/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10808945
The original PSX release has two main versions: the Japanese and English versions. The Japanese version is an overall easier game and imo too easy. The english version is more difficult and is what commonly referred to as the "longbox" version.

The director's cut has two versions: the regular one and the dualshock version. Both introduce a new harder difficulty called advanced mode also known as arranged mode in the dualshock version. The regular DC version has the Japanese difficulty in standard mode, while the dualshock version has the American difficulty in standard mode. The dualshock version has a different soundtrack.

The Saturn version is mostly the same as the original PSX release but with some visual differences, the US version has the same difficulty as the American PSX release. The Saturn version includes a new game mode called Battle Game, its a fun arcadey shoot em up mode.

>From hardest to easiest
Advanced Mode > RE1 US > RE1 JP

>>10809023
Yeah, I only beat the NON-dualshock DC version before, so the Saturn version being as hard as the original US longbox made me realize I was playing on easy mode all this time. Beating the Saturn version was satisfying

>>10808945
>playing sega shitturn

>>10809031
Enjoying the shiturn exclusive Battle Game mode

>>10809039
>Battle Game only on Saturn
>Arranged only on PS1

The only version of RE1 that's fully uncensored is Japanese Saturn version. Not even the PC version with fan patch matches it.

>>10809045
>The only version of RE1 that's fully uncensored is Japanese Saturn version
Aren't the baguette and kraut versions uncensored?

>>10808945
I did something similar a few years ago playing the game through for the first time.
I played as Jill on PS1 long box, then went to Chris on Saturn. Not having auto aim definitely makes the Hunters difficult, and you have to take care in general to have some extra time to aim in fights.
You can't use the "aim to see if a zombie is dead or not" trick either.

>>10809023
PC version has both difficulties. Jap for first playthrough, USA for subsequent playthroughs. Do Chris, then Jill for nice balance.
>>10809045
Pure bullshit. Jap Saturn and PC with patch are both equally uncensored, and the PC version doesn't look like picrel.

>>10809031
>Will never get to experience kino like Radiant Silvergun, Panzer Dragoon, Shining Force, or the litany of obscure Japanese arcade games
It literally mogs PSX in so many ways, and this is coming from someone who grew up with that console.

>>10809023
>while the dualshock version has the American difficulty in standard mode
I thought DualShock Director's Cut had the Japanese difficulty for Original mode but with two ink ribbons. Someone load it up and shoot some hunters with the magnum. If they consistently die in one hit it's the Japanese difficulty.
Need to make my own shitty copypasta for this. This is my recommended playing order which skips easy difficulties and focuses on console versions for English speakers primarily. Always Jill first, then Chris:
US DC Original
JP SAT Version
JP SAT Battle Game
US DC Arrange
US DC DS Original (Assuming difficulty noted as above otherwise skip it if you really hate clown farts that much compared to the rest of the OST)
US Original
US SAT Version
US SAT Battle Game
Deadly Silence Original
Deadly Silence DS special features mode where you stab zombies with the stylus

>>10808945
I thought the Saturn version was harder than the Director's Cut. It took me several attempts to get through the hunter hallways on the revisit. Never did beat the original PSX version, only played it once in 1998. I got the DC shortly after.

>>10809780
Advanced Mode I should clairfy

>>10808945
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Resident_Evil_(PlayStation)/January_31,_1996_(Sample_Ver._01/31)
>The Sample Ver. 01/31 prototype of Resident Evil (aka Biohazard) is a debugging build. With a build date of January 31, 1996, it predates the final's Japanese release by 7 weeks.
>Considering its date so close to release, this version has an astonishing amount of differences compared to the final build which, along with pre-release material hints at the game going through wild gameplay and balance changes very late in development.
>Unlike in the final Japanese version, there is no auto-aiming. Auto-aiming would make its way into the February 08 version, dated only 8 days after this one.
It's obvious the game was fully designed without it in mind which is why it feels like it makes the game too easy in the final version. I'm kind of mixed on the decision but I can understand why they did it, for a majority of players the challenge that comes with positioning and making yourself vulnerable for an attack that can completely miss comes off frustrating more then anything. Wonder if maybe they decided to edit it out of the US version to test the reception between players who could and couldn't use it.

