/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

/Vertex Relocation/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10592017


=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[3-20]/arena/ is back in a new home
>>>/vm/1214803

[3-19]Sewer Jam for Quake 2 Remastered is Out!
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-re-release-sewer-jam-volume-1

[3-17]Anon remembered that Freedom exists and it was updated
https://freedoom.github.io/

[3-17]nugget 3.0 released:
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-3.0.0
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2779971

[3-17]Speedmappack 228 for Quake released, 18 maps all using vanilla gameplay and textures, no Copper whatsoever
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/sm228-vanilla.335/

[3-16]CLASSIC MARATHON will be released for Free on Steam soon!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

[3-16]Doom 2 in City Only Released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143936-doom-2-in-city-only-rc1

[3-16]Wrath entitites file has finally released. Mapfags can now make new levels.
https://github.com/Official3DRealms/wrath-mapping

[3-15]Chex Quest 3: Vanilla Edition makes CQ3 playable without ZDoom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143907/

[3-14]Quakespasm Spiked updated, now a dozen times faster. Can play any map at 60+ fps.
https://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [dd-mm] date bracket)

Small PSA for this thread:
Give your condolences to revae, his father who taught him how to love doom and mapping has passed away this monday.

>>10792598
damn
hope shit gets better for ya, man

What's a good source port of Blood for a first time play-through?
>>10792598
I hope you fare well, revae, I know what it's like to lose a loved one especially if it's in the same house.

>>10792680
nblood, buildgdx, raze, notblood are pretty much all fine
the only way you can really go wrong is with fresh supply, it's got problems that can't be fixed because of publisher bullshit

>>10792695
even now that the publisher bought the dev they still won't patch it

>>10791917
I guess were done then, GGs
>>10792336
God damn that code is disgusting, good to know those hooks exist, though.

>>10792680
be sure to make the video files work. there are some cutscenes. one should play before the first level.

>>10792709
GGs and hopefully it will be some help least

>>10791338
>I suspect that the reason I'm so fond of old architecture and weird monsters is the fact I was first exposed to shareware Quake as early as 3 or 4 years of age, and would replay it often. Now, I see places like the lamp-lit castle hallways in Amnesia: The Dark Descent and think "huh, that's kinda cozy".
That's an interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing it. I was 12-16 when I first played Quake myself, and back then I didn't even like it near as much as I do. However I did grow up with games like House of the Dead with their axe wielding, chainsaw arm zombies, so it always pleased me to see enemies like the ogres in Quake. Still not sure why I enjoy the aesthetic as a whole so much.

>>10791917
ggs

>>10792713
Videos are working; it took me a few tries, but I finished the first level on Well Done.

>>10792868
well done

Mods asleep. Post Your Custom Title Screens.

Bonus Points if they work on DOS or DSDA.

>>10792153
My deepest condolences man. I'm glad he was able to affect your life so positively.

>>10792594
>[3-19]Sewer Jam for Quake 2 Remastered is Out!
Lmao, that idiot Doom-Shakalaka reused his audio track (track39.ogg) and video (doom.ogv) filenames from the N64 jam so you can't just drop it into baseq2.

>>10792598
I'm sorry, revae, it must be terrible

>>10791917
Alright so that took like 20 minutes.

>Try out new Quakespasm Spiked
>Can't run big Mjolnir maps
Guess it's mostly meant for multiplayer but still disappointing.

>>10792598
Damn, hope Revae is doing alright, it’s never easy to lose a family member.

>>10792598
My condolences Revae

>>10792959
Still his map is fucking great

>>10793078
Would it be possible to make Ogres able to adjust their aim depending on where the player is?

>>10793202
God no. The first half is especially bad, since the ladder physics aren't suited to the way they're being used, and it's far too easy to go the wrong direction and end up with no ammunition or weapons.
The good maps are Dash Through Sewer Trash, Waste Treatment 201, and Bio-Energy Plant. The worst level is Shambo.

>>10792598
RIP grandpa of viking doom may you frag in valhalla

>>10793219
his map made me feel that i was playing a proper remake of the old aliens doom into Q2, and i am talking about HH labs.
I wish someone could port AliensTC into Q2 and make use of the remastered stuff

I think Chris Holden is eager to share or release STAND Source code if he wants it

>>10792598
Fuck, I'm sorry for your loss dude.

If it's any small comfort, because of him, you've inspired a lot of people to try their hand at doing stuff with Doom.

>>10792598
Sorry for your loss revae, thanks to your pops we got the greatest Doom TC of all time

Is there a way to sell stuff to the merchant in Deathstrider?

>>10793383
Yeup. Drop the stuff in front of them. It’s good for refunding weapons you’re no longer using.

>>10793383
As anon said, drop stuff at the merchant's feet. Gotta stay close though. Plus it only works for items with a base price of $250+. Refund percentage is laughable but it's better than nothing. Don't forget to remove the upgrades first.

>you have won! Your victory enabled humankind to evacuate earth and escape the nightmare
>you are the only human left on the face of the planet
>you sit back and wait for death, content
>but then, earth control beams down message from space
>slowly and painfully you get up and return into the fray
Didn't expect scythe.wad would give me feels.

>>10793446
That’s just the default Doom 2 text. I bet it’s been awhile since you’ve last been through it.

>>10793446
that's just the vanilla text

>>10793434
Is there a bind I can make that ‘radios’ the merchant to follow me, or do I have to be near them?

>>10793468
There's a setting in the menu to make them follow you on a hoverboard. If you're playing someone that can do magic, Mass Recall will summon the merchant if you don't aim it at the floor. You can also pick them up with Shift + Use, carry them wherever you want, and put them down again by holding crouch for a second.

>>10793475
>>10793468
When using the hoverboard, look at them and hold Sprint for about a second while both of you are standing still (safety measure to avoid toggling it by accident) to switch between "follow" and "stay". Distance is irrelevant.

>>10792153
>>10792598
My condolences, Revae. Sounds like he was a great person and father, which makes it all the more heart-wrenching. May he rest in peace.

>>10793461
>>10793462
Oh shit I'm sorry, should've looked it up before posting.
Yeah, I think it's been like 6 or 7 years since I played original completion, I didn't even recognize small parts from icon of sin wall sprite in one wad recently. Besides first two levels only thing I really remember from Doom 2 is a giant crusher map with a lot of lifts, not even sure why.

>>10792872
CRUDOX CRUO!

When does it get good?

>>10793590
It's gud. You aren't yet. Git gud.

>>10793592
I am gud at quake 2 but this expansion so far is just boring encounters and really butt ugly maps.

>>10793590
How are you playing it? It’s solid but has a real dark sewer start, and KexQ2 gives you a flashlight.

>>10793608
xatrix rushed with this expansion since redneck was in development so...

>>10793590
It's a little undervalued post-remaster, a lot of the changes the remaster made to enemies were introduced here.

>>10793078
it looks like these are coming out of his crotch area
is it me or making posts on this site is getting more and more tedious? I swear the captcha was much faster in the past and I made less errors - damn, got one trying to post this

>>10793617
Playing it on the remastered steam version. Dont really mind the flashlight and how dark it is, that just hides how ugly the maps are if anything.

>>10793630
>posting is more tedious
>ip count is gone
This year is going to be quite a ride.
>>10793664
It doesn’t look as good as Xatrix’s Redneck Rampage maps but they felt more functional. They would go on to hit a sweet spot with Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

what should i grab for gog games before its over

>>10792594
https://mega.nz/folder/GYZyTD4J#HBRRipn5aukd90kKWyDkxw
Thanks to Kinsie, that MetaDoom map is finally playable as "CultistRage" PK3.
Next time, I should do that proper PK3 formatting myself.

>>10793715
before whats over?
is gog gonna shut down?

>>10793739
gog is fine, different site

>>10793715
Fallout Tactics. So fucking underrated compared to the rest of the games.

