’s parts with two cannons sweeping side to side where you can just jump rope the bottom one while ignoring the top one but later on the cannons start fanning their bullets in a narrower spread and jump roping is more likely to get you hit in the air so it’s actually LESS risky to weave through the ground level bullets.

Shit I love jumping, I wish there was a straight up S&P1 clone genre.

>>10812814
You might like Hi no tori (the MSX version). It feels like proto 2D S&P. Except instead of having cabal-type 3D shooting it's a vertical shmup. Fairly simple in that regard, has some upgrades and items you can use but doesn't have melee attacks or anything fancy. But it does have jumping and platforming. Shooting & jumping in this game made me think of playing a sort of 2D ancestor of Sin and Punishment.
Be warned it has a really weird progression system where you play levels in a loop until you find certain keys to advance through new paths, so you will be having to revisit old levels again, it's really weird but I guess fits the source material's theme of eternal recurrence lol.

>>10801440
Ally Risker is such a banger

>>10807592
>just beat 2-2 3 times in a row
It’s all coming together. Now I just have to grind 3-2 for a couple hours and I should be able to do it.

>>10814269
Ganbare

>>10814495
>beat 3-2 5 times in a row
I feel it anon, it’s so close

>>10814551
Just go and do a hard run now. You can do it. Tonight is the night

>>10801870
Oh no....anon....you didn't.....oh dear....

Pure ludo.
The story and cutscenes don't make any sense, but they don't need to.

>>10814563
it is done
first try but I ended 3-2 with the tiniest sliver of health left

>>10814952
Based, congrats!

>>10801007
Is this what feeds Sneed?

>>10814843
They make a bit more sense if you read the story summary from the game manual and there's also a manga (untranslated). But yeah the S&P experience is to basically get bombarded with weird shit and being awesome.
Similar to the whole backstory for Alien Soldier.

>>10801007
I gave up on Bushido Blade when I was ~8yo because I started getting little boners when the gun chick would execute my character. Like yes mommy please subdue me.

>>10816368
Well that was random

>>10818338
Maybe anon thought Saki was a girl?

This game's story feels straight out of Betterman

>>10819285
>Betterman
dont give me false hope

>>10819405
The creature Saki turns into looks more like Betterman Nebula than an Evangelion

>>10816368
You made the right choice.
Playing fighting games with female characters gave me femdom fetish.

>>10820331
Betterman this, Betterman that... I'm so fucking tired! I'll just spill the beans: the bible tells you to be a better man, that's why it reminds you of Betterman.
>D-D-Does that mean...
Yes. "Sin & Punishment" also comes from the bible. It's only by becoming a better man that you can rise above the limits of a man, who is constantly dragged down by sin and suffering in punishment, and become closer to God. It's a Christening game all along.

>>10820792
You should've worked making ads for 00's game magazines anon

>>10820842
Thanks, anon! Unfortunately, there's too much madness in my mind to work reliably. Sin & Punishment is based though.