I didn't even know there was a auto aim in RE2 until I already completed a A/B playthrough

>>10810472
Yeah, in the international versions you have to choose the Type C controls which are identical to Type A except it has autoaim
In the JP version, autoaim is not only on by default but you actually have to use a cheat code to disable it

>>10810472
>>10810492
Interesting, I played it on Dreamcast first and that was one of my first RE experiences. It took me some getting used to not having auto-aim when going to RE1 Longbox and Saturn.

>>10810328
I get that autoaim was initially something they just hacked in at the last minute for the first game but it would have been nice if they refined it a little for the sequels. imo it should have been more of an assist to nudge you on target as long as the enemy was within a fairly generous cone in front of the character. No reason to make it super picky in games like these. But instantly snapping 180° and locking onto an enemy behind you or aiming with laser precision at an enemy on the other side of a huge room like the dining room balcony is really dumb. Zombies playing dead also should have been excluded from critters it would lock on to.

OP here, I should have checked TCRF earlier:
>The international versions have an adjusted difficulty.
>Auto-aiming was disabled in the international versions.
>Enemies have more health and deal more damage.
>The player is given three ink ribbons in the Japanese version with every pickup, but only two in the international versions.
The auto-aim and ink ribbons are obvious but this confirms the enemies also being more difficult. It explains why it takes so many shotgun shells to kill a hunter in the US longbox and US Saturn versions

>>10810328
>Wonder if maybe they decided to edit it out of the US version to test the reception between players who could and couldn't use it.
No. Rental market.

>>10810720
If the US rental market is always the answer when there is a difference in difficulty, then why is Mega Man 2 easier in the US?

Ok but which PC version?

>>10811030
>PC version
Classic Rebirth as always but the music quality is ass unless you also install a high quality music mod
Also keep in mind that it's the easiest version of the game (you don't even need ink ribbons to save as Jill)
I personally prefer the Classic Rebirth versions of RE2 and RE3 but I'd say you should emulate the NON-dualshock, Director's Cut PS1 version for RE1

>>10811038
>unless you also install a high quality music mod
Then just... install the high quality music mod?
>but I'd say you should emulate the NON-dualshock, Director's Cut PS1 version for RE1
Perfectly acceptable, and the best "retail" experience available. Just watch the uncensored Kenneth and intro videos on YT and you have the full RE1 experience. True Director's Cut mod is also an option if you need to have it all in one package but either way you're getting slightly censored in-game gore compared to PC.

>>10810720
Mikami gave the rental explanation in a making-of book, but in an interview he gives another explanation and explains that unlike the Japanese market, in the west players seeked and revered difficulty. This is easily backed up by looking at magazines. "Rentals" are a factor but pleasing the player will always be the prime factor.
These days people only remember the "rental" explanation because the concept of enjoying difficulty has become completely alien.

>>10809208
>PC with patch are both equally uncensored

PC version, even with patch, is missing some things like some death scenes that are still censored, while the Japanese Saturn version has those.

>>10811635
Let's see some proof.

>>10808945
Saturn version is neat. I noticed a few minor differences in BGs from what I was used to as well.

>>10812119
Yeah it's a shame they didn't get transparencies to work properly, but it's kind of neat they changed some backgrounds to accommodate. The vats in the final boss room are all broken in the Saturn version, which is kind of cool as it implies the monsters escaped. (I still prefer the look of the PS1 game though).

>>10812517
>it implies the monsters escaped
ehh... sorta. still really doesn't account for the sheer number or even the variety of them. i prefer to believe there more more floors on the lab elevator full of tanks you didn't see.