>>10793748
does FO:T still work online after Gamespy shut down? I remember playing it during the NY sniper thing in the early 2000's. also discovering how utterly broken voodoo is. gets less broken with points limits, but still

>>10793769
I have no idea, I played single player and it was pretty challenging for me, coming from FO and FO2.

>>10793834
i wish one of this guys could show up, even on reddit of all places and say that they have the source code saved and they are uploading to github.

i think one of them still works as a guitarist to a band

>>10793205
With id1 progs (vanilla gameplay components) no. Mods have made this possible for years however. For Drake, all ogres are Z-aware of the player. For Copper I believe it's a flag you have to set, ditto AD and progs_dump 3.

>>10793748
The entirely mission-based structure kinda screwed it, which is a shame since the engine was really good.

I wonder if anything ever came out of that GZDoom-based Fallout 1 game.

>load into level
>monsters: 0/900+
do you skip the level? or do you delete the wad entirely, knowing that the developer is a lazy hack?

i dont play slaughtershit albeit

>>10793912
I smile and load Russian Overkill.

>>10793912
I accept the challenge because I'm not a faggot who uses Doom to steamroll things.

>>10793748
It gets undeserved shit, but I think it's fun.

>>10792780
>image
wut mod?

>>10793912
>>10793915
Anemic and lethargic posts.

>>10793957
Mjolnir
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/quake-mj%C3%B6lnir.243/
Currently a demo, still in the works. Has two episodes and a hidden remake of Hexen 1 within it

>>10793912
I play it first and then decide how I feel about it.

>>10793590
I can never ever remember which addon is which. Is it the Antonov's one or it's about those fucking piece of dogshit imbecile ceiling turrets?

>>10793993
It’s the first one. Ground Zero has the satan turrets, The Reckoning has the nightmare beta brains. The remaster nerfs the GZ turrets but turns every brain into the beta brain from TR.

Just beat Wrath. Holy shit, what a thoroughly average game. You're telling me it took them nearly half a decade to finish it?

>>10793912
delete immediately, but yours is an exaggeration and it never happens.
i'm fine with one, two "big levels", but a lot of them are lazy garbage

>>10794030
I think everything about it is above average myself except the combat because of the limited enemy types. I just want them to return to the game in a year with more enemies and the whole game remixed.

>>10794030
>You're telling me it took them nearly half a decade to finish it?
The “3D Realms curse” doesn’t look like it’s going away anytime soon, but I’m marginally interested in the fact that an old Quake mod dev (the guy who made the mod Quoth) seems to be in charge of things now.
I still don’t have much interest in the game though, haven’t even made it through the “demo episode” yet.

>>10794068
I made a post many threads ago about Kell and Wrath; he must have taken over for episode 3 because I feel none of his influence here in episode 2. And episode 2 isn't bad, I love Egypt and I love Serious Sam, it's just like I said in that post, enemy encounters blend together.

>>10794030
>decided to use the least optimized and most literally homosexual Quake port
>hired newfag Quake 1 trenchzoomers who can't into the Quake 3 map format because you actually have to model things in a way that makes sense and is optimized
>claim to be indie, but sign up with one of the biggest griftware nostalgia bait publishers in existence that keeps jerking them around with dumb ideas and shitty pay
>Darkplaces is so fucked that making a Kex-style wrapper makes the framerate unplayable, so they have to simultaneously make a Unity Engine version of the game for consoles (which still isn't out and will probably just be cancelled)
>promise multiplayer, announce it's cancelled at the last minute, and leave those wondering why to find that the player model isn't even fucking animated
I'm shocked the game even came out, honestly.

>>10794030
i thought it was good, but yeah there were like 5 enemies short for how long the game is
also, does anyone know what outlander difficulty does in comparison to hard mode?

>>10794075
Dude, they sperged at Civvie's video because he literally broke off the character to shit on 3dRealms and Slipgate hard.
Pretty much all of it was Friedrich and 3DR's fault

>>10794075
>hired newfag Quake 1 trenchzoomers who can't into the Quake 3 map format because you actually have to model things in a way that makes sense and is optimized
Anon that's not nearly the problem. The problem is in order to see any lighting changes you have to recompile the entire map. They handicapped themselves hard when they decided on using a Quake 1 based engine instead of using Unreal to mimic the Quake 1 aesthetic.

>>10794071
Oh cheers that’s where I first got the news, thanks. Uncovering all this fun old Quake stuff, Quoth might be my favorite of the “gameplay mods” (although I spent the most time/had the most fun with the Drake version of that cotm map anons mentioned last thread).

>>10794101
>using Unreal to mimic the Quake 1 aesthetic.
I can't think of a single Unreal 'boomer shooter' that actually captures Quake 1's aesthetic. They all have a plastic sheen to them and feel like shit.
Also, they could have gotten around the lighting compiling issue by either cutting the maps into multiple BSPs (which would also help optimization on Shitplaces), or simply not making such tiringly fuckhuge maps. Since they're using the Quake 3 map format, they could also just light the BSP in Blender.

>>10794107
You're preaching to the choir. I like Wrath, more than most of you I reckon. Sure they could have made maps smaller, sure they could have done this or that or not gone to 3DR, none of that matters when it comes to the GAME, and the game lacks more enemies to facilitate more interesting combat scenarios. I'm on the third map of episode 2 and they're still giving me zombies (which pose no threat because they don't throw parts of themselves like Quake 1 zombies) together with other enemies.

>>10792591
I've heard that neither 64-bit Macs nor any version of Windows after XP Service pack 3 (or maybe Vista after basic) can natively run UT 2004.l due to the game's unusual coding and heavy reliance on hardware accelerated audio. How much of this claim is true?

>>10794125
One way to find out.

>>10793404
>>10793434
Cool, thanks /vr/os

>>10794110
Wrath's levels all feel like they're balanced for sword starts, even in E2 and 3 where you have a full arsenal from the last set of levels.

>>10794030
Would Wrath be better if it was just a map pack for Quake? With Quake weapons and enemies (maybe add 1-2 guns at most), for any modern Quake source port (they already have enough fancy graphics features)?

>>10793912
if I have no idea what to expect I might check some of the other levels if they also have a 1000+ count
a couple big levels are fine

>>10794165
I think so.

>>10794030
some of the levels look cool and have memorable set pieces
the first half was a bit of a slog
>tfw finished with maxed out powerups and over 70 tethers
I did die a couple times tho before I got used to the way faster projectile speeds

>>10794165
there are a lot of BIG rooms with flying enemies that spawn very far away and a lack of sniping weapons would be a pain
and no, the lightning would not be enough

>>10794125
It worked up to Windows 8.1 without the need for compatibility modes last I checked, but I may have installed some unofficial memory increaser. Can't remember.

>>10794110
I could enjoy a smaller or focused roster if I find the enemies enjoyable enough, and some personality goes a long way.
I’m not feeling much from fighting these guys. I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt for now, maybe I’m just not in the mood.
>>10794136
Whatcha playing it with?

Anyone willing to share the Sigil 2 Thor music for the wad? I never see it uploaded here, I must missed it.

>>10792598
Rest in Peace. His influence is felt throughout the Doom community.

currently stuck on MAP23 (Demonology) of Going Down. missing two orange skulls. one in the bedroom and the last one I don't know

>>10794125
Runs on my Win10 system without issue or compatibility mode fuckery.

Now UT99 that's a different kettle of fish, I had to do a whole lot of fuckery to get that to stop stuttering.

>>10794372
Ok thanks.
How about Unreal GOLD?

>>10794363
For the bedroom one, check the automap
The other one is probably in the pillar room since that's the easiest one to miss.
The others are in:

Spider mastermind room
Dining room
Laboratory
Library
Hidden passage behind the library

Lol what?

>>10792594
Kiwi Farms released a map pack. 17 maps, meant for ZDoom-based ports.
https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/kfdoom-zip.5837326/
A few are the mappers' first attempt at making anything.

>>10794432
yeah I grabbed a demo that showed me the remaining one
the pillar room is nasty because you have to look up, which doesn't really work unless you use the opengl renderer or think to turn around
the bedroom one is just.. a secret. opposite an evil eye though so maybe I was just a bit slow in the minds

>>10794494
>only way to access the final boss is to enter a password from the game into the dev team's webpage, which has probably been offline for the last 13 years
yeah, it's sovl

Is TSPG down or something? Every single BYOC server in the US is just gone.

>>10794530
The lolcow website? Huh.

>>10794538
One million hours in google search engine

>>10794541
Yeah. It took them a while, but they still got it done before 94 Protons.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/kiwi-farms-community-doom-mapping-project.180151/

>>10794494
The Last map was never finished
if someone reverse enginers the DLL for Remaster, the Guardian should be the last boss.

>>10793590
It's all pretty good but it's all the same which gets boring fast. All the criticisms people have about Quake 1 (it's all brown and spongey) are far more accurate to Quake 2 where the only real difference is how many of what enemy you're fighting in a given brown and orange techbase or cave.

>>10794384
I've not tried it but I assume it's the same as UT99 with the game by default running too quick.

Still fixable though, and obviously nobody should feel bad for pirating it since you can't even buy that shit now.

>>10794547
>first post in they're already noticing shit about David Newton
lol

>>10794574
Quake 2's colored lighting really sticks out after playing traditional Quake 1 maps, and there's brightmaps for all those colored panels now.

>>10794541
I mean, SA forums actually ran for cacowards last year with an ok mappack, so I guess lolcow forum users all like doom quite a lot.

>>10792591 Could you guys recommend me some modern D∞M 1 WADs? I already played Si6iL and it's sequel, and want to see how other people mix things up with the first game.

>>10794709
see
>>10776170
>>10776385

>>10794709
>D∞M 1
Playing them with Freedoom?

>>10794709
Double Impact is really gud.

>>10794709
Hell's Bane
Alpha Accident
UDINO
2002ADO
2022ADO
No End In Sight
Nihility
Solar Struggle
ConC.E.R.Ned
Double Impact
Arrokoth
Lunar Catastrophe
CH Retro Episode
Doom the Way ID Did
Wonderful Doom
Fava Beans
The Ultimate NMD
The Classic Episode
PhobosDeimos Anomaly
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/List_of_notable_WADs
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Category:Doom_WADs
https://onemandoom.blogspot.com/p/index-of-reviews.html

If there's a Doom 64 why isn't there a Doom 128 yet? It's been like 50 years.

>>10794739
Doom 128 is a thing, it's been around for years.

>>10793912
I enjoy it because I'm not a fag who has limited taste in only tight corridor maps.

Doom 256^64 when

>>10793912
lmao how are bitch-made posts like this are still made to this day

>>10794739
doom 720 when

>>10792591
I STILL think that the ship at the intro screen to TNT Evilution comes off as a knockoff USS Enterprise.

DooM 512 when?

>>10794798
Because they're either baiting with something that always gets replies or they're just bad at video games

I was given a test build of Doom 4096. No, I won’t provide a download link

Look at how many powers of two I can name!!!
Doom 2147483648

>>10794805
We made that already.

>>10793912
I go
>"999+ monsters? Wow, this is gonna be great, I bet this wad comes with a huge fucking map full of cool megastructures, just like that entire doom 1 into one map wad."
And then I get sad when it's just hordes spawning in sometimes instead of a whole new world.

>>10794725 No.
>>10794726 Do you mean FreeD∞M? If so, then I already played it.

Any .wads with lolis?

>>10794870
Oh right, I forgot Ralphis and Rottking donated Double Impact to FreeDoom. Yeah, you've already played it, so maybe consider something else (but it's worth experiencing with its proper textures and music desu).

>>10794657
But Q1 has colored lighting since 2001...

>>10794871
Ad Mortem has gremlins, flying kind too

>>10794885
Gremlins isn't the Cute & Funny I had in mind.

Long overdue but I finally beat Ashes ep 1 (main+dead man walking). It's good stuff. Especially loved the FAL in DMW.

On to Afterglow now, any quick tips to know for that one?

>>10794893
Don't waste scrap on pistol upgrades, it'll never surpass the machine pistol. Musket, machine pistol and pump action shotgun are the holy trinity of guns.

>>10794882
I guess I didn’t regard those as “traditional Quake levels”, more comparing the original campaigns between the two games.
I suppose Quake 2 truly becomes grey, brown, and orange when you play it through the software renderer. For Quake 1, even with low textures, all the colors they chose for the 64 port were nice.

>>10794915
Both Q1 and Q2 enhanced versions introduced new lighting in original campaigns that wasn't in the original game. In Q1 it's not so good.

>>10794901
Should probably emphasize that I meant only the 9mm. The .45 revolver's first upgrade is actually extremely good.

>>10794901
>>10794924
Noted. I guess scrap is more important in afterglow then?

>>10794871
Angelic Aviary

>>10794931
Aye. Weapons can be upgraded for 150 scrap a pop and those are almost always worth the investment.

>>10794530
It's like if /pol/ tried to make another wad.

>>10794942
neat. thanks

>>10794962
Good times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=614akDkzvtE
Headphones warning

>>10794976
That actually came from here btw.

>>10794962
That was all Scroton, he was a /vr/trooper too

You guys got any good tutorials on using Trenchbroom?

>>10795065
Are you totally novitiate?

>>10795065
What, like separate from Dumptruck's series and anything else easily searchable on Google?

Hey original newsposter/thread baker, take care of yourself. I know there are other thread bakers now and newsposters, but I'm sure the original is still around. Take care of yourself man.

I gotta be honest, anons. It's quite relaxing to make simple props for my mod thing in Milkshape 3D. Just sitting in silence, meditating in my mind and making a simple model is really nice after a long angry day.

>>10795207
I haven't sat in silence in quite some time, I love music too much, but I have a similar sentiment for mapping and listening to music anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opHSZnPxCo8

List of Retro FPS games that would be objectively better if the enemies did more (yet consistent) damage and the player switched weapons faster;
>1. All of them

>>10795297
Sounds like you should play QUAKE

>>10792598
My condolences. Rest in Peace Revae's pa.

I haven't been here in a small while aka three months or so. Any good wads / Quake stuff / good throwback FPS released in that timeframe?

As far as Wads go I'm looling for something with a techbasy feel and 8-10 map episodes.

>>10795331
Check the newspost you goof. Quake 2 just got a sewer jam.

>map forces you to 2-tap 100 cyberdemons in a row, one by one, in duplicate arenas
>while dodging their rockets pixel perfectly on a narrow platform
>with them standing at the end and on the edge of said platform, to where hitting them with a point blank shot knocks them off
>so you have to prefire at a very specific range, and then chainsaw switch to negate the knockback while closing the distance in time
the future of doom mapping

>>10795376
Touhou Doom: Embodiment of a Cyber Devil

Are you supposed to see the white lines of secrets on the map before you find them in doom, or is this a qol thing source ports have?

Why is there so much shit talk about Wrath's lack of enemy variety, yet so much praise about Doom 1?
Doom 1 has even less enemy variety, and the only threatening enemies are shotgunners and cybers.

>>10795436
touhou isn't pixel perfect trash, its just trash

>>10795448
Doom 1 is 30 years old.

>>10795448
Factor the year of release of each game when you are making this comparison.

>>10795451
t. filtered
>>10795448
I don't think anyone is really praising Doom 1's enemy roster and disparaging Wrath in the same breath. A proper comparison would be Doom 2 and Wrath.

>>10795448
wrath's roster is fine
the enemies serve their roles
the wheel need not be reinvented
but the wheel needs rims
where my fuckin shambler and vore
you could do so much stuff with a vore in a game with that knife dash fuckin 90 degree snapping projectiles n shit and it'd still be fair and fun

>>10795458
>t. filtered
I play other shmups, and have cleared PCB on lunatic and have come to the conclusion that if you've played one touhou you've played them all. Also last post of offtopic bad games.

>>10795445
Doom lets you manually flag a line to be shown as one-sided to hide its true nature as a door/lift, but not everyone remembers to do so.
Outline of a secret sector itself, I think, is a port feature, but in any case it's not white.

>>10795469
>and have come to the conclusion that if you've played one touhou
What an awful and erroneous sentiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfbfl0MlIAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmYnymCcKVw
>Also last post of offtopic bad games.
Fuck off now it's the last post.

Played a bit more of the Quake II sewer jam.

It's annoyingly hard. Not a lot of ammo or health, and a lot of insanely annoying enemy placements, including lots of fliers and zerkers. Often went back to my blaster to cheese enemies which is never a great thing. There are some nice arenas, using the platform as cover like its Apex Legends while the big flier boss gets stuck on it was funny.

The environments and areas are super nice and pretty cool so far. It's a shame that so it has the feel of a level that's only balanced if you know all the enemy spawns and secrets. Then again, I'm playing on nightmare difficulty so I'm getting exactly what it says on the label. Guess I've been away from the ultra annoying Nu-Zerks and fliers too long.

There have sure been some tight fights throughout this jam so far.
>>10793202
I’m liking it so far, dark cramped and evil compared to his goofy fun Bo-bomb map. It’s also when I had to stop using Q2Pro: I couldn’t jump on the box near the start and I couldn’t fit in the tunnels, but it does look better here so it’s not a big bummer.

Is there any reason to play Freedoom outside of novelty? It has new maps, right?

>>10795532
Depends on when you last played it for how big the difference is, the maps are pretty decent.

>>10794002
The real problem with BetaBrains to me is how inexplicably fucky the physics behind their extended mouth attack get - you can sometimes find yourself get gibbed from full health if they'd grab you from a high enough elevation or if you just got caught mid-jump.
The GZ BlackWidow boss 2nd stage's pincer attack also suffers from the same problem.

>>10794494
>>10794537
There is no final boss for Oblivion made unfortunately

I got a dev diary summing up all of the shit I've done with Doomslayer in GMOTA. I don't think there's anything I haven't shared with you boys already, but maybe some of you will still enjoy giving this a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_DeuTPuFnc

>>10795448
I saw one enemy in a Wrath LP that basicly cannot harm you in confined spaces because his main attack is to vomit a wide wave of gravity-affected blue orbs at a such high arc that ir will never pose any threat to you outside open arenas or a trench - any idea if that's an intentional design flaw of them, or was this game really this much rushed for release?

>>10795563

>>10795532
you play FreeDoom by ripping out all the godawful sprites and sound effects, then facepalm as you force yourself through a horrible E1 with maps that are way too long for their own good, with miserable texture placement and alignment, only to be then greeted by way too many short maps. Also 90% of the MIDIs suck ass and the writing of the texts is beyond childish.

>>10795531
Man this feels more aestheticly "Quake 4 remade in Quake 2" than the actual mod itself.

>>10795569
TL;DR Got the dev diary out, shows off a bunch of shit I've done for Doomslayer and a tiny portion of Kustam stuff. Mainly the cool new flip reload I gave him and his new HUD.
I'm looking forward to revamping Kustam, though there's still some shit I need to figure out with him. Like some of his weapon upgrades, and how the ammo system should work with his staff. I'm thinking if I make it so you have to load bullets into the staff for a properly strong attack, I'll probably make it more ammo efficient compared to the gun (like you get a few attacks from a single bullet), the tradeoff being the pistol will always shoot explosive hitscans with self damage, making it less than ideal in close quarters.

I also need to figure out what I'm gonna do with smaller ammo gem pickups for him. Because I sure as hell don't want a single clip-tier gem to give him a full bullet if that single bullet can shithouse a small crowd of monsters. I might just add a little gauge down at the bottom that fills up in small chunks when you pick up smaller ammo gems, and when that gets full you get a bullet. We'll see. I got a lot of work to do, and I want to make damn sure I get this right.

anybody else tired of mods and want to play the vanilla experience again in DOSBox or is it just me? I've played a few megawads, I didn't finish most of them because the difficulty was ramping up too fast so I went back to some good ole UV in the DOSBox

>>10795573
Once I get around to it, I’ll post some shots of that example Q2 map made by Quakewulf that used converted Quake 4 textures. It looked awesome.

Watching any streamer play MyHouse is such a chuckle. Commentary boils down to :
>Dude it's so impressive this on DOOM engine
>Dude this game is like 30 years old
>Dude this is so creeepyyy

Desperately trying to pad the boring emptiness with forced faux-commentary I almost feel sorry.

>>10795563
NO WAY!

>>10795695
I had a go at recording myself trying out the latest freedoom to see if it could be made into a video. I quickly decided on "no". I don't know how your average streamer does it. I'd be embarrassed to put such low-effort content out there. thank Romero we have decino

>>10795706
Reminds me of Civvie's insistence of not playing TNT Evilution. After playing a bit of it myself I fully understand why, it's just boring.

>>10795563
It's still fucking awesome to see it all coming together.
>>10795695
Don't forget the bandwagoneers going "it's saved Doom by keeping it relevant!",

I don't think it's all that good really, it's only really the presentation that stands out both in and out of the game, stuff like the encounter design (where there even is any) really isn't all that interesting.

>>10795706
>thank Romero we have decino
Eh, even he's awful at times, give him a puzzle or a not painfully obvious secret and he'll spend the next half hour running in circles and complaining.

>>10795716
that's just just his honest opinion about your overly ornery secrets

Is the Doom guy from Doom the same Doom guy from Sigil? If so doesn't that mean that he can't be the Doom guy from Doom 2?

Or is Sigil just fanfic/head canon? But if you consider it head canon then Doom 3 is fanfic as well.

>>10795754
Doomguy from Doom 1 is the same Doomguy from Sigil, and also the same Doomguy from Doom 2
Because Doomguy is you

>>10795759

>>10795754
Sigil is just Romero's headcanon, Doom 3 is a different dude.

>>10795452
>>10795454
I am factoring the dates, but even in 1994 people were complaining that the game was too easy on Ultra-Violence, to the point where ID added Nightmare!

>>10795458
From what I've seen in this board, Doom 1 is more favored map-wise over Doom 2, despite the new enemies. So I think it's still a fair comparison, if somebody can enjoy levels with simple hitscanners and projectile enemies, then they should be able to enjoy Wrath unless they have some kind of bias.

>>10795468
Oh yeah, homing attacks would feel so awesome to dodge with the dagger dash.

>>10795565
>I saw one enemy in a Wrath LP that basicly cannot harm you in confined spaces
Imps, cacos, hell knights, barons in Doom basically cannot harm you in open spaces
>was this game really this much rushed for release?
As rushed for release as Doom

>>10795759
what if a female plays doom, does she become trans doomguy?

>>10795448
>Why is there so much shit talk about Wrath's lack of enemy variety
Some people have actual criticism about the game while/after playing them, but there's also a certain degree of chasing the popular thing. In this case, the "popular thing" is trash talking 30+ year old company ruled by a cursed & younger team with some clearly talented developers, but sadistic decision makers and marketing department that was asking for all the shit getting thrown their way for years.

>>10795448
A big criticism of both Sigil wads is that Doom 1's enemy variety isn't great. Doom 1 is also much, much shorter than Wrath.

>>10795695
MyHouse is good, it being Undertale'd into having a bunch of bandwagon-ers and fake fans isn't gonna detract from that. Realistically speaking, what doesn't have a retarded fandom/userbase? It's not look the Doom community or even this general are all that great to begin with.
>>10795713
>stuff like the encounter design (where there even is any) really isn't all that interesting.
I think you're approaching it like a regular Doom WAD when it's more experimental and combat comes second to everything else. It's kinda like Yume Nikki being an RPGmaker game while having no RPG elements.

>>10795810
I didn't really like MyHouse all that much but I do admire how mechanically well put together it is. The teleporters alone are some of the best I've seen in a Doom map.

I just spent the whole night playing Quake III Arena on hardcore, finally beat Xaero just now.

>>10795786
>From what I've seen in this board, Doom 1 is more favored map-wise over Doom 2, despite the new enemies.
/vr/ has only made one “vanilla Doom 1” project. The rest have been Doom 2.

>>10795875
Wait, which one was this or were they all through 2?

>>10795695
>Dude it's so impressive this on DOOM engine
desu there is a kernel of truth in there, given that I'll always be impressed when someone makes anything good out of Doom Builder. It's not like they'd know that, but still.

>>10795918
MyHouse is impressive if you haven't kept an eye on anything Doom-related since the last time it was in the news cycle. Which in all fairness, is where all of the bandwagoners fall into.

>>10795875
Pretty sure he means the actual maps of Doom 1 vs Doom 2, not Doom 2 as a mapping resource.

>>10795810
>think you're approaching it like a regular Doom WAD when it's more experimental and combat comes second to everything else.
Yeah but even then the stuff towards the end is just pretty haphazard and could have been done better.

>>10795923
What even was the last thing the bandwagon gang paid attention to? Something like Hellshots Golf or Thatcher's Techbase?

I know the latter got a lot of media coverage because the mapper had buddies in the shitty media cliques.

>>10795938
I was thinking Brutal Doom, but Hellshots Golf or maybe SRB2Kart would have gotten attention since then.

>>10795926
I might agree there but then I like Final Doom more than both, so I’d rather compare to that than Doom 1.

>>10795956
Hellshots > everything else mentioned. I like myhouse.wad, but hellshots is Fun™.
Just wish there were more courses.

>>10795979
>Just wish there were more courses.
He was working on a second set of them but the shit that happened to him happened to him.

It might be cool at some point to do our own courses for it.

>>10795759
New id retconned trashcanon

>>10795775
OK, thanks for the explanation Bill

>>10792598
Sorry for your loss, Revae

>>10795987
>OK, thanks for the explanation Bill
No problem, Ben.

>finally decide to try out the Quake 2 Remaster jams
>first level is picrel
D-Does it get better...?

>>10795918
The Doom Builder family of editors are genuinely fantastically good map making software, extremely flexible, straightforward, and easy to use. They are a huge part of why Doom has endured as an interest for sophisticated shooter nerds, and the vast majority of levels made for Doom in the past 20 years now are thanks to this fabulous software.

Like, I don't think there's anything particularly technically impressive about using it because it's so very user friendly, so it's more just left to talented and creative design.
I think that what's more technically impressive is Doom mapping from the time before Doom Builder, back when Doom map editors didn't have a first person editing mode, and they didn't have built in Node Builders, or if they did they were fucking shit. Works like Memento Mori and Requiem was a fucking struggle for those people to put together, and I will forever respect their patience and dedication.

>>10796013
Yes, in fact this map is fun as fuck.
And the same guy did the best map in the Sewer Jam with is Specimen 42, which anon pointed above as >>10795531 >>10795573

>>10796013
>fugly map
>FUN as FUCK
Just make sure you race to the top at the start before the shitty koopa fucks everything up

>>10795563
>>10795582
Just wanted to say that i tried GMOTA and liked it very much. Still didn't try the Combined Arms but i am going to soon.
New Doomslayer looks awesome. Looking forward to the next update.

>>10796013
You put both a performative stutter and ellipses into your question and therefore I will not answer

>>10796013
Took me another glance to realize what this is based on

Militaristic tech zones in old shooters almost always have server racks and monitors placed high along the wall or hanging directly from the ceiling. The only assumption I can make from this is that some poor sap has to stand there and crane their neck to stare at a screen placed 10 feet in the air. It's no wonder why these places are so easily overrun, they seem to have been barely functioning beforehand.

>>10796121
Why would anyone need to constantly look at server racks?
And have you ever been to a train station or airport?

>>10794125

>>10794384
https://www.oldunreal.com/downloads/unreal/oldunreal-patches-for-unreal-latest-ver.j/
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases/tag/v469d

>>10796138
I'm just saying it wouldn't kill to have some of this stuff in more conventional spots. I'm not a demon or robot alien so I guess I wouldn't get it.

>>10795448
carmack locked himself in a hotel room and made doom 1 in two weeks

>>10796013
based sonic enjoyer

>>10795448
Wrath maps might drag a bit. I noticed this in the first real map I was in.
I was never bored, but I haven't played long enough yet to get bored. Could see that happening. It was very much arena to room to room to arena with not much to break it up other than general architecture.
But again, I'm pretty early into it.

It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye.

>>10796176
??? realism is the least of the concern in map design. for all we care, those textures could be replaced by my ass. they're there just to make things a little bit less ugly, that's all. they do the trick

>>10796176
For Q2 those could be monitored by these guys. One of the expansions introduced some cute flying repair drones as well.

Marathon Eternal has to rank up there as one of the most pretentious things I've ever seen.

>The player character is now a super-important OC that has a "deep" backstory.
>One of your AI partners is miraculously a woman he had a relationship with in the past.
>Oh no! Your former girlfriend-turned-AI is now evil! Better jam in a lot of symbolism about love and relationships!
>The Marathon doesn't even slightly resemble what it looked like in the original game.
>Needlessly complicated time-travel plot involving ancient magical technology that was never alluded to before.
>Filled to the brim with pseudo-philosophical bullshit (bruh, what if the Jjaro were just as evil as the monster that can literally devour an entire galaxy?).
>Heavy use of AI-generated slop instead of hiring an actual artist.
>Heavy use of (pseudo-)Latin and Egyptian mythology, in a far-flung future setting light-years away from Earth (Your old human girlfriend is named Hathor!).
>If you make the wrong choice on certain levels, the game strings you along for two more levels before finally telling you, and then warps you back, wasting both your time and your ammo.

On top of that, the devs are trying to tie it to other popular mods, acting like it's so damn great it NEEDS to be referenced elsewhere.

>>10796279
Marathon fans being all the way up their own asses? Stop the presses.

>>10796279
Goes to show the difference between actual talented writers and amateurs who need to use an existing setting as a crutch for their own writing.

>>10795923
I think you're just jaded mate
At worst it's corny

>>10796402
It's well put together, but what it does isn't particularly mindblowing from a technical standpoint.

>can't make a fun map for the life of me
wish i inherited my great grandpas mapping genes

>>10796434
Just make something, play it, and change the parts you don't like. Repeat until fun.

Just updated GZDoom after a year of running the same version. Why the fuck did they get rid of half the sector light modes? This shit is too dark.

>>10796279
>>Marathon Eternal
>>Heavy use of AI-generated slop instead of hiring an actual artist.
Isn't Eternal old?

>>10796434
What's your great grandpa's best Doom level?

>>10796016
Because drawing sectors and their nature thereof is still pretty doodoo and time consuming

>>10796447
And it's still being worked on, with the most recent preview build being released just two months ago.

The AI art was added fairly recently.

>>10795923
It got overhyped as fuck, and it doesn't do anything really new, but it's still an impressive and ambitious work.

Whoop, guess this map is an absolute no go for coop play, entry sends you thru a tunnel that smacks you down to 5hp before sending you to the intro area. Thanks to the weirdness of saving that doesnt let you respawn in anymore... guess I'll have to do this the old fashioned way.

>>10796279
>>If you make the wrong choice on certain levels, the game strings you along for two more levels before finally telling you, and then warps you back, wasting both your time and your ammo.
This is also based, because you can avoid almost all of these by immediately closing any Hathor terminal as soon as the logo shows up (at least, you could when I last played it).
It actively teaches you to immediately silence women.

did i got shadowbanned? where did all the very based and redpilld TSPG servers go?

>>10796176
It just works.

>>10796510
Sad he would want to taint this old project of his with ai trash.

Consider me filtered, i finished hard games where i died a lot but i always enjoyed them, this hit scan spam with high dmg feels cheap and is miserable to play, i wont bother to continue.

>>10796121
They might not be the most realistic but it just looks damn cool and... techy. Like one of those monitor rooms in Doom 3.
In Masters of Doom they talked about how I think it was Tom Hall was making designs for a much more realistic military base style like filing cabinets and all and then in the end they threw his design in the trash and the ''techbase look'' became what it is now.

What particular examples you mean I'm curious?

>>10795810
>>10795918
I'm not saying MyHouse or it's fanbase is bad but that it was painful when people marketed it as way more than what it actually was.

>>10796548
from what i understand Blood is insanely dumb if you treat it like a standard FPS and is more fun if you enjoy throwing dynamite everywhere and letting it do all the work.

>>10796548
What’s the difficulty, and have you noticed the difference between Lightly Broiled and Well Done?

>>10796551
maybe, but im after doom games marathon and i wanted standard fps where i just run and shoot and Blood 1 punishes that play style super hard.

>>10796548
Don't remember what level that is, but blood it hard at first as you are learning how the game/enemies work. You will soon coast your way through the levels if you aren't playing on the hardest difficulty. Also I hope you are saving every now and then during the levels and not doing saveless.

>>10796548
Dynamite and Napalm is your friend
IIRC before that train car there should be a dual wield hidden somewhere
flares can also help a lot in thinning the herd since they can work as a makeshift rocket

>>10796550
>but that it was painful when people marketed it as way more than what it actually was.
Halfways a problem with it going way out it's intended target audience and halfway because it became pure bandwagon bait.

I saw some making out it had invented non-Euclidean mapping and others saying it had come up with a new, innovative trend of people mapping their own houses in Doom, both being painfully fucking wrong.

>>10796559
>full bundle of dynamite being thrown
He's on Well Done and getting fucked as you do when you treat Well Done like it's Doom UV.

>>10796568
Oh shit that will do it, Blood’s skill settings are skewed like crazy.
>>10796560
Consider trying it through NotBlood if you haven’t already.

>>10796548
Blood is constant quicksave/quickload dance.
I love the absolute carnage that Blood is with it's satisfying movement physics, unsettling physics and impeccable feedback from the weapons and enemies that are being mulched but it's hard. Consider dropping difficulty if you don't find the idea of constant save / load enjoyable.

I really really liked playing Doom only saving in the start of each level but that doesn't quite work in Blood. Unless you're almost speedrunner-tier skilled.

Some people just dont understand how to map, swear to god.

>>10796568
Oh yeah, then he's gonna have a bad time. Blood is a tough game by design and it's pretty fucking merciless on higher skills. For anyone else's reference, the highest skill is Extra Crispy and it's designed under the assumption that you're playing co-op multiplayer, you aren't expected to be able to beat the game on single player on that setting.

>>10796548
You're probably sick of it right now, but consider giving it another try on a lower skill level some other day. It really is a very exciting shooter where being highly mobile is key.
Jumping and crouching a lot helps confuse the aim of gun toting cultists, so you wanna get down low and then jump around, jump up, jump up, and get down.

>>10796585
You can go wild with saving and loading, but you don't need to.
With the original .exe you had that bug where if you loaded a save, damage scaling for difficulties got flipped, so hard basically turned to easy and easy essentially turned to hard, and one of the oldschool approaches to that was simply to save at the exit of each level and you'd then just try to do a level in one whole go.
This was totally doable, and in that situation it was arguably easier because you didn't have to contend with a sudden spike in damage scaling.

Thankfully, ports fix that bug.

>>10796595
i hated this map

>>10796606
Ok, I'm glad I'm not alone. I still don't understand the purpose of this black hole weapon? It just... does some damage and pushes an (one(1)) enemy away? That's it?

>>10796610
the introduction isn't bad, it gives some Horror look, but the moment you get to the sewers, the quality drops.
Also the Disintegrator is pretty much a weaker version of the Black Hole Gun, powerful as fuck as a single target weapon, but not as powerful as the Quake 4 one.

>>10796610
It has the highest DPS in the game, homes in on enemies, ignores shielding, automatically gibs, and applies large amounts of knockback. It's an alternative to the BFG for when you want a specific enemy dead immediately

>>10796615
I can see the appeal when dealing with some of these power shield asshats in areas where you know a medic is around, but in that kinda scenario... it feels like I'd rather just use a BFG and clear out the whole place.

I dunno, the damage just doesn't seem to be all that great, maybe if it one shot more things but it doesnt seem like it's at that level of power.

>>10796595
>accessible font
At least it's not Shambo.

>>10796615
>It's an alternative to the BFG for when you want a specific enemy dead immediately
Also doesn’t step on anyone’s toes with its own ammo source, and its also fun to use. It adds to the nice variety of maps and gameplay I’m seeing in these Q2 jams.

zoomer here, got the quake 2 remastered gifted to me during the steam sale. finished the main campaign and ground zero but got too burned out to play the rest. it was really fun honestly, why do so many people hate quake 2's singleplayer?

>>10796752

>>10796751
Quake 2 was always regarded as competent, but it's the first time id released a new FPS that felt like iteration instead of innovation.
The industrial wasteland setting also grows tiring compared to Doom and Quake's progression. The burnout you experienced happens a lot earlier in most people.
Never mind the improvements to some of the weaker monsters made in the remaster, the berserkers in that screenshot used to be as harmless as Doom's pinkies.

>>10796781
Pinkies are mean when there's little room to move or there's lots of them. Or both.

>>10796791
and berserkers never had either

>>10796792
now little or large room, they fuck you up.

>>10796004
How'd you know it was me?

>>10796013
I find that hilarious.

>>10796840

This tiresome fucking bitch. Wanna dupe my powerups and summon infinite jackass adds with your infinite ammo, two can play that game. Too bad you're a negative infinite IQ moron that never learned how to aim thru a gap.

I guess it could theoretically be possible to do the fight normally but even with an adrenaline I feel it's not enough, unless I figure out how to juke every plasma sweep and keep her from summoning more shit.

holy shit thanks bro. Finally a map where there's a guy to talk to that's not insane marine #243. Also lmao at the conveniently placed stack of barrels going up.

What do you guys think about sizeable optional sections? Assuming they give good rewards but don't progress you toward the end of the level in any meaningful way.

How is this not a secret

>>10796279
The music is great though. Swirls, Leela, Rushing and their reprisals are fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkpMAZuOk0

>>10796510
Small correction: The latest Eternal preview was released earlier this month. I had gotten it confused with the latest version of Aleph One, which had released back in January.

>>10796013
Whaat that looks cool.

>>10796013
Now I want to see Super Mario 64's levels recreated and realized as Quake levels. Like as a full set.

>>10796974
I think greatest reward for optional section is that section being interesting visually and from gameplay perspective, while having a bit of theme going on (that's different from the rest of the level), if it's cool enough I won't complain even if I lose more ammo/health than I get from going through it.

>>10797002
>the latest version of Aleph One, which had released back in January.
>adds true surround sound options
Incredibly based, gaming seems to have forgotten about this in general.

>>10797179
Not many people care about it to be quite desu.

Any tips for mapping outdoor areas in Quake? Can't get them to look organic...

>>10797182
Imagine not owning a 7.1 headset. Couldn't be me.

>>10797183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhx4VEZUr80

>>10796751
Quake 2 was one of the games in the first wave to be a 'modern' fps in the sense that it had a more consistent environment that you could and often would, backtrack through to fulfill objectives in other areas.

But Half Life really imo blew that 'genre' out of the water when it released in 1998 with it's compelling setting, and importantly a lot of world interaction like buttons, carts, trains, light switches, microwaves and Quake 2 is in this weird in-between where it's neither Doom / Quake 1 but not really Half Life either.

Also I also replayed Quake 2 base game twice recently, before and after the remaster and it loses steam massively in some parts where the backtracking is the heaviest.

Quake 2 is at it's best when you know where you're going and not stuck wondering where you need to go.

That said now I need to go and finish the expansion packs of the remaster.

>>10796781
The improved berserkers are way more fun to fight. Same with Medics they are actually a threat now. I did an experiment in the original version to see how long it took for medics to resurrect a tank and I had to basically lead them to the enemy. If I wanted to kill the medic it would've been easy. In the remaster they actually work like supposed.

Please seed the quickstart archive torrent, I'm trying to download it.

>>10797254
I've got 1mb per second myself anon.

>Warspasm, Bile Plant
>"The Silver Keycard is now accessible!"
>No idea where the fuck to go
>Low on ammunition
Now I remember why I haven't finished Warpspasm

>>10797257
Mine doesn't even start, I thought there were zero seeders.

>>10797260
You summoned us.

>>10797262
it's working now, thank you anon!

>>10797262
>Another has joined the fray
Why don't you Doomfags post in the thread

>>10797262
Done. Thanks for the seed guys. Much appreciated! :)

>>10797183
Look up Half Life terrain tutorials and basically just do the same thing.

>>10797301
>>10797183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUD21fHRPjE

>>10795786
>Imps, cacos, hell knights, barons in Doom basically cannot harm you in open spaces
That's because it was originally impossible to strafe, turn and run at the same time before mouelook was the standard feature of modern Doom(2) ports, the scenario I am mentioning is more like not making the Q1 Ogres able to aim downwards in a spiritual sequel to AD.

>>10794185
The pistol IS the sniper weapon. It's just useless for beefed enemies.
>>10794030
I'd say Wrath arsenal is more engaging than Quake, the mace is an interesting approach to a BFG, most of the late weapons are conceptually quite clever. I don't think it would mix well with Quake.
>>10795448
Doom has a more interesting encounter design. I think it has a better balance too. Wrath design needed enemies with more mobility but you can't do much with the AI with that tech.

>>10797336
The mace is fun, but kind of really busted because it can one-hit any enemy with the melee strike. I never even bothered to use its alt fire.

>>10794978
Can you link to a post from the archives?

>>10797393
NTA, I can't even say "learn how to use archive" because there's nothing to learn. Stop being a lazy slob.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/614akDkzvtE#536303

>>10797397
thanks janny

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>10797451
Been setting up more of Kustam's HUD stuff. I'll need to play with the numbers under the hood to get the meter gain and decay feeling right. I'll also need to set up the new feature where I'll check how much heat the player has and convert it into ammo when using the meditool.

All this shit and also needing to figure out what to do with smaller ammo pickups, as I really don't want a single clip tier red gem to give Kustam 1 unit of his ammo, seeing as it hits like a fucking truck.
and man that old meditool sprite is going to get a bit of a much needed update alongside Kustam's hands.

>>10797475
what was the mod again? i must have asked 3 times now

>>10797502
That's GMOTA.

>>10796176
>he doesn't have vital information readily readable wherever he looks
lmao look at this singletasking faggot

>try to make level nonlinear
>end up with a bunch of optional areas and a level that takes 5 seconds to complete if you skip all of them
It's over.

>>10797451
I didn't have time to actually map, so instead I have drawn this highly detailed schematic for a future map.

What is the best megawad objectively?

>>10797532
You can make normal sequence of 3 keys, but push locked doors further away.

>>10797541
>objectively
DOOM.WAD

>>10797546
not even the best IWAD

>>10797541
Alien Vendetta.

>>10797554
slop

>>10797563
epic internet buzzword man

>find secret level in a wad
>before loading into it the wad runs a custom bat file which downloads an entirely different wad and launches a separate instance of doom with the first map of that wad loaded
>can't continue playing the first wad until the second one is beaten

>>10797576
>the wad runs a custom bat file
wat. this sounds like a major security issue

>>10797594
You'd be surprise how many people just download these wads with a version of GZDoom and .bat files and just run them without even having a look at what they do.

>>10797451
All I've been doing is the dumbest shit possible because I'm fucking tired of testing random spawners.

>>10797594
I'm making up a goofy scenario here.

>>10797541
>What is the best megawad objectively?
Sunlust

>>10797541
Chex Quest

Am I blind or new nugget/woof removed automap color settings from the game and it's only editable via config now?
Also the music got few times more quiet, volume 4 in 2.3.1 is louder than volume 15 (maximum) in 3.0.0

>>10796978
What map is this? If it's the Abandoned Mines it's just trollmero not making it muh outside area. Great, fun map though.

>>10797541
>objectively
no such thing unless you determine for us a criteria

any good doom wads released in the last 9-ish months?

>>10797713
Eviternity 2

>>10796871
Simply incredible lol

>>10797698
NTA, but that's Refueling Base. If I remember right, it was originally a Hall map made for DOOM 1.

>>10797625
What am I looking at here? A rocket that explodes into ssg's? Explodes as a bunch of shots from a ssg?

>>10797856
>A rocket that explodes into ssg's?
This.

>>10797858
It's as stupid as I thought, that's great.
Do you have it in action?

>>10797863
There's nothing to really see, it just hits a floor and drops ten SSGs in a small area.

it's just for testing shit that randomly replaces stuff without having to hammer the console or bind spawning buttons and spam them.

Any anons here with Deus Ex level editing (or any unrealed game editing)? I'm looking to start making fan missions for this game. I have pretty decent Doom editing experience and made a few maps that people enjoyed, but pretty lacking in brush/"true 3d" department - I only did two test maps in trenchbroom but it seems harder to me.
How difficult it is to setup everything and edit in DXed? I see you need a lot of fixing to get it working on newer systems, is it viable in windows 10? Thanks in advance

>>10797883
I'm still learning, please pardon my enthusiasm.
This happens with Cyberdemons too? They fire a volley of rockets into a wall or whatever, and then there's a bunch of ssg's wherever they hit?
It could be a fun to fuck with in a map, like the only way to get a certain weapon is to dodge rockets in a weird room and run to where they hit while dodging more.

>>10797897
damn my stupid ESL ass, I meant level editing experience*

>>10797915
It doesn't replace the rocket so, no, it just uses it as a base to inherit from.

>>10795582
Blaz getting anything new/tweaked or is he basically complete?

Anyone play kfdoom yet?

>>10797990
Only the first episode. I liked a couple of the maps. Uncle Jersh's Day Out was the standout for me because I like city maps.

>>10795754
it basically happened in between 1 and 2 and is the same guy in all DOOM games other than 3.

>>10797990
I quickly got bored, it just comes across as trying too hard with the edgy shit.

Not a big fan of KFarms, seems like a huge sociopath gathering, but what do I care honestly - I liked how they added flair to all the default textures by changing "poison" for "HRT" or all UAC logos into their own logo
>>10798000
>Uncle Jersh's Day Out was the standout for me because I like city maps
Yeah, I like that one too, very nice initial city setting and a the rest of the base with various mixed settings, good gameplay, a bit of a troll for pistol starters at the end, overall good fun, great map
>>10797990
Didn't play a lot esle but the Axe wound one was also a nice short and sweet one, very good in visual sense and gameplay was also nice and not too challenging. The HRT labs one was a promising newbie map (looking very squareish and basic but I can see the author had good ideas).

>>10797990
Worth a playthrough if you've got nothing better to do. A lotta really basic maps but they avoid dragging on for too long. I'll echo what people are saying about Uncle Jersh's Day Out, damn good map.

>>10798057
That depends heavily on the thread and subforums. Most of the people there are just a bunch of weirdos who like following and gossiping about dumb people on the internet, though I'm not saying that there aren't any sociopaths or complete spergs out there.

>>10797693
Yes to both. The volume problem is with FluidSynth only I think, and you can fix it by cranking up "mus_gain" in the config.

Are you supposed to fore a pistol start after each intermission screen (aside from the secret level ones) in Doom2?

Has anyone here played Bloodstain? Was the first usermade WAD I ever played and I had a miserable time with it lol
Especially the later levels, don't remember any details just that it was absolute aids, waaay above my skill level. I'm going through it again right now and I'm having a lot of fun, when Du Hast started playing in map 07 I was grining like an idiot, really curios about the later hell levels i hated so much now.

Do you still remember your first custom WAD? Have you revisited it?

>>10798218
Not really. The episode length would be pretty awkward.

>>10798218
If you want to,
All maps are designed to be possible to pistol start

>>10798227
I love Bloodstain. It's comfy.

>>10798227
>Do you still remember your first custom WAD? Have you revisited it?
It was probably Community Chest 3, DUMP3 or BTSX - I would definitely revisit cc3 and DUMP3 (foregone destruction from cc3 and felt from Dump3 are somehow heavily ingrained in my memory - those two maps are the reasons I love using the gothic banners and those vanilla bookcase/painting adjacent textures in my maps, and one of the reasons I started mapping). Many other maps from DUMP3 were really enjoyable - the hub map with urquan music, that panic room one, bouncy castle, the quake1 styled, and many good tech base ones
BTSX I felt was really boring, but it was my first contact with a map pack that has so many well made custom textures and HUD graphics that play well into eachother and the style is preserved through it, kudos for that - though that was also one of the reasons I found it boring - would probably not revisit
I was tainted by playing mostly community packs in my early doom playing years and ever since I find eclectic map packs like the /vr/ ones and DUMP the most fun to play, I just love it when all levels look and play so different from eachother.

>>10798010
Sounds like fanfic, definitely a retcon but he doesn't have the authority to change the Doom story anymore.

>>10798227
Played it with demonsteele if i remember correctly.
and my first .wad was BTSX.

>>10798227
>Do you still remember your first custom WAD? Have you revisited it?
Return to Phobos, yes.

>>10798227
One of my first custom WADs was Whispers of Satan. I think I only ever played the first 3-5 levels and just kinda dropped off afterwards.

>apparently Q1 Copper mod has coop-only monster spawns like in Doom
Is that true?

>>10798227
Ancient Aliens got me into custom wads essentially
It sounded really cool

>>10798227
>Do you still remember your first custom WAD? Have you revisited it?
I remember playing a Doom gore WAD way before Brutal Doom was even a thing. All I remember was that it was made by "Happy Chainsaw"
As I recall, it used some sort of weird patching system that directly overwrote the graphics in the IWAD. I have not revisited it since there are better options available these days for gore in Doom.

>>10797959
I'm pretty happy with where he is right now, though I did go back and give his normal sword attacks a trail effect.
I think the only thing I want to add to him at this point is being able to grab the fucking sword with the chain after you throw it and I cannot for the life of me figure out a method that'd play nice with Zandronum, other than doing some seriously fucked shit like making the dropped sword a monster that sits there and does a melee attack on players that gives itself to them if they get close enough.

I'd rather not do that because not only is that fucking stupid, it might cause weridness online.

Anyone had an issue with glitched/non-working fonts in WRATH: Aeon of Ruin? Did you manage to fix it and, if so, how exactly? It's supposed to be smaller, not large and wide.

>>10797451
Got enemy mini-subs working in Malice: https://files.catbox.moe/cwvwyh.webm
They're about what you would expect, but there are a few neat things about them -
>when close enough, they'll stop approaching and start circle strafing you
>if too close to other subs, they'll attempt to move apart
>if hit with a lot of damage at once, there's a 50% chance they'll spin out of control briefly
>torpedos can be shot and can collide with each other
>enemy torpedos only home on subs, not swimming players, and have less homing power with lower difficulty
I'm not sure if there's enough room for them to work very well in vanilla Malice maps, but they should be fun for mappers to play around with.

>>10798227
>first custom wad
Uhhhh probably Scythe. Or NeoDoom.
First TC was Zen Dynamics I think.

>have you revisited
No and I don't think I will.
I've become too infatuated with Plutonialikes.

>>10797990
I will give it a try. Used to hang out on KF at a certain point in time and have a deeper involvement. The most fun outside of CWC was probably the Parkourdude91 saga. That was good shit.

I am hoping somebody will eventually make a ''job horror sim'' of the Doom 3 marine's job without the whole facility imploding in demon invasion.

I just love the UAC military/industrial feel and would love to go on patrols in the dark corridors with a flashlight and a gun occasionally bantering with the mechanics / machine operators and looking at security cam feeds to spot any unusual activity. Then grabbing lunch from canteen on those portioned trays and a cola from the vending machine.

I'm having an issue with UDB
I defined a new thing in zscript using inheritance (so only the parts I want changed compared to the original). Specifically the "FloatingSkull" so that I can have another decoration with a new appearance but the same size otherwise. I don't want to overwrite the original floating rock so I defined a DoomEdNums in MAPINFO to give the new one a different editor number. The resulting pk3 loads without errors in GZDoom but when I try to actually add the new thing in UDB (open map -> load resources) I always get this warning as soon as the map loads
I searched online and saw I had to add gzdoom.pk3 as a resource (with the exclude from testing option marked). I did it and the warning is still there. Is this an issue with inheritance or is there a step I'm missing?

>>10798218
Like the others said, you can if you want to, every level is designed to be Pistol Startable, but the game is meant to be played progressively too, that's not an oversight.
If anything, the oversight is that Pistol Start and Fast Monsters aren't a pair of toggles you activate on the Difficulty Level screen, so you could choose on the fly.

>>10798227
Bloodstain is one of my favorites. I think the first custom levels I ever played was Ghostbusters Doom.

>>10798474
>you can shoot-down incoming torpedos with your pistol
Neat, never knew this!
Can you try fixing the Barracudas to pose an actual threat? They seem to have the same AI as the Rotfish despite being almost 7 times longer than them, and sometimes they refuse to gnaw your extremities unless their entity model start intruding halfway into your own model.

>>10798545
Really? Because scythe is still pretty good

>>10798660
>Neat, never knew this!
This is new actually. Seemed like an obvious feature to add, and should make deathmatch more balanced since subs now have a larger and separate health pool from players.
>Can you try fixing the Barracudas to pose an actual threat?
I'll see if I can adjust their attacks and behavior. Unfortunately they're still just going to be a bit awkward due to their length + square hitboxes.

>>10798646
>>10798242
>>10798246
I ask in order to know if that's a common way to emulate the episodic inventory clearing D2 doesn't provide like D1 did so that you won't keep cheesing thru everything with just the DBS and the chainsaw & RL you got from secrets in Map01
I am pretty sure that the GBA version of Doom2 did this to you anyways

>>10798627
Have you placed your custom DoomEdNums in the MAPINFO?

>>10798724
Unless I used the wrong syntax, I should have

>>10798734
Is the TEUSkull included in the zscript lump?
Is the DoomEdNum 300 already taken by something else?

I got ezquake and it works on my like 7 years old forgotten Q1 install

how do I connect to a server with this thing?

>>10798743
The include is there in the main zscript file
For the number 300, I used this as a reference https://zdoom.org/wiki/Standard_editor_numbers

Nothing else is defined beyond standard Doom 2 things

>>10798761
>Nothing else is defined beyond standard Doom 2 things
What about the things in gzdoom.pk3?

>>10798763
Tried a bigger number beyond the standard editor numbers I linked above, still nothing

>>10798775
Can you show the actor definition?

>>10798793
Sure, hoping I used inheritance right

>>10798685
When you reach MAP12, do IDCLEV12, and when you reach MAP21, do IDCLEV21.

>>10798815
>>10798775
>>10798761
Try to fix the typo in the zscript file and see what happens

Well I got fired, I'm planning on playing at least 20 doom maps each day, for a whole year (thats 7300 maps in total)
recommendations aside from the ones listed here https://doomwiki.org/wiki/List_of_notable_WADs?

>>10798820
ah, the .zs instead of .zc
Unfortunately nothing changed in UDB even after fixing it

>>10798826
Play all the /vr/ wads.
100-400 Minutes of /vr/
2048 Units of /vr/
HFFM
Ad Mortem
Unrattled
512 Lines of /vr/

>>10798838
What is that?

>>10798838
i think i still have this, it was never finished at all

>>10798820
Decided to say fuck it and tried to spawn the new thing on a map near the player start even if UDB shows it as a question marks and gives me the warning
What the fuck? It shows no problem even with a type of 21111. What's UDB problem